Lean Solutions at the BLOX

What You’ll Learn:
Patrick Adams discusses his experience on the "Blox" show, a live startup competition. He was motivated by the opportunity to learn and apply new skills to his business, Lean Solutions. The show, which features 100-150 businesses, is hosted by Wes Bergman and involves daily classroom sessions and challenges. Patrick emphasizes the importance of simplifying business explanations and making them accessible to non-lean practitioners. He highlights the value of networking, the competitive yet supportive environment, and the exhaustion from the intense week-long filming. The show is available on the Blocks app, Facebook, and their website.

What is The Lean Solutions Podcast?

This podcast offers business solutions to help listeners develop and implement action plans for lean process improvement and implement continuous improvement projects, cost reductions, product quality enhancements, and process effectiveness improvement. Listeners come from many industries in both manufacturing and office applications.

Catherine McDonald 0:04
About this plan. Last year, you were invited to go on this show the blocks. So tell us, what were you told about the show? How was it explained to you, and why did you decide to go on it?

Patrick Adams 0:15
You know, I like to call myself a lifelong learner. I'm always looking for opportunities to stretch myself, to develop my skill set. And, you know, as a as a business owner, as an entrepreneur, I thought, you know, this would be just the perfect opportunity for me to, you know, learn some new things, apply those learnings to my business. And so I felt like it was just a perfect fit for me to to, put my name in the hat and in hopes that I would get accepted to the show, obviously, then I showed up in last November for the recording of season 19 of blocks.

Catherine McDonald 1:02
Hello, and welcome to this episode of the lean solutions podcast. My name is Catherine MacDonald, and I am joined today by who person who is usually my co host, Patrick Adams, but today he's also my guest. Hello, Patrick, how are you doing?

Patrick Adams 1:18
I'm doing great, Catherine, it's great to see you. We we saw each other not that long ago at the Lean Solution Summit in Detroit, but it seems like a lifetime, like we haven't been together to record an episode since then. So it's like we're just catching up here. It's great.

Catherine McDonald 1:37
It is, and it was such a great event. We never even started. Got to talk much about it, and we did at the time, but not since such a great event and and well done on all the organizing and to the whole team. It was, it was really fantastic. I had such a good time. So thank you. Was amazing. Oh

Patrick Adams 1:53
yeah, no, I'm glad you were able to make it. I know it's a it's a long flight for you and for many others who came in from overseas, but the community, the people, I mean, it's, it's, it's worth it. It's just we had so much fun together. Everyone, you know, just having super valuable conversations, tons of fun, lots of hands on, learning. It was just a great event all around it, which is why I love it every year. It's definitely the highlight for me. Every year. Tons of fun. I was glad you were able to make it this year, yeah, meet in person for the first time, exactly, and

Catherine McDonald 2:32
Jane and Andy and everybody else who I seem to have met, everybody on LinkedIn, and every second person I recognized, and they recognized me, and it was just this, wow, this, this is you. And it didn't seem real. It was amazing. But anyway, today we are not going to go into the summit, but we're going to talk about something a little different. So Patrick, you're going to be my guest, and I'm going to talk to you about something that you got involved in last year about this time last year, right? Yeah,

Patrick Adams 3:06
yes, I recorded the show last year, and it just now dropped. So it takes a while for them to, I think, put together all of the the video editing everything like that. So the season just dropped.

Catherine McDonald 3:24
Okay, so we're talking about a show called the blocks, B, l, o, x, is that right? You got it? Yeah, that's as much as I know, really. So I'm gonna have a lot of questions about this. I know a little bit, and it sounds really, really interesting, really, really different. So I really want to know more. So about this time last year you were invited to go on this show the blocks. So tell us, what were you told about the show? What, what was, how was it explained to you, and why did you decide to go on it?

