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Light a candle and find your inner goddess with us.
Co-hosts Danielle Schleese and Briana Donaldson want to break the taboo of women’s health and wellbeing. From intimacy to parenting, women are constantly shamed for their inability to measure up to standards they never had a say in setting. On Honey Toast, these subjects find their home among incense, deep-dive conversations, and two best friends. From journal challenges to goddess calls, Briana and Danielle are always finding new ways to help you embrace your natural beauty — inside and out.
Hey, everyone. Welcome to today's episode. I'm Brie. This is Danielle. And today, we will be discussing health and wellness from a very holistic standpoint through releasing trauma and a few different avenues.
Briana Miller:I think we're gonna go past the buzzword of health and wellness a little
Danielle Schleese:bit more today and kind of analyzing what that means and figuring out a little bit more of a sustainable approach and kind of identifying what it means to go into a more personal level of what health and wellness is. Because I don't know about you, but there's definitely been times where I've, like, seen a health fad or some type of trend that you kinda wanna stay aligned with and you really, like, are tracking things and really identifying what the line is between, like, creating a sustainable system for yourself. So if you're somebody who really is into those type of topics, but also is like me, an a type personality who likes to tick off achievements or accomplishments when it comes to those health and realm spaces.
Briana Miller:Someone like me who is maybe more of a b type personality Yes. And still is extremely into health and wellness, but integrate it into your life in a very approachable way.
Danielle Schleese:Yeah. Yeah. Also for you. Yeah. So let's get into it and just discuss this kind of topic and, see what comes up from it.
Danielle Schleese:So thanks for joining us today.
Briana Miller:I think we should just,
Danielle Schleese:like, set the tone that neither you or I are clearly professionals when it
Briana Miller:comes to health and wellness space. Definitely not experts in any of the things that we are about to talk about.
Danielle Schleese:And that's why we wanna bring on professionals in their future that will be able to, like, really deepen their knowledge into this.
Briana Miller:And, also, it's why we wanna talk about it. Yeah. Because you don't have to be an expert or a professional to discuss topics that are extremely relevant. Yeah. Like, it's it's okay to talk about trauma and healing and wellness and all the things that and all the the learnings that you've acquired over your time if this is the area of life that you're interested in Yeah.
Briana Miller:Without being a professional. Totally. It's okay to talk about it and, like, spitball ideas back and forth. And so that is that that is the foreword to this episode. I agree.
Danielle Schleese:I agree. Think this is like although it is such a saturated market, is some it is a market that, like, affects all of us individually and collectively because I I actually saw this reel that was, like, new trends and focus in the world are hotels that emphasize self care and wellness retreats. And these are the things that people are starting to invest in, our longevity and lifestyle and wellness and personal care and lifestyle care. So there's these amazing hotels and retreats, which I would love to go to one day, which allow you to integrate cold plunges, saunas, really healthy eating rather than like the all you can eat continental breakfast Right. Which are included in like 90% of the hotels that you travel through these days.
Danielle Schleese:So it's such an interesting space, but also I think one that appeals to the masses because aside from a lot of the things we were talking about, like extending our youthfulness and beauty and all these societal beauty pressures. There's, like, an actual genuine interest in extending our lives to Yeah. To and yeah. To enjoy our families and our children and our experiences more like immortality, really. And also just like this internal well-being of life, you know, like Yeah.
Briana Miller:Genuine deep joy, happiness, fulfillment, all those things. But I what I have always found so so I don't know if funny is the right word, but such a paradox within this realm is that I feel as though everyone is always seeking for some sort of external solution to the problem. Totally. Yep. So like, oh, you know, if I just for example, we put collagen in our coffee.
Briana Miller:If I just drink collagen in my coffee every day, then it will help me get the protein for the day, which means will give me the muscles that I need and give me the body that I want. If I just, you know, get this one facial treatment every week or once a month, then I will have the perfect skin that I want.
Danielle Schleese:Yeah. It's keeping up with, like, trends that are happening in Right. In culture and stuff. It's like, oh, I want that because it's gonna make my but also, it is, like, miserable to be sick. I feel like when you have kids and toddlers, you're always sick.
Danielle Schleese:You're always like kinda catchy cold, knock on wood. We've been doing really well since we've been together. I'm always like, oh my god. Is that a sniffle I hear or a cough I hear? And I get a little bit nervous.
Briana Miller:I just load my kids up with those homeopathic remedies.
Danielle Schleese:Oh, yeah. Hear a sniffle, I'm like,
Briana Miller:put this under your tongue.
Danielle Schleese:But you know what's so interesting too is a big shift for me this past year comparatively to last year because I was, like, probably more ill in my entire life combined last year than I was ever. And it was because, a, I think I was pregnant last year. So naturally, you're You think you're pregnant last was year? Because think I was pregnant last year, my immune system was, like, automatically low. Right.
