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Chuck Hayes and David Gould react to a dramatic Spanish Grand Prix, led by Lewis Hamilton's first Ferrari win and the ripple effects across the Formula One standings. They dig into Kimi Antonelli's pressure moment, George Russell and Mercedes, Ferrari's Barcelona upgrades, Aston Martin's uncomfortable questions, rising DNF concerns, and the schedule run toward Austria, Silverstone, Monza, Mexico, Las Vegas, and the late-season title fight.
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Chequered Flag Report - Episode 6 Transcript
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[00:00] Chuck Hayes: Welcome to the checkered Flag Report. This is Chuck Hayes with David Gould and we're here talking Formula One. David, great to be with you. As we just came through Barcelona and man, we got a lot of storylines.
[00:13] David Gould: Do we really? You know, it's kind of a ho hum thing. I don't think there were any surprises. Yeah, that sarcasm. It was an incredible race. And hey, man, Lewis, what can you say? 41 years old and he's saying, oh, you think I'm through, do you? You think I'm done? No, I'm not done.
[00:32] Chuck Hayes: Checkered Flag report. We wanted to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development, apartments, business affairs, real estate assessment. That's 626-4401, 545. Chavez Realty Development, 626-442-1545. So, David, one of the things I like to do after a race is go around and look at the various teams and see what their storyline of the week is. And, and one of the things I did was I got directed to the Ferrari merch page and it's just beginning. David, the site's crashing. This thing is taking off. And when you look at Lewis's last three weeks, Canada with a second, Monaco with a second, and now Spain with a first. Here's a gentleman that had struggled, had never won in a Ferrari, picked up win 106. And oh, yeah, I've got seven wins
[01:27] David Gould: in sp in Spain and think, you know, the most iconic brand in motorsports. I think the most iconic brand. And he's, he's there he is right at the top wearing it, wearing the red.
[01:39] Chuck Hayes: I think that's what they've envisioned. And as we say, as things go on, teammates, you see how rough it is right now for leclair.
[01:49] David Gould: Yeah.
[01:49] Chuck Hayes: And that's something that's not going to. I don't think it's going to slow down. I think Hamilton now going to Spielberg Austria in two weeks and then getting a chance to go back home. It's going to be an amazing, amazing next two races and that's the one thing I'm excited about. I want to remind everybody, we want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development, and also coach Harvey Hyde, Football Promotions of Nevada for powering the fastest hour in radio. Follow us at LVchecker flag. Vchecker flag. That's the checkered flag report. So, David, what you took out of this with Hamilton, but let's go below the surface a little bit.
[02:31] David Gould: Yeah.
[02:32] Chuck Hayes: And tell me what you felt when you were watching this as this was evolving, because it wasn't flat out he was just going to win it. Yeah, there was a lot of things that went on with it.
[02:42] David Gould: Yeah, it was pretty crazy. And I just want to take a quick look at the race results to see. Yeah, see, there was a significant gap. There was a 22nd gap between him and George Russell. And you know, George was the, George actually looked phenomenal. I mean he was, he took it in, in qualifying. He took it, I think in the practice races too. He looked great. And then I think he had pole position too. That's as well. And Kimmy had second and. Oh, poor Kimmy.
[03:14] Chuck Hayes: Yeah.
[03:14] David Gould: But from your standpoint, are you talking about Hamilton?
[03:17] Chuck Hayes: Yeah, yeah. Well, no, because right now the storyline is the. We always have to go to the leader of the pack.
[03:23] David Gould: Sure.
[03:23] Chuck Hayes: It's still Kimmy Antonelli. What were your feelings when you were watching that and you saw Antonelli running down Russell's tailpipe and the way he was pushing him and pushing him and pushing him.
[03:35] David Gould: Yeah.
[03:35] Chuck Hayes: And Russell seemed to have a little bit of anxiety watching him drive.
[03:40] David Gould: Right.
[03:40] Chuck Hayes: And Toto was a little bit. Or whoever, that voice in the air about, hey guys, we got a bigger agenda here. And then all of a Sudden at lap 62, Antonelli's car expired. What could that feel like? David? I've been on the freeway one time when I blew an engine. Okay. It was not a fun thing. I was on the 10 going west, trying to get to the 110south and it went like poof. And I saw that white smoke go up behind Antonelli. Just had one of those scenarios. I, I think he would have caught Russell.
