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It is the constant and diligent effort to achieve a new level of excellence in one’s own life.
It is the hidden inner beauty behind the struggle to achieve excellence.
It is not perfect but imperfect.
It is the effort, discipline and focus that often goes unnoticed.
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The guests I have on this show emulate this drive in their own special way. You’ll be able to apply new ideas into your own life by learning from them.
We will also have 1on1 episodes with me where we’ll dive into my own experiences with entrepreneurship and leadership.
Every episode is designed to provide you with ideas that you can apply and grow in excellence in all areas of your life, business and career.
Do Good Work,
Raul
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Raul: hey, welcome back to the podcast.
Today I have Robert Heath Senior.
He's the CEO of the Legacy Leadership
Consulting Group, and he's on a mission
to empower high achieving professionals
to break free from overwhelm and
align their lives with purpose and
lead with clarity and confidence.
welcome to the pod.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Thank you for having me, brother.
It's a pleasure to be here.
Raul: when you get to truth, the
truth starts to rhyme or when
you get to what works right.
A
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: our work that we're getting to, a
lot of the people that I talk to, a lot
of more experienced professionals and
especially leaders, we start saying what
sounds to be the same thing over and over
again, but it's probably because we've
arrived to similar life experiences.
And one of the key things is the
reflection of what success is.
What is actually success.
How do we define success?
Is success in the bank account?
Is it in the clicks?
Is it in the likes?
Is it in the, uh, you know, the a
hundred, 1 million, 2 million followers?
And I
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: through a crisis of identity and
success in actions in our culture today.
We're recording late summer 25 and uh,
yeah, I wanna start with that, uh, simple
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
Yeah, no, great question.
And the, the reality of that question is,
the answer is yes, and the answer's no.
Right.
All the things that you said, does
that, is that what success is for?
Depending on the person?
Yes.
Right.
But my definition and, and the way
that you kind of navigate that space,
I firmly believe that everybody
is on this planet for a reason.
Everybody has a purpose.
Everybody has a gift.
Everybody has greatness within them.
And therefore, success is aligning
your life, aligning your actions,
aligning your attitudes, aligning
what you do, both in your thoughts.
And in your daily activities
with that purpose such that you
can be the best you possible.
Right.
I love how, um, coach Prime, Deon Sanders
talks about, you know, when, when he's
teaching his children and when he's
helping raise his children, he always let
them know, like, I don't want, I don't
hold you to the standard of being me.
There's only one me.
And I'm, I'm awesome,
but there's only one me.
The standard that I want you to live to
is to be the best you that you can be.
And that, in my opinion,
is what success is.
Raul: Yeah, and I think there's
a, I want to, so we're gonna do
this pod a little differently.
I'm not just gonna ask questions.
It's gonna challenge your ideas because
this is something that I've been
seeing wrestling with identifying.
Just seeing in my client's businesses
and other people that I've helped in
their business and lives, um, sometimes
the activities that we do, sometimes the
thing that we define success, once you
start taking those activities, like you
mentioned, it's a, it's a manifestation
of who you are and the greatness within
you, which I completely agree with.
But when you start taking action,
but the actions required don't align
with your identity, something's
broken and there's misalignment.
So it's not always going to
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yes.
Raul: in my opinion.
That you are the perfect identity.
You have everything ready right now.
I think we need to enhance
different parts of us, including
our identity, to match the actions.
Um,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
Exactly.
Raul: sometimes I've clients
stopping businesses making more money
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: Changing, changing directions.
And I think it's
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah,
Raul: caught up with the actions, but,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
that's right.
And I 'cause identity is one of the, the,
the, the strongest drivers of activity.
Right?
And if you remember, this is the
reason why I talked about alignment,
Raul: Yeah.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
right?
And it's not just alignment of
actions with the destination.
It's also alignment of your thought
processes and how you see yourself.
See, identity is a way that we
think about the circumstances
that we encounter in the world.
Right.
If you ask somebody, and you know, Tony
Robbins talks about this a lot, right?
When you ask a non-smoker if
they want a cigarette, they
don't say, oh, no, no, thank you.
I don't want a cigarette.
They say, I don't smoke.
As in that behavior is completely
out of alignment with who I am.
Of course, I don't want that thing
because I don't do that, and it's a
completely different understanding
of your interaction with the thing.
There are people that build
businesses, but still have a poverty
mindset or a scarcity mindset.
