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Welcome to the Twist My Arm Podcast! We're here to twist your arm into something new!
Hello, everyone,
and welcome to another
episode of Quest Me.
My name is Josh, and of course,
I am your host.
And I'm coughing all over the place,
and I am excited to talk
about The Acolyte, Episode 5,
also known as Night.
Like I said, Twist My Arm.
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podcast now before we go
any farther I have to
introduce all the people
that are here with me so
I'm going to do it in one
fell swoop here we go we
got justin we got phil and
we got our lovely guest
jesse from the crusher
convo podcast thank you all
for joining me tonight
let's go around the room
justin how are you doing today
I am wonderful.
Been hiking and been hanging
out with the family,
and now I get the podcast.
All right.
Phil, how are you, sir?
I am doing really well.
I am just off of work for the night,
had some dinner,
and made drinks for y'all.
Yay!
But we'll get there in a minute.
Of course, and we will, always.
And Jesse,
thank you so much for coming and
hanging out and for
adjusting your schedule
because originally we had
planned on doing this tomorrow,
but now we're doing it tonight.
Only for you, Josh.
How have you been?
It's been a couple months now, I think,
right?
Yeah, something like that.
I mean, yeah, just been busy.
It's kind of like with Phil.
I was at work all day and
then came rushing home and
now I'm crossing the streams.
So on the dark side today.
Yeah.
By crossing the streams, of course,
Jessie means that she is a
full-blown Trekkie, Trekker,
Star Trekkian.
Yeah.
I'm a Trekkie.
I like to go by Trekkie,
but some people do go Trekker,
so that's fine.
Whatever floats their boat.
A Trekkie is a Star Trek fan.
A Trekker is someone who
insists that you call them a Trekkie.
There we go.
That's fair.
And, of course, thanks, everyone,
that's in the chat and
watching the stream right now.
We are on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram,
and TikTok.
So I'm trying to pay attention to everyone,
but there's a lot going on.
So thanks to Leslie and D-Man and,
of course,
Ro from Scarab Scuttlebutt
Podcast for joining us.
and a shout out to my
twitter friend leslie who
because I'm streaming this
on my twitter account right
now so she says hello hello
yeah it's good to see
everyone um it's good to be
back talking about star
wars and oh my god what an
episode we have to discuss
I had a gut feeling
remember I went with my gut yeah
i was just going with my gut
because last time when I
did the mandalorian with
you I picked up episode
three and I was like okay
which one should I go three
again should I do something
different and five five
felt good so I'm glad it
worked out but three was
good too so I would have
won either way yeah I would
say five is probably the
best one so far that's
right in the middle so you get the climax
Yeah.
I think that was her plan all along.
Yeah.
Before we get too far into it,
we always have a special
first segment and we like
to go to a place called...
It's a bar far away where
our lovely bartender, Phil,
likes to talk about the amazing,
ridiculous,
and also tasty drinks that
he's got going on.
So what are you mixing up over there today,
Phil?
Tonight,
because we were on a quick
turnaround time this week,
I found a recipe last night
for something called a knockout martini,
which is gin, dry vermouth, absinthe,
and creme de menthe.
And I thought, you know what?
I can make something like
that for a Star Wars
setting that's actually
appropriate to this episode.
So I present to you the stun blaster.
Oh, that's a perfect name.
Right?
Right?
So this is an ounce and a half of dry gin.
In this case, I used Lee Spirits dry gin.
They were a local distillery
and are unfortunately no
longer in operation.
So I actually just cracked
open my last bottle of
their plain dry gin for
this cocktail especially.
So ounce and a half of dry gin,
ounce and a half of dry vermouth,
in this case, Noily Pratt,
a quarter of an ounce of absinthe.
And I went with a quarter of
an ounce of green creme de
menthe versus the white
creme de menthe to actually
add to the spectacular
green color that you get from this.
Between the absinthe and the
creme de menthe, it is just...
stunningly green.
It's very green, yes.
And the knockout martini is
traditionally garnished with a bit,
like a star anise pod.
So the...
herb that gives the flavor
profile that licorice
profile flavor to absinthe
and similar liqueurs but I
opted just for a cocktail
cherry because it's a
pretty just gorgeous
contrast to the green and
it tastes really good so
yeah this is a stun blaster
remember to always drink responsibly
And, of course,
that recipe will be in the
show notes if you would
like to try it out at home.
Good Lord.
They're always just so intricate.
There's going to be a time
where I have ingredients
that I can actually have.
I'm just saying.
It's art.
I was a bartender for two
and a half years.
It is art.
I'm just a hobbyist.
I've never actually worked behind a bar.
It's so much fun.
The only time I've actually
ever been behind the bar is
during the couple of
competitions I've done.
So...
it's a lot of fun yeah that
was like the best time I
ever had I mean and cutting
I mean cutting people off
was not fun but you know
but uh the rest of it you
know yeah but yeah it is it
is quite tasty it is very
much a uh jelly bean uh
like a black jelly bean kind of flavor so
Of course,
thank you for bringing that again.
One of these days, I swear,
I am going to start making these drinks,
and I'm going to have to go
back seasons and check some old,
old drinks.
I have.
I still have the backlog.
I still have the backlog of
recipes for the Gorian's
Blog from Mandalorian.
Yeah, exactly.
So many ingredients, though.
Yeah, I know.
But I guess it's that thing,
once you have it, you have it.
Exactly.
And the home bar setup I
have is a process to
acquire the various ingredients.
Well, I just got that Tatooine dream.
The Tatooine dream.
The Tatooine dream.
Add the blue dolphin.
Ice water.
Yeah.
it's good though it worked
out so all right now that
we've gone to the bar far
away let's move on to
acolyte episode five
because holy cow there's a
lot a lot so um as per
usual I did write my own
synopsis because I like to
do that even though they
just get progressively worse and worse um
This episode, I called it,
Are You Not Entertained?
Because... Are you not entertained?
Man, the amount of people backtracking now,
like, Oh, sorry,
this episode was actually kind of cool.
The acolyte might be
actually kind of good.
Maybe I should just wait until it ends.
Like...
It's been fun to watch.
So in this action-packed
episode 5 of The Acolyte,
all of our favorite
characters are just taken away from us.
We haven't seen this type of
Jedi carnage since episode 3 and Order 66,
but I am here for it.
We have some questions answered,
but we also ask a few new
ones by the end of the episode.
Like, are we in Westeros right now?
um this episode was directed
by alex garcia lopez uh
written by core odonna
cameron squires and of
course leslie headland it
stars amanda stenberg long
lead jung jay and charlie
barnett um I haven't done
that yet so I figured I
should do that now I think
I'll through all the
writers and the directors and stuff um
But this episode, just right into it.
Just straight into the action.
Osho wakes up on the ground
and is just kind of looking
around and seeing everyone get destroyed.
This whole episode was just a fight.
This was just one giant fight scene.
And if it was in a movie,
like we've talked about
this whole season...
If this was just a movie,
then this would be the Act 2 climax,
basically, where we get the sweet action.
It's like the pod racing in Episode 1.
Or any big piece of action
in the middle of any movie.
This would be that piece.
