USDN Presents Down The Witches Road

The Chairman and Council Member Amanda Rivas from The Popbreak and The Socially Distanced Podcast are discussing the hottest shows out to include Creature Commandos, Skeleton Crew and you'll get our .02 on Agatha All Along.

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Thanks for watching!

All right.

Amanda, what have you been up to lately?

I know you have had a busy

summer and fall.

Yeah, it's been busy podcasting front.

You know, we're, of course,

covering various topics of

socially distanced weekly.

And then, of course, hey, Kelvin.

And of course, we've been busy.

That's my brother.

That's my brother right there.

So great.

Of course,

we've we've been busy on Anime

Pop as well.

So lots going on the podcasting front.

Lots going on on the cosplay front.

Oh, my gosh.

I feel like I know I've I've

been watching your

adventures and y'all just did.

What was it?

Nostalgia Con.

Nostalgia Con.

And I've seen Brandon Rassel

in full cosplay, which was amazing.

Yes, yes.

He enjoys it.

That's like his element.

It's a whole different level

when he's in cosplay wrestling.

So we had a great time.

We met a lot of different voice actors.

I think one of the

highlights was having Brian

Denevan and Skip Stellaract,

who were Mike Guy and Rock Lee and Naruto,

jump in.

Yeah.

uh their match and that was

completely unplanned that

was awesome that was that

was amazing so we

appreciate them so so much

um they're great people and

we had a we had a blast and

we debuted new cosplays I

noticed those were awesome

thank you yeah so busy on

the cosplay front uh we're

planning for next year

we're trying to get

organized in fact oh good

luck with that yeah yeah

I'm looking around me right

now and I'm like,

we got a lot of storage in.

So we're working on all of those.

But of course, he's been busy wrestling.

He's got, I think,

at least another show for

the end of the year for

Hybrid School of Wrestling.

So that's December twenty first.

So he'll be wrestling and

living his emo best life.

So we're breaking back out

the flocking emo, huh?

Oh, that's his.

That's him.

That is all him.

People ask me, like,

is that I'm like the emo

kid in him is real.

He is the elder emo.

That is all him.

That is so awesome.

Yeah, yeah.

But what about you, my friend?

How have you been?

I've been good.

Busy with work.

Busy with this.

I'm still continuing my USD

in shorts weekly on Comic Book Day.

I recently did my first ever...

How do I describe it?

I was asked to review a

comic book on Kickstarter

that hasn't come out yet.

Nice.

So the writer sent me all

the press details.

He sent me the journalist

copy of the comic book.

So I got to do a nice little

blurb over on Blue Sky that

I shared over onto all my

other platforms as well.

And I'm really excited for this book.

It's called The Cryos.

And if you're a fan of

eighties punk rock and HG

Wells stories and Matt's headroom,

then it's going to be a

cool comic book for y'all

to pick up when it comes out.

Yeah, I love that you're doing the shorts.

Honestly, we're really fine.

They really are.

And they're very helpful.

Because I know for me, I, you know,

I've come in and out of the

world of comics.

And it's really nice to get

somebody that I trust.

That's like, you know, like,

I appreciate you talking to Bill.

So other friends that are

into comics that it's like,

you guys give recommendations.

And it's like, okay, like,

I know it's a good, you know,

it's a good choice.

You're doing the shorts.

I'll be doing a blurb with

Bill on my comic book for

twenty twenty four here soon.

I'm just waiting for him to

shoot me the details on that.

So I'll be getting that

written up and over to him here soon,

as soon as I get more details on it.

So I'm excited to do that.

I'm excited.

He asked.

So, I mean, that tells me that he,

he trusts me to put

something out there for him

that he will enjoy and

everybody will enjoy over

at the pop break.

So I'm excited to do that.

Thank you for doing that for us.

So I always enjoy it.

That's to me, you know,

talking comic books and

comic book characters of,

I've always enjoyed.

And I enjoy it even more now

that I'm collecting again

and reading them again.

So I owe it all to my daughter.

It's her fault that I'm back

into comic books and doing

that fun stuff.

But that's going to pay off

for what we're talking about.

It really is.

Are you ready?

I'm ready.

To take a walk?

I'm ready.

All right, listen.

I think I know where we're going,

but you're going to.

Oh,

we're going down the witch's road today

for at least a little bit.

So let's jump into it.

Let's hit Agatha all along.

And I thought we'll start with the cast.

I really liked this cast and

they chose for this.

And see Debra Jo, Miss Hart.

Yes.

Watching her in that

nineties show being Miss

Red Foreman again was amazing.

I love her anytime she shows

up because we know we're

going to get almost the

same identical character again.

but she plays it differently

every single time.

She does.

She adds a little nuance and

a little spin to it that you're just,

you just enjoy her.

She's awesome.

I was so sad when they

canceled that nineties show.

Like I was really enjoying it.

Cause I was a big fan of

that seventies show.

And then when they said, Oh yeah,

we're going to get rid of

that nineties show.

We're counseling it.

I'm like,

But not to totally tangent here,

they are bringing back

Malcolm in the Middle.

Did you see that?

I did see that.

And I need to make my post

on it because I'm excited about that,

too.

I don't know if the other

two brothers from Malcolm

in the Middle are going to

be joining the cast.

They're bringing all the

original cast back.

Well, I thought there was one,

the youngest one,

who said he would never do

the show again.

We'll find out.

I'm not sure.

I mean, I would love to see them all back.

Maybe if they're bringing

Malcolm in the middle back,

maybe that nineties show will be back.

Maybe instead of that nineties,

it'll be that two thousands.

Who knows?

That would be cool too.

Yeah.

I mean, I've seen them both.

So we'll see.

So, and then we had Catherine Han,

of course, reprising her role as Agatha,

who I'm such a big fan of

Catherine Han since step

bros like that to me,

she cemented herself for me.

And she's like, well,

She's not that average Hollywood,

like she's not this knockout gorgeous,

you know,

person that we see in Hollywood.

She's, she's the girl next door, you know?

And you're like, man,

she sells comedy so well.

She does.

Her physical comedy.

You don't really see a lot

of physical comedy, I feel like, anymore.

To me, she reminds me a lot.

I grew up – I'm a big I Love Lucy fan.

Yes.

I'm a Lucille Ball fan.

And she has that same –

energy and the moment you

said physical comedy out my

head immediately went to to

I love lucy yeah you know

we owe you know everything

to because she basically

gave us the sci-fi genre

she did with when she gave

us star trek and greenlit

it herself and paid for it herself yeah

And you don't see that kind

of physical comedy from a

lot of female comedians.

You don't.

And so Catherine Hahn is very,

very refreshing.

I love her in Parks and Rec.

She was just a scene stealer.

Parks and Rec is so good.

That's one of my go-to shows.

Same.

So I will go to Parks and

Rec before I'll watch The Office.

Yeah,

there's just a thing about Parks and Rec.

I enjoy The Office,

but I feel like I enjoyed

the early-mid parts of The

Office before the cast

changes and all of that.

The latter seasons,

I didn't care for too much.

It's one of those I stuck

with because I'm like, well,

I've watched this far.

Yeah, you're committed at that point.

Yeah, and then Parks and Rec, though,

consistently good across the board.

Just consistently great.

Catherine Hahn just showing up.

Again, she stole the show.

I would love to be her best friend.

She's just that level of awesome.

And she was a perfect fit for Agatha.

She was.

And she fit the character,

the comic book version of

the character to a T. Who, by the way,

she first made her appearance in,

what was it?

Issue ninety four of the

Fantastic Four in October

of nineteen sixty nine.

She was invented by Stanley

and Jack Kirby.

And she was an ally of

Marvel's first family.

And she was the nanny to

Reed Richards and Sue Storm's son,

Franklin.

That is where she got her start,

which is really cool.

She's been out that long.

And oh, by the way,

she's the first and only

character to get a Marvel

TV show who doesn't have

her own standalone comic book.

that I did not know really

no standalone she has no

standalone comic book huh I

think she does now because

they did a uh run of agatha

all along okay comic book

but nonetheless before the

tv show like nobody did

anybody really know before

wandavision who she was

No,

unless you read Fantastic Four or some

of the other, you know.

And that's issue ninety four

that came out in nineteen sixty nine.

The odds.

Well,

I'm sure there's some people that

still have that comic book laying around,

but the odds of them

actually reading it still are slim.

So.

Wow.

I had no idea.

So no preexisting minus.

I mean, you know,

we had now you mentioned the long comic,

which I don't really it's

like an adaptation.

I feel like I'm like, yeah,

but I get the pure I get the story.

There's nothing.

Nothing exists.

I did not know that.

I am today years old learning that.

Which to me is cool that

Marvel put together a show

based on a character who

really didn't have a backstory,

who didn't really have

you know,

a lot to go on and they created

the backstory for her,

which was written and done beautifully.

I love the way they did it

as they told the story

throughout each episode of her past.

Yes.

And I was like, and then we had that,

what was it?

I think it was episode three

where we had that initial

flashback scene.

Yeah.

I can't remember if it was,

it was like three or four or four.

Yeah.

And that was,

that was probably the best

flashback scene I had ever seen.

And we've gotten some good ones in Marvel,

but that one,

I'm not sure who actually

wrote that episode,

but that was the best

flashback I had seen in Marvel.

So kudos to that team over

there that wrote this,

because this show showed

that you can do a Marvel

show on a smaller,

insignificant character as she may be.