There are people that have been
to the Olympics, but they never
see themselves as winners.
Right, and they can never get over
the hump even though they have all
the talent, all the capabilities.
You know this in, in professional
athletics, you were talking about the
top 1% of 1% of athletes in the world.
So it's not a question of whether
or not they're capable of doing
the work, of doing the job.
Everybody that's in the
NBA was the man, right?
And every female basketball player
that was this, N-N-W-N-B-A was
the woman in her town or in their
school or in whatever it was.
So it's not a question of whether
they're capable, but there's a
difference between the mindset, right?
Kobe titled it Mamba Mindset, right?
There's a difference between
the mindset of those that align
with that highest vision or that
highest sense of themselves.
It has nothing to do with the activities.
The activities come from the thoughts.
The activities come from the
mindset, not the other way around.
Now, the cool part.
And this is where, if you've ever
read, um, Psycho-Cybernetics, right?
The, the cool part about the way
that our mind works is that it's a,
it's a, uh, a cybernetic system where
the way that we think influences our
actions and our actions, therefore,
can influence the way that we think.
You can smile and it will make you
feel better even if you are not
feeling good when you decide to smile,
because there's certain things that
happen in the body that then trigger.
Certain experiences that
the mind picks up on.
Right.
And that's the reason why when we, and
when you're in a, in a, in a movie or in
a, a speech or in something like that,
they've done studies that are so cool
where when somebody's telling a story.
And they've put everybody in the audience
on kind of like an EEG or EKG, where
they're monitoring heart waves and
brain waves and body bodily functions.
Now, everybody will start
out at a different space.
So let's say you're at 110 beats a minute.
I'm at 90 beats a minute.
Somebody's at 60 beats a minute.
We won't beat at the same number of
heartbeats a minute, but our heart
rates will increase and decrease
together along with that story, because.
What's happening is that what
we're thinking is changing what
we're feeling and then what we're
feeling is changing what we're
thinking, and we can even sync up.
That's the power of alignment, and
when you can get that happening where
your thoughts, your identity, like
you said, impacts your values, impacts
your beliefs, impacts your actions,
not only your conscious actions, but
your habitual unconscious actions, then
your results start to change because
all of that is now in alignment.
Raul: Bring it down Darth a little bit.
Like how do you work with your clients
to, uh, to kind of create that alignment?
Because usually busy type A, most likely,
if they're leading organizations or teams
or, uh, or any, any sort of that, um.
Because I, I agree with you, but like,
make it practical because some of the,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
Raul: uh, depending on the person
hearing this right now, some
might be too abstract and too,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: much out there.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense.
And, and to be clear, right, I work
with CEOs, C-suite professionals, right?
Business owners, lawyers,
doctors, all of the like, and
everybody is too busy, right?
Too cool for school, right?
Everybody's too busy to do a lot
of this work when you first start.
But the whole thing about it is in the
Marine Corps, we have a saying that goes
slow, is smooth, smooth is fast, right?
And it's important that sometimes
we have to slow down to speed up.
And one of the biggest things
that I do with my clients is.
We don't just look at the fact that
I'm saying we've gotta get aligned.
We look at what misalignment
is costing you, right?
It's not just a question of
can you do this other thing?
Can you get the pleasure right?
We, as human beings, we run from pain
more than we run towards pleasure.
So one of the things that I do with
my clients, and one of the things
I encourage people listening on the
pod to ask themselves is, what is it
costing you to be out of alignment?
What business objective, what
familial objective, what stress?
Right.
I remember I was just run, running a round
table with a bunch of executives, uh,
the other day and one of the things that
they were talking about was just the lack
of peace of mind being out of alignment.
So that's the first thing
that we wanna look at.
'cause it's not a.
You know, just, just continue
doing the same thing and not have
any cause or I have to slow down.
But to your, to your more pointed
question, how do we slow down?
The first thing we have to
know is where are we going?
What does success look like?
And some people have no idea what that is.
Right.
We think we do.
Right.
That's where keeping up with
the Joneses comes into play.
Keeping up with the Joneses is only a
thing if you don't know what you want.
Right.
I've never gone.
And bought an item at a restaurant
because it was on somebody else's
plate, unless I didn't know what
I wanted at that restaurant.
Right.
I've never gone and been
like, oh, you know what?
I want a steak.
Oh, but no, I saw your plate.
Now I want chicken.
