Welcome back to The Inspired
Living with Auto Immunity podcast.
I'm your host, Julie Michaelson, and today
we're joined by James Schmactenberger,
co-founder and CEO of their Neurohacker
Collective, a company focused on making
groundbreaking products for health and
wellbeing through complex systems science.
James brings his lifelong focus on using
business and innovation to affect large
scale change for the benefit of humanity.
Today's conversation focuses on
senescent cells or zombie cells,
and how using SY Alytics may be the
anti-aging key you are looking for.
James, welcome to the podcast.
Thank you.
It's a delight to be here,
I would love for you to share
a little bit of your story with
people before I hit record.
I was kind of, well, to me you're
a celebrity . But, but I, I want
people to really kind of just get an
idea of how you got to be making the
contribution you are and, and what, you
know, what brought you to this world.
Yeah, yeah.
No, absolutely.
And it's funny cause you know,
there's of course so many different
parts to the story, right?
But guess I'll just say like the
holistic medicine has been kind of
a life passion for me from very,
very young My, my mom has a disease
called interstitial cystitis, and
she had done, she had participated
in a drug trial when I was like five
years old, and it nearly killed her.
And she ended up in the hospital
for I think, like three months.
And, you know, was very close to
death, even if she was gonna recover,
was never supposed to walk again.
And like she.
Pro ice skater, you know, prior to this.
And so, I mean, obviously huge contrast.
And when she was in the hospital
somebody had given her a book on Iveta
medicine and she had nothing else to
do, so she devoured the book, ended up
finding solutions and, you know, kind
of eventually left the hospital and
went down this natural health track.
Got.
You know, dramatically better and a year
later was competing in ice shows again.
And so like that was a kind of key
turning point for I think me and
my whole family, where it was like,
okay, medicine in this traditional
form has incredible applications and.
It deeply lacks in some key areas.
And taking a more cutting edge,
more alternative kind of approach
can oftentimes do as much, if
not more than a path you can.
So that, I mean, really set
a tone for the rest of life.
But I think, you know, as, as
it pertains kind of like to
why, why narrow hacker, right?
Why do we start Poly?
That story really was.
When, So when I was 18, I was in
school at a vocational college studying
alternative medicine and psychology.
And right around the time I was
graduating, the owner of the
school, the founder of the school
had said he wanted to semiretired.
Cause I wanted to teach, but he didn't
want to run the business anymore.
So in my 18 year old hub, I
was like, Oh, I can do this.
So I went out and raised money,
which God knows why anyone
gave me money at that age.
And I bought the.
And it was phenomenal.
I was like incredibly
passionate about the work.
It was definitely what I wanted to be
doing with my life, but I had no skills.
Like I didn't even know
how to balance a checkbook.
So here I am all of a sudden like
18 year old kid doesn't know didly
and now I'm running a school.
And so I made up for the lack
of skill with just pure work.
And, you know, 20, 22 hour days,
take a short nap at my desk.
What's that?
the American Dream.
Exactly.
I think we might need
to update that dream.
Yeah.
There is a better way.
Heads neuro, hacker,
it, it, it definitely took me some
years to learn it, but I, I do not
recommend pushing that hard, even at
that age where you're almost bionic.
But
or think you are.
Yeah.
Yeah, at least think you are.
But yeah, so you know, I, after
about three years of just ridiculous
workload at 21, I had severe burnout.
And I was like, I started
having massive brain fog.
My memory stopped working.
I started going into depression, which
I was doing this work that I was deeply
passionate about, and I was depressed.
So then I started having an
existential breakdown, like
couldn't make sense of life.
So I went on my healing journey.
And you know, being in the field, I
was fortunate to get exposed to a bunch
of things and try all kinds of stuff.
But there was one therapy
particularly that.
Changed my world.
And it, it was, I ended up going
down to Mexico and doing this sort of
experimental intravenous therapy that
at the time I had no idea what it was.
Later on, I realized it was high dose in
ad and a combination of a bunch of acids.
But I did three days of this drip for like
nine hours a day, and it changed everyth.
And not in like a subtle way.