So now we're going to get...
the finale right the last
three episodes are going to
be the third act where we
get to see you know all of
our questions answered and
from what I understand this
is only a one season series
so I'm assuming they're
going to wrap it all up
into hopefully a nice kind
of half bow or something
I'm sure they hope so
they're losing cast members
left and right here yeah um
so let's just get right
into it like rogue one
where everyone just dies
and that's it that's it
And then we get a prequel to it.
Honestly, that could be what happens.
Especially...
you know they brought ki
kiari mundi in and so he
thinks the sith have been
extinct for for a
millennium so if everyone
just dies then it still
holds true yeah exactly but
let's start with you jesse
what have been your
thoughts of the acolytes so
far and then how did you
feel after this episode
So it's been hit and miss for me.
I feel like like episode one,
I was actually kind of bored.
But then episode two, I got more excited.
I really enjoyed episode
three and that I dropped
episode four until the last five minutes.
And then we get into this episode.
So I've just been on a
roller coaster of like, like it.
I don't know.
Here we go.
The thing about this episode,
like you said, it was just action.
It was just a full-on fight.
And it was, like,
now I see where the budget went to.
It went to the choreography
and the special effects.
Everything was just perfect
with this fight scene.
I enjoyed it up until May and Osha.
And we can discuss that a
little bit later.
But everything else, like you were saying,
the surprises with Jackie and is it Yord?
Yord.
Yeah.
What about Pip?
Because she's like, I love you.
Yeah.
So there was just so much going on.
And I was very suss about that guy.
I can't remember his name.
We were just calling him Dark.
Chimera.
Chimera.
Yes.
But I was like, he's suss.
I don't know if he's one,
but there's something with him.
And so but the actor, hell of a good job,
because this is a complete
opposite of what he's been
playing these last, you know,
those four episodes.
So.
I think overall,
this was a really good climax to it.
And now I have no idea where
we're going with this.
We had so many theories at this point.
It's anyone's game.
We heard Kylo Ren's music
when he was there.
And there was... So there's
different theories about that.
There's the question about
him being a Sith.
I was thinking of like, was it...
Palpatine's master.
I can't remember his name.
I was like, is he going to show up?
Yeah.
I was all like, there's so many things.
I'm still thinking though
that the witches are still involved.
Oh yeah.
We need that episode.
Yeah.
I think for sure.
And we can talk more about
that in a minute, but yeah, it's just,
there's now there's just more,
more questions.
So did any of you watch the
good place episode?
I was just going to bring that up.
No, no.
Yeah, no,
because Manny Jacinto is just an
absolutely phenomenal actor.
And he is getting to show so
many different strengths,
especially like just in
this episode alone.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
I went live earlier.
I did a little fun TikTok
live for the show prep thing.
And that was one big topic
was that he had such a wide
range in this episode
compared to... I mean,
from what I understand, in The Good Place,
he was more of a comedic actor.
Oh, very much so.
He wasn't very serious or
anything like that.
So...
having him be that bumbling
fool and then turning
around and being this just
ridiculous martial artist
yeah it was it was really
fun to see and it yeah and
it really was reminiscent
of you know yoda or
palpatine where they you
know yoda and empire
strikes back shows up like
he's like he's you know an
idiot and then ends up
being grandmaster yoda and
same with palpatine you know he's
the Chancellor and kind of
dopes around a little bit
and then ends up being you know,
the Sith Lord,
so I think he did a really
good job of playing both
parts and by the end of this episode,
I fully believed that he
was a dark side user like
he he didn't necessarily say
he is sith he said the jedi
might refer to me as sith
so he didn't necessarily
say come out and say I'm
sith he like basically is
like I this is this is the
word that has been applied
to people like me in the past
Right.
And it's it's more like he's
using his power for his own way.
Like he had a big speech about, you know,
I just want to be left
alone to use this power the way I want.
And, you know,
his his way of doing it is
killing 20 Jedi in a matter
of five minutes.
He's the force using version.
He's the force wielding
version of a libertarian.
Yeah, there you go.
It was a fascinating character, though,
to see.
Especially his whole, what,
you didn't guess?
Right.
Did no one guess?
A lot of people did.
I just felt like I was the
only one on the show to be like, oh yeah,
I knew this was going to happen.
I knew that was going to happen.
I didn't want it to happen, but I saw it.
I didn't want it to be him.
I'm glad it is now that I've
seen the reveal.
Come on.
There's two classically
trained mixed martial artists there.
I knew it was going to be him.
And that's fair.
Just looking at his background.
it, it tracks.
So, no, no, no judgment.
Were you like,
we did discuss this last
week on the episode.
Um, we talked about, you know,
one of my biggest notes was,
so come here's the, the master, right?
Like that was,
I think we all pretty much
came to the conclusion that
it was either going to be
one of the witches or kind of him.
Yeah.
um were you guys I mean his
line when he says you know
you're surprised or
whatever I feel like that
was directed at the
audience oh very much very
much like because everyone
last week you know was and
now and now people are
upset about that they're
mad it was too obvious and it's like
What?
You can't even... Come on.
Again,
nobody hates Star Wars like Star
Wars fans.
I know.
And yeah, it was pretty obvious,
but I think you go back to
the prequels and it was
pretty obvious that Darth
Sidious was Palpatine.
There's...
Again, it's Star Wars.
It's what it is,
and it's what it always has been.
I was pretty happy with it,
and I was really excited to
see him in action,
even though he did wipe out
the entire crew.
He did it in a crazy fashion.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean,
this whole episode was basically an
extended fight sequence.
oh yeah it was stellar but
it would it hop around to
hand-to-hand combat to
multiple people on one to
solo battles it was such a
dynamic fight though
exactly and it showcased so
many of the different
actors strengths throughout
just between the the saber
combat and the um
hand-to-hand fighting the
actual like uh martial art
aspect of things versus
just the sword play they
they were killing it it was
amazing I liked even uh
learning how to break dance
with his neck oh dang too
soon man too soon that one
hurt it did all of them
hurt and we'll get into that um
the one thing that I really
wanted to talk about because yeah,
the fight scene was cool.
Every, you know, all the, all the,
all the fun stuff,
but his cuffs and his helmet.
Do you guys know what the,
what that was made out of?
Have you guys heard of this yet?
Phil, I'm sure you already know,
but Justin or Jesse, do you,
do you guys know what it is?
someone had mentioned it in
a chat it was like
something or I can't
remember what they had
mentioned um it's it's a
it's a metal called uh
cortosis and what it does
is it absorbs energy it can
uh like it'll absorb blaster fire
right so it so like when
osha shot the stun gun at
him he uh absorbed it
basically and that's that's
what that does yep and then
when he hits the
lightsabers it basically
sends the lightsaber back
to the crystal and then
shorts it out for a small
period of time yeah I was
wondering about that I was
all like what is going on
with the yeah why are
everybody's why are
everybody's lightsabers
suddenly shorting out I
just thought they were fragile
Like, oh, you're disabled.
No, that was the thing.
It was really fun to see.
It was really,
really fun to see it in action.
And it's something from the Old Republic.
It's a really old Legends
thing that they brought in.
Like you?