Danielle Schleese:And then b, I think it was because I mean, your your hormones and everything is, like, changing so much. Right? So I had mono last year, plus I was pregnant, plus I was living in the this horrible winter in a basement of this house temporarily while my other house was being worked on. So it was just, not an ideal living situation for me, and I naturally don't do well in cold weather. So, like, all of these kind of components added up to me not feeling well and doing well.
Danielle Schleese:And it was just like miserable for me at that point. So just being sick was something that I always want to avoid and I'm fearful of. And then so you're trying to do all these health remedies, all these supplements, all these vitamins, all these lifestyle changes to avoid that. But it's so interesting because in the past, when I would feel like I would start to get ill, you know, you have those telltale signs where you're like, your throat gets sore, your body gets a bit achy. But I would almost like push through those things, like because I actually heard Arnold Schwarzenegger's audiobook where he's like, I don't have time to think about being sick, so I'm never sick.
Danielle Schleese:So I'm like, I don't have time to think about sick, so I'm never sick. And that backfired and has always backfired on me so much to the point where you're just like eventually to the point where you're like that quote where it's like you have to rest or your body will force you to rest. Yep. So I used to push myself through these phases until I would have to rest. Right.
Danielle Schleese:Whereas this year, I actually went into this past season being like, I will not get sick this year because what I found is that as soon as my body starts to give me those signals of, like, a dry throat or feeling a little bit off, immediately, I rest. And I give myself that time and that space to just do nothing. And within twelve to twenty four hours, it starts to turn around. Mhmm. But it's so interesting because this kinda ties into our last episode topic of, like, femininity and allowing yourself to be a little bit slower and intentional with your
Briana Miller:And softer.
Danielle Schleese:Days and your time and softer with yourself rather than being like, I have to be productive. I have to show up. That's how I feel like kind of with health and wellness. And I think that that's what's been really successful for me this time around is really catching and being aware of those signs and signals that something's off Mhmm. And resting and allowing myself to rest without feeling guilty.
Danielle Schleese:Following your intuition perhaps. Following my intuition. And even though it's, like, not ideal in my day because I love, as we talked about last episode, to be super productive and and efficient in my time, especially when you have young kids. I have to prioritize this time to rest, And it's very difficult for me to do so. But anyway, it was just kind of like a long tangent on the differences of
Briana Miller:Tapping into what what we need when our bodies are telling us to heal, which I think is actually such a great indicator.
Danielle Schleese:And I
Briana Miller:think that that's such a gift that we have as humans is that your body will speak to you. Yes. Your body will speak to you. So whether it's, oh, like my hair just doesn't grow or I'm always having these breakouts
Danielle Schleese:with my skin. My skin is breaking out.
Briana Miller:Or, you know, like, I have really short eyelashes. I don't know. You know, I just can't random. Lose But it's true. Like, oh, like, I always have bad breath.
Danielle Schleese:Yeah.
Briana Miller:Yeah. You can't lose these last 10
Danielle Schleese:It's a book. It's telling
Briana Miller:Yeah. There any single thing Yeah. I believe that your body speaks to you because anything it's as old as the saying goes, you are what you eat.
Danielle Schleese:It's true.
Briana Miller:And I feel like that same sort of idea is applicable to so many things. Like, you are what you think. Yeah. You are what you feel.
Danielle Schleese:Mhmm.
Briana Miller:You are what you wear. You are what you do. Like, you are what you encompass in your life in all facets of the of of that.
Danielle Schleese:Oh my god.
Briana Miller:So Yeah. Whether it be the types of materials you put on your skin, the food that you put in your body, the people you interact with, the conversations you have, the media that you're constantly flooding into your mind So sure. Your brain and your eyes, the whatever it may be, like, that is who you will become. And so I think that typically and generally speaking, a lot of this wellness industry that we see, the saturated market that you that you touched upon is so much revolved around this, like, physical aspect of wellness and health. And I have discovered over my own personal healing journey and my own years of experience is that it's so much more than that.
Briana Miller:And in fact, the the things that I focus my energy on that are beyond the physical are the things that are actually healing me the most. And the energetic components of life, such as the components that make up who I am as a person, are going to alter and affect my healing journey so much more ex so much more exponentially than any other physical modality I believe could possibly do. So true. You know, one of the things that
Danielle Schleese:you said was something that's new for me personally, but I'm, like, not really great at. We actually just talked about it earlier this evening, which was, like, the clothes. Right. But we were just saying, like, the the fat literally, the fabrics you're wearing against your skin all day every day. And, I mean, there's also what's what's it called where it's like greenwashing?
Danielle Schleese:No. Not greenwashing. Mhmm. Where it's oh, fear monger fear mongering. Right?
Danielle Schleese:Where I follow this one account where it's like, this is toxic, and this is toxic. And I see these parodies of somebody being like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna cook a chicken or I'm gonna make eggs in the morning for breakfast. So he like grabs his pan. And he's like, I'm just gonna grab my pan. And he turned it on and heat it up.