Yeah.

Oh, that the finale episode.

I know we'll get there,

but just even the extra

fleshed out backstory.

Yes.

Was, I mean, I,

I completely agree with

everything you're saying.

I mean, just,

just to take someone that is

a relatively minor

character in the franchise

and then you give them this

incredibly rich backstory,

moving backstory.

Yeah.

I had my kudos to yours.

Good chairman.

Appreciate it.

Appreciate it.

And, you know,

this show immediately pits

up where WandaVision left

off and just kind of keeps

going with the flow of things.

And I thought that was just

really cool the way they

did it because she's still

stuck in the WandaVision

bubble herself when all the

neighbors are out of it.

But Agatha herself is not.

She's still stuck.

Like she's basically still a

squatter in somebody's home.

Yeah.

So I enjoyed the true detective.

I did too.

Like I really enjoyed the

way they opened it up.

And I was just like, man,

if the whole thing is like this, because,

you know,

she comes out of it at the end

of the episode with an

Aubrey Plaza meets her appearance,

which I thought, well, I don't actually,

I want to save Aubrey.

Let's talk about Joe Locke

who played Wiccan.

Another character choice

that I've never heard of this kid.

Never heard of him.

He may be like a twenty something.

I don't know.

But he did such an excellent job.

And even his backstory in

this show was done very well.

It's not like the comic book,

but it was done so well

that it didn't bother you.

And I'm still applauding the writers.

I'm probably going to do

that the entire time we

talk about this because it

was a very well written show.

Well,

and I have to give props to the

costume department too,

because I loved his look.

Like just the, especially when he goes.

Yeah.

Well,

like even the little crown that

mirrors Wanda is like.

That was actually done as a

homage to his mom.

Yes.

To the original Wiccan in the comic book.

Yes, I loved the colors.

I loved the look.

It was such a really well put together,

beautiful aesthetic.

And realizing how strong he

actually was without

realizing how strong he

actually was was great storytelling.

The entire Witch's Road isn't even real.

He made that in his own mind

and put all the other coven

witches in it.

Which is phenomenal.

That's up there with his

mom's level of power.

I think even in ways

potentially could surpass Wanda's power.

Yeah.

Because if you're creating new realities,

if you will, and you're with your powers.

He didn't even know.

No.

I mean, at least when Wanda did it,

she kind of knew she was

off her rocker again and

she knew what she was doing.

and he didn't even realize

he had the ability.

I mean,

I think he kind of knew that he had

a power,

but I don't think he realized he

had it to that extent.

And that's him right now

being able to do a power

that technically in her

prime she's doing is the

way I'm looking at it.

And that whole ability when

you're just a teenager to

do exactly what your mom

does and then a little bit more,

Yep.

I'm like, wow,

how much more powerful is

Wiccan going to be?

And then that's not even

including his dad's abilities.

Yes.

As well.

So I'm like,

how much more powerful is

Wiccan going to be?

He's definitely nerfed in

the show in the beginning,

but I don't mind it because

it was done so well, you know?

And it made you care about him.

It really did.

As a character.

And so when his story hit,

Joe Lockman knocked it out of the park.

He did.

It's absolutely amazing.

Adored him, adored him.

And I love the chemistry he

has with Catherine Han,

their ability to play off each other,

his comedic timing and

pulling everybody together

and being able to interplay

with a lot of these,

these very famous actresses

who are known for their comedic timing.

Just he fit in beautifully.

So let's talk about these other,

the other coven witches.

We had a Sashir Zamata play

in Jennifer Kell.

Allie Ann, who is a fantastic stand-up,

playing Alice Wu Gulliver,

whose mom wrote the song.

And then we had, of course,

Patti LuPone playing Lillian,

who was their... I forgot what she was.

She was a psychic in the TV series.

You get to see glimpses of the future.

Yeah,

and then Aubrey Plaza playing Rio Vidal,

a.k.a.

Death.

But

I like how when they were

doing the flashback scene,

how we seen how all of

these people intertwined

with each other to begin with.

Yes.

Yes.

I thought that was brilliant.

When we got to Wiccan's backstory,

if you will, and how everybody Yeah,

how everyone interplayed like, here's,

here's how he saw.

Here's how he saw this

person or this person and this person,

and they're all here together.

And it's the witch coven

castings were perfect.

Yep.

And here's another cool thing.

Jennifer Kell is one of the

ghost writers cousin.

Oh, you're good.

I'm surprised mine isn't

doing the same thing.

Somebody's at my, like probably, buddy,

come on.

He just wanted to make his

presence known and just

apologize for a little earlier, I'm sure.

He's good.

He's just doing what he does.

Yeah.

But so I'm waiting to see,

because they've already

said that Jennifer Kell's character,

or Shira Zamata's Jennifer

Kell will show up later on

in a ghost writer, you know,

type of role or movie.

or series,

whatever they have planned for

Ghost Rider.

And I know Patty Lupin just

got nominated for an award

for a Best Supporting Actress,

which was really cool to

see that the show was

getting so much love during award season.

I don't know if they won anything,

but it was cool to see a

relatively unknown

character so well written

that it is getting

nominated and the

characters in it are

getting nominated for awards.

Yeah.

I mean, I'm trying to think of,

I have to go look at who

else is nominated in the

different categories.

Cause I'm wondering if

they'll pick up something

like special effects or may, you know,

costume.

Like I could see something

along those lines, although I hope that,

you know,

it would be lovely to see

somebody from the show actually win.

Oh, I agree.

I agree.

They all did a great job.

Their special effects team,

especially the practical

effects when it came time

to make death and Aubrey Plaza, uh,

And how they evolved her

character per episode,

slowly revealing who she was.

And I was like, when she cut,

like in the one scene where

they're on the witch's road

and she cut the fabric of

time and just walked through it.

I'm like,

there's very few characters that

could do that.

So at that point in my head, I'm like,

she's got to be one of two

characters that could do that.

And one of them is death.

Because death is everywhere all at once.

Yes.

Yes.

And I'm like, if she ends up being death,

I'm probably going to lose my mind.

And I, sure enough, I lost it.

I was just like, oh my God, yes,

we have death in the MCU.

She's a perfect choice.

She really was.

Her quirky character,

she pulled very much from

her character on Parks and Rec.

She had little sprinkles of

her character from Parks

and Rec with how she was

always very grim and very,

I don't want to say emo, but very emo.

Yeah.

Well,

I feel like even some of the humor

she injected was very April Ludgate style,

and I was here for it.

But I loved her costumes,

her look throughout the show.

Her evolution was magic.

Yes, yes.

But I have to go back to

Patti LuPone for a minute

because her backstory,

and I love that they did

this for The Witch's Road.

I know we'll talk about it, but...

Her backstory and the way

her story completed was so

beautifully done.

It really was.

And I, her,

her own flashbacks and then

finally her demise

ultimately in being back

where she kind of wanted to

be and to reset herself with her.

I think it was her grandmother.

That she had to flashbacks with?

I don't know if that was her grandma.

Definitely her teacher.

Yeah.

But yes, I guess her coven leader,

I would suppose.

Yeah, her mentor, whoever it was.

But that to me was like,

I hated to see her go

because it was heartbreaking.

But they did it so well.

Do you think she's actually dead though?

Because remember,

she can hop in and out through time.

It's Marvel.

Nobody's ever actually dead.

They're telling us she hops

inadvertently in and out

through time in different timelines.

I think she was discovering

new powers as we went.

Beautifully acted by Patti LuPone.

You had to have her sing.

You had to have her sing.

I loved how each

little trial during the

witch's road was something

just a little different my

favorite one was probably

the band oh I loved that

one I was here for the

seventies vibe right off

the bat that was right up

my alley did I want to take

like audrey plaza's or

aubrey plaza's wardrobe yes

I did everybody did oh dude everybody did

Somebody wants to make an appearance.

All the fur babies are like, hi.

We're here today.

He's like, I want to get to the other side,

but you're blocking my way, dude.

He's like,

you have a microphone and

everything else.

He's like,

you're talking about a band

episode in the seventies?

Here I am.

He randomly likes to show up.

I stopped him from giving

everybody a show of his starfish.

Yeah.

That's his favorite thing to do.

He'll say, hey, here's my starfish.

Everybody have a look.

And then he'll jump off and

go do his thing.

It's about right for cats.

Oh, yeah.

He's on par for being himself.

But what did you think of

how they did the Witch's

Road as each of the Witch's Trial?

I enjoyed it.

Like, it was... I like how, despite...

young wiccan here or teen as

he's known he doesn't know

what he's doing but he's

doing it perfectly and

helping everybody on the

way down the the witch's

road like his

subconsciously he's doing

these things and

subconsciously he's helping

each one of his friends

from the coven um work

through their own mental

or what it trial like each

trial is meant to help each

witch with their own

problem that they're

currently having or however

you want to say that right

and um it was done so well

like the way each one

represented a witch and

helped a different witch

with their own problems so

I I really enjoyed it and how about you

I did.

I enjoyed it.

I thought that was a really

great way to help you

connect to each of the

witches in the coven.

I love that it was tied to

the song lyrics and each journey.

And it was, it was really well done.

And I feel like for me,

I even like some of the

comedy that was injected.

Like I was cracking up with

Jennifer skincare.

Yes.

Like we need like petroleum

or something like just a person there.

She's like, I was like, it's just, yeah,

that was awesome.

