Hi, everyone. I'm Shakyra Mabone.
Jack:And I'm Jack Williams.
Shakyra:And welcome to Reeling It In, the podcast where we take the moment to reel in the best and worst film moments while keeping our commentary a % real.
Jack:And today, we're joined by, Maddie, and we're gonna be talking about sports movies. So grab your popcorn and let's reel it in. Yes. But before we do that, it's St. Patrick's Day.
Shakyra:Yeah. Well, not at the time this will be released. But y'all get the We're
Jack:filming this on St. Patrick's Day, so I just figured throw out some recommendations for you guys. Yeah. Sing Street, Dating Amber, The Banshees of Inisheeran, I believe it's pronounced all great Irish films.
Shakyra:So what's the premises of it like? Sum up?
Jack:Bansions of Venetian, Colin Farrell is friends with I forgot his name, older actor. One day he just decides he doesn't want be friends with him for no clear reason and that's pretty much the movie. It's great movie.
Shakyra:Oh, so it's like an Irish goodbye?
Jack:Kinda, yeah. Coming of Age, Dating Amber, also a coming of age. Dating Amber is fun. It's a gay man and then a gay girl, and they both pretend like they're dating, so they can throw off suspicion. It's a great
Shakyra:So like a lavender marriage type situation. Yeah. I see. I see.
Jack:So great movies all around. You guys should go watch them. Support the Irish on Saint Patty's Day.
Shakyra:Mhmm.
Jack:Or Saint Patty's week. Maddie. Hi. You're here to talk about sports movies?
Madi:I am. Thank you guys for having me on.
Jack:Yeah. Of course. Maddie, you cover hockey here.
Madi:I do. I do. Yeah. It's quite fun right now, especially. But, yeah, I mean, I I love sports in general, into sports movies, sports TV shows.
Madi:I mean, anything under the sun, I I just love it.
Jack:Do you find yourself drawn or maybe more drawn to hockey films now that you're covering I
Madi:think I do. But at the same time, I've never seen The Mighty Ducks. And I feel like I'm not a good hockey fan since I haven't seen The Mighty Ducks. But I've seen Miracle 15,000 times.
Jack:Yeah, that's fair.
Madi:So yeah, I I would say, yes, I may be a little more drawn to movies about hockey, but I also, like, Remember the Titans is in my top three, The Sandlot. Like, there's more out there than just
Jack:Mighty Duck, you really just unlocked a memory for me. You have to go watch I completely forgot about that movie. It's such a good movie.
Madi:I have friends that tell me that I really need to watch Mighty Ducks, and I just have not gotten around to do it. I need to.
Jack:That's one of classic coming of age sports, which I just love those movies. But yeah, I guess we were gonna big news lately is not about hockey, unfortunately, but in the realm of soccer or football. Ted Lasso just got renewed for season four, which I know, Maddie, you're a huge fan of, you told me, before the I am. So yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
Madi:I'm excited. I mean, I feel like I've heard people are like, why didn't you just end it there? I mean, season three had just a magnificent ending. Like, I didn't think that they were going to come back for season four. Was I hoping for it?
Madi:Literally all day, every day. But for them to come back and announce that they're doing another season, and this time it's going to be about a women's soccer team, I'm thrilled. I'm so excited. I just think that there's so much that they can do with it now that they're making it about a woman's team. But Ted Lasso was just an amazing show in general.
Madi:There's the upside to it, and then there's sad parts to it. And it just, like it wasn't just all about soccer. It was about, like, the friendships that you make along the way, if we're being completely basic here. But was just a I will never have bad things to say about this show.
Jack:Yeah. That fish out of water trope was just so fun to The concept of just putting a guy from the South in The UK is such an interesting premise. And I think when you think of the cultural difference that you could kind of use, other than obviously him just being from the South, is soccer. Because that's one of the big things. Obviously, whenever Americans say, it soccer, you always hear people being like, oh, it's football.
Jack:So I think that's one of the great things about that show. And I do agree. I think they ended it in a way where they certainly could have just ended it and not gone anywhere with it, or they could have kept going. Because obviously, I felt like Ted's sort of arc wrapped up nicely. But then there was that scene where Keely goes up to Rebecca and is like, A woman's team?
Jack:And she's like, Oh, yeah, I guess how do you feel about Ted returning? Because I think Jason Sveka said he's coming back as a character, right? So I wondered how you feel about that.
