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I think passion's overrated and I think it's complete bull shit. I think it makes wellness influencers sound great. I think it sounds great online. And I'm the goddamn boomer. Really?
And we're back. Wow. Kind of crazy. I miss our other digs, but for the time being, these uh four digital walls we'll have to do. I feel like it's hiding my bald spot. What's popping? What are we angry about? What are we raging about? My battery is like like 4%. So, let's see how that Let's do this quick. Let's do this quick. Rapid fire. Emad, how are you doing? You made a a pretty big move. Move from Los Angeles to Seattle. And Seattle feels like being in Venice Beach, more or less. Oh my god. I think it's like way more liberal. Every weekend you have to go on a hike. Like, and to blend in, we got a new car. Guess what car we got? Subaru. Subaru. Yeah, you have to drive. Cool. They they just had to tell me. They're like, "Oh, if you're six feet, like this is the only only car where like you could flatten the seats and a sixoot person can lay down." I was like, "Say no more. Take my money. We're we're we're done." Like I I finally started going back to the gym. This guy always finds a way to weave in the fact that he works out a lot. That's cool. Yeah. Just always the case. Always the case. Good stuff. All right. Uh Sajid, how about you? How what are you raging or ranting about right now? I had ACL surgery. So, taking it slow, you know, for the most part, I like it. I think it's forced me to reflect and slow down and think about, you know, priorities and where to spend my time and stuff. Being forced to overnight like stop doing anything. So, just what that's meant for me and my kids and my wife has had to shoulder a bunch of the work and everything really. So, it's been it's been weird. You know what's funny is the one thing I still can't do really well, a day-to-day thing, is go up and down stairs. I'm still taking, you know, left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot on each step. And the same problem my parents have, too, actually. Yeah, exactly. And I feel And I feel like an old grandparent, too, because my four-year-old will like do something ridiculous and run off, and I'm like, "Hey, hey, slow down. Just stop. Stop where you and he's like later. How are you, Emad? What are you pissed off about? You're usually upset a lot. So, this week I'm upset with like general home improvement stuff. Like there's all this stuff I want to do around the house and there's like a lot of it. And I don't know about you guys, leaf you got a leaf blowing job. This dude, little context for you, like a few nights ago, he's like, "Hey, you got a leaf blower? You live in a condo, dude? Like why do you need a leaf blower? I need to clean out the fans in my house. And I saw this cool Tik Tok hack where you take a leaf blower and it takes out all the dust of the van without having to like take it apart and clean it. So that's what I wanted to do. So I don't have a leaf blower. Blowing the blood back into the house, dude. All right, we will we will cap it at that. So welcome everyone. My name is Ahmed. I'm joined by Sajid and Immad. We welcome you to Nonsense. As you know, Nonsense is a way for men in their 40s who are exploring their careers, managing their families, managing their emotions, a way to come together, share some thoughts, let off some steam. Anyhow, today's main topic that we'll be exploring is career and aspirations. This was uh this was a good topic submitted by a couple of our followers. They want to hear our thoughts on careers and submitted by all two followers. That's cool. You know, I appreciate you. At this point, like a follower is a followus one shout out. This is a big meaty topic. It's going to go in many different ways, but I want to hear from you. How do you how did you choose your career? And you know, where are you satisfied, not satisfied? If you could do something else, we'll we'll get into all that, but yeah, let's start off with from you, bro. This is going to be something. I can't wait. I can't wait. Are we going to talk about like 5 years out, what's our plan? 10 years out, what do you see yourself doing? You know, something like that. Yeah. Why don't we make it like that? Yeah. Like speaking of careers, I'm like in the middle of a career transition. But, you know, I I want to hear from you guys before we like get into the serious stuff. Like, what do you guys think is like the most ridiculous career out there? Ooh. Like ridiculous from what sense? like something that you would never do or something you find preposterous. I can't believe this this exists. This is a career exists. Yeah. Oh, I 100%. Okay. You want me to say it? Okay. I think I think we live in a very interesting time where creator, you know, YouTube, Instagram influencer, Twitter, you know, ranter, those are careers. And if you, you know, there was a study out recently, I think Wall Street Journal posted this that they pulled um a thousand students across America, high schoolers, on what they wanted to be when they grew up. I think three or four of the top answers were influencer, creator, YouTuber, and some other synonym for for those three. So, I find it preposterous, but hey, no disrespect to anyone and their dreams. No, I agree with you. like this like whole creator world. I mean you are you are a boomer. Yeah. Be proud. