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What is going on, everybody?
Welcome to the Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
Um, I still love that or theme song.
I cannot get enough of that theme song.
And it's so funny because I
get it from royalty free
music so that we don't get
dinged by anything.
And as I'm making the behind
the scenes for the masters,
like I'm using different things.
And as I'm editing,
I have to listen to the
same song over and over again.
Then I'll be like walking
through the house,
singing this royalty free
song that nobody in the world knows, but,
but like the few people that use it.
um but I I have always loved
our theme song on here and
so glad that uh we found
that and I think I heard it
on one of proven's video oh
yeah oh they started using
it I was like yeah that's
our I was like that's the
song that we play yep
everybody wants to be like
the original right kenneth
Well, so glad you could join us tonight.
It's Sunday night.
We're back at our normal time slot,
normal night.
Wild day, wild weekend.
Both of my college team and
my pro team won this weekend,
so I'm in a much better
mood this week than I am in most weeks.
But, yeah.
Penn State was a little
frustrating last night, but...
msu the game and could not
score they could not score
somehow um but ended up
winning the game in the end
so and the bears actually
look kind of good today
that's good we'll see how
the lions do coming up
shortly are they tomorrow
yeah they're yeah they're
tomorrow eight yeah monday
night football football yep
niners I think we're doing
well right like real well
I didn't look, um,
I haven't even looked at
many of the scores from today.
I've had a busy day,
so I have to catch up on that.
Um,
Corey Leonard says on the Russ headed
home from beach brawl.
I'm assuming that's a bus.
Um,
Road?
He's on the road.
On the road.
Okay.
I am shocked that beach brawl went on.
I was very curious on that myself.
I know that Pensacola got
kind of missed by the hurricane,
but everything around it
would have been affected to
get there because it
actually affected the
Masters Fitness
Championship in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
So I am shocked that they were able to go.
Were people not able to travel there?
Yeah.
So we can jump.
Well, first, like, subscribe,
hit that notifier.
So, you know, when we're going live,
we are so appreciative of
all you people that come in
and listen to us every week.
We love you all.
Saturday,
I decided I was going to drive up
to MFC and see my people.
I've become so ingrained in
the Masters community now
that they are my people.
I like hanging out with them,
and I have such a good time.
So we drove up,
and this year they did it different.
They did all the RX and
teams in the morning and
all the elites in the
afternoon and evening.
I did not know that,
or I would have left later in the day
And then stayed later into
the evening knowing that
that was kind of the way it was.
But we ended up getting
there like in time to see a
couple RX heats and then a
big long break.
And so we sat there for the break,
but got to see a bunch of
people and then stayed for
one full event of the elite
and part of another event.
But it was reported to me by
many people there that Friday,
there were five judges that
could not get in and
fifteen judges who were
first responders who were
told they were not allowed to leave.
So that's total judges that
could not make it to MFC
and Friday night went really late.
Yeah.
Because it slowed everything down, uh,
for the competition just
because of lack of judges.
Um, but they, they got through it all and,
and then started back, uh, on Saturday,
recruited some judges from somewhere.
I know like Peter Brown's
wife wasn't volunteering
this year and did and jumped into judge.
And she is,
she's been a judge several places.
So they got some quality
people to jump into.
And then Saturday,
they're pretty much right
on time throughout the day.
I like the split up.
I just wish I would have
known for my schedule to be
able to get there at a time
where I could have spent more time.
But I got to see Jim.
I got to see Terry.
I got to see Ronica.
I got to see Lauren.
And Lauren, I joked with her.
She did an event that had double-unders,
and she caught the Carolins.
Oh, no.
And she goes...
I need help.
Like it, they just went and she couldn't,
she just couldn't find the rhythm.
And then all of a sudden,
like on the last two rounds,
they came back.
That was a chest to bar and skier workout.
I saw that one of hers.
And I was like, Oh, I feel your pain.
Cause Lex had sent me the video.
She was like,
Lauren's about to go right
now and go watch her.
So I put it on and I was like, Oh no.
in there in there many times
yeah she really struggled
on that double under and
then ronica went total boss
move and went unbroken
double under on the last
round to catch a bunch of
people and then what got
across the finish line in
total cramp calf leg wince
face um and I'm like that's
the face you make when you
see me for the first time
Um, but yeah, it was,
it was really fun to watch.
