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Her story inspires listeners to face adversities with courage, turning setbacks into stepping stones toward self-awareness and fulfillment. I can’t wait for you to listen!

“Entitlement really is coming from a place of lack.” – Neeta Bhushan

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Neeta Bhusban:

That was the beginning of saying yes to new things, and because I was so great at building community, and and honestly, I needed a community Yeah. That I could pour into. I started, what we would call now a female mastermind. And it was professional women in Chicago, and it was we were we would take a because I was very much in my personal growth journey and taking all these different books, and and so and that's what it became, and we would meet monthly. The group grew to over a 150 women in Chicago in my beautiful tiny little living room, and I started saying yes to more things that were completely outside my realm.

Kate Northrup:

Hello. Today, I have my friend, doctor Neeta Bhushan, on Plenty, and she wrote this book, That Sucked, Now What? She is an incredible coach, an investor. She is a light in the world. And today, we talk about resiliency, how to not get stuck in your suck, the difference between privilege and entitlement.

Kate Northrup:

Her incredible story of becoming an investor, leaving, I I'm not even gonna get into it. Her story is amazing, and you must listen. So enjoy the episode if you want to work on your resiliency. Welcome to Plenti. I'm your host, Kate Northrup.

Kate Northrup:

And together, we are going on a journey to help you have an incredible relationship with money, time, and energy, and to have abundance on every possible level. Every week, we're gonna dive in with experts and insights to help you unlock a life of plenty. Let's go fill our cups.

Neeta Bhusban:

Please note that the opinions and perspectives of the guests on the Plenty podcast are not necessarily reflective of the opinions and perspectives of Kate Northrop or anyone who works within the Kate Northrop brand.

Kate Northrup:

Hi, Nita. Hi. Thanks for coming on Plenty.

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh my god. I'm excited.

Kate Northrup:

I'm so happy to have you here. Really loved your book. Yeah. So, you know, I just know you from Instagram, and then we met that one time

Neeta Bhusban:

when I came And we had so much fun.

Kate Northrup:

To your work home, which inspired our work apartment, which is so cool.

Neeta Bhusban:

I'm so impressed.

Kate Northrup:

Well, when I rolled up at for your broadcast, The Brave Table, I was like, oh, so I guess I'm at their house. And then I walked in, and I was like, they clearly do not live here. And when you're Or is

Neeta Bhusban:

your kids stuff here? Well, yeah.

Kate Northrup:

I mean, this is not the house of people with 2 small children and, like, sets set up everywhere. And you were like, yeah. This is our content house.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah.

Kate Northrup:

And then we and that separation was so brilliant. So, anyway, thank you because it is in part thanks to you that this exists.

Neeta Bhusban:

You are so welcome, and I I love it. I feel so at home here.

Kate Northrup:

I'm so glad. So I started reading your book and for audio listeners, it's called That Sucked. Now What? And

Neeta Bhusban:

I had

Kate Northrup:

no idea that you had such an intense period of time Oh, yeah. From what? Like, the age of 14 to 25? I mean, I'm sure there are many intense times in your life But yeah. We're getting to know each other.

Kate Northrup:

But would you because some people who write a book called That Sucked, Now What? It's more like theoretical. Right. Like, oh, I stubbed my toe or, like, oh, I got fired or which is all Right. We I do get to decide what impacts people in an intense way.

Kate Northrup:

Your story is really intense.

Neeta Bhusban:

Mhmm.

Kate Northrup:

And I'm wondering if you would be willing to share with our listeners Wow. What that period of time included for you. You can just do bullet style Bullet

Neeta Bhusban:

bullet points.

Kate Northrup:

Or you can get into it, whatever you feel like today.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah. Wow. So you're right about the the amount of time. I think it was really half of my life Yeah. To be honest.

Neeta Bhusban:

I mean, it's wild to think now, you know, at 41 Oh. That I Radiant. Well I

Kate Northrup:

would like to say.

Neeta Bhusban:

Thank you. Are you

Kate Northrup:

a 1983 baby too? 282. 82. Okay. 82.

Neeta Bhusban:

We're just letting it all out.

Kate Northrup:

I'm an 83. Mike's an 82.

Neeta Bhusban:

Well, it's funny. When I was I was I was in an Uber, and the Uber driver, he would not let up on asking how old I was.

Kate Northrup:

Why? I was like I was like, well, you don't you don't ask that to a woman. Don't you know?

Neeta Bhusban:

I was just coming back from Europe, you know, just the other day. And I'm like, yeah. You know what? I'm actually I'm owning it all. I'm owning it all.

Neeta Bhusban:

And, you know, so he was like, well, you look you look like you're in your twenties. I'm like, thank you. That's the Asian genes.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. They're strong.

Neeta Bhusban:

They're strong?

Kate Northrup:

The collagen is a bit

Neeta Bhusban:

basic. Collagen's strong.

Kate Northrup:

We'll get to 1st, we're gonna start with the intense beginning of your life, and then we're gonna move on to skin care.

Neeta Bhusban:

Skin care. Yes. So if you're watching this, I mean, yeah, looking at me now, I don't think you could ever think that I went through such a super, super dark, painful, awful, crazy, excruciating time growing up. And, you know, I think rightfully so, you say about 14, but I feel like it it kind of started when I was 10, when my mom was diagnosed with, you know, breast cancer. And so I remember having chickenpox.

Neeta Bhusban:

My great grandmother, bless her soul, she was on duty to take care of me. And nobody told me that, like, my mom was just going to the hospital. They took everyone with, and my great grandmother was, you know, she was the one watching me, and I had chicken pox. So, you know, shout out to calamine lotion back in the day. The pink bottle will forever be etched in my mind.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

But I remember, you know, with all of my welts, and I'm, like, just itching, and no one told me that Wow. The whole family was just gonna be, you know, so so the memory in my mind was, okay. I'm waking up. I have all these welts, and I'm itching like crazy. And my great grandmother who does not speak any English, Filipino, she's like, Anak, you put this on all of those things, and she didn't wanna touch me.

Neeta Bhusban:

So I was like, so you would not itch. And I was like, oh, okay. But so that day, I made a meeting in my head that, okay, I have to take care of myself. And so that would be the beginning of this journey of growing up really fast. And so and, yes, you know, later, they did tell me my mom had breast cancer, and this was this was a period of about 6 years in and out of hospital settings.

