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The bears are back and immediately debating whether they'd survive the Winter Olympics — spoiler: they would absolutely dominate curling and they have zero doubt about it. From bobsled physics to skeleton luge jiggle physics, Grizz and Ice Bear rapid fire their way through every Winter Olympic sport with the kind of unbridled confidence that can only come from two guys who have never done any of these things.
The conversation takes its usual detours through whiskey deadlifts and the sweet spot between liquid courage and actual strength training, Texas hospitality vs Pacific Northwest coldness, Hawaiian sovereignty and illegal annexation, Maui fire blue roof conspiracies, and why Tacoma deserves more respect than it gets.
Hosts:
Grizz:
Ice Bear:
Untappd Accounts:
Takeaways:
Grizz and Ice Bear would be unstoppable at curling
Weight is a superpower in winter sports
Whiskey deadlifts are a legitimate training tool
Texas and Canadian hospitality are basically the same thing
If beer drinking were an Olympic sport they would absolutely medal
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Delectable Brews
03:30 Exploring Winter Olympic Sports
06:28 Sledding and Snow Activities
09:29 The Thrill of Bobsledding and Luge
12:26 Childhood Winter Memories
15:31 Snowboarding vs. Skiing
18:28 Holiday Traditions and Family Memories
22:43 The Struggles of Weather and Training
25:48 Liquid Courage and Lifting
28:29 The Trap Bar Deadlift Debate
30:38 Front Squats vs. Back Squats
34:28 Craft Beer Ratings and Preferences
39:15 Cultural Identity and National Pride
46:49 Southern Hospitality and Community Bonds
49:56 Cultural Differences in Hospitality
51:54 The Importance of Belonging
53:44 Acts of Kindness in Everyday Life
56:27 Navigating Social Norms Across Regions
58:08 Finding Connection in New Places
59:31 Rapid Fire Sports Discussion
01:09:29 Beer Reviews and Closing Thoughts
01:10:57 Episode Outro 39.mp4
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Keywords:
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What is 2 Bears 2 Beers?
"2 Bears 2 Beers" is a fun and laid-back podcast where two friends, often indulging in a beer or two, chat about anything and everything. From quirky stories to random thoughts, it’s all about enjoying great conversation and sharing laughs in a relaxed, no-pressure vibe. Perfect for anyone looking to unwind and have a good time!
Grizz (00:42)
This one smells good.
Ice Bear (00:47)
This one also smells, I believe what the kids call delectable.
Grizz (00:52)
I thought you were going say scrimmily umptious.
Ice Bear (00:55)
That too. There's definitely scrumdiddles. I will I will soon verify the umptiousness.
Grizz (01:04)
This smells like one of my all time favorite hops.
Ice Bear (01:09)
which is mosaic. Citra. All citra. All right. What do you have over there?
Grizz (01:12)
No, that's up there, but there you go.
this right here.
Ice Bear (01:24)
⁓ I feel like we have an unintentional little pairing today.
Grizz (01:29)
This right here is from the great notion, the great notion. I didn't get an L, you saying that as in this is from Portland, Oregon, but the great notion that's right here is just a hazy citri, but this is ripe. This is a just.
Ice Bear (01:48)
that's that's
really good. Is this a skeleton wearing a cowboy hat?
Grizz (01:52)
I think it's a pirate hat. I think it's a pirate. And the boys just fucking munching on hops. Yeah, and this guy's just like munching on hops. This is a bright, this is called ripe. Hazy, EPA, 7 % and great notion. And the old Portland of A.
Ice Bear (01:54)
a pirate hat. And like, ⁓ and like a burb on the shoulder. that's very good.
I love this. Okay.
Well, that's.
Well, let me tell you, we're off to a good start. We're off to a very good start because I also have something in the, in the, in the IPA family from the makers of very good beer. The lads at Dominion city over in Ottawa, they've worked out something. Well, you just need to take a gander at it. This is glorious and free. Look at this aggressive beaver boxing.
just ready to go ready to tussle being glorious being free this is a 6.5 % I have no no notes no notes at all beyond that so
Grizz (02:43)
and free look at that
very very nice
You don't need no notes when you're free.
Ice Bear (02:58)
It smells pineapple-y. It smells pineapple-y. And the glorious and free made me think of a little something that's topical because sometimes we're topical, sometimes we're current. You know what's coming up? The Winter Olympics are coming up.
Grizz (03:18)
fucking curling
Ice Bear (03:20)
which led me to wonder, how would we do if we were involved in Winter Olympic sports?
Grizz (03:30)
⁓ So I've seen enough videos of the losers, the losers of juggle physics. I think, I think looking at both of us, I think we, I think we can do very well. Yeah.
Ice Bear (03:44)
do some losing. All
right. So so I even I prepped for this a little bit. I found a list of sports because I don't really know what they do in the Winter Olympics. Other than I other than I know there's tennis rackets and shooting, which I love. I don't know what that's called. Like they they attach. They look like tennis rackets. They're like snowshoes. And they just walk really far and then they shoot targets for some reason. Like that's a sport.
Grizz (03:50)
Ooh.
Yeah, I get It's curling.
That way.
⁓
I had no idea that was a sport. know curling, snowboarding, and the luge.
Ice Bear (04:13)
So you.
Yeah, apparently there's more, because those are kind of the ones I was aware of. Everything you mentioned in hockey. All right, so first thing up here, alpine skiing. Now, this is also, all I have is the name of the sport and a small little infographic of a basically a stick figure doing it. So my assumption is it's downhill.
Grizz (04:41)
So is it,
as you're going through the fucking trees, like faster shit, that is actually cool as fuck. That is actually like quintessential winters. That's fucking cool. I just imagine it. I just imagine like, it's like a forest down slope thing. And there's like fucking a hundred people just going down and whoever makes it down, fucking, you know, they win. That's cool as fuck.
Ice Bear (04:46)
I think I think so. think this is the one where they're zooming.
tremendously cool.
I feel like if it's the one I'm thinking of, they do it one at a time and it's just like best time, which makes it a little less cool.
Grizz (05:15)
It's still
cool, but it's still weird and it's cool. just, you know, you just think of the thing where everybody just goes into the thing and whoever makes it out, makes it out. And then like when they, somebody doesn't come and like their family's on the bottom. And it was like, the forest has him now. You know I mean? Like.
Ice Bear (05:29)
Kind of
⁓ like the X Games thing with the bikes where they all like leap that gate at the same time and then they just three of them crash immediately. Yes, that would be. I hope it's that I don't think it's that, but I hope it's that that would be much cooler. Regardless.
Grizz (05:38)
Yeah, I just imagine like, it'd be so fucking cool.
That'd be so fucking awesome. I hope
if that's not that, I hope the fucking steroids one does it.
Ice Bear (05:54)
yeah, the, the, what are those called? The, power games, the real games, the, the roid bowl, whatever it's called. Yes, I agree. ⁓ but with the original question, I think I'd be fucking terrible at that.
Grizz (06:09)
yeah, fuck yeah, would die. I've never skied in my life. I'm dead.
Ice Bear (06:11)
I think
I would yeah, think I would perish almost immediately. this came up faster than I thought it would. So the snapping tennis rackets to your feet and then shooting stuff, it's called a biathlon.
Grizz (06:28)
So they're gay.
Ice Bear (06:30)
Yep, yep, you have to like hogs and hoo-has to compete. And also the stick figure has skis, so I guess maybe I imagined the tennis rackets and now they ski and then shoot stuff.
Grizz (06:31)
knew it.
Ice Bear (06:45)
It's probably that. That makes a little more sense. But now here's...
Grizz (06:46)
Maybe the bipartisan skis and tennis rackets.
Like you start off with
skis and you score quick and then you jump into tennis rackets and then you run to go shoot.
Ice Bear (07:00)
Which part got added on? Did they want to do shooting and they're like, nah, we need to make it harder and put them on skis or did they want to ski and they're like, but you know, it's better than just skiing. Let's shoot some shit.