[04:14] David Gould: He might very well have caught him. But why don't you ask, why don't you ask George? You know, George seems to know what this is about, when the car just dies on you. Of course, George wasn't 62 laps into a. I think it was a 66 lap race before it happened. So that makes it even tougher. But hey, man, this is, it's not really payback, but it is, it is. Now you understand the sport, as I said before, racing is not only about winning, not about the most points, not about the championships. It's great when you have those things and I'm not taking away. But it's also defined by defeat and by unpredicted stuff that comes up, like the car just crapping out on you.
[05:01] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're talking Formula one and we want to remind everybody we're here every week, same time, same channel. All right, so here's the little Little sub note that came out after the race.
[05:12] David Gould: Yeah.
[05:12] Chuck Hayes: That Kimmy Antonelli's car left the track four times during the race without justifiable reason. The stewards acknowledged that the driver did not receive a black white flag after his third infringement, but rather after his fourth, as one earlier was only detected later in the race. So when you hear McLaren come on and tell Lando Norris, hey, guess what, Antonelli, Track limits. It seems as if both sides are pressuring, pressuring, pressuring. This guy now, he drove a pretty, you know, wide open race, so I was watching him maneuver and remember, he's racing as the championship leader. And yet there seems to be a little bit of a lack of respect in regards to how everyone's pushing his buttons.
[06:01] David Gould: And yeah. Now just for the, for the audience out there, so that, you know what, what breaking the track limits are generally when they're coming out of the curve and because that's when it happens the most, when they're coming out of a turn and these guys seem to go over the white line and into the, into the checkered line a little bit. When all four tires break that white line, that is considered out of the bound, out of bounds. And let me tell you, I was watching and I saw Kimmy very close. Many, many times. He was riding that thing very close. There was no, there was no, you know, even if he didn't break it, he was always making it questionable that he did. So there's that. Yeah, he's, he's pushing. Maybe he's pushing a little bit too hard. Who knows? But, you know, he's the championship points leader. You can't take that away from him.
[06:52] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould as we talk Formula One. David, from your standpoint, when you start looking at the fact that we're having this discussion, and again, when you look at the standings, Lando Norris, 5, Oscar Piastri 6 Max Verstappen, 7. In the construct. In the driver standings, where are we at in regards to this? Is this going to be, in your opinion, the kind of run that Hamilton goes on that we don't know what could happen? You know, right now he has 115 points. Antonelli at 156. There's a lot of big races coming up in the next month and a half and this is a time when you're seeing Lewis very light, very relaxed, comfortable, very. Just kind of in his zone.
[07:43] David Gould: Yes.
[07:43] Chuck Hayes: As someone who was a previous champion.
[07:46] David Gould: Yes. And he, the storyline is that he had a very long sit down. I may be off season with The Ferrari engineers and was making a lot of suggestions about the car, and they were not dismissing him. They were actually incorporating what he was saying into the car. And it sure seems to be paying off because there is a radical change now as far as Kimberly Kimmy's concerned in the, in, in first place. He's now, now he's got to feel the veterans, the veterans that are coming up right on his rear. George is still in it. Lewis is, is, is coming up right on his tail now. And don't ever, ever rule out Max Verstappen coming out, coming and just having that, that moment in the season where he gets three, four races where he's on the podium and he picks up and he's right. And, you know, as they say, right on your tailpipe, you know, one of
[08:38] Chuck Hayes: the things that you don't get to see until afterwards and what they talk about. Ferrari brought a considerable upgrade package of a new front wing, a floor, a side pod and diffuser parts to Barcelona. And Hamilton seemingly right at home with the SF26, where on the flip side of the coin, the guy that was the leader when he came in, Charles leclair, is just having the worst three weeks, much like Hamill, like Russell's having. Yes, but in a kind of different way.
[09:10] David Gould: Yeah, Russell, I mean, excuse me, LeClaire is having. The storyline with him seems to be that when he, when he did not, when something happened, when he did not perform, when he did not make podium, when his expectations, when the expectations for he and Ferrari were not met, that, that it was car error, it was engineering issues. Now they're starting to look at Charles and, and wonder, okay, well, what's going on here? We cannot, we can't make excuses for you anymore.