Danielle Schleese:And he's like, oh, but this pan has Teflon on it. It's gonna give me cancer and it's gonna kill me long term. Okay. And then he grabs the egg, it's like, this egg is not pasture raised. It's fed with corn and soy.
Danielle Schleese:Right. Right. And then he cracks the egg. He's like, oh, the egg is now having carcinogens and what and so like one thing one idea trails into the other where it's like literally everything in this world is almost like Intoxicating you. Intoxicating so far Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:From how our ancestors have lived. So actually, for me, the one thing that always gets me in, like, the health care world in terms of, like, supplements, skincare, marketing Wellness. Wellness Yeah. Is actually ancestral biohacking. Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:And that's so interesting because I feel like that's kind of the topic that we're touching upon today, which is like this wellness. Yep. Forget what we what we even said, like the wellness fad or like the wellness myth Yeah. Where it it ex it kind of like puts fear into people that like, oh, you're gonna give yourself cancer. But for my past, it's only been, like, makeup and stuff.
Danielle Schleese:Right? So it's like, I agree. Like, it's even though it's such small components of toxins that it really doesn't make a difference. But when you put that on every day, all day consistently on top of your deodorant, that's putting aluminum where your lymph nodes is and your glands into your bloodstream on top of your clothes, on top of your Diet. Diet, your water, like everything, all day, every day.
Danielle Schleese:How
Briana Miller:about this? There's no escape. Your thoughts and your thoughts. Like, we are literally living in a world that every time first of all, we're addicted to screens. Yeah.
Briana Miller:And if you listen to this and you think to yourself, I'm not addicted to screens. Well, guess what? You're listening to this shit on some kind of a screen. Something. Something that has a screen
Danielle Schleese:attached the screen, you're listening to the screen.
Briana Miller:Yeah. Right? Like But it's almost inevitable. Right?
Danielle Schleese:Like, it's the only
Briana Miller:It's the industry we that that's the world we live in. That's the world we live in.
Danielle Schleese:And we're all just fine. More integrated because of AI coming into, like, into such a part of our life. I and you, we are all just as
Briana Miller:on screens as as much as the other person. I'm not I'm not
Danielle Schleese:judging anyone
Briana Miller:by making that comment.
Danielle Schleese:Who don't, I'm like, how? Who? How? No. There there are a lot of well, I don't
Briana Miller:know a
Danielle Schleese:lot, but there are some parents who use, ironically, social media to share their lifestyle, which does not include social media or screens, but maybe to inspire other people that are like, hey. This is the life that's possible. Right.
Briana Miller:But, like The people that are filming every part of their life to put on social media to say that they don't use social media. Yeah. That does not make sense. That does not add up. You have a tripod hanging around your house 24 of the day And
Danielle Schleese:you're like, hey.
Briana Miller:Let me catch b roll clips to put it out on the Internet to say, but I don't use social media, and we're a screen free family. Well, you're obviously not because you have a fucking screen following you around on a tripod all day long to show us that you're
Danielle Schleese:not on a fucking screen. That's so true. That's like What are talking about? The gaze. Right?
Danielle Schleese:Like What are you talking about? External gaze looking into some people's lives and they're like, wow, they live this idealistic life where they're so natural, so in tune. It's so funny because one of the influencers that I follow, I'm like, she doesn't even have a TV. And I'm like, oh my god. Here she is recording every square inch of her life.
Briana Miller:Right. I know you're talking about. I'm not gonna say it.
Danielle Schleese:Curating every angle, every shot.
Briana Miller:Because she holds massive ex massively expensive retreats in the middle of freaking nowhere. Yeah. And you
Danielle Schleese:have to pay
Briana Miller:a bajillion dollars to go to her retreats for
Danielle Schleese:this To get back in tune with
Briana Miller:not Which listen.
Danielle Schleese:But that's how how would you market it
Briana Miller:these days?
Danielle Schleese:How else would you market it? And I think that she's
Briana Miller:a gifted individual. So I'm not
Danielle Schleese:gonna share it the only way. Yeah.
Briana Miller:But what I'm saying is it is inevitable. Unless you are literally somebody that lives off of the grid Yeah. Has zero social media, has zero Wi Fi, has zero Internet, has zero phone, literally nothing
Danielle Schleese:Mhmm.
Briana Miller:You're part of it. You are. Now there's levels to that. Just like everything else in life, there's a spectrum to to it all. However, what I think the biggest misconception is is that everyone is out to sell you something.
Briana Miller:Everyone is out to sell you a product or a course
Danielle Schleese:so true.
Briana Miller:Or a method or a body treatment or a session or something that's going to heal you. Like, you if you take this, you're gonna be healed. If you do this course, you're gonna be healed. It's like promising end results. Always.
Briana Miller:But what I have learned in my own journey and what I genuinely believe is that the only way I'm not a pro I'm just gonna preface this next statement, but I am not a professional. I cannot heal you. Okay? I am not a doctor.
Danielle Schleese:I love that we preface this every episode. We're, just letting you know we're not We're not here.