Grizz (07:09)
Shoot
I Think cuz cuz shootings are the winter one right so maybe summer one maybe they're like we can't have it in both What we just ski and then it's winter right and then like alright fuck let's do that
Ice Bear (07:21)
I hope it's that. I hope it's that simple.
That would be very good. yeah, that's, that's, that's excellent. That's how I'm going to imagine it came into existence from now on. ⁓
Grizz (07:34)
Again, skiing I fuck up, can shoot but I don't know about skiing.
Ice Bear (07:37)
So that one, I feel like that's not downhill. I feel like you're just kind of walking on them. I could be totally misremembering it. If it's...
Grizz (07:44)
I think it'd be alright. I've seen enough South
Park where I know pizza, french fries and pizza, french fries and pizza slice. And I think I'll be able to do it enough so I won't have a very bad time. So I think I might be okay on this one.
Ice Bear (07:58)
That's that's kind of how I feel. I feel like I could just give it a shot and be okay at it. It seems like
Grizz (08:04)
Yeah, I think I think it'd be all right. I think it'll be
like the we can kind of be like them lizards around water
Ice Bear (08:11)
Yes, 100%. Yep. Just bears in the snow, just frolicking and shooting. I wonder what kind of guns they are. You think they're rifles or do you think they've got to be rifles? They can't be handguns, right?
Grizz (08:13)
You know, just be fucking flapping.
I don't know, the Lumpus got some fucking retarded looking guns.
Ice Bear (08:33)
Shit. Well, that's something I'm gonna have to pay attention to and actually watch. I'm curious now.
here's the one where our bear derrières would be an advantage. Wait, no, is bobsled the same thing as luge? Nope, it's clearly not. Nope, there's two different pictures.
Grizz (08:48)
think Bob says where you're
in, you're in the vessel, right?
Ice Bear (08:54)
The picture looks like a little spaceship with a couple of people in it.
Grizz (08:58)
Yeah, I think
it'd be fine because like, it? Okay.
Ice Bear (09:02)
Is this the Koopa Gooding Jr. thing? Is this the cool runnings? Yes, right?
Grizz (09:07)
I think so. I just know that when you go to Schlitterbund in Texas, which, you go to the water park, you want to get with a fat person when you have the double inner tube thing, because the added weight makes you go way faster on the water slide. And like, that's the fucking, that's the jam. Right. So like, I think you and I together in this vessel, if it's the same similar ⁓
Ice Bear (09:29)
You
Grizz (09:36)
similar concept i think we'll be fucking zooming
Ice Bear (09:40)
Okay, so if this is, I don't know if it's this or the luge, but one of them, I feel like you get up like 80, 90 miles an hour in these little things. Because I'm pretty sure towards the bottom of them, they like take turns and the little vessels like really riding the wall and they're like, God, the risk of injury and death is high in this sport. They are freaking out every time and then nothing ever happens, which would be.
kind of interesting to watch. It's like a NASCAR crash.
Grizz (10:12)
think it's probably both, right? Cause like, I think even more so with the other one, the loose one, cause it's just like a slide where they run and then they jump belly first onto the thing and they just go down the fucking thing. Yeah, like, yeah, like seals, yeah.
Ice Bear (10:23)
That's right, like little seals. Yeah.
Did you see the video of there's just like a middle aged dude, I think he was in West Virginia. And he was just like, I think this is the only chance I'll ever have to glide down my driveway like a penguin on my belly. And he just cheated himself down his driveway. It looked like a great time. And like ABC News picked it up. I was like, what a what a great like fluff story.
That's what the world needs right now. Just guy on belly down driveway.
Grizz (11:00)
Yeah.
You know.
That's one thing I do envy about like snowplaces. Like, granted there's so much like shady things about snow. I ⁓ living vicariously through you. am not jealous of you at all. But one of the things is just all the snow nanigans as like being kids and stuff. I imagine like is a huge thing. I think somebody actually just died in Texas.
Ice Bear (11:19)
⁓
because of snow.
Grizz (11:36)
Yeah. Like, cause it's like the next Alaska this year happened. And I'm pretty sure somebody fucking like was sliding down the highway or some shit. Yeah. Which they do. They do it every year, which is like, it's kind of cool. And I got one, you know, like what you do to you take a sled and you take you go off the fucking interstate and you go down one of the big Hills. That sounds fun.
Ice Bear (11:40)
⁓ perished from the cold. ⁓ just being stupid. Damn.
You gotta try it. It could be the only time you get to try it.
Now, now here's the question. Did you guys act?
Did you have legitimate sleds or did you use makeshift stuff?
Grizz (12:05)
I has to be make sure stuff. They sell sleds and they don't saw any sleds here in Texas.
Ice Bear (12:08)
That's well, that's I was wondering.
So what was what was the thing that you guys would use if you did?
Because for us, was one particular mode of transport that was very popular.
Grizz (12:22)
trash can lids. Yeah, that makes some sense. Plastic or metal. So the metal ones here to here's what I've always thought to the metal ones doesn't handle interfere at all.
Ice Bear (12:26)
Yeah. Metal.
⁓ So the ones that we had, the handles were on the side, not on the top. They're the ones out to the side. So you almost had like, it was like grips, you could kind of steer. The other thing that we used to do is we take the trucks off our skateboards. And we try and snowboard, which if if the snow was like that thick, wet snow, it would work the dry fluffy shit would never it just like
Grizz (12:41)
yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, gotcha,
Yes, that sounds awesome.
Ice Bear (13:04)
You just condense it to the ground. Yeah. So you needed to have it packed down almost like ice for it to function. But when it did, it was pretty cool.
Grizz (13:05)
Sing. Yeah.
to against that's just one thing where I'm like a little, you know, I'm jealous of now that I'm here, like in the fucking the, the PN dubs, like I'm like, you know, I can pick up a winter, a winter activity, but the thing is the barrier entry as far as like costs is high. And so I'm like, do I want to waste money on this?
Ice Bear (13:29)
Mm-hmm.
the, the cheapest thing you can do is, ⁓ tubing.
Which is very fun. Pretty much, yeah.
Grizz (13:45)
So just to enter tube on the smell.
Fuck. Yeah. I love. like, you know, I'd imagine because like, so, know, like tubing in Texas, you're just in the river and that's just fun as fuck. You have, you have, you have a colony of people that all, all they are chilling on inner tubes. You're just drinking, shooting this shit, just rolling down the river. And then you have another inner tube with an ice chest of beer. Like it's fucking awesome.
Ice Bear (13:52)
They go fast.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
Yep. Now this, this you're launching yourself down a, down a hill and or mountain. It is fun. It is fun indeed.
Grizz (14:21)
That sounds fucking fun as shit.
Yeah, because I feel like I could do stoneboarding.
Ice Bear (14:30)
Dude, snowboarding is rough.
Grizz (14:33)
I hear it's hard but I feel like I can do it. I don't think I can do skiing too great. But think I can snowboard fine.
Ice Bear (14:39)
So you can skate, right? Okay, if you can skate, you'd be fine. The thing is, because your feet are locked into the bindings, that takes a little getting used to. So like the first time, because the seal took me for the first time I did it. And I was like on my ass constantly. Because it's just like, I wanted to move my foot, because I'm used to like having to push.
push, kick, push. And so like when your foot is just locked into that front position and you will kind of want to like shift your balance, it's like you have to shift with your hips, not so much like your knees and your ankles. Yeah. So it is fun. Like don't get me wrong. It's fun. And I think you would be fine with it, but it's, it's not as intuitive as I wanted it to be.
Grizz (15:18)
All in the hips. It's all in the hips.
That's fair. I can see that.
Ice Bear (15:34)
Mm. Mm-mm.
Grizz (15:35)
That's one though that where I always felt like I can do that. I see skiing. I'm like, Ooh, I don't know about that. But I, when I see snowboarding, I'm like, although I know it's way more different than like, like skateboarding. I'm like, yeah, I've been on a board enough. You know, I can, I'll at least like know what it feels like moving.
Ice Bear (15:53)
Yeah.