Right.
And f I mean, I went in depressed,
unable to think, unable to
retain thoughts and coming out I.
Not only had all of my cognitive
function back, but I was
experiencing a sense of clarity
that I had never experienced before.
I had a sense of like capacity
and motivation that was unlike
anything that I had ever felt.
And then the thing that was super
remarkable for me was my sense
of empathy shot through the roof.
And it, it became the situational
where it was like I couldn't think
about what I wanted to do in the world
and not immediately be aware of the
implications of that on the rest of
the world and the people around me.
And so as I was sitting there, I was
like, Holy shit, what would happen
if this became available at scale?
Right?
If we could build something that would
allow, you know, hundreds of thousands,
millions of people to become drastically
more intelligent, more confident, more
capable, but also more empathetic.
So, They had an intrinsic motive
to use that competency and that
intelligence, not only for personal
gain, but for the greater good.
Like, ah,
World changing.
so this was, this was the concept, right?
And initially I actually tried
to partner with the doctor
who created that IV therapy.
We were gonna open clinics.
Unfortunately, like three weeks into
that project, he became super ill
and passed away and his research
went away with, So here I was with
this beautiful vision and no path.
And so then I spent several years while,
you know, running other businesses,
new other things, interviewing all the
top neuroscientists, neurobiologists,
chemists, formulators, and everyone was
like, Yeah, this is a great concept.
It's not doable.
And and I just couldn't let it go.
Right.
Thank you , for not letting it go.
Yeah, so it was, it took me a long time,
but eventually I ended up convincing
my brother to partner with me and I had
tried for years and he kept saying no.
But he's, you know, a lot of people
have probably seen him on podcasts.
But he's one of the rare geniuses
of the world and his background
is in complex system science.
And I knew that if we could apply
complex system science to the study of
physiology, we could do things that the
world had sort of never seen before in
terms of healing and health optimization.
And so eventually he agreed to partner.
We dove into this like two year full on
r and d process, both sort of developing.
Scientific model based on complex system
science but also developing the first
product, which was quality, right?
Our broad spectrum cognitive enhancement.
And that was essentially the, the
birth of Neurohacker was A, you
know, lofty vision, some semblance
of tenacity that eventually panned
out and, and seen amount of research.
And, you know, luckily it's, it's been a
pretty extraordinary ride and process and,
you know, given the opportunity to help a
lot of people and hopefully more to come.
Which is, is incredible.
I was telling you before we started,
I have been a, a long time fan of the
company, an early adopter, if you will.
And I, I love.
I always say my, my start in biohacking
that led me to, to functional medicine,
you know, the, the two worlds are,
they really are, to me, ideal.
Is it, It's both, right?
The best functional medicine docs
are pulling from biohacking, and if
you're biohacking properly, you're
utilizing functional medicine.
And so there's a synergy there.
And so I love when I first
found Colia the mind.
I did, other than my group of biohacker.
Like I didn't know anybody else taking it.
I did, you know, nobody
else had heard of it.
And, and so I love, now you
know, how the company has grown.
And I, you have, I I would love to do
an interview for each of the products.
I did share, you know, I am a, I am,
not only do I love the contribution
that the company is making by.
Truly creating these products,
you know, with not even just the,
the science you pull together.
But.
Your process of getting stuff to market
and, and testing and, and you do have
a group of us that are well, we're
willing to, to be Guinea pigs and try,
there's a trust level there so that
you guys can tweak and continue to
improve your products which is amazing.
We're gonna jump, So I say anybody
who's like, you know, what is this
Neuro Hucker collective and what is Pia?
Look it up.
I just learned.
From a presentation this past weekend,
I, I never even thought about it,
like, what is the definition of Lia?
And I was like, Oh, this
makes so much sense.
If somebody wants to know, well,
like, how does a neutropic and a sleep
enhancer and a lytic all tie together?
Like, how is this one company?
But if you go back to colia,
this, which is the experiential
quality, Of what is like to be you.
It's like.
This is it, right?
Like it's best mind, but you know, this
is so, so thank you, thank you, thank you
from the bottom of my heart for what you
guys are doing and how you're doing it.