That's never happened right
Raul: one, and no
Robert Heath, Sr.:
now.
Raul: from steak to chicken.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Right, exactly.
Right.
So, but at the end of the day,
oftentimes we don't know that we,
we don't know what we don't know.
And oftentimes we're doing stuff right.
I've got a client of mine
right now, a friend of mine.
He just became CEO of a company.
And part of what he was
doing in the beginning was of
course, just doing the stuff.
He had been the CFO of the company,
now he's the CEO of the company.
He's a multinational company, and
he was just fixing the problems that
he had seen when he was CFO in the
first kind of six months of being CEO.
But then he ran out of those
problems to fix, and so now it's
like, well, okay, well what.
What do I like?
What's my vision?
What do I actually want for this?
I thought that I wanted to go this way,
but now I fixed that stuff way faster than
I thought I was gonna be able to fix it.
So now what?
And that's where a lot
of people get stuck.
That's where a lot of people, right?
It's, it's, it's the dog
that catches the car, right?
It's like, what do you do now when
you've hit all of those goals that
you have, when you've proven to
yourself that if you put your mind
to something, you can make it happen.
So.
The biggest thing is really getting clear
on what success means to you, and not
just from an intellectual perspective,
but from a perspective where it resonates
with, like you were saying before,
with your identity of who you are.
Raul: So how do we do that?
So, uh, just to give you
some, some realistic stuff.
So when I finished the, the Ironman, it
kind of had like, like the half Ironman.
I had
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: after.
I'm like, I did this big thing.
It was big for me at least.
Now
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: Working
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yep.
Raul: the same was
actually kind of boring.
And I needed like a
bigger challenge, but I
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: step into a bigger
challenge at that moment.
So that's like a
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
Raul: Um,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
Raul: success, I mean, I get it.
So success can be a plethora of things,
obviously has to be in alignment with
the good and has to be in alignment with
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: moral virtue.
But the, um, yeah.
So how, how do we work through that?
How would, how do we slow
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
So.
Perfect example.
So let's go ahead and look at
the the, the Half Ironman, right?
Because I had a similar experience.
I ran one marathon in my life.
I'm never running another one.
'cause I had fit, that
was a bucket list item.
I'm good.
But
Raul: then my son turns out to
be a runner, so I'm training for
probably like 15 more, but he's only
Robert Heath, Sr.:
yeah, you.
Yeah, exactly.
It's crazy.
You have fun with that.
I'm, uh, I'm, I'm glad that
my son is a lot like me and he
doesn't like to run long distance.
He's a wide receiver.
He plays football.
He's like, I gotta run
a hundred meters, dad.
That's about as far.
Exactly, exactly.
He's like, 400, 200, 100.
That's what I'm running.
I'm like, that's my son.
All right, let's go.
That's,
but no, but, but I, I understand
exactly how that feels.
'cause I, once, once I got finished
with it, there was this kind
of, like you said, this almost.
A a, a blues, right?
And that's, that's natural.
'cause a lot of people think that we
get joy out of accomplishing goals.
The actual reality is that there's
a sense of grief when we accomplish
a goal, because the journey is
actually what brings us joy.
Getting closer and making
progress towards goals is actually
what tri triggers the dopamine
Raul: Yeah.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
in our brains.
And so when we get to the end,
there's a, there's a culmination,
Raul: So I cut
Robert Heath, Sr.:
right?
And if we don't.
Raul: I need, I need to get the new feed
Robert Heath, Sr.:
That's it.
That's it.
And so,
Raul: some more, get some more dopamine
Robert Heath, Sr.:
right.
And so in that situation, the
whole key is to remember to attach
everything that you're doing.
This is what we talk about when
we talk about purpose, right?
When you can realize that you
have a life's purpose, right?
That.
Is a North star for everything
that you're choosing.
So the first thing that we do with, I
work with my clients is I don't talk
about what are you gonna do tomorrow
or what are you gonna do next week?
Or what are you gonna do next month?
Or what are you gonna do next year?
We really get clear on
what is your identity?
Why are you here?
As you look back over your life and as you
look into the future, what is the reason?
What's the the one galvanizing thing?
That you know is what you will
do no matter what career it is.
You have, no matter whe whether you're
helping out at your kid's school,
whether you're working, uh, in the
community, or whether you're helping a
company, whether you're with your wife,
whatever it is that you do, what is
the thing that you bring to the world?