Yeah,
you know the problem that I bet you would have a problem, possibly even worse than me. No, maybe not. Because I think your center of gravity is a little better than mine. This is the bad thing about being tall. So when you're getting up, because your feet are in the bindings, like you have to kind of be so hills down and you have to be kind of perpendicular to it. And then getting yourself up, you have to be able to like, just stand up from being stuck in the snow.
And so like your option are be flexible enough to grip mid board and kind of like deadlift your own body up into standing or just like Shawn Michaels hop up and get yourself there. But like, there's no real good way to do it solo. So like you either have to have someone there with you to help you pick up or you're like a little turtle sometimes.
Grizz (16:51)
Just like the fucking Christmas story. I can't get up. I can't get up.
Ice Bear (16:56)
Mm
hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. And then you get your tongue stuck to a flagpole. Dark times.
Grizz (17:05)
⁓
fuuuu-
Ice Bear (17:07)
Yeah.
Grizz (17:10)
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Ice Bear (17:13)
I hate that movie so much ⁓
Grizz (17:15)
I don't hate
the thing is like, so like my aunt fucking love that movie. There's like, while we were friends, I know, ⁓ there was one time, my family's always celebrated Christmas on new years because like my family's always been in a lot of them in hospitality nurse, some of them are like, like nurses, ⁓ like medical building stuff and then like country clubs and all the part-timeers, whatever stuff. Right. So like Christmas is always a big thing.
Ice Bear (17:17)
Thank ⁓
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (17:45)
So we would always celebrate Christmas on New Year's and it's fucking dope as shit because it's like, you know, like the family would have like the media families would have like a little Christmas on Christmas, but then like we have the big family party on New Year's. like we'd go like we'd go and we've done it both ways. have like a big party. was just a bunch of food, everything that's had, and then we go pop a fuck ton of fireworks at midnight and then come back in open presents. It's dope as fuck. Sometimes.
Ice Bear (17:45)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
New Year's. Nice.
That is fun.
Grizz (18:14)
We eat a bunch of food, open presents, and then go blow up shit and fireworks. guess like, like either way, like it's cool as fuck. So it's super great. Like I really fucking liked that. ⁓
So one of the, while we were already good acquaintances, bro bears and all that stuff at the time, my aunt fucking loves a Christmas story. Maybe because my uncle, his name is Ralph, so we always call him Ralphie. So maybe it deals with that a little bit. But the thing is like ever since I was a kid,
Ice Bear (18:48)
Could be that.
Grizz (18:53)
I know. So like it was funny as it like, was always, cause you were like TBS or TNT, whichever channel they would play it fucking all the time. My aunt would have it playing on the TV all the time. Like during that. Right. So the thing is for me, I never sat down and watched the movie whole like my entire life, but I seen a fuck ton of parts, right? I seen a fuck ton of parts, right? But I had no, I never thought that I saw the whole movie.
Ice Bear (18:59)
TBS.
non-stop.
This is this is why hate it.
You've just you've just seen every part of it at one point or another.
Grizz (19:21)
You know what mean? Like, cause I could never like sat there and like, so I watched it. And then again, I would go to his laugh and we'd call my, my Theo Ralph Ralphie. Right. Like it was always the thing. And then, know, like BB guns and guns and like, you know, just dry out kid and all that stuff. Fun to sell all the stuff. Cool. Um, and then finally, like in my mid twenties, like I was freaking like, I finally sat down and watched it. I'm like, I've seen this whole fucking movie and I had no idea that like.
Ice Bear (19:22)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓
and
Ha
Grizz (19:49)
I know every one of these scenes, but I just saw the entire movie like through parts my entire life and didn't know it. ⁓ But that being said, like while we while we were Roevares and everything, because my aunt loves it so much. The time she got me and my fucking cousin, who's like two years old, like, you know, our grown ass man, she got us the pink bunny monster fucking pajama suits to embarrass us. And we're like, now we were in the shit.
Ice Bear (19:52)
Yeah.
Amazing.
Grizz (20:19)
And
so like you got like two fucking bang ass dudes in the pink, the pink bunny suits, fucking lighting fireworks on fucking New Year's.
Ice Bear (20:25)
Dude, that was like
Well, this was like, that was like, I think it was after the episode we did on the old podcast where Q was the guest. And I had a pink gloomy bear kigurumi. I just took the dogs for a walk. And I was just thinking like, man, the fucking poor Haitian people that are just like, Delaware, what a nice place.
Wait a second, why is white man walking wolves in a pink kigurumi? That also is like the bloody kigurumi too, is that like the angry gloomy bear? But that was fun. It was a good time.
Grizz (21:05)
Yeah.
It was just like, ⁓ I remember.
When we were in LA and I was squatting in the Otter Kigurumi. I remember like this random dude, he's like, he does like cool film stuff and he was like, had just recorded. He's like, only in LA. It's just a dude squatting, you know, 400 plus pounds in fucking Otter Kigurumi.
Ice Bear (21:32)
You
Dude, was like, Barb Elbergate is, it's cool, but goddamn, what an overly priced piece of shit.
Grizz (21:49)
Oh, fucking God
damn. Like, I still think about that in the sense of like how much money we fucking spent like on fucking day passes. Yeah. Even if it was even even if it was 20 a day.
Ice Bear (21:58)
Was it 20 a day or 25 a day? Whatever it was, it was too much.
It was more than my monthly.
Grizz (22:07)
Yeah. Even if it was 20 a day, we easily totality of everything we spent was like easily fucking 300 bucks in a fucking week. Like it was a lot. It was, it was, Yeah. Which I don't mind. I like, I, again, I love warehouse gyms. I love like the cold ass fucking winters and ⁓ California doesn't have a bike in Texas. We're in the warehouse. I love the fucking.
Ice Bear (22:14)
Yeah, yeah, it was rough. was rough. And also hot.
Yeah.
Grizz (22:36)
no AC warehouse gym with a fucking just a school gymnasium fan and then like in the open door and then the coldest fuck fucking 10 degree fucking just cold gym where you gotta like warm up in your fucking just a hoodie and thing until you get warm enough and then you can like take them off. Like I love that shit personally. Like I love both. ⁓ I just like, I don't know. It feels like I'm working harder.
Ice Bear (22:43)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mmm.
Grizz (23:04)
know what I mean? Like I saw, love the hottest balls, fucking summers and the coldest fuck stupid fucking no central heating winners in gyms. Like I don't like you grab the bar. Well, you know, like either it's hot or it's cold. I got it. I don't know. I like it. But like again, but, but then again, spending a hundred dollars in a week and it's fucking hot as a fucking Komodo dragon nutsack. Any fucking great.
Ice Bear (23:18)
Dude, I hate the hot. can do the cold, but not the hot.
Mmm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good times, good times. I wonder how long I wonder it in my advanced elder years. I wonder how long I could plank with old gris on my back. Also, I also wonder, could could that time be extended? If I had some beers first.
Grizz (24:02)
I think there's the, there is like a sweet spot, right? Like there's the thing of like liquid courage. Cause cause again, like that's the thing. Like when you hit like a deadlift, you're scared of.
Ice Bear (24:07)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (24:14)
hitting a shot, taking a shot, taking two shots, you know, to be like right before him.
Ice Bear (24:18)
Dude, the whiskey and deadlifts thing is real.
Grizz (24:22)
It's so fucking great. Like, again, it's, it's the best thing that ever says is like, when you had get the liquid courage and you're like trying to like hype yourself up to talk to some, uh, uh, a nice, uh, a nice bar Bella or like the whole, the whole concept of like, you're a shy boy and like, you just take a, do you drink a beer or something to like, give you the liquid courage enough to go.
Ice Bear (24:36)
Barbell.
Grizz (24:50)
to go talk to said pretty less is a thing. The heavy, heavy, heavy weight that you're not, as you've never done before is the pretty last. And it's very much a thing. And it's fucking awesome. Like people that, that, know, the, the don't know game is a hard sell, but it's fucking fun to have like a devil of party where like everybody's kind of like going for some stupid shit that they've never done before while taking shots of like whiskey.
