Beer, Booze & B.S. Podcast

He went viral after a fight video exploded online — now Zak X sits down with Beer, Booze & B.S. to tell his side.
From legal fallout and jail time to name changes, drift cars, wild stories, and real-life chaos, this episode does not hold back.

In this unfiltered interview, Zak X talks about the viral fight clip that put him all over the internet, why he can only say so much because of legal issues, how he ended up in Hennepin County jail, why he legally changed his name to Zak X, and what people get wrong about him. He also opens up about his past, growing up around sports, getting in trouble young, working in car sales, and his obsession with drift cars.

This episode goes way beyond the viral video. It turns into a raw, funny, chaotic conversation about internet fame, public judgment, free speech, nightlife, drinking stories, college party culture, and the kind of controversy that makes people keep watching. If you’ve been seeing Zak X everywhere and want the real personality behind the clip, this is the episode to watch.

Watch now and tell us in the comments: what do you think of Zak X after hearing him talk?
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Chrissy:

Alright. We are back here at Frontier Liquor in Zimmerman with Beer Booze and BS, our podcast. We are filming, on a cold winter day. Again, I keep feeling like, I it's never ending that I keep saying that. Got Polly here with us today and, a very special guest.

Chrissy:

Just got to meet him this morning. His name is Zach, Zach x, and, he is, from Saint Cloud and recently went viral for a video that one of his friends videotaped of him in a fight at the it was at the Whipple Building?

Zak X:

It's called the Whipple Bishop. The Whipple Bishop.

Chrissy:

Yep. And he's I doesn't know how many views, but it has to be in the millions of views because I everybody that I've showed it to has seen it and has watched it over and over and over again. My best friend goes, I must have watched that 50 times. So, anyway, due to legal issues or whatever, impending legal issues, he's not able to talk about the what did your lawyer say? Just obviously, it's out there.

Chrissy:

We can watch it. Yeah.

Zak X:

We can we can talk bits on things. Bits

Chrissy:

on it. So But Okay.

Zak X:

He wants me to try to not make things worse on him.

Chrissy:

Right. Right.

Paul:

Tore on it.

Zak X:

Yeah. Make

Paul:

it become more work.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yep. Well, let's talk about your name first of all, because you recently changed your name.

Zak X:

Correct.

Chrissy:

So Zach x is your actual legal name now?

Zak X:

Yeah. It's Zach x. Yeah. It's so simple. It's it's very complicated.

Chrissy:

K, just an x. Yep. Now what possessed you to do that?

Zak X:

My dad. I'm not gonna lie to you guys. Do you guys wonder where my mouth come from? It it comes from my dad.

Chrissy:

That's where

Zak X:

it comes from. So yeah. I

Chrissy:

with your dad?

Zak X:

Not anymore.

Chrissy:

Oh, okay.

Zak X:

I chose to kinda separate and Okay. Change my name.

Chrissy:

And Oh, so that's why. Okay.

Zak X:

Yeah. Okay. I guess

Chrissy:

And where does dad live?

Zak X:

I honestly don't know.

Chrissy:

Oh. Yeah. When's the last time you talked to him?

Zak X:

Almost two years.

Chrissy:

Okay. Alright.

Zak X:

I hear he is a fan, though. I see he's a fan.

Chrissy:

Well, good. Well, you have a lot of fans for sure. A lot of fans and a lot of non fans I've noticed on there, but we're not going to talk about them.

Paul:

So what about mom?

Zak X:

They're a big part of my motivation, honestly. The creators are my motivator. How about mother? Close the needle. Me and my mother are very close.

Zak X:

Yeah, I try not to talk too much on her because all these psychopaths

Paul:

do me.

Zak X:

Right, right. Okay.

Chrissy:

She's around though still, and you talk Yep. With her all the Cool.

Zak X:

Yep. She she took care of my kitty cat when I was in the in the pen. In

Chrissy:

the clink? Yeah. Yeah. He had to he did get to spend a luxurious day at the Hennepin County Hotel. Three and a half days.

Chrissy:

Oh, it was three and a half days?

Zak X:

Because they got me on probable cause. Okay. The only county that there's such thing.

Chrissy:

Okay. So everyone else, they catch and release like fish, but Mhmm. You, they had to keep you for three days.

Zak X:

Yep.

Chrissy:

Yep. And did you have to bail out? You had to pay bail or did they not no bail?

Zak X:

Had to pay.

Chrissy:

So I see like

Zak X:

like Had to pay bail.

Chrissy:

Rapists get no bail half the time. You know?

Paul:

Correct. Yeah. Right? Do a fucking little fuckers all willy nilly.

Zak X:

And to pay bail, and then I had to pay more after my first court appearance because she didn't want me going back to the Whipple Building. Oh. So it was either

Chrissy:

So you're released on conditions, I'm assuming, obviously.

Zak X:

Yeah. So I was released or pay more to have no conditions.

Chrissy:

No conditions. So is that what you did? Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah.

Chrissy:

That's kind of a good idea to do that.

Zak X:

Yeah. And that's why Mercado, mister Andrew Mercado has been trying to catch me on some charges and

Chrissy:

Right. Because he doesn't know what's what's going on. Yeah. We'll talk about him a little bit later, but I don't know a whole lot about him. I just see the banter between the two of you on social media.

Zak X:

So Mhmm.

Chrissy:

So tell us about your childhood. Like, so dad and mom, were they together? Were they divorced at an early age? Or

Zak X:

split when I was 13.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Zak X:

I would say my childhood was mainly all sports wrestling. I was, it was wrestling, football, track, and baseball.

Chrissy:

Okay. So a pretty athletic dude.

Paul:

Yep. He grew up in Saint Cloud then? Or No. I grew up

Zak X:

in Maple Lake. I graduated from Buffalo. Oh, okay. Yep.

Paul:

Nice.

Chrissy:

And when did you move to Saint Cloud then?

Zak X:

I moved to Saint Cloud 08/09/2019.

Chrissy:

Oh, so not all that long, but you've been there long enough to kinda watch it kinda go in the toilet

Zak X:

a little bit. Well, you know, as a kid, I grew up knowing like Saint Cloud Superman and just the whole community out there was

Paul:

it was good out there. Bit different than it is now. 100%

Zak X:

a whole different ballgame. Yeah. It's not the same world that I once knew.

Paul:

Yeah. I remember back in the day, you'd be excited to go to Saint Cloud, go to the mall, whatever.

Chrissy:

The mall. Yeah.

Paul:

And it's like, now I fucking avoid that place like the plague.

Zak X:

Yep. You don't even wanna take a nice car out No. In that town

Chrissy:

anymore.

Zak X:

You know?

Chrissy:

Because of vandalism or just Drivers. Oh, dryer. Oh, because

Zak X:

they're always

Chrissy:

hitting buildings.

Paul:

Yep. Hit

Zak X:

buildings, so it's hurts. Hit

Chrissy:

runs. Oh my god. Yeah. He's like, oh, another Somalian. Hit a building.

Chrissy:

Uh-huh. Jesus Christ.

Zak X:

It's very scary. I try not to sound too prejudiced about the whole matter, but it's clear as day that Walls gave people licenses. Right.

Chrissy:

He's admitted it.

Zak X:

So Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

That's Yeah. Crazy. Anyway, I gotta kinda watch my own self, what did I say?

Paul:

No. It's a cruel world.

Chrissy:

So brothers and sisters or anything like that?

Zak X:

I have one half brother. Okay. And then two step brothers.

Chrissy:

Okay. So you're like the only one from your mom and dad then?

Zak X:

I'm the only one from my mom. Dad had More? Yep. Okay. My dad had older brother.

Zak X:

His name's Garrett. We didn't talk for a while, but he became a fan. Good. So I met up with him.

Chrissy:

Good.

Zak X:

I went to the Whipple with him a couple Oh, of weeks

Chrissy:

okay. Cool.

Zak X:

He got to see how real it is out there. Didn't stay long.

Chrissy:

Well, we wanna keep you alive, so just be careful out there. So people obviously know Zach X from I'm just gonna say I mean, most people know from the Notorious video of Yep. The Yeah. Disagreement that you had. Mhmm.

Chrissy:

But who is Zach x, like, when you're sitting at home and you're hanging out with your friends or just not the the Zach x persona, but the real guy. Yeah. What does he like to do?

Zak X:

Like Car enthusiasts. I like to play video games, go out and hang, just go adventure and

Chrissy:

k.

Zak X:

Yeah. Do you adrenaline junkie.

Chrissy:

Sports games and stuff? Are you a big football guy?

Zak X:

Not big into sports. I like watching drifting. Okay. I watch UFC, but not a whole lot of television.

Chrissy:

Oh, okay.

Zak X:

More YouTube stuff.

Chrissy:

Did you ever speaking of sports, you didn't list boxing in there, which kind of surprised me. Once been me up. Might wanna try. They got some pretty nice box of gins over

Zak X:

there in

Chrissy:

Saint Cloud.