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm a young boomer. You're booming man. Older millennial young boomer. You're a boomer. So I think I think those like the whole creator all that crazy like kids want to be YouTube stars, right? Or whatever you call them. But like in terms of really like kind of weird bizarre jobs, there's people like that are testing out soap live, you know, in showers for PNG, right? Or people are testing freaking pet food, right? To see what how like to me those those things are like, huh, okay. I mean, how much does it pay? And if I had to redo it, I would probably be tasting some pet food. You guys ever watched that video long time ago? There's this like Brazilian model masseuse who's complaining about how hard his job is. No, no. Please. I bet it is really hard. Whoa. Whoa. No, no. Okay. Okay. So, the most ridiculous career. Sajid said creator. I said creator. Immad. You're saying masseuse is the most ridiculous. No, I said pet food tester. Pet food tester. You're not paying attention to me. Just a sign of the times. Okay. Okay. So then how did you guys choose your careers? How did you guys choose your choose you? Like I don't know. It's not like everybody's beating down my door after I graduated be like, "Hey, here's 50 jobs for you." You know? So that's a that's a good question. Does does your career choose you or do you choose your career? I have a better question. Should you follow your passion or not? Yeah. When you're choosing your career, Yeah. I I have very No, please do it. Go. You You go first because I have very a hot take on this. No, I want to hear the hot take, dude. I think I think passion's overrated and I think it's complete [ __ ] I think it makes wellness influencers sound great. I think it sounds great online. You should do something that you're good at, something that you can make money from, that provides fulfillment, and maybe there's some element of passion in there, but pursuing your passion 100%. This is like out of some, you know, ridiculous Los Angeles-based wellness treatment center. And I'm the goddamn boomer. Really?
Most senior moment I've heard from you in a long time. Sorry. Passionate. He's passionate about not being passionate. So like that's why he started a podcast. He's like following his passion. This stems from I have like I you know I'm sure you guys right in your careers you have a lot of young folks reaching out to you looking for career advice totally general life advice but I get a lot of young people reaching out and they're always looking for career advice and you know this topic of passion comes up and I I just think it's overplayed you know you can you can be passionate about multiple things right like I'm passionate about good design and good marketing does that mean I'm a designer now or I should pursue design. Does that mean I should go pursue marketing? No, because I don't think that's where I can, you know, have fulfillment and make money and and do good in the world. Um, but I'm curious to hear more from you. I hear what you're saying, but you bring your passion to the work you're doing. So, I hear you. I don't think it needs to define the specific career you choose, but I think there are signals by which you should follow like where you should go. And I think too many people at least when we were coming up the parents focus was always on you know becoming a doctor right so like this whole topic the fact that we have three of us that none of us are doctors means that we're all failures like let's be totally like from our family's standard complete failures complete failures so you know it's an interesting question because I read this book that I highly recommend by Cal Newport who's a researcher. He wrote this book called So Good They Can't Ignore You. He makes a point where you should get started with doing something and do it for a long time. And the passion comes later, usually later after you've done it for done done a long time. And the book Outliers also kind of talks about this concept of like 10,000 hours. 10,000 hours which is approximately 5 years of experience of doing something for a long time. Yeah, I think that's an interesting concept that it's like arranged marriage. It'll turn into love. It'll turn into love. Exactly. It's kind of That's a good good point. Good good analogy. But somebody else like I don't know how true this is. Somebody said this to me once said, "Go back to when you were in between the ages of 13 and 16. Whatever you were doing then is what you'll enjoy doing in later stages of your life." I felt it was definitely true because I remember getting together with my friends and just nerding out and like building. I'm sure I'm sure that's exactly what you guys were doing. But yes, I don't know if I agree with it 100%, but I think there's elements of it checking out. What are we doing? Tell me. So, at 13, I started an illegal business in middle school selling candy and gum and whatnot out of my backpack. Yeah. there's an entrepreneur. People are hungry. They need snacks and I would just sell it, part it out and sell it. So, public good an interesting uh you know first business concept which is just like customer service and talking to people and you know how to sell. Yeah. One thing that stands out is I spent a lot of time working alongside my dad for uh in his you know relatively small business and it was hard work. It was like out in the field. It was a lot of like customer service and dealing with people and dealing with different uh you know it sounds like your current job. Exactly. Exact right. So I think that entrepreneurial sense and again