She's like,

cause she was cursed and she

was cursed by, you know,

one of Catherine Han's old, you know,

somebody that she worked

for it previously in the

past who wanted to dull her powers.

So I like how everything

just came back to every little thing.

Like every detail around

this coven is interwoven to

such great detail in that

they were always interwoven

and just none of them never

knew it until they started

the walk down the witch's road.

so so well done so so well I

will keep going back to it

kudos to this writing team

and just this team in

general the actors the

actresses producers writers

directors what have you all

executed this show so well

so I can't say that enough so

Yeah.

What'd you think about the song itself?

So catchy.

I still find myself, you know, singing it.

And, uh,

it's actually why I named the

title of this episode down

the witch's road.

Cause it was just,

it's such a catchy thing.

And from here until eternity,

anytime you see down the witch's road,

you're immediately going to

sing the song.

Yes.

And I thought it was cool

what it actually

represented with Catherine Hans, uh,

Agatha and her son.

Yes.

And it was a fun,

quirky little song they

made up as they were

traveling along the old world.

So I thought that was really

cool that it wasn't meant

to be what it was.

It was just a fun song she

sung with her son as they traveled.

And I give kudos to all the

actresses and the actors

for singing the song.

I think I saw a clip.

I don't know if it was like

comicbook.com or something

where they showed like a

behind the scenes like of the actual,

you know,

all the actresses singing the

song themselves.

And I thought that was so.

I've seen that one.

Yes.

A little short on YouTube,

but it was originally done

by comicbook.com.

Yeah, and it was cool just seeing them.

That takes tremendous talent.

And it was so cool because

some of the behind-the-scenes type stuff,

this entire cast and crew

got along so well together.

You could tell they were

enjoying each other while they filmed.

So I thought that was really cool.

You don't see a lot of that

where you could tell where

they actually get along with each other.

And they're actually having

fun on the show.

It's not just, oh, we're here to do a job.

No,

they're having fun while they're doing

it.

So it was really cool to see that.

So here's one more for you.

Another little fun trivia.

And then we'll probably move

on to Creature Commandos after this,

unless you have something

else for Agatha.

But the exterior scenes of

Westview were filmed on

Blondie Street on Warner

Brothers Ranch before the

neighborhood was demolished.

The sit was previously used

for WandaVision.

And the house that Agatha

lived in should have looked

very familiar because it

was used on the TV series Bewitched.

I wondered.

It did look familiar,

especially when they're

having the fight inside.

I was like,

there's something about this house.

The old wood paneling gave it away.

Yes.

So I thought that was really cool.

That is really neat.

I didn't realize it was Bewitched.

I was like,

this looks familiar for some reason.

I was like...

it's either Bewitched or

Dick Van Dyke or one of those.

See, I thought maybe Dick Van Dyke.

I thought maybe that was like,

it's definitely a retro show,

like an older show, but I was like,

which one?

Or I Dream of Jeannie even, you know?

Yeah.

Because they were all around

that same time frame and I

was just like...

because my head was like

this house is very

seventies I'm like it has

I'm like I've seen this

before and then as I was

you know writing the

original episode for agatha

and I was like looking for

fun little fats for it I

was I come across that one

I was like oh that's

perfect and that's so cool

that it was bewitched yes

does it meet it we're

talking about witches so it it was like

Dude,

that's like the perfect... The way

everything's tied together

from the house.

There's some type of

callback and reference to everything.

Even on the opening and closing credits,

they had tie-ins to other shows.

And I'm just like, this was done so well.

Even some Wiccan...

actual practicing beliefs.

I'm not.

I've read into, obviously,

you look at stuff like horoscopes,

astrology, even some basic Wiccan things.

I have friends who have dove

into it more and they're

very interested in

witchcraft and how that all

comes together in the

history of witches and whatnot.

A lot of the information was

very accurate.

They did their homework.

They definitely did their homework.

I just wish somebody had

like scrunched their nose.

And then the little,

if somebody would have did the,

I dream of Jeannie thing, I would have,

I would have, I've been like, okay,

I've seen everything.

I'm like, this is perfect.

Now I can go ahead and dig my hole,

stick me in it.

I'm good to go.

So now that I know the houses be,

which I just really wanted

somebody to pull a Samantha

and do the little,

the little nose wiggle.

I can't do it.

I can't absolutely not.

But that is,

So overall, recommend, not recommend.

Would you go back and watch it again?

I definitely would recommend to people.

Now I find myself going, okay,

like I personally enjoyed it.

I loved it.

I,

now I think there's two camps of people

that there are people who

prefer the ground, ground level Marvel,

you know, kind of the more of the true,

like fighting Avengers or like, you know,

kind of was like the

daredevil coming out and all of that.

I think somebody who's more

ground level may have a

tougher time because

with the show even though

it's an excellent show I

think that that's that's

what I've heard when I've

talked to other people

about it um but I think

that people who enjoyed

wandavision and dr strange

and kind of the more

multiversal a little bit

more theoretical uh magical

elements of it are really

going to enjoy this show

for me those elements have

always been there they have

it's just yeah and you've

talked to some of the same

people I'm sure where it's like

I want my, my ground level Marvel.

I think if people are open to it,

if you're a ground level Marvel person,

be open to this because it is really,

really neat.

And you're going to see, yeah.

And Wiccan and Agatha,

you're going to see them again.

Oh yeah.

Yeah, definitely.

I don't think we'll get a

Agatha season two, but I do think we'll,

we'll get a,

maybe a Wiccan season one

with Agatha helping him find his brother.

Because remember at the end,

he found his brother and he

shoved his soul into another body.

Yes.

See,

I'm thinking that we are going to get

so I would rewatch the show

to answer that question.

And I think that I feel like

we're going to see Wiccan

pop up in like a Young Avengers.

That would be awesome.

Now,

I think we're going to get cameos like

people are going to run

into Wiccan as he's doing

his search maybe here and there.

But I think we're going to

see full fleshed out what's

going on in Young Avengers.

I feel like they're setting up for it.

I do too, especially with,

I know they just announced

Hawkeye season two, not that long ago.

So I definitely see it.

And now that they've cast

Aubrey Plaza as death and

death has been around since

the beginning of Marvel,

like she's made appearances

in the older comic books.

She's always been there in the background.

And supposedly there were

cut scenes from other

Marvel movies that featured a

a death character that we

never saw because it was

cut for time in or what have you.

But now that it is Aubrey Plaza as death,

they can't cast nobody else's death.

Yeah.

It has to be Aubrey Plaza until, you know,

the end of Marvel or the end of Aubrey.

One or the other.

That's how it has to be now.

Well,

never say never because look at what

they're doing with proper townie.

Now, Chris Evans.

Yeah.

And I,

I wish when people would announce like,

hey, I'm done with Marvel.

Thank you for having me.

They would just stay done

because I don't know how I

really feel until I see

what version of Dr. Doom

we're going to get or what

version of Chris Evans

we're going to get.

Are we going to get Captain

Hydra Chris Evans?

Are we going to get an

alternate timeline Iron Man

where he became Dr. Doom?

So there's a lot of things

there that I'm not really.

I think we're getting the whole day.

I mean, that's possible too.

I kind of feel like they're

bringing back the original

Avengers to be like evil

versions of themselves and

to really psychologically

mess with everyone.

Like, can you imagine,

can you imagine Tom Holland,

Spider-Man like Dr. Doom

pulls off the mask and it's,

it's just dark.

Yeah.

No, I mean, I can see that too,

but we'll see.

I'm so far.

Never if they recast.

Yeah.

I mean,

I wouldn't be mad if they recast

these guys.

Cause I mean,

they couldn't play the parts forever.

Right.

But we'll see how it works out,

but you're ready to,

to talk task force M.

Are we ready to bump into

Task Force M on the road?

Because I'm ready.

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm ready.

Let's jump over to Task Force M,

aka the Creature Commandos,

who I've been a fan.

big fan of the creature

commandos and like the just

in dc in general I'm a

bigger fan of like the

justice league dark okay

which some of these guys

have been a part of that

team in the past and like

the you know the magic more

the focus on like

The John Constantine's and

the Zatanna's and that kind of stuff.

That's always been my

favorite DC characters.

Not this Batman's and the

Superman's and that kind of stuff.

But these guys,

these odd bunch of people

that we have playing Task

Force M. I've always been a

bigger fan of these guys.

So for me,

this show is like a dream come true.

Yay!

So I was really excited when

they made this announcement,

and James Gunn was like,

because he tried to get

this show made before,

and DC shut him down.

So as soon as he became the head of DC,

he was like, hey,

I'm greenlighting my own

show that I pitched to you years ago.

So good on him.

He's like, oh,

I'll just become the head of

DC and do it myself.

So then that's what he did,

and this is the first part

of his chapter one of DC

that he's calling Gods and Monsters.

So this is the first installment of that.

And I'm ecstatic, to be fair.

I'm such a huge fan of these

types of comic book characters.

You're unlikely heroes, if you will.

So for me, I'm all about it.

And we got Viola Davis back

as Amanda Waller.

Anya Chalotra as Cersei,

which is another really

cool kind of bottom...

She's from the same world as Wonder Woman.

She's an Amazonian.

Yes, that's right.

She is an Amazonian.

I also remember the actress.

She's from The Witcher, isn't she?

She is.

I do like the magic connection.

I can guarantee you with it

being James Gunn,

that was done on purpose.