Yeah, it's from the Old Republic,
from the Legends EU.
Yeah, old EU.
But, I mean,
these guys don't know what
they're doing when they're
writing this show, clearly.
They're just pulling from, like,
crazy spots.
But they don't know what they're doing.
I thought that was a really
interesting tidbit, though.
And to see the lightsabers get, like,
sent back into the hilts.
And then every Jedi just going,
what the fuck?
You know, they're looking at it.
That was there.
They were just they were so confused.
And it plays into the whole
thing where the Jedi just
think that they're so
powerful that nothing can touch them.
Yeah.
And then they frazzle out.
Right.
Because they just don't know what to do.
They just think I'm fine.
Even Yord said it about Jackie saying, oh,
well, she's a Jedi.
She could take care of herself.
And she could.
Until she couldn't.
They did not know who they
were going up against.
That was a hell of a trick, too,
by the way.
Which trick?
There was a lot of tricks in this episode.
The end of the portion of
the fight against Jackie.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, where he pulled out.
Yeah.
That's wow.
I'm trying really hard to.
Yeah, we'll save that.
We'll save that for segments.
I know.
I gotcha.
That's why.
And people that have seen
the episode know exactly
what we're talking about.
Yeah.
But on the topic of tricks,
this dude had all the tricks in the book.
Just the lightsaber toss alone.
The tree cut scene was so good.
When the director said she
was bringing back the
lightsaber fighting from the prequels,
oh yeah, she definitely did.
Nailed it.
Man, some of those tricks, dude.
What else?
The double-bladed lightsaber
thing was very interesting.
I guess it's not double-bladed,
but he split it up.
Does this lightsaber have
two crystals in it?
Is that what was going on?
I have no idea.
I would assume it has to
because it's akin to Maul's
lightsaber in episode one,
but just condensed into the
smaller handle.
And it basically let him
achieve the Daisho.
Daisho?
Am I losing my mind?
Yeah.
Yeah, Daisho.
Yeah.
Like a Katana and a Katana-Wakizashi pair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ghost of Tsushima kind of stuff.
Yeah.
Just the standard samurai side blade.
The short sword.
It's Kitana Wakazashi Tanto,
which is like a dagger.
Yeah.
Different lengths of samurai swords.
Yeah.
It was a cloak and dagger situation, too,
just because, again,
the Jedi were not expecting
this to be coming.
He tricked them in every way possible.
because they just didn't
think it was possible.
And I love that you I love
that you use that phrase because I mean,
that's basically exactly
what he used as his weapons
at different points in the fight, too.
He literally threw his cloak
at Master Saul.
That's true.
And pulled the the
lightsaber dagger out on Jack on Jackie.
Again,
he used every trick in the book for him.
I'm wondering if he's got
anything else up his sleeve.
I think the last thing that
maybe we will get revealed
is that he's not the master.
That he's the... We should
talk about that part.
I have a theory.
All these two there are.
Right.
And maybe that's why he's
trying to recruit because he did say,
you know, I want an acolyte.
I want someone to train.
Yeah.
You got to think that
there'd be some someone
else behind the scenes.
Jesse,
you said you have a theory about that.
So, like I said earlier,
I really think that the
coven had something to do with it.
Like one of the mothers.
I think the,
I'm so bad with all these names.
Corill and Onasea.
So Corill was the redhead
one that carried the twins?
Yes.
And then Onasea.
Mother Corill and Mother Onasea.
Okay,
so I think it's kind of like an eye
for an eye situation.
I think... Chimere?
Is that how you say his name?
Chimere.
Chimere, okay.
I think he's somehow related to Sol.
Ooh.
And with the coven, like...
like, uh, like her,
she would be like an eye
for an eye situation.
Like you took OSHA from me.
So I'm going to take
something precious from you
and turn them into the dark side,
because it seems like this
is a whole revenge thing.
And so it was like,
there's something familiar about you.
And he's all like, yes, there is.
Have you not guessed this?
And we're thinking it's because, you know,
Oh,
you should have guessed it was the
bumbling idiot who was helping me.
But in reality, um,
It's more than that.
It's more personal.
And of course he made the idea of,
you know,
what did you do with your darks darkness?
So that's where I'm on board.
I'm on board for that.
I love it.
I like that.
I like this a lot.
That also furthers that theory,
and this just kind of proves your point,
Jesse.
I like to find different translations.
The translation for Anasea
was... What was that?
Do you remember?
I don't remember at this point.
Now I'd have to bring it over my notes.
But it had something to do
with the relation of...
her and someone else.
So chimer,
if you actually say if come
kamar in Arabic stands for moon,
soul stands for sun, sun.
So,
there's another connection there
between two people.
You got, you know, Osha and Mei.
They're kind of the yin and the yang.
You got the light and the dark in them.
You have Sol and Chimera.
You got the sun and the moon in them.
And then you had... Anasea
was Greek for resurrection.
That's what it was.
Anasea was Greek for resurrection.
So...
Yeah.
And so I think that that's
not a coincidence.
You know, that's not on accident.
Star Wars is big about their names.
And I think it was after OSHA.
Yeah.
With all the references,
why wouldn't they have them be related,
right?
And it comes back to the
whole concept of duality
that we've been dealing
with this entire series.
With the twins, with the day-night,
with the various other
episode titles that are
featuring elements of duality.
That is our overarching
theme of this entire thing.
Yeah.
And they clearly want OSHA.
Like he was more he was
disappointed in me.
Right.
And he was upset that she
wasn't the the right acolyte for him.
But he was more, I want to say,
sensitive or caring to OSHA
when she was on the floor.
So I always just felt like
they were using me just to get OSHA.
He was really the main character.
So that's what I was trying to clock.
And it just seemed like Sol
knew something about him
that he just couldn't grasp, right?
What was the big thing with
Rey and Kylo and their dyad?
What made the dyad so special?
was it that they were
connected and like could
take down the emperor like
I don't I don't remember
the point of the dyad just
that they could talk to
each other through space
basically they were two
linked through the force so
like one school or
something like the yin and
yang type situation
That's what I kind of think
Osha and Mei are.
Of course, dyad.
The dyad that was seen
generations prior to Kylo and Rey.
And there's got to be
something there with that.
But again, all these different references,
it would make sense for Sol
to be related or somehow
connected with Chimera.
Which could be why they were
playing Kylo's theme with Chimera.
People were mentioning about
the Knights of Ren.
Then, of course,
they mentioned about the Sith.
There's so many different
options about how this could play.
I still think that Green
Lady Jedi person also is
somewhere in the mix of
this because that's just
how it all started.
They were good people in the
midst of pretending to be
to bring them down.
That was the whole point.
They were, what's it called?
Like, um, uh,
Oh, my mind is blanking out.
It was a long work day.
But they were just like
sneaking in and pretending
to be the good guys when in
reality they weren't.
Right.
Like a double agent.
Yeah.
So, you know, I've seen this in Star Trek,
you know,
so it's just like they pretend
to be the good and they
were really the bad guy.
Right.
And I just feel like there's
just they're infiltrating, like you said,
to to bring them down.
Well,
that kind of leads me back to what if
Carrie Ann Moss is not dead
and she's part of this as well?