those sensibilities right but yeah interesting but I think that goes back to your original question. How do you pick your career? For me, I've always been looking at like business opportunities and things of that sort, looking at different markets. So, I've always had very a generalist perspective. Like I consider myself a super generalist. And there's a great book called Range. I'm forgetting the author right now, but the conversation of being a generalist versus being a specialist. I'm very much a generalist and build myself that way. So, I've just been that way my entire life. And let's do Do you ever feel like you wish you were more of a specialist? You know, I think and I asked that because I'm also I think a generalist and you know, I'm leading that. It's an interesting question because now that I have a kid, I'm thinking should he be a generalist or should he be a specialist? And I think the world we're in like technology is so pervasive. You're going to have to be able to make connections beyond your your field, right? You're going to have to be able to see, you know, the forest for the trees. And I think I want to go after the generalist for for my kids. I like how you went super NBA mode right there. You threw like three three. Yeah, I agree with you all that. I think generalist is probably the primary way to go. But having like some depth which again goes back to this like concept of like early years of your career. You can spend like five to 10 years just building depth in a few things because that range only happens over time. I think that range is very hard to like start with. You can't just start out as a generalist. Like if I ever meet like a fresh grad who's like hey I'm a generalist. I'm like dude like you don't know anything. Yeah, that's [ __ ] It doesn't work. That's a That's a management consultant. Yeah, I know that kid. Yeah, I was that kid. You were that kid. We were that kid. I know CPG. Yeah, media. Let's talk about it. So, just imagine how bad that is today though through chat GBT and all these other tools. Anyone can say that, right? Yeah. But you know I would take it even further and say that being a specialist and on a specialist track only in today's environment coming up I think is a pretty big risk. you know, unless you know, you're like a doctor or something very specific. But in the business field, tech fields, because things are moving so dynamically, your entire specialization that you've gone so so deep on can just erode in a matter of, you know, years and that's pretty scary. So I think I think there is value in doing both. But I want to come back to the point that you made Ameth about like your your your child. So what is what do your kids think about your work? What is their understanding or relationship to your work? Yeah, it's so interesting. He's taking more interest in like what do you do for work? And you know, he recently asked me like, "Do you make money? How much money do you make?" And like these are all like, "How much do you make? Let's just talk about it. Bring it up." Like why do they pay you for just doing meetings? Like it doesn't make any sense. He's taking a lot of interest. And the way I tell them is like I look at different companies. I I evaluate them. I try to see which ones have a large potential. What does that mean? And then I try to give them money so that they can grow faster and bigger and stronger. And he's like, "Oh, okay. Cool. Dad, you kind of sound like a pimp for companies." May maybe I am. Maybe that's maybe that's what venture capital is. Pimp capital. That whole like making money thing. My oldest son and I were talking about this recently. He he was like, you know, when I was younger, uh because we would be like, yeah, like you know, about how to go make some money, right? Like in a joking way, right? And he had this really literal imagination of that. He's like, you know, I used to think that you had like some sort of machine. You were like, you had a printing press. I was like, yeah, you know, that would actually, he's like, I didn't even know about printing presses. I thought you had some machine where you're like cutting and making the thing. Yeah, that would get me in jail. So that's a whole different ball game, dude. It's not just my kids. It's my parents. Like I don't know how I explain our our jobs to the kids or the parents, right? So I I started my career as an engineer working for a helicopter company and then then Boeing. So like they easily got it. I could take them to the factory floor and be like this is what we're making. But then I became a management consultant and I ever since then I have not been able to explain my job to anybody. Like no just it's been very hard. Is management consulting a madeup profession? It's a madeup profession. I explained it to my dad and he's like, "Doesn't make any sense. Why would a company pay you money for stuff they already know? It doesn't make any sense." And like for a long time I was like, "No, it does. It does." And then like I was like now I'm like, "Yep, you're right. It doesn't make any sense indeed." Like why you That's a different thing. Yeah. The level of incompetence that we bring to the table is different. I couldn't get over my billing rate and I didn't see I saw pennies of it when I first started, you know, in this industry. So, it's no testament to anything I made. But the billing rate that they would charge for kids that were like barely out of college, that was just ludicrous. I mean, that that was obscene. So, I don't