Briana Miller:We're not doctors. But what I have learned, I am a Reiki master. I have done my Reiki mastership level one, two, and three twice through and through. And what I have come to realize is that the greatest gift that we can give ourselves, I believe, in terms of healing is our energy. Oh my god.
Briana Miller:Yes. If you look I mean, there how many studies are done? Look at the guy who did study the the Japanese scientist that did the study on the on the love on the sorry. On the water molecule. He put, two jugs of water in his fridge.
Briana Miller:And one of the glass jugs, he put a giant sticky note on the front and wrote the word love. Mhmm. And on the other one, he wrote the word hate. And every single morning, he would open his fridge, get his breakfast, get his lunch, get his dinner, cook his meals. He never touched either of those jugs of water.
Briana Miller:He never spoke to them. Nothing. They just sat in his fridge. And after I think it was a month. I don't know.
Briana Miller:I'd have to go back and look at the study. I can't I cannot remember. Don't quote me on this. But after a certain period of time, he analyzed the h two o molecules that came from either of those drugs prior to beginning the this experiment and and after. And it was astonishing the difference in these molecules.
Briana Miller:And the only reason that these molecules from the love jug and from the hate jug changed one the the the molecules under the microscope from the jug that was labeled love were, like, perfect. They looked like these perfect little snowflake molecules that were so symmetrical and and stunning. And you looked under the microscope out of at a molecule of water from the jug of hate, and it was so hectic looking and sporadic and and dysfunctional and angry. Like, was literally like. And you just think if that's what can happen to a molecule of water when you say nothing to it, do nothing to it, don't touch it, don't drink it,
Danielle Schleese:don't say I hate you or anything?
Briana Miller:Nothing. He just so every time he looked at it He felt He felt something.
Danielle Schleese:Okay.
Briana Miller:Because he saw the word hate. Oh, okay. Okay. Time he looked at the jug, he felt the word love.
Danielle Schleese:Well, you know, that's the thing too. Like, words actually are energetic Of course. Frequencies. Of course. So the words you speak, which there's another episode on its own.
Danielle Schleese:Right? Like Yeah. The power of words. Even like you were saying water, I thought you were gonna go into the direction of how water holds memory.
Briana Miller:Which it does. Because it does. Just you just go and look about that. So just think the energy emitting off of his body just by simply looking at the word.
Danielle Schleese:Well, you can feel like when you're around somebody who For sure. Doesn't have to say anything, but they give off this, like, horrible Vibe. Vibe and energy. And we've all been around somebody that you can relate to that's you know what what I mean when I say this. Good or bad?
Danielle Schleese:That you just you almost change because you're affected by it. But it's like it's literally like grade don't I even know grades teach this these days, but like science. Right? Where it's like the electrons are positive and negative. It's it's what attracts and what deters.
Danielle Schleese:Yep. And when you break it down on a molecular level, health and wellness really breaks down to becoming Energy. Very energetic intuitive science. So it's like it's not really about following a one formula fits all. And I mean, I am a victim to and my fiancee and like my life and my world is just all about, like, optimization and effectiveness and health and wellness because we wanna live the best lives.
Danielle Schleese:But there are things
Briana Miller:you can do for sure. Are. And so it's not just to say that energy is the only thing that's going to heal you. No. Because that is that is I I think that that is very incorrect.
Briana Miller:But it's a it's a matter of saying, okay. I'm gonna enter this new process of healing. Let's say it's Reiki. Let's say it's a new diet. Let's say it's going to the gym.
Briana Miller:Let's say
Danielle Schleese:it's It's a type of therapy. So it's like
Briana Miller:a medicine. Let's say it's whatever. Myofascial release, what breath work, cold plunging It
Danielle Schleese:falls between those quadrants. Right?
Briana Miller:Those four quadrants. Let's so the four quadrants of healing that we would say exist are physical, mental, spiritual And emotional. And emotional. Yeah. So some degree of healing is gonna fall under one of those categories.
Briana Miller:I think what I believe is that your energy has to be in the right space in order to receive the healing to its maximum capacity no matter what realm of those four quadrants you're in. And so if you can energetically believe, like manifestation, honestly.
Danielle Schleese:I was just gonna say, I'm like, it is attuning to the frequency of what you are asking to receive Because it even though you're like, it's not just energy, but at the same time, at the base level, it is just do the work. There you have to do the work. Still gonna help to change to get to that frequency. It's like tuning to a radio. You have to change the knob in order to match the frequency of what you're looking to receive the information So like your body, you're tuning your body and your practices and your your mind, your your spirit, your your mental
Briana Miller:In whatever state of being able to receive the healing Yes. That that modality has to offer.
Danielle Schleese:I think that goes for, like, beyond healing, like abundance. Oh, absolutely. Like you just said, manifestation. It goes for, like, every area and any area of your life, really, which is so fascinating because it's also it plays with, like, the power of, like, unseen knowledge too because it's not something that's promised. So, I mean, we both know a lot of people in our lives, whether it's, our own experience personally or people close to us that are on a healing path or on a healing journey to get to the best versions of themselves.