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
I don't see it being possible.
That there was something
from the inside that
they're getting broken up
from the inside.
You know what I mean?
They're trying to take them
out from the inside.
It was basically they're
trying to do what Palpatine did,
but you're going to see
them fail in their mission.
I don't know.
I feel like there's a lot of
different theories that we
could talk about,
and it could go either way.
I also like the theory that, you know,
Chimera is out there looking for someone,
but gets found by someone, i.e.
Plagueis or Palpatine or
something like that.
where he's you know
wandering and all of a
sudden Plagueis comes in
and he's like oh what's up
question for you guys do
you think they would
actually throw in Snoke
somehow into this because
you know I know Snoke was
brought up but we never
knew much about him so I
wasn't sure if they were gonna
Yeah,
I think the Bad Batch was the answer
to Snoke,
or was the Bad Batch was kind
of... An attempt.
What they were doing to, yeah,
to kind of explain that away, because...
Various iterations at cloning Palpatine.
Got it.
Basically.
Trying to have four sensitive clones.
Was it Mando 3 or Ahsoka?
I mean Mando 1, 2, and 3.
Moff Gideon most recently
Dr. Pershing was the one
that was getting into
cloning and trying to it
was called Operation Necromancer
Operation Necromancer is
what they called it.
And that is the Snoke origin, I think.
It had to do a little bit
with the Bad Batch,
and then they bring
Necromancer back when the
Shadow Council is around and stuff.
I think this, though,
it might be a little more
for Knights of Ren.
No.
I'm showing a little bit of that.
This is an entire setup for
the whole force and implanting pregnancy.
This is an entire setup for that.
It could be both.
It absolutely could.
I mean,
Chimera's helmet is very
reminiscent of the kind of
garb that we see the
Knights of Ren wearing.
Right.
Yep.
Yeah.
The whole toothy smile thing.
What if Chimera's last name is Ren?
Chimera Ren.
I just think of the worst
shit that fans would go...
What could piss them off the most?
Let's do this.
Last week we were talking
about if Coral ended up being Plagueis,
she comes out and she's like,
my name is now Plagueis.
Dude,
the fanboys would burn Disney World
to the ground.
There is such thing as too many answers.
yeah uh but anyway let's
let's move on from from
that whole thing because
there's a few other things
to talk about in this
including pip and the way
that he was used to kind of
pull a what was it who got
pulled sacrificed I don't
think he's I don't think
he's gone he's a murderer
no no as you could see in
my name basil and pip are
on the hunt like yeah
It was a heroic sacrifice.
It was a heroic sacrifice.
Hold on.
It wasn't a heroic sacrifice.
Well, he was sacrificed,
but it was my choice.
He's like, whoa, wait, what the hell?
He had no choice in it.
He didn't even have to argue with her.
That was brilliant, though.
The whole thing with the
moths was so good.
Talking about last episode
and me wanting to see the moths,
I'm glad that I got to.
I didn't think about they were nocturnal.
Justin,
we got to befriend one of them and
we'll name it Moth Gideon.
That's awesome.
train it um but so on with
with this scene it was one
of the cooler I mean yard
yard yard yard yard but
this whole episode he was
just so excited to get out
of there they're like get
the civilian out he's like get
civilian now let's go like
he was ready to go and it
took you know who who
screamed uh jackie screams
and that's when that's when
osha is that's when we got
back yeah and so finally
he's like she's a jedi she
could take care of herself
and then they were still
right and then she's like
no we got to go back
they're gonna all die and
that's where he was like
okay like I'll listen you know
But the idea to take all those bugs back,
I didn't think those bugs
were going to come back.
I thought it was kind of a
one-off sort of thing.
And then here we are.
I would take a figure of one of those.
I would take a toy of one of those.
Those are the scariest things.
Definitely a better payoff.
Definitely a better payoff
than I had anticipated
after Sol took down the one.
It was a lot scarier in the
previous episode, I thought.
Because suddenly it is
actually nighttime in the
middle of this alien jungle.
Right.
And you have bugs that are
the size of your torso.
Yeah, I was... In episode four,
that one scene with the bugs, I was like,
that was useless.
But it was because it was
playing out for the next episode.
I'm just enjoying watching
Justin get twitchy about
the giant bugs right now.
It's funny, I catch bugs and I study bugs,
but...
giant ones no thank you
those things are disgusting
um but they definitely
served a good purpose and
they got they did what they
needed to do although pip
kind of suffered from it I
do like the thought of
basil and pip going on
their own adventure I would
watch that show yeah yeah absolutely
They're stuck on the planet.
And you know what?
He knows that Yord got
killed and he's all like,
now I'm avenging his death, right?
He's like, I'm going after him.
And again, Basil, as far as we can tell,
is not force sensitive in any way,
shape or form.
he's just he's a tracker he
smells well I'm not saying
he smells good I'm not
saying he smells good
because he probably doesn't
but he smells well
oh he picked up may real
quick yeah yeah um so let's
on the topic of your dying
everybody fucking died in
this episode everyone
everyone except for we have
what four people left soul
may osha chimer that's it
and I guess if you count
basil yeah sure so that's a
little diet on the planet let's be honest
Those are the only
characters that are left
aside from the Jedi and at
the at the council.
Right.
What do you what was your
like biggest oh shit moment
of this episode?
Because there was a lot and
most of them came at the deaths.
Justin, let's start with you.
biggest oh shit moment um
how about the opening scene
when she wakes up to the
ground and sees a dead face
right next to her that
literally set the precedent
of the entire episode for
me and that just was I was
like oh yes here here's the
what I want and need yeah
phil what about you uh
um just because she's the
padawan uh jackie yeah
because it was so it was
incredibly sudden and
incredibly brutal yeah it's
just done the three hole punch yeah wow
she did I I'm sitting here
sitting here with the
triforce over my head and
just like one two three two
I mean it was phenomenal
jesse what was your biggest moment
Well, Phil took my answer,
but I will add a second one.
It's fine.
It's, you know, even though I'm the guest,
I should have gone.
I'm just kidding.
But you know what?
But no, Jackie and Yord.
Right.
Because yeah,
Lord went back listening to OSHA.
And then when he was like, it's you.
And then it happened.
So I don't mean to use a snap,
but it happened so quickly
and it was brutal.
Three snaps in legendary Z formation.
I mean, it was like quick and done.
And you're like,
I blinked and I missed it.
And then he just chucked him.
Just chucked him to the side.
Force chucked him.
Wow.
And it was like, oh, oh, shit.
That was it.
That was just like,
what the hell is going on?
And at that point, you're thinking, okay,
is Sol going to die?
Because we just don't know
what's going to happen.
Where are we going to go?
Where are we going to go
with the next three episodes?
Yeah.
That's what I thought.
I thought Cole was going to die.
My biggest moment was the Jedi skewer.
I think the Jedi skewer was
when I realized that this
episode was completely
different than any other episode.
By the end of it,
I have to ask the question,
what's going to happen to
all those dead Jedi?
There's just, what,
ten of them laying out in a
forest dead right now?
It's a forest.
It's a jungle, man.
Are we counting Kaldaka?
Everything's hungry in the jungle.