Ice Bear (25:18)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (25:21)
It's fun as fuck.
Ice Bear (25:23)
It's also like one of those tricky things where you Yes, I agree with everything you've said, like it is fun. I think it's worth doing. But will you dancing line and also you have to make sure that everyone there the baseline is knowing what they're doing. Like you've got to have a certain degree of muscle memory built in. Like this, this is not something that like guy that's just been to the gym for two months can join in the party.
Grizz (25:31)
Where'd you dance the line?
That's fair.
Ice Bear (25:48)
Like you've got to also, you've got to know like when you're fucking your backup, like you've got to be at least like that intermediate stage where like you've you've hit some plateaus.
Grizz (25:48)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is all like, Lester.
No, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. Like it's that. Because I think the thing is like the whole like whiskey part of the deadlift thing is it's you're not drinking enough for your fucking stupid and like you can't do shit and you're like on your ass. You're drinking and your inhibitions are lowered enough to very like you're not worried about fucking hurting yourself. You're just going to fucking go for it.
Ice Bear (26:09)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (26:21)
but you have enough muscle memory where you've the moving up to where you know you're like, you're not going to hurt yourself because you fucking know how to do it. And you don't have to think about it.
Ice Bear (26:21)
because
Cause like everyone that's
done powerlifting for say, I think a year is long enough. Maybe even six months is long enough.
Grizz (26:35)
Yeah, I
would say even like fucking four or five months. Have you done a couple of blocks? Like a couple of 12 week programs and you're good.
Ice Bear (26:42)
Yeah.
I think the main thing is like, if you have that shot or two, you go from like, having, I don't know, for me, realistically, I probably have four or five mental cues at all times, the minute I get up to the bar.
Grizz (26:46)
Yeah, six months.
Ice Bear (27:05)
screw your heels into the floor, bend the bar like shoulders up like there's a bunch of things I'm thinking about. Whereas if I had a drink or two, I'm probably going to minimize that down to just fucking grip it and rip it boy.
Grizz (27:11)
I got two.
Yeah, I got two. had all the things and even like when I like get help people like are like trade people it's you know, we have a couple but I just have two. But then again, like I've done it for so long.
Ice Bear (27:28)
What are your two?
Grizz (27:32)
My literally thing is just fucking...
The two that I think of is just one, just pull slack, go like that's all that I think of. it's just, it's just that, right? So like, but you go and you expound upon that. It's like, yeah, I go, well, I like, go get out the bar, set my, like my lats into the barbell, whatever, only in my le, laying back enough to where like everything's tight to where I have like the weight on my heels. then I can pull up.
Ice Bear (27:41)
Ha ha ha!
Yeah.
Grizz (28:03)
But all the stuff just is like second nature to where it's just all I think about it is I go grab engage to pull the slack out of the bar towards tight and then fucking go like, you know, I'm driving up and fucking squeezing my glutes forward and like it's all the same go kind of shit. So like it all kind of, it all goes into, but all I think of all the time is like, it's the slack out the bar and then fucking drive and push as hard as I got. That's all I think about is just slack out. Go.
Ice Bear (28:12)
Mmm. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are old Grizz's thoughts on a nice trap bar deadlift?
Grizz (28:41)
I think...
I think so in the thing of just general functional saying that I think it's and powerlifting. doesn't mean shit. I do think trap bar, Dallas are dope for like, if you do Dallas or whatever and you have, ⁓ injuries, it's cool. ⁓ if it's off season, you're just trying to like, keep shit fucking great. You know what I mean? Fun stuff. And you want to like move some fucking weight. Like it's fun.
Ice Bear (29:15)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Grizz (29:18)
You know, like move, move a lot of weight with like less little fatigue. think it's cool. ⁓ general fitness stuff, like for people, I think it's cool. I think it's, I think with trap bar delos, things are good is I don't think it's as thing as regular delos, but it's not as fatiguing. You can do more weight. You boosters like kind of like self thing is you're pushing weight on it and everything. And so like, are like doing work because it's like, and like, it's a movement.
Ice Bear (29:22)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Grizz (29:45)
But like it's, it's boosting your ego. It's boosting. Also, I think it has like, I think for like a pile of like off season, it's But for a general fitness person, I think it's dope because it like, you are moving higher weight than normal. You're doing higher stress stuff. And also like, because it's slightly easier than a deadlift, like again, you can push more weight and there is benefits of f****g boosting your ego enough, right? Like, like, you know what I mean? Like you feel stronger. So it's going to make you do other things like
Ice Bear (30:03)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Grizz (30:14)
that you weren't thinking of because you feel stronger. Like I think like, I think for that reason, whether it's as advantageous as regular golf and I think is not the point. think it's like, it's still doing work and also like boosting your ego enough to do other less. think it's very, very, very, very, very great thing to do, especially if you're not trying to compete in some shit. I think so like for regular, for normies, think trial, trial bars is cool as fuck.
Ice Bear (30:38)
you
I have started equating it with leg press.
Grizz (30:47)
I see it like press
rate, honestly, front squats too, like his front squats are dope and they're cool for like quad stuff and everything. like, they're not going to do, can't do as much. It's just a harder lift to do is like you can back squat at a high bar and it's better for you. like. Front squats are cool shit. They don't have, he likes like you do some stuff and like what, what there is, it's a, it's a fun thing. Right. So like, it's as you do this thing, you feel like you're doing more, you feel like, cause you know what I mean? Like it's hard to do. So when you're doing it and you're like,
Ice Bear (31:04)
Front squats are very fun.
Grizz (31:16)
You know, you're doing some weight that like a regular person back squats are like, you, you, you know, like you fucking, you feel cool as fuck. It's nice to do. It feels good. Boost the ego.
Ice Bear (31:23)
for the other thing for
for front squats for me is for my balance to be because like, do I can't remember do you when you're squatting Do you grip like this? Or do cross it?
Grizz (31:36)
honestly, it just straight depends how fucking my shoulders feel at the time. I do both. I will take it for sure. Cause I'm a bigger guy. This is I'm a bigger guy. So this is more comfortable when I can do this. It fucking feels cooler, but you know, like some of my, wrist feels fuckier. Like my shoulder feels that I'm not going to beat up those things and like fuck up my squat for like, to like kind of feel slightly cooler. So like, I'm going to.
Ice Bear (31:40)
Okay. Cause I, I, I can't do this shit. I always do this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (32:06)
Nine times out of 10, I'm going to hit it like this, but you know, everyone's home and it's light enough. had it like that and it's cool as fuck, but you know, I'm not a small guy. It's kind of harder to do it like that.
Ice Bear (32:09)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, I always like crossing my arms. But the thing I catch myself doing is once I finish warming up and I get into whatever my working weight is, I haven't jammed so far into my throat. I was like, just sound like an old guy in a K drama. It's bad. It's real bad.
Grizz (32:31)
Yeah.
Yeah. For me, it's like, cause like when I get like that, kind of like hold my breath a bit or cause I feel like kind of like choking me a little bit, but it's also like get through the right. got to breathe, get through the rep. And so like for us, me, my, my, my kind of cue is like, just drive my elbows up while I'm going up. Right. Cause like, it's so easy to fall forward and kind of like hunchback it up. So yeah, I think it was not choking me a little bit.
Ice Bear (33:00)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (33:08)
I ain't doing it right.
look at that, all right, all right.
Uh, I will go ripe. This is a good old ripe. Uh, I will, this is a great regular beer. Like I think you'll have this spirit and you're like, this is a good beer. I have this beer. Like this is a good beer. It's great. I don't, I'm conflicted between B and B plus.
I'm going to give it a tentative B, but B plus makes sense too. I'm going to wait for my second beer before I give it a B plus, but this is at least the floor is a B because this is a good beer. You know, is it B plus right? Cause a B is no C. What's like a regular beer? What's, what's just like, yeah, it's a good. Yeah. Okay. So this is a B is a good beer. All right. It's a good beer. Is it a great beer? No, it's tasty though.