Um,
I just wish there was a way in the
masters community that we
didn't have to watch the
same event for four and a half hours.
Right.
I wish there was a way that
you could break it up better,
but I know logistically
like moving equipment and all that stuff,
like what else are you going to do?
But it just takes away from
the excitement of the events.
So you have that event, which was long.
That was a twelve to
fourteen minute workout and
it's got skier.
It's got fifty wall balls in
the middle of it.
A bunch of double unders,
not so you're not seeing a
lot of movement on the
floor where you can even see the race.
I didn't think many of the workouts had
Movement on the floor.
I was pretty frustrated with that.
I mean,
you had the one camera that for the
main floor that had commentary.
So you could kind of hear
what was going on,
but the other floor was
just the static camera.
I mean, thankful they had it at all,
but you could not tell what was going on.
They needed placards.
They need, or like they need to,
they need to tell the story on the floor.
So people watching can see
where people are at and a
finish line still didn't,
So I just got on my phone.
We were speaking before this
about Patrick Mahomes
taking out his own number
one wide receiver.
Rasheed Rice is feared to
have suffered a torn ACL.
Additional testing to be done.
He better give him some of
that contract that he has.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
So I think that we talk
about that with a lot of events.
that when you get away from
the games or high-level, like, Rogue,
like,
the story just doesn't get told as well.
That ten-round event with Sandbag,
Handstand Walk, Deadlift,
nothing changes.
And it's just this redundant...
people lift the sandbag I
don't even know how many
reps like six or seven
times and then you do a
handstand walk down it has
to be unbroken for some not
for others and then you
deadlift five times and
then you hand stand walk
back down and you and it's
ten rounds of that like my
goodness you couldn't even
tell what round they were
in right it just gets to be
a mash-up so no visual like um
nothing changed on the floor
no pylon no yeah like
placard or pylon or
something so that like you
can track the story like I
they've got to figure
something out yeah someone
flipping one of those like
score you know the athletes
I'm sure and veronica
saying I couldn't even tell
I'm sure the athletes
couldn't tell what place
they were in right
And that's on the smaller floor.
Then you go to the bigger floor.
It's so wide.
And the seating was bizarre.
Katie Calliore was in like lane nineteen.
Danny Oliveri's in like lane eight.
Lauren's in like lane thirteen.
How do they see each other
when they're like they
ended up being all in the
top four at the end of the
weekend and they're split miles apart.
So Corey,
they did not for every event they
did for the first event I was there for.
Yeah.
I think there was one,
I guess technically the
last event for elite, the run, um,
clean and jerk,
I guess technically you
could say they finished on the mat.
Um,
That one was weird because
of a stagger start.
So some people ran to their
bar to finish and some
people stopped on their number mat.
But I mean,
that one you could kind of tell anyway,
because you were coming in
on a foot race.
So you could see as people came in,
but the ones on the floor,
like that deadlift
handstand walk one or the pick six,
the overhead squat row,
they just put the barbell
down after the back squat and we're done.
Like you didn't even know if they were,
you were like, wait,
are they doing burpee
penalty or are they done?
No idea.
Andrew Sten says,
that's why I hate twenty lane floors,
but both MFC and Legends
will do it due to the number of athletes.
And I do kind of understand
you've got to get... It's
either that or we watch
eight hours of the same event.
It makes sense to do it.
But somehow tell the story
differently that you can tell.
I don't care that there's
twenty on the... You're right.
It was wide.
It was hard for...
maybe a camera to fit
everyone on on tv but that
doesn't mean that it can't
still be a thirty foot long
floor they had the room
there at mfc that does like
they can still run a proper
event that has a start and
a finish and has a placard
and I I mean it could be
equipment money a little
bit I don't I don't know
like what's keeping them
from doing that but
you can tell a story on the
floor with a little bit of
better planning for these workouts.
They had that event on
Friday where it was max
bought burpee box overs after the buy-in.
They did have a placard for that.
And that was good.
So leave that out there.
Why wasn't that out there
for the deadlift dancing
walk so that we could see the lane,
the rounds.
Right.
You had enough for that one.