Neeta Bhusban:

You know, she transitioned when I was 16, and then 17, at 17, a year later. Literally, it was probably it was it was about a year to the date after my mom transitioned. My brother, DJ, he had an asthma attack at school, and so he transitioned. And now that I know a lot about energetics and spirits and relationships, he was the one closest to my mom. Mhmm.

Neeta Bhusban:

So, you know, that has been cathartic to kind of know, obviously, everything I know now about that. But during that time, it was devastating Of

Kate Northrup:

course.

Neeta Bhusban:

To my dad who is this Punjabi Indian strict, dad who didn't know anything about emotional intelligence. I mean, we were really in survival mode for a lot of that time. And I think even to our extended family, culturally, there's no place for a traditional Indian man to fit in as, like, a widow. So it just was very strange in all the dynamics, and I was the oldest woman of the house. So that meant a lot of responsibilities.

Neeta Bhusban:

And for those of you who are oldest daughter syndrome, you know, you're already trying to do all of the things. And so that just led me on this trajectory, which then 2 years later, my dad would be diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer. And so, you know, literally in the span of those 3 really big years, 4 really big years, by 18, I was an orphan. And, you know, really the caretaker of my youngest brother, yeah, who is 14 at the time. So, you know, there's a there's a chapter in my book called, you know, the chip on your shoulder, and that was really what I had in my late teens.

Neeta Bhusban:

I was fierce and ferocious, and I'm like, no one's gonna pity us. And that was kind of what I was charging into my twenties with just because I I did have a hall pass, if you think about it. Forever. Forever. Oh, she's been through all of this.

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh, okay. Sure. You know? And and I just didn't. I was willing to then overcompensate.

Kate Northrup:

And how did you what did overcompensation look like for you?

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh, gosh. Well, I was constantly the one. It was the overachievement, The okay. I'll I'll I'll volunteer after class school. I mean, even in all of the friends groups, I was the one organizing.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I think a lot of it looking back was it was so painful. I did not wanna go to the depths of those places because who would? Yeah. And, yeah, I did a really, really good job at it until I couldn't. And At the coping.

Kate Northrup:

Oh, the coping.

Neeta Bhusban:

The coping, the distraction. The overcompensation. Yeah. The overcompensation, the channeling. I mean, yes, in many ways, some people would say, but Nita, you know, you you became a cosmetic dentist.

Neeta Bhusban:

You had this amazing lavish life. You weren't even 30. You had your practice. It was over 7 figures, all of these things. That was great to the outside world.

Neeta Bhusban:

I even found love, but I did overcompensate even in relationship. And that I think that was the biggest compensation because I was so willing to sacrifice my self worth for love, for a creation, or this possibility of a creation of a new family.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. Yeah. And to, like, loop up that part, which, of course, you tell the whole story in the book, but

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh, yes. The beginning of Yeah.

Kate Northrup:

And I'm, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna leave it there for people to go read the book because it is so powerful to read about resilience from somebody who is such a walking testament to what you call the bounce factor. And I'm curious, like, because you are such a luminous human. You are so full of life. You are like this embodiment of joy. I mean, I know we don't know each other that well, but just it it really is palpable.

Kate Northrup:

It really is palpable from your podcast to, you know, your online presence and then in person, and we know so many people in common. And so, you know, word on the

Neeta Bhusban:

street. Word on the street.

Kate Northrup:

Who you are in person. It's it's it's incredible. And, again, when I started your book, I never would have had I was just like, what? I can't believe you've been through those things. And so I'm curious.

Kate Northrup:

Do you think that their the ability to have the bounce factor, as you call it, these different aspects of resilience, Do you think that we are born with that? Do you think you just came in more resilient than others? Like, because there are many people who have been through far less than you have who are not striving. Yeah. Why?

Neeta Bhusban:

Yes. The question of the day.

Kate Northrup:

That is the question. The question

Neeta Bhusban:

of the hour. I mean, the question that gets me yeah. I I it's literally, I think, the question that is still up for grabs in, I think, every household, whether you're a mom and you're like, how do we teach resilience in kids? My husband and I, we are just talking about that because, spoiler alert, I did find love again, and I am a mama of 2. And it's The story

Kate Northrup:

the end this it has a happy ending.

Neeta Bhusban:

It does have a happy ending Yeah. For those watching.

Kate Northrup:

It does happy middle, and I'm sure a happy ending as well.

Neeta Bhusban:

Happy middle, happy middle. And I think that it's so can it be taught? Yes. It can. Are certain people more predisposed to resiliency?

Neeta Bhusban:

I think now the research has shown, you know, with the studies done with epigenetics, if we wanna get into science

Kate Northrup:

I do always.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yes. Well, I mean, you know, they've done tons of studies that those who have survived, you know, the holocaust or even the Rwandan genocide, if you take some of their biomarkers, they will have these resilient proteins in their DNA. And, if you come across Mark Wolland's work, who I forget the name of the book What's his last name? Mark Wolland. Doctor Mark Wolland, he start it didn't it didn't start with you.

Kate Northrup:

Okay.

Neeta Bhusban:

And he talks about how, you know, they've done the study in rats and

Kate Northrup:

Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

Just the generations of our trauma and our lineage, it makes you more predisposed to certain stress factors, which, okay, one can then argue and say, well, you know, if you've had this in your lineage, maybe you are more prone to resilient times in your life. And but, you know, the the the verdict is still out because also your environment, which we talk about in the bounce factor. So the first the first aspect of this is, well, are you okay with looking at your past and really forgiving your past in a way? So often, we are we get stuck in our suck. We get stuck in our past circumstances.

Kate Northrup:

Don't get stuck in your suck.

Neeta Bhusban:

I mean, come on. That's the that

Kate Northrup:

that that should be the title of the episode.

Neeta Bhusban:

Let's not get stuck in the sock. The video

Kate Northrup:

probably will be.

Neeta Bhusban:

You're welcome. You're welcome. But I think so often, that is the big plight for a lot of us. Right? We have a breakup.

Neeta Bhusban:

We have a, we get fired. We don't get picked Yeah. For the team. We get betrayed. You get trolled or bullied online, etcetera.