Yes.

Yes.

then we got frank grillo who

has seen a resurgence of

his career in the past few

years which I'm always

happy to see I'm a big fan

of his um yeah he's playing

rick flag senior he's also

been basically that we've

we already know we're

getting a general rick flag

in a live action because

he's already he's signed on

to play rick flag in live

action he looks the part I

think he really does he's

And I like the fact that

they took the animated

version and made it very similar to him.

So when he does show up

later as the live-action Rick Flagg Sr.,

you're going to be like, oh, dude,

that's perfect.

He's at that perfect age right now, too,

where it makes a lot of

sense for him to be the Sr.

So then we have Indira Varma.

who is killing it as the

bride of Frankenstein.

Like I love episode two,

simply because they put

that focus on her and Eric Frankenstein.

Yes.

Her would be husband, AKA the Frankenstein,

wherever you want to call him.

He's at his actual name in DC is Eric.

Oh, that's right.

It is Eric.

And I love that they brought,

is it David Harbor?

Yep.

It's David Harbor.

Yep.

who is to me like perfect

hell boy he was like these

types of role are one

hundred percent his lane

and you know from stranger

things to to hell boy his

version of hell boy and

voice in frankenstein eric

frankenstein is to me just

and he's used to the

practical effects and the

makeup so I mean if they

bring him into live action

yep which I've always like

me has been like give me

live action creature

commandos and I would not

be upset as long as the

makeup it's not overly cgi

and it's a mix give me a

practical cgi gimmicks and

then uh the legendary alan

tudyk yeah and dr

phosphorus he's also on tap

to play clayface in here

and another character as

well he'll be voicing on

this show so he's also

going to voice clayface

On Creature Commandos as well.

And yeah, he's goaded at this point.

Give him a start on the Walk of Fame.

Give him whatever he wants

because this dude is.

Another one, since he did Resident Alien,

has just seen this huge

resurgence of himself.

And I'm here for it.

I love it.

And do you think he shows up

in Andor Season Two?

Oh, absolutely.

One of our favorite droids.

Absolutely.

He'll be there.

He will definitely be there.

And I'm going to be like,

you know what always struck

me with Star Wars was droids.

I'm a huge fan of the droids in Star Wars.

Always will be.

To me,

that's been the most fascinating

thing ever.

And I was such a huge robot

nerd that when Star Wars had droids,

I was like, I'm in.

Say no more.

I'm in.

He's the only droid that has

the distinction of making me cry.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

I think he's the only one so

far that I'm just like, yeah.

He's perfect for that kind of stuff.

And he is just Yeah,

Dr. Phosphorus amazing in this show.

And Sean Gunn, of course, playing GI robot,

the Nazi killer.

Which is Yeah, his brother.

Yeah, it's him.

But

At the same time,

he's so good at voicing

characters that I'm not even mad.

It's perfect for G.I.

Robot.

And it's the humorous.

I love that he keeps his

humorous streak going.

Well, that's him.

That's the character.

That's the comic book as well.

but I also think it's the actor too.

Like it's, that's just his thing.

Like he's, he's hilarious.

He's great.

He's a great,

like his comedic timing is

hilarious and a guardians.

And it's like, I love that.

He keeps that little, keeps that going,

you know, here for,

he was great for GI robot.

I loved it when he was

sitting there talking to what's her name?

Nina.

Yeah.

Mina.

Yeah.

He's like, I'm happy.

I'm killing Nazis with you, Mina.

We're going to kill Nazis together, Mina.

And she's like, yeah, dude,

I'm happy to kill Nazis with you too,

bud.

I was like, this is so great.

Like, where are the Nazis?

Where are the Nazis at?

I can't.

And I love when he's like

guarding Princess Ileana.

He's just standing there and he's like,

in the nineteen forties,

I killed seven hundred

Nazis or seven Nazis in a

concentration camp outside

of whatever city it was.

And he's just getting there,

giving his history and

weasels like not fuck out on the floor,

just like sleeping.

And so I couldn't find the

weasel voice actor,

but I'm guessing that's still done by.

Yeah.

I thought it was Sean Gunn as well.

Sean, yeah.

That's what I was thinking.

It didn't really list him.

When I was writing this out,

they really didn't mention him a whole lot,

but I was just like,

I'm pretty sure that Sean gun.

Well, yeah, I'm looking it up too.

Yes.

It's Sean gun.

And he was the last survivor of, um,

suicide squad,

which of course they found

him just like on the beach, like stunned,

like, but in case everybody don't know,

this show picks up at the

end of suicide squad, uh,

And after the first season of Peacemaker.

So Suicide Squad has happened.

The first season of

Peacemaker has happened.

And that's where this show

pits up with Creature Commandos,

which if you're thinking your history,

that's that's where it's at

is right after those events.

That's why there's no, you know,

Rick Flag Jr.

Leading these guys.

Yeah,

I liked how it just went with like a

hot start.

It really did.

It was great.

Introduce your characters

and send them on their way.

Because sometimes shows tend

to do this where we're

going to give you a lot of exposition.

You're going to get every

backstory right off the bat, all this.

And I'm like,

and you lose half the episode.

You get two episodes of

where they're actually

doing what they do.

And I'm glad they didn't do that.

I'm glad they're like, you know,

bleeding it into the action.

Like, Oh,

here's why the bride of

Frankenstein is here.

Here's where she comes from.

And then how strong she is

and what she's capable of.

And that scene,

her episode two was fantastic.

And it really gave you why

she is and why she is.

it made you care about her.

Like I loved her coming out.

Like I already loved her

energy for the first episode,

just that whole like a bad-ass, you know,

kind of like she's there

drinking with the guy.

Like, like, you know, she,

she can run with whatever's

thrown at her.

And so you get this very tough exterior,

but then he's seeing her

backstory and watching that

vulnerability that's there.

I mean, I just, I loved her even more.

Oh, yeah.

She was... I'm glad that was her first.

They gave us her first.

I'm really looking forward

to seeing Mina's as well.

Yes.

Because I know hers is really good, too.

And there's a reason, I feel like.

It's very strategic why

she's considered the one

that keeps them all in line.

Yep.

And she was one of the

original leaders of it.

And one of the original scientists,

if you go back into the comic books.

Yeah.

So, so let me ask you this.

How familiar were you with

the creature commandos

prior to the TV series?

So I actually was not very familiar.

I had not read the,

read the comics for it.

I mean, obviously I know who the bride is.

I know a lot of,

a lot of it from more of the,

the universal Hollywood

type of universal monsters

type of standpoint.

But I was still super

intrigued because to me,

DC,

while it's been hit or miss with the

live action, me putting it mildly,

but what I love is with

their animated shows,

and you and I have talked

about some of the animated

content before just offline,

I feel like the animated shows,

they just knock it out of the park.

They do.

For some reason,

they put that formula right.

I don't know why it is that way.

When they can execute a TV

series or an animated series so well,

but they fail so badly at live action.

I know.

And it's just like, you know, I grew up,

I was a Batman animated

series kid growing up and, you know,

remember watching the mask

of the phantasm and, you know, it's just,

it's just a,

and now you have like the

adventure Superman and they

just come in and they just

knock it out of the park.

A lot of that is they stay

true to what the comic book is in those.

Yes.

And they don't give us extra fluff.

It's like, okay,

here's a comic book story

from the comic book.

We're going to animate it

and bring it to life for you.

And that's what's enjoyable.

The Harley Quinn series is great.

And it's actually a comic book.

Yeah.

And I'm like,

they've been nailing the

formula before even Netflix

came along with their animated series.

I feel like DC had it right

on that regard.

I feel like they were the

ones that made you stop saying cartoons.

Yeah.

yep and into I'm watching an

animated show or an

animated series and it's

adult animated series

exactly for the kids oh

yeah this one definitely is

not for the kids no this

one for sure is not for the

kids no no I mean what did

I I mean how familiar you

said you were super excited

for creature commandos how

what what is your history

with because I know again

you you've got the comic

lore what is your history

I've always been a big fan

of the odd comic book

characters like this and I

remember seeing

like members of the creature

commandos pop up in like

justice league dark and a

few other comic books

throughout the years and um

so for me like granted I

could never really get my

hands on a good copies of

like the older comics that

feature them because

they're just out of price

range but I would like

first time I seen gi robot

I was like okay yeah that's

like that's so cool and then

frankenstein actually being

a comic book character to

me was a selling point but

it's not your universal

frankenstein I mean it is

but it's its own comic book

dc twist on it and the same

with the bride of

frankenstein and um the

creature from the black

lagoon which is the

creature from the black

lagoon but it's a female

yes and she's I think

they're gorgons in this is

what they're what they are

And she's this really smart

scientist whose father, I think,

experimented on her.

Or I can't remember the exact backstory.

And I'm just like, dude,

this is like great stuff.

I love odd comic book characters.

Always have.

Like Spawn,

back when it came out in the nineties,

was like, this guy should not be a hero.

And he's not in that term.

He just don't like to see

bad things happen to people

trying to make good.

And so it always stuck out to me.

And this, of course, you know,

the original comic I told

you came out in the eighties.

It was written by J.M.

DeMatteis and Pat Broderick.

And it was a team of

monsters originally brought

together to fight Nazis.

And I think the last time

they actually appeared as a

team in the comic book was

the early two thousands.

But of course, like I said,

some of these guys have

made sporadic appearances

throughout the years in

Justice League Dark and a

few other magic-esque.