know. The whole model is interesting. I think it's like kind of imploding a little bit. Yeah, that's a whole different topic. Um, so I think that's an interesting topic. I do think that like like every single day at work I am so scared. I feel like there is going to be a massive transformation for information jobs and it's very hard to tell which way it's going to go. A lot of technical folks are starting. Hey, Salman's here. Hello. Hello. So, I wanted to bring into this conversation for everyone that's viewing this, Salon is our wonderful producer who makes sure all the wires are connected, that we sound good, we look great, uh, and and that we're on running on schedule on time. So, Sman has a very different background from send your feedback to Salman. If you're unhappy, send it to him. Yeah, if if you're unhappy, it's Salman's fault. But, yeah, Salman, tell us about your career. Uh, how'd you how'd you arrive to it? What what do you think of all the stuff that's automation stuff that's happening? And yeah, I did want to say one thing. You just asked about what do your kids think about your job? And I had a realization that I think as a kid, your first example of a job is probably what your parents are doing. And so I think any job that your parent is having as a kid, like you probably look up to your parents. So you're going to think like, oh, that's a pretty cool thing that my dad does or my mom does. For example, for me, I work as a film editor. My daughter now, she'll watch TV and be like, "Why can't you work on this?" You have the coolest job out of all of us, by the way. I mean, around as boring as documentary, Bluey, bringing this all back to you mentioning no one here being a doctor, right? We grew up in a certain environment where your parents wanted you obviously immigrant parents wanting their kids to be reliable, safe careers, doctor, lawyer, engineer, but there's a whole generation of kids now who are growing up watching their parents work in tech and data and media and whatever else and realizing like, hey, that's also probably a path to go into private equity. Private equity, nothing else. He's going to turn his kids into PE bros. So someone so I'm really curious you know film editing film making these are careers that typically especially in the era that we grew up in were not welcome in DY communities households how did you fight that uphill battle you're talking about passion and what you were doing when you were 15 16 Amad I was doing video production in 8th grade and high school and I was and I was foolish enough, Emad, to follow my passion, right, and think that I can make it into into a career. And so you tell your parents, you want to go to film school, and they go, okay, but you got to study something else. But I think for any immigrant parent, the moment your kid starts making money or working, and they realize that you can be employed, then they go, "Oh, okay. Maybe there is a world here where this is a job." My mom went, "Oh, okay." Like, you can work here. Not to say it's as stable as other careers are. Like especially with AI, I feel like probably doctors are the safest. We didn't make it a doctor, so I don't know. No doctors on this podcast. Yeah. Zero for four. Safest job either, though. Yeah. Either a lot of stuff is getting automated there, too. all these jobs that are lawyers, doctors. I think their primary job is going to become therapist, but like with some doctor like they're going to be using AI and like just making you feel good about the opinions that you're giving you, you know? Dude, therapists are freaked out from chat GPT2. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. I think there's a level of paranoia right now. Yeah. I don't I don't imagine all white collar jobs, you know, disappearing that fast. But but yeah, I I think it's really interesting some what you're saying like once you start seeing the money roll in then that's the that was the whole reason right like I don't think maybe with doctors and stuff there's some inherent like you know respect for in the diy community but outside of that like it's just all about money right and there's that scarcity mindset our parents immigrated to this country and or in our in Immad's case Immad immigrated to this country and you know are just like figuring things out Right. Was there a moment when you were like, "Oh, you know, I went against the tide, but it it's working." I'm like fascinating. Like I want my kids to do something like what you did. I'm at a point now where now that I have kids and I think about, oh, you know, I I understand what the older generation was saying when they were saying, "Hey, don't go into that field." Not saying that I don't love the field I'm in, but as you get older, you get a family, stuff changes. I think postco a lot of industries had layoffs, AI scare, inflation, all this stuff. And so I don't think really any industry is safe, but yeah, it's like if I see kids now wanting to come into this industry and you go, hey, you got to it's kind of a weird time, right? It's like I don't know if it's always going to be that way, but in terms of making money, I think it's it's it's stability. our our parents, we might think of it as money, but I think for your parents, especially being being immigrants, like I think that's what any parent wants for their kid is stability, but it's I think it's the same for any industry. Like all of what you guys do, I still can't even understand what you guys do or explain it, but you found a way to