Because once you know what that
is, now we can say, okay, what's
the next thing that's in alignment
with that that excites you?
What's the next thing
on that pathway that.
It actually makes you kind
of spring with anticipation.
And in that space, what we also
create is this loop where you can
celebrate milestones without ever
having to have the down feeling
of, oh my God, the journey is over.
'cause you're, this is just a
part of a larger journey that
doesn't end until you're gone.
Raul: Hmm.
Yeah, like the infinite game.
Okay, so that's, that's
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
Raul: Yeah, that's pretty good.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah,
Raul: All right, so you do that, you
focus around the bigger piece, but then.
You align the activities or
priorities based on that.
But, you
Robert Heath, Sr.:
exactly.
And we set priorities based on that.
That's how you set your milestone.
Raul: or a priority towards that.
But, um, do you know which, um, 'cause
I, I think a lot of leaders, like
when they're, when they're doing this,
they probably have too many options.
Too many things,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Raul: shiny object syndrome
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly
Raul: how do you help them decipher
so they can move in the right path
and test and then from their switch if
Robert Heath, Sr.:
right.
No, that's a great,
that's a great question.
So there's two things that we do, right,
and we talked about defining success.
That's the bigger picture, right?
But it feels like an elephant.
It's too big to eat all at once a year.
Like, oh my God.
Then there the overwhelm comes in,
how do I do everything in this life?
Then that's where we
get to step two, right?
And we have a a five step
process for mastering your time.
Step two is then you set
and align your priorities.
Most people know how to say what's
important to them, but then the
question of, which one do I do first?
Which one do I do Second is the
thing that is so difficult 'cause
it feels like I have so many
options, so many opportunities.
But the reality is when you look
at all of the things that you can
do, there are some of them that.
Call to be done now, and there are
some that you can do at a later time.
And the analogy that I always
like to use is Right master chess
players can think, you know,
2025 moves ahead in a chess game.
And so the ability to set your
priorities is really important, but
you also have to be able to align
your priorities because if you are a
master chess player, but you do move 14
when you should have done move three.
You are not gonna look like and have the
results of a master chess player, right?
Doing things out of order will mess it up.
And so there's, as you look at the things
that you're trying to get done, one of
the biggest things to be able to do is
to see, and to, again, and this goes
with identity, this goes with values,
this goes with beliefs and a lot of the
work that we do, I don't know, um, if
we talked about this, uh, before, but
like, I'm a master practitioner of NLP
neurolinguistic programming, right?
And there's a, there's an important.
Element that we know it with n LP of the
sub, of having the subconscious mind and
the conscious mind in alignment with each
other and moving in the same direction.
And when the subconscious mind is in
alignment with the conscious mind,
it's not just an intellectual knowing.
It's more of a.
Resonance, a whole being resonance
that lets you know that yes,
this is where I need to be going.
And so one of the things that
I do with my clients is help
them to recognize that feeling.
And everybody's had it before.
That feeling of being in flow,
that feeling of everything, just
feeling like right, you had the
Midas touch, it was your lucky day.
Everything just goes exactly
like it's supposed to go.
And it's not just an intellectual thing.
There's a, there's a deep body
knowing of what that feels like
Raul: Yeah,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
and what we do.
Exactly true knowing.
Right?
And what we do is we help our clients
to become accustomed to what that
feels like so that it's not the
abstraction, but rather it's the norm.
Right.
The the interesting thing, again to,
I, I like to use analogies 'cause
it, it paints a better picture than
just me trying to say it in words.
Right.
If you look at a airplane that's
flying from New York to la
right, that airplane is only.
On its pathway, aligned on its pathway.
1% of the trip
Raul: Oh yeah.
And then the, the pilots, they
have to adjust, of course, adjust.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
a exactly the, it's constantly
adjusting 'cause it gets off track
and then it gets back on track.
But the way that it adjusts is because
the autopilot or the pilots right with
their instruments know exactly what
being on the proper trajectory is.
Now wind happens, or Right, they've
gotta move around a, a cloud.
Um, system or whatever the case
may be, so they get off track
and that's what happens in life.
We have things that move us and pull us
off track, but when you have that deep
knowing of what being on track looks
like, you know how to get back to it.
And so what we focus on first
is what does it feel like?
What does it, what does that
deep knowing of being aligned?
Because once you're aligned, once you
know what that North star is right?