Patrick Adams 3:57
Yeah, so I actually had a friend who was also on the show a few years back, and she had nothing but amazing things to say about it. And you know, I like to call myself a lifelong learner. I'm always looking for opportunities to stretch myself, to develop my skill set. And you know, as a as a business owner as an entrepreneur, I thought, you know, this would be just the perfect opportunity for me to, you know, learn some new things, apply those learnings to my business. And I knew that they at the blocks, they also teach the lean startup. So I knew that that was part of what we would be discussing and applying, and so I felt like it was just a perfect fit for me to to, you know, put my name in the hat, and in hopes that I would get accepted to the show. I know they have 1000s and 1000s of entries, you know, for for each season. And that they, you know, that they publish. And so I filled out the application, sent in information. There was a bunch of things that I had to send in along with that. And then, lucky for me, I was able to land a video interview with their one of their producers. And I actually, I remember I was in Kazakhstan and on a totally different time zone, and when the interview happened, and it was probably in on in my time in Kazakhstan, I think it was, I don't even know, 11pm 11:30pm or something like that. And it was in my hotel room, and Cassie was the person that I met with, and she we just kind of went through my background, my experience as an entrepreneur, as a business owner. Why did I start my business? What was the purpose of Lean solutions? And you know what it is that we do for our clients. And through that entire interview, it just kind of solidified my feeling of, yes, I definitely would love to be on the show, but I had to wait until they, you know, gave me the acceptance which I received, I don't even know, maybe a week, week and a half later, I received an email with an acceptance letter to the show and all the details around when I needed to show up in Omaha, Nebraska. And you know, they do a great job with all of their instructions. So their their work instructions were pretty amazing, step by step on what we needed to do and when we needed to show up and how we needed how it all needed to happen. So that's how it all began, and obviously, then I showed up in last November for the recording of season 19 of blocks.

Catherine McDonald 6:52
Okay, and this, this is a competitive show, right? So you're competing against other contestants that right. That's

Patrick Adams 7:01
right. That's right. So in each season, there's probably anywhere from 100 to 150 different businesses that are part of the season, part of the show, and every business, either business owner or business partners, are in attendance for the, for the it's, it's basically a the, I think they, they call it the world's largest live in startup competition, and one of the most unique shows on entrepreneurship. So it's, it was very interesting to be part of it. But you know, you meet hundreds of other entrepreneurs when you're there and from all different industries, all different businesses, and that there was a ton of value in that alone, just the networking that was able to happen there with so many different business owners from around the United States. But also it was a competition, more of I don't know, maybe more of a friendly competition. Everybody was there for the same reason we it. That's why it was so unique. Because you're there to learn as much as you can about how to apply these principles to your business. But also, there's a little bit of a twist in the competition side of things, where you're kind of competing against all these other business owners for, you know, the title to win the blocks at the end of the week, which is, which is pretty cool. So okay,

Catherine McDonald 8:29
so I definitely want to know more about what exactly you were doing in these competitions. And how long were you there for, Patrick, you were there for the

Patrick Adams 8:38
filming happens in one full week. So you arrive, I think it was, I think we arrived on Sunday. Filming begins on Monday morning, and it's, it's a, you know, it's a 2424 hour, like you're, I mean, you sleep, but you're, you're pretty much being filmed the entire time outside of sleeping from Monday morning until Friday, when we when we finish the show. Wow.

Catherine McDonald 9:05
Okay, so I definitely want to know more about what you did, but tell me this. I This. This sounds it's a little bit like, maybe in my head, other shows we've seen before, like we've had the apprentice, where people compete, from a business perspective, we've got the traders, which is not about business, but it is the competition, and there's a bit of mystery to it. So where did this concept of the blocks come out of so, so, and it's 19 seasons in, so it's obviously pretty popular. So tell us a little bit more about the concept and the history