So why not move it over to
the other floor for a ten round event?
so yeah but overall like I
thought it was a great
event like there were a lot
of people in the stands um
probably even more than
last year um with less big
names yeah I think what
this has become is the
stepping stone into the masters world
Yeah, which I sort of feel like the legend,
the December legends needs to be that.
And MFC needs to... On one hand,
I didn't get to go.
I had a wedding this weekend,
so I didn't even get to go
and support Ron and Jim and Terry.
A little frustrating.
But I've said this.
I think MFC could be one of
the top Masters competitions.
The venue is wonderful.
They typically have...
like we usually have eight
or nine events with a
swimming event and I get it.
We're in this period where
we need to figure out if
we're going to have swimming or not.
But I didn't like that there
was only six events and no
swimming this year.
I don't feel like there was enough,
enough events or enough
broad time domains.
Like the one,
the deadlift one was like a
twenty minute cap.
But I mean, some people took eleven,
like potentially the
longest some people were on
the floor was like twelve minutes.
It's still kind of like the games.
And I like in the past, we've had like.
Twenty minute AMRAPs.
Like you,
you have to work out for twenty minutes.
And I think you need to have
that long event.
I think you need to.
I think you need like the
last events today.
Both of them were two fifty point events.
And I don't know, like,
you're just I think you're
getting goofy with the
program and trying to just
throw in more scores.
It's not necessarily the
best way to spread those points around.
I don't disagree.
like that there's two
masters competitions
outside the games um but I
think because of timing
alone the mfc has become
like and I'm this is not a
dig on them it's because of
timing people have just
finished the games water
palooza socal just happened
with the masters division
now you have this it's become like the jv
for people to see where they stand.
It's the only,
it's the only competition I
know of with a thirty to
thirty four year old
division where people can
like see where they stack
up against people their own
age and not have to go
against twenty year olds
for the first time.
Like that's where you have
your Katie Cagliore's and
Danny Oliveri's and Lauren
Olsen's who have never got
to do that before and got
to see where they stand.
And they all did well.
They all finished in the top four.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, two years ago,
it was like the last week in October,
like the twenty second, twenty third,
like that type of weekend.
And it was that way for like
three or four years, always,
always the weekend after my birthday.
And then last year they
changed it to the like the twenty nine,
twenty eighth of September,
which means like so last
year I had to compete in
thirty nine again.
Like all from the year before, I was like,
oh, good.
The next year I'll be able to do forty.
And then, no, they changed it.
And I don't think it was a
great idea to move it up
like three weeks.
I think keeping it further
from the games would have
brought in some of those
people to maybe still do MFC.
What about if it was like late June?
As a warm-up for the games.
That was a big gap between
semis and the games for the Masters.
Because everything's online until then,
so it's a chance to get
your feet wet prior to the
games in person.
I think that's where that
one should get placed,
and then the games can be
in that August area.
I really like that.
You get that a couple months before.
You need an in-person comp.
A lot of Masters,
everything's online until
you get to the big show.
One,
you could do drug testing there for
the games as well.
I really liked that idea
because I know that when
they were late October,
they couldn't get judges
because they were all at rogue.
Ah, right.
Yeah.
So you're running into different,
it's not just the athletes,
it's the judges and the
volunteers and like you
need that whole crew to kind of happen.
And so, yeah.
Yeah.
And Andrew Sten says it does
depend on when the Masters games happen.
If it's where it is this year,
that Carolyn's idea makes perfect sense.
A tune-up live competition
before the games,
I think people would jump
at that opportunity.
Yeah.
Cause it's like the semis
are normally now we don't
even know what the season
will look like next year.
We can talk about that later,
but like the semis are
normally end of may middle
or beginning middle of June.
So it would be,
and it's not like there's that many, uh,
masters athletes that will compete there.
There are a few,
but those athletes are
getting their in-person competition.
It'd be for the rest of them, um,
to get their feet wet before.
So that's why I think end of June is a,
you know, mid end of June would be good.
Yeah, I really,
and I think they get way
more participation.
Yeah, I like that.
I like that.
So overall, I thought it was great.
Like Jamie said,
and we've said this a billion times,
their facility is awesome.
Tons and tons of parking.
It's a huge facility.
The ushers that are hired
from the facility are super
nice guys and ladies.
They're very accommodating.
And there's just tons of spot to camp out.