Zak X:

Never looked or never been in a professional fight before.

Chrissy:

Oh, okay. Yep. Have you have you

Paul:

Wanted to?

Chrissy:

Well, have you wanted to for one, or have you were you an like, were you a fighter? Like, I've been in a lot of fights in my life. So, like So the

Zak X:

younger, obviously. The last time that I had to defend myself since this was I was 25 or 26.

Chrissy:

Okay. So in your 37. So ten years is you you went. Okay. Yeah.

Chrissy:

So it's not like you got you're running around with smart mouth and

Zak X:

and No. And he actually kinda hit me out of nowhere over some Internet drama from a year prior, and I ended up slamming him and breaking his elbow. Oh, nice. He got he got a lot worse. So

Chrissy:

what is it, Zach, that you want people to know about you? Like, what do you want people to understand? Because obviously, they see that video and they're being judged. I mean, some people are being judged.

Zak X:

Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

They judge you like, oh, he's a big mouth. He's, you know, this and that.

Zak X:

So I I don't go to these things looking for problems. Right. But I do go there to express my first amendment. And if they can't handle that, that's on them kinda deal. Okay.

Zak X:

I was in sales for ten years plus, so that's kinda what started this whole, feeling oppressing because I had my opinions on things. You can't speak when you own a business or

Paul:

Yeah. Forbid you speak your mind, you're gonna lose business one way or another. 100%. So Especially if you're the owner.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah.

Paul:

You're like, fuck. Alright. Next.

Zak X:

100%.

Chrissy:

I kind of need to shut my mouth more, but I don't. I know who my customers are, though. You know?

Zak X:

Respect. Yeah. And you're you're in the right area. But it's just one of those things where I was oppressed for so long. So many things happened in that time that

Chrissy:

Yeah. Now did you have the same job for a long time?

Zak X:

Yeah. Sold cars at ten forty Ford for, ten years. Okay. Nice. Things started going downhill there.

Zak X:

They got scammy and yeah. No. It's just the truth of the matter.

Chrissy:

Well, I've seen you posted something about someone there.

Zak X:

Yeah. Yeah. That's all.

Chrissy:

What was that about?

Zak X:

It's all just truth of the dealership life. Okay.

Chrissy:

So there was a girl there that liked you?

Zak X:

It was all a game. Okay. All a game.

Chrissy:

I was like, oh, I don't know what's going on here,

Zak X:

but manipulation of men, I guess, in car dealership world, I guess. I don't know. But, I just called things out for what it was, now she wants to try to get a restraining order on things.

Chrissy:

She is? Mhmm. This girl is? Mhmm. Oh, Jesus.

Chrissy:

Was it your girlfriend?

Zak X:

No, no, she's married. Oh, one of those. Yes, she's married. I called things out and thinking things are pretty rough in that household right now.

Chrissy:

You ever been I'm assuming you've been in some relationships. Any long term relationships? I know you're single now because you just recently posted that. No kids.

Zak X:

Yep. So three and a half years ago, I just had my last kinda over this trying with girl sing. And I just been focusing on my drift car and myself for this long.

Chrissy:

And Okay.

Zak X:

Everybody always makes a big deal about it, but I I don't You like being single? I like not being held back from things that I love.

Chrissy:

Sure. Sure. And I don't think anyone should be held back from doing the things that they love. I mean, just because they're in a relationship, but sometimes

Zak X:

it happens. Yep.

Chrissy:

So alright. Well, drift cars.

Zak X:

Drift cars.

Chrissy:

Let's talk about that. Tell us about what kind of car you have and where you go and all that kind of stuff and how you got into it.

Zak X:

Yeah. I guess I got into it because of the movie Tokyo Drift. Oh. And it kinda just spiraled from there. It was, like, two or three years later, you just start hanging out with people and then the car industry, and next thing you know, you got a ride, and then car that did donuts on the street.

Zak X:

Yeah. And then you start hanging out with those people, and then you got to ride on the track. And then you're like, shit. That's it. That was

Paul:

a wrap.

Zak X:

It was a wrap. So, yeah, that happened at Elko Speedway. They stopped doing drift events for a long time, and now Elko Speedway actually just, opened back up. But Okay. For drifting.

Zak X:

And I I'm just been doing I've been doing it for thirteen years.

Paul:

Okay.

Chrissy:

What kind of car do you have?

Zak X:

Completely custom o three g 35 sedan with the LS one wise fab suspension.

Paul:

G 35 and infinity? Yep. Nice.

Chrissy:

I don't even know what that is. Yeah. And Infiniti. Okay.

Paul:

I have don't they have, like, a badass fucking body kit you can buy for one of those things? Oh. Completely just it looks like some fucking supercar. The kit alone, just a body kit, I think, is, like, $25.50 grand or something.

Zak X:

Oh, you're okay. So I'm not sure. Is got a lot more aftermarket support than the sedan.

Paul:

Yep. And Oh, yeah. It might be the coupe.

Zak X:

Yep. Yeah. Yeah. You might be talking like a bale side kit

Paul:

or something that. Yeah. Began with a V. Yep. I've seen that thing and it's just like, fuck, that thing is sick.

Zak X:

Hell, yeah. Yeah. There's not a whole lot of aftermarket support. So everything that I've done, it's kinda one off.

Chrissy:

Did you build this car then? You had the car, and then you built it to this? Or

Zak X:

So I started with a different car. I bought this one. It was kinda built already, but I've had to go over everything besides like the engine and trans.

Chrissy:

Okay. Well,

Paul:

it's like once you start fucking beefing up one thing, it's just you gotta follow that line right down. Otherwise, you break this that everything else. 100%.

Zak X:

And when you're talking about, like, on track versus street street. It's just you gotta go all out or you you hurt yourself.

Paul:

What don't they have like, just been learning a little bit about these cars or whatever, but don't they have like, they're I think they're called angle kits for the steering so that the tires can turn, like Yep. Twice as far?

Zak X:

Yep. So I have WiseFab. It's fucking extremely expensive. It's $4 with

Paul:

Four. Wheel location. Suspension shit.

Zak X:

Well, that's yeah, that's just your front. Fuck. You could probably spend another two or three on the rear.

Paul:

What would you have to do to the rear?

Zak X:

Wait for more grip. It's it's it relocates everything for more grip. So it's yeah. They it makes it wider. That's especially what most the angle kit.

Zak X:

They push it out and they give you more.

Paul:

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. You can fucking like, you your tire I've seen some of them, and it literally looks like their tire is, like, fucking 90 degrees out from the side of the car.

Zak X:

Yeah. I think my kid's, like, 45 degrees or something. Is that

Chrissy:

what Zach from Pine Brook does? Drifting? Okay. Zach Poppins. Jack?

Chrissy:

Do ever go to Brainerd?

Zak X:

Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I've I've driven with him quite a few times. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Poppins. Good friend.

Zak X:

Super cool guy.

Chrissy:

And then trust her too was doing it for a while with that

Paul:

He was doing drag race, though, wasn't he?

Chrissy:

And drifting.

Zak X:

Oh, he was? He did a little

Chrissy:

Yeah. With that Cadillac. Who's that? Jason Chester?

Paul:

Dragged that.

Chrissy:

He just dragged that. Oh, which one was he drifting?

Paul:

Know. Mercedes c 30 or C63.

Zak X:

Oh, he black?

Paul:

Yeah.

Zak X:

Yeah. I actually drove with him last year. Was or he followed me a bunch of times last year. To me? Okay.

Zak X:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's super cool guy too.

Paul:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Big muscular.

Zak X:

I don't remember that, but just I remember he was chasing me a bunch of times and I asked him to go in front of me a couple of times and he wouldn't do it. He's scared. Funny. He's pretty

Paul:

good or well, I guess I don't know if he's good, but I've seen some of his just

Chrissy:

I've just seen him in the. Yeah.

Paul:

Like Snapchat or something. You'll see him fucking rip it. Yeah. He was

Zak X:

he was out there a couple times. Super nice car to be doing that shit.

Paul:

Yeah. I know shit. Right?

Zak X:

Yeah. He's got big balls.

Paul:

Fuck that up. That'd be a happy piss.

Zak X:

Probably six years

Chrissy:

that all winner, that Mercedes. Well Didn't he?

Paul:

I don't

Chrissy:

know. Because they went down to Georgia and got it when he was still married to Diana.

Paul:

And I think he had blood sacks on that

Chrissy:

fucking because he put snow tires on.

Zak X:

That's wild.

Paul:

Right? That's such a badass car. I'd drive that fucker year out.

Zak X:

I suppose. Fuck the money. Yeah. If you got the money, right? If you got the money, why not?

Chrissy:

Not me. I don't. Keep my stuff nice. Try to it.

Zak X:

The rest of it's all Haltech computer, ECU dash, t 56 Magnum trans.