Danielle Schleese:Because you know when you feel good, you know when there's something off. And if there's something that's off and there's no medical journal or answer for that, that's scary because there's like humans don't like the path of uncertainty. We like answers. We like knowledge. So when we are in a a path and a phase of, like, not knowing what that answer is, it it evokes a lot of fear Mhmm.
Danielle Schleese:Within ourselves because it's like,
Briana Miller:could this lead to something worse? Could it lead to something painful, which is the ultimate question of what is in the unknown when I jump off the ledge? Always. Always. For sure.
Briana Miller:But, I mean, I think that the first the first step to healing is awareness.
Danielle Schleese:Mhmm.
Briana Miller:The first step to healing is saying to yourself and looking at yourself saying, there's something that I want to address within me that I want to work on healing. Mhmm. Whether that's mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually, whatever it may be, that's the first step. No matter what. You have to have the awareness around it and and address the fact that you want to do something And change.
Briana Miller:To change it. Yeah. Yes. And then second to that, I would say is having the energy and output and and work ethic to do so. You know, I have seen time and time again people say, oh, you know, like, I'm not feeling that great mentally, physically, whatever it is.
Briana Miller:So I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna go get a massage. That should help. And then you go get a massage and you come home and you're like, it didn't really help. And then you give up. And it's like, well, that's not, like, that's not how life works.
Briana Miller:You can't just give up after trying one single thing. Like, you you have to be so committed to yourself and so committed to your journey that you're willing to open yourself, be vulnerable, and explore whatever it takes in order to unearth the parts of you that must be liberated in order to elevate to the next level.
Danielle Schleese:Okay. So what's, like, what's one thing for you personally that that feels like very deeply nourishing, like, when it
Briana Miller:comes to your health and your wellness? I mean, so I for me personally, pretty much every morning lately, I put on a meditation. Even if it's four minutes, six minutes, ten minutes, like, every single morning, I mean, you know my daughter gets up and out of bed and comes and wakes you up. Oh, I know. And as soon as she
Danielle Schleese:leaves Do have new alarm clock?
Briana Miller:Yeah. As soon as she leaves that room, I go onto my phone. I go on my app that I use for meditation, and I do some type of morning guided meditation. And for me, that is a very small part of I don't know if it's healing, but it's setting myself up to hopefully not feel like I have to heal something from that day, I guess. But I would also say that the most and and this maybe isn't the question you asked, but the most profound healing that I have allowed myself to be vulnerable to is breath work.
Briana Miller:The two times that I have fully immersed myself and dove into and released myself to the extreme depths that breath work sessions can give you
Danielle Schleese:Mhmm.
Briana Miller:My life has changed dramatically. Genetically, my cells, my body, my mind, everything. It's it's it's completely changed. And so but I but that's just my experience. I think that healing is different for everyone.
Briana Miller:And I think that what's most important is that we have compassion with ourselves And we can look at ourselves every day and say, it's okay that you're not where you need want to be right now, but I love myself enough to take steps to explore new opportunities and new avenues to get to where I wanna be. And I have enough compassion for myself and enough understanding of myself that I'm willing to learn. I'm willing to accept new possibilities. I'm willing to explore new
Danielle Schleese:But, yeah, I feel like that train of thought that you just had, it's like it's so aware of those things where we live in such a toxic world. For sure. I think people are becoming more aware of it. It's Mhmm. It's definitely becoming like a topic of conversation, like toxic living.
Danielle Schleese:And for me, in my in my past choices, like with the makeup and stuff, swaps to like more conscious makeup choices. Right. It's just like such a small channel and component, but it goes in everyday life and all the other areas as well. Like, there's so much detoxing that needs to be done that's so far removed from how humans have existed Total for so reprogramming. A complete reprogramming on a cultural level.
Danielle Schleese:Right? Yeah. So I think like one of the ways that we can start to make a shift into becoming because this is exactly what why we're doing what we're doing, why we're talking about the things we want to talk about is to achieve and reach that level of the most authentic version of ourselves.
Briana Miller:Mhmm.
Danielle Schleese:To feel in order to feel the the most fulfilled within ourselves and the most joy within our lives. And I don't feel like that's always like a path that's really accentuated or clearly laid out for people. So Or accepted. Or really accepted because when you look at like big pharma and again, the beauty industry, they want you to fear things like getting sick, aging so they can sell you things like eye wrinkle creams, antiaging, prescriptions, whatever. Apply that to every component of your life, fast fashion so you can keep up with the trends.
Danielle Schleese:Like, if you take a step back and look at all of these areas of life, not only is it controlled by fear, but it's all about the health and well-being of the experience of your life. Yeah. So I think the number one of the things we can do today in order to make a change is to detox. Yes. And it starts by small simple changes because when you take a look, it's like it's quite overwhelming even though I'm very passionate about natural skincare and health care and stuff.