Right.
And hotels are super reasonable,
super reasonable, plenty.
And they had an extra set of
stands this year.
Um,
last year it was just on the far end of
the one of the big floor
this year that I'm all the
way up the front and down the side.
I do have to thank a special angel,
though.
Julie was sitting in the
stands in the fourth row.
I've talked about on this show,
she needs knee replacements.
She lost her balance coming
down the stairs of the stands,
and a guy grabbed her by the arm.
And another lady saw it and
pushed her on the opposite shoulder.
And it swung her enough that
her balance pivoted from
forward to sideways.
And she was able to catch
herself and not go face
first down the stairs.
Oh, my gosh.
And whoever that person was, thank you,
thank you, thank you.
Because that was scary.
Scary as hell to me.
And then Dan Church,
who is an avid listener of
us and one of the best guys
in the space and is a
trauma nurse in his real life,
helped her down the stairs
the rest of the way.
So it was cool that this
little community gathered
around her in a very
emergency situation and
made sure she didn't.
All I could keep picturing
is her face first into that
cement at the bottom of the stairs.
And the guy that caught her was strong.
He got her with one arm and
then pulled her.
And then the other lady kind
of gave her her balance and big breath.
Corey Leonard, Dan Church is a saint.
Pretty close.
I think he's up for it in
the next couple of years.
he did elite this year he
did awesome how'd it go um
he was in thirteenth out of
twenty when I got there um
he the next event who I
watched him was the sandbag
handstand walk he started
slow and then started
catching people because his
handstands never faltered
for a big dude like that
guy can go inverted forever
and he just started clipping people off
um and I think he was in
like second or third um
when it came to the end of
that one so I don't know
how he finished overall
because I instagram they
only put up the top five
yeah so he did not make it
to the top five but um but
yeah always rooting for
that guy super super nice
guy um so there's that
We'll move on to tomorrow.
Episode four of all access
behind the scenes of the
twenty twenty four Masters
CrossFit Games comes out at
twelve thirty p.m.
Eastern Time.
That is nine thirty a.m.
Pacific Time.
And yeah,
this one is only a twenty minute episode.
This is the last episode of day one.
And then it kind of shifts.
We talked about that a
little bit where we're
Next week, we lose some access,
but everybody starts to know who we are,
and so the conversations become longer.
So we have more content to
sift through moving forward
after this one.
But I have a clip here I'm
just going to show you.
It's not a trailer.
It's just I took the clip
right out of this episode,
and it's just so you can
get a little taste.
So here we go.
So you just finished event three?
The overhead squats and lunges?
How'd that go for you?
It was good.
I think I was second in my heat.
And I think I was faster
than the first heat, so it was good.
Is that in your wheelhouse?
I mean, everything's in my wheelhouse,
I guess, right?
Like, I mean, it's hard for me to say,
like, wheelhouse.
Like, I'm just, like,
I just got a lot of things I'm good at,
you know, and I just, yeah.
I mean,
I don't really consider anything my
wheelhouse this weekend.
It's just,
I think that I just don't want to have,
like, those expectations, right?
Because then if you're like, yes,
this is my wheelhouse,
I should do good at this, then it, like,
puts a lot of pressure.
So I'm just trying to been, like,
everything's just, like, even keel, like,
it is what it is.
There we go.
Jamie's main competition.
Yeah.
How does it feel when you
hear your competition say
stuff like everything's in
our wheelhouse?
How does that feel when you hear that?
She is definitely confident.
Good for her.
I don't feel that way.
You think maybe you should?
I don't know.
I guess you guys are such
similar athletes.
We are similar.
I get a second of each other
on everything.
And I guess I can see what she's saying.
Like in the, there was a,
there was a decent amount
of CrossFit and I think
we're both good at CrossFit.
Um, so yeah, you're both smaller.
Yeah.
I,
I would not say that that was what was
wheelhouse for me,
like squatting my squat speed.
I, I just have really long legs.
Like I may be a shorter athlete,
but I have, but I have no torso really.
And I have very long legs.
So I might as well be
squatting next to somebody who's five,
ten.
Um, and my, and because of my back, I,
like, especially if it gets heavier,
I'm just slower at squatting.
Um, I'm great at lunging.
So like, it was like a weird,
I needed more lunging in that workout.