And I want to jump into, This, you know,
your newest product which I really do.
I, I, for me, obviously your first
product changed my life because
I still, When did that come out?
I don't even know how many,
how long I've been taking it.
Quality of mind was our first one,
and that came out in late 2016.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Entry into the world.
Yeah, it's been a little bit now.
Yeah.
And, and so, you know,
that's a commitment.
So I've, I've been, you know,
using that ever, ever since then.
But I, I real so that, you know,
I know each, each product has
the ability to change your life.
You know, if I, and I always say,
you know, it all comes down to if
we're sleeping better, that quality
of sleep, getting your mind to work.
But I'm really.
Because of the, more of the, even
the functional medicine piece.
Excited about your latest and greatest.
So let's talk a little bit about SCE
essence and SY Analytics and what this is.
Why are we even talking about it on
an, an autoimmunity targeted podcast?
You know, why does, you know?
Cause you're, you don't make
products for three people.
You know, it, it's really something
that can enhance everybody's.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, it's interesting cause right,
this whole area of cellular in essence
like is so new people, I mean, most
people that are listening right
now have probably never even heard
That they won't even know.
So let's even, let's start right there.
What is sin Essence?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So basically, Healthy cells are
supposed to be able to continue
to divide and reproduce, right?
And then once they get to a point
where they no longer have the ability
to continue to divide and reproduce,
then they're supposed to die off.
Right?
That's a process called apoptosis and.
That's how the body sort
of operates healthy.
But what ends up happening as we age
and as we have more stressors and
poor nutrition and, you know, various
different things, is that oftentimes
cells will become what's known as
senescent or like commonly it's
referred to as zombie cells, right?
And what, mm-hmm.
me is like the perfect.
For people to understand
when you say zombie cells,
Yeah, I mean, it makes perfect
sense when you actually get to
understand how it works, right?
So basically a cell will get to a place
where it's no longer able to divide
and reproduce, but it doesn't die off.
And so it's sort of alive, but
it's not really doing anything.
It no longer is able to do much
in the way of energy output.
It doesn't have a lot of the beneficial.
Traits that a cell normally does.
So it's just sort of pseudo
living, taking up resources.
But part of why it's also called a
zombie cell is it's not, It's not
just the problem of it taking up
resources and not providing benefit.
It's also that it AITs certain
proteins that turn the other cells
around them into esent cells.
So in the same way that a zombie
will try to eat your brains and
it turns you into a zombie, right?
These esent cells emit these chemicals,
which then turn other ones into it,
and that whole process drastically
speeds up the aging process.
And so this is essentially what you
know, cellular esce is, and in the
term sen lytic, which we'll be talking
about a little bit, are the compounds
that are researched for being able
to kill off esent cells, right?
Being able to allow them to actually
finish their life cycle and die
off and make space for new healthy
cells to be able to reproduce.
Which I, and I, I, again, I love the
like, simple, I'm not a scientist . And so
I'm not either.
I just play one on
Yeah, when I, when I, and I'm, I
know, I'm saying, I always say that
I'm not a doctor and I don't play
one on tv, . But if you, if you think
of, you know, it's a cleanup, right?
Like this is what we're talking about.
And, and I like that you, you know,
To, to take the zombie thing all
the way that it's not joke, cuz
I always kind of thought of it.
And so I learned a lot at the quality
of presentation, the, this last weekend
because I always thought of it kind
of as just the first piece, right?
I know we, you know, we get these
esent cells and we, we want them
gone, but they're not dying off.
They're taking resources.
I think of it.
You know, I have a lot of house
plants and I love to garden
and, and so the pruning right?
We wanna get rid of those dead and dying
leaves so that the, the rest of the
plant is, is getting the good stuff.
But then when you understand this
kind of it thing, I think of it
as like building a cellular army.
We don't want, we don't want more
and more of ourselves just hanging
out, you know, grabbing buddies.
And I, I, I want to just for
the audience's sake cuz some
people may think like, anti, I'm
not interested in anti-aging.