Neeta Bhusban:

It keeps on going and going, and then it really stops us in our tracks. And that's for a lot of people. And we and and that's probably why we do the work that we do to help people get unstuck and move forward. So if you have this kind of group that is stuck in their sock, well, what are the things that we could do to help navigate that? Well, the first thing is is, okay, maybe you don't wanna look back at your past, but can you forgive some of the things that you couldn't control?

Neeta Bhusban:

And, you know, I talk about this, especially, you know, in the second part

Kate Northrup:

of the

Neeta Bhusban:

book around, yes, making peace with your past. And, you know, for me, it looked like a lot of different healing modalities. And if you're just stumbling across this video or, you know, this podcast and you're like, oh, I don't even know where to start. Well, just look at even some of the patterns of how you even make your daily decisions in your life. Are you one to ruminate over thoughts?

Neeta Bhusban:

Are you one to just, you know, beat yourself up? Would that decrease your likelihood of being resilient and say, okay, I'm gonna start this thing up again? Are you more resistant to, you know, failure if you're gonna start a project and, oh, it's not gonna work? Are you going to say, alright. I'm gonna just get back up again or or peg yourself as, oh, man.

Neeta Bhusban:

I'm never I'm just not cut out for this or I'm never gonna find love again. And there was a time where I thought that too. Never gonna find love again. I don't think I'm gonna have children. I don't think that's for me.

Neeta Bhusban:

I'm not worthy of it. And then it gets back into, you know, the work that you talk about. Are am I enough?

Kate Northrup:

Am

Neeta Bhusban:

I worth it? Yeah. Am I worthy? So we've gotta do all of that excavation work in either our upbringing or in the past things that didn't really work out. So that's the first part.

Neeta Bhusban:

But then the second part in what researchers really talk about is this idea of your environment. And this is the idea and the hot topic of epigenetics which is, well, can you actually change your environment? If we look back at, you know, Carol Dweck's work, you know, the the the I think she's the Stanford, professor who really talks about mindset. And, well, 2 twins could have gone through the same hardship. 1 selected a growth mindset and another, well, they were stuck in their circumstance.

Neeta Bhusban:

Right. And so and were they having maybe a different environment? Well, one was grew up somewhere else and another grew up somewhere else. One had more of a supportive environment, perhaps. Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

And one maybe didn't. They had more of a more hardships, more struggle, or not the right community of support. Right? And that's the biggest thing. It is too big.

Neeta Bhusban:

Or off.

Kate Northrup:

And what they say They. You know? The folks.

Neeta Bhusban:

The folks. The smart folks.

Kate Northrup:

But what I've been reading about is how, actually, our environment will always beat out our will

Neeta Bhusban:

Mhmm.

Kate Northrup:

In terms of our our our desire. Like, we might want, for example, to get sober. But if we're hanging out with all drinkers, it literally like, it's nearly impossible to overcome your environment. But flipped the other way, it becomes inevitable to have what you want when you change your environment. And I'm curious for you as you were shifting things after you like, well, I just really wanna know a little bit more actually just from my from my I'm just curious.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. And it'll answer the question probably. Like, what happened when you decided to sell your really successful cosmetic dentistry practice? And then how did that transition happen into going into coaching? Because those are really different.

Kate Northrup:

Oh, well, transformation is transformation. Desiree. However True. However, like, I would imagine the environment and the people you would be hanging out with as a dentist are possibly really different than the people you hang out with now. So different.

Kate Northrup:

And, like, we tell I just wanna know that story.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah. So and this is this is, I think, probably looking back at my weirdly unconventional path, never ever ever in a 1000000 years would I ever think, oh, yes, coaching. Yeah. You know, going into dental school and and and taking all the tests to get in and being one of whatever the top students and all of those things.

Kate Northrup:

But there's a lot of, you know, people who do intensive training like that for years years years and all the costs. Like, it cannot be an easy thing to just be like, I'm no longer going to use the education that I spent years of my life and 100 of 1,000 of dollars. Yeah. It's a big deal. I know you know.

Neeta Bhusban:

Was was my family, PO'd? Did they ask, are you in a cult? What are you doing? And it well, so it it's interesting because as I said yes

Kate Northrup:

Are you in a cult?

Neeta Bhusban:

That that was that was the the weirdest one. Are you in a cult? So as I started saying yes to new possibilities, to new opportunities, to and I think I talk about this also, the 3rd part of the book called, you know, this is in in flying forward and I have a 5 step process for it. But first, we're we're falling. Right?

Neeta Bhusban:

We have some sort of fall, a breakup, a resentment, betrayal, something happens that really knocks us off of our feet. A diagnosis, in my case, it was a divorce. It was a earth shattering divorce and that was really the impetus for me to really look at everything. And and that really had me literally wake up and say, I can no longer hide all of these feelings and emotions that I've been trying to keep the stoic face for over a decade and just to try to keep the peace. And it was so chaotic.

Neeta Bhusban:

Hi. The subtitle of my book is how to embrace the joy and chaos and find magic in the mess. And so when my life was so chaotic and I thought I could just piece everything together as a, you know, recovering perfectionist and cosmetic dentist because everything needed to be perfect by the millimeter.

Kate Northrup:

So good. It just Your teeth are amazing. Thank you.

Neeta Bhusban:

That's cute. But it's it's so wild because the things we think we can control Yeah. It just bursts and blows up in your face. And you're, like, you're you're, like, alright. I have to face this.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I remember even trying to hide just the messiness and the chaos of my divorce to my team because at that point, I was not a very confident business owner. I wasn't. I was living in fear. I was in my perfectionist mode. I was afraid of what people would think of divorce because not only that, I had a lot of other things that I was hiding underneath my mattresses and my rugs of the amount of loss and grief that was really unprocessed.

Neeta Bhusban:

And so it blew up in my face to say, okay. You're gonna work on this now. You're not only gonna work on this now, but it's also going to be during the most tumultuous bigness of a Right. Separation in a, you know, toxic relationship. But you're gonna find yourself, and you're gonna find yourself because that's where, you know, as scientists like to call that, post traumatic growth.