In the Marine Corps and
we're doing land navigation.
Your whole goal is to get
back onto your azimuth, right?
To get back on to the line
that you're trying to go.
Now you might get off, you might get
lost, you might get a, a couple steps
or whatever, but you're constantly
paying attention to what are the
landmarks or what are the things
that you've, that you've put into
your pathway that help you to know,
okay, I'm back on pa on, on course.
So, so the, the, to your question,
I think when people are struggling
trying to figure out what do I
do next, or how do I do this?
It seems like it, it, it, it would
be, it's, it's almost like a throwaway
step, but it's the most important
step, which is you have to know
what it feels like to be on track.
You have to know what it feels
like to be on path first, and
that's one of the things that we
do when we're setting in aligning.
We're not just doing it
intellectual exercise of,
what can I put here and Right.
The jigsaw puzzle.
That's not what's happening at
each step of the way, you go ahead
and you allow for yourself to test
it against your internal knowing.
Raul: Hmm.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
And once that plan is in place,
the other thing that we do is we
allow for ourselves to realize that
no plan survives first contact.
Raul: Oh
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Right?
And there's a, there's a great
quote by, um, the late great Dr.
Maya Angelo, and she says it this way.
She says, give yourself grace for what
you didn't know, when you didn't know it.
When you know better, do better.
And so often we get down a pathway because
we had information and we thought this
pathway was the way, and we don't realize
that sometimes it takes us going down
this pathway to learn the thing that
then solidifies for us that this pathway
was the one that we needed to go down.
Raul: that's
Robert Heath, Sr.:
But for going,
Raul: door, then you'll see the
other doors that are behind that
door and like, oh, okay, now.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
that's the key.
Raul: back
Robert Heath, Sr.:
but for going down that path, you
would've never had the certainty that
you have that this is the right pathway.
Raul: Yeah.
No,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
So it's, and, and you know, a lot of
people will feel like it's wasted.
It's not wasted.
That was the, that was the
manner, that was the method.
That was the means of you having the
degree of certainty that was necessary
to have the courage to go down that
pathway that was actually scarier
than the one that you tried at first.
And had you tried to go down
this pathway the first time, you
would've turned around and run back?
Raul: Yeah, no, that makes sense.
It's more a waste of time
to wait than to take action.
Um,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
Raul: a complete note on that,
um, on the true knowing like.
It has to start intellectually, but
I think because we have the duality
of, of mind and spirit, so we have
to actually feel it in the body.
But it's not,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
Raul: of people getting misled
that it just, just feely type.
And I
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: you're just gonna get
misled to just your appetites and
appetites come and go, like hunger.
So be,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent, yes.
And, and that's again where that whole
idea of alignment comes into play.
It's understanding what
are the things right.
Y one thing cannot be in
alignment with itself, right?
You have to have one or two or
more things in order for them to
be in alignment with one another.
Right?
G in geometry.
And when you think about, um, the, the
Raul: That makes sense.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
right, when you think about the
second dimension, right, align.
Is the connection between
two points, right?
A point is a single dimension.
You have two points, and now you
can create the second dimension,
which is a line between those.
In order for you to be in
alignment, there has to be, as
you were talking about, right?
Our conscious knowing has to be
in alignment with something else,
which would be our deep knowing.
And then we add the third
thing to that, which is.
The actions that we take based
on that alignment then have to be
in alignment with those as well.
So our results, our actions, and our
results have to be in alignment with each
other and in alignment with the vision
that we put in front of us to begin with.
That's the whole iterative process, right?
We create a hypothesis.
Where this is what we
think is going to happen.
We do an experiment and then we either
get results that are in alignment with
that, which tells us to keep doing that
thing, or we get results that are out of
alignment with that, which causes us to
question how do we change the experiment
or the hypothesis to make sure that
the results wind up being in alignment.
That is the whole process
in what we do in our lives.
Raul: Yeah, no, that makes sense.
The other thing, uh, point is to
like, you got the directions to
point your arrows to, like the line
of alignment, but uh, I think you
gotta point it to the highest aim.
So making sure that
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
Raul: um, help
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
Raul: this a bit 'cause
we hear this all the time.
Your subconscious mind
with your conscious mind.
And that's again,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: very.
Abstract can touch it.
Puff of air.
What are some
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
Raul: to really tame the conscious mind
in alignment with the the unconscious?
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Right.