Ice Bear (34:05)
A regular beer is a C.
Nah, I reach.
Grizz (34:15)
It's good. And I enjoy it. It's a 7%. That's nice. I enjoyed every drop of this.
Ice Bear (34:28)
Dude, I'm very excited to hear this next one. I'm extremely excited.
Grizz (34:32)
kind of jobs because I am mildly excited about my
Ice Bear (34:35)
Oh, oh no. Okay. All right. Well, you you lead off then and I will
Grizz (34:39)
I'll lead off cause
it's a thing. Okay. So one of the things, one of the things about being ripe is you need to know your time. all right. ⁓ my Lord. You need to know the time and think about knowing the time is outside of good art. You need to know you got to keep time and to keep time. got to be the time keeper.
Ice Bear (34:48)
⁓
Grizz (35:04)
This is great notion.
Ice Bear (35:04)
I actually
really like this. This is very weird.
Grizz (35:10)
I don't know. kind of has like, I, yeah, I do like pocket watches and here's like an alien Oregon guy. Cause it's great notion again. And I think the timekeepers keeping time of this person.
Ice Bear (35:11)
Also, pocket watches are awesome.
I love a good pocket watch.
alien
aliens like track me. Hell, yeah.
Grizz (35:29)
I so. And this is
just a regular EPA. This is also another 7%.
Ice Bear (35:35)
Nice 7 % hey twinsies because my next one 7.1. Let me tell you. This one here I'm about to introduce this juicy IPA features Sasquatch hops Canada's first Canada's first homegrown hop notes of sweet pineapple picnic melons.
Grizz (35:52)
Ooh, what?
Ice Bear (36:02)
Juicy citrus and field berry make this bad boy radical and sure to drive you fanatical. don't know if you've been told this, but oftentimes after we post an episode, people hop in the DMs and they say, you know what you and old Grizz are? You two are strange animals.
Grizz (36:26)
I fucking love it. And the fact, the fact, maybe this might be in like my, like patriotism going the fact that Canada got a fucking Sasquatch hop first is like, damn you maple leaves, but that's a fucking cool ass hop name.
Ice Bear (36:42)
I like that he
has a sick leather jacket. He has, think your headphones. These look like your headphones. But yeah, this is a 7.1 juicy EPA.
Grizz (36:56)
That sounds fucking awesome. I am so jealous for Canada to have their Sasquatch hop. But if this is their first like hybrid hop that they've named, I think it's pretty dope.
Ice Bear (37:06)
It's a good name.
Grizz (37:08)
I am fucking green with envy.
Ice Bear (37:12)
you
All right. I'm not gonna get too crazy right off the bat. I'm not gonna get too crazy. Because what are we? We're elegant, we're sophisticated, and we are honest and we evaluate things fairly. So we need multiple sips. Yeah, pinkies out.
Well, let me tell you, I don't know if it's the Sasquatch hop I like, but so far I like this. I like this a fair bit.
Grizz (37:57)
So have you been in Canada enough to where you get like the, the weird patriotic maple leaf stuff yet? Are you there? So what are my, one of my favorite memes of all time, it's like the low Jack, but he's like in a room and it's like American flags and it's like fucking colonial 13 colonies, fucking fucking independence today, fucking.
Ice Bear (38:04)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (38:25)
You know what I mean? Like declaration of independence garb. And it's like, and it goes, it's like me, me talking about like government or whatever, or like me talking about the U S thing. And it's like, just talking mad shit about the government and the country and everything. But it was like, but it's like, but also me when I hear some dirty tea breath, some dirty tea and crumpet breath thing saying anything negative. it's just, it's just a check in the
Ice Bear (38:35)
Mm-hmm.
Ha ha ha.
Grizz (38:52)
Like there's like uber patriotic like like like that's me right anytime I see like here any type of European say anything about him like Fuck all the way out like if I can like these colors don't run red white and blue like eagle screeching in the background right like Do you get like that with the whole maple and mother north?
Ice Bear (38:55)
Yeah.
Yeah. ⁓
Yeah.
So I've actually I've thought about this fair bit because sometimes my coworkers will ask me. And so you're probably going to be able to relate to this because I think you have the view that you're probably in your head Texan first, right? So in my head, first and foremost, like if I'm doing like self analysis and I'm like, all right, what what am I? I'm still Hawaiian first.
Like that's my number one. I don't... I've thought about this and I'm like, both my parents are from Lanai. You know, like I had formative years like in Hawaii. Like I don't know if that can ever be undone. Like I don't know. Like I could maybe stay here in Canada until I die. And I don't know if that will ever be like taken over.
Grizz (39:45)
Mmm.
So quick sidebar. So here's the thing. I think here's the thing of like total walk and I have my answer. already know.
If Hawaii were to succeed, succeed and be its own independent nation state, would you automatically straight move back?
Ice Bear (40:26)
Mm-hmm.
Yes.
Grizz (40:30)
You want to hear okay, because like if Texas were ever to see no matter like what I'm doing, I'm going back. Like, no matter what I'm going back. I just know if hands or butts like I'm going back. It's like, yeah, I like no second thoughts at all. Like I'm like, fuck it. I'm like, fuck it. It's like it's like second coming of the Messiah kind of like, I'm like, I'm going
Ice Bear (40:39)
Yep. Yep.
Yep. Yep.
Yeah.
And the
thing is, Hawaii was illegally annexed. Like, I had a professor at UH that was very up in arms about this. He was furious about it. And like, my parents were born before it was a state, when it was still a territory. like, it's...
Grizz (41:13)
I don't know enough about it because like, like, I get the concepts of like, whether it's done. Was it like a Louisiana purchase? I genuinely, I genuinely don't know. ⁓ was it like a Louisiana purchasing where like the state bought it and it's like, okay, it's ours, but the people like, no. So like, technically it's, it's like, it's legit.
Ice Bear (41:37)
Yep.
Grizz (41:41)
Or is there one thing where it was just like, we conquered?
Ice Bear (41:44)
No, it's like a Louisiana purchase thing. It's like, but it's legit through the eyes of people that weren't there. Like people that shouldn't have had any business making the decision made the decision. ⁓
Grizz (41:46)
OK, OK, so it's legit, but like but but the the the feeling of the people around.
Mm-hmm.
Gotcha. So who made the decision for that?
If that was the case, like who had it before? Like who owned it before? Do you know?
Ice Bear (42:09)
It
was a kingdom. Hawaii was a kingdom.
Grizz (42:12)
And so did like the kingdom people like like the kingdoms or whatever the people like sell it
Ice Bear (42:19)
Yeah, effectively.
Grizz (42:22)
so, okay. Okay. It's one of those where it's like, all right, fair, but also like, this is some bullshit. Like, yeah, okay. All right. I, which makes sense. Like I think that, I think that's valid as fuck.
Ice Bear (42:35)
Yeah. And OK, so here's the other thing, because it's not like I'm like, it should be done immediately. The ramifications of it now are insane, because from a legal standpoint, if you were to just be like, all right, here you go, Hawaii, you're your own thing again. All right, now every fucking house that's been built since 1950 something is, you know, like who owns the land now?
anyone that's been married in the state of Hawaii, is that license valid anymore? Like, legally, it's such an insane, but like there's, but it's not a state. it got approved by a state that doesn't exist. It just creates like wild complications.
Grizz (43:07)
I would say so, yeah.
Well, I think it became, I mean, like, is it
really that wild? Like, couldn't it just be that if any, whatever it's his grandfather did, like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think it's actually going to be that wild unless there's these people like that, which is very much thing that, you know, like you never let any type of tragedy go to waste or any type of like uncertain go to waste where you like, you're all illegitimate. I know you own, you own this thing for X amount of time.
But like, you know, now until there will, will it be like violence in that sense? Sure. Cause that's human. That's like some human nature. Right. So like, sure. But as far as just like the societal thing of like marriages and things like that, think more than likely it would probably just get grandfathered in or it'd be like, re register, you know what I mean? Kind of shit. So like
Ice Bear (44:13)
Yeah.