Neeta Bhusban:

And it was it was almost like the pain had to get so bad where you are igniting. So you are you do have a choice. Do you go back to the same, you know, ring around and the same community that you've always been going to? Or, you know, maybe there's some sort of fire, there's an ignition, there's a flame that's like, alright. Hey, there's a spark that's like, hey, you you can go this way.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah. Something that you've never ever done before in a 1000000 years. And for me, that was, you know, leave the marriage, leave the community that I was with, leave all of the accolades and everything else, and actually say 3 words. And those 3 words were I need help. And now for someone who is touted on pride and ego and, you know, I love you medicine, and I love you all my doctor, dentist, friends, there's a lot of ego in those professions.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I I was in that. I was in that. And I was a a young super successful in that time, and I needed to ask a different question. And so that was really the beginning of my walk with awe and curiosity and just, you know, this is stage 3 of your your flying forward of alright. It's a combination of the bounce factor because you're also recognizing that your current environment is probably not gonna support whatever this new life that you're starting to build.

Neeta Bhusban:

I knew that I had to walk away from all that toxicity. And what I knew at my core at 16 years old, having people coming over my house, praying for my my dad, my brother, doing these prayer groups. And I grew up very, you know, my my dad was very spiritual, but I was also, you know, Catholic thanks to my mom. And Wow. Yes.

Neeta Bhusban:

That's amazing. Yes. But we had so many different prayer groups coming in, especially during that time. But I just remember being the one always as a community builder even from my teenage years. So I knew that even in this era and season of my life where I was I didn't even know what depression was, but I was all of those things because I'm like, I can't do this alone.

Neeta Bhusban:

I can, but I have no choice. I have to tell everybody what I'm actually going through. So then I said yes to all the therapists, all the all the chants that my dad used to do for 2 or 3 hours a day because he was a devout meditator and he would chant the Hindu chants and we would go to the girdwaras growing up and all of the different houses of worship. Mhmm. I started going through all of the things and started saying yes to every single thing.

Neeta Bhusban:

It was a year of full yes. And improv was the biggest probably blessing in my life. Improv. Yeah. Im Amazing.

Neeta Bhusban:

Improv. Because I was so deathly afraid of public speaking. I was so deathly afraid to share with my team that I was going through this madness of I don't know what it is. I don't know if I can even pay the bills next month because I don't know if I can actually keep the doors open. Right.

Neeta Bhusban:

So if you have to leave me, I guess I'll do this all on my own. The scariest words that were coming out of my mouth, but also gave me the biggest liberation because improv said, yes. And and that was the greatest joy that I could give to myself during probably the deepest darkest time of my life because I was confronted with all of these mixtures of emotions, and I had to real time process alchemize and keep going. And so over those next 6 years, as I started to say yes to more help, more therapists, more guides, healers, shamans, practitioners, alternative therapy, holistic healers, everyone started showing up in my life. And I'm like, yes.

Neeta Bhusban:

I'm gonna go to that retreat. Yes. I'm gonna go to that conference. Yes. And then I started getting more support, which was in the hands of, alright, more consultants.

Neeta Bhusban:

How do I run this practice where I'm not even here? Oh, okay. I learned, alright, I could be a better leader, which means that I could just hire more docs. Yeah. Which means that I could not be there 6 days a week.

Neeta Bhusban:

I could be there 4 days, 3 days, 2 days, twice a month, once a month. Oh, fabulous. So I became really, really good at community building and inspiring

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. Vision and then And building a business that would run without you.

Neeta Bhusban:

And not having incredible. To be there.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

So then I started to say yes to other opportunities. I started to invest in female led startups because I did have capital, and I was single. And I didn't wanna go back to a toxic community that just went out on the weekends and just partied and because that was that time of my life. It was my early thirties. I mean, what else are you supposed to do in Chicago?

Neeta Bhusban:

No offense, Chitowne. I love you. And so and that was that was the beginning of saying yes to new things and because I was so great at building community. And and, honestly, I needed a community that I could pour into. I started a what we would call now a female mastermind.

Neeta Bhusban:

And it was professional women in Chicago, and it was we were we would take a because I was very much in my personal growth journey and taking all these different books. And and so that's what it became. And we would meet monthly. The group grew to over a 150 women in Chicago in my beautiful tiny little living room. And I started saying yes to more things that were completely outside my realm, which was more conferences, more retreats.

Neeta Bhusban:

And then it it ended up taking me to Stanford as a nonprofit management because I started my, nonprofit independent awakening. And it was there, you know, in Silicon Valley, in Palo Alto, where I learned all about startups because I was trying to build this nonprofit called Independent Awakening, which was to build, self confidence with women and girls. And it was my tiny little rinky dink, nonprofit that was, you know, championing self love in high schools and colleges. And then I got to see that a lot of these professors were teaching business and startups and, you know, founders. And I'm like, wait.

Neeta Bhusban:

Okay. I think I have a startup. I think I'm this is so cool. How do I get more involved in this? So then I started to invest in women and girls and female founders, and then I realized that what I was actually doing was coaching.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

So then I started to dive more into coaching, and mentorship and leadership. And what I found was a lot of the things that I was already doing in my own practice, mentoring the doctors, mentoring the dentists, mentoring our team that I wasn't even there. I was literally doing this for these startup founders who were raising tons of money. And it's literally some of the building blocks that I'm even writing today in this book. And it's it's how do how do we rise up after these adverse events?

Neeta Bhusban:

Whether you're trying to raise a million, 2,000,000, half a1000000, 20, 30,000,000 from investors, and literally, I was so blown away because they didn't even have a viable product. It was just all in a vision that they were creating by in thin air.

Kate Northrup:

It went wild.

Neeta Bhusban:

And and that's when I'm like, wow. I need to move here. I need to move here. And and that was literally the the beginning of the next chapter because I I said yes to selling my practice even though I had done a lot of really interesting things, like expanding it.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

Like, you know, buying the whole building. I mean, I was I thought because other amazing people in my field at the time said, you're so good at it. Why don't you just expand? And it was more of like, oh, what's my soul actually asking me to do? Is this really about money or is this about going and spreading your wings in a different way?

Neeta Bhusban:

And I knew my time in Chicago was just completely done on an energetic soul level. And and I I needed to then, you know, cut cords, and that's when my family thought I was nuts. They're like, how could you build such a strong footing foundation? What are you doing? Oh, she's gone mad.

Neeta Bhusban:

She's gone crazy. Who who is she dating now? Like, it was just a whole, people because you have Filipino Indian family Yeah. That are so rooted into collectivism and collective Yes. Groupthink.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I love all of that, and I appreciate it so much. But I think it was time for me to really find my own. And and and so I I sold, you know, my business to one of my, junior dentists, which was a beautiful exit.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

And it allowed me to then start the next chapter. Oh. And and and here we are.