Like, I just wanna feel well, I say this
all the time to me the things we think of,
the negative pieces of what we think of
as aging is all, in my opinion, my humble
just said, I'm not a scientist or a doctor
But it's all inflammation.
That's why we, you know, my
favorite word is inflammaging.
And I, I wish I could figure out who
actually coined it, cuz I can't, like,
I've never been able to find out who the
first person was to say that in public.
And to me, autoimmunity is just
further down the spectrum on
that expression of inflammation.
And so by focusing anything we can do,
To reduce inflammation to, you know, help
reverse the aging process or add some
grace to it is also the same things we
need to be doing to improve our autoimmune
symptoms and, and live fuller lives.
I mean, this is sort of the
beauty of the, the domain of
like anti-aging research, right?
Which this scene alytics fall squarely
within that is, it's not just about.
It's not anti-aging exclusively
in the ways that people typically
think about that, which is either
how do you live longer or how do
you look better for longer, right?
Like, these are both key things.
And of course they're,
they're good goals to pursue.
in a, in a way, but there's the piece
of, I, my, the thing that fell outta
my mouth on a podcast that I was
like, Oh, I'm writing that down, is
I, I wanna live young until I die.
Like I, honestly, it's not about
used to be about how long I live, cuz
I didn't think I'd live to see 50.
Now that I'm 53 and I feel younger
than I did at 34, like, I just
wanna live like this until I'm done.
Like, that's the, That's what we're
talking about is that quality of life.
Yeah, I mean, people get so
focused on lifespan, right?
How many years you're on the
planet, and that's awesome.
But like what we tend to focus more on is
what we refer to as health span, right?
How many years are you on the
planet and thriving in health?
Because even if we can develop
technologies that allow for you to add,
you know, 5, 10, 20 years to your life,
but those last years are bedridden in
pain, that's not actually a goal that
most people are that attracted to.
No.
Nor should
we.
be
Add and ears that are thriving
health or, you know, don't
even worry about adding ears.
Just improve the quality of life
during the time that you're here.
And the beauty of so much of the stuff in
the anti-aging space is like a lot of that
work is being done at the cellular level.
Right.
That's one of the key things here
in cellular senescence, right?
So when you're improving health at
the cellular level, you're essentially
going to improve everything because it
is like the fundamental building block.
And so, yes, there's of course
things you wanna focus on
depending on what your needs and
conditions are to address specific.
Symptoms to address
specific parts of the body.
But when you can improve cellular
health overall, there's just this
net net benefit across everything.
You feel better, you have more
energy, more clarity of thinking.
You heal faster.
Like virtually
become a better human, which
is, goes back to your story
of, and know you're empathetic.
You're, it's a, it becomes
about, And not just survival.
And, and so, you know, that's why
we're having this conversation today.
I'm, I'm excited about.
So let's talk a little bit about
SY Analytics and, and, and talk
about how this is different, Right?
I, I just said I've been using your
first product since I found it, which
I believe was right away in 2016.
Definitely by 2017, but I, I
think it might have been 2016.
I take that on a regular basis.
And so let's kind of
talk about this cycle of.
You know, guide us through the, this
amazing kind of cutting edge being
involved in the anti-aging world.
You know, there are, this is,
it's new, but it's not new, right?
Like this, this idea.
And there are prescriptions
that have been used.
There are what's new is that you're,
this is accessible and, and effective
and so, People can take charge.
I'm all about giving, giving,
creating power, right?
Empowering people.
So let's talk about the,
the actual product and.
Kind of the, not the, the,
the science behind it because
we don't have enough time.
And I don't know if I have the,
well, I do have the brain power.
I took my mind this morning.
But you know what, it's because it
is, it's a very, it's very different.
And I think that the way you guys help
us understand the, like, okay, why
we're taking it and then how it works.
Is it, it that just makes sense.
Yeah.
So I mean, I guess like if we
dive in, there's So cellular in
essence, is one of what's known
as the hallmarks of aging, right?
There's, there's nine hallmarks of
aging, and these are like the key
areas that cause the aging process.
And there's extensive research
going into all of them.