Chrissy:

So in a drifting competition, how do you win? I don't even know.

Zak X:

Oh, yeah. Most people don't understand this.

Chrissy:

It's kinda No. I don't. I don't either.

Zak X:

It's kinda like figure skating, and you're judged. Yeah. Super gay.

Paul:

Just on your lines.

Chrissy:

Figure skating.

Zak X:

Figure skating.

Chrissy:

So it's judges.

Zak X:

Yeah. So essentially, you're putting clipping points where you got to get the accent next to the wall or whatnot or the front

Paul:

end closer to the bar. I'm assuming

Zak X:

and then so one car goes first and then the next car chases and they try to get in the pocket as closely as they can. Proximity is what you judge on mostly.

Paul:

I was just gonna say the closer the better.

Zak X:

Yep. Your judge on style, proximity and, you know, line or whatever.

Paul:

Yeah, is damn near like figure skating the way they fucking flow.

Zak X:

Yeah. Yeah. So it's all judged. Politics do come into playing shit, and that's why I try not I try to stay away from the competition. I feel like that's funny.

Chrissy:

Fuck around and enjoy Yeah.

Zak X:

I just do

Paul:

it for a any fucking sport nowadays. It doesn't matter what you're in.

Zak X:

Oh, yeah. I feel like

Chrissy:

I feel like it's all rigged in

Paul:

the Yeah. You can't you can't get away from it.

Zak X:

Politics is wild right now. Yeah.

Chrissy:

And everything. Six o in there then?

Zak X:

No. Five three? It's a '99 Corvette. Yep.

Paul:

Oh, bad.

Zak X:

Yep. Yep. Sweet. Oh, awesome. I forgot there's people coming in here to buy shit.

Zak X:

Yeah. That's good.

Chrissy:

We're open. We're open for this.

Paul:

Go here.

Zak X:

Make sure someone's not coming in on you. Someone's fucking stabbing me all the time.

Paul:

I'll be watching.

Chrissy:

I'll be watching. No.

Zak X:

You're good.

Chrissy:

Yeah. We got Colton over there. Ain't no one getting by him. Alright. Well, let's try our first drink, Shannon.

Chrissy:

We're gonna try the buzz buzz ball pink lemon squeezy. Buzzball's pink lemon squeezy is a ready to drink cocktail with a bright citrus forward flavor that tastes like a spiked pink lemonade featuring a mix of zesty lemon and sweet tart notes. It is made with real fruit juice. I'm assuming vodka premium spirits. So yeah.

Chrissy:

Have you ever had a buzz ball?

Zak X:

I don't drink very often.

Chrissy:

Okay. So they're, like, 15% alcohol.

Zak X:

My first time getting blackout drunk was two weeks ago.

Chrissy:

Oh, jeez. Too. Yeah. First time? Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

Time. Bullshit. Well, cheers to having you on our show.

Zak X:

Thank you so much. Yeah. Pleasure to be here.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Thank you for coming on. So we're gonna try it and give our opinions.

Paul:

I feel like these buzz balls almost all taste the same.

Zak X:

Hot fucks with it. This

Chrissy:

is good. I like buzz balls.

Paul:

I like pink lemonade too.

Chrissy:

Yeah. I know you don't.

Paul:

This shit would fucking

Chrissy:

wreck you. 15% alcohol in this tiny little thing.

Paul:

Oh, wow. Yeah.

Chrissy:

And Yeah. It costs $3 and $39.04 beers. Literally. Yeah. But, you know, it's tasty.

Zak X:

Mhmm. Yeah. It did not taste bad at all. That's why

Chrissy:

I'm saying strong.

Zak X:

Right? Yeah. That's bang for your buck.

Chrissy:

That's why they call it buzz ball. Drink one and you're you have a nice buzz. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Delicious.

Chrissy:

What do you we rate from, like, one to 10.

Zak X:

I'd give it, like, an eight. Yeah.

Paul:

Seven to eight.

Chrissy:

Yeah. I think I would too.

Zak X:

And you can hang it from your Christmas tree.

Chrissy:

Mhmm.

Paul:

Right? You

Chrissy:

could do something glamorous with that little buzz ball.

Zak X:

Yeah. You could make some shit out of that.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Yeah. I'm definitely. That's delicious. Very good.

Chrissy:

Alright. Moving forward with you, Zach. So you said you grew up in Buffalo. Where were you born?

Zak X:

I was born in Buffalo technically because there's no hospital in Maple Lake. But Yep. Yep. Yep. Small town in Maple Lake.

Zak X:

Farms right in the backyard pretty much. You had a farm? Nope. But it was pretty much right there.

Paul:

Greenland everywhere.

Chrissy:

Yep. Did you like school? Were you a good student? Did you graduate?

Zak X:

Yeah. Graduated. Well, I guess I never really thought about this. I was a decent student until high school. Yep.

Zak X:

Then Most of us. Yeah. Drugs, alcohol, you name it.

Chrissy:

So okay, you got into the party and seen

Zak X:

it Yep. At a good I actually got a DUI when I was 17.

Chrissy:

Oh, no.

Zak X:

And I changed my life. I'm actually thankful that it happened when I was young. Sure.

Paul:

Was it did they consider

Chrissy:

So you learned from it?

Paul:

DUI or minor while driving?

Zak X:

Oh, it was a DUI times five because some lady named Melissa died. She's underage. Oh. So I had to do all my courses over. I did everything over.

Chrissy:

Was Oh, sacks.

Zak X:

That's Yeah.

Paul:

I got

Zak X:

the book thrown at me. Yeah. Know young age. That'll happen. But I'm thankful for it because Yeah.

Zak X:

Wouldn't be

Paul:

probably change the course or the trajectory of my life after something happens like that.

Zak X:

Yeah. No. Was sober a

Chrissy:

year and half. With you or this is someone that you like?

Zak X:

No. No. Nope. That was just a lot that was created because of the it was called Melissa.

Chrissy:

Oh, so it wasn't something you did. No. No. Oh, I'm like, damn.

Zak X:

I did not kill anybody.

Chrissy:

I'm like, holy crap.

Paul:

No. No. No.

Zak X:

Somebody Okay. Wait. Somebody died when they were 17 from drinking and driving.

Chrissy:

Alright. Did you guys thought

Zak X:

that too? Yeah. Alright.

Chrissy:

Okay. Fuck. So thank god. That stressed him out.

Zak X:

No. I would

Paul:

Jesus Christ. Right.

Zak X:

That would that'd be fucked up.

Chrissy:

Well, was like, woah. Wait. What are we getting ourselves into here?

Zak X:

Yeah. Some spicy shit. Yeah. Nope. Not not nothing that spicy.

Chrissy:

We actually have a a friend, some that that actually did happen to, and he wasn't drunk. They tried to get him on it. And he had a beer or two beers, but his alcohol level came back and it was under the point zero eight. Thank God because he would have been looking out of doing a lot of time. But, yeah.

Chrissy:

Scary shit. Very sad, sad situation for everybody involved. But and a really good good kid. You know? Just unfortunate circumstances happen Yep.

Chrissy:

So So you were

Zak X:

I stayed I stayed sober for a year and a half after that. You did? Okay. Yep. And that's kind of what's brought me to this shit, I guess, really Okay.

Zak X:

In a sense.

Chrissy:

No. Clearly, you're very patriotic. Has that always been

Zak X:

Not necessarily life? A little bit, but nothing like this. I mean, it was just at some point, I realized no one was standing up.

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Zak X:

And no one I'll just be completely honest with you. I mean, I did I did pretty well in the car industry. So, I paid my house off. Good. I realized, like, no one else can really risk the shit that I can risk right now, even though I don't know what my future holds.

Zak X:

Right. And they're probably gonna attack my future employees forever

Paul:

Yeah.

Zak X:

Unless I figure things out for myself. But, yeah, it's just been kind of a weird I've always been kinda patriotic, but nothing like

Chrissy:

Nothing like this. Like

Zak X:

No. No.

Chrissy:

And we'll get into, like, what possessed you to go this far.

Paul:

But Yeah.

Zak X:

There's quite a few things that

Chrissy:

I have. Well, like I said, my son knows a lot about you. So Yeah. He's done his homework.

Zak X:

My blood blew.

Chrissy:

Yeah. So do you feel like you what what did your folks teach you? What did your folks do for a living for a living? Were they hard workers?

Zak X:

Hard they workers. Dad was forklift operator, stuff like that.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Zak X:

Mom was always paperwork. Yeah. Delta was a big job of hers and whatnot. But Your mom did what? She worked for the airlines paperwork and stuff.

Zak X:

Oh, okay.

Chrissy:

It's a good job.

Zak X:

But, yeah, my parents, pretty good parents. I can't talk shit on them. I had a pretty good upraising.

Chrissy:

Good. They were good about teaching you work ethics and respect. Yeah. All that was there.