Kate Northrup:

How long ago was that? 8 years ago. I mean, it's not that long ago.

Neeta Bhusban:

Not that long but so here here's the here here's what's funny. So everyone listening, here's what's interesting. When I let that go, and, you you know, it was 2015 when I actually sold, obviously, I was doing other things. My nonprofit started getting off the ground, and I was actually starting to get asked to speak more and not on behalf of my nonprofit. So, you know, it was I became a speaker, obviously, first.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I realized, oh, okay. This this can be this can be something. But when I said yes to taking the other path and this, you know, this is stage 4 when you're magnifying. Right? As you fly forward, you're now blooming and blossoming, and you're just fully in flow because you're in alignment Right.

Neeta Bhusban:

With who you really are. I mean, this is your soul's purpose. Your soul's calling, your dharma. You're you're so in alignment that that's when I would actually bump into my now husband. That's what I would bump into Ajit.

Kate Northrup:

I was gonna ask you how you you met, so thank you for just filling that in for me.

Neeta Bhusban:

And and, I mean, we met in different parts of the world. We met at this event called A Fest. Yes. I heard of it. And that was, a few years before I was quite ready.

Neeta Bhusban:

I was I was quite ready for a relationship, but we stayed friendly. And then that year when I had sold my practice, I was like a free bird flying all over the place, had some capital. I don't know what's what I'm gonna do next. I was actually researching for my very first book. And because I'm a science geek and a science nerd, I mean, that's just never gonna go out of my out of my mind.

Neeta Bhusban:

I literally started, you know, meeting with people all around the world, scientists, shamans, leaders from, you know, different various places all across the globe. And he was actually in Malaysia at the time, and we bumped into each other in Malaysia. And then a year later, we were both speaking at the same conference in India. So we never actually met in the US. It was always outside of the country.

Neeta Bhusban:

And so a year after, we started dating. Wow. And then a year after that, we had 9 unions across the globe. Wow. And then a year after that, I I stepped into motherhood Oh

Kate Northrup:

my gosh.

Neeta Bhusban:

As I share so vividly in the book.

Kate Northrup:

I read that last night, your worst story, and I cried. Yeah. It's really beautiful.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. There are some parallels with my first birth. Oh, yeah? Yeah. It's really good.

Neeta Bhusban:

I almost turned that into a moth story in a stand up set. Yeah. Yes. I'm still I'm still tweaking it, but I think

Kate Northrup:

I think I'm gonna I think it would be great.

Neeta Bhusban:

I think I'm gonna turn it either moth slash stand out, because I feel like there's elements. You could go really high, and then you could take it really low.

Kate Northrup:

Oh my god. Wait. Did you I'm, like, backing up. Backing up. Yes.

Kate Northrup:

Did you go so at what point did you sign up for did you sign up for an improv class? Mhmm. And how did that occur to you to do?

Neeta Bhusban:

Did somebody invite you? So so when you're ready, right, when you say yes, guides in your life appear.

Kate Northrup:

Yes. And so Guides, just to be clear, not guys.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yes. Guides. Excuse me. Guides do appear as well. You may not be ready.

Kate Northrup:

Guides.

Neeta Bhusban:

You may or may not be ready, or that may be the path that you need to take. I think for me, they were in the form of guides, angels, as I like to call it. And what I really mean by that is, you know, I met people in the forms of these amazing humans. And one of my girlfriends, shout out to Melissa, she I had met her. We were training for a triathlon because I was very much into triathlons at the time.

Neeta Bhusban:

I've always used movement and just working out as as just a way of resetting myself, and it's become a really big practice. Not so much triathlons, but just movement in general. Can only do only so many of those. But and this was when I was trying to build new friendships, and she was like, you know what? I'm I'm doing this thing at Second City.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah. And that's, you know, for people who don't know, Second City in Chicago, that's where a lot of the big greats who go off to Saturday Night Live. I mean, everyone should know. It's kinda like the Harvard of Very

Kate Northrup:

big deal.

Neeta Bhusban:

Of of SNL, and they go off and create these careers. And so and I've always when she even said the word improv, I would just I I, like, closed up. I'm like, no. There's no no way. And she's like, no.

Neeta Bhusban:

No. No. You're gonna love it. She's like, no. I'm taking you.

Neeta Bhusban:

Just say just say yes. And I was like, no way. What are no. We we have to, like, be funny? Like, I I had zero idea what this was.

Neeta Bhusban:

And so she's, like, please just I think you're really gonna love it. I think it's just great people. We just have fun, and we act like a bunch of kids. And so I'm, like, alright. Fine.

Neeta Bhusban:

And so I signed up, and, of course, it literally changed my world. Yeah. And, yes, there were people that, of course, you know, wanted to go and and and and and be on stage. And and you're, you know, improv is different than stand up, very different. It's it's all about being present and all about being a yes and and and just being able to play.

Neeta Bhusban:

And for the first time, you know, literally ever in my life, I was just allowed to play. And that was the beginning of really maybe even falling in love with my inner child and just being able to give myself permission to

Kate Northrup:

Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

Play.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. So beautiful.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah. Yeah. And so and that led me to to to stand up comedy.

Kate Northrup:

So you also did stand up.

Neeta Bhusban:

I have. Yes. Yes. I've 3 classes. Yes.

Kate Northrup:

Oh my gosh. So our mutual friend Vasavi Yes. Was trying to convince me that I should do stand up because she was like, you're really funny, and I was like, I'm not funny. I do love to laugh. Those are 2 different things.

Kate Northrup:

I like funny people,

Neeta Bhusban:

and she was like,

Kate Northrup:

she was like, no. You should do stand up. Anyway, just

Neeta Bhusban:

You would be great.

Kate Northrup:

Can we

Neeta Bhusban:

both can we both do a 5 minute set? Come on.

Kate Northrup:

That sounds like I really would rather die

Neeta Bhusban:

Stop.

Kate Northrup:

Than doing that. Yeah. So maybe I don't know. We'll see. Oh, wow.

Kate Northrup:

Okay. Yes. In your book, you talk about entitlement, and you speak about the difference between entitlement and privilege and the intersections of the 2, and I'm just curious. Like, I've never read anything or heard anything that was so powerful in terms of, like, identifying what entitlement actually is, and it is rampant Mhmm. Obviously.