Grizz (44:14)
Yeah. I don't think it'd be that bad. think the worst thing would just be like the darker side of like human.
⁓ tendencies.
Ice Bear (44:24)
I just, I don't trust that you wouldn't have like the major players trying to grab all the land. I mean like, I mean like, no, that was our land. Yeah.
Grizz (44:34)
for sure.
I
mean, just during the fires, right? So this happened, right? yeah, like.
Ice Bear (44:44)
The fire thing is so, like that's, don't, that's my tin foil hat thing. I get on that real fast.
Grizz (44:54)
Do you get about the whole like blue roof thing?
Ice Bear (44:57)
Blue roof? I don't know about this.
Grizz (45:00)
So one of the things I'm not saying I subscribe or don't subscribe to it or whatever. don't know. I'm just, I'm just saying one of the things, cause they talk about like, like the fires more natural. It's like, it's like energy weapons or whatever bullshit. But one of the things that is interesting is that during amidst all the fires. again, I don't know as much as this is just what I hear. Cause I don't really know as much. Don't really look into it. Don't even know. But one of the things that's interesting is that apparently what's allegedly said is that
Like the blue houses has to have like blue roofs or like even like the blue recycle canes didn't catch on fire or like weren't on thing. And so they're like, is there something in the blue pigment or whatever that like stopped like the energy weapon kind of thing to where like all the things caught on fire, but like these houses that had these color roofs, like didn't like, that's kind of weird. Yeah. It's like, it's one again, it's one of those where like, don't fucking know, but it is one thing that I've heard a lot.
Ice Bear (45:38)
⁓ okay.
Interesting. I hadn't heard about that, but that is weird.
Grizz (46:01)
So it is, you know, at the very least it's interesting, right? Like I'm going to Google whole.
Ice Bear (46:01)
Interesting. ⁓
So as you look that up, we got very sidetracked here. ⁓ Your original question I was answering is, after Hawaiian, think if I had to pick a national identity, yeah, I think it's Canadian before American at this point. I think so, yeah.
Grizz (46:33)
Interesting.
And is that just for like, what feels like home or more of like what you identify with this general culture?
Ice Bear (46:47)
not only both, because it does genuinely feel like home here now, ⁓ but also there's little things that like there's certain places that I've lived in the States that feel the same way, as a by and large rule everywhere I have been in Canada, feels
Grizz (46:49)
it's still okay.
Ice Bear (47:12)
like kind of people take care of their own, like the Southern hospitality adjacent thing. Like I don't like, I'm not friends with my neighbors. I don't talk to them, but like if anyone like ever came over and were like, I need a cup of sugar. be like, yeah, I got you. If they need help plowing out the driveway, I got you. And I think if I ever went and asked them, I don't think anyone would hesitate. I think it would be like, yeah, we got you.
Grizz (47:38)
Have you ever loved it in the South, flying outside of Missouri? Yeah. Yeah, because like, yeah, because Missouri, Missouri, Missouri is technically South, right?
Ice Bear (47:40)
No, well, Missouri, Virginia. That's the South as I ever got.
it's like I was so like I was it is more Midwest but like I was like on the border like I was real southern Missouri so like it felt south Virginia honestly dude Virginia feels south too
Grizz (47:53)
It's more Midwest though, right?
I think Virginia is technically the South, right? there's a difference between like Virginia and like West Virginia. I would say if you were like West Virginia, be like, all right, yeah, regular Virginia, I'm like...
Ice Bear (48:08)
Yeah, it's below the Mason Dixon line.
which is odd because West
Virginia is north of Virginia.
Grizz (48:19)
Which is funny
though, but culturally West Virginia is kind of based. guess pretty dope. Yeah. So like. Positive side, West Virginia is pretty based, like, know, like.
Ice Bear (48:21)
Yes. ⁓ But so like
West
Virginia is also beautiful, like wildly beautiful. it like it does not get respect.
Grizz (48:32)
⁓ bro, all the, all the East coast. Yeah. All the central to
like South East coast area. Like I think of like, like the Appalachia, like fucking gorgeous. Like, like if, if West Virginia wasn't like dog shit when it came to like governance, like that's one place where I'd like, you know, if I had to leave the, if I wasn't going back to the great old, the great old fucking text of
Texas A.S. you know West Virginia would be up there. The only other place of like that's a snow. It's like a snow roll would be like New Hampshire. I'd fucking like. Yeah I'd.
Ice Bear (49:14)
New Hampshire is great, man. We've we've both talked about New Hampshire.
Live, live free or die is the best fucking motto.
Grizz (49:21)
Yeah,
I got so many homies that live in New Hampshire that I'm like...
You know, like if I couldn't go back to Texas, I go probably go to New Hampshire to be very honest, right? Like, um, but again, like there is a thing of like Southern hospitality and it's way more apparent, like when I visit other places, cause again, like growing up in Texas, I was always like, I didn't get the fuck out of here until I experienced everywhere else. I'm like, Texas is pretty dope. Like, you know what I mean? Like, so like, it makes me like, and then like, that's where like when the whole.
text and then came after that.
But especially now that I've like lived long-term outside of Texas, I'm like,
The, the, lack of like just general hospitality and like normal thing is fucking weird.
Like, cause the tiger would tell me some shit like she was, she would think it's weird that like I would go and just in normal everyday life, I'd go be in line somewhere like in the fucking groceries or whatever and shoot the shit with people and fucking like, you know what I mean? Like we just be fucking riffing it up or whatever. And it's just normal. You know what I mean? Like we learn people and like, I see somebody that I see at this place every once in a while and like, you know, we're not fucking close friends, but like, you know, that's a, it's a fucking acquaintance homie kind of thing.
Ice Bear (50:30)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (50:44)
And like, it's just normal or I just be in line and then we like, be like four or five of us just kind of like just riff raffing, shooting the shit with each other. We don't know each other. And then she said, we're never going to see each other again. Maybe. Right. And if we do be like, a fucking guy. You know what I mean? Like it's cool.
Ice Bear (50:52)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Grizz (51:02)
There's none of that here in the fucking PNW like at all. And it's so fucking like, it's so weird to me.
Ice Bear (51:12)
Yeah, yeah, not a lot of casual banter
Grizz (51:13)
Yeah. And so like,
yeah, because the thing is like, can be anywhere like in Texas overall, in any neighborhood I've ever been in, if shit goes down, whatever that's like, I sure like a handful of people would ask like, if I need help to help me with some whatever bullshit, you know, like even if I was fucking snow plowing or a fucking, you know, doing some fucking thing, cutting down a tree to whatever they're going to be like, you need help with that?
You know what mean? Like, Oh, I got, I got this. He has this. So help you make it much easier. Let me go bring it once I get, you know what I mean? Like, and it's just fucking normal. Like, I don't know, man. Like it's, it's just different.
Ice Bear (51:47)
Yep. Yep.
Grizz (51:54)
But I think if you find a place like that, I think like how you have in Canada, think that that makes a huge difference as far as like, feel like having a sense of belonging.
Ice Bear (52:06)
Yeah. So like, okay, I'll give you a recent example. That I don't think I ever had anyone at any point offered me in Maryland. We've had like, quite a few pretty big snow storms since Christmas. And multiple co workers, like when they are like predicting snow the next day, I've been like, do want me to come pick you up? I'm fucking 20 minutes out of the way.
And it was a genuine offer. They weren't just like saying it like they they're like, yeah, I'll come get you because they know what I'll have winter tires.
And it's just like a totally out of the way, thoughtful, genuine offer. like, that's fucking nice. Thank you. I don't need it, but thank you.
Grizz (52:49)
Yeah. Yeah.
That feels like Texas to me. Like, you know what I mean? Like, again, and that's the biggest, the biggest thing. like, cause even like the tiger, she's like, you're too nice. Are you do like the same one? Like, it's just fucking normal. Like there's been plenty of things where like, you know, we work together and have a vision that like, you know, try 30 minutes out, whatever it's like, it's a fucking 30 minute after my thing. Like,
Ice Bear (53:05)
Mm.