Zak X:

All that was there. Anything that you see that looks like my parents were shitting now, it's all a choice

Paul:

on me.

Chrissy:

No. I don't think that at all.

Paul:

That's all me.

Zak X:

That's all me.

Chrissy:

No. I don't think that at all. But I don't think most people think that either. No.

Zak X:

When they split when I was young, yeah, it fucked me up.

Chrissy:

That's a hard age too at 13. Yep.

Zak X:

You're just going

Paul:

to puberty

Zak X:

and all the stupid changes.

Paul:

Your own shit out. Yep.

Chrissy:

Yep. Absolutely. Yep. Have you always been outspoken?

Zak X:

Yeah. Yeah. Little bit. Okay.

Chrissy:

So I was painfully, painfully shy my whole life until I was out of school because people are like, what? No way.

Paul:

You talk.

Chrissy:

You know? You blab so much.

Paul:

Kinda like I was too.

Chrissy:

Were

Paul:

you? Fuck. I was always I never fucking talked to anyone. Always shit. I'd say probably till I was about 23, 24 Yeah.

Paul:

25.

Chrissy:

I started bartending out of you know? And that's

Zak X:

That'll break it.

Chrissy:

Yeah. And that was okay, I got to talk and talk to these dumbass and

Zak X:

Baby baby Yeah. Yeah. Sissies

Chrissy:

So But yeah, so you've always been kind of outspoken and

Zak X:

Yeah. My grandma, she went to Nationals thirty eight years consecutive. She would talk to everybody and then anywhere she was, standing in

Paul:

the line at the liquor store. Someone knew her. She would just

Chrissy:

Just socialize.

Zak X:

Yeah. Anybody in line would just be like, Hey, how are doing? Fucking natural to her.

Paul:

Are you

Chrissy:

close to your grandma?

Zak X:

She passed.

Chrissy:

Okay. But yeah. Yeah. You were. States.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Okay. That's cool.

Paul:

I like

Zak X:

that. I

Chrissy:

like that.

Zak X:

Yeah. I spread her ashes on the track. That was kinda coolest

Chrissy:

Oh, did you?

Zak X:

Coolest death wish I could ever What?

Chrissy:

I feel track? Pierre. Oh, Pierre. Yep. I've never been there.

Chrissy:

Really? Mm-mm.

Zak X:

Go for nationals.

Chrissy:

Never been there.

Paul:

I've been there once for drag racing.

Chrissy:

Yeah. I would love to go sometime. Go for nationals. The drag race thing? Yeah.

Chrissy:

Or what's the yeah.

Zak X:

That's the big

Chrissy:

that's big one.

Paul:

Yeah. The one where they do, like, 300 miles an hour or something.

Zak X:

Shakes your chest when they drive by.

Paul:

I just watched a video or, like, a YouTube where they sped it up, and it's, like, in I don't know how long in real life they'd take something to do it, but they, like, literally stripped down that entire fucking motor and rebuild it.

Zak X:

In, like, twenty minutes Yeah. Practically. Yeah. It's insane.

Paul:

It's probably about how long it was. Really? The video was maybe four or five minutes, and it didn't look like it was sped up that much. Right. Yeah.

Paul:

It's fucking insane.

Zak X:

Yeah. Yeah. I could never do it. Well, you could.

Paul:

But Right. I'd love to fucking sit in that car and go that fast, that quick.

Chrissy:

I think drag racing, I could do that versus, like, the track, like, the oval track.

Paul:

I'd I'd like to do drag racing at zero three hundred miles. Like to try that once. And then I'd like I'd like to take a MotoGP bike on that track.

Chrissy:

Can you, like, do that on the Vegas?

Paul:

Yeah. You can. Yeah. I don't know. I'm not near qualified or can't push the limits of those bikes, so it's not really worth it to try it.

Paul:

I think Vegas does Yamaha has a course where you pay I can't remember. I think it's, like, 800 or a thousand bucks for a three day deal, and you go, like, two days of class and shit. And then the last day, you get to ride the r one GP bike.

Zak X:

Which you should you should do that.

Paul:

Fuck. I know.

Chrissy:

Just speaking of Vegas, Mike just told me this, and I don't I've never heard of this before. He said you can pay to have a private plane and go up and

Paul:

That's nice.

Chrissy:

Mile High Club. Yep. Yeah. I'm like, that's

Paul:

certificates, everything. What? Yeah. What? I've seen it.

Chrissy:

I'm like,

Zak X:

how about you

Chrissy:

know that, Mike?

Paul:

It's all over fucking Facebook.

Chrissy:

I've never heard of it. I was like, what? You can do that?

Zak X:

That's like, just getting on the plane every time. Yeah. I'm like, that's kinda cool. Who thought of that?

Paul:

That is wild.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Well, so he always wants to you know, he would love his dream was to be a pilot. So I'm like, well, there you go. Right. Fly these fuckers.

Paul:

Fly these fuckers.

Chrissy:

Flying fuckers all day long.

Zak X:

Yeah. It's like But it's like, I

Paul:

would want I would fucking brand new sheets. Fuck this wash and shit. I don't wanna be fucking sleeping in some bed.

Chrissy:

Well, I would hope it would be clean. Jesus.

Paul:

I'm sure it is, but it's like, fuck that. I want bread and

Chrissy:

How much is it? Anybody know?

Paul:

It's not that expensive. I think it was like $1,500. They have like different packages. Sure. The a, the longer you wanna be up there.

Paul:

And then B, they have champagne and chocolate dipped strawberries. Like I said, they got your I looked

Chrissy:

into it. Yeah,

Paul:

was just on Facebook. I didn't really know much about it.

Zak X:

Right, right. I was looking for a friend.

Chrissy:

I think a it would be a cool anniversary gift to give someone.

Paul:

I don't know. I think it would be fun.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Fuck yeah.

Zak X:

I do too. Maybe Tim and Peggy Walls could use that to spice up

Chrissy:

your Wow. Hey. Is that true? Are they getting divorced?

Zak X:

I don't know. That's what I heard of. It's rumor. That's a rumor.

Chrissy:

Paul Schwefel and his psycho wife.

Zak X:

Oh, Peggy, hit me up. You wanna get pegged? Gotcha, girl.

Chrissy:

Boom. That's a that's taking one for the team, Zach.

Zak X:

She's got money.

Chrissy:

Like, at least the daughter's cute.

Zak X:

She's got money coming now. Right?

Chrissy:

He's a stripper. Tag, hippie up. You gotta romance her with the smoke of burning buildings and debris because she liked that. Remember? How she said she'd open the windows during the the Floyd riots?

Chrissy:

No. Did you ever hear that? No. No. Yeah.

Chrissy:

During the riot, she said, oh, she opened her windows of her house to take in the smell of the city burning down.

Zak X:

You're shit, man.

Chrissy:

No. I'm What

Zak X:

the fuck?

Chrissy:

She said it. Yeah. I was like, what a psycho.

Zak X:

Oh my God, these people.

Chrissy:

Psych. Oh. But yeah, that's the rumor now that they're getting divorced. God, you you can't It's so hard to know what to believe. Oh, no.

Chrissy:

Even with AI now, it's like, okay, you can see something and still not know if it's actually real or not. Shit sucks.

Paul:

AI is just getting better and better too. When it first came out, you're like, all right, that's obviously AI. But now it's just

Chrissy:

like- It's getting better, yeah. You're like,

Paul:

that looks like it could be AI, but it looks like it could be real.

Zak X:

Yep. Yep.

Chrissy:

Yep. I know. It's definitely to

Zak X:

ask AI if it's AI.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Right? True.

Paul:

Mhmm. True. Fucking lies it is to fucking pander to your fucking thoughts because she knows what you wanna hear.

Chrissy:

God. I get some I I get into arguments with chat GPT some days.

Zak X:

It's like,

Chrissy:

what are you talking about?

Paul:

Have you gone in-depth with that to kinda teach it to learn how you act and wanna interact with it and shit?

Chrissy:

Well, just for helping me do the podcast and stuff like that. It's really the only thing that I use it for. Yep.

Zak X:

But

Paul:

because I watch this one guy, and he he goes into, like, how you can make money and shit like that, but he can he tells you to go into it and, like, tell it personal shit Oh. So that it learns shit about you and how you think in certain scenarios and shit like that Okay. Which would make it would make that chat GTP work for you more aggressively and in a better way. But also, it's like, don't know if I want that fucking thing knowing all.

Chrissy:

Right. And I think it also depends on the level of the what you wanna pay. Because I like there's one chat GPT

Paul:

Oh, you're pay for it?

Chrissy:

Oh, yeah. Oh, right. Well, the standard you don't, but the more you pay, the more in-depth it's gonna go.

Paul:

You get more.

Chrissy:

So, like, Jason Truster was saying that Grock now, which is Twitter's Or Musk's Oh. Chat chat GPT or whatever.