Kate Northrup:

I mean, I'm sure it's rampant everywhere, but but can you talk about, like, what entitlement is and what might end up being entitlement that we don't think is entitlement? Because I think that as I was reading this, I was like, oh, I can see how this has shown up in my life. I can see how it's shown up in clients' lives, and I have not seen folks talking about it so much. And I'm glad you were are.

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh my gosh. Or are. I don't know. So this is huge because I mean, and this was another this was it still is a big thing because I think, you know, we've probably talked about it offline in terms of even hiring talent for Mhmm. Our teams.

Neeta Bhusban:

And it's a big thing that I talk about now just in general conversations with people depending on who they're hiring as as talent. And some would argue and say, some of the the new newer generation Gen z is is, you know, quite entitled. We've had these conversations of they they have these ideals of, you know, what they want, their expectations. We've had this this whole idea of, you know, the the quiet quitting. And I think also because, we're so global as a company and I get to visit family in India.

Neeta Bhusban:

We go to Dubai quite a bit. I have team members all over the world. It's very interesting to see the differences in people who are, you know, either from from the states versus other places in the world where they need to really put food on the table. They need to field feed their families. They're coming from a different place, and they're like, I'm ready to work.

Neeta Bhusban:

I'm ready to, you know, put sweat in the game, put burp, you know, put skin in the game. And entitlement really is coming from a place of lack. And so, you know, if you're coming from a place of lack and you think that, oh, oh, there's not enough there's not enough room at the top, or I'm I'm just not gonna share that information because there's there's not enough to go around, well, we're gonna start hoarding things because we think that there's not enough for everybody. Plenty, But there's plenty for us to thrive in. Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

And so it's it's interesting that we are in this dynamic, and it comes in quite a bit when we're talking about entitlement versus manifestation. And, you know, when we're talking about manifestation, it it is coming from a place of abundance and love. So there's a different attunement or frequency to it. Of course, in the book, I list a ton of differences between entitlement and privilege and how to really know, and and a lot of us are. We we all are and we've all acted entitled.

Neeta Bhusban:

This morning when I was trying to catch my 6 AM flight so I could be here. I run late to the airport. I'm not gonna lie. I do. Alright.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I'm just I'm that person. And, you know, there's always one in the relationship. My husband's like, nope. We're gonna get there early. We're gonna get there because I wanna make sure I'm at peace waiting to be called and waiting to line up in that beautiful line.

Neeta Bhusban:

And and I'm like, there is no why would you waste time? Who would waste time to wait and see all the people Yeah. Line up? Like, just just roll in when you're

Kate Northrup:

Just make a smooth transition.

Neeta Bhusban:

Just smooth Car security gate board. That's it. Yeah. So No stopping. No stopping.

Neeta Bhusban:

So, of course, he was not very happy this morning Uh-huh. When I decided to, snooze an extra 15 minutes Uh-huh. As I as I would. And he we we know this is one of the things that we we fight about in our relationship. Sorry.

Kate Northrup:

Real time updates. IRL. This is this is this is what we do

Neeta Bhusban:

on the brave table, so it's coming here too. So I and so, yeah, we we got there, and I realized I'm like, oh, okay. There's a lot more people flying today, so there's a lot more people in line. And he just hates it when you're cutting in line. Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

Okay, folks. So, so I said, you know, we're we're we're really running. Like like, our flight's gonna board in 5 minutes. Yeah. And he just looks at me, and he's like, you do this every time.

Neeta Bhusban:

When are you gonna learn? And so I said, excuse me. I'm so sorry. We gotta just so what I speak about in the book is This is perfect. That is entitlement.

Kate Northrup:

Asking to go ahead in the airline

Neeta Bhusban:

line. That's an example. Okay. You see, you you you you see some you know, the there's traffic, and you're getting to pick up your kids, and you're probably late, I am that person too. Mhmm.

Neeta Bhusban:

And so what are you gonna do? You're gonna drive on the shoulder and pass all those people that are waiting their turn in line just so you can cut. Who does that? I know I'm not the only one. I know I'm not the only one.

Neeta Bhusban:

My husband does that,

Kate Northrup:

but it makes me nervous, so I usually don't, unless I've spaced out Okay. And, like, forgotten to get over, which I did do the other day. And then I was, like, thinking about you. I was, like, this is me being entitled. I'm cutting in front of other people.

Kate Northrup:

But I was, like, if I keep driving and I don't do this, I'll miss my exit. My kids are waiting for me. And it is. It was my fault that I missed getting over when I should have. Correct.

Kate Northrup:

And so then I was having entitlement of, like, let me just nudge in here. Yeah. Just put my hand up beside the window and wave.

Neeta Bhusban:

Hi. And say, hi. I'm so sorry.

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. So so you gave this example of entitlement of someone you were working with, and, you know, I'm sure it was some amalgamation of a variety of clients, but, yeah, we'll pretend it was one person.

Neeta Bhusban:

Right.

Kate Northrup:

Bob. I don't know what's the name. Anyway, that was, like, wanting their business to grow, like, now. Mhmm. And you were asking these questions.

Kate Northrup:

Maybe I'm conflating examples, but you were asking these questions of, like, but what's the impact you wanna make? What's the value you wanna provide? Like, how do you wanna be of service? And this person was just like, I just need to be famous now. Right?

Kate Northrup:

And so, we see this, especially, like, in the personal development industry, in the coaching industry. Like, somebody will join a program, and then when they are you know, don't have 500,000 followers in 3 months, they're like, this doesn't work.

Neeta Bhusban:

This doesn't work.

Kate Northrup:

I truly do. And I'm like, I've been literally running my business since I was 14. Like, it took a minute. You know? And so I think we can all watch out for I mean, yes.

Kate Northrup:

The airline line example is like a funny one, but it shows up in

Neeta Bhusban:

It shows up

Kate Northrup:

in this intense ways. Do you think that entitlement actually blocks us from manifesting?

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh, 1000%, because it's rooted in the frequency of lack. And if so there's a little bit so in that in that example, and I I remember the person that we're talking about vividly. So in the example that I shared, and this is this is many. I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure you've you've had them as well.