So Carolyn,
as an athlete and you hear that
and you know, Jamie,
what are your thoughts?
Jamie has some wheelhouse for sure.
Like I think it was you in two,
two events or top two and a couple,
two or three.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think I had two, two seconds in a first.
You have a lot of things
that you're really good at.
You just have one hole with the strength.
Didn't you get two wins?
Yeah, I think I got two wins.
The run and the echo bike.
No, Carleen won the echo bike.
She finished and I was... Yeah,
so I got second on that.
Yeah,
you guys were very similar because I
remember even the strength,
Carleen went down as well.
And then you guys were close
on a lot of the workouts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, we were very close.
I think you might just be more, like,
honest.
Like, you're always very, like,
you know your strengths and weaknesses.
You know where you are
within the field and how to
stay within your own lane
if something's not, you know,
your strength.
But then sometimes, I mean,
you surprised us on some of
the events that you were
saying you weren't going to do as well,
and then all of a sudden
you're crushing it.
So sometimes I think you
sell yourself short.
Yeah, that's probably.
Possibly true.
The reason I picked that
clip is she caught me totally off guard.
I was not expecting her to
be that confident.
Yeah.
Like right after.
And she was totally unabashed about that.
And I thought it was awesome
to get that raw kind of thing.
And that's why this has been
the most fun project I have
ever worked on.
And I can't wait to keep going.
And I'm really excited to
get to like episode five
because I think that's
where it's even going to
pick up some more because
people knew who we were
more by Friday after we
were around for two days.
So yeah, super excited about that.
But I do want to say Roderick Lopez,
he's known as meme for time on Instagram,
did a behind the scenes of
the adaptive CrossFit games.
It's really good.
I watched episode one and if
you want to know about the
adaptive CrossFit games,
I was educated so much.
The athletes are so open
about what they've been through,
whether it's like through
accident or through birth
or through disease or through whatever.
They're very open and honest
to talk about why they're
in this position and why
CrossFit has kind of saved
them and given them an opportunity.
And he does a really good
job with the athletes to be
able to tell those stories.
So if you have not checked it out,
it's really, really good.
That's awesome.
And I'm glad that someone
did it for the adaptive division as well.
Cause they, like all these athletes,
every athlete has should
have the ability to tell their story.
So, um, so yeah, super, super fun there.
Um, and that's on Roderick's YouTube page.
It's probably mean for time I'm guessing.
Uh, but I found it pretty fast.
So then we're going to talk about Roman.
So Roman posted a story.
I'm going to share that real quick.
That Dallin clipped, Dallin Pepper.
And here is what Roman
posted on his story.
There are rumors that if you
gather all the strongest
athletes from around the world,
North America won't stand a chance.
Dallin posted, Roman,
running your mouth doesn't
count as exercise.
Hang in there.
You might get another shot next year.
Maybe you'll even take it.
Yeah, that was my question.
Was Roman hurt or just declined or what?
I don't think we'll ever know,
but I've heard that it's,
it was through injury.
He did have an injury at the games.
So I know he was still recovering.
It was a little bit too close.
And then he wanted to focus on rogue.
And Ricky, we know,
was hurt as well at the games.
Right.
So that's two big hitters
that they didn't have.
But we were talking before
we went on the air,
like being healthy at the
end of the season is part
of the competition.
Right.
And you got to go with the
people that you have.
We talked about Patrick
Mahomes running into his
number one wide receiver,
and now they're fearing ACL.
Now he's got to play the
rest of the year without
his number one receiver.
They're not giving up on the season.
They're just going to keep going.
If Roman and Ricky couldn't
play because they were hurt,
then the world has to go on without them.
But I was really surprised
at how much this blew up.
Pat Vellner gets into it.
Justin Medeiros throws the meme up.
Dylan Lowen, Emily Rolfe,
and she goes back and forth.
There's nineteen replies to her post.
I could I've known Emily for three years.
I've never known her to be like this.
Like she Danielle Brandon, Ariel Lowen,
and it goes on and on and on.
And it goes like I could not believe it.
It's so good.
I think the athletes have
every right to jump in here
and say whatever they want.
Absolutely.
What drives me crazy is the
people that weren't playing
or even considered for this
jumping in and giving their opinion.