[09:42] Chuck Hayes: Good news for everyone out there who loves Pirelli. Well, they're going to be on for another several years as the official tire sponsor. We're going to box. Box, box. We come back from this short pit stop. We'll talk more Formula One after Barcelona. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvcheckered Flag. At lvcheckered Flag. Welcome back. Checkered flag report, Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're talking Formula One and we enjoyed this past weekend in Spain, the Spanish Grand Prix, and of course, we've got a week off and then we're going to Spielberg, Austria at the Red Bull Ring. David, I want to bring up a point that happened in testing, the first testing of the afternoon when they got to Spain, and yes, the weather was really, really warm and some younger Drivers got the opportunity and I'm just going to give you their last names and who they actually got to sit in the car for. For McLaren with four, four neroli for Lando Norris. Vesty was in the Mercedes for Kimmy Antonelli. Iwasa in the Red Bull for Isaac Hajar. How about this pressure? Bogonovich in the Ferrari for Hamilton. Browning in the Williams for Albon. Aaron in the Audi for Hulkenberg. And then the American Colin Herta in for Sergio Perez. So imagine, David, you're one of those young guys charging, looking for that opportunity and they say, okay, bring your helmet, you're going to Spain. And if you're a guy like Colin Herta, great American hope sitting in there for Sergio Perez.
[11:18] David Gould: Yes. Well, you know, it's Herta kind of represents a great deal of need for an American presence on this, on this track or in this circuit, I should say there, there are no Americans. I think the last one kind of washed out and that was. Who was that again? I can't remember. Do you remember?
[11:41] Chuck Hayes: You know, that's part of the problem, the fact that we don't miss him and I don't demean him at all.
[11:46] David Gould: Right.
[11:46] Chuck Hayes: Rather just move on past that because he had a tough outing and oh man, did not. Well, I want to remind everybody that our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development, Apartments, business affairs, real estate assessment, that's 626-440-1545 that Chavez Realty development. So with that said, David, when you look at the back of the grid, if you will, we all go on and on about how great Kimmy's doing. Yeah, when you go at round, well, number 22 and we start talking about driver replacements, Lance Stroll in aston Martin is 22nd. Can't be a good Monday morning ever at Aston Martin the way this is going. Sergio Perez in the Cadillac, we know that's a development situation. His teammate Valtteri Bottas also in that situation. Nico Nico Hulkenberg 0.0 19th, Fernando Alonso with one point. The Spaniard not having an opportunity again to finish, having a DNF for himself for mechanical issues along with his teammate strolling in the Aston Martin. And then you've got Alexander Albon. Carlos signs at 14, Arvad Lindblad at 13, Cola Pinto at 12, Ollie Biermann at 11. And then Liam Lawson who is really on the rise and because of his success in, in Japan with a second place in a podium, he is really on a positive mood. So racing bulls, having that. So with that said, David, we talk about this As a business, how long can Aston Martin go on with a driver of the level of. Of Fernando Alonso and the son of the owner of Aston Martin? And they're not having any production and it started in Australia. How difficult is it for that team to coalesce around everybody on those Mondays after you come back and we're, you know, round into it, how many number of races, what. What could be that like on Monday morning there?
[14:03] David Gould: Oh, it's got to be terrible. And I don't think, I'm going to be frank, I don't know if Austin Martin really deserves to be there. I mean, well, they paid their entry fee. Well, that's the thing, you know, it's. It's. And because they're. They haven't been competitive at all for, I think, a number of seasons now. You've got drivers, you've got Fernando Alonzo, who is, you know, one of the, you know, arguably one of the guys who goes up on the Mount Rushmore of drivers. He's that good, but he hasn't been able. It's got to be frustrating for him. Now stroll, son, I think, has been plagued not only with mechanical problems, but mistakes. I don't know if that. If he's really got the chops. Now, the fact that he's the owner's son means that he's probably not going to go anywhere and that, honestly, I'm going to be frank. That, to me, is unfortunate because it should be. It should be. People want to see winning teams, and especially, you know, the Brits. It's their. It's their. It's one of their cars.