Grizz (53:16)
It's 30 minutes. It's like 30 minutes to me is like, okay, whatever. But like this means the much to the next person who like I fuck with, like why not? Like, wouldn't I? Like it's, it's a no brainer to me, but like, you know, like Tigers from different culture, like different like thing, like, know, like whole California LA thing. Like it's really, you know what I mean? It's like when I talk to you, like, you're too nice. I'm like, it has nothing about being nice. I can just.
Ice Bear (53:24)
Yeah. Yeah.
Grizz (53:44)
It's just what you do. I don't know how else to say it. ⁓
Ice Bear (53:46)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah, I have a game that I play at work and I've played it for years now. I call it Beverage Andor snack. And basically there's some point midday where I need to caffeinate. And I just like I walk across the street and I go to like the dollar store and I get I'm like a monster or whatever, whatever energy ring they have around. And so like when I started, I went around to I go to everyone in the store. I'm like, would you like something beverage and or snack?
And like, they're like, what do you want a beverage and or snack? I'm going to the outside world. Like, I'll get you something. And they're like, like, where are you going? Like, that's not what I asked. Like, do you want something? I'm leaving the store. I will get you one of these things if you are also hungry and or thirsty like I am. And it's it's like, it's just like such a simple, like, minor thing. But like, if if it was flipped, and someone did that, like, that's a very like
That makes the day better. It's just like, all right, we're all in this bullshit grind of capitalism together. Like, let's do something to make it better.
Grizz (54:53)
Yeah.
I think it sucks like cleaning that with like people I work with and everything I like constantly has like one of the things we get in caffeine you want something like no no no it's fine to work but like do you want something or not I don't care like like like I'm already leaving do you like I have to like argue that like it's not a fucking anything to me you don't owe me shit after this like do you just want something because I will bring it
Ice Bear (55:19)
Yeah.
Dude, that's the thing.
That's the thing. And this is like, I know I told you about it, like when he was still there, but my brother Kwame, like when he was there, like he was the first person when I said it, I was like, oh, you understand what this is. This isn't like a, owe me $2 and like, I expect you to do it the next day. It's just, this is a token of like, are humans existing in the same world.
and it's probably going to come around at some point. That's not why we're doing it, but like that's why it works.
Grizz (56:03)
Like I'm just
doing it because I fuck with you. Like you are a homie in some way, or form. I want to make your fucking day better. That's it.
Ice Bear (56:09)
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep. Yep. And it's it's so funny when like, because it certain points you like you catch people on that same wavelength and you're like, ⁓ thank God, I don't have to explain this. is nice.
Grizz (56:27)
It's just
tiring. Especially like again, coming to the fucking Pacific Northwest from like Texas. That's one of the biggest things. It's like, bro, I don't expect shit from you. I'm just like, I'm doing this thing. Like, you know, like I fuck with you. Do you want something? Yes or no.
Ice Bear (56:47)
Because that's a very like, that's kind of an East Coast thing too. Because they're also like, they're, everyone's on guard. They're like, all right, what do you like, what do I owe you now? Bro, you don't owe anything. That's not the point of this. It's not the intent behind it. fucking people, man.
Grizz (57:10)
Yeah, that's, uh, that's one, that's one of the things I can, again, I can traveling to the place I've traveled. Like, uh, again, I go, when I was younger, I was like, think you're the fuck out of Texas. Can't stand this. And then like I traveled and I'm like, I need to go fucking go back to Texas. God damn. And I felt that, now like, now this is the first time I'm like living out of Texas for like the longterm. I'm like, this just sucks.
Ice Bear (57:22)
You
you
Yeah.
Grizz (57:38)
I, much as
I like it, as much as I like a lot of the stuff, like I love the fucking nature over here. I don't mind the weather either. Like I like rainy days. So rainy, she's like, I'm fine with all of it. It's all dope as fuck to me. I don't mind any of that. I don't mind not seeing the sun. I don't, I don't care. Also, but the thing where I'm like, it's just the fucking, that's the camaraderie, the people of like, of the people around you. Like, you know, I see some of my neighbors and they're fucking like,
Ice Bear (57:43)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Grizz (58:08)
Like I'm fucking trying to be your best friend or like get invited to your house, bro. I'm just fucking saying hi.
Ice Bear (58:08)
You know-
You
know, you know, you need to do. I think this is actually a product of Seattle. You need to you need to go down to Tacoma or Olympia or something you need to get out of Seattle.
Grizz (58:24)
And one of the
funniest things is like people are like, oh no, Tacoma. When they tell me about Tacoma, like, damn, I feel like I fucking like thrive in Tacoma to be honest.
Ice Bear (58:33)
I think I think
you I think you'd be real good there to come to come as much for me it was much much better than Seattle.
Grizz (58:36)
Yeah, because like.
Yeah. Cause like, cause like as much as I can, I don't know about Seattle. I'm like, I don't know, man, culture years, something I don't mind. Everybody teaches to run. I don't give a fuck, but like, it's just weird. I go and talk about like, like to come was kind of ghetto or like all the, when they talk about the shit, I'm like, sounds like fucking home. Like I was like,
Ice Bear (58:55)
You know.
You know what?
You know what's funny? Like the minute you manage to come up, like one of my favorite things about Tacoma, Tacoma has hood rats. And I need there to be a certain amount of hood rats to feel okay. So yeah, I think you'd do well there. All right. Hold on really quick, really quick, because we started this episode with being organized bears. I think we should
Grizz (59:14)
yeah. Yeah.
Ice Bear (59:31)
We should rapid fire this like super rapid fire this. So, so, so here's how we're going to do this. I will introduce sport. is simply can we successfully engage in whatever this sport is rapid fire? Yes, no. All right. We were on bobsled and I don't remember if we answered that. So bobsled, I think we would be great. All right.
Grizz (59:48)
Alright, let's do it.
fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, it
be great.
Ice Bear (1:00:00)
cross-country skiing, which based on the little stick figure guy, think it's just walking on skis. It doesn't look downhill. think it's I think it's just hoofing it.
Grizz (1:00:06)
⁓
I think we could do
it, but will we win? Probably not. I'm slowing you down. I'm slowing you down. I'm dead weight there. Yeah. We could do it though. We could do it. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:00:14)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know. I think we'd both be bad, but I think we I think we could. We wouldn't die, but we would not be good. ⁓
Curling.
Grizz (1:00:27)
I, again, maybe this is just fucking just tenacity or fucking like, on like, exactly. I think we'd be fucking great at fucking curling. I'm, I'm sure like, I think, I think we lose the first game maybe, but I think we'd fucking, I think we'd find our fucking rhythm and I think we'd fucking kill it.
Ice Bear (1:00:35)
unbridled hubris. I think we would be great at it. And I don't know why I think we would just squeegee the fuck out of those rocks.
Grizz (1:00:53)
I think we'd be fucking stupid good at curling. I think I am so confident in this. I feel like fucking DMX about to fucking start a drug ring. I feel like we'd be so fucking good at this.
Ice Bear (1:01:12)
I know a few people that like actually do it and they're probably like furious that we're both saying this, but I agree. 100%. I don't know why. I just feel like we would be a phenomenal curling team.
Grizz (1:01:12)
What?
I feel like, know, again.
Ice Bear (1:01:27)
We'd chuck that little rock and we'd squeegee the shit out of the ice and it would hit the other rock.
Grizz (1:01:30)
First game, first game,
we'll lose second game. Be close, but I think, I think we'll find our rhythm quickly. And I think we'll be fucking monsters at it. I think, I think we'll be fucking apex predators at it very, very quickly. I'm like, that's one where I feel like we got that shit. We got to share a lot. Give us one season. We fucking will be fucking menaces.
Ice Bear (1:01:37)
You
Yep.
Yep, I'm with you. All right. On the flip end, figure skating. Yeah, yeah, would. Bye.