Some, you know, the world
understands better than others.
Some we have more tools to be
able to affect than others.
But things like, so like
cellular essence is one of them.
Mitochondrial function is one of them.
Stem cell exhaustion is one of them.
Telomere length, right?
So there, there's all
these different hallmarks.
There's like, for Neurohacker, there's two
primary ones that we've dod deeply into
so far, which is cellular, senescence,
and mitochondrial function, right?
So we have another product called
Quality of Life, which is this
just phenomenal mitochondrial
function product helps to improve.
Cellular energy output, cellular
metabolism dramatically boosts an ad
levels like all kinds of cool stuff.
As we move into cellulars essence,
part of what makes this domain so
exciting is it's ridiculously new.
And so like this is one of the first
times in history where there's something
available to actually have an impact here.
So, Like the field of Esce has been
researched for several decades now.
Like we've known that these
esent cells exist and we've
known that they cause problems.
But that was kind of the extent of what
the research community understood, and
there was never this understanding of,
well, anything can be done about it.
And that was some really breakthrough
research that only happened in 2015.
Right.
So this is super recent.
yeah.
It was predominantly from Mayo Clinic
and from scripts where they began using
actually it was a drug trial with a drug
called the stib, which is cancer drug.
But what they found was that when
they were giving patients the stib and
then biopsying the tissues, they were
starting to see dramatically less.
Esent cells.
And then there started to be
some other research where they
were using dasatinib and corin to
supplement that a lot of people
probably have some familiarity with.
And then you saw, you know,
an even greater decrease.
And so it's, it's only in the
last, what is it, seven years,
that there was any awareness
that something could be done and.
Dasatinib definitely shows really
promising results in this area, but
it's also a pretty harsh drug that has
serious consequences, and so that's
where, you know, then the next stage of
research started to began of, well, what
else could mimic some of these effects?
And do it with creating all the
benefit, but without creating harm.
Right.
And so then there started to be some
studies with a number of other compounds,
but particularly the two most research,
most known are Cetin and Corin.
And these are both, you know, somewhat
commonly available supplements.
And you know, all coming from plant
extracts that show drastic decreases in
the amount of esent cells in the body.
And then where the research has
continued to evolve, and this is, you
know, where we've been able to do some
really, really interesting things is.
So there's different, there's esent cells
in all of the different types of tissue
in the body, and this is something that
a lot of the research community isn't
actually even paying attention to yet.
But you have esent cells in, you know,
skin tissue and in muscle tissue,
and different compounds end up being
able to kill off cells in different
kinds of tissues more effectively.
So, You know, there's, there's really
not that much on the market right now.
Around r are usually only one or two
ingredients, and so they're effective,
but they're predominantly killing esent
cells in particular tissue types and
not necessarily addressing whole body.
And this is, as you know, like
our approach is this whole
systems's approach, right?
We're always looking to not just affect
one or two narrow things, but how
do we do this whole system upgrade?
So we did this deep dive into research
and found all of the compounds that
had really meaningful backing for
being able to address cells and
all the different tissues and then
put them all together, , right?
And
What a concept
Yeah, and I mean, and I understand
why a lot of companies don't
do it, cuz I mean, it does take
dramatically more hours of research.
And you know, as you start
using more ingredients, it's
more expensive to produce.
It's.
More complicated to actually
run through machinery.
There's, there's lots of challenges,
but for us, the goal has always been
how do we make the very best thing that
can exist and we'll figure out how to
address the difficulties in getting there.
And so it's just become this
phenomenal, phenomenal product where
people are showing tremendous benefit
in really short periods of time.
Like kind of remarkably simple.
Which is amazing and
I.
Oh, we had a little,
Yeah, I mean we, you know, this
product's only been, I think three.
Are we, Do we
No, we're good.
We're good.
We're back.
So the product just is new.
you know.
Yeah, so the etic product is quite new.
It's only been out three months or so.
So we're still continuing to do all
kinds of follow up studies, but we did
one study initially that was really
compelling where, so one of the key
areas where CYS and Cells will show up,
that people will notice is joint health.