Yeah.
You haven't earned the right
to jump in the sandbox.
But I just,
I think this is great for the sport.
I think that water Palooza
may have found a really cool event and it,
and now there's next year,
there's more people who want to see this,
right?
They do.
There's definitely going to
be a call for trying to get
those top world athletes
and actually see where they stack up.
And how much did,
how much did loud and live
have to pay for that marketing?
Right.
Yeah.
zero dollars any thoughts
carolyn I like it it's just
I couldn't tell like with
some of the comments
whether it's like there's a
lot of sarc like not
sarcasm but kind of um it's
it's entertaining I like it
I mean I think roman has a
good point like not all
their top athletes were
there um like you could add
gabby laura ricky roman jay
crouch like there's a lot of them
But like we talked about
before coming on the air,
there was Guy that had some
specialist-type workouts for him.
I mean,
Tia dominated every event that she
took part in.
To get Roman and Ricky on,
Guy probably doesn't make it.
Right.
Yeah.
So you lose the heavy lift
and you lose the gymnast.
So what does that mean for the overall,
you know, so it is going to be,
it would be interesting to
see how it all played out.
Right.
And,
but then we talked to that Emma Lawson
really should have been on
the North America team and
probably Emily would not.
Yeah.
And then,
so then you lose your long distance.
Yeah.
Endurance person on North America and you,
but you gain like a handstand phenom and.
Great athlete.
I think Emily is one of the
most perfect athletes for
an event like this.
I don't think that's
somebody you want to lose.
Lawson would be too close, I think,
to some of the other ones,
like Raptus and Dingell and stuff.
And Emily brings something
different to the table in
terms of the specialization that she has,
especially in the running workouts.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's just, it's,
it's interesting to think about.
Um, but with all that,
what are your thoughts about, um,
using this?
Do you think what they did
with the tier cup could
help the team division T E
a M team division?
Yeah, I mean,
I do feel like you could
maybe take some of these
event ideas and make team
events have these, like,
pick your best female,
pick your best male,
and they're going to go on
the floor and they're going
to... I don't want to say that that would,
like, encourage specialization,
because I don't think we
ever really want to
necessarily see that and push for that.
But I do think...
I just think the races on
the floor could be more fun
and more interesting to watch.
I like the format that you
can have different people
go in and have events.
I think you should have no more.
I think four people or four guys,
four girls is a little bit too much.
I like the three.
And then I would say that
you need a minimum amount
of events that you have to take part in.
So like,
let's say you have to take part in four.
So while you might have a
specialist in there,
there still needs to be,
they got to be thrown out
there a certain amount of
times in the weekend.
That part's just hard
because if someone were to get injured,
what do you do if they
didn't meet that minimum
work requirement?
Yeah,
I think we have to play around with
the rules,
but I still think that you should have,
you should force people to
play a certain amount of times.
I think if,
so many times we've seen a
team show up and get
injured and not be able to play.
I think if you had a six
person team and for any event,
the max number on the floor was four,
then you can avoid that.
And if they get hurt,
then you're just down one
person and have to go the
whole week with just the five or four.
But,
but then you have to make sure people
aren't gaming it.
Right.
Because people would be like, ooh,
I'm hurt.
Ooh, I can't.
I can't.
Because they know their specialty is done.
Yeah.
Like, oh, I'm done my lift now.
I'm hurt.
Yeah.
So, but I do think it would add something.
And just because you would
add some specialization,
we shouldn't shy away from it.
Add enough stuff that, like,
they have to work as a team.
You could add four more
events that are classic
CrossFit Games events, right?
That all four have to work
together or all six have to
work together.
And you can't hide anybody
in those events.
Right.
And still add some of the
specialization that will attract crowds.
Yeah.
Just my thoughts.
I think we've stumbled onto
something here that might be good.
You can do substitutions in
team events without it
being grid with funky
movements and utter craziness, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
grid's like in and out in
the same workout.
This is not like in the same workout.
This is you,
you do the workout and then
you can switch out the next workout,
which is different.
Yeah.
Could be a challenge for the
sponsors for the kit.