There's a reason that I bring this up.
Because Mother Anasea is
Greek for resurrection.
Are we going to see any of
these Jedi possibly get resurrected?
We still have to see that
scene of Kaldaka fighting
Torben, right?
We do.
We did get a glimpse of
Chimera healing Osha, though,
using force to heal her.
So he has lots of powers
unknown and is not scared
to use the dark side.
I'm very curious.
They were using the force to
enhance their powers, right?
And so that's why it just
feels all connected.
Yeah.
everything right
everything's good
everything's good
everything's good
everything's good
everything's good
everything's good
everything's good everything's good
I would love to see a bunch
of zombie Jedi backing up Chimera.
You know what I mean?
I'm thinking of Lord of the
Rings when Aragorn had all
those ghosts come and help.
The army of the dead.
Jedi ghosts coming to help.
Or the Game of Thrones guy.
The Ice King.
Josh,
did you not get enough stormtrooper
zombie action in Ahsoka?
Yeah.
No, I mean, I did.
I just think it would be
kind of cool to see some of
these... See what happens
to all these dead Jedi.
They're really just going to
leave them out in the
forest to be eaten by the bugs?
Chimera's going to come back
and take care of it, implied.
It's going to take care of it.
What if it brings back Jackie?
They resurrect Jackie and
she is going against Sol.
That would suck.
What if it turns out she has
a connection to her Marvel
Universe character as the
Wolverine healing factor?
Yeah.
You never know.
Osha could have those kind
of connections too.
Osha could have some sort of witch powers.
But the last point,
that was just a fun little,
I don't really think that
any Jedi are going to get resurrected,
by the way.
Everyone out there, TikTok, calm down.
I honestly think any of the
fight that we see with
Kilnock and Torben is still
in the flashbacks.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
For sure.
The very last thing that I
really wanted to bring up
before we get into segments
is we're really going to believe,
we're going to sit here and
believe that Sol doesn't
know that that's Mei.
Oh.
Oh.
I can explain this from a
medical point of view go on
but Star Wars doesn't go by
sci-fi rules or physics so
it doesn't matter
PTSD is your acute judgment
in the moment and here now.
And with his adrenaline dump
going throughout his system,
he just doesn't pay
attention to the details.
He's so focused in on,
I got to get the hell out of here.
And here's my old Padawan.
Yeah, I'm with you on this one.
There's a tattoo on her forehead.
that he's covering it
because it's his right for
bangs makeup she's just
slapping on makeup in the
middle of the floor she's
using the beetle juice bugs
bangs change your look for
sure I'm sorry if there's
like if there's one
complaint that I have I
know a lot of people have
complained about the
writing and stuff I haven't
really cared that much but
this particular thing
just chopped off her hair
and she parent trapped him
it's a whole parent trap
right Jesse there's no way
if Sol doesn't find out I
think he probably knows
it's gonna play along he's
gonna die have they left the planet yet
No, though they're on the ship.
But also,
Basil is on the ship and he's
got... He's on the hunt.
As I wrote.
He's on the hunt.
Basil's going to get killed by May.
Basil is going to get killed by May.
And then May's going to shut Pip up.
That's when Sol's going to
figure shit out.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
If Sol doesn't figure it out
within the first five
minutes of the next episode
or when we see them next,
I might be a little upset because... No,
that's understandable.
Come on.
Come on.
This is where I had my issues.
Like,
right when it got up to Osha and
Mei's part,
it just felt like they were
flip-flopping a little bit.
And I was like, okay,
I need them to kind of know
where they're going.
First, Mei is, like, bad,
and then she's going to turn herself in,
and now she's bad again.
And then I was like...
what is going on.
So that's where I kind of down.
I kind of chalk that up to
her being the cowardliest of cowards.
Just like will say and do
anything to just get out of
the situation.
Even though she's been
hunting Jedi and killing Jedi,
now she's like, well, whatever,
I'll turn myself in and
I'll be totally fine.
And now that all the Jedi are dead,
she's like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
I messed up.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
So she's just...
Like you said, she's a flip-flopper,
and she has no loyalty to anyone.
I would even say that
she's... Except for Osha.
I think she's very loyal to Osha,
but Osha's not loyal to her,
and that's what pisses her off.
Yeah.
Because Osha sees through it,
and she's like, nah, dude,
you're not just going to
keep flip-flopping over
here and then expect me to
be okay with it.
You're under arrest.
Right.
That's why she did it.
Yeah.
So yeah, I just... That's the...
This next episode has to be
a flashback now.
Now that we've gotten the
conclusion of this battle,
we're going to get to the
conclusion of the flashback,
and then the last two
episodes will be the finale, whatever.
So I am totally okay with this.
I'm ready to get some answers.
One of them being what
actually happened with Talbin and Kelnaka,
and the other one being how
did Chimera find Mei?
was he just chilling he was
just hanging out on that
planet after everybody died
like how did they find each
other and you know that's
fair um it's just the
reactor yeah I just don't I
don't see I don't see 10
year old may being able to
like hop into a spaceship
that you know and just go all around yeah
So I'm very curious to see
how they came to be.
And then I just want to know
what actually happened.
Just like everyone else wants to know.
The other question is, what does Sol know?
Like, what's his dark side?
What is he hiding?
Because clearly he's hiding something.
What is the overall secret
that all of these other
Jedi are already dying for?
Right.
Ego.
Pride.
Right.
I mean,
everything that the current Jedi do.
Here's hubris.
So other than that,
I think most of the other
things that I had to talk
about are going to be
talked about in segments.
Did you guys want to bring
anything else up?
Let's start with Jesse.
pretty much covered the
majority of how everything went down.
I mean, there's, like I said,
I have these theories,
and I'm wondering if
they're going to play out
the way that they are.
And we'll kind of see how it goes.
But yeah,
it was just it was a roller
coaster of an episode.
That's for sure.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Um, phenomenal action sequences, just
some of the most intense
fights we've seen in any Star Wars media.
I'm going to mess up this alliteration,
but this is the most Sith
shit that we've seen since Episode 3,
man.
It was awesome.
We have seen some serious Sith shit.
I guess I do have one more
question for you guys,
and it's just a yes or no question.
We don't have to get into
any details or anything like that.
But Leslie Hedlund did say
in one of her interviews
that the big lightsaber
duel in this will rival the
episode one lightsaber duel
and might even be better.
than the duel of the fates
so with a yes or no answer
justin do you think the
battle of uh kofar was
better than the duel of the
fates uh no because if
she's standing up no we've
seen anything yet phil yes
or no better fight not as
good of music jesse yes or no
I'm gonna say yes.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I'm going to say yes.
I'm going to say yes too.
And just because it was
jaw-dropping and crazy,
Of course,
the satellite killer scene is
the part of the episode
where we talk about our
favorite still shot of each
episode of the Acolyte.
So like we normally do,
let's start with Jessie.
Her scene comes in at the 11
minute and 18 second mark.
Tell us about this scene.
Okay.
So Jackie's fight scene was brilliant.