Madi:So he was on a podcast with the Kelsey Brothers. And he said something about how he's returning as the head coach of the women's soccer team. So I think that it's going to be weird not seeing him in the role of the head coach of the AFC Richmond men's team, but trying to take on a different role. Obviously, coaching women compared to men is a completely different thing.
Jack:Yeah.
Madi:Yeah. So seeing him try to tackle not only coming back to coach more soccer, but coaching a women's team is just gonna be, like, super interesting to see.
Jack:Mhmm. %. I'm looking forward to it. I think it'll be a great time. Kyra, I know you haven't seen Ted Lasso yet.
Shakyra:I have not seen it. I've only seen a couple episodes. It was really funny, but I can tell the show basically come across heavy hitter topics and things like Because even in the first episode, who he was on the phone with? I didn't really quite catch that. Was it like his ex wife or anything?
Shakyra:Yeah.
Jack:Yeah. Or I think so.
Shakyra:Yeah. I thought it was like an ex wife or soon to be ex wife. Only seen like, you know, the first couple episodes. But, you know, so yeah, I really it really kind of like reached out to me to be honest. So Yeah.
Shakyra:I'm gonna continue to watch it for sure.
Jack:Yeah. The the the his journey like with kind of because like the the reason he goes to The UK is because of his the divorce. He's kind of Right. He's the type of character who kind of pushes his problems away.
Shakyra:Exactly. Runs away from him.
Jack:Yeah. Exactly. And he kinda masks it with, like, this sort of, like, really caring, kinda giddy personality.
Shakyra:Life is all together. Yeah. I kinda got that too. So, okay. So from what, you know, you guys just said, you know so it seems to be Ted Lasso, he's gonna have basically a character development throughout the season.
Jack:Yeah, yeah.
Shakyra:Okay, I see.
Jack:I think a lot of the concern, I guess, with where the show is gonna go is just because by season three, you you see him through three seasons kinda, these problems come up, you know, he he has to face them. And then by season three, he's finally kinda happy. He's content. So I think a lot of the sort of, yeah, like anxiety from fans probably come from like, okay, what are they gonna do with him now? Know, not.
Jack:They wanna
Shakyra:rude to him as being like the destructive, you know, person. Okay. I see. I see.
Jack:Yeah. So it's like, what's where are they gonna go with that? But I'm curious. I love Jason Sudeikis, and I I have faith that they'll Yeah.
Shakyra:And you know, that's what I noticed about sports in general, sports film. They focus on the emotional and personal struggles of the characters or the athletes besides you know, of course the sports come in because, I mean, it's a sports, you know, movie or whatever. But like, I really like that because it honestly well, first of all, if some audiences, you know, they're not really like interested in sports or anything, but if they're of like going to see it, you know, it could still reach out to them in a way. Mhmm. I don't know.
Shakyra:That's just how that's just been
Jack:living. That's certainly because I I I didn't think I would like Ted Lasso when I started because I knew nothing about soccer. Yeah. And then I kinda watched it and I was like, well, soccer really isn't much of this. Mean, it's obviously I mean, it's lot of it, but they don't show the actual game.
Jack:You don't need to know anything about soccer Mhmm. In order to enjoy it. Like, you don't need that in order to, like, attach to the character. Like, feel like by the end of season one, was just like, I want more of this. This awesome.
Shakyra:Like, me, personally, I don't know jack crap about football or boxing, but I still like, you know, watch it,
Jack:you know,
Shakyra:because it's entertaining. And I could just like, sometimes well, not all the time, but sometimes relate to some of the characters in a film and things like that. So I think that's just what's catching to me, I would say. I can't really speak for most people. Yeah.
Jack:I think the best sports movies for me or shows or whatever are the ones where by the end, I'm like, I kind of want to go watch this now. Like, I want to watch the actual sport now, you know?
Madi:Like, now I'm super hooked on soccer. Yeah. I I agree with you on, like, because sometimes you don't go into a show kind of, knowing much about the sport, knowing much about anything in the show, but you attach to a character. And that's how I felt about Rebecca, who, as a fellow woman in sports, I can appreciate the fact that she's the owner of this club, and she's just working every single day tirelessly to keep the team's success. Right.
Madi:Even after, like, the mess that was created in the first season after her ex husband left and all of that stuff.