I mean, that team has already,
I'm sure hard to fulfill
all those challenges.
because they like those team
athletes are getting their
own personal name on their
jerseys I almost think
you'd have to be like
here's your team name kit
and you guys gotta you guys
gotta split it up well it
if you if you finish
semifinals with your six
people that you're bringing
you bring those six and
then you can sub in and out the four
I know,
but now you're going from making
clothing for four people
amongst thirty teams to six people.
Money's no object.
Money's no object.
We're bringing people to the stands now.
It's going to be more exciting.
Okay.
Just thinking through my
master's brain of how we've been treated.
Yeah.
Where it says teens instead of masters.
Yeah.
Okay.
Um, before we get to the last subject, uh,
I want to real quick, just share this.
Um, I need to do a huge shout.
I should have done it last week,
but I'm going to do it this week.
And our photographer, uh,
from water Palooza, SoCal,
and he's done some other events for us.
Uh, he's my captures.
Uh, you follow this guy.
He's awesome.
Um, how am I not following him?
Okay.
anyway so he is our
photographer he's really
become like our west coast
um content guy um and he is
so great to work with it's
so phenomenal um and this
is a picture of him a huge
shout out to him he did the
west semi-finals for us he
did water palooza socal
he's going to continue to
do events for us it's been
such a great relationship
um and it's so cool uh
getting to work with him
but huge shout out
everything we posted the
thumbnail for tonight came
from his pictures um he is
the one that put the reels
up for us um it's been
awesome and awesome and the
other piece of this was
that um we gained two
hundred followers from
brazil because of his gi
reels oh that's awesome
on instagram so that was
that was great love it so
huge shout out to him so
the last thing I have is
what we're going to finish
the night with and I'll
admit coming up to this
point this week I thought
without question we would
have a twenty twenty five crossfit games
And after kind of reading
through Instagram,
I don't know how I started
scrolling on this with
different athletes and
looking at different things.
I'm not sure anymore.
And so I wanted to pose it up to you guys.
Do you think we will have a
twenty twenty five CrossFit Games?
I mean,
I think if you're looking at it
from the perspective of
athletes saying they might
sit out and whatnot,
and that that's going to
shut down the games, I would say no.
Um,
I think the sport is bigger than our ten,
twenty well-known athletes.
Um.
Um, I think,
I think it's going to depend on, you know,
still stuff to come with
the Lazar situation and, and where we,
where that shakes out.
Um, and from the, from HQ side,
more than athlete side,
there's always going to be
another fit person that probably would do,
um,
Of course not as well as Tia.
But quite honestly, if Tia were to sit out,
great.
We'll get a new set of names
to watch and view.
We've talked about it, Scott,
and maybe we are in the minority,
but I love watching the fourth heat.
I love watching somebody
that we don't really know
win an event out of heat one.
Um, and I would, I, you know what,
like if you want to sit out the season,
sit out the season,
we're going to get some new
names who are going to show
us some things that we
maybe didn't expect.
And I I'd love to see new
blood in the water.
I just think it's going to look different.
I don't know what it's going to look like,
but I have a feeling that
there's going to be a lot
of changes once again.
And if the company of
CrossFit wants to focus
more on the health and the affiliates,
I think there's going to be
slowly a separation from
the sports side of things
and for liability and stuff
purposes maybe as well.
But I just think it's going
to look different.
Not sure what that's going to be,
but I think there's going
to be some changes in the new year.
I think there are athletes,
like I've seen it said in
comments and stuff,
that they will not come
back to the games unless
there is significant change.
And I was surprised at the
athletes that said that.
I was too.
There was some that surprised me,
but it is what it is.
Make your stance and that's fine.
I don't, I don't know that they're like,
there's other comps that
that will continue just fine.
Right?
Like a lot of clues is going
to continue just fine and
rogues going to continue just fine.
And I'm sure there'll,
those athletes will be
willing to go to that.
Um, and if they, if, like I said,
if new blood comes in
through the CrossFit space, um,
through the open and whatnot, then, um,
Maybe they've done
themselves a disservice and
somebody else catches fire.
Here's my biggest fear.
And I've got a list of
things that like just thoughts, right?
First biggest fear is the
one thing the CrossFit
Games were is that one
championship of the year
that was for the fittest on earth, right?
And while we may complain
that they're leaning heavier,
they're leaning bigger, they're not rogue,
thank God, right?