Because you know DC is very deep,

unlike Marvel with their

magic and their darkness.

And Superman's vulnerabilities is magic.

So they've always kept those

kind of stories out there.

And that these people pose real threats to

know their mainline

characters despite them not

being like you know

superman-esque type of

stuff type of level of uh

superhero but that's the

one thing I've appreciated

more about dc and their

older vertigo comments and

well now vertigo is back so

we're starting to see that

come back onto the shelves as well

But just the odd comic book

character to me is those

have always stuck to me

more than your Spider-Man's,

your Superman's, your Batman's, you know,

your mainstream Iron Man type stuff.

So and that's what I collect

to this day is those odd

characters like that.

So.

I love it.

No, but task force him.

So let me ask you this, like.

In seeing the TV show now,

are you more interested in

seeing what else these

characters have done and

where else they could take them?

Oh, absolutely.

I think it's,

it's a whole different take on the, again,

like the universal monsters, you know,

like that you knew and loved growing up.

And I like, you know, for me,

I'm super curious about, you know,

what the bride can do now

that she's seen what Cersei

has to show her with this vision,

you know, this, this, and, and, you know,

just, you,

you care about these characters,

even GI robot, you care about GI robot.

Like you're like, okay,

he seems like he's got a

very intriguing vision.

So in the comic book, he does.

He was found.

And he was literally a robot

designed to kill Nazis.

And I forgot which version

of it was that he had also

had a robot dog and his

robot dog had a robot cat.

I love that.

And I think the first one

was called Jack one.

then they found another

version later years later

and that one was called

jack two I think is what it

was called I can't remember

what it stands for but it

was he's a robot designed

to kill nazis yeah just

like the whole team

originally the concept was

you know I think in

nineteen sixties when did

this first come out I think

yeah in nineteen eighty so

we were coming out of the

cold war and all that kind

of are in the cold war still

but you know the nazis were

still very much on the

forefront of people's minds

yeah so it is your typical

you know eighties comic

book you know what can we

do to make these guys cool

have them kill nazis

Yeah.

Well,

and I love that the show creates

curiosity about, you know,

it's not like here,

we just got a group of

monsters together and good luck.

It's, it's, it's, you know,

cause I mean the concept

has been done of getting

the group of misfits together before,

you know,

with the suicide squad and they

are not shameless about saying, yeah,

we're, we, we're going to,

we're going to just do this again,

but they make you care

about the characters.

Like it makes you,

it makes them more relatable and,

And I think that's kind of

where Suicide Squad failed

to some degree is, yeah,

we know who the characters are,

but you failed to make me

give a shit in the movie about them.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So now that, you know,

we these guys were getting

to know the character and

we care about what they are

and who they are, because, yeah,

we're getting the action

that you expect from a James Gunn flick.

But he's also tying in their

bat stories to the main story.

So that to me is pretty cool.

So for you,

did you feel like this was a

good choice for James Gunn

to just that this should

have been the first or

should Superman have been

the first property he went out with?

With this one,

with chapter one of his

universe being titled Gods and Monsters,

I thought this was the

perfect choice to start.

And

And I'm really hoping like, yeah,

I know we're getting Superman here soon.

A whole nother at least it's

not going to be an origin

story of Superman.

We're getting that actual Superman story.

We're not going to find out

that he grew up in a farm in Kansas.

We're not.

We know that.

And I like the fact that

you're getting a new Superman story.

You're getting him, you know, as he is.

He's we know who he is.

We know what he is.

I'm giving you a Superman story.

And that works for me

because I don't want to see

another origin story of Superman.

I don't want to see a Smallville.

I don't want to see that shit no more.

I want to see Clark Kent

working at the newspaper.

I want to see him.

Don't give me the old shit

that we've seen since the

eighties with Christopher Reeves.

I don't want that no more.

Just give me a straight up story.

And that's what he's going to do.

So I'm really excited to see

what he does with it.

Yeah, this is to me a good choice,

a safe choice, because again,

with the animated track record,

I wouldn't necessarily say

it was the safe choice, though,

because these characters are odd.

Not a lot of people know who they are.

True.

And it's certified fresh.

So I will give it that.

It's doing really well with views.

It's doing really well and

getting a lot of positive feedback.

So I will say that for him.

Like he took a risk.

the risk worked I will also

say there was another group

of artists who pitched this

to dc I can't remember when

it was it might have been

the early two thousands

maybe and they were denied

the group of artists who

who wanted to redo this

show or this comic but they

were denied that that honor

so they took their

characters that they made

and made them into their own thing

They're like, okay, well,

we'll just rename the character,

change some things up,

and we'll have our own Dr. Phosphorus,

our own GI robot.

And that is Ghost Machine,

which everybody's been

hearing me ranting and rave

about on my USDN shorts.

Because they have Geiger,

who is Dr. Phosphorus in DC.

And his story is similar to

Dr. Phosphorus'.

Only his name is Geiger.

He was a normal dude.

And he's this reluctant

superhero fighting in a post-waste world.

And then their GI robot is

called Junkyard Joe.

They look identical.

Junkyard Joe just made his

first appearance in Geiger issue ten.

And, of course,

they just released his compendium book.

I just picked up the Geiger

issue one through six compendium.

And they're doing a really

great job because it's a different story.

They went the complete

opposite route of why the

Creature Commandos are.

But it's still obvious that

these guys got frustrated

with DC trying to make a

comic book for them and did

their own thing.

And their own thing is

killing it right now.

so I'm really happy for jeff

johns and that crew over at

ghost machine because they

are doing a fantastic job

delivering is something

that looks similar but yet

very different so

I know.

I'm just... I'm so glad we

got Creature Commandos.

Because again, it's a fresh take.

It's not like, hey,

let's revisit a character

that we've... Or characters

that we've seen done to

death pretty much in DC.

And it's still characters that...

even if you haven't read the

comics you're familiar with,

like who doesn't know who

the bride of Frankenstein is?

Who doesn't know who Frankenstein is?

You know?

And yeah, I think this, this,

I feel like I say safe

because at least we know

what the animated properties,

they usually do well.

They knock it out of the park.

They usually do well.

He could have done this in live action.

And I still hope he does.

I still hope he does.

Like maybe not a full up

live action creature commandos,

but we randomly see, you know,

GI robot pop up and he's

just blasting people.

Or we see Frankenstein in

the background slaying

somebody with his big ass

sword or something, you know, like, like,

wait, was that Frankenstein we just seen?

To me, that would be really cool.

I think to people, though,

if he had done any live

action project first,

people would have poo-pooed

all over it because it's of the past.

Because of DC's track record.

So I think it was smart to

go animated and in a great

way for people to be

excited and lay out your roadmap.

And that's what he's done.

And that's what he is doing.

And I'm really happy to see

what he's going to do next with it,

because I know he actually

cares about what he puts out.

So we've seen him do that in Marvel,

you know, when he did Marvel properties.

Yeah.

So what do you think?

Where do you think this is going to go?

So I'm interested to see

what he's going to do as far as.

Would chapter one be

entitled Gods and Monsters?

I don't know if I've seen it yet.

How long is this chapter going to be?

How many movies is it going

to have a part of it?

Is it going to be, oh,

Gods and Monsters is going

to go for three TV shows and three movies,

and it's going to culminate in...

one big movie type of deal

before we hit chapter two of my DC plan.

So I don't know.

And I'm excited to see,

I really am because gods

and monsters to me in comic

book or in movies will always sell liquid,

you know, the latest Godzilla's.

This is true.

This is very true.

So we'll see.

I'm excited to see what he's going to do.

I'm excited for Creature

Commandos and people

getting to see a different

side of the comic book world within DC.

I wonder if we're going to

get Teen Titans in this

phase because one of the

Easter eggs shows Starfire impaled.

Yeah, that's true.

So I'm like, there's a reason.

Or at least we get a pre-Teen Titans.

Would be cool.

Yeah.

Like as, you know, Batman tries to,

you know.

We'll see.

Oh.

Bill.

That's a hell yeah.

Hell yeah, dude.

Love that guy.

You're the best.

He really is.

Such a great dude.

And BCP plus Hall of Famer, by the way.

Absolutely.

Well deserved.

Very well deserved.

We were joking.

Well, we were saying on socially distanced,

he's got the... Ooh,

Cersei is going to score

the vision in episode four.

Come on, dude.

We haven't watched episode three yet.

That's literally like queued

up behind me right now on the TV.

But that goes to show he's

our Rick Flagg senior over there.

He's got the look.

He's got the look.

He's got the look.

He's got the look.

As they say over on BC+,

he's got the dad bod

demigod thing going on.

But I'm excited.

And I think James Gunn is

going to do a fantastic job

as the head of DC.

Him and his partner.

I can't remember who it is

off the top of my head.

But I know that.

Peter Safran?

Yes.

Yes.

And I know Jim Lee is still

in charge of their comic book division.

So I know that's safe.

The most perfect hands they

could be in right now.

Because Jim Lee to me is a

god amongst men.

When it comes to comic books.

He's done some of the best

runs I've ever read of any book.

And he just greenlit DC Vertigo again.

So I'm excited that we're

getting Vertigo back in the

comic book world.

And for those who don't know,

the lady who was running DC,

before she stepped down,

her biggest thing was, I hate Vertigo.

I'm shutting it down.

I don't like the content it creates.