Jack:I love what it does with that because that plot is very similar to, I don't know if you've seen Major League. Major League is this film, it was a comedy where this woman I saw
Shakyra:some earlier on.
Jack:Yeah, I think she buys the Cleveland Indians just to run it into the ground so she can make money from selling it.
Madi:And that's what
Jack:That's exactly what Rebecca does, except I think it takes it and it's like, what if we added more depth to that and maybe she has actual reasons for doing that? And that's what I love so much about Ted Lasso is that it took that character type and gave her feelings, made her interesting. It
Madi:definitely did. I think that not only did it give her feelings, but I think that that developed her character a lot, too. Because then you get to the end of the season where it becomes a plot line of she comes into Ted's office every last episode or two in the And she's like, I have news for you. And he's like, oh, no. What is it?
Madi:And that's how it started with her finally growing to know what kind of guy Ted Lasso really was and telling him the truth about it. And I think that that really developed her character very well because it gave her the chance to apologize and see Ted through and see what could become of this club, even after they were relegated.
Jack:And they're both very similar characters.
Madi:They are.
Jack:Follow very similar journeys, albeit very different because, you know, I mean, there's gender differences, there's all these other differences.
Shakyra:And I
Jack:love how, because I think they, there's that scene in theI think it's the end of season two or something where they do that thing where she's like, I have to tell you something. And there's this sort of maybe implication that maybe she was going to profess some kind of love to him. Then they begin the next season where they're at this house, but it ends up being like this huge dupe. It's like they're not actually in it. I remember watching an interview with the writers or something, and they were talking about how they were kind of making fun of fans who thought that Ted was gonna end up with Rebecca.
Madi:I did. Yeah. Great.
Jack:Know, I Me too. I thought they were I thought they were going to.
Madi:I thought they were too.
Shakyra:I really felt the romantic, you know, such tension in front of like a twin and a that's crazy.
Jack:I think
Shakyra:That's interesting.
Jack:Because the writers were like, they wanted to sort of dispel the idea that because you have two heterosexual
Shakyra:Yeah, was just gonna say that too.
Jack:Characters, you know, male and female, that they're gonna end up together. Know, they wanted to kind of dispel that idea and be like, you can have a platonic friendship and they can just end up like Yeah,
Madi:you're trying to love it. I love that. In the long run, like, I had to get over myself and be like, they're not gonna end up together. But the way that they developed their friendship to the final season, to Yeah. Not final anymore, but to season three of, like, them being in the airport together.
Madi:It's like, oh my gosh. This is when it's gonna happen. And they're like No cliches. They're
Shakyra:just friends. Nope. But
Madi:there's there's no cliches. You know, there's nothing.
Jack:Get it. And I'm like, they never actually really implied it, you know, other than that one scene where they kind of were just making of the fans. Mhmm. And I was like, wow. I think that's just I think we've just come to expect that from TV.
Jack:You know, we've come to expect that in, like, modern like, these modern stories. Yeah. I I I like I love what they did with that. I like how they didn't sort of cave to that Absolutely. Idea.
Jack:Mhmm. Yeah. But stories. I think that's certainly one of the greatest parts of sports fiction, is this idea of it doesn't have to be about the sport. It's about the story surrounding the sport.
Jack:It's about sort of off the field or whatever. And I think one movie we were talking about before is Creed, which is the sequel series to the Rocky films. And I kind of wanted to go on a little bit of a tangent because I read this essay, I guess, from my class by James Baldwin, who we should all be familiar with. It's called The Fight, and it is about Floyd Patterson, who was the heavyweight champion in boxing, and he's fighting Sonny Liston. And this was in the '50s or '60s.
Jack:Anyway, there was a big fight. I forgot who win. I think it might have been Patterson. But anyway, months later, after the fight, after it's all said and done, who wins? Baldwin publishes this essay called Patterson versus Liston.
Jack:It's not about the fight, which is, you know, it's actually about him talking to these guys and just kind of giving their stories and giving them their perspectives leading up to the fight. And it was just kind of this idea ofand I think he was sort of one of the first peopleor he was part of this sort of journalistic movement of telling stories surrounding the events of these sports instead of just about the sports, because TV and radio comes out, you kind of have to find other ways to tell stories. And I just love this piece because I think it, in a lot of ways, laid the framework for a lot of the modern sports fiction that we see.
Shakyra:Oh, yeah.
Jack:I found myself thinking of it when I was watching Creed.