Like for her being a Padawan, she was just,
I hate to use this phrase,
but she was killing it.
which makes her death so
like because she was doing
so good but what I liked
about this is that because
she had both lightsabers
one was out and the moment
it kicked back on her
little smirk of like haha
her hand here and now she's
pulling some Ahsoka's right
she's pulling that whole
two blades there and just
going after him like it
didn't stop her so I loved
the moment that lightsaber
came back and her little smirk of like
I'm still here.
You haven't stopped me yet.
So that's why I wanted to
pick this scene because I was all like,
ha, I liked it when it happened.
And it's so good because, I mean,
it very briefly foreshadows her own fate.
It does.
It does.
But I think also,
Chimere also respected
Jackie in some way.
Because he had mentioned a little bit,
like, you know, May,
you should be more like her
because she's a loyal Padawan.
She's loyal.
And so I think to him,
her death was justifiable.
But, like, you know, she died in honor.
And it's such a strong setup
for the skill potential of
a Padawan who is raised
from a very young age to
the position of Padawan.
Right.
Look at what she is capable of at her age.
versus Luke,
who is too old to begin the training,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, that she,
one,
that she decided to pick up Kelnaka's
lightsaber and take it with her.
Right.
Well, that she took it off of May,
because May was the one who
picked it up initially, right?
May had it.
May had it.
May had it.
Jackie took it from her when
she cuffed her.
And then she just was like, oh,
my lightsaber blade is shorted out.
This blade's blocking.
Oh, but wait.
Surprise, motherfucker.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, ha-ha.
Yeah.
No,
and props to Daphne Keene for just the
way she nailed that ha-ha moment.
She did.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a great pick for that.
Her grin in that scene was just perfect.
Top notch.
Good choice.
Before I go any further,
thank you guys so much for
holding it down there for a second.
I don't know what the hell just happened,
but editing is going to be a nightmare.
A nightmare.
Joshua never had a stroke.
It like really didn't even say anything.
TikTok just fucking left.
So anyway, great pick, Jesse,
with the starlight killer scene.
Let's go on to Justin's
starlight killer scene
comes in at the three
minute and 21 second mark.
The force choked into the
double Jedi skewer.
I flat out thought to myself,
this is the most Sith shit
I've ever seen.
Manipulating all those force
powers into one commutative attack.
Thank you.
That was so cool.
is awesome and then just
continued to escalate so
like this was just the the
beginning of the roller
coaster but it was the
first like dirty sith move
I've seen it's it is
something that star killer
would have been able to do
in force unleashed thank you I love it
It's such a video game move.
I feel like Cal did this in the Jedi games,
too.
Cal, I believe, did.
Yeah.
It is such a video game move,
is the thing.
Regardless of what game
we're talking about,
it is a video game move to
pull the extra enemy into
your already dead opponent.
You know, against another opponent.
yeah excellent pick I love
that one for sure let's go
on to the lighting in those
scenes so good the whole
cinematography of this
episode was fantastic even
though it was dark they did
such a good job with the
shadows and the way that
they like even sometimes
the way the mask reflected
off the lightsabers did you
guys watch this episode in
a dark room though
oh yeah I watched it alone
in a dark room actually I'm
pretty sure there was a
candle lit too I my my
two-year-old was asleep on
the couch next to me but
you know otherwise it was a
dark relatively quiet room
get him young excellent um
all right well let's move
on to phil's scene which
comes in at the 25 minute
and 30 second mark tell us
about this guy oh yeah uh so it's
it's a super simple and
fairly tropey kind of thing.
It's like, Hey,
I'm going to make myself look like you.
Um,
it comes up in so many different things
when we have twins, um,
But it's a haircut scene and
that she does it with the lightsaber.
You know,
the way she leans down prior to
activating the blade makes
it look almost like she's
going to try to run it
through her own throat.
That's kind of what I thought.
And just when you realize
what she's about to do, it's like, oh,
shit,
we are going actually full on parent
trap here.
We are.
The whole twin switcheroo.
That's been all over the place.
We had it in the House of
the Dragon this weekend, too.
Can you consider this a
pseudo Deus Ex Machina move
to try to wrap up the story?
no again cowardly is just
like I'm gonna try and hide
myself away to get right
here one it gets her away
off planet away from kymere
who she doesn't know she
doesn't know if kymere's
still alive at this point
all right yeah uh away from
him it gets her close to
saul yeah it's smart as
hell she still has a tattoo
on her forehead
Yes,
but she does... She at least... She at
least takes the extra step
of switching clothes.
She might as well just... Paragraph.
Like, literally just watch Paragraph.
She wore the... Dude.
Just... Whatever.
I did like the little haircut.
Yeah,
I just... I thought it was very clever.
Just...
unexpected use of a lightsaber.
yeah it's true I don't know
it's yeah and I mean
they're twins they look
exactly like I did it's
almost like they're played
by the same actress or
something dude and that's
something at one point I
had to just laugh because
of like the way that they
were shooting this and like
the cuts that they had
where you could never see
both of their faces at the
same time yeah ever well
you know that is a struggle
you run into when you cast
one you have one actor no I
know it's just like
Should have liked the parent trap.
Have a mirror everywhere.
Didn't they spend $180 million on this?
Couldn't they do the face thing?
Couldn't they have a
different actress there and
put her face on?
They did it all on the
freaking lightsaber scene.
So they're like,
we got to make some cuts somewhere.
Yeah.
Martial arts doesn't come cheap.
That's for sure.
Excellent picks, though.
I will go quickly with mine
because we did talk about it already.
It comes in at the 15-minute mark.
It is the Triforce of Jackie.
That poor girl.
I know I said earlier that
the skewer was my oh shit moment,
but this was absolutely the
most oh shit moment of the episode.
Because she's a child.
Yeah.
She is a Padawan.
And for him to just like, no remorse,
no mercy, strike fast, strike hard.
And that it's any one of
those would have been a killing shot.
Yeah, but he just had to make sure.
Lung, lung, heart.
Definitely overkill.
And the big was, too,
is that when Sol was like,
she was only a child, he's like,
you brought her.
You brought her here.
That's a stab in the... Because it's true.
If she wasn't here, she wouldn't have died,
right?
Yes, she's a child,
but you brought her into a war zone.
You brought her into this.
Yeah, so...
Can't really blame me, buddy.
She held her own really well.
She did.
That's why it was so like...
Dang it.
When she died.
She's a favorite.
Yeah.
No matter how much this
whole star Wars fandom has, you know,
imploded over this show.
Oh,
the one thing has been is just Jackie
has been pretty, pretty awesome.
Right.
And then all of a sudden she she's gone.
So it's like they're just
doing that for the dramatic
effect of like just killing
her off the way that they
did or it's going to play
in somehow later on.
So I guess we'll just see.
Yeah,
I think that might be the last that
we've seen of her, though, to be honest.
I don't think she'll be in
any flashbacks or anything.
The thing, though, Josh,
that really struck me about
this particular scene, and again,
I'm glad you picked it
because I wanted to talk a
little more about it.
Yeah.
Chimera did that backhand.
Yeah.
That was a backhand strike
with his left hand.
Yeah, that's true.
Secret blade.
And he did one, two,
three before she could blink.
Yeah, it was... With precision.
Yeah.