[15:08] Chuck Hayes: It's Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lv, Checker flag. At lb. Checker flag. So from your standpoint, yeah. As we start manipulating this, when you look at this group, you in the test drivers, you don't see anyone from Aston Martin that they let shake the car down. That would mean that they're so concerned about how that car is developing or not developing that they didn't even want to bring anyone's up for discussion point. Because immediately when you look at that and you see these drivers in these cars, all. All these guys are pretty secure in their rides. So this is more of a testing and driver development. So that's a very unique situation to be in, being that third driver and that being the guy, if something was to happen to somebody, they get that opportunity right away. So these are the ongoing storylines as we go through this summer and ultimately, there may be some changes down the road. We're not predicting that it's going to happen. It's just the normalcy. Because remember it was three years ago when, when Sergio Perez was the second to Max Verstappen and he kept telling everybody, this car is not right, this car is not right. And then it proved out why? Because Max said the car wasn't right.
[16:23] David Gould: Right. And, and that was true. And you know, Checo is a hero in Mexico, so people want to see him at least competitive, if not winning, but at least competitive in the pack so they can cheer for the guy, which is a big deal. That's what. But people are not taking into place, they keep quantifying this and there's also this, this idea of fan, you know, love for these people and, and how much that means. And frankly that, that, that equals dollars. All right, so out of the group you were talking about, I don't see anybody who doesn't, you know, there's a couple of guys I think, you know, you talked about Hajar and Hajar is proving himself. I think he's a great, he's, he's in there. He's a great driver. Ghastly's doing well in 8th position going down the line here. Lynn Blad is, I think for a first year, he's doing okay. He's doing pretty well. But also you gotta, you gotta look at this thing and see the disparity in points. Okay. The leaders are all, they're, they're three guys in triple points and then there's this whole body of people in double points and we're starting to approach the middle of the season and you'd like to see a little bit more competition at the top and, and not this, and not this. 0,000. You know, Fernando Alonso got one point. You know why he got one point? Because somebody got a. Disqualified at 10th. They got knocked out at 10th and he got moved up.
[18:00] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. And David, one of those points that you're making, and I look at at a bigger level in regards to the stopwatch is that when, when you run a race and Oscar Piastri from McLaren Mercedes is 58 seconds behind.
[18:16] David Gould: Yes.
[18:16] Chuck Hayes: Lewis Hamilton. That speaks to me also that Hajar was a lap down and then you dropped down to 11th spot. Gabriel Bortoletto for the Audi was two laps down and then you dropped down to 14. Sergio Perez was three laps down.
[18:34] David Gould: Yeah.
[18:34] Chuck Hayes: So when you have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 DNFs.
[18:40] David Gould: Yep. And that's.
[18:41] Chuck Hayes: And then you have this disparity in lap Times.
[18:45] David Gould: Yep.
[18:46] Chuck Hayes: It's really telling in regards to. Don't look at the object over here, the flashy one. Let's look deeper into the cause a little bit.
[18:54] David Gould: What that, what that reflects to me is the issues with the car. And even if the car's running properly, it's the style of the car. This 50, 50 electric. I noticed that in practice and in quali, There was a lot of snapping going on, a lot of oversteer, a lot of understeer. The. The. And if you don't know what snapping is, the car, just the back end of the car kind of breaks loose slightly. And they have to correct. Well, they can correct and it's safe, but they lose time. And also, if you look at the races, the last two, three, four races, whatever, we're looking at five to six DNFs in every single race. That's like almost 25% of the field is not making it.
[19:36] Chuck Hayes: I didn't remember that from the last couple years when we were doing that. We didn't have that many DNFs. It was an accident or something here or there. But when you watch a Mercedes power unit go poof.
[19:48] David Gould: Yeah.
[19:49] Chuck Hayes: And two weeks before it happened to George Russell.
[19:53] David Gould: Right.
[19:53] Chuck Hayes: And you know, these are the. The fastest cars in the field and
[19:57] David Gould: they were killing it.
[19:58] Chuck Hayes: And they were. And then you have, you know, a situation like Charles leclair with brake issues and. And then he had a power steering failure. These are something. These are the most precise cars. They're almost like.