make that a career. Bullshitting for a living. I think there's an interesting there's an interesting thread there though that as like immigrant gener immigrants like evolve generations. I think there's also this like I I think buildup of wealth that like goes generation to generation which enables the later generations to take risks and go divert divers diversify out of safer careers into maybe high more higher risk higher reward careers. And I think you saw that like throughout post great depression with other immigrant communities in the US. I foresee that similar path we're on, right? Like maybe the generations after us take other interesting careers that may have seemed very risky to us but might actually pan out for them because they might not have the same kind of dependency on stability that we might feel today. White privilege. because that's what we're gonna get. Yeah, they'll get that's what we're shooting for. I think there's something there's something about that like the the prior few generations so much instability for the last, you know, easily hundred years and yeah, totally that that sits with you in terms of your psyche. Good stuff. Well, Silman, we we appreciate you sharing your thoughts. Thanks so much. And we appreciate you coming down from the studios, the ivory towers into the little nonsense uh studio. So to bring it back to what we were discussing earlier, Emad, your leaf blur problem. Yeah. I mean, for being a tech guy, I'm surprised you don't know about this. Okay. So, what are what are you pointing at? This one is called it's it's like for your keyboard, right? What's called the Wolf Box Meaflow 50. It's very powerful. Got it on Amazon. It's like 40. It's probably going to be sponsor number one hopefully. You and notable. Yeah, dude. I took the fans outside, sprayed them, all the dust came out. There you go. With that thing, it's powerful. It's powerful. It has three speeds. I will get that thing. All right. Send send me the It looks like by by looking at it, you can't tell that this thing's going to do anything good. There we go. I think it's quite powerful. Ammon, uh worth at least a few thousand in sponsorship money. There you go. But anyway, Son, thanks so much. I hope to see you next time. I'll talk to you soon. Bye. But don't totally leave cuz then everything will break down. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Like we still need you in the ivory tower. So, okay. I So, we've talked we've covered a lot of ground. How do you think about your career now as you're raising little humans? Like where how are you guiding them? Like, you know, and the way I want to frame this is like if you ask my mom, in her heart of hearts, she still wishes that I was some sort of medical professional, like a doctor, uh, a surgeon. My dad wanted me to be like a CPA or a pharmacist. I know you have that whole rant about not following your passion, but I would love to be in a place where my kids can follow kind of careers that they're actually interested in more, something that can tie in their unique personality and skills. And I think it also ties back to something Salman said which is really insightful. He was mentioning that the first, you know, person you see with the job is your parent. And you know, what's the tone you're setting for them? Are you enjoying your job? Are you showing that this is like it's fun to get work done or are you always just like treating it as a drag? Right? Like I think all of these things they really pick up on and I talk to my kids about this stuff. I think I have a general positive disposition towards my work. So I think it's to me like getting them excited about the concept of work and not just like you know it's a drag and it's like you know something negative which is easy to fall into. That that's a really good insightful way to think about it. We can set them up for success in a way that they have more choices than we had. What what I don't know how we will evolve in our own thinking in the next 10 years, right? How will we feel 10 years from now where will we be want to be more prescriptive because we're more scared at that time and be like, hey, like we think you should do like one of these three things or will we keep the same, right? Because there is like there are folks today who ask me, hey, what's your like in this age of AI like what should I be advising my kid to do? Mhm. And my answer is very like crisp and straightforward. Like you should go into core sciences because that's the only defensible thing that it's hard to tell that that's going to go away. But that's not what I necessarily want for my kid. Like I don't want to be that prescriptive to my kids, right? Yeah, I think the one thing I would add is when I think about my kid, I want to give him maybe the solace or the comfort that I'm with you with your, you know, this is a discovery process, right? I'm here to guide you, but I don't want to like I don't want to pressure you into a single direction. I say this now, but maybe 10 years from now, maybe I do get more prescriptive. I don't know. like I want to give him the comfort of exploring um cuz I think that's something and if I'm hearing from everyone like we didn't have the opportunity to do right because of the pressures from our families because of pressures like from society it seems like in some ways it was already prescribed like the path we were going to go down I had a lot of options I had like three options at least like doctor lawyer engineer and they're very different so