Danielle Schleese:I'm like, I'm still wearing clothes that have toxins in them, but it's like
Briana Miller:so difficult. Let's even start in something more simple,
Danielle Schleese:a little bit more approachable. Yeah. Like,
Briana Miller:when go go home, sit down, close your eyes, and ask yourself, is what I watch on a screen Oh
Danielle Schleese:my god. It's another thing.
Briana Miller:Whether it be social media, TV Yeah. Whatever it may be, is what I am watching on a screen for my best good. Like, is it promoting and supporting me to be my most amazing, authentic, loving, happy, peaceful, joyful self.
Danielle Schleese:But you know what's so interesting? It's like even myself who can ask those questions, and I do sometimes
Briana Miller:Mhmm.
Danielle Schleese:I do catch myself sometimes. Like, I have fifteen minutes. I'm breastfeeding. I'm scrolling, and I'm like, I know that it is in my best self to spend this time doing a or b, which could be something like organizing my photos so I could put them in albums. This is my OCD A type, right?
Danielle Schleese:But putting them away to the side. Or I can just shut off my brain and mindlessly scroll. Probably 75 Why
Briana Miller:are those the only two options?
Danielle Schleese:I'm just saying, if I give my maybe that's just because the way psychologically I talk to my toddler. I'm like, or b, pick a choice. So I give myself those two options. So I'm like, okay. Do something that's like for the bettering of myself long term for my future self that I know that I'm gonna like, I don't have time to really sit down and do, but I can chip away at that I know long term I'm gonna appreciate, and that's for the well-being of my Right.
Danielle Schleese:Future so I can access photos and videos on the on an instant gonna happen to all those photos and videos in a hundred years? Hopefully, grandchildren oh, yeah. I mean, I looked I personally like to look at my great grandmother and grandmother, and the fact that there's photos and access to those archives, I'm like, I'm so grateful that I have those Yeah. Access so I can picture my family tree and where I came from. I'm like, maybe my children one day will like to be like, what did I look like when I was still bit?
Danielle Schleese:Go to the folder, blah, blah, blah, It's all organized, ready to go. But I'm like, I'm never gonna sit down and do that because it's taxing. So I'm like, okay, have fifteen minutes. I might as well just do that then. For sure.
Danielle Schleese:Or I could just shut off my brain because it's been a busy day. Yeah. I'm tired. I just wanna look at entertainment. Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:And like I was gonna say, I'm like 80% of the time, I'm gonna go to the entertainment Yeah. Side of things. Yeah. I'm just like, I don't even I just wanna feel joy and just joy in in like losing myself into just like
Briana Miller:Focus is dopamine. Dopamine. They're short dopamine Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:Hits whereas like sitting down and organizing takes discipline Effort. And energy. I know long term, it's going to benefit Right. Me. Right.
Danielle Schleese:Because I'm I'm picturing that I'm gonna live until like a 100. And then when I'm like 90 with you living in an old folks home
Briana Miller:Of course.
Danielle Schleese:Old folks home, mean like this beautiful garden Luxury. Luxury house with our children. Our grandchildren. Grandchildren. Great grandchildren.
Danielle Schleese:We're gonna be like, what do wanna do today, bruh? Let's look at our lives and It'll be there. Yeah. Like it'll be It's like I like to I always have this thing. You've probably heard me say it, always like, thanks, Pastanielle.
Danielle Schleese:Yeah. It's like small thoughtful things I can do for my future self that I look back and when it happens, I'm like, oh my god. I like filling the car up with gas. I'm like, oh, I love you. Thank you for doing that, Danielle, so I don't have to do that now in the rain.
Danielle Schleese:You know, it's like small acts you can do for your future self. That's kind of how I see, like, my approach to health and wellness today is I'm doing small helpful acts for myself so I can enjoy in the future, but trying to find the joy in those acts as well. Right. Right. But sometimes it's difficult to kind of cut through the thickness of the noise of just, like, quick dopamine, satisfy yourself because I can.
Danielle Schleese:I can easily like, were talking about it last night, I can easily just scroll on social media and be happy. And then I'll be like, oh my god. Here goes two hours, and then my night's over. Then you
Briana Miller:feel like shit. And I also think that it's, like, very much a instant gratification world that we live in. Mhmm. I think that we currently live in a world where if you're not getting results pretty much instantaneously, then it's a lost cause. And I think that that is the opposite of what true healing is.
Briana Miller:Hello.
Danielle Schleese:I just ordered a coffee, and it came within ten minutes. Exactly. A coffee cup. Exactly. What world do we live in?
Danielle Schleese:Exactly. Was like, wow. What else can I order? And it's addictive. Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:Because I'm like, instant, instant, I need diapers, I need wipes, this, this, this. And I don't have to physically go into the store. Right.
Briana Miller:So interesting. Right. But, you know, what are the long lasting effects on your brain and your and your ability to self heal and your ability to self regulate and your ability to, you know, understand. And we wonder why so many people have, you know, mental illness and OCD and ADHD and ADD and and on the spectrum and are medicated for a variety of different reasons. Well, what are we doing to support self sufficiency?