[20:12] David Gould: Almost precise.
[20:13] Chuck Hayes: You know, something that comes out of a science fiction deal.
[20:18] David Gould: Yeah.
[20:18] Chuck Hayes: The number of sensors that are on there, all the detail, how that apart failure happens. We all know that in racing.
[20:25] David Gould: Yeah.
[20:26] Chuck Hayes: But this is an epidemic.
[20:27] David Gould: Well, think about it. Let's say you have a Swiss watch and that thing is worth a hundred thousand dollars and it's a absolutely premier timepiece. And you jump in the water and you take it scuba diving and you expect that thing to be running and working. It doesn't. It does not jive. I think that the complexity of these cars has finally reached a point where A, the drivers are having a hard time handling them and B, the car itself is so complicated that it's not. The durability is in question when you have six DNFs in a race that don't. That aren't crash related, then. Come on.
[21:08] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvcheckered Flag. At lvcheckered Flag. And as we discuss this, we want to bring everyone Inside the garage, if you will, inside the paddock. Because we're not experts in regards to that. We're analyzing what we see. We're fortunate enough to be attending the Las Vegas Formula One race for several years now and the exposure to that and see the passion and the detail that comes from this. We want you to jump on board. Whether you love a certain kind of car, you like the color of the car, or you like the number of the car, Formula one has got something for you. So, David, as we get ready to Box, box, box. We come back from this break, we will detail what the constructor standings are as we continue to talk Formula One at LV checker flag. At LV checker flag. Thank you for staying tuned. Welcome back. Checkered flag report. We're in segment number three, Chuck Hayes with David Gould. As we loved doing a wrap up and a breakdown of what went on in Spain. The 2026 Spanish Grand Prix won by Lewis Hamilton of Ferrari picked up 25 points plus the trophy. Add that to his collection in the room in the Hamilton mansion where now he has seven Spanish Grand Prix trophies. Baby, I love that room.
[22:28] David Gould: I think Kimmy's gonna have to remove a few fur coats so he has more room. Man.
[22:32] Chuck Hayes: Lewis, excuse me, Excuse me. You got you. Maybe you have a story there. The storyline of, of talk about the ancillary things.
[22:41] David Gould: Yes.
[22:42] Chuck Hayes: How about Kimmy's towel being returned by Kimmy K. Yes. That was also a very nice social media move and Kimmy had a lot of fun with it in regards to his Instagram. David, I can't even believe we're talking.
[22:53] David Gould: I know this is so stupid, but
[22:55] Chuck Hayes: you know what, it's talkable, it's fun and we love talking Formula One. We want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development Apartments, Business affairs, real estate assessment. That is 626-4401-5545. So we talked about disparity, David, and we talked about, you know, the cut line and where things go as we move on to the next opportunity which will be the Red Bull ring in Spielberg, Austria. And boy, if that doesn't shine a bright light on Max Verstappen and where things are at with Red Bull. So I want you to kind of give some insight in regards to why there is these mechanical issues, the DNFs, the three laps down, the two laps down, and then you have the upper echelon where there's only five cars on the, on the lead lap. Take us through from your standpoint, what you see.
[23:46] David Gould: Well, I can Only address this globally, I think, because again, and to continue our, from our last segment, it's, to me, it's about the car and when they made it 50, 50 electric. It also, and I also talked about the tire snapping in practice and in quality. When you deploy that electric is the, they have passing zones and there are certain spots when you, you, you deploy it and they're generally, you're coming out of a curve. So let's say you're, you know, three quarters of the way through a curve and you deploy that electric. If that's, you know, assuming that's possible, that there's so much power that's brought to those, to those, to those rear wheels that, yeah, it does cause the snapping, but if you do it right, if you do it right, you are on target. So I think a lot of this stuff and the fact that these guys are in the back of the pack and can't pass, maybe the fact that they have, don't have a handle on deployment of that electrical power. And also if, if it's, if the car has, seems to have some sort of a lag or if it, how, it's, how it's engineered into the car, it seems to be, to me, to be another big complexity. And I think that may be the reason why you see such a disparity, because some of these guys can deal with it and some of these guys can't. And I don't know, maybe the, and the, maybe how the engineers create it and set it up in the, in the garage.