Paul:

Says that's the better one.

Chrissy:

That he said well, he does he's been doing a lot of research on it, he said the one but I

Paul:

Well, he's so in-depth with so many different fucking he's his fingers and fucking everything.

Chrissy:

I did see that he said that one was the best one, but I think I wanna say like ChatGPT for the the really good one is like a 120, 150 a month or something like I just don't feel like I'm at that point where I need something like that, but I think I paid $20 a month for what I have.

Zak X:

The ROI on a $150 would be kinda difficult to Right. Unless you're Yeah.

Paul:

Dude, I mean, it depends on what you're doing and if you're

Chrissy:

using Depends on what you're doing.

Paul:

That fucker uses it for every single aspect of his life. So he's always like I said, he's gotta

Chrissy:

He's using AI like secretaries

Paul:

and all

Zak X:

that stuff. You could be paying it or you could pay it and have it advertised for here, though, and shit too.

Chrissy:

Right. I know that there's a lot more involved that I don't know, but I'm just kind of dipping my toes in right now. Paying a 150

Paul:

or a $120 a month to have basically a secretary sounds cheap.

Chrissy:

Right.

Paul:

You know, if you think of it that way. Right. Using it on that kind

Chrissy:

of If it works, fine. You know? I just like okay. So a couple weeks few week a month ago or two, when was Marcella on? A month or so ago?

Paul:

I don't know. Seemed like yeah.

Chrissy:

So a girl that we know who's an exotic dancer, she was on the podcast. And I what I do with ChatGPT is I once the editing is all done with the podcast, I enter the transcript into ChatGPT, and that gets you, like, a dis they'll go they'll read the whole thing in, like, ten seconds and then give you a really good title and description that's a strong SEO for YouTube or whatever. And that's basically what I do except so now this three hour episodes that we do, episode one would come out one week or part one would come out one week, part two would come out the next week. So part one of hers came out last Thursday. Yep.

Chrissy:

And I entered the transcript in. I did all of that, and it gave me a really good title, a really good thumbnail idea, you know, and stuff like that. So then I did part two, which is exact. So we're talking about the exact same shit.

Paul:

Right.

Chrissy:

All of a sudden, chat GPT wouldn't do it because it's I because it was exotic dancers and yeah. It was it kept telling me that Oh. I said you literally just did this a week ago. It didn't matter. Would not do it.

Chrissy:

No matter what I said, no matter what I did, no matter what I pulled out, it was just registering this that time as it being, I don't know, not appropriate, I guess, for CHET GPT. It was weird.

Paul:

So CHET CHET GPT fucking has limits

Chrissy:

Yeah.

Zak X:

On which you can Yeah. Doesn't.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Probably not. Yeah. GRASH is where

Paul:

it's better.

Chrissy:

Like, you it it won't if anything's violent or obviously, you know, predatorial crap like that, it's not gonna do. But, like Yeah. Really, all I think, you know, was in there was exotic dancers, strippers, strip club. It that was making it go crazy and not wanting to

Paul:

That's stupid.

Chrissy:

And it kept saying, we can't do nudity. I said, I'm not asking for nudity.

Zak X:

Yeah. I'm like, I'm

Paul:

not no. I got my own fucking picture. Fuck off.

Chrissy:

For the for the thumbnail. I said, obviously, I don't want nudity, and it just wouldn't do it no matter what. But it did it the first time, so it didn't make any sense.

Zak X:

Something she said in the transcript said a red flag.

Chrissy:

Possibly. That's why I asked.

Paul:

Would that be, though, if it did it the first week?

Chrissy:

I know. I don't know. Because I don't know. We talked about the same stuff.

Paul:

I would cut, copy and paste the first weeks, which whatever you said the first week. Yeah. Copy and paste that and do it. Just put them all back in, edit it, or or not edit. Just fucking cut, copy, and paste.

Paul:

Put it in there, and then just be like, put a title for part two of this.

Chrissy:

See what happens?

Zak X:

Yeah. Because

Paul:

it's like it already did it for the first one.

Chrissy:

It did the title. It did the title. It would not do the thumbnail, the picture. Like it wouldn't make me a thumbnail, which was just stupid. But anyhow, enough of that.

Chrissy:

So, Shannon, we're going to do drink two.

Zak X:

You must like bikes?

Paul:

A little bit. Yeah. Yep.

Zak X:

Could tell when you're talking about them.

Chrissy:

We all do.

Paul:

Oh. I just got done Kool

Chrissy:

Aid. Basics.

Paul:

Building a Oh. Bobber. Actually, I didn't. My buddy Redbird did.

Chrissy:

But sure.

Paul:

My brother

Chrissy:

If there's only two of mine,

Paul:

Hako frame, And then he kinda Johnny Cash that shit fucking one piece at a time from friends, family, anyone who had parts that he could fucking snag or whatever. And he got it, like, 90% done. And then my buddy, he he's got two kids or my brother's got two kids, and he's just like, I'm fucking I lost interest in, so I'm not gonna finish it. He's like, you wanna you wanna buy it or whatever? I'm like, yeah.

Paul:

Sure. Whatever. So I bought it from him. And then like I said, if I'm not

Chrissy:

Thank you, Shannon.

Paul:

I'm not good at building them. I can ride the fuck out of them, but I can't build them or do anything like that.

Chrissy:

But Thank you.

Paul:

Yeah. I hit up my buddy Redberg and I'm like, Hey. I'm I'm in over my head. I'm like, I need

Chrissy:

Thanks, honey.

Paul:

I need this finished. Fucking, you want to help me out? He's like, Fuck yeah. So actually him and I and Mike just a couple of weeks ago

Chrissy:

the Yeah.

Paul:

The wiring for it, but I got to kick it over and listen to it run for the first Oh my

Zak X:

God. Something you're a part of.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Did get wood?

Paul:

I don't have kids, but I would imagine that's what it's like watching your fucking kid being born.

Zak X:

I can understand that.

Chrissy:

Alright. So this is our second drink of the day. This is called Big Sips Jugs.

Zak X:

It's like a

Chrissy:

little milk jug. It's fucking hilarious. It's fruit punch. I know. It looks like a little laundry detergent.

Chrissy:

Lime lime margarita, obviously, this one, and fruit punch. So it these are also strong. They are Oh, 16% alcohol. Gina.

Paul:

Hello. My name is.

Chrissy:

Yeah. Big Sips is a

Paul:

bold, high gonna remember shit after you finish this fucking thing.

Chrissy:

Oh, you think? High energy cocktail brand made for people who like to live big, laugh big, and enjoy every moment. ABV wine based wine oh, this is wine based?

Paul:

So it's point eight drinks.

Chrissy:

Big Sips delivers a fun, high impact experience for parties, concerts, and celebrations.

Paul:

I can't

Chrissy:

So which one do you wanna try first?

Paul:

One

Chrissy:

liter. And it's $14.69 for a jug and 16% alcohol.

Zak X:

Damn. Fuck.

Chrissy:

I don't know. I love margaritas, so I'm

Paul:

gonna try that first. 6.8 times five.

Chrissy:

Ask Mike. Six times five. Thirty Thirty. Season.

Paul:

So it's, like, thirty some ounces.

Zak X:

For you.

Paul:

Oh, it smells fucking delicious.

Chrissy:

Oh, margarita.

Zak X:

Oh, is

Paul:

that what?

Chrissy:

Oh, That one's margarita.

Paul:

Oh, fruit punch is fucking good.

Chrissy:

Is it? Oh, they're strong, though. We did these That

Zak X:

was strong.

Chrissy:

I'm trying

Zak X:

to hide it, but that was

Chrissy:

Yeah. Don't feel like you have to drink at all either.

Paul:

This has got almost that same fucking aftertaste as these buzz balls.

Chrissy:

Does it have a boozy taste? These do I feel like these do more than the buzz balls.

Paul:

I feel like they don't. I feel like this

Chrissy:

is one that when I'm very we did the blind taste test, they liked these and I liked those.

Paul:

Who did?

Chrissy:

You and tip.

Zak X:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. The cherry smells better than the marg.

Paul:

Yep. I think it tastes better too. This shit smells fucking bomb as fuck.

Zak X:

Yeah. Cherry over, Mark. You like the red one? Yeah.

Chrissy:

Fruit punch. Fruit punch.

Paul:

It's got a weird aftertaste.

Zak X:

I will I will agree with you. It does have a weird. Is that you said it was wine based?

Chrissy:

That's what it says.

Zak X:

Probably wine.

Paul:

Oh, that would make sense.

Chrissy:

That makes based cocktails where those are vodka.

Paul:

I was just gonna say

Zak X:

That makes sense. Then.

Chrissy:

Are they all wine based, Shannon? These big sips or just these ones?

Paul:

How many ounces is a 187 milliliters? Get fucked. Why do you have milliliters? We're in America. Fucking pricks.