Neeta Bhusban:

And here is the the issue with that. When we think because we've been seeing somebody's work or we've been inspired by their books and then they say yes because they they see something, you know, in themselves and it turns on the ignition for them that, like, yes, I'm gonna I'm gonna do all of these things and I'm gonna sign up for the program. I'm gonna I'm gonna put in the work. But then what we're really asking is, well, what is your real intention? And most 9 times out of 10, they don't really know because what we're seeing right now, and this is the issue, is because everything is conflated on social media and it's the highlight reel and it's the fancy cars and, you know, the the beautiful images and all of these things.

Neeta Bhusban:

But we're not really thinking who is this for? How is how is my story gonna impact people? And and and are you doing this for the, you know, the pomp and show, the fame, or are you actually doing this because you wanna add value to people's lives? And so in this particular example, that person just wanted to see numbers and lots of followers. I'm like, what are you gonna do with those followers?

Neeta Bhusban:

No. I just I just I just want that. Okay. When you got to the root of it, it was so that this person could feel validated Yeah. And feel seen and feel loved and feel heard.

Neeta Bhusban:

Okay. But it started with, I just need to be famous. Okay. For why? And and it's not gonna get there if the root cause is because for for the fame.

Neeta Bhusban:

And and and if I don't have that, then, you know, I I want a refund or, you know, or or you're you're you're you're not great or, you know, all of these things. And and you're kind of like, well, let's rewind. And why are you even putting content out today? What are you doing this for? And I think, you know, we have a responsibility even just as I'm sharing this because I think of our kids too when they start to put themselves up.

Neeta Bhusban:

Why why are you gonna share your lives online? Like, what is that purpose? And, finally, we can get into the metrics. Okay. Well, to entertain, to add value, or to educate.

Neeta Bhusban:

But, really, let's get to the root of it. Are we really going to manifest from a place of, okay. I need to be seen. I just wanna be loved. I wanna be heard.

Neeta Bhusban:

So

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. Yeah. We, I think, live in strange times, in terms of social media, the media, the ability to create a platform just yourself without you know, it just used to be that, like, you had to be picked by another media outlet to get that and which I think was, like, I'm would so much prefer now that we anyone can just be like, I'm doing this. I'm going for it. Like, you don't have to wait for Oprah to ask.

Kate Northrup:

You don't have to wait for the Today Show. You don't you don't have to ask for wait for any of that. You just choose yourself, get at

Neeta Bhusban:

it. Yeah. And Yes.

Kate Northrup:

As you so beautifully articulated, we have this conflation of numbers of email subscribers, followers on social media, with being important, with being valued and loved, and also with money and happiness. Oh, gosh. Yes. Like, I'm just really curious because you are working in front of the scenes with your own business and then also, like, you know, Ajit's businesses business, and you have multiple you know, you guys have a lot going on. I I'm sure I know a very small percentage.

Kate Northrup:

And, you know, you partner with Sahara on the Higher Self Institute and all these different things. Right? So you're, like, out there, but you are also behind the scenes, I know, with some pretty heavy hitters. What do you see that, like, we're doing as a culture around associating vanity metrics. I'll just use that phrase or fame being well known with all of these things.

Kate Northrup:

And, like, what what have you found as an antidote to that conflation both in yourself, but also in our industry? Like, how can we navigate it consciously without getting sucked in, staying awake, staying on purpose, all that?

Neeta Bhusban:

I think it really so if if you are inspired by this conversation, ask yourself what made you what made you get inspired. What was it, You know, that that maybe it's our energy. It's our it's our joy bubble that we create every time we're together. But I think that's the biggest thing is let's go back to our intention of what is it? What does it make or what makes you attracted or really excited to follow someone in today's time?

Neeta Bhusban:

And I think what we're seeing in the way we pick talent to work with a lot of times is is their integrity. Yeah. And, you know, there's a lot about authenticity, but are they unapologetic in who they stand for and what they stand for and, you know, in in whatever freak flag uniqueness, weirdness Totally. Whatever it is that they do they fully own it 100%. Yeah.

Neeta Bhusban:

And if you're looking to be a creator and if you're looking to you're, like, maybe, you know, I have a story. Because, you know, we all have a story. We we all have a story. But you're saying, what can I do with that story? Can my story help somebody?

Neeta Bhusban:

Okay. Ask yourself this question. Maybe your story can, and I think that everybody does, and we obviously teach this even at Highest Self Institute when you're actually in alignment with your dharma. And, you know, in Highest Self Institute, when you are in full alignment with who you are becoming, then you don't care about what other people say or think. You're not following the vanity metrics.

Neeta Bhusban:

You're not trying to do what everybody else is doing. Maybe you're looking because you're like, oh, this is cool. But ask yourself this, would this work for what I wanna create? Would this work for this stage and season of my life? Mhmm.

Neeta Bhusban:

And why, ultimately, why are you doing the things that you're doing? This year, I actually asked myself this question of where do I wanna put effort and time? Because now my kids are getting older. Yeah. I do travel a lot, and we you know, my husband and I, we we travel a lot, and and I feel like there is just this pull of more connected, meaning deep connected relationships that we're craving.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I think that there is just no extra time for Yeah. The shiny objects, I should say. And so, you know, and and and ask yourself, is this a shiny object? Like, what are you chasing, or is this something that you're thinking about that you can do for 5 or 10 or 15 years? Because we see a lot of people wanna do this because of x, y, and z, but they're not thinking of 5 years down the line or even 10 years down the line.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I know somebody like you, you've you've been in it for a really long time. You're one of the OGs. And to see, I think, a lot of where the industry is going, we just have to be I think I think people are actually being more cautious and careful Yeah. Of who and what is the real deal. I hope so.

Neeta Bhusban:

I I think I I think so.

Kate Northrup:

I think so too.

Neeta Bhusban:

I think so because, you know, there's only there's only a while where the superficial stuff kinda just falls flat. And those who are have been consistent, I think, from day 1, and consistency is the biggest metric. Doesn't matter if you're you've got 5,000 followers, but if you have 3,000 or even 300 of those avid fans that are going to be with you, and they're, yeah, they're opening up your emails, and they're they're literally lit up with how you show up. That's great. Celebrate that.