[25:18] Chuck Hayes: It's Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're talking Formula One. We want to have everyone follow us because we follow everybody we can. At lvcheckered Flag. At lvcheckered Flag so that we get all that great social media content. So exactly to your point, David.
[25:31] David Gould: Yes.
[25:32] Chuck Hayes: Imagine you are Nico Hulkenberg. You're on course for your first points of the season, but all of a sudden your race ends. Why? A stone kicked up by Liam Lawson hits the emergency kill switch on his Audi, shutting the car down instantly. Sometimes racing is all about skill and sometimes this comes down to pure bad luck. That's what you're talking about, how intricate these cars are that a stone could hit emergency kill switch, which is for safety purposes. Right. So that if something electrical happens or if there's a fire.
[26:06] David Gould: Right.
[26:06] Chuck Hayes: That anyone can get there, shut the power point power unit down so safety workers can work with this thing.
[26:15] David Gould: Yes.
[26:15] Chuck Hayes: And you catch a stone and your day's over.
[26:18] David Gould: Well, yeah. I mean, first of all, I Want to know. I want people to understand that I sound extremely critical and I seem to do that very well. But at the end of the day, what I want to see is good racing. I want to see good racing and I want as many, if not all the cars on the field, and I want them all with this, without these three lap gaps, which quite frankly, honestly, they make it. They do pose another danger to drivers when they have to lap these guys. And it's another obstacle in the. Now they do. They do pull to the right and let the guys go by, but it's still. It. It still can be very, very dangerous having another obstacle on the thing. So when I sound critical, it's just because I want to see competitive driving. I want to see as many of these guys in it as possible. Possible.
[27:10] Chuck Hayes: And you know, one of the things when you talk about that, I think back to why I really am not a fan of way they qualify. I don't like that many cars on the track. And you having to find a hole to qualify and be on a hot lap to be able to make your. Your, your deal and have someone go off or get. I mean, I don't understand why they do it that way. It's just the way they do it. I would rather see single car qualifying to go out there and push it as hard as you can.
[27:40] David Gould: Yes.
[27:40] Chuck Hayes: And powers be based upon your driving skill, not with somebody who happens to pull out and come out in front of you or have an issue where they have a mechanic. You know, for example, just say Hulkenberg was out there on a qualifying lap and he was, you know, coming down the straight. And then you had, you know, let's say Bordetto was hauling the mail and he was on a hot lap and also the car dies in front of him. You've got a safety issue. And plus it wrecked his lap. And the way they talk about these tires. And if you watch Formula one and you see the tire blankets.
[28:16] David Gould: Yeah.
[28:16] Chuck Hayes: And you see how careful they are about the tire temps and what they do with them. That any little scuffing or things that happen in regards to that shred and then you see it, you know, if a car goes the distance. Now, Hamilton did a great job. Check that. Yeah. Lewis did a great job into maintaining his tires the course of the race. Plus he got a benefit of being in on a virtual safety car. He was able to pit and get four fresh ones and get out there and lead the way.
[28:46] David Gould: Yep.
[28:47] Chuck Hayes: And that's just part of the look that goes with Formula one.
[28:49] David Gould: And that's okay. I'm not arguing that point, but I. I will say that this was an especially warm race. The temperatures are hot, and two of the drivers in the top 10, I think it was Max and Lewis. I can't remember. Two of them started with Softs. They came out on Softs, and their idea was to get a good jump at the beginning, try and get placement, if not pole, and. And lead the race. Well, it didn't work out so well. It didn't work out that. That well for these guys. And they came in and pitted immediately. And that's. I also think that with these electrical, with the electrical component in this car, how it must eat those tires up even more because of the, the incredible speeds that they are coming out of those turns.
[29:35] Chuck Hayes: We want to thank Coach Harvey Hyde, Football Promotions of Nevada for powering the fastest siren radio at lvcheckered Flag. All right, so let's just dissect it from your point.
[29:45] David Gould: Yeah.
[29:45] Chuck Hayes: And again, I know you, you're an optimist. Your champagne glasses, even though it doesn't sound like it. I know, but think about this. If we were just talking about Max Verstappen.