Patrick Adams 9:33
if you can. Yeah, well, I know that they debuted in 2019 Wes. Bergman is the creator and producer of the blocks Wes has, but he's appeared as a real world or as a participant on multiple shows like the real world the challenge House of Villains, worst cooks in America. Of the traders. So he's been on all these different reality shows himself, personally. And then he created the blocks again, you know, back in 2019 when they first debuted. And since then, like you said, we're in season 19 now. So they're releasing, you know, I don't know how many seasons every year, but those seasons are released, and then they they're available to watch on, like the the blocks, Apple apps, in the App Store, their their app, and then also on Facebook, at beta blocks, also on their website. Beta blocks, calm. And then I know they they do submit there. There might be a season or two that shows up on like the Prime Video or different places like that. Season 19, I think, has been submitted, but it's not available yet on anything outside of the website and the App Store, Facebook, so that's where, but the whole season is is now available. It all drops, so you can go in and binge the whole entire season, which is really nice.

Catherine McDonald 11:07
Okay, fantastic. Okay, I'm definitely I haven't watched it yet, so I'm just getting all the inside scoop here first. Okay, so tell us then about your week. So I still need to get a sense of what this competition was about. What were you asked to do? How did it challenge you for the whole week? So tell us a little bit more about

Patrick Adams 11:27
that. Yeah. I mean, you know, I, I've had people ask me, why did i Why did I do this? Like, what was the purpose behind it? And really, for me, and I mentioned, I'm a lifelong learner, and there were definitely some things that I wanted to learn during the week, which I did the networking, you know, all of those types of things were definitely super valuable to me. I also like to challenge myself too, you know. So, like, this was something that I'm, like, I'm a very competitive person. So, you know, going into this, I knew that it was a competition, and so that was kind of a fun spin on it. I knew, I knew that I was going to be learning a lot, but I knew that also that I was going to be in this competitive mode when I arrived there. So you know, throughout the entire week, you're looking for, you know, who, who's on the top of the scoreboard, and you know, what do you need to do to continue to climb and get more points? And so basically, the way that the week, or the way that the competition works, is they that you have a class on a different topic each day, and and they do usually one or two topics a day, depending on the the scenario, or whatever it might be. But you sit in the classroom and you're learning a topic first, then you have, they give you a challenge of some sort with that topic, and then you have to, you you basically have some alone time to answer the challenge using what you learned in the classroom. And then from there, you go into what they call these pods with a coach. And so you go from, you know, 120 entrepreneurs in the classroom, down to probably maybe 10 to 15 in a pod with a coach, and then you have to answer the challenge in front of the coach, and then the coach has some time to kind of quiz you ask you some things, and all of this is happening in front of the other 10 to 15 entrepreneurs that are in the room, so and then you get scored on that. The coach scores you on your understanding of the challenge, your understanding of the information that was taught to you in the classroom and how you applied it to your business to solve the challenge. And then they also score you on how you respond to the coaching. So the coach will ask questions, they will give you some feedback, they will guide you in certain ways, and how you respond to that is also scored as well. So you have to pay attention to, you know, all of these different things that are happening, and make sure that if you're competing, if you're trying to win the competition, you need to try to maximize your points. So you're thinking about, you know, what's the right way to respond, you know, when I'm being coached, and during the classroom time, how I'm I'm learning a new topic. But I'm also thinking about, how can I apply this to my business? And then you're taking the time to actually explain how that particular topic is applied to your business in real world scenarios, right? So all of these things are happening, you're getting points for all of this, and then you come back together towards the end of the day, and basically they they have a win. Winning a winning company from each pod. So each pod announces the winning company that had the highest points for that session. Then those people go up on stage in front of, you know, 150 entrepreneurs, and they do like this rapid fire questions about the topic. So you're, you're up there on stage, you know, 150 people out there, and Wes, or one of the coaches, whoever it is, is just fat, just firing questions at you, and you have to answer them about that day's topic as it applies to your business. And you get scored on that. And then, and then, basically, at the end of the day, they take, you know, you get points for all of these different things. You also, I think you get points for networking. You get point. I mean, there's lots of different ways that you can get points at the end of the day. Then they announce the top three

Patrick Adams 15:59
for that day. I think it's top, yeah, top three, and you get these red jerseys that say blocks are across the back. So the top three get red jerseys, and then the next day, you're wearing the red jerseys all day. So now everybody kind of know you get, like, you got this target on your back. You know who's and in the top three.