Shakyra:Yeah. Going back to the essay Mhmm. Another way you can look at it is just like Baldwin, he was basically like using like the fight as like social struggles and things like that, you know, because you gotta think about what was going on in the fifties and sixties, you know. Exactly.
Jack:And it was, you know, two black men fighting, you know?
Shakyra:Exactly. Exactly. So it's I just like the, you know, the crap. I'm losing my train of thought. Jack Suppotion, I guess, like that
Jack:Yeah.
Shakyra:Of it. So, yeah.
Jack:Yeah. But yeah, those stories, I think, it's a great opportunity to tell stories relating to whatever the social or political context in the world is.
Shakyra:Oh, yeah.
Jack:Definitely. And I think, because I mean, I watched the first two Creep movies. I've not yet gotten to the third one, which I know you were mad at me about because I'm yelling said it's the best one. No.
Shakyra:Was like, oh, you really gotta see it? I mean, I don't know. I think it's the best one, in my opinion. Yeah. I really like Jonathan Measures before what just happened recently.
Shakyra:But you know, we're not gonna talk about it. But yeah. I know
Jack:I like what they did with the character, how they kind of connected it to Rocky in the original story without making him too dependent on the character. He kind of becomes his own.
Shakyra:Because I think well, that's not a thing. It's just like that's the whole point of Cree. Adonis or Donnie, whoever you want to call him, his whole point is I'm not trying to be my dad. I want to be my own person. So it's just like, yes, you you still do get the Rocky storyline where, you know, he's getting older and, you know, he's getting sick and stuff like that and he's fighting with that.
Shakyra:See another, you know, mirror, you know, he's fighting with other personal aspects of his life and things like that. Yeah. Exactly. So it's just like, I can't really I'm so sorry. I'm blanking out really bad.
Jack:Good.
Shakyra:Well, yeah. It's just all about self identity, honestly.
Jack:Then I think, like I said, I haven't seen the third one. But it seems very much like he has this guy coming up from his past. He's fighting him physically, but he's also kind of fighting his past, which I think is a great metaphor.
Shakyra:Exactly.
Jack:But yeah, I think these boxing stories are great. Because this class I read this for, one of the points I made was boxing is such an interesting sport for me because it's two people fighting. And when we think of fighting, think of malice. We think of anger and stuff. But that's a sport where it's like you're not actually mad at the person, you're punching or you don't have to.
Jack:I love
Madi:your sport.
Jack:Yeah, yeah. I guess that works for any sport.
Shakyra:I was gonna say, yes, I agree. But speaking in Creed, obviously.
Jack:Yeah.
Madi:Yeah.
Shakyra:You know, he had to like go against the person, son who, you know, he on there kills his well, he did kill his dad, you know? Sorry. Spoilers.
Jack:You haven't seen Rocky IV yet? I don't know. Where have you been?
Shakyra:So it was just like a lot of people was just like telling Adonis, like, just do it, you know, to prove yourself that you are a great fighter, not because you want to get some type of revenge and things like that. Yeah. Mhmm.
Jack:And that's also like a great, I think, sort of theme it tackles is like masculinity and trying to like, you know, be better.
Shakyra:Most definitely.
Jack:But yeah, certainly think that's like I think those those stories, obviously, you kind of need those for like fiction stories. But I think just like as a sport, I find boxing like crazy. Because like it's like you don't have to have any malice towards that person. Right. You still have to punch them.
Jack:You know? You have to hurt them.
Shakyra:You still got to lock you.
Jack:Exactly. So I've always just found it. And it's such an old I feel like since the beginning of time, when you think of the Romans and stuff, fighting was a sport.
Shakyra:I just love how you just go back into historical terms and things like that. That is so cute.
Jack:I know, but it's crazy when you think about it. Right? Yeah. The Roman, that was like I I guess it kind of makes sense when you think
Shakyra:about No. It makes perfect sense.
Jack:I mean What can we do for entertainment? I'll just throw some guys in a pit and Yeah. Let them go out and do it.
Shakyra:See them come out alive,
Jack:I guess. Exactly, yeah.
Madi:I've seen
Shakyra:the Karate Kid franchise. Oh, yeah. Now, to me, martial arts is, I mean, it's sports in a way, you know? But sports is its own category. I was just thinking about like that, like how I don't know, like, would you consider that as revenge, though?