Right.
As you start to have this build up
of, of these unhealthy ENT cells, it
tends to create things like, Joints,
stiffness, pain, lack of mobility.
So we, we did a study on that
specifically, and what we found
was over the course of people doing
this product three cycles we found
a 53% decrease in joint discomfort.
And a 51% decrease in
difficulty doing regular tasks.
And that's dramatic, right?
Like cuz I mean, this was a
very short period of time.
We're talking under three months.
And you know, for a lot of the
people that were involved in the
study, like the challenges they
had were fairly significant.
And all of a sudden now
there's half of that.
Which is amazing.
This was a group in their seventies?
Yes.
It, it ranged.
Like with all of our studies,
we, we generally try to get a
pretty healthy range of both, you
know, age, gender, everything.
But yes, in this one we did
air a little bit on the older
side cuz that's where people
get your symptoms.
noticeable effects.
Yeah.
And that's something I wanna, I, I'm
always, I'm very big on, you know, markers
and tests where you can, and, and you,
you mentioned it when you're talking about
the earlier, you know how the studying
Right now to truly see, you know, what's
going on with the cells, you're talking
biopsies is, nobody's gonna be going in.
Oh, I'm trying this new supplement and I'm
gonna go in and get biopsied every three
to six months to see what it's doing.
But the remarkable thing is, as
you mentioned already, you know,
just the improvement and in quality
of life and hitting so it is,
is noticeable for, for people.
You mentioned cycles, and I, I think
this is so important to talk about this.
This is something that I think a lot
of people aren't used to as far as how,
how you use the product effectively,
That a few minutes ago when you
talked about pruning, right?
So with most supplements, people
are used to the idea that you
take them all the time, right?
You take 'em every day or you
take 'em a few days a week.
But when it comes to addressing
esent cells, the research actually
shows that the best way to address
them is what's often referred to
as the hit and run approach, right?
You do a large amount
of this lytic compound.
For a very short period of time, and then
you take a break and then you do it again.
Right?
So the lytic product we developed is,
it's essentially like a cellular cleanse.
You do it two days on and then
wait a month and then do it again.
And it, it's very much like
that pruning process, right?
Like if you had.
Plant that had some
yellow or dying leaves.
If you were to actually go and prune
it every single day for just a little
tiny bit, it would actually take up way
more resources from the plant and be
counterproductive versus allowing a little
bit of time to pass for more yellowing.
And then you go and
you prune those leaves.
And so it's that exact same
process when you're talking
about clearing out esent cells.
And I think this is one of the reasons
people have also liked the product.
Actually, as you and I were talking about
before the interview started, so many
people struggle with consistency, right?
You wanna take supplements, you
know they're going to have benefit,
but you know, do you build them
into your lifestyle and remember
to actually do it every day?
And so one of the cool things
with this analytic is you
don't actually have to, right?
You take it two days and then you're off
for a month and then you take it again.
And that's sort of like, that's
the recommended approach.
Some people will wait longer.
It obviously depends.
You know how much cellular, in
essence you think you have built up,
how important it is to work on it.
You can do two days and then wait three
months, but the sort of ideal is this
sort of like monthly cellular detox.
Yeah.
Which is also, you know, that's the coach
in me is like, that works on the calendar.
You know, my, my dogs
get an, an injection.
I give them a supplement for their
joints once a month, you know, so, The
beginning of the month, I'm already
thinking like, Oh, this will go . You
know, this will be my beginning to pay
your mortgage and , take your lytic.
Which I love.
One question that comes up a lot.
I know because I got to listen
to the questions in the, in the
presentation last week is about,
you know, additional behaviors or
lifestyle adjustments of like, really
is this gonna work if I'm just.
Taking the supplements, Is there
other things people should be doing
to improve results or, you know, have
in mind of like, okay, if, if we're
now aware, like we really want this
cellular clean out and optimization,
what else should we be doing?
Right.
So I mean, absolutely there's,
there's key lifestyle factors, right?
Like even in the word supplement,
it means supplemental, right?
It is.
It is to be added on top of other things.