Chrissy:

That's a half pint. Right?

Zak X:

Yes.

Chrissy:

The one eight seven? Because the three seven five is a pint. Yeah. These are strong.

Paul:

Oh. It says this thing's a liter. That's liter. Oh, I should've if I would've read that in would you say 38 ounces?

Zak X:

34.

Chrissy:

34 ounces.

Paul:

Because a liter is what? 40 ounces or 38? Something like who the fuck cares? No one likes fucking all our liters.

Chrissy:

I have no idea. Someone else ounces.

Zak X:

An ounce of weed is They're all wine based. Yeah.

Paul:

So it's 38 ounces. I was right. Close enough.

Chrissy:

28. So what did you think? What do you give those?

Paul:

I think they taste damn near identical to the Buzz Balls.

Chrissy:

So seven or eight? Yeah. I I I feel like those are better in my opinion, so I'm gonna give it, like, a six. Because I would definitely if I was walk shopping for one or the other, I would pick those. I would get the fucking Even though the jugs are cute.

Paul:

Yeah. Because it's way fucking cooler to sip on a mini milk jug than it is a little fucking ball.

Zak X:

How much is this versus that?

Chrissy:

This is $14.69, but it's like a liter bottle.

Zak X:

Way way more.

Chrissy:

And this is like a half plant.

Paul:

Really? Yes. So that

Zak X:

was only $3.39.

Paul:

So So, basically, $15

Zak X:

is So they're a buzz ball. You like I'm giving these a notch down. So what? A 6.5 or something? Yep.

Zak X:

Yep.

Paul:

Giving it a notch up just for the fucking jug.

Zak X:

The jug's cool. The jug's

Chrissy:

are cool.

Paul:

Edward fucking jug hands. I tape them to my fingers like this.

Chrissy:

Oh, there you go. That'll be our next podcast.

Paul:

Right? We should totally

Chrissy:

do it.

Paul:

God, you fucking I'll Sean on here, and we'll do Edward

Chrissy:

40 hands. What you're telling explain it to him.

Paul:

You ever play Edward 40 hands? No. Where you take

Chrissy:

I've never heard of it.

Paul:

Mickey's and you fucking duct tape them to your hands?

Zak X:

Fuck no.

Paul:

And you can't fucking take them off until they're gone? No. What? Yeah.

Chrissy:

Go, Edward. Yeah. We need to do that with your brother.

Paul:

Oh my god. That'd be ridiculous.

Chrissy:

Oh my god. That'd some

Zak X:

It's good just hard because you're they're taped. Yeah. So someone actually And

Chrissy:

you have to drink them.

Zak X:

Yep. Okay. Alright. Then you risen. No.

Paul:

Not The worst part is is, like

Chrissy:

Well, right. Because you can't

Paul:

fine, like, usually the first round, but if you play multiple rounds, then it's like you get fucked. Yeah.

Zak X:

It sounds like a

Paul:

You get maybe five, ten minutes into it and you're half done with this one and now you gotta piss. You can't do nothing until

Chrissy:

you fucking

Paul:

slam the rest

Chrissy:

of That was like a nappy time to be.

Zak X:

It was piss jug.

Paul:

Yeah. Well,

Chrissy:

that I mean, then you would need

Paul:

would to be fine if you could get your pants on. Right. But you got You

Chrissy:

got beers on your hands.

Paul:

You got basically mittens.

Chrissy:

So you if you got a piss, you better drink them fast.

Zak X:

That's crazy.

Chrissy:

Where did you learn this?

Paul:

Duluth. Even when were in college?

Zak X:

That sounds like movie. That sounds

Paul:

like movie. Alright.

Zak X:

Alright. We're stuck in the middle of nowhere.

Paul:

Or Saint Cloud. I I would imagine anyone who's ever gone to Saint Cloud for fucking Saint Cloud State would know for sure.

Zak X:

Yeah. Party parties aren't like that anymore there.

Paul:

Well, listen to a dry cannabis sauce.

Chrissy:

That's what they did.

Zak X:

It was like, what, five, ten years

Paul:

ago. What?

Zak X:

Yeah. That's why Saint

Paul:

Cloud prison places a pretty fucking. Yeah. It's a plan of bullshit.

Zak X:

Play the bullshit.

Paul:

Their emissions is dropped freaking Oh, man. Right? I know. A 100%.

Zak X:

That's why they lost the football team. Yep.

Paul:

I wanna You didn't even have

Chrissy:

a football team anymore?

Paul:

No. They fucked everything up.

Zak X:

Well, yeah. They fucked everything

Paul:

up. On campus, you're gonna What college kid I don't give a fuck. Call straight lazy.

Zak X:

Nobody wants to go there.

Paul:

Nobody wants to go to a fucking silver campus. Get fucked. No.

Chrissy:

Sharia law.

Zak X:

Bunch of virgins, maybe.

Paul:

No. They wanna fucking wet camp. That's just so they can get laid. Oh my god. I guarantee you someone's gonna lose their ambitions.

Paul:

Everybody gets laid.

Chrissy:

Everybody gets laid. K. Getting back to school.

Zak X:

Let's go.

Chrissy:

You graduate did you graduate high school

Paul:

Yep.

Chrissy:

From Buffalo or from Maple Lake?

Zak X:

Yep. Yep. Buffalo high school.

Chrissy:

Buffalo high school. Did you go to college?

Zak X:

No. None of that

Chrissy:

shit. No military?

Zak X:

No military. Nothing.

Chrissy:

What was your life what was your life like right after high school? What did you do?

Zak X:

I took some time to focus on treatment and saving money to yeah. There's a lot of fun. It was like $4 back in the day. That

Chrissy:

was your d dub? Yeah.

Zak X:

That was a lot back. Yeah. So yeah. I really didn't get back in my feet till after I was clean for a year and a half. So Okay.

Zak X:

19.

Chrissy:

K.

Zak X:

And I just did simple shit like lawn care and, you know, I didn't make a whole lot of money and I didn't have credit until I was 25.

Chrissy:

So of us don't. We have to earn it, but yeah. Yeah. Do you live at home with your mom? Did you move out right away?

Zak X:

So I did live. Let's think, I lived at home with mom, and then I moved in with my uncle. Gotten some shit there. Back with my dad. There was shit there.

Zak X:

Uh-oh. I was a punk kid. I'm not gonna lie.

Chrissy:

What do you mean when you say shit? Like, Legal shit or shit with them?

Zak X:

Yeah. It was drugs.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Zak X:

Yeah. They didn't like the drugs or they didn't like the pot. It's a lot more acceptable in 2026.

Chrissy:

Right? Yeah. Oh, right.

Paul:

For sure. Can just stand around and smoke it anyway.

Chrissy:

So is that your your deal was pot? You weren't, like, on meth? Or When I was 17? Actually Any like, even in your twenties.

Zak X:

Yeah. It was actually cocaine I got busted with. Oh, okay. 17. Yeah.

Chrissy:

No. Damn. Yeah. Damn, Geno.

Zak X:

But I like the party.

Paul:

I wish I was younger and knew more about that back then. I would've been selling that shit like

Chrissy:

fucking Oh my god.

Zak X:

If I would've made a lot of money,

Paul:

I guess. That's what I'm saying. Especially with your sales.

Chrissy:

Yeah. That's where your sales experience came from.

Zak X:

Sure. Yeah.

Chrissy:

So okay. So you were dealing a little white powder or you were just doing

Zak X:

I was just doing just doing it. It was a party. And the reason why I got a DUI is because some of my black friends showed up and some of my white friends didn't want those black friends there. So they put me in charge of kicking them out.

Chrissy:

Oh. They

Zak X:

jumped me.

Chrissy:

The black friends or the white friends?

Zak X:

The black friends jumped me.

Chrissy:

Oh, because you were they told you they told you to make them leave? Yep. Okay.

Zak X:

They jumped me. I busted my lip open from the week before. Yeah. I got in the fights when I was younger. So I got jumped by their gangster disciples.

Zak X:

But Oh.

Paul:

No cameras for me.

Zak X:

I'm not here. And as I realized my lip was busted off from them, I, you know, thought them off, got back to my car, and went to the hospital to get my lip stitched back up.

Chrissy:

Sure.

Zak X:

And I got pulled over. So

Chrissy:

That's when you got it at 17?

Paul:

Yep. Yeah. Fuck.

Zak X:

Yep. So

Paul:

it's That's

Chrissy:

a That was a traumatic day or traumatic evening.

Zak X:

It was a crazy little time. Yeah. And I actually stabbed myself in the leg because they gave me a knife to kick them out with, and I was I don't know why. What? Yeah.

Zak X:

Yeah. There was a stab wound in my leg. Stabbed yourself? And I didn't even know about it. The cop pointed it out.

Chrissy:

What do you okay.

Paul:

Because you got a little tuned up on me.

Zak X:

I was fucking way tuned up.