Shakyra:Like, you know, because he get beat up by this bully and things like that. But I don't really see that as revenge. I see that as proving yourself wrong, proving yourself that you are a stronger person. That ties back into the whole masculinity point and things like that.
Jack:I think it's definitely in Coretiquette. Think it's definitely both of those. I think it's a great revenge That's what
Madi:I was going to say. Because you can tackle both topics with The Karate Kid. Because is he trying to get revenge? Maybe a little bit. Mhmm.
Madi:But is he also trying to prove to himself that he's more than what he was when he got there? There's different ways that you can go about The Karate Kid and it being both a coming of age story. Obviously, it's a coming of age But I don't know. I think there's a lot of different ways that you can kind of twist and see the different angles of how the writers took The Karate Kid.
Jack:I think you're talking about the original one or the
Shakyra:I mean, both in my opinion. I
Jack:always forget about the James Smith one.
Shakyra:What? Okay. Do you guys like
Jack:the James? Oh, I love the James. I grew up with that movie. Yeah.
Madi:I think that I've only seen the original.
Shakyra:Oh, really?
Madi:Really? I think I'm a bad sports
Shakyra:it was kind of bad. It was. Just a tad bit. But it was just like, it was made for children, though. Yeah.
Shakyra:You know? Like, who cares?
Jack:I think I think it fits very nicely into, like, the the Mighty Ducks sandlot.
Shakyra:You know?
Jack:Like, those, like, coming of age sports movies where it's like it's just like a kid, you know, and he's coming of age. I think I don't It kinda differs from a lot of those, like like, coming of age ones because I feel like a lot of them are more meant to be comedies, you know? Mhmm. Like, I think Mighty Ducks is certainly a comedy and then, like, The Sandlot. I don't know if The Sandlot's a comedy as much of
Shakyra:Woah. In a way.
Madi:Yeah. Mhmm. I would say, yes. But I don't
Shakyra:know what The Sandlot
Madi:I don't know. I feel like that's a really tough one to try and figure out. Because The Sandlot is both yes, there's hilarious parts of that movie, and it cracks me up. But there's also parts to it where it's like, that's really deep. Like, that actually of hit the feels a little bit.
Madi:Like, almost seems like a don't judge a book by its cover. That's the deep message behind The Sandlot, especially when you get into the later plot of the beast in Mr. Myrtle and The
Shakyra:Sandlot, too.
Jack:I heard The Sandlot,
Shakyra:I did not see that one.
Madi:I haven't seen the other two. I heard they're horrible. Yeah. Really? Yeah.
Madi:No.
Jack:No. The Sandlot, though, certainly when I'm always gonna be close to my heart. I can't tell you how many times I've watched that movie.
Madi:Same. I actually watched it a couple weeks ago.
Jack:Which is so great because I feel like, you know, it's a nineties movie. I think was gonna say. The fact that I could grow up in the twenty tens and still like love it and identify with it is just such an amazing was
Shakyra:gonna say like a lot of 90 movies, they still have they still, like when I say they, I'm saying, like, you know, writers and things like that. They still put a way to, like, put that emotional aspect on, like, a funny movie. Yeah. Things like that. Like, okay, what's the lesson here, guys?
Shakyra:You know? Right. But, yeah. Just wanted to say that. Speaking of soccer, have you guys seen Kicking and Screaming with Will When
Madi:I was younger, I did. But I honestly would not be able to tell you the plot of that movie at this Yeah,
Shakyra:I was going to say, it's been a minute. But I would just reminiscent on that, honestly.
Madi:Yeah. It's been a while since I've honestly, I should probably rewatch that movie just for the sake of it being Will Ferrell because I love Will Ferrell. Yeah.
Shakyra:He's funny.
Madi:He cracks me
Shakyra:up. Oh, yeah.
Jack:Yeah. But I think baseball movies, going back to The Sandlot and all these other things, I feel like it's a genre in itself.
Madi:It totally is.
Jack:It's such an American sport. And you need, know, which so is football or whatever. I don't know. Like the baseball movies, they always have this feel to them.
Madi:They're just different than everything else. Like, there's something about a
Jack:baseball It's always like there's like scrappy kids Yeah. They're all coming together and they're just and I love like what was the other one? Oh, yeah. The perfect or no. Rookie of the year.
Shakyra:That's what I'm thinking of.
Jack:Gets he like breaks his arm and then he can just throw baseballs really fast, which just like sounds like such a stupid plot.