It is not to fundamentally
So you don't like take the
Big Mac and then take this
analytic and eat the Big Mac.
You don't take a Big Mac,
I guess you eat it I would.
It would be forced upon me, but, so it's
. It's not something that's gonna make up
for an unhealthy lifestyle necessarily
No, I mean, to certain extent, the right
supplementation can offset damage that
you're doing from bad lifestyle habits.
And it's not the goal, right?
The goal is invest in yourself, invest
in happiness, in health and vitality.
Do the right lifestyle things,
and then add the right kinds of
supplementations and technologies on
top of that for even better effect.
So yeah, I mean, I mean, across the board
the most important things that people
can generally do for health is good
quality sleep, good diet, good exercise.
And in this regard, it
is very similar, right?
Quality sleep is one of the things that's
most readily gonna support the natural
ability to clear out senescent cells.
Cause the, I mean, there's different
ways it happens, but primarily
it's an immune function, right?
The immune system is designed to kill
off senescent cells, but when it's
overly taxed, it stops having the ability
to do that as effectively as we know.
Sleep has a massive
impact on immune function.
And then diet is key, and
particularly in this area.
I mean there are certain types
of foods, things that are high in
polyphenols that are gonna be really
good, but one of the keys here
is actually intermittent fasting.
Right.
Having extended periods of time where
you're not taking in calories is one
of the things that's going to help
trigger, well, both agy, but also the
ability to clear up cellular in essence.
So from a lifestyle perspective,
key things would be, yeah, eat, eat
healthy foods high in polyphenols.
So that largely means.
Not overly processed and
correct colorful things.
And if you can and are willing
to experiment with intermittent
fasting and get your sleep dialed in
And I do look at this as such an
up level as somebody who focuses on
all of those things, not only in my
life, but in the life of my clients.
The intermittent fasting really
for me changed my life, and
that's a whole nother podcast.
But it was a key piece and,
and so, and one of the.
Reasons, I think fasting, whether it's,
you know, a fast, fast or having some
kind of intermittent fasting in your
life it is for, you know, aji and,
and I think that there's, where just
experientially I see that direct relation
to reducing inflammation is remarkable.
And so I look.
Lytic is like, Oh my gosh,
you know, here's an up level.
And the beauty is scientifically,
even if you ha if you've not, you
don't practice intermittent fasting.
I mean, this, again,
it's not an either or.
Ideally it's an and, but
you're still gonna get benefit.
It's not like you have
to take it and fast.
You're we're just talking about, you
know, ways to be supporting the body.
Ideal.
Yeah, I mean that, that's sort of an
ideal, It's not something that most
people realistically are gonna do.
Cause you know, like for those
who aren't familiar, right?
Intermittent fasting.
Yeah, I mean there's a bunch of different
versions, but the kind of common popular
version is you don't eat for 16 hours
and then you eat within an eight hour
window of the day, because at 16 hours
is when this process called aji kicks
in, which if you're not familiar, aji is
the word actually translates to selfe.
But essentially it's where the body.
Digests particular pieces of cells that
are no longer healthy and functioning
and processes them out to improve
overall health and self function.
And there there's a close tie
between SEN and a toy actually.
Like most of the ingredients that are in
our lytic product have also quite a bit of
evidence to support and increase theology.
So though that wasn't the primary focus
of this particular product, it is one
of the, the likely secondary benefits.
But yeah, intermittent fasting is
essentially you try to keep your
eating within an eight hour window.
So let's say from noon to 8:00 PM.
And then outside of that, you try
to not have an e caloric intake.
Now black coffee is usually still
okay within that cuz there's
not really calories and there's
actually some compounds in there
that support all of these processes.
But generally it's, you know, water
during the rest of the time and
then you keep your meals within that
window and it has tremendous benefits.
And if you're willing and
able to do that, awesome.
If not, that's cool too.
Just try to make relatively
good food choices and.
The Big Mac is usually not one of those,
No and I don't even, It's not even food.
Let's be real.
No, and, and I have to throw in
my, you know, and you did say
it, but I'm gonna highlight.