Patrick Adams 16:19
And the first, I don't know, the first three or four days, lean solutions was on the top. We were at the top of the leader, or at least within the top three, the majority of those days. And I won't, I won't say where I ended up, but those first few days, I was definitely up there, which was cool, you know, it was, it was a lot of fun. Again, like I said, I'm super competitive so, but there were so many great leaders, entrepreneurs that were there that I got to know on a personal level, just had so much fun with, and, you know, really, really made some lifelong, uh, friendships with too. So it was, overall, it was just such a great experience.

Catherine McDonald 17:05
Yeah, it sounds amazing. So without going, without spoiling too much, because I know people want to, if they, if they're going to watch it, they probably don't want to know everything about it. But just, can you give us a sense of what kind of topics I'm I'm intrigued as to what kind of topics they brought up that, you know, and these were obviously brand new to you. You didn't know about them before, and so you couldn't study for it. You couldn't prepare for it. What, what kind of topics are we talking about?

Patrick Adams 17:29
Yeah, that's a good question. Actually, I again, I am competitive, right? So I did, did do my research ahead of time. There were, you know, whatever. 1617, seasons already out on the block. So I binged all of the seasons before I left and did my studying, right? So I definitely did have a well, I mean, I guess anybody could have done that, but I felt like it gave me a little bit of a leg up, at least in my own personal mind, like I kind of knew what to expect. I knew some of the topics. And, you know, I even they, even in the earlier seasons, they list some of the challenges. And so I even knew now there they were different. They actually, what they do for every season is they probably have a list of, I don't even know how many topics, probably 7080, 100 topics. You know, they only cover maybe eight to 10 of them in a season, and they and they change them every season. So every season it's all different topics. But you know, these could be topics from like inbound marketing, growth hacking, fundraising for your company, business model, scaling, how to scale your operations, having an entrepreneurial mindset, even even, not just entrepreneurial mindset, but how to, how to have a mindset that can work through difficult situations. You know, even as leaders, whether you're an entrepreneur or just a leader in your organization, you know, it's, it's not easy, and sometimes you feel like you're out on an island by yourself, right? And so those are the types of things that they they're they're covering even I mentioned lean startup iterative practices, and how you apply that to a business, or, you know, new product development. How do we apply lean, iterative design tactics to new product development? That was one of the topics.

Catherine McDonald 19:28
Tell me you won that one. Patrick, lead solutions, you have to win that one.

Patrick Adams 19:35
Yeah, no, that was, that was a good one. I really enjoyed that one. It was fun to hear, Wes teach that topic. I know that that's one of his favorite topics. And, you know, just thinking about even even beta blocks itself, he he talked about how the startup for beta blocks and how, you know, you want to start with a a. Um, you know, a small product, something that you you don't put a lot of time effort into something that you can just test very quickly and learn as much as you can in the beginning, before you pour all this time, attention, money, resources into it. But how do you start with this minimal viable product, and then iteratively, you know, reflect, adjust, experiment, and just continue that process as you're growing and developing at the least amount of a resource input as possible. And so, you know, he talked about that with

Patrick Adams 20:40
businesses, whether you're doing that to start a business, or whether you're doing that to experiment with a product. And you know, before you spend all this time developing this huge

Patrick Adams 20:52
learning platform with all these topics, you should probably first find out if anyone's even going to be interested in learning about those topics, right? So you know, just different tactics on how you can experiment to see, like, is this something that's going to be valuable for my for my customers, or is it not something that they're even interested in? So yeah, that was a really great topic for me.

Catherine McDonald 21:16
Massive amounts of learning, I'd say even, I mean, you never know at all. You never and every day, every week, things are changing. The world is changing and staying on top of all these topics. And I know that's a lot to cram into one week, but it sounds like the learning was amazing, which is obviously, you know, big part of why you signed up so well done. That sounds awesome. Like, really, really, really fun. And tell me then, okay, if you think about your whole week, you obviously, as you said, made connections. You engaged in all of these activities. What were your biggest couple of takeaways from the whole thing in terms of learning for yourself or for your own company?