I mean, that's when you really, really...
understand when you
absolutely not fucking
around 100 have to kill a
jedi tonight yeah dude
let's practice that move
100 times just to get it right right then
yeah that's what I mean he
that's what you know we
talked about his dual
lightsaber there and she
had him like I mean maybe
maybe she didn't maybe this
is like a paul walker vin
diesel thing where he's
like you never had me you
never had your car but like
it seemed like she had him
right like she elbowed him
in the face got the mask
knocked off revealed who he
was you know got him pretty
good like he was on the
ground a few times and she
was about to capture him
When she knocked his helmet off,
I thought that was it.
Yeah.
Very quickly.
Turned that around.
And it was the same with Yord.
Jackie gets it and then Yord
pops up out of nowhere and
he just instantly gets it.
That's it.
Yeah.
And guess who's able to kill
a Jedi without a weapon?
What do you know?
Interesting how that worked out.
I didn't realize that.
That's a great place to
leave off there and move on
to the next segment.
Wait, I hit the wrong button.
There it is.
Ooh, it's a new segment for this season.
Not new, but we just haven't done it yet.
It's the one-chimer segment
where we pick out our
favorite line of dialogue
from each episode and we talk about it.
So let's keep the trend and
we'll start with Jesse's one-chimer.
He gets into your head and he stays there.
My mother could do that.
Get inside a Jedi's head.
I saw it once.
I have things to say, but please, please.
Chimera has to be part of this coven.
Like where would he learn that?
Like, I'm sorry.
I was just like, it's right there.
It's right in front of us.
And when she said that I was all, yeah.
So the coven has definitely
has to be a part of it
where it's multiple or it's the mothers.
I don't know.
And I mean, they're, they're,
they're framing each other.
Right.
Cause may know something
different versus what OSHA remembers.
Right.
She thinks may started the fire.
I don't think she did.
There's just this conflict.
So,
this was all to get back at
the jedi and so but that
right there just kind of
confirmed it for me that I
was like they're part of
this so what are your
thoughts but that was just me
So that, first of all,
it was a really good red
herring because right there I was like,
oh my God, it's totally coral.
Like that was the one moment
where I thought that it was
going to be coral or mother ice.
Yeah.
No, it was a great bait and switch.
Yeah.
The more I think about it,
the more it's kind of like, well...
they related why is is soul
maybe a father maybe they
weren't conceived by the
father but coral made it
seem like they were because
she didn't want people to
know that she was you know
knocking boots with Jedi I
go that far but
Do you think,
is Chimera old enough to be
maybe an older brother of
theirs or something?
He's old enough to be a village survivor.
sure because they they
didn't have males in their
coven um but usually I mean
usually in those crazy like
in the market yes but not
in the in the coven itself
not in there I'm just
saying like it could have
been a village that lived
there or a villager that
lived there during that time
Or is it like one of those
covens that has one male?
It's like a miracle.
There it is.
See, that's what I'm saying.
Is it going to be once every
few centuries this male is
born into the coven and he
has powers to control people's minds?
Or is it more like Sol who
can read people's minds?
Sort of like Dune?
Kind of.
shari is that what they're
called right uh yeah I
didn't really I don't know
man this is where I kind of
went for the eye situation
of just you know like
chimera could be soul's
child right who was taken
so probably thinks that his
child died and they took him to who
again eye for an eye be like
you took my daughter I'm
going to take your son and
I'm going to destroy you
and he's going to destroy
all of you because of what
you did so but he had to
have learned that from them
I am very curious to see
chimer's motivation beyond
just wanting to have a uh a
student apprentice yeah uh
now justin what were you
saying about dune
Oh,
I was making the funny connection to
the Ashari with the guy
from Dune being Chimer and the witch.
Yes.
The whole Bene Gesserit thing.
Bene Gesserit.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I don't know where Ashari.
I don't know where you got it either.
That's from Critical Role.
Why are we into Dune?
Let's move on to Justin's one-chimer.
Jesus, man.
It's okay.
Was that its name?
Cold-blooded.
That's all I gotta say.
That was just so cold-blooded.
Absolutely brutal.
Like an animal.
A dark side user.
I can't say Sith because
it's not confirmed,
but that is some Sith shit.
Wow.
I mean... Just write her off by like, oh,
that was a piece of... As
less than even sentient...
By, you know, calling J.K.
it.
Is that its name?
Yeah.
Yeah, I really.
Yeah.
Quite the hatred for that
man by the end of this episode.
No, he's he is playing it up as a villain.
He's he's killing it.
That was a sort of drop from
his dark personality.
He hops back into Chimera,
says that little quip, and then boom,
back into dark side mode.
Yeah, no,
he very much has that sass kind
of banter mode, basically,
that he has with May in his
earlier appearances.
He's a prick.
He is.
I love him.
I'm a dark side guy.
Danny Jacinto, absolutely killing it.
Great pick, Justin.
Phil,
your one-chimer is... I've accepted
my darkness.
What have you done with yours?
And again,
with three episodes left to go
in this season...
we still have a lot of
potential to see some more
of Sol's backstory.
Sol's terrified.
Sol's terrified to tell his backstory.
Every time they bring it up, he's like, uh,
uh.
Yeah.
And here we see him in the
immediate aftermath of losing his Padawan,
of losing Yord,
of losing everyone else on
this task force that he published him.
Yeah.
Knowing that Kalnaka is dead
on top of all of that.
And Carrie.
He has, as far as,
as far as he's concerned,
he has utterly failed in everything.
You think Mr. Mundy would
have taken him one-on-one
just straight up?
No.
I do think that if not for,
for OSHA's intervention,
he would have been,
that Chimera would have been dead though.
Yeah, probably.
I honestly do believe that.
Oh, you're talking with Sol.
No, with Sol.
If not Ferocious Intervention here,
I fully believe that Sol
would have killed Chimera.
See,
and that's my biggest issue with the
twins is why are they even here?
Just for that?
Just to extend this series
by three episodes?
Yes.
This would have been a great
six-part series where it's
this dude going, or, you know,
the Acolyte going and killing Jedi.
No twin involved, just the Acolyte.
And then they kill Chimera
at the end to cover up.
And that's it.
See?
Still...
No fifths for a millennia.
Oh no, no plot.
Just one big lightsaber battle.
Get away from me, story.
I don't want you anywhere near here.
Excellent pick, Phil.
We're going to move on to my pick,
which I had to cut up a
little bit because it was a
little longer.
What extraordinary beings we are.
Even in the revelations
of our triumph you see the
depth of our despair yeah
he's got some shakespeare
in him for sure he does
that's that's suffering
isn't it he's just just
spitting lines up there and
yeah he that's that's him
just like just getting back
into the zone I feel like
and and he's talking about
you know the depths of his
despair like he's been
through some shit and he
clearly knows that that's
osha and he's clearly going
to use that to his
advantage oh yeah and I i
love that it's made clear
to the audience by virtue
of her tattoo uh be
invisible there on her arm
yeah oh yeah no that's
definitely osha then yeah
You know,
just I think it's also a call out
to like the whole, you know.
hate leads to suffering kind of thing.
Right.
Right.
So, and he's just like, it is what it is.