That, that eating window isn't,
is not ideal for everybody.
And it certainly doesn't mean that if
you've never played with intermittent
fasting, you should immediately, you
know, just go for that eight hour window.
But you, you find, and it may change.
I mean, there was a period
where I felt best when ate one.
That was just, it just
naturally that's how we evolved.
And it, and it changes, so it'll listen
to your body as well as you do it.
You may have already answered this.
I, I always love to give listeners because
gen generally, there's a lot of, you
could do this, you could do that really.
Information and nuggets.
But then I put you on the
spot and ask you for that.
One step listeners can take today, and
it certainly could be one of the things
you already said to, to start to really
move the needle and improve their health.
It's always so hard to narrow down.
Right.
I have to pick one.
So it's interesting.
If I was gonna give one, it
actually wouldn't be any of the
three main things I mentioned.
Right?
I said the keys are sleep.
Diet, exercise, but to me, those are
all tools in the direction of what
is most important, which is pursue
that which makes you feel most alive.
Right, And that can look like a
million different things for somebody.
For one person, it's singing, right?
For another person it's dancing.
For another person, it's quality time
with friends for one, for somebody else.
It is, you know, spending time in
the kitchen and really devoting
yourself to making healthy food
and, and being present to it.
And it, and honestly
doesn't matter what it is.
Whatever it is that moves you, that
makes you light up, that makes you.
Delighted.
That makes you want to get out of
bed in the morning, do more of that.
I love that I, I.
side of approach to how to not just be
healthy, but how to live a great life.
And it's the thing that
as a society, we suck at.
Right.
We get so focused on all
the things we have to do,
back burner that all the time.
right?
I mean, we've all had.
your motivator to then do
all the other things is.
When you're pursuing the, I, this
is not the word you use, but joy,
like we, we, that's what drives us,
which goes back to the colia, right?
This feeling the most like
you and it is so different.
Well, and the beautiful thing with that
is if you do that, you have way more
energy and resources for everything else,
it's fuel.
And it doesn't matter what makes you
feel live if you move in that direction.
You have a better outlook on life.
You have a, they're almost inherently
going to make better choices.
You're gonna choose to spend less
time in relationships and dynamics
that are stressful and painful.
You're either gonna get out of them or
you're gonna take better dietary choices.
Like it doesn't, It's gonna cross
over into every other part of life.
the trickle down effect.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Oh my gosh.
So amazing where everything's
gonna be in the notes, but for
those that just listen on the go,
where's the best place to find you?
They're like, I need
to hear more from him.
I mean, best places go
to neural hacker.com.
Right.
They're, you're, I mean, I have content
on there, but I mean, we have a whole team
of just amazing physicians, PhDs that are
putting out all kinds of great content.
Obviously, you know, products are there.
But you know, we, we focus
very heavily on research and
product, but also on education.
And so, you know, there's a lot of
resources there to dive into and not
just in the domain of health right.
Like that is our core focus.
But a lot of our content research is also
oriented around sort of how to support
the more healthy functioning civiliz.
Cuz it ties into why we
started the business, right?
The, that initial goal I talked
about of, you know, how do you
make people more intelligent, more
competent, and more empathetic.
That empathy part was how
do you drive better decision
making in the world as a whole?
So we also try to expose people
to some of the things that would
help create more understanding of
what does the world need at scale.
And then as you become healthier,
as you become, More capable.
You get to devote more resources to
your own life and your own happiness.
But as we all know, contribution is one of
the key things that makes life phenomenal.
And so we try to support and
encourage things in that direction.
And you guys do an amazing job.
It is part of, it's not just the products
that make your company stand out and,
and make that contribution so big.
So everybody, you know, go to
neurohacker.com and, and check it out.
And, and I don't ever, I don't
push, I only promote what
I know and what I, what I.
Really see, make a difference for people.
So I would say, you know,
check out the products as well
because they, they are amazing.
They're the best you're
gonna find, for sure.
Thank you.
James, thank you so much.
You've shared amazing gold with us today.
Thanks for having me.
This was great.
I, I really enjoyed it.
Glad to get to share.
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