Briana Miller:What are
Danielle Schleese:We don't want self sufficiency. We don't. Want dependence. No. We.
Danielle Schleese:Not we. Well, not we, but I meant society. Well, yeah. There's all this freaking talk.
Briana Miller:What are we doing to really, as a culture, support the deep healing that is necessary in order to eradicate the things that are causing us the deepest harm.
Danielle Schleese:I'm gonna tell you, it's not supported unless it's like an individual influencer or person who a lot of people socially connect to, and that's why they are popular on social media because a lot of people are relating to these thoughts and wanting that for themselves. Because the I don't know if it's just my feed and my algorithm, but the amount of things that I'm seeing like the twenty twenty five twenty twenty five blackout, the great blackout. And I'm like, oh my god. Gotta learn how to be self sufficient because where I live, we've already had, like, five, six power outages in the last five months. Mhmm.
Danielle Schleese:And the last one since I've been here has been, like, six or seven days long because of an ice storm. And what would we do? Like, imagine the people there who have no support systems, no cars, no snowplows, no generators, no propane, no nothing. You're completely dependent on the system, completely dependent. So why would we not have a I mean, now we're starting to get into propaganda, but why would we not have like a cyber attack where we're completely dependent on a system that can provide us a solution and we're going to adhere that to that solution, to that solution only so that we can find peace within our lifestyle again.
Danielle Schleese:So it's like, society doesn't want us to be self sufficient. Society and culture doesn't want us to know these To heal. To heal because they want
Briana Miller:to keep us sick. Like On the abs.
Danielle Schleese:Oh my god. We can go so much, like, into the politics of everything, like, right, of health and wellness. Nope. Jobs, whatever, but we're not going to. Just overview umbrella.
Danielle Schleese:Right? So very passionate about these things Yeah.
Briana Miller:Because Yeah. It's directly related to. It's so true. I feel like we do not live in
Danielle Schleese:a society that
Briana Miller:supports the the culture of true deep healing in a way that is not reliant, like totally a totally self sufficient process to the healing. And whether that's energetically, physically, whatever whatever it may be. I think that there are so many beautiful, phenomenal, amazing holistic avenues that are coming to light more and more every day that we should feel so grateful to take advantage of and utilize and immerse ourselves into. But unless we are truly energetically prepared to surrender to the healing that is to come our way, it will it will never really serve its purpose. And I think that above all else, we must come together as a community of people, of human beings.
Briana Miller:Like, human connection is what we need the most. And, you know, you're you made this comment about the the great blackout and and what will we do. Well, if we were living in a community based society where neighbors were truly supporting neighbors and we were all there for each other, it wouldn't be so scary. True. Because we would all be there to support one another in our healing process, in our journey, in in any whatever that supportive role looks like for one another, I believe that we would show up.
Briana Miller:And so how can we move forward truly in our world as women and as as people with the intention to heal ourselves and others? And I think that that's something that we should be asking ourselves every day when we wake up and enter the world is what is my who who am I as the best version of myself? What is my greatest good? And how can I reflect the best version of my healed self and to help others heal in whatever way that they need and support that system, that community? I a 100% agree with that.
Briana Miller:And I think, personally, based on,
Danielle Schleese:an anecdote that I shared early on in this episode is a key takeaway into that topic and thought process would be, like, really approaching your own individual wellness and journey as a very individual Unique experience. Unique, slow, intuitive process. Yeah. And it's not gonna be the same for everybody. Sure.
Danielle Schleese:There are things that are very common, like a cold, whatever. You know?
Briana Miller:Cold plunging. But even
Danielle Schleese:like you know, when every anything happens to me that's, like, out of the normal flu fever, cold Yeah. Immediately I go to Louise Hay, heal yourself or heal Because your I truly feel like we were talking about earlier the spectrum, like those quadrants of spiritual, mental, physical, emotional. It's if it's one thing, it's correlated to something else. Yeah. Like, it's you're not just physically ill.
Danielle Schleese:If you're physically ill, there's something emotional, mental, and spiritual Or energetically. Yeah. All connected. Right? I feel like by kind of taking a step back and analyzing why and what's going on on that personal level scale, you'll find more answers within yourself easier than you think.
Danielle Schleese:Like, rather than, like, jumping to Advil when you have a headache, maybe you need to hydrate. Maybe you need to take more electrolytes. Maybe you need to slow down and sit down. Maybe you just instead of putting productivity Productivity. Productivity.
Danielle Schleese:In as your priority. You know? Maybe this is your body giving you a signal Mhmm. That you need to drink more water or hydrate yourself. I just love that card game.
Danielle Schleese:Signals. It's so funny. I don't know. I had card game the other day.
Briana Miller:Whatever. Away.
Danielle Schleese:But it's Pickle. It's applicable to this conversation too. It is. So I think that that is a huge step forward anybody could take. And I you know what?