This is, this is the way of the dark side.
And he,
he throws that thought terminating
cliche in there and away he goes.
He's about to bring a truth
from to her life and then
try to turn her to the dark side.
Yeah.
That's what it was a premise to like,
I had the wrong twin this whole time.
It's going to be very
interesting to see what he tells her.
What is he going to say?
And can we trust him?
Is what he says to Osha
going to be the truth or is
he going to be manipulating
her by giving his side of the story?
And we have that switch
happening now with the twins.
Yep.
Where with Mae,
with Mae going off with Sol
and Osha being picked up by Kymer,
I cannot wait to see where
this goes next episode.
I know we've all been
talking about seeing
flashbacks and different
perspectives that we saw
Ocean's flashback.
We'll have one.
I don't think we're going to
see a May flashback, though.
I think we're going to see a
Chimera flashback.
It's going to be more along
the lines of how he found May.
Yes.
How he knows that whole thing.
Yeah,
because the first flashback we got
was how Sol rescued Osha.
And so this next one is
going to be how Chimera
rescues May in the whole fire and stuff.
And did he maybe have a
little bit more to do with
it because he wanted
force-using children?
Yeah.
Who knows?
Tune in next week on Tuesday at 8 o'clock.
Excellent.
I really appreciate it.
I really appreciated you
guys doing the one-chimer this week.
It's the first time we've
done it this season.
It was a lot of fun.
I feel like we had some
pretty good dialogue.
We didn't have a whole lot
of new characters or places
or anything else introduced this week.
So...
And all of our favorite new
characters are dead anyway,
so it doesn't even matter.
Everyone dies.
Everyone dies.
All of our friends are dead.
Yeah, absolutely.
So let's get into our final
segment of the week.
Yeah, the Tusken Raider,
where we rate each episode out of 10.
And this week,
we're going to rate it out of 10...
Stabs.
And stabs.
Ten stabby stabs.
Out of ten lightsaber stabs.
Ten flying beetles.
Yes, or ten flying beetles.
That sounds good.
Jessie,
what would you rate this week's
episode of The Acolyte?
Just for the fight scene alone,
I'm going to give it a good old 8.5.
Ooh, all right, all right.
Yeah.
I have been just very back
and forth with Acolyte,
and it's definitely not my favorite show.
I definitely have a lot of
problems with it.
I feel like at the very end of the show,
it's going to all make sense,
but it's just been kind of
choppy here and there where I'm like,
I don't get this.
But this one definitely...
the two thirds of it that I really,
really enjoyed definitely
gave me the oh shits that
we were talking about earlier.
So I definitely will give it an 8.5.
All right.
That's what we should do it
out of 10 oh shits.
One oh shit, eight and a half oh shits.
Phil,
what would you rate this episode out
of 10 oh shits?
I gotta call this one a nine.
This is some of the best
action sequences we have
seen in any Star Wars media in, again,
in the last 25 years.
Yeah.
Since we got the prequels.
Yeah, no, I mean,
the end of Rogue One with
Vader stomping through
everybody notwithstanding.
This is some of the most brutal.
This is some of the most
brutal action we have seen
out of a Star Wars franchise.
Ever.
It was amazing.
Well choreographed.
Major emotional notes.
And fun setup for the next
three episodes to come.
Absolutely a 9 out of 10.
Justin, what would you rate this episode?
I agree with Bill.
I give it a 9.
The entire time.
It hurts them so bad.
Literally from the get-go.
Her waking up to see the
dead Jedi looking at her
just felt so like... Saving Private Ryan
all sort of.
And then like, she just witnesses the,
the double skewer and then
all the Sith bad-assness.
I'm just going to call it.
And like Phil said, it leads, it,
it setups questions to be
answered in the next three episodes.
Um, overall, I, I, I do love the battle.
I do.
It's just not my number one,
but it's still my number three.
Um,
Yeah,
I got nothing but good things to say.
If someone said I watch Acolyte, I'm like,
okay,
you're going to watch episode four
and then five,
and then tell me how you like Acolyte.
I originally rated this an 8.
You guys convinced me to
move it up to an 8.5.
The reason it's so low,
I just can't get over May's
tattoo on her fucking forehead.
Like I said,
it went downhill for me when
they saw each other.
I was just like, what?
Yeah.
I get it.
That gives us an 8.75 cumulative.
Yeah, totally.
Which is definitely the
highest rating we've had for this season.
All season.
Well done, the Acolytes.
Win-win.
Not that this series has
been bad by any means.
I've enjoyed it the whole time.
There's been a couple lulls
and maybe slower story-building moments,
but that's where we suffer
in the episodic 30-minute
episodes every week nature.
Yeah.
um I i still say like they
need to go back to just
films like just do films
again just to even
standalone movies like who
who could you could even
just do disney plus films
just release it on disney
plus but as a movie instead
of as these 20 I think this
episode was 26 minutes total
It was like 36 minutes, yeah.
Yeah,
but if you cut out four and a half
minutes of the credits...
Discounting the credits and
the... And the recap,
you're taking almost 10
minutes off of that.
So it was like 26 or 27
minutes for just the episode, which,
you know,
Star Trek at least is getting
hour-long episodes.
And hey,
prodding is over for a second season.
yeah even lower decks had
longer episodes
anyway thank you guys so
much for hanging out and
thanks everyone on stream
yard uh and anyone that was
on tiktok that came on over
I did want
to ask um who would who
would win in a fight darth
mauler come here
I was going to say Chimere.
Honestly,
even based on what we saw of Maul
in Clone Wars,
I got to say Chimere would
probably kick his ass if
both of them were at the
top of their game.
I think Chimere's got a lot of baggage,
man.
Chimere doesn't give any fucks.
That's basically what it comes down to.
I think Chimere would take him.
Yeah.
I love those answers.
Jesse,
go ahead and tell the listeners and
people out there where they
can find you and how they
can find your podcast.
Of course.
So my podcast is Crusher Convo.
It is a Star Trek podcast
where we deep dive episodes
through the eyes of Dr. Beverly Crusher.
And you can find us on
YouTube and Instagram and
threads at at Crusher Convo.
My next episode is going to
be this Friday with Tim from FSF Popcast.
And we are going to be
discussing Gates McFadden
and now in her new role in
the Marvel Universe doing
voiceovers of like
x-men 97 and of course she
was also in he-man so we're
going to be talking about
more of that stuff so super
excited and then I also
have an interview with john
billingsley next week so
yeah so very excited
Excellent.
Yeah.
And of course,
all those links are
clickable in the show notes.
So if you just scroll on
down on your device and click,
go give them a follow and a
listen because it is a good time.
thank you guys all so much
for coming and hanging out
and talking some Star Wars.
Next week is weird.
I don't know what's actually
going to happen yet.
This week we did it on Wednesday.
Next week Friday, baby.
We'll let you know pretty
much just give us,
give us a like on any
social media and we'll let
you know what's going on
when we know what's going on.
So we're going to do a little sign off.
And yeah.
So for quest me, I have been your host.
I'm Justin.
I'm Phil.
And I'm Jesse.
Yeah.
And of course my name is
Josh and we're going to
talk at you next week.
May the force be with you.