No, that's a great question and I think.
One thing that I would say is I
would, I would change one word and
I wouldn't try to tame the conscious
mind, the subconscious mind as much
as I would try to connect with.
Raul: Hmm.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Right.
There's a natural relationship
between the conscious mind and the
subconscious mind that already exists.
The, the, the big thing is, is more
for us to become attuned with that
natural rhythm and natural relationship
rather than trying to create something
that's artificial or arbitrary.
So, right.
For in, in a practical example for
everybody listening, there's a system
that mediates between the subconscious
mind and the conscious mind called
the reticular activating system.
And this is a system that
allows your subconscious mind.
To know what to present
to the conscious mind.
You've all experienced this before
if you've, if you've driven a
new car, maybe it's not new.
But it's new to you, right?
You've had this experience.
Most likely you start driving
that car, and then amazingly, it
seems like everybody and they mama
decided that they wanted to go
get that car just like you did.
It pops up everywhere.
The stop sign, the stoplight, the
corner store, the grocery store.
Everybody went and got
the same car that you got.
That's the experience.
That's what it feels like,
but that's not the reality.
We know that.
Right?
The reality is everybody had
that car along before you did,
but your subconscious mind was
blocking that out because it wasn't
important to you until it was.
And once it became important to you,
then your subconscious mind began
to show you that thing more often
that you said was important to you.
Now.
For those people that might be a
little bit skeptical of that or feel
like that doesn't work, I want you
to try this, try this, try this, uh,
experiment right now, and you can do it.
And Raul, you can do it as well.
So take the middle finger of your right
hand and I want you to go ahead and
touch the palm of your left hand, right?
So as you're doing that, you can feel the
pressure and the palm of your left hand.
You can feel the pressure in, in
middle finger, your right hand.
You can see 'em, you can feel
the touch and, and the pressure.
You know what you're
not feeling right now.
You're not aware of what's going on
with the bottom of your right foot.
Right.
And now that your attention just shifted
to the bottom of your right foot y your
hand goes away, and then you're like, oh.
And if you really struggle, you can
keep both of 'em kind of there, but it
feels like you're switching back and
forth, back and forth, back and forth.
That's because the conscious mind
is capable of processing somewhere
between 40 and 50 bits to about 126
bits of information a second, right?
The the conscious mind is a spotlight.
Raul: Mm.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
It shines a light a little bit
in the darkness here and there.
That's what the conscious
mind is capable of.
And the subconscious mind though
is capable of processing upwards
of 11 trillion bits per second.
I'm sorry, 11 million
bits per second right now.
Raul: my GPU.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Right?
There you go.
Right now it's exponentially
more than your conscious mind.
So for example.
You've had the experience of going
outside and knowing that it was gonna
rain before you looked up at the sky,
or you just had this inner knowing
that it was gonna rain, and then you
looked and were like, oh, yep, there.
Go to storm clouds.
Yep.
It's about to rain.
Right?
The reason that you've had that experience
is because along every inch of your
body, you have heat sensors, cold
sensors, wet and dry sensors, pressure
sensors, pain sensors all over your skin.
You also have your olfactory system that.
Can tell different scents in the air and
tell the, the, the, the, the dampness in
the air versus the dryness in the air.
All of these things are going on
all at once, and your subconscious
mind is processing all of that,
especially when you walked outside.
You could feel the
barometric pressure change.
You could feel the humidity in the air.
You could feel.
And smell the scent of rain long before
you actually were consciously aware of
how you were knowing what was going on.
Right?
And then when your conscious mind found
it, you were like, yep, that's it.
It's gonna rain.
That's the power of the subconscious
mind compared to the conscious mind.
And so when we're talking about not,
again, becoming attuned to it, your
subconscious mind is constantly taking in
all of this data from your experiences.
But the interesting thing is where we
focus is where our energy flows and
it's what we then experience, right?
Tony Bins says it this way.
He says, we don't really
experience reality.
We experience the
reality that we focus on.
Right.
And so as we go forward and people
are trying to figure out, you know,
how do I get the c conscious mind
and subconscious mind in alignment?
One of the biggest things is to be
very aware of what are the, the, what
are the beliefs, what are the values?
What are the I, what's the
identity that we hold dear?
Who do we think we really are?
Right?
And this is why when I started at the
beginning, I told you one of the first
foundational beliefs that I start with
my clients with is that your identity
is that you are here for a reason.