[29:55] David Gould: Yeah.
[29:55] Chuck Hayes: On an equally prepared car, running and picking up 12 points, but him being 40.497 seconds off the win.
[30:07] David Gould: Yeah.
[30:08] Chuck Hayes: So in what world, in what series would max verstappen be 40 seconds off of a Lewis Hamilton drive?
[30:16] David Gould: I'll tell you how in a car that's 50, 50, where. Where deployment and electricity matters so much that when you, when you're, when you're deploying it to get past somebody, to get into position, and it's not there when you need it for another move. That's drag. It must drive him nuts. It must drive him crazy. And as we spoke before, based on his, his attitude, what's going on right now, I would not be surprised if he hung it up.
[30:48] Chuck Hayes: Chuck Hayes with David Goul. We're talking Formula One. And it's interesting you say that because, yeah, they're highly compensated, but it's not like they want to have handcuffs put on them. They want to go race. And if it's something that they talk about, you know, you don't really see a lot of. You hear honesty in the press functions, but they're very careful in regards to how they address it. I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. When they're on the yacht at Monaco on the off week and they say, hey, this is the hand we've been dealt. You know, it's A very formal organization and there's a lot of power and there was a lot of decisions made on this that we saw play out in the first week of the year when, when they were down in Australia after the testing we, this is playing out so it's better. We've seen the Mercedes. We know that, that Antonelli is super competitive. We know that George Russell is now Hamilton's in the conversation. There is a shift. LeClaire is struggling. So I think the door is maybe opening a little bit for Lando Norris. I think that whole exercise of him standing in front of the mirror and saying I'm the world champion, I think it's paying off a little bit. I think we're going to see a summer run, if you will of Max Lando Lewis. We know that Antonelli and Russell are there.
[32:17] David Gould: Yeah.
[32:17] Chuck Hayes: Who among the next group they're saying Pierre Gasly is really having a great summer, if you will. That's going to be the surprise. From your standpoint, who are you excited about seeing?
[32:29] David Gould: Well, I would see. First of all I like Gastly a lot. I wouldn't mind seeing him up there in the top. Hajar I think is, is great and he's running great. Lynnblad for a first timer I think looks pretty good. And looking down the list here, I don't see, I don't see. I'd like, you know what, just for kind of like my own sake, I would like to see Checo doing much better. I think it's very tough and, and I think that, that if we get another two or three races into the season and we see this many people in single digits in, in driver standings then we know we have a real problem.
[33:10] Chuck Hayes: You know when you say that let's compliment for these guys who are the back for a long time. Liam Lawson racing bulls, Red Bull Ford and Arvid Lindblad. I agree with you 100 racing bulls, red Bull Ford.
[33:22] David Gould: Yep.
[33:22] Chuck Hayes: You know the fact that they were a pull off at 8, 9 and yeah they were lapped down but that really doesn't matter. The fact that they are competitive and then Cola, Pinto and the Alpine. That is just awesome. So Gasly, Gasly and Bortoletto, Lawson and Lindblad, Oscar and Lando. It's an interesting almost like an eight driver tango.
[33:46] David Gould: Yes.
[33:46] Chuck Hayes: That we're looking at the race within the race day. We're coming up to box. Box box. For our final segment we're going to talk about the schedule. Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Follow us at lvchecker Flagger Flag. We'll get back with you. Welcome back. Final segment, checkered Flag report. This is Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We want to thank our presenting sponsor, Chavez Realty Development, Apartments business affairs, real estate assessment. 626-440-1545. That's Chavez Realty Development. Okay, David, the reason why we do this is the road to Vegas and had a chance to go up 15 this past weekend and go by the Grand Prix Plaza and run a couple hot laps down the Strip, although the traffic was a little bit slow and there was not a lot of green light nights in regards to that. So let's look at the run that we go on before we get back to Vegas. So we just finished round seven in Spain. Now we're coming around eight in two weeks on June 28th, Spielberg in Austria. Then fourth of July weekend in Great Britain, July 5th. And that is going to be a tremendous homecoming.
[34:51] David Gould: Oh, yeah.