Patrick Adams 21:56
Yeah, that's a great question. I will say that probably the number one, most important thing that I learned was when I was when, when. So in our world, for many of you that are listening in right now, you're probably a lean practitioner, a lean consultant, a leader who understands lean mindset practices. So you know the lingo right? A lot of times when I when I'm working with my clients, when I'm coaching someone, whatever it might be, they know the lingo. They understand what we do. But anyone that's outside of the lean world does not understand those words. And sometimes I have a tendency to use very complex terms, or, you know, niche words that are very specific to the Toyota Production System, or, you know, Japanese words or thing, you know, just very, very very my, you know, I'm a process engineer, so I think very things are very complex for me. So anyways, you know, first day, I'm explaining to everyone what I do, and people are confused like and I realized right away, in fact, one of the coaches said to me, I'm not going to cuss, but he used a cuss word. He said, he said, I don't know what the f you do like, and it was like an eye opening moment for me, like, how do I ever break into how do we get others outside of the lean community, outside of, you know, the toy? How do we get others to understand what we do and how important it is for their business and how it can be effective and help them to be successful in what they do? If, if I can't get them to understand what it is that I do, then how will I ever be able to help them? And so that was probably it was day one or day two, when I tried to pitch my business, and the coaches were like, You got to clean this up. It's got to be simpler. And so I went from a very complex kind of explanation of my business to a very simple, you know, one liner of what I do. And even then, even then, I remember explaining what I do, as you know, we're a training and consulting firm that helps leaders eliminate waste in their processes, and even that someone in the in the audience was like, You mean, like, trash, like, what? Like when you say waste, you're talking like, like, no, no, no. Like, like, wasteful processes. And so again, I had to think through that again and go, Okay, I have to, I got to refine this to the point where it's very simple, very clear, so that anyone can understand what it is that we do. So I would say that was probably a huge takeaway for me, really good

Catherine McDonald 24:57
takeaway. I mean, I think it's a kind of a common problem. Right across our industry with lean and it has been a barrier, for sure, for a lot of companies who, I suppose want to go down that road, but don't know it, don't trust it. So and then did with that takeaway, did you make any changes as a result? Or are you in the process of making any changes? Then,

Patrick Adams 25:20
yeah, I mean, I definitely did, and I continue to, as a, you know, a lot of what I did, I actually have a black book that I had with me the entire week that I took crazy amount of notes in. And our team, when I got back, we spent the next couple months just going through that black book. And as a team, you know, especially like our marketing manager Liz and I like really going through and really re defining how we express what we do and the value that we provide to our customers. And it's been an ongoing process, you know, we continue to think about that and challenge ourselves. You know, even for the Lean Solution Summit, how do we? How do we tap into individuals that do not know anything about Lean? Have never heard about Lean before, but we know that the principles, the tools, the practices, the mindset, can be valuable for them if they knew it, if they understood it, if they could apply it. So how do we get them to come to the summit and learn about what we do? And even when they come to the summit, is it going to be way over their head, you know? So, you know, off even we've had conversations about offering like basic, you know, basic class, a basic lean class prior to the summit, or, you know, an intro to the terminology, or something, you know, just to help people that are not in our world really understand what it is that we do and how it can apply to their business.

Catherine McDonald 26:53
Wow. Okay, really good takeaways. That's excellent, Patrick. And, okay, great. So then you mentioned you had you were up against other people, so you networked, and you met lots of these people. Hopefully, you didn't fight too much over the course of the week. Was there a bit of tension ever? Was it a bit like that any of the time? Or was it all everyone's very nice and polite?