Neeta Bhusban:

You know, of course, as they say, the the riches are the niches. Right? But I what I what I really take in that is we're getting into a time where now with, you know, AI, all we will have is our communities. And, damn, you gotta be really good at building community in in in whatever way you can, whether it's online. And, yes, we get all sorts of turned on by all of these vanity metrics online, but people are craving to be in person.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yes. That's why you came to Austin to see. And that's

Kate Northrup:

why I'm

Neeta Bhusban:

come I'm here to see you, and I think that we're gonna

Kate Northrup:

It's the best.

Neeta Bhusban:

Be bringing more of that Yeah. Into play. And that's what and so if you're watching this and you're like, oh, I really love these people, well, then find out if they're having a live event. Find out if they're having a live workshop. Go.

Neeta Bhusban:

Because that's I think that's gonna be the difference. People are craving community.

Kate Northrup:

People are craving community.

Neeta Bhusban:

And and deep connection.

Kate Northrup:

Yes. And when you get around people I think you can tell online too, but our bodies know Yep. If it's a match or not. Just in terms of you know, because of the electromagnetic field of the heart, we can just tell if someone's a frequency match or not, and it becomes very easy to magnetize your people to you if you can show up in person. And and if you can't, for whatever reason, showing up as much as you can online 1000%.

Kate Northrup:

Is excellent. So as we wrap this up, community has been a through line for you since you were young. You know? And I'm curious, if folks are wanting to build their own communities and build that intimacy and build that deep connection, what would you wanna pass along to them as some wisdom that you've gathered over the years?

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh my gosh. Well, I have a how to create your soul support posse. Oh, fantastic. And that is a free guide. Great.

Neeta Bhusban:

I will give your community as well, and that'll be linked in the show notes. But it's a 16 page guide. And what I love and what I've found so much, because I have built communities all over the world, I mean and, you know, is is to the biggest thing is don't be afraid to reach out. Don't be afraid to reach out, and you'll know with people that who are who are actually real and authentic and, and and want to get to know you. And like you said, if if it's a match, a vibration match, an energetic match, you're gonna know right away.

Neeta Bhusban:

And I always say it's it's hard even as moms to find friendships Yeah. And relationships. And when you're trying to build community online in the DMs, it can get inauthentic pretty darn quick. I can't tell you the number of people who, you know, try to ask for things or they show up in the DMs, and you know it's like a crafted message, and it's not real. And I'm the one that's, like, alright.

Neeta Bhusban:

I'm alright, I'm gonna leave a voice note. A, because sometimes I'm just like, you know Yeah. On the walk, doing the dishes, whatever. Having 2 thumbs is hard

Kate Northrup:

at the same

Neeta Bhusban:

time. You can't do that. I'm I'm not for that. No. Voice note all the time, and then you can actually see the genuineness True.

Neeta Bhusban:

In my in my opinion. So don't be afraid to leave voice notes. Do not be afraid to get rejected. Yes. I think that's the biggest thing because and and these micro rejections are not gonna just be the first time.

Neeta Bhusban:

It could be second, third times. We just don't know what people are going through. And I can't tell you this enough even in our communities. The number one thing that holds people back even from doing do you know, throwing a dinner party or gathering soul sisterhood friendships, you know, for tea or coffee or whatever is what if nobody shows up? And this could be, you know, your your first yoga, whatever, in purse, whatever you wanna do.

Neeta Bhusban:

What if nobody shows up? Well, what if 2 people show up and you get to build connections and bonds with 2 people? It starts like that.

Kate Northrup:

I literally went to an event last night where it was, like, raining. And once you live in Miami, when there's a big rainstorm, you know that everyone turns into a huge weenie, and we're and I couldn't believe this when I moved here because I was like, I'm from Maine. We drive in blizzards. And then cue to me last night, I'm like, oh, it's raining. I don't wanna go.

Kate Northrup:

But I'm texting my girlfriend. I was like, we said we were going. We are rallying. I'll pick you up. So we show up at the event.

Kate Northrup:

We were the only 2 people there. Then then then 2 other stragglers came in. We had the best time. Yeah. And those relationships that were formed, I know will carry on.

Kate Northrup:

The conversation was really deep, really meaningful. We've already all connected afterwards at, like, in less than 24 hours. Super duper worth it. And the person who was throwing the event did not have any kind of which way story about it. I loved it.

Kate Northrup:

It was so refreshing. They just it's not that they didn't care, but there wasn't, like they were, like, great. Yeah. You're here.

Neeta Bhusban:

Yeah. Amazing. I was so happy. You don't need yeah. I feel like sometimes we overthink things

Kate Northrup:

Yeah. And we make it mean things. Yeah. And she wasn't making it mean anything, and I freaking love witnessing people not making shit mean anything. It's, like, very, very freeing.

Neeta Bhusban:

Right? It's plenty.

Kate Northrup:

Yes. It is plenty. It is totally plenty. Oh my god. This has been so much fun.

Kate Northrup:

Oh my goodness. For coming.

Neeta Bhusban:

You're the best.

Kate Northrup:

Thank you for coming to Miami. Where can people find you? Obviously, they need to go get themselves a copy of that sucked. Now what? Absolutely.

Kate Northrup:

Really fantastic fantastic read. Very helpful. Again, I just wanna pinpoint your ability to articulate the difference between victimization, victim mindset, the difference between entitlement, privilege. Like, there's a lot of nuance in here that I think people gloss over

Neeta Bhusban:

Mhmm.

Kate Northrup:

That you nailed. So get the book. Where else should they find you?

Neeta Bhusban:

Oh my goodness. Okay. Well, I spent a lot of time on Instagram. So Neeta Bushin on Instagram, and we are, top 50 mental health, the brave table. So, and we'll, you'll find Kate's amazing interview there too.

Neeta Bhusban:

That was fun.

Kate Northrup:

That was a fun one.

Neeta Bhusban:

That was so fun.

Kate Northrup:

I'm so excited to be teaching a workshop for the first time at the Omega Institute in beautiful Rhinebeck, New York, October 18th through October 18th through 20th, called More Than Enough. During the weekend workshop, we are going to dig into healing and accessing more abundance for time, energy, and money from an energetic, emotional nervous system, and practical standpoint. There will be somatic practices. There will be journaling. There will be lecture.

Kate Northrup:

There will be dancing. And at the end of the workshop, you will have tapped into your access point for an experience of plenty in your life, specifically when it comes to time and money. If you wanna know more to come join me for that workshop, head over to kate northrup.comforward/omega. I'll see you there.