[34:51] Chuck Hayes: Pursue Lewis Hamilton, who won this.
[34:54] David Gould: That's gonna be three years ago.
[34:55] Chuck Hayes: Yeah. Was that a great moment, that trophy? Boy, that is a beautiful trophy. Then we have a couple weeks off and we go to SPA in Belgium, July 19, and then around 11, July 26 in Budapest. Then we have a little bit of a break. It's August 23rd, Zandvoort in the Netherlands. And then we look past Labor Day weekend and it is round 13 at Monza in Italy. And imagine if Sir Lewis was able to take Great Britain and Italy this year. That would be something else. I'm not saying that's going to happen. I'm just saying think of the possibilities in regards to that. Then they go back to Madrid on September 13th, and then September 26th, they're in Baku for round 15. And then October 11th, Singapore. Then we go to round 17, Austin, Texas. They come back to North America, the US Grand Prix in Austin. Then down to Mexico November 1st for round number 18, round 19, they go to Brazil on November 8th, and then round 20, November 19th to the 21st, Viva Las Vegas. Okay, David, get your passport. Passport out.
[36:14] David Gould: Yeah.
[36:15] Chuck Hayes: And just let's pick three of your favorites here. On which.
[36:19] David Gould: Well, you've already mentioned two.
[36:20] Chuck Hayes: Well, tell everyone out there, there. Why? Because I'm interested to get your feedback in regards to not only the local, but also the racing and the possibilities.
[36:30] David Gould: Yes. Well, Silverstone, you know, Great Britain, I think, is the headquarters for F1. So that always. And, and the fact that the British have a really long standing history with this, the British and, and the Italians. So, you know, Monza and, and Great Britain are two definitely big Races. Of course you and I have our favorite in Vegas. But other than that, I think I'm looking through this thing. I think, you know, I think it's just got to be those two in Vegas right now because then they go to the Middle east, which is great, but the Middle east is a whole different ball game out there. Maybe. You know what I think? Mexico. I forgot about Mexico because that's the one where they, they, they drive through the stadium. It is. That is a. And I think that they have like the most fans at a race. It's almost half a million people to watch the damn race. And you know what? I'd love to see Checo win, man. I'd love to see Checo do it.
[37:34] Chuck Hayes: As long as he's in the top 10. I think Mexico would be.
[37:37] David Gould: I know it's a tall order.
[37:38] Chuck Hayes: Words of Vin Scully, wave your sombrero. You know, one of those numbers. As we talk about this, you know, I, for whatever purpose and I, and I liked what I saw in Spain, but I, I guess, I guess I'm a traditionalist and I like the uniqueness of Vegas and the track there and how it goes. And then Baku with the old castles and you're going through those really tight corners. I think that's really spectacular. And then another plug for F1 the movie. I want to say that you know Apple TV's coverage and the way that you can go on demand and look at the interviews, you can look at the race in a 30 minute window. If your time is a little bit tighter, you're not watching it live, which of course you would be up at 6:00am David, I know watching that live as you go, we're gonna have that opportunity as the, as the schedule changes a little bit. But that storyline and what's going on as we dive into this, I would say right now, in the past if you was Max Verstappen at the top of the standings with 156 points, I'm like, oh, he's good for three or four more. I really don't know about Kimmy right now in regards to being able to stay literally in the pole position and go the distance. There just seems to be too many little issues that are happening to other people that maybe this was the start with the mechanical failure for him.
[39:01] David Gould: Yeah, it, it could be. And also the start of demonstrating his inexperience. Now I'm not taking anything against away from the guy. No disrespect, he, he is driven like a monster. But again, he's not experienced. And he. He has not experienced defeat and mistakes and not to the degree that some of these other drivers have. You don't see the kind of stuff that Kimmy does out of Max. Now, Max hasn't been performing overall as well, but that could be the car. Who knows? But you just don't see that. You just don't see Max slipping up like that. And that's the experience difference.
[39:46] Chuck Hayes: This has been Chuck Hayes with David Gould. We're wrapping it up this weekend. Love it. We love talking Formula One. Join us next week, same time, same channel, as we get ready to preview the Grand Prix of Austria in Spielberg. This has been Chuck Hayes with David Gould. Have a great week.