Patrick Adams 27:17
Um, I think, I think it was. It was all for fun. I mean, yes, there was a cash prize at the end, which I think, you know, there people were interested in, but realistically, everyone was there to learn, and everyone was so supportive. Everyone was helping each other out there. There was never a point where I felt like, you know, like on some reality TV shows that you watch like it's like, holy cow, either they're talking behind each other's backs and they're backstabbing, and none of that was happening at all. It wasn't, you know, that way. But I think there were a couple times where they interviewed me, you know, behind stage, and they kind of tried to push a little bit of that, like, maybe in a fun way, I don't know, but, you know, like asking questions, like, you know, who's, who's the, who's the person to to, you know, go after, who do you think is going to win tonight? Or who you know? So they kind of tried to prompt a little bit of that. And you know, I haven't, I haven't gone through all the shows yet, so who knows, maybe someone was talking about me behind my back. I don't know. We'll see when I get through each one of the episodes.

Catherine McDonald 28:35
Yeah, but I'm sure there were moments where it wasn't easy. You're being filmed, you have to make important decisions. I mean, you're under pressure. I'm sure it wasn't easy all the time to, you know, maintain composure, to be nice to each other all the time in the traditional nice sense. I'm sure there was times where, you know, in any competition, it gets a little bit rough and tumble, but that's that's fairly normal. So, yeah, yeah, for sure, yeah. So, okay, and then of the people you met, were there some good connections there, who in particular stood out to you from your, I suppose, opponents?

Patrick Adams 29:15
Yeah, that's a that's a good question. I met a ton of great people, you know, like I said, there were, there were people that were from all different industries. So, you know, there wasn't necessarily, I think there were a few other consultants or coaches that were,

Patrick Adams 29:40
you know, in a similar industry as mine, so obviously, like conversations with them were great, because we were kind of bouncing ideas off of each other and really, even even helping each other out with some different things. You know, how do you approach this? Or how did you answer this challenge? Or how, you know, what does your marketing look like? So. There were some good conversations in that way. I made some, some good friends, some, some, some individuals that, you know, I've stayed connected with, even, even done some business or, or, you know, had conversations about the possibility of business in the future. So from that aspect, it was super valuable. You know, I know, I know there's individuals in different places around the US that if I end up there, I'll definitely look them up and and try to connect with them for coffee or lunch or whatever it might be.

Catherine McDonald 30:33
So, yeah, oh, that's really great. Yeah, that's a big part of it.

Patrick Adams 30:37
Oh, yeah, no, it was great, for sure.

Catherine McDonald 30:41
And was there anything in terms of when the cameras weren't rolling? Is there anything that you can tell us, any little sneaky thing stories you can tell us that the cameras might

Patrick Adams 30:53
have missed? Hmm, Ooh, good question. Well, I'm trying to think here, you know, after so they had a lot of different activities set up. Like I said, the cameras were rolling all the time. So, you know, they had a, like, an a fire pit outside, where everybody would go out and kind of hang out and chat and that that was a lot of fun, getting to know people on a more of a personal level. I mean, you know, having conversations even about like, nonprofit organizations that people support and, you know, giving back. And what you know as a business owner, how important it is that we have gratitude, not not just that we're, you know, work, work, work, push, push, push, sell, sell, but stopping to reflect and think and be thankful for, you know, what we've been able to achieve, what we have. Because, you know, entrepreneurship can be difficult. It can be lonely, and so I think that was super valuable for me, having some of those conversations, learning about other businesses too. I mean, you know, there's so many different great ideas out there that are being developed into successful businesses, and I was able to learn about some of those, you know, just the, the one that comes to mind is the the he expressed, he explained his business as the the worm. What did he say? The worm, worm shit was his thing, and he, he was a fertilizer business. But they, they grow worms, and use the worm theses to fertilize for farmers. And I'm like, that's pretty cool. Never, never realized that was a business, no, but you know that there's just so many different businesses that were represented there. It was just cool to learn from every you know, learn all the different businesses out there. Great.

Catherine McDonald 32:59
Okay, good stuff. You must have been tired at the end of that week.