So she was done with it.

She shut it down.

Boarded it up, shut it down.

created dc black label which

kind of picked up some of

the titles from vertigo and

because vertigo they

focused more on the adult

side of comic book

storytelling the blood the

gore less superhero type

stuff more storytelling

like with the the last

house or the house by the

sea and the house by the

lake which are great reads

by the way if you're into

horror and suspense and

thriller and just different

type of stuff like that

Vertigo was responsible for

things like John

Constantine back in the day, Preacher,

and titles like that.

The darker side,

the magic side of the DC universe.

Jim Lee is like, I'm in charge.

I'm bringing back DC Vertigo.

And the first title that

came out on Vertigo was the follow-up,

The House by the Sea.

which again is the follow-up

from The House by the Lake,

I think is what it's called,

and great reads.

So I'm happy that DC is in

good hands on both sides of the fence,

and what they're doing

right now is phenomenal work.

Hopefully it stays that way.

That's my hope as well.

I feel like DC,

for the first time in a very long time,

all the way around,

consistently across all of its properties,

is in good hands.

Superman is going to be its

make it or break it.

Oh gosh.

Yeah.

I mean, I want them to succeed.

I want them to succeed because it, it,

it's one of those where they succeed.

It kind of forces everyone

else to step up to like with Marvel,

they're going to step it up.

We just,

the winners will be the fans

because we get better content.

The fans were in,

but they're still going to

complain about it, but it doesn't matter.

We're winning because we're

getting great content by both companies.

Exactly.

So speaking of companies, um,

things that are broken let's

talk about a broken star

show that kidnaps kids and

runs away so we're talking

of course about star wars

this skeleton crew um I

didn't know what to expect

from this but it had the

goonies in space vibe and I

was here for it and

Where to start with this one?

So we knew it was going to

be geared toward kids from

everything that we had seen so far.

It gave the Space Goonies vibes,

but we didn't know how it

was going to get there

because they really did tight lip it,

so to speak.

But how are you feeling

about it right now?

Oh, I actually really enjoyed it.

I'm an Amlin kid growing up.

So ET, you know,

kind of gave me that energy

right off the bat,

especially with the first,

like the teasers and the trailers.

It is very much an eighties

kid adventure vibe type of show.

And I'm here for it.

I love it.

Yeah,

like I really got an ET reference in

episode two.

Exactly.

So I was like, thank you.

Thank you.

And and I actually liked

that this is a little bit

more geared towards kids.

And it's not like it's it's

not like it's for little little kids,

but like kids like ten, eleven.

Kids your son's age.

exactly exactly and I I feel

like it's geared towards

kids kind of like how we

well I look back to how old

I was when I watched the

original trilogy about the

same age like you know it I

feel like it's a it's a

good way to get new kids to

get the kids on board but

yet still fun for the

parents to watch there's

still plenty of content for

the for the parents to

watch but it was nice to have

What was it in the nineties?

We had TGIF.

We had all those fun TV shows on,

on a Friday night because

we weren't old enough to

really go out and do anything.

But we,

but so they provided entertainment

for us on home on the TV.

We had Urkel who.

of all things, made an appearance.

When I seen him, I was like,

he grew up and became a space pirate.

Yeah,

pretty much he is in the Star Wars

universe, y'all.

Steve Urkel is out there.

I was pretty excited to see that.

I was excited to... The pirate.

I mean, he's been a pirate and everything,

but he was in...

Was he in Clone Wars?

He was a part of Hondo's crew,

I remember at one point.

Oh, man.

Are you talking about the

pirate that showed up in Mando?

yes yes yes yes he's hopped

in a couple of crews he has

he's just like he's like oh

this crew sucks let me find

me another one yeah I'm

like bro I think you might

be the problem in all these

crews exactly if you've had

to jump around that much

you are not a very good

space spy research

Exactly.

Exactly.

Well,

what I appreciated was watching this

with little Seth and seeing

him relate to the show because, you know,

we, you know, he's, he's that age.

Is he not?

Yeah, he is.

He is.

So he's very fascinated with

like how the kids are interacting.

Like he's into the story.

Like he can relate to him.

Whereas watching some of the

other star Wars shows,

he likes characters.

Like, you know, he loves Darth Vader.

He loves Anakin.

He associates Ahsoka with mama.

And, and it's,

you know,

but it's the characters and not

necessarily the story that

appeals to him.

And here he's like, Oh,

these kids are like me.

Like, you know, I can, you know, like,

like our, our goodest boy, Neil, you know,

we, we love him.

He's so great.

He really is.

He is.

So for those who don't know,

Neil is played by Robert Timothy Smith.

I think he voices him and he, that kid,

like,

whoever is the actor in the

suit is doing a phenomenal

job with everything.

And, but this,

this kid that Robert Timothy Smith,

who is playing Neil,

like when you see him in real life,

he's almost like a little new himself,

you know?

Yeah.

And I'm like, man,

they did so good with that.

And then of course we got

Jude law playing John, not now would,

which is a weird name to begin with,

but you know,

you can't have star wars

without somebody having a

weird name then you had

kiriana greater playing kb

which is I think she's the

one she's got the uh she's

the speeder bike girl no

that's I thought that was a

fern no or is fern the the

light leader is the main

girl she's the leader

between the two of them

yeah kb is the girl that

has kind of she has a

headset and yeah the uh the

tricky the tricky glasses yeah

yeah I call her I call her

the techie of the group

because I'm just like yeah

she she's she's reliable

she is she's a good girl I

really like her character

in this and then you got

robbie playing whim who is

the like he's very much the

guy who's going to get you

into trouble and he has

done that now every episode

I mean, I like Wynn, though.

He reminds me a lot of my

kiddo in a lot of ways

because my kid's going to

be whatever he wants.

If there's a button that says do not push,

he's going to be the one to push it.

He's the kid that wants the

adventure and wants the...

He's the one that kicks

everything off by checking Leo like,

look what I found doing

this and doing this.

Curiosity does kill the cat,

but at the same time,

he's just such a fun like or

blast you off into outer

space exactly exactly and

so um but just the fact

that he's not afraid to to

to pursue something like to

to say you know I'm going

on an adventure fearless uh

and just he's gonna do what

he's gonna do and so we're

three episodes in I know

you're an episode behind I

am but so far who why who

is your favorite character so far

again for me because of the

personal bias it as does it

well neil obviously is is

like the goodest the

goodest boy like just oh

yeah the goodest boy but if

I had to pick somebody

other than neil for me it's

whim because again he

reminds me so much of my

kid because seth would

totally push the button a

thousand ten percent like

look I would have pushed

the button and I'm forty

Yeah, it's like, you know,

he's he's like the cat that

looks at you defiantly

while knocking the glass

off the table like that.

That is I didn't do it, though.

Yeah.

Or no, it's like, I'm going to do it.

Just that scoot, scoot.

And then the glass falls

over like you're telling him not to.

And that's mine anyway.

I'm going to do it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So that's when reminds me so

much of my own that I'm like, OK.

And you feel for him, though,

because you see where he's at.

Like, he's a lonely child.

Yeah.

And his dad works constantly.

And his dad is kind of

dismisses him a little bit,

like not to be mean.

I think his dad is just so

preoccupied with, with his work,

with his evaluations.

Yeah.

And it's just like, you know, and,

and so you just,

you understand where Wim's

longing for more and for

freedom and where he buries

himself in the stories of the Jedi.

And just, you,

you see the dreamer in him

and you understand why.

Oh yeah.

But who's your favorite?

I'm glad you asked Nick Frost.

This is my favorite.

And I love this robot.

This droid is awesome.

And I think I was talking to

you when I was like,

did you recognize the name

SM thirty three?

And it's me.

And if for those who don't know,

me is Captain Hood's first mate.

And when I caught the reference,

I was like, wow.

Yes.

Awesome.

Love it.

It makes perfect sense.

And I'm so happy they did it.

So I was ecstatic when I

found out SME SM-XXXIII was

the reference to Captain

Hook's best mate.

And I was like,

I love it because every

good pirate ship needs to

have a best mate.

And Nick Frost is killing it as SME.

yeah I have to say I give

disney props and like you

know the the casting for

the you know for across the

board because the droid

actors they've brought in

they always have a great

great droid guys where

there's a voice in them are

playing the actual droid

themselves and for nick

frost who I love so much b and shmi

is perfect because I mean,

he's always like the best mate in movies.

Yes.

So he was the perfect best

mate for a pirate ship

without a captain currently.

mean I they've just been

slaying slaying like the

shows themselves can be hit

or miss but the droid

casting always spot on and

perfect always spot on like

I popped for dave tennant

david tennant I will always

for him always forever

forever forever please

bring him back please bring

yeah we I mean he has to be

back for soca season two

but you know nick frost was

I agree with you perfect

perfect for Smee.

Even the nuances of getting there.

I can envision Nick Frost in

the studio doing the

voiceover in the pirate mode.

Once I realized who it was,

I seen him in there doing

the pirate dance,

doing the little pirate

thing and actually acting

it out as he did the voice.

He's a jolly fellow.

He

yeah I'm ecstatic that it's

nick frost doing it whoever

is casting droids please

please please continue keep

up the good work because

we're happy what's up wendy

thanks for joining us today

on a hello a very special

star sign for us normally

we're doing this at eight

thirty at night and today

It just so happened to work out.

And I like this one.

I think if we do this again,

I'm just going to call it

Saturday morning special.