Your identity is that you have
greatness within you regardless
of whatever the external
circumstances you are experiencing.
We start from that premise because that
premise then allows your subconscious mind
to show you very different information.
And it allows you to have very
different inputs in your thoughts,
in your feelings, which then control
your actions, which then control your
results, which then cycle us all the
way back to changing your circumstances.
Raul: Yeah.
It all starts with a belief.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
Raul: That's pretty cool.
That's pretty interesting.
You, you said that you
Robert Heath, Sr.:
You,
Raul: In the
Robert Heath, Sr.:
mm-hmm.
Raul: tell me like how,
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah, so one of the, so there
the, it is a great question.
One of the interesting things, I went to
the Marine Corps because of two things.
Number one, I wanted to have a challenge.
I wanted to be tested.
Number two, I wanted to serve my
country, but most importantly, I
think I wanted to learn how to lead.
Raul: Hmm.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
knew that one of the things that I
believed was that I had a calling
to do and help society in some way
and help my community and be someone
who does good in the world, right?
But I also knew I was coming
from being a teacher, and I knew
that there was a certain level of
leadership that was necessary to
make big things happen in society.
And I knew that I wasn't
quite at that level yet.
And so in going to the Marine Corps,
I was going into an organization where
I knew that it was one of the greatest
leadership training academies in the
world, and something that I learned
right in our first, in our first kind of.
Publication that they had us read.
It's a book called War Fighting.
And in that book it talks about
how, you know, so many people
go into war and war is chaos.
War is the fog of war is everywhere.
You, you, you don't have
perfect information.
You can't make perfect plans.
Everything that we would normally
do in society to make sure that
everything is working well, you
generally don't have in war.
And those that try to manage
the chaos generally struggle and
wind up getting lots of people
killed along the way, right?
But when you learn how
to thrive in the chaos.
That is when you can be a Supreme War
fighter, and that skillset of being
able to thrive in the chaos allows
you to take that not only from to
the battlefield and be successful,
but to be successful in all of life.
And part of it starts from an
understanding that you don't need all the
information to make very good decisions.
You have to understand.
That you're generally gonna have
about 70 to 80% of the information
you need to make a decision.
But that's enough information to
make a decision because what you also
have is the capability of pivoting.
When you realize and learn
new information, and that's
what the reality of life is.
So many people think that there's, you
know, these great planners who just have
these plans that work to the tee and
the reality general, Dwight Eisenhower
said it this way, plans are useless.
Planning is everything.
And planning is so important
because it teaches you how to attune
yourself to the things that you
need to be paying attention to.
As you're executing that plan
that will give you information
to continue on that pathway or
give you the information to pivot
Raul: Yeah.
To capture and collect the information
that you're not collecting right now.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
exactly and to be aware of the information
and to then be able to utilize it
and to be able to utilize it quickly.
Raul: Yeah.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Right.
Raul: It's true.
No, quickly is a, is an important
speed, but not just speed for
speed's sake, but live with pace.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
And the, the, the whole, the whole
concept is be able to see what you're
seeing and make a decision based
on what you're seeing and trust the
fact that if that decision is wrong.
You are going to see what you're seeing
that's telling you that it's wrong and
be able to make another decision that
pivots away from that wrong decision.
And instead of trying to get everything
perfect in hopes that you make the right
decision, it's accepting that you're gonna
make a lot of wrong decisions because no
plan survives first contact, but knowing
that you have the capabilities and the
both intellectually and character wise
to find out what the right thing is.
As Dr.
Angelo said, when you
know better, do better.
Raul: Yeah.
Uh, hopefully you'll do better.
Hopefully you actually take action.
But no, this makes a lot of
sense and I think there's a lot
of this stress with, uh, um.
You know, the, the good and also
the bad of like the phone, social
media and the addictions to
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: from knowing, distract us from
actually paying attention and distract
us from not taming, but connecting like,
uh, with the unconscious and being able
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yes.
Raul: to bring that to surface, to
move through, through our reality.
Uh, effectively, this is, this has been a
pretty fun conversation, a bit ethereal,
but I appreciate these abstract convos.
It's pretty, uh, it's a good refresh for,
for me, but I think the key thing here is.
For our audience listening,
identifying what you mentioned,
Robert, what's your focus?