Shakyra:Like it's No.
Jack:It's it's like amazing.
Shakyra:Hey, that's a throwback. Honestly, I mean, I don't know.
Madi:I feel like you think of all of these baseball movies like, what's the one with Tom Hanks? But he's in a baseball movie, and I can't think of what it's called, but it's there.
Jack:Their Own.
Madi:A League of Their Own. There's
Shakyra:so
Madi:I
Shakyra:even saying Field of Dreams, but I was like, That's Kevin's That's a good yeah, that
Madi:one, too. Like, there's so many baseball movies out there. You're right. Like, it isn't a category of itself. Like, There's just something about a baseball movie where you can connect them, and they all bring each other they all come back to the same starting point.
Jack:But
Madi:why? Who knows? But a baseball movie is just a classic.
Jack:Something compelling about it. Know, it's America's sport. It's like an American movie. I think especially the ones It's real good movie too. Mhmm.
Jack:Yeah. And then sorry.
Shakyra:No, it's fun. You're talking.
Jack:Because we talk about kids movies, right? Or coming of age movies. What I love about the Benchwarmers, you know? It's that it almost like it takes a spin. It puts that on its head where it's like, what if instead of some kids coming together, we just make them adults and we see the exact same thing?
Madi:But then with the bench warmers, though, too, you also get the ending where they bring all of these kids that were never good at baseball together. And are they still horrible at baseball? Yes. But they're finally like able to like almost heal their inner self of Mhmm. Being able to play baseball as a kid.
Shakyra:And you know what that remind me of? Have you guys seen this movie called Rebound with Martin Lawrence? No. What? Oh my god.
Shakyra:Rebound? So basically, it's such an old ass movie. I'm sorry. But it's such an old movie. Basically, Rebound is about Martin Lawrence.
Shakyra:He is his big time ESPN basketball coach and things like that. And I think he got fired because he had, like, a really bad temper and things like that. Yeah. So his agent was like, oh, well, I can get you a job as a high school basketball or middle basketball coach at your old middle school. And he was like, nah, I'm not doing that at first.
Shakyra:But, you know, he just do it because I think he was just, like, trying to get his, you know, good image back and things like that. Like, oh, look, you know, all that good stuff. So he go to the middle school, you know, he try to coach these kids. These kids are terrible. First of all, nobody even comes to the game.
Shakyra:It's only like the coach, assistant coach who don't really coach or things like that. Just eat pizza all day. But it's a really cute coming of age story. And it just reminded me of that because later in the film, Martin Lawrence, he get close with one of the players and things like that. And he really tried to, I guess, shape them up in their very own way based on their personalities, each of the players' personalities.
Shakyra:So yeah. Should watch that. It's really funny.
Jack:Yeah. Haven't seen it, but it's like an underdog story. Yeah. And that's what I love about them. They're band of kids, underdogs.
Madi:Band of kids or three grown men.
Jack:Or three grown men beating the odds somehow. I don't know how three grown men are really beating the odds if they're playing against kids, but you know.
Madi:Yeah. Yeah.
Jack:No, that's another. But bench roamers, certainly, that's one I grew up with. Dodgeball is another one.
Shakyra:Yeah. Classic
Jack:comedy. Grew up with
Madi:that They kind of go hand in hand with
Shakyra:each other,
Madi:I feel like, of the like a group of Old fashioned guys. Just wanna play a sport and not get bullied for it, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, the Benchwarmers is just such a it's just such a good movie.
Madi:Like, it's a feel good. Like, it'll you'll sit there and crack up laughing, and then you kind of get your feels at the end of finding out Gus's backstory and what he really did growing up and how he was the bully. Then him redeeming himself to these kids and being like, I promise you, I learned from my mistakes and I learned from what I did as a child, you guys are gonna be okay. You're gonna make it. Mhmm.
Madi:I just love that movie so much. It's just so good. Yeah. And
Jack:I think this fits into what I what I talk about, but I feel like almost every episode is the it's like 2,000 era Yeah. Movies that like Yes. Yeah. Had this vibe to them. Yeah.
Jack:They don't make movies like that anymore where like Really? They just had something in the air back then. I don't know what it was.
Shakyra:Just like the sense of community back then too. Mhmm. That makes sense. Yeah. You
Jack:know? Maybe everyone was on the same same wavelength with humor, everyone was just locked in and knew exactly what would make everyone laugh. Right.