Patrick Adams 33:02
Oh, yeah, that, that was the thing. Like, honestly, I went into it like I said, I was very, I'm a very competitive person, so day one, two and three, like, I am 100% fully in not worried about sleep. Like, just studying, you know, really trying to make sure that I'm on point. Well, honestly, By day three, my my brain started to shut down. I mean, I was so exhausted from the just the the way that the show is set up, where you're, you're being fed all this information, you know, you're, you're like, you're just like, you're drinking from a fire hose. You're getting so much information in such a short period. But you're not just learning about it. Then you're then you go from taking it all in to then thinking about, okay, now how do I take these things and actually apply them to my business? So now you're thinking about it that way, then you're presenting it, and then you're getting coaching. So now you got this back and forth going on and again. By the end of day three, towards the end of the day, I could just feel myself just so drained, and I was, I was having a hard time even thinking. I remember them asking me a question behind stage on the cameras, and I whether or not this shows up, I don't know, but I literally was like, I can't even answer this question right now. Like, my I don't even, it's a simple question, but my mind is just not working right now. Like, I couldn't. I was just so exhausted. So, yeah, but it was, it was worth it, though it was

Catherine McDonald 34:34
fourth term. I mean, I don't, I think a lot of the time, you know, when we become business owners, and, you know, we're we've worked hard on our business, we've gone and done all the qualifications, and now we're managing people and teams. And I think it's really important to put yourself in a position where you are challenging yourself and you're learning, and a lot of the time we don't have the time to sign up to these big intensive PhDs or Master's course. Resources, you know, which would challenge us, but they simply take too much time. But something like that is an amazing way to just challenge yourself in the short term, maybe wreck yourself for a week, but come out the other side with huge learning, huge development in self awareness, with all the feedback and the coaching, and you recover quite quickly from a week, you know, let's face it, so just sounds like a really, really great thing to do and well done. It's not easy putting yourself out there in front of the whole world for them to also watch. You think that's pressure. So sounds amazing. Well done. I can't wait

Patrick Adams 35:40
to watch a project. I'm excited that the that just even for myself, going back through and watching the episodes I, you know, starting to watch them, it's bringing me back. And even thinking about, like, Oh man, I totally like, that's one thing that I didn't, that that I remember learning and saying I need to bring back and apply that I didn't. So even now, as I'm going through it, I'm learning things, and, you know, wanting to apply them to my business. So for anyone out there that is interested, you know, that is running your own business, or even, even if you know, you're just interested in what it takes to run a business, or, you know, how to, how to story tell, you know, lean startup practices, that mindset piece. I mean, all of those things are, are talked about in each of the episodes. And I think it's definitely valuable and worth, worth watching. So

Catherine McDonald 36:35
good, good. So for any Patrick Adams fans out there, which I know you have tons and tons of, and remind us. Pat again, where we know you do. You have so many, I mean, you do. So many people have read your book, so many people have come to your summits, so many people will want to watch you on this show. And obviously the show itself sounds amazing as well. So just remind us one last time where we can access the show and watch it.

Patrick Adams 36:58
You're too. Kind. Catherine, I appreciate it. No the the so currently it's available on you know, you can go to Apple App Store, you can search the blocks, which is B, l, o, x, and you can find the app itself, and that all the seasons are on there. So you season 19 is the latest one that dropped. You can go to Facebook, and you can search beta blocks, so at B, E T, A, B, L O X, and it should come up with their Facebook page, you'll be able to find it there. And then the other thing you can do is you can go to their website, beta blocks.com, B, E T, A, B, L O x.com, and you can find it there. I'm sure we can drop that probably into the show notes, and that way everybody can find it there as well.

Catherine McDonald 37:45
Yeah, brilliant, let's do that. Okay, Patrick, I will let you go. It's been amazing talking to you and catching up, and I will see you again, I'm sure in a couple of weeks for our next episode of the lean solutions podcast. Thanks for listening, everyone, and we will see you next time. Thanks, Catherine, you

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