Grizz (1:01:58)
fuck, we're dead. I'm fucking you up. I think you'd be far
better than I am. But like, I think you'd be you'd most definitely be better than I am.
Ice Bear (1:02:04)
I don't think I would man. I don't think I'd be... ⁓
I mean, I can skate, but I can't do anything pretty.
Grizz (1:02:12)
Yeah, I can skateboard. I can barely skate. So you again, you will do far better than I.
Ice Bear (1:02:15)
Yeah. All right.
All right. Here's one where I think we might both die. Freestyle skiing.
Grizz (1:02:27)
⁓ I'm sure we're dead.
Ice Bear (1:02:30)
So the graphic for the guy is he's like in the air and the skis are crossed in an X and his little arm thingies, whatever those things are also in an X. So I'm guessing like tricks. Yeah, I would die. I would die. Ice hockey. I would have fun. I would not be good at it. Like I would say I'm as good as a
Grizz (1:02:42)
Yeah, we're fucked. Yeah, we're fucked. Yeah, we're dead. Straight dead. Not even close straight dead.
Ice Bear (1:02:59)
Elementary school Canadian.
Grizz (1:03:02)
I
will most definitely not be good at it, but like if I can, if I can bulldoze people, I think.
Ice Bear (1:03:07)
You know what I think I actually would be okay at? And I think
you would be okay at? I think we would both be okay goalies.
Grizz (1:03:17)
I can see that. Here's the thing.
Ice Bear (1:03:18)
Because
you would take up a lot of a net. And I mean that as a compliment, you big behemoth.
Grizz (1:03:22)
Yeah.
I gotta think I'd be good with goalie again. It's just being agile and fast. I I'm not, I'm not agile fast. Yeah.
Ice Bear (1:03:29)
You would fill out a net. You don't even have to be that fast. You just block
most of the net with your bare girth. Like that's what you gotta do.
Grizz (1:03:38)
Yeah, I think I'd be fine
with the goalie. Even at that like I don't have to worry about being agile and like running good thing. just like if I could just bulldoze people. Like, we'd be fine.
Ice Bear (1:03:49)
Yeah,
yeah. All right. Next one. Luge. So this this appears to be solo like a one man thing, according to the little graphic. Just wait, just being big, just being big helps. Yeah, I think so. I think we'd be OK with that.
Grizz (1:03:54)
I think.
I think we'll be fine because like, again, weight and speed. Yeah.
Again,
the, I mean, you've seen it or is it just like my, like, my feet is not necessarily Gunnar, but you saw that fucking the Luge, the Luge Italian girl, whatever the fuck it was. it was just like jumps on the Luge and it's just jiggle physics. you know, seeing that and seeing how she's great. like, I think we'll be great. Like I think we'll be good.
Ice Bear (1:04:23)
Yeah.
Probably okay. Yeah.
All right. The next one, I don't know what it is. It's called Nordic combined. It looks like you probably jump over something on skis and then maybe ski downhill. Yeah, it looks bad. The graphic looks bad. I think we're dead.
Grizz (1:04:41)
I'm fucked.
I'm dead. We're
Dead. Dead. Straight dead.
Ice Bear (1:04:50)
Oh, this next one would be real short track speed skating. So this is that like Apollo, Anton, Oh, no shit. I don't know if you remember that. I would be terrible. I'd be dog shit at this. Like I can. So here's the thing. When I skate, I'm very slow because I get nervous the minute I start going fast and I slow myself down because like when I was learning how to do, I don't do you remember when I was learning to skate when I took the lessons in Delaware?
Grizz (1:05:00)
Yeah, not good. Dead. Not good.
And that I do remember you.
Ice Bear (1:05:21)
So like the thing was, this you might not remember, I was the only fucking adult in that class. It was me and like a shit ton of seven and eight year olds. And they're like, why are you here, mister? And I'm like, I want to learn how to skate. And they're like, okay, we'll be your friend. Like all their parents are watching. And like the like teacher is like a girl like three years younger than me. And I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. And it's just me and kids like.
Grizz (1:05:32)
You
Ice Bear (1:05:50)
Doing this shit with our skates on ice, learning how to balance and stop. Good.
Grizz (1:05:57)
I think that's
cool though, cause the thing is, even if you're older, you'd be like, look, I ain't from where it snows. I don't know. And then you heard of either thing. be like, okay.
Ice Bear (1:06:07)
Yeah. No, they were they were all cool. They were all they were all kind little kids. They were good. But yeah, I would be terrible at short track speed saying ⁓ skeleton, which appears to be loose, but your face going down rather than the other way.
Grizz (1:06:23)
Wait, wait, what? this one, maybe that's what I'm thinking of with the Italian little girl.
Ice Bear (1:06:27)
So, so, okay, so,
so luge based on the stick figure is you're going down the ice shoot thing with your feet forward. Skeleton is head faced forward.
Grizz (1:06:38)
Okay, so I'm thinking the other one.
Okay, so I'm thinking the other one.
Ice Bear (1:06:43)
Okay, so I think we'd be okay at this. Because yeah, this is where your butts in the air. Butts in the air head is forward.
Grizz (1:06:51)
Yeah, I think that one for more better.
Ice Bear (1:06:54)
All right. And then these next four I think we all die. Like I think I feel confident saying we're going to be dog shit and all of these skied jumping.
Grizz (1:07:05)
⁓ you're fucked.
Ice Bear (1:07:07)
I like watching those guys when they hit that little thing and they like launch like because I think that one's based on distance. I think that's how you win. And like they go like 180 feet. Like the minute I'm launched off that hill, I don't think I could even get to the hill. I think the minute I start going down, I probably fall over before I even hit the ramp. I think I die there.
Yeah. Ski mountaineering, I have no idea what that is. It looks like you're climbing up a mountain on skis. And then finally, snowboard and speed skating, which like snowboarding, like I wouldn't die, but I would definitely be terrible at it. And speed skating, as we've already said, I'm not fast at all. So I think I think that would be bad. A rough show.
Grizz (1:07:35)
Yeah, I can see that.
Ice Bear (1:08:09)
no, I can't hear old Gris. Can old Gris hear me? You can hear me. I can't hear you.
Now I can hear you. I can hear you fine now. What happened?
Grizz (1:08:22)
you can hear me now.
I don't know, but you started sounding like a robot for a little bit, but now you're not.
Ice Bear (1:08:30)
Weird.
I can hear you crystal clear now.
Grizz (1:08:35)
Perfect. Here's the thing. Here's, what I'm talking about.
Ice Bear (1:08:45)
⁓
Grizz (1:08:52)
Can you just see this?
Ice Bear (1:08:53)
Yes.
Grizz (1:08:55)
So it is skeleton.
Ice Bear (1:08:58)
This is without a doubt going to be our highest rated video.
Grizz (1:09:12)
So again, seeing, seeing this girl, seeing how she is a thing, I'm like, yeah, we'll, be all right. We'll, we'll, we'll be good. We'll, we'll, we'll be fine. We'll be great. We'll be fucking great at this. And I guess it is skeletons or I don't look at this.
Ice Bear (1:09:19)
Mm. Yeah.
⁓ so in other news, strange animal, our beloved Sasquatch hopped juicy epa.
Dude, I toyed with the thought of an S
Grizz (1:09:49)
Really?
Ice Bear (1:09:49)
I can't do that, but it is a strong A+. This is an excellent, excellent beer.
Grizz (1:09:58)
Damn, because ripe was a B, this Timekeeper B-. Both were great beers, but ripe was better.
Ice Bear (1:10:13)
Sorry, timekeeper, your pocket watch.
Okay, stay in the pocket.
Grizz (1:10:18)
If I put ripe as a B plus,
timekeeper would be a B. I think both things work for it, but I'm still, I'm staying with, right. Being a B. So timekeeper B minus, but also a good beer. I enjoyed every, every sip of it.
Ice Bear (1:10:39)
every sip must be savored. And if beer drinking was an Olympic sport, we would most assuredly get the
Grizz (1:10:54)
That was beautiful.