that was good very specific speific type of doctor like very specific. I think that the that the typical job has gotten very demanding and it's going to continue to get demanding. So I think that's the hard part like how do we stay present for the kids while this is also going on, you know. Well, you know, the guy that wrote um 4,000 Weeks, Oliver Burkeman, uh he has a newer book called Meditations for Mortals, and he talks about this where essentially we are kind of finite beings, right? When it comes to time, energy, so on and so forth. And there's this concept that we can if we can just manage everything to a certain degree and the certain degree is impossible to reach. But we think that if we can just manage every you know task, relationship, outcome, we'll finally have control. But the part that gets lost is the demands are infinite. So the demands from work will be infinite. the demands from kids, from your wife, your and you know, it just keeps ballooning. You have to recognize that, you know, there's certain limitations you have as a human, right? It's liberating almost to acknowledge that and and be okay with not hitting perfection or whatever the management of things to the to the complete degree, work, kids, wife, parents, whatever. So, I don't know. I think I think that's like really has it's a different different perspective. It's a liberated liberating perspective and in some ways like being very okay with the fact that some fires are going to let you have to let burn. Exactly. Especially at work. That is absolutely okay. I mean even kids, right? Like I think all three of us are are very active hands-on dads. That's one of the things we aspire to. But have you noticed that if you if you have moments where you have a spike in time spent with your child or something really kind of fun that you do with your child, then that's the new like benchmark for the next couple of days. One, I see like a immediate return on like how much like kind of communication and affection I get. So there's like positive returns, but on the other hand, like there's a there's kind of like a request for more time from the kids too, right? Like cuz that spike was so good. Totally. But it's impossible to maintain that both for yourself and your child. So you have to be okay with like hey even with my child I'm going to have to like you know not be at 100% you know or 120% I should say the whole week or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So this I I tried to tell my my kid this that my relationship with my dad when I was a kid, when I was his age was very different, right? Because I didn't see him as often. He was busy working. Um you know, we didn't have like this quote unquote friendly relationship, right? He was friendly, but he was also like the patriarch of the family, right? like there was a certain level of like respect and like I I try to tell him that like hey look like things are different now because that's just how society is. We're much more open. We're much more involved and I'm grateful for that. But at the same time like you know you should be thankful for it too because it wasn't always like this for for the previous generations. And then like he'll say something like oh can you can we play basketball today? And I'm like okay. Just in general it's like balancing work and kids right? That's like the, you know, there's nothing that humbles you faster than like going from, I don't know, like a global leaders meeting and then like cleaning your kids ti with a lot, you know, all in the span of like five or like having to make the silly choice. Are you going to have cereal out of a bowl or a sippy cup? Yeah. Like, oh, of course, the sippy cup. Like, no, you can't even do that. Yeah. This is the grind is is the part that that doesn't end. And in some ways, it's it's fun. It's exhausting to say the least, but there are funny moments out of it. Yeah. I mean, heck, we we got to create a podcast out of it. So, that's true. So, my takeaway for everyone out there is that there's no easy way to choose a career. It's not just a one-way street. And then, as it comes for your kids, there's no good way to guide them. I think this new era requires flexibility. And lastly, enjoy it. There's no work life balance. There's no such thing. My belief is that sometimes work flexes, other times life flexes. Just be present. Take it one day at a time and uh enjoy with a grind. Cool. So, on to the next topic. This is new. We're going to see how it works. Surprise. Surprise topic, huh? It's called Get Off My Lawn. It's an unpopular dad tip. A take that other dads or younger generations would disagree with. So, do you have any or I can rail on passion again? That is my get off the lawn topic of the day. I feel similarly about cryptocurrency. I think cryptocurrency is a scam by younger generation to get all the money from the older generation. It's like they're like, "Hey, we should all value this thing." And we're like, "No, no, this is all made up. NFDs are made up." So, I I I'm not on that train. 100%. It seems like a scam. Probably is a scam. By the way, please invest in our noncoin. Noncoin. Noncoin. I I was going to call it nonscent. Well, that does it for our show. Thank you, Saja. Thank you, Amad. Once again, uh, thanks so much for joining. You can find us at Nonsense Show on Instagram. Give us a follow, subscribe. It helps the algorithm. and send us notes. We want to hear from you. All right. And last but not least, leave a review. You got a leaf blowing job. [Music]