Danielle Schleese:It's so funny because, like, for something as simple as a headache for myself, even to this day, I'm like, I wanna take a napal to get rid of it so I can continue on with my day. But I'm like, I need to pause, find a way to pause or drink more water or relax my face muscles or massage my jaw, figure out what's connected.
Briana Miller:It's so I feel very grateful. I grew up in a household that was medication free. What? Totally. You never had an Advil?
Briana Miller:Not until I was in in university. What?
Danielle Schleese:Yeah. Wow. Totally. I learned something new about you every day.
Briana Miller:Yeah. Mom, like, went no. Not until I was in university did I ever take Tylenol after you
Danielle Schleese:had the flu or fever?
Briana Miller:My mom would be like, here's a hot cup of water with tea with lemon and honey and echinacea drops in it and, And, like, fresh squeezed orange juice with echinacea and garlic grated into it. Yeah. I love that. My mom was like the holistic master. Wow.
Danielle Schleese:Well, the one thing I have to say too is when I had the fever. The fever came around. The fever. My parents, my mom would always put a sink full of ice cubes with towels or bathtub and she would wrap our legs. There was a towel for the Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:The shin, the thigh, the thigh, the shin, the stomach And the forehead? And the stomach was always last because I was always the sensitive one. Yeah. The forehead, the arms, arms. And she would do that like every three hours until the fever broke.
Danielle Schleese:Yeah. And then if it was unbearable, a Tylenol or whatever. But I don't really remember the the medicine being prominent. It was that's the thing. Like, until pharmaceutics pharmaceutics?
Danielle Schleese:Pharmaceutical industry and, like, industrial revolution was happening, like, you would pass down ancestral knowledge and Right. Familial knowledge and cultural knowledge and and and drive.
Briana Miller:Kids get sick?
Danielle Schleese:It's so easy to pop up Tylenol is
Briana Miller:not and let me tell you, the nights are hard. If you're not using Tylenol when you have a young child and they're sick, the nights are fucking hard.
Danielle Schleese:A friend of ours told us they never ever used Tylenol for their kids, and they seem like the type of family that would literally use Tylenol for their kids. And Gabe and I were like Did. What? No way. Because there has been times where it's like, we gotta sleep so we can show up to take care of Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:You. So and it's just like it's a battle because it's like even your family doctor is like, give them Tylenol. Them also
Briana Miller:like Sometimes you look at your kid and you feel guilty. You're like, oh my gosh. You're in so much pain and discomfort. And I
Danielle Schleese:want to give you sadness.
Briana Miller:Relief. But I have not given either of my children Tylenol, Motrin, Advil anything. No. No. No.
Briana Miller:No. No. I have. But in Okay. Probably over a year now.
Briana Miller:Over a year and a half maybe. Well, you know what's so cool? And they've seen
Danielle Schleese:of people are a sharing ideas and concepts because Yeah. Same thing. I'm like, I would love to understand like, you know, the fever is your body literally is in the process of fighting the virus. Right. How can you assist the body?
Danielle Schleese:How can
Briana Miller:you build the immunity? Rest. Hydration, vinegar. If you're if you're interrupting the signals to the brain to fight it. That's another topic.
Briana Miller:Another season.
Danielle Schleese:Anyway, we should we should should wrap it We should wrap it up because this is just again, this is just Too
Briana Miller:many avenues to go. But here's the thing. Yeah. If you're interested in healing in a more holistic way, in some type of modality that does not reference the standardized healing methods, We have literally two, probably two full seasons of episodes written out with guests that are Yeah. Incredibly that are actually qualified and experts to talk about these things.
Briana Miller:We're just talking about our own experiences. We would love to hear from you. If there's a specific type of healing modality that you wanna hear about, whether it be breath work,
Danielle Schleese:you know, tapping, Reiki, sound bullying.
Briana Miller:It could be Sound healing.
Danielle Schleese:Well, again, because You tell you tell
Briana Miller:us because we have been doing so much research of our own over the years. We've experienced so many modalities of healing. We currently are are still, you know, going through different types of healing, but we wanna hear from you. What is it that you're interested in? What type of experts do you wanna hear from and and learn about?
Briana Miller:And we'd be happy to to provide that. To explore that without falling into the trap of that, if that makes sense. Of that being, like, the only thing. Yeah.
Danielle Schleese:Yeah. Of that being just like There's just another industry.
Briana Miller:Right? I wanna learn different avenues to be our best selves.
Danielle Schleese:That's all. Again, it all comes down to how can we experience and become our best selves and learn to work with the body and its signals and to function with those things.
Briana Miller:So be all encompassingly supportive to yourself.
Danielle Schleese:So thank you guys so much for watching and for joining us again, and we look forward to talking to you guys again next week. Please hit us up on Instagram at the honey toast podcast. We're on all major platforms, and this is a visual podcast as well. So if you wanna come hang with us and see what we look like, we would love to hear from you and let us know all those comments and all that stuff. So talk to you soon.
Briana Miller:Next week. Bye. Drizzle d honey bee out.