Shakyra:And it gets to a point I'm sorry, this is a side note, I'm going on a rant right now. Just gets to a point where it's just like, okay, now you're just trying Zahar. It's just cringey. Like, speaking of, again, sidetrack, Shrek five is coming out. And I'm like The animations kill me.
Madi:I can't do That's the one place and I'm like, don't
Shakyra:wanna do it. And I'm I'm honestly, I'm so scared because I'm like, please don't ruin Yeah.
Jack:I didn't really have an issue with the Shrek
Shakyra:It's sports film, but you know, I just have to
Jack:Yeah. Yeah.
Madi:Know. I'm picking up your vibe.
Jack:We can, you know, we can go on side tracks. But Shrek five Shrek five, I don't know. I don't get the I don't get the complaints. I think Shrek looks normal. I think everyone else looks normal.
Jack:Really? From like the five second clip we got. I don't know. Because every they put like the comparison photos next to each other. Everyone's like, they're like, look at Shrek then and look at Shrek now, and it's like the
Madi:exact same picture. What's that? There's something different about it. The vibe is off. I'm not
Jack:Maybe there's something I'm not seeing. I'm not
Shakyra:see how Binocular look. He did not look like that.
Jack:I think he looked like Okay.
Shakyra:Now, Ducky, I get it because, you know, they did age. But, like, Fiona Yeah. But they look like they aged backwards at some point.
Jack:I think they look Oh, here's the picture. Yeah, no, I think they look exactly the same. I don't see any difference. Mean, other than the updated animation, I don't see any difference between these two photos.
Madi:I think that they need to just say goodbye to the updated animations and go back to the original Shrek. I can't do it. Bring back all the ancient stuff and just bring back my Shrek. Oh, man.
Jack:Sure. Yeah. And I I I saw people who were people wanted the, like, Puss in Boots animation. Mhmm. If you like the the newer one, like the the movie, the the Last Wish or whatever.
Jack:Mhmm. Which, you know, I don't know. I don't think that fit.
Shakyra:I have a confession. I didn't really like that. You didn't? Puss fair. Not really.
Madi:I think I saw the first one of because there's two of them. The bag there.
Jack:The Humpty Dumpty?
Madi:Yes. Yes. I know. Actually don't know if I've
Jack:seen the The first one had Humpty Dumpty, and the second one had the wolf guy who
Madi:was trying to kill him. I think I've seen the first one. I have not seen the second one.
Jack:It's a good movie. I was a fan. I think I watched it during finals last year, and it was totally like
Shakyra:That's such a finals vibe.
Jack:I was done with my finals, and I'm like, I'm going to watch Puss in Boots because I know this.
Shakyra:What else
Madi:did you do?
Jack:Exactly. It just got on Netflix, and I was like, you know, I've gone through enough this week. I deserve some puss in boots. You know?
Shakyra:I love going
Madi:on to Netflix or any of these streaming apps and getting on and immediately finding an old nostalgic movie that I'm like, oh my god, I haven't seen that in years. We were talking about Holes before we started. That's a movie where I could find it on a streaming app and be like,
Madi:I'm turning it on right
Shakyra:That
Madi:was one
Jack:I used to watch, like, I feel like every other month when I was younger.
Madi:That is such a that's such a timeless, like, good movie. Come back to the two thousands movies, like, there's something that hits different about the set. Don't know. See.
Jack:It always comes back to some two thousands movie.
Shakyra:Because
Jack:It's like amazing and I'm
Madi:like, this is That era
Shakyra:really set the tone for films. I don't care. It did. Beat me up.
Jack:I think we need to identify this era and call it that.
Madi:The two thousands era
Jack:of films. The two thousands era. We all need to be on the same page about it and know exactly what we're talking Oh,
Madi:have you seen The Challengers? I watched it last night for the first time.
Shakyra:Really? Okay. What did you think about it?
Madi:I thought it was really good. For a second, though, I was like, what is the plot to this?
Shakyra:I feel like it is sort of plotless. Up on it, but To be honest, I kinda got it the first watch. I'm like, oh, okay. This makes sense.
Madi:I did, because my roommate's seen it before, so she was helping me piece things together. My big question, I was so angry at the end. It literally ended. I said, who won the match? I was like, are we actually being serious right now?
Madi:I know that it's supposed to be like
Jack:The Frenchman.