I like it.

Just like in the cartoon days.

Yeah.

I think that's what we're

going to call this one when

we do a Saturday morning special.

It's very fitting given that

this has given us this

eighties at the time when we had.

Exactly.

Exactly.

It's all we had.

I mean,

I was raised on cartoons and bowls

of cereal.

Facts.

Facts.

And, um,

So let's start jumping into

it a little bit more.

So four kids make a mysterious discover.

The Onnit Cinder is the name

of the ship on their home

planet of At-Atn that leads

them to get lost in a

strange and dangerous galaxy.

So Star Wars lore in this show,

At-Atn is a mysterious

treasure planet that nobody

has ever actually seen or been to.

which I think is cool.

They're giving us a Treasure

Planet reference,

which is also another Disney movie.

Is it called Treasure Planet?

What's that movie called?

It is Treasure Planet, I think.

The cartoon movie?

Yeah.

I think it is Treasure Planet.

It was like Treasure Island, kind of.

Yeah.

That's the vibe I was getting.

I can see the characters

from... I see the faces.

I just can't remember if

that's the right name for the movie.

I'm gonna look now I have to

look it up because it's

gonna bother me I'm gonna

but um yes it is treasure

planet perfect I I nailed

it I knew what I was

talking about all along but

um so episode one we see

the kids you know they're

in school it's boring we

notice you know of course

they're getting ready to take their

What I can guess is like a

career assessment test

determines their futures at

such a young age, too,

which is it makes sense for

this hidden planet that at

a very young age,

these kids would be doing a

test like this to determine, you know,

the role in society, basically.

But of course, you know,

kids will be kids and teens

will be teens.

And you get that the teenage ain't that.

you know, I want to adventure, you know,

cause that's what kids want

is adventure and fun.

And that's what we get.

So to put it in perspective,

skeleton crew takes place

in the same timeframe as Mandalorian.

Yes.

So that way, cause I'm,

so when we think about it,

it's before the race series.

Yes.

So I just wanted to make

that known and clear in

case anybody was wondering.

And so episode one, like I was saying,

they're doing this test to

determine their futures.

And I think it was the end

of episode one or during episode two.

I think it was right at the

end of episode one is when

they blast off.

Yes.

In the Onyx Cinder and clear

the planet's barrier,

which the planet is hidden by a barrier.

and um off on the adventure

they go and then they they

of course I think was it I

think it was in the

beginning of episode two is

when they when shmi finally

wakes up and scares the

shit out of the kids and of

course they find themselves

getting in trouble on

what's the name of the

planet uh port borgo yes is

where they end up going

because that's what

uh, me knows he's like, Hey,

it's a pirate planet, a pirate port,

but somebody may have heard

of your planet.

And maybe we can start there,

which of course leads to

them getting thrown in a brig meeting Jod,

who is played by Jude law.

And, um, they think he is a Jedi.

We still don't really know

if he is a Jedi or not.

Um,

Which we do know,

or I think he is the pirate who is being.

Who got mutinied.

Yeah.

At the very beginning of the

show when it opened up.

So, I mean, it looks very familiar,

but the mask was really

cool that he was wearing.

Like that was a dope mask.

And I hope Disney does one.

Oh, that'd be cool.

I'm sure if Disney doesn't do it,

someone will three D print one.

I'm sure out there, but the visit,

but yeah, I'm,

what do you think about this planet?

I'm super intrigued.

Cause again, yes.

Yeah.

I'm very intrigued because

it's a new planet and it's

supposedly hidden by the

empire away from everything.

well the crazy part it's

almost like for them oh

what you doing evie it's

like you're talking about

cute like space creatures

and kids and I have to be

part of the cuteness I have

to be part of it that's

evie that's my daughters oh

she wanted to make an

appearance she did and

she's a she's a handful her

and her brother

Her and Toby don't get along.

Oh, no.

They'll chase each other.

They don't really hurt each other,

but they definitely just don't get along.

But for me, it's almost like the planet,

like Order Sixty-Six never happened.

And the events of the

original trilogy never

happened because I was, you know.

They do feel like they're locked away.

Yes.

Very outside of it.

Yes, they're a part of the Empire still.

But they seem cut off from

the outside world of the

greater dangers happening

within the Empire.

And looking at what they're

doing with the great work,

the way they kept referencing that,

that's a High Republic reference.

Because that was Lena's the

head of the council for the council,

but the Senate for High Republic.

And I was like,

I wasn't going to bring that

up because you're going to

see that in episode three.

And I know you hadn't

watched episode three yet.

But yes, it is a High Republic reference.

Okay, so I'm right.

So this planet could be very

well tucked away since the Old Republic.

That's what I'm like.

So they don't have any clue

about anything that's happened then.

Yeah,

because even the little storyboard

he's reading,

somebody went and translated

all of the text online.

You saw that too.

And I'm like,

kudos to whoever did that

because it's a lot of work.

But it's all stories of Jedi

pre-Skywalker.

Yeah, High Republic Jedi.

yeah so that's interesting

it's fascinating I'm

waiting we'll have to see

how the story plays out but

I don't want to like dig

too much into it because

it's still ongoing and I

don't want to give a whole

lot away because I know

people are watching it and

I kind of wanted to present

it as a hey we're watching

it it's cool everybody

should be watching it

because you're going to get

cool comic book references

as well and by that I mean

crimson jack I know you

haven't seen the episode yet

But Crimson Jack is actually

from the original Marvel

Star Wars comic from

nineteen seventy seven.

Yes.

And he was Han Solo's arch nemesis.

He actually robbed Han Solo of his reward.

From the Rebel Alliance.

So the money that he was.

Going to pay Jabba the Hutt.

Ah he's the one.

That's right.

He's the one that stole it.

That's why he got frozen in carbonite.

Yes.

However Han does get him back.

Han is the dirtiest scoundrel.

In the empire.

So Han does get him back.

But that's the reason why he

got frozen in carbonite.

That's right.

I thought that was the

coolest reference ever that

you're going to get in Star Wars lore.

To me,

it's really cool that they made a

reference to Crimson Jack.

What I'm loving about the

show is the references to the eras.

We're talking about how this

feels like Space Goonies and E.T.

and Amblin era and yet the

references they're pulling

are from Star Wars content

around that time and I love that.

Was it just me or did you

pop for the hologram?

Yes.

She's canon now, y'all.

yep wait till you watch

episode three and a b-win

battle droid waits up

asking did we win oh my god

yes it was the coolest

thing ever because I was

laughing my ass off because

as he's like did we win and

then he fell apart

I was like, that's awesome.

Yeah,

Brandon got mad at me because he's like,

well, you watch.

I was like, well,

because we're going to talk about him.

And he's just like, well,

I wanted to watch.

No, no,

you have to wait for the short game.

I'm like,

I am supposed to watch the Star

Wars content.

You got to keep up.

That's my thing.

Like one of my other

favorite details that shows

up is a T-sixty-five from Blue Squadron.

And wait.

Yes.

So it was, it is the newest ones.

That's about to say that the new, yeah,

that,

and that's in the third episode it

comes in.

Cause I don't remember seeing it.

Yeah.

It's the third squadron T-sixty-five,

which is really cool to see.

Cause we got blue squadron.

We know red squadron very well.

We've seen some references

to blue squadron here and there,

but they actually made a

full up like blue squadron landed.

Yeah.

It was, it was dope as hell.

And I, you know,

I know we mentioned Jude

Law and kind of a little bit,

but I just have to give

props to Disney for getting

Jude Law because, you know,

I know a lot of people,

he's been fairly quiet-ish lately,

but really like looking back,

like when we were growing up,

like he was everywhere.

Everywhere.

He was everywhere.

And I don't want to say I'm a Jude Law fan,

but I really... He's got

the roguish charm.

He does.

For this.

He really does.

And I've enjoyed...

so far watching him in this

because like it was

sporadic like hey let's

grab jude law for star wars

like where does that come

from you know like who

thought of that like oh

this guy's gonna be perfect for this

So he's killing it, too.

He's doing so good.

He is.

I mean,

even just his moment when he makes

his appearance in the jail cell,

just that first look at him

and reveal like straight up.

I'm like, hey, Jula, like you're back.

You're back, bro.

Welcome back.

Definitely a welcome back moment.

And he's killing it.

I'm enjoying him very much.

And his his wardrobe is a

whole Lando thing.

lando space pirate vibe yeah

it's really cool I love it

we won't kill it too much

though no no and actually

that's where we're gonna

close it out because I

don't want to give too much

away okay so you know me I

get super excited you gotta

bring me in and be like I

know you do slow me down um

but let's hit the final

shots and thought actually

You got to wait.

I'll be right.

Absolute pleasure.

And it's always fun to chat

nerd things with you.

Cause it's just, you, you know,

you have so much knowledge and again,

keep it up with the shorts.

Cause they're great.

And everybody come in,

support USDN because

obviously fantastic podcast.

And Jeff's a great guy.

I appreciate it.

You're churching me up right now.

I'm just saying facts.

I'm just saying facts.

Thank you.

That's all I'm doing.

So, of course, as Jeff mentioned earlier,

I am Amanda Rivas from the Pop Break.

I am the co-host of our

flagship podcast on the network.