Paul:

Yeah. Yeah. Holy fuck. I've never been that tuned up that I didn't know I stabbed myself.

Zak X:

Yeah. I stabbed myself in the leg. What's up? I

Paul:

stabbed myself when I was tuned up, but I was I was actually I made it. Do a coconut down in Mexico.

Chrissy:

Oh, in the hand. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit.

Paul:

I'm not

Chrissy:

on camera.

Paul:

I'm not on camera.

Chrissy:

You're not

Zak X:

on camera. You're good.

Paul:

You're good.

Zak X:

Yeah. You're good. Yeah.

Chrissy:

You're good, bud.

Paul:

Yeah. I can't track

Zak X:

you. I The government's watching, though.

Paul:

And one stupid Friday.

Chrissy:

I think we all have.

Paul:

But I love it. Awesome. I love it. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Let's talk about your content strategy.

Zak X:

Yeah. Sure. I don't really have a strategy. I'm just fucking out there.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Paul:

Like Just fucking

Zak X:

I just want to be as impactful on whatever the fuck they're trying to do. I wanna counteract that. Yeah. Okay. And, you know, I tried approaching it with a way different, like, approach at first.

Zak X:

I tried being nice and interview and Yeah. They don't wanna fucking talk about shit. So it just kinda turned into this vulgar fuck you guys kinda

Paul:

deal. And

Chrissy:

because I'm like, okay. So if you show up at a place where there's Should. Oh my protesting? Protesting. Yeah.

Chrissy:

Ice. We'll just use that as a example because that's kind of what's going on right now. It's Everything

Zak X:

right now. Yep.

Chrissy:

You show up and you disagree with them clearly. You don't agree with their protesting. So what is your goal when you get there? Like, is your goal to change their minds? Is your goal to just piss them off?

Chrissy:

Is it just to irritate them? Like, what is Zach's goal

Zak X:

Well, it sucks.

Chrissy:

In the moment, and then what's your goal in the long run?

Zak X:

Yeah. It sucks because at first, I wanted to actually have conversations and find out where their head was. Right. But they don't give you that. They don't give you that.

Zak X:

At this point, it's turned into if I go try to talk to them, I'm just going to get assaulted. So now it's just you you guys won't allow me to be an adult. So we're just going to play this like kids until I break you morally. Yeah.

Chrissy:

So that's that's my That's the approach?

Zak X:

That's my approach right now. Yep. Just expose how fucking dirty and rotten and abusive these people are.

Chrissy:

Right. Mentally ill. Well, there's a lot of mentally ill people.

Paul:

I think that's

Chrissy:

I truly feel like it's media. It's all media based.

Paul:

I think

Zak X:

it's media. I think it's people just not having a place they feel like they belong.

Chrissy:

You think so?

Zak X:

A 100%. I got that feeling so many times at this point. Like, even I don't know what you've all seen. So even like yesterday, had a conversation with

Chrissy:

Colton's probably seen a lot more than me.

Zak X:

Yeah. Every time I have a conversation with anybody, it just feels like they don't have anywhere that they belong. They have nothing really going. Like, it's just kinda weird vibes. They want this is something that they feel

Paul:

it's it's

Zak X:

strong about.

Paul:

Yeah. It's just like he said, it's just like they want something to believe in or something to fight for.

Zak X:

And somebody there's

Chrissy:

a lot of hatred is what I see. Like, hate breeds hate.

Zak X:

Angry about president most likely is what brings them together.

Paul:

And then you got politicians sitting here saying go out and burn it to the ground.

Chrissy:

Well, right. You got It's not good.

Paul:

Like, you can have the same exact fucking incident filmed by the same exact

Chrissy:

and And everyone sees it different.

Paul:

Cut it differently depending on which party they want fucking yeah.

Zak X:

They did it to me.

Chrissy:

Which Did they?

Zak X:

They made me look like fucking shit. I had 23 articles written that I'm a piece of shit.

Paul:

Yeah. Really?

Zak X:

I'm in jail. I'm a fucking third degree assaultist.

Paul:

That's what I'm saying.

Zak X:

Really?

Paul:

You gotta dig on everything to find, like, the whole fucking trailer, the whole video.

Zak X:

It was insane.

Chrissy:

Just a sec. Just sorry. No. Have

Paul:

you ever

Zak X:

been to jail?

Chrissy:

No. Never.

Paul:

Which is amazing for the dumb shit that I've

Chrissy:

You stink? I was like, what? I have never asked you that, so I didn't know.

Zak X:

I don't feel like I should ever have been to jail, but that's just me.

Chrissy:

I know I shouldn't have never been to jail, but I was. I spent fucking a whole weekend there. Got out Christmas Eve day.

Zak X:

You're kind of a badass.

Chrissy:

Oh, yeah. Bam. I'm not gonna lie. Fuck me for good. I'm

Paul:

a bad bitch.

Chrissy:

But my whole deal, like, when you say you got a bad deal, like, I super got a bad deal. And I'm not gonna take the time to go into it right now, but it was totally fucked up. Like, when it was as a percent.

Paul:

Well, it sounds

Zak X:

like it's similar, so go for it. I don't give a shit.

Chrissy:

Well, it happened a long time ago, but I was at a bar in Crown when the old Crown bar was open.

Zak X:

And Why

Paul:

did they plucking open that

Chrissy:

big outside with my girlfriend, Jenny Davis, and she was telling me some crap about her husband and them fighting and this and that. And we were all on our motorcycles that night. I had literally just got off work from here at 10PM. Went home, changed, met up with Jim or whatever because he was alive. Then my first husband passed away.

Chrissy:

And met up with him, and then we rode to the Mystic and to them went to Crown Bar. Oh, yeah. So it was midnight ish at the time. So, anyway, this girl is drunk outside. Like, I don't know if you remember the old Crown Bar.

Chrissy:

You're probably too young.

Paul:

With the

Chrissy:

But the parking lot was, like, on a slant. So, like, when you pulled up on your bike Yeah. I mean, it was, like, on a hill. Right. So everyone pulled in forward.

Paul:

Front of it? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Chrissy:

Yep. So, like, when everyone anyone would ride their bikes in there, I mean, you were going up a hill to park. So everyone would just park forward. Nobody backed their bikes.

Paul:

Right. Well, you

Chrissy:

So we all parked or whatever, and all of sudden, I'm sitting, like, on the porch with my facing the building with parking lots behind me, and I'm talking to my girlfriend. All of a sudden, we hear this crash, you know, or whatever. And from probably here to the wall over there, I could see, and I'm just a a motorcycle is laying on top of a chick. And I'm like, holy shit. That's Jim's bike.

Chrissy:

That was the blue bike. He had just got it. Just got it back from Tim Wolfe. Didn't even have Ugh. 300 miles on it.

Chrissy:

And I'm like, oh my god. Here she sat on the bike. Oh, fuck. Because it was on a hill. She fucking gonna learn today.

Chrissy:

Yep. And it tipped over on her He was even there? Was that

Zak X:

He was there.

Chrissy:

He was there, but he was inside the bike.

Zak X:

Oh, god.

Chrissy:

So I'm like, holy fuck, Jenny. That's Jim's bike. She was with a guy. He picked the bike up off of her, set it back on the kickstand, and then they were trying to scurry away. Dude.

Chrissy:

And I'm like, fuck that. You weren't running away or So I like like, hey. I'm like, hey. Hey. Stop or whatever.

Chrissy:

And her and I ended up getting getting into it or getting into a fight or whatever. I think I grabbed her shirt and it ripped because she had a tank top on with, like, flannel a on over it or something because she was trying to leave the scene.

Paul:

Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

And I fucking grabbed her shirt and it ripped, and then she kinda came after me or whatever. And so we got into it, and this girl was not little. She was pretty big girl. Cup two couple hundred pounds for sure.

Zak X:

That's a huge bitch. Yeah. She was a

Chrissy:

big bitch. And so we got into it, and I punched her, I don't know, like, I don't know, like, four or five times in the face. Yep. And gave her a nice shiner or whatever. But

Paul:

then a record.

Chrissy:

Went in and got Jim, you know, and it was a, you know, kind of a done deal. He split us up or whatever. And so he ended up getting her driver's license, her information. He goes, you fucking did damage to my bike, you know, which she did. And it ended up being, I don't know, a substantial amount of damage, like, or 5,000.

Paul:

Dude, it takes literally nothing.

Chrissy:

Wait. On a Harley. Yeah.

Paul:

Set of bags and a tank and a fucking bar or something.

Chrissy:

Wanna say it was like

Paul:

right there.

Chrissy:

Either between 4 and $6,000 worth

Paul:

of Let alone paint.

Chrissy:

And so he's like, I want your driver's license, blah blah Nobody called the cops that night, like, because you know? And I I was sober because I literally had just got there.

Paul:

Right.