Madi:Like a reunite. Like, they reunited, but who won? I just I have so many unanswered She did at the end.
Jack:She won. She won.
Madi:She did. Was the winner. No, I loved I honestly, I loved that movie. And I have a few friends that are beyond obsessed with it, too. I texted them and was like, who won?
Madi:But I was also like, that was a really good movie. I highly enjoyed it.
Jack:And that director, he had two movies in 2024, neither of them got nominated, I don't think, for Oscars, which is really a little frustrating for me.
Madi:I've heard a lot of frustrations about challengers not winning a single thing.
Jack:And then Queer also just didn't get nominated, which is an amazing movie. If you guys haven't seen it yet, definitely check it out. Daniel Craig.
Madi:I was going to say, I haven't seen that one, but I always see Drew Starkey. I love him.
Jack:There was a great profile, I think, either New York Times or New Yorker did it, on Daniel Craig for that movie. And it was just it's great. He puts up a great performance. I won't say too much about it though. It's kind of a weird near the end it gets a little surreal.
Jack:It's one of those movies where it's normal for two thirds, then the last third is like, woah. Yeah.
Shakyra:Would say my favorite subcategory of sports movies most definitely is basketball. I grew up watching Space Jam.
Jack:Space Jam.
Shakyra:That's my movie. I love that. And a recent one that I did watch, I think it's called Air. It was was based like a biopic about like, you know, like the Jordans and things like that. But it's a good movie.
Shakyra:You sure you guys should watch it. And then White Man Can Jump. That's a good movie too.
Jack:You should watch I think it's called Thunderstruck or Thunder
Shakyra:Is it with Kevin Kevin Durant
Jack:one yet? My cousin just
Shakyra:loved them. Oh my gosh.
Jack:Kevin Durant basically gives his, what, like his basketball power, like a kid on accident.
Madi:Oh my gosh.
Jack:Like, you know It's like in Space Jam how they take the basketball from them. Yeah.
Shakyra:And the newer Space Jam, was James? Yeah. Think was Lebron James. Didn't really I don't know. I wasn't really fond of that.
Shakyra:It was just
Jack:I like that scene where Michael B Jordan comes out. Yeah. We got Michael Jordan, and then it's him.
Shakyra:He was like, hey, nothing's wrong
Jack:with me. It's all I remember from that movie, if I'm being honest. Yeah.
Madi:I was going say, I haven't watched the new one. I've only watched the old one.
Jack:Yeah. I mean, they're both, you know, Looney Tunes. Love the Gotta love Looney Tunes. But obviously, the first one's gonna be So
Shakyra:is baseball is, like, the only sports, you know, subcategory you guys like? Or do you guys like football films?
Jack:I honestly cannot give you a football movie. Oh, no. I can. Longest Yard with Adam Sandler.
Shakyra:Okay. Was just gonna say the blinds, I'm like,
Jack:we Nope.
Shakyra:Not discuss that movie. No. No. We're not talking about
Madi:the Blond two. And Remember the Titans. Remember the Titans is a fantastic movie. Oh, yeah. I would say, like, baseball is probably up there with my favorite sports category.
Madi:Hockey is obviously up there, but I haven't watched as many movies as I have documentaries about hockey because there's been a couple out about the Russian Five from the Red Wings and Fight Night at the Joe about the Red Wings and Miracle and all that stuff. So, like, hockey's up there, but I'm more of a documentary kind of gal with hockey. Yeah. And then there's baseball, which is just timeless.
Jack:Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Always gonna be great baseball movies
Shakyra:coming out. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, Jack, can you promise me you're gonna watch Creed three because
Jack:I will watch Creed three.
Shakyra:Know, really delve in and some more of his like emotional aspect, you know, like, you know
Jack:You know what? That's how we'll start next week's episode. How about that? I will watch Creed three before next Monday.
Shakyra:Yes. Then we'll talk
Jack:about it. That's my homework. My reeling it
Shakyra:in My homework is finishing Tit Lasso for sure. Mhmm. Because that show is really funny.
Jack:Yeah. For sure. You gotta. Well, this has been reeling it in.
Shakyra:I'm Kyra Maybone.
Jack:And I'm Jack Williams. And thank you for tuning in. Remember, if you have any film opinions or anything else you want to share with us, you agree with anything we've said or disagree, email me at jack.williams@statenews.com, and we'll be sure to talk about it on on the show.