And this is a socially distanced podcast,

along with the aforementioned Bill Botkin,

where every week we review topics.

different pop culture topics

that happen uh we actually

covered creature commandos

in our latest episode we

are going to be torturing

bill this coming week with

hot frosty on netflix

that'll be our our episode

uh this coming this coming

for that and I was like

that's actually kind of

interesting yeah no but it

looks really interesting

We have thoughts.

I have thoughts.

And I will spare Bill and

leave that episode of the

podcast because I'm sure

he's got loads of thoughts on it.

Oh, I'm sure he does.

If you find him without one,

something's wrong.

Exactly.

Exactly.

So, I mean, he survived Bridgerton,

so he should be fine without Frosty.

I tried.

I tried.

I made it through an episode

and I was like, okay, never,

ever again will I do that to myself.

That is punishment.

Kudos to all you ladies out

there watching Bridgerton.

The new season's been approved.

It's coming.

Don't know when, but I know it's coming.

There you go.

There you go.

And they've got some new

cast coming to join them as well.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's good.

It should be exciting.

I know my sister's waiting for the day.

So, but yes, so socially distance again,

we, we,

you can catch us on all streaming

platforms every Thursday.

And I am also on our anime

pop podcast that drops monthly.

Our last episode,

we were covering Dan to Dan,

which is fantastic.

Fantastic.

It is.

The last episode left me a little empty.

but it was a cool story they

told in that episode yeah

yeah and it's only going to

get better and I think I

figure it's where we're at

and down to down without

spoiling too much is

exactly where I called that

I think we were going to

end the first season so

season season two though is

expected summer twenty

twenty five so probably

whenever I'm going to say

probably well that's

actually pretty quick yeah

so I'm still waiting on

chainsaw man season two

I know.

Well,

we're getting the movie and I'm

hearing summer, summer as well.

So I think it's August, July.

So this arc,

they're going to turn into a

movie before they go into

an actual second season of it.

I'm fine with that because

they do in Demon Slayer,

I think the same way.

demon slayer three we're

getting three movies so

hopefully probably next

week I think with jump

festa we might have some

dates that would be cool

kind of keeping an eye out

on that but anyway um yeah

we we and when chainsaw man

drops we're definitely

going to cover it and

you'll have to join us oh

absolutely I like my

daughter has the entire

collection of chainsaw man

and I'm like I'm in

like yeah the moment they

said hey we're making an

anime and I watched it I

was like all right yeah man

same goes for like dan to

dan's been yeah chainsaw

man has probably I love the

intros and outros to them

because they did famous

gangster movies yes as

their intros and outros and

it was phenomenal I love

how they changed it up

every single episode

Yes, so good.

And if y'all ever get the

chance to meet Ryan Colt Levy in person,

he is phenomenal as just a

great person because as Chainsaw Man,

Denji's English dub actor, he's great.

So he was, I was like, anything on Reeves?

no it's this color maybe um

but everything is saying at

least right now summer but

we'll see for for but at

least but at least down to

down they're saying

definitely summer that's

awesome because it has been

really really good it's

fantastic I don't you know

me I don't watch a whole

lot of anime so if I'm

actually sitting down and

watching an anime you know

it's really damn good

yeah and speaking of our

well we were also we also

covered bleach uh thousand

year blood war current

season three uh and of

course uh from the dfp and

we had kelvin on on the

episode you know and you

know kelvin if he he and

the eat the cake guys that

y'all have on the network

shout out to them because

they're they're they're

doing a job yeah I I tune

in when I can and very much

a fan of their podcast as

well so they're

recommending it you know

we're we're I'm always

happy to hear literally like anything

kelvin and willie and those

guys over at etca recommend

I'm usually I'm like all

right I'll give it a watch

and I usually end up being

stuck I'm like okay I'm in

well I appreciate them too

because it's nice to hear

when other really credible

podcasts um really really

they recommend a lot of

work they do they do so the

whole network as a whole this year

Going into twenty twenty five,

there's going to be a couple of knits ups,

so to speak.

But it's still going to be I

think twenty twenty five

will be even bigger than

twenty twenty four.

Yeah.

So so definitely shout out

to you guys on the DFPN, too.

So, of course,

we're looking forward to

having more of y'all on

Anime Pop as well.

Absolutely.

We love coming over and

working with y'all and vice

versa as well.

I've had Bill on Ben.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Randy is probably coming in the future.

I know I'm with him as well.

Good.

Randy, he hit me up not that long ago.

It was like, Hey, I got a thing.

I'm like, dude, just send it to me.

Let's do it.

Oh, that's all you gotta do.

That's all you gotta do for media.

Yeah, they are.

I do.

I've,

I've listened to the last few

episodes and they've been really great.

So I'm excited to do that.

I have an episode of a

superhero cinephiles.

coming out in january I

think january twentieth or

twenty first and that's a a

fun show to to to do I'm

probably gonna go back on

and do ninja turtles with

him oh nice so cover the uh

the michael bay

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

and just destroy it.

Because it was Michael Bay

and he ruined Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles.

And Transformers.

And Transformers, yes.

And Transformers.

But yeah,

our new episode of Anime Pop will

drop on Monday and we do an

anime year in review look

back over the favorites we

covered over the year.

And also our anime awards as well.

So yeah,

so that's going to be dropping on

Monday with my co-host, Josh Sarnecki.

And we are mapping out

twenty twenty five and it's

going to be a busy.

I'm excited to see what you

are going to do.

Yeah.

So again,

I've already seen twenty twenty

five looks really good for anime.

It does.

And I'm like already in my back of my head,

you know, I'm like, oh,

I want to watch that one and that one.

And.

April in particular looks

like it's going to be an

insane month for anime.

So lots to cover on that.

But of course,

you can find both podcasts

on all streaming platforms.

Socially Distanced does have

its own stream,

whereas Anime Pop is part

of the PopRick network on

all streaming platforms.

Of course,

you can follow me at a

Mandalorian on Instagram and threads.

And of course the short King

and I have our couples

cosplay as mentioned

earlier for brand DeLorean.

That's at brand DeLorean on Instagram.

Pictures are coming up with our two reels.

I should say,

cause we had a lot of

pictures reels for are coming up.

I've been watching those

like little mini movies.

Yeah, it's been a lot of fun making those.

I'm baby stepping.

Keep them coming.

Baby stepping.

So really enjoyed our time

at NostalgiaCon with our

two new cosplays and, of course,

our Naruto returning cosplays.

The Naruto is really cool.

Thank you.

I made my chadori.

That was my way.

Yeah.

So we had a great time doing

that particular con.

We do have another con in

January that's coming up as

well that we'll be attending.

So pictures will be coming

up for that when we attend.

And then, of course,

I am also at Reznor's Chick

on X and Blue Sky as well.

And now is a perfect time to

say they have a new album coming out.

Yes.

They're doing the whole

entire album to one of the

upcoming video games this

year or for twenty twenty five.

Yeah.

So Trent Reznor is a busy,

busy man right now.

And I enjoy seeing that.

Yeah.

New music from Nine Inch

Nails is always a good, good thing.

Yes, he is the sound.

He has written the

soundtrack for my life on many,

many occasions.

So love Trent Reznor.

Always will.

Hence why he stays in the

handle of my name as much as possible.

So my little homage to him.

But of course,

please follow The Pop Break

as well on all social media platforms,

most importantly.

And of course,

I think we were spelt out

the I think it's

thepopbreak.com on YouTube

because someone took our domain.

Yeah, it happens.

I noticed.

But

Yeah, but, you know,

that's a little bit about me.

But, I mean,

you guys have got some great

stuff cooking on your network.

Thank you again for having me.

Absolutely.

Amanda,

you are welcome back anytime as one

of my council members.

And so coming up from USDN,

this will be the last live

show for the year.

You will get this show will

drop during Christmas break.

Um,

Cobra Kai season six part two will drop

next week with Ben.

And so I spaced it out to

where I get to drop shows

during the holiday without

having to go live,

which is always great to do.

I planned ahead this year

and had it figured out.

Yay.

I will still drop two more

weeks of there's two more

weeks of twenty twenty four,

which is crazy.

This year went by super fast.

So you'll get two more

episodes of me doing comic

book day drops.

And then.

I don't know what I'll be

back with in January,

but I'll probably do a best

of twenty twenty four or

twenty twenty four year in

review like I did last year.

And then see what the world takes us.

I know I'll do the finales

of Creature Commandos of

Skeleton Crew will be in there,

but it's already looking to

be a busy twenty twenty five.

I got some big things coming

in twenty twenty five as well.

Um,

of course you can find USDN on all

social media platforms.

So for blue sky is USD and chairman.

Cause that is definitely

more about me and some of

the work that I'm doing,

such as getting to do the

comic book reviews for, for people,

which is really cool that

I'm being asked to do that.

Um,

but you can still follow me over there

if your own blue sky,

I highly recommend that platform.

It is a really cool platform

to showcase yourself and what you do.

Um,

That's it for me.

Amanda, anything else from you?

If not, we'll close it out.

Other than just wanted to

tell everybody here, thanks for tuning in,

hanging out with us.

And of course,

just wishing everybody a

happy holidays and to you too,

my dear friend.

Again, thank you for- Thank you.

Thank you.

I appreciate it.

Happy holidays to y'all.

Can't wait to see what

little man gets for Christmas this year.

As always,

let's big thank you to DFPN for

giving me a platform to

give you this podcast on.

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So on behalf of myself,

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and the Pop Break as well,

since they loan me all

their people from time to time,

I just want to say thank

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