How are you really aligning to that focus
right now to gather the right information
and pretty much arm your conscious
mind with the already information
that you know, subconsciously plus the
action you need to take to open the
doors that, that you need to, to open
and get information and either change
and get the results that you want.
Um, for our listeners here,
Robert, where's the best place?
People can.
One, thank you for being on and two,
reach out to you, connect with you.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
I appreciate that.
Um, LinkedIn.
I'm on LinkedIn, so you can
catch me at Robert Heath
senior oh oh seven on LinkedIn.
You can also go to our
website, www.tcg.com.
Again, that's T as in tango, L as in
Lima, L as in Lima, charlie goff.com.
Um.
And you can also email
us@supportattcg.com.
Um, there's, there's one thing I wanted to
kind of, to finish up with really quickly.
'cause I know that a little bit of what
we were talking about is a, the or not.
And I intentionally wanted people to,
to, to, to focus in on the feelings and
the, the, the thoughts behind things.
Because here's the reality,
and this is in boardrooms.
This is with my executive
coaching clients.
So many of us have practiced.
Pushing down our desires, pushing down
our wants, pushing through, right?
And the Marine Corps used to call
it embracing the suck, right?
So many of us are very
capable of doing that.
The problem is that is a definite way
for you to be a high achiever, for
you to be above average, for you to
have high esteem in the community.
But there's a difference
between surviving and thriving.
And the biggest thing that we go back
to is remember that all of the, the
tips and the tricks and the tactics of
high performance, everybody knows them.
If you manage your schedule properly,
if you develop certain habits, right?
There's books galore on this.
There are TED talks that you can go
watch on how to be more productive.
What I talk to people about, and most of
my clients are already high producers.
It's not a question of can I do more?
It's more a question of what should
I be doing now that I know I can
do whatever I put my mind to.
Raul: Yeah.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
And that's the place where you have to be
able to tap back in to your identity, to
who you are, to why you are here, because
that's where the fulfillment comes from.
It comes from the alignment of your
skillset, which is productivity and
your being, which is has a purpose.
And when your productivity is matched
with your purpose, that alignment
is when you become a legacy builder.
Raul: Yeah, you can do pretty big things
and I think that's really important.
And I think the, the issue that
you're speaking with are, I wouldn't.
Just those who make it or who made it.
'cause you might be listening
right now and you're like,
oh, I haven't made it yet.
But I think
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: like, if
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yeah.
Raul: really, really reflect on your life
right now, you look at your business or
you look at the company you're with and
look at the work that you're doing and
you're like, I still haven't made it yet.
I think that's a false dream.
If you really look at
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Oh yeah.
Raul: the relationships that you have.
The roof over your head, uh, the
opportunities that are within you, I think
you have the capabilities of making it.
It's not a number, it's not a net worth.
Uh, and just being behind the
boardrooms and working with people
with, like, in that mindset, once
you hit those numbers, or even like
in, in your life, my life, like once
you hit a certain milestone, doesn't
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Mm-hmm.
Raul: life.
I mean, it gives you options, but
it doesn't really change your life.
And I think the key thing here
that you're talking to is like a,
it's a survival, but here is like,
how can I really go further and.
Um, say magnify who you are,
but, uh, expand who you are in
generosity, and I think there's
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Yes, definitely agree.
And you know, uh, Abraham Maslow
called it self-actualization.
When you can actually walk in alignment
and be who your highest self is, right?
That person is more generous.
That person is more magnanimous.
That person is better in every situation.
Because you are living in
alignment and walking in your
true purpose as your true self.
Raul: Yeah, and if you're
breathing, you can do it, Robert.
We'll
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Exactly.
Raul: Thank you again for being on.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
Appreciate you having me.
Oh, and I forgot to tell the
listeners, anybody that's out there,
if you're wondering, how do I do this?
Right?
The question that Raul was asking a
little bit earlier, one of the things
that we're gonna have in the show notes
is a, a free gift for from us to you.
We have a tool that's called a
self-reflection, self-discovery tool.
Right.
How do you define your success?
As you remember at the beginning of this,
when I talked, we talked about what does
success mean to you specifically, and that
has to be in alignment with who you are.
There's a tool that we have that takes
you through, there's an assessment,
there's some other things that you'll
be able to go through and really
figure out what does that mean for you?
And so that's our gift to
everybody who's listening here.
Raul: So we will put that
in the show notes again.
Thank you, Robert.
Robert Heath, Sr.:
No problem.
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