Chrissy:

And so make a really long story short about Jim got her information. She turned it into her homeowner's insurance. I don't even know how that works, but her homeowner's insurance paid his bill on his bike. Yep. Holy shit.

Chrissy:

I don't know how she did that, she did. Anyways, he got his bike fixed or paid for, you know, whatever, by her homeowner's insurance. This was in June. I think it was 06/07/2007. And

Paul:

Fucked as a hug.

Chrissy:

In, I wanna say, September or October, all of sudden, I get a letter in the mail. No cops were ever called. No one ever called me. No one got my side of the story. No one asked me any questions.

Chrissy:

No one asked my friends questions. Nothing was ever said. I got a letter in the mail saying I was being charged with third degree felony assault Wow. For this fight.

Paul:

From her?

Chrissy:

From her.

Zak X:

Okay.

Chrissy:

She said now her claim was I broke her collarbone by slamming her into a car. That was her claim, which clearly it never happened.

Paul:

I was gonna say fuck fell on her side.

Chrissy:

Are gonna show that that's bullshit. But she did break her collarbone. What if she but the bike fell

Paul:

on her. Oh, yeah.

Chrissy:

She hit the pavement. Yeah. But clearly, that's how she broke her collarbone. Clearly.

Zak X:

Say, you're not a very big

Chrissy:

It was her right side. Yep. You know? But she told the police in the in the hospital or whatever

Paul:

You did it.

Chrissy:

That I did it. Yeah. So that's how they got me with third degree felony because it's bodily harm. Right. So anyhow, I got that.

Chrissy:

I was telling you the other day or yesterday that ended up having to go to court on that, hire a lawyer

Zak X:

Mhmm.

Chrissy:

And blah blah blah. But yeah.

Paul:

All that money spent for a lawyer, court, bullshit, time off

Chrissy:

Then she because some

Paul:

fucking Yeah. Lie.

Chrissy:

So she wanted to get rest restitution because she couldn't work because her collarbone was broken. So she was trying to come after me for for real. Yeah. Anyway, I got

Paul:

Get your job getting my money worth.

Zak X:

Well

Chrissy:

I had to go to court. I had to hire a lawyer that cost me $2,500. We're talking that was back in 2007. That's lot

Paul:

of fucking

Chrissy:

money I could even go to court the second time my husband dies. So now I've been in this all all alone. You know? And go I to court. I think it wasn't even until 2009, and I had met Mike then, and Mike went with me.

Chrissy:

But prior to that, they had given me, like, conditions when I went to court the first time, like you said, and I should have just not taken the conditions, but my lawyer said, ah, don't worry about it. Mhmm. So we did a promo. I wasn't because it happened at a bar, even though I wasn't the one drunk she was, they made it so I wasn't supposed to go on any bars or liquor stores unless it was the one that I owned. So we did a promo at the Mystic one night for Halloween, and I was in there and there was pictures taken put on Facebook on social media.

Chrissy:

Wasn't even Facebook back then, but I think it was on our website. I think it was on our website for the liquor store. Anyways, that's how

Paul:

They go.

Chrissy:

I ended up going to jail. I was working here one morning, and the fucking cops showed up here to arrest me. I'm like, what? And they're like, we can't believe this is even happening. But this girl that I beat up hated me so bad.

Chrissy:

Like, she was constantly, like, following me and creeping on me and, like Yeah. Anything she would see me do, she'd send in to the prosecutor.

Paul:

For fucking

Chrissy:

So they I had to call Sarah. I'm like, I'm going to jail.

Paul:

So come run the store.

Chrissy:

Yeah. I did. I did. I'm like, they're taking me to jail. So can you come up to the store?

Chrissy:

And even the Isanti County cop or the Sherwin County cops, they had to arrest me. Didn't put cops or anything on me. They're like, we've never seen this before in our lives. Had to meet them at the Isanti County the county line or whatever on 4. Met with an Isanti cop.

Chrissy:

Yep. None of the cops could believe that they were actually taking me to jail for this.

Paul:

What the fuck?

Chrissy:

So it was basically I got thrown in jail because I wasn't following my conditions because she sent pictures of me in a bar to the prosecutor. Horse. So they sent out a warrant for me. Shifty little fucker. So anyhow, I was on a Friday conveniently.

Chrissy:

Oh. But I went in in the morning. They kept saying they were gonna let me out there. You know, I'd go see the judge that day, and I'd be home. No.

Chrissy:

They purposely I found out after the fact he purposefully delayed it, I'd have to spend the weekend there. Really? Yeah. Yep. So I got to spend it with a bunch of meth heads.

Zak X:

What do you remember from there? Like, what smells or what

Chrissy:

what What smells?

Zak X:

Yeah. Because I just had this fucking smell. This gym smell.

Chrissy:

County, and it was with a bunch of women that I just remember that was I was in a brown jumps uit with the ugly bras and underwears they gotta give you and you gotta wear.

Paul:

No. Fuck.

Chrissy:

I did a lot of push ups, a lot of sit ups. I they did have a phone in there I could use and talk to Jim or whatever at the time. But, yeah, Ended up seeing the judge on Monday, which ended up being Christmas Eve morning. And so I then I I got out. But yeah.

Chrissy:

Three days in that shithole for literally nothing. And I was telling all these girls because apparently, these girls that were my roommates, they were all on the same drug bust at, like, some meth house or whatever or some meth sting or whatever. Oh, really? So yeah.

Zak X:

So they're all cool with each other, and you're this fucking

Chrissy:

Yeah. But they all liked me. Thank god. I didn't have any problems in there. So I was like, I really don't belong here.

Chrissy:

And I tell them my story and, like, you really are a victim of this. I mean, how do you arrest someone without ever getting their side of the story?

Zak X:

I don't understand.

Chrissy:

Charge someone? Not one person ever called me and talked to me about it. Never got my side. They just took her side and went with it.

Paul:

That's weird how they can even do that.

Zak X:

Well They did. Yesterday, I had a rock come through my win or through my window. Yeah. I fucking call Hennepin County.

Chrissy:

Through your window of your car?

Zak X:

Yep. Okay. So Jesus. Yeah. The video will be out in the next day or two.

Zak X:

But, basically, talk shit to somebody. Uh-oh. He throws fucking rock, comes through, hits my windshield, didn't crack my windshield. Well, it was already cracked, but I'm not gonna try to play that card.

Chrissy:

Sure.

Zak X:

But I called the cops. They're like, okay. We'll send somebody. And they didn't fucking send anybody for probably ten, fifteen minutes because the cops called me seventeen minutes later, we're on our way. Like, okay.

Zak X:

Well, I just circled back and he's already gone. So this is fucking pointless.

Paul:

Yeah.

Zak X:

Yeah. I got the rock, but that's all I got for you.

Paul:

Yeah. Right? Well, it's like fucking

Zak X:

They don't give a fucking

Chrissy:

Yeah. Exactly.

Paul:

Well, between defunding the police and all that shit, it's just like people wonder why people who are two a carry.

Zak X:

It's like,

Paul:

are you fucking serious? Right. Look at how long it takes for anyone to show up for just the most simple fucking basic thing in fucking town where they're already driving around. Now imagine you live fifteen, twenty miles out of town, and you've got an emergency. Who the who the fuck's gonna show up?

Zak X:

That that's that's exactly how I felt yesterday. I'm like, what if somebody actually had a fucking emergency?

Paul:

Right. What the fuck is

Chrissy:

this bullshit? I feel like the the George Floyd Square there. I mean, those peep people that own homes there, like, in that area, the cops won't even come there. Like I know.

Zak X:

I've seen them drive through.

Chrissy:

Have you? Or emergency drive through. Or, like, ambulance

Zak X:

I think it's just what everybody portrays.

Chrissy:

Okay.

Zak X:

No. The police have to stay out, but, no, I don't think I don't think it's like that. I just think that they just probably just fucking let them be. Well, the heck It's also fucked up. I don't know what the fuck's going on because, to be honest, my phone was stolen.

Zak X:

My flag was stolen. My megaphone was crushed. Yeah. And I was assaulted At

Chrissy:

at the

Zak X:

from the fight.

Chrissy:

From the fight.

Zak X:

Okay. I was assaulted by ear for

Chrissy:

You never did get your phone back?

Zak X:

No. Fuck no. $1,400

Chrissy:

gone. Serious?

Zak X:

Yeah. No. Fuck no. Oh, yeah. No.

Zak X:

I even try because it was like, yeah. What am I gonna do? Yeah, where am I gonna?

Chrissy:

Remember hearing where's my phone? Where's my phone

Paul:

waste more time and money trying to get the fucking sense like,

Zak X:

yeah, just move on. Because these people are fucking so deranged. Just keep moving forward. That's like, that's all I've been doing. Like, I could sit and try to, like, lawsuit here, lawsuit there, but it's like, that's not my fucking mission.

Zak X:

My mission isn't money. It's it's literally, like, change.