Right.
right so at least there was
still a shot for like the
fittest and people to
compete like you and like
christy and like carolyn
and the people that could
still play in the game I I
think I do think it's going
to happen I do think it's
going to look different
what that means I have no idea
My other fear is that if
something happens to the games,
what happens to the adaptive, the masters,
the teens, the teams, right?
We're all focused on the
elites and all that they're saying.
Those people don't even have a voice.
Now, I think adaptive,
Wheel Watt has always been
their championship,
and I think they'll continue to move on.
Maybe legend steps up,
maybe the pit steps up and,
and at least those two have
a championship, but like,
I'm worried about that.
Yeah.
I worry about that too.
I mean,
we like legends is going to have to
step up.
hugely to even give it, make it look,
you're going to turn into
like MFC and like people there,
the top are not going to go
to that for a pair of shoes.
They just aren't like people
are not going to those
events unless you get a
real cash purse prize.
That makes sense.
Right.
And I think you lose all that.
If you don't have an open
that is supported by fifty
percent Masters athletes and
you don't have the the cash
flow to do to do what you
need to do right and so I I
that is my fear that is my fear
The other fear I have.
If there's no open,
then legends can do their
own online qualifier.
And now all the masters that
would have done the open
maybe signs up for legends
or masters qualifier there.
Sorry, my washer is going on.
So I've been muting.
So you guys don't hear the
spin cycle right now.
I that that's an option, but it's,
it's not the same community
event as the open that you have at your,
I think the reason so many
people sign up for the open
is because gyms encourage it.
It's a community event.
Like that's,
there's so many ties to
different things that if the,
if the main hub goes,
do we lose all those little
things around it?
And I don't think we're
going to lose the main hub.
I just think it's going to look really,
really different because,
And I think athletes should
have a say and they should
have representation.
I just wish the PFAA would
tell us why more so that we
understood what was behind this.
Yeah.
When I'm looking at these comments,
people are really pissed off.
And what I'm being told
isn't really elevated to a
level of being that pissed off.
I'm missing.
There's something missing from this.
Yeah.
that, and I just don't understand it.
And I don't want the sport
that I love and I follow
and the methodology that saved my life to,
to go away.
And I'm always going to have
a place to work out, right?
Like I know that's not going away,
but I love following this
sport and I don't want it taken away.
And I do want the athletes to have
The reason I'm hard on them
is I want them to do it in
a way that makes sense and
everybody has a voice.
That's all.
Because if you guys lose this,
Masters athletes lose their thing.
Adaptives lose their thing.
There needs to be a voice from them too.
Yeah.
So...
I don't know.
I just think that there's
still going to be other
opportunities to compete.
There's so many comps that
don't have the CrossFit
name and they've continued
to be successful.
But like you said,
if you take away the CrossFit part,
does it start slowly
affecting those over the long run?
Probably over the next few years,
but immediately they'll be
fine in the next year, but it'll be
three, four years from now,
what's going to be happening.
And maybe someone will take
over the sports side and
it's going to be something
completely different again.
Maybe.
I hope like that's, that's the thing.
Like if you don't have an
ultimate championship at the end,
are people going to watch?
Are people going to continue
coming to Waterpalooza or coming?
Does Waterpalooza become a local comp now?
Like,
And this is why like I
always tell like the young
athletes to like not, you know,
go all in and cross it and
not have any plan B and not, you know, um,
not play any other sports.
Like there's no scholarships
in CrossFit there.
The sport constantly changes.
Um,
you just don't have that stability
within our sport.
That's, um, that's in other sports.
So, um, yeah, like keep your options open,
keep, keep, uh,
keep playing sports and being active.
And the methodology is just
always going to be there to me.
it works yeah I don't
disagree with that at all
but I do think that yeah I
think that because of the
way the pfaa is formed the
voices are from the top
tier who have who have a
very different view of what
life is like than
the eleventh-placed person
at semifinals that just missed out,
or the fifteenth person who
is on their way up that
might make it next year, right?
And they have no voice as to
the future when they
probably are the future.
I mean,
have they considered bringing
Masters voices on, or teens, or...
I mean,
I know that it sounds like they let
Angelo in on the last meeting.
So like maybe they're
bringing some team athletes in,
but maybe they should hear
some opinions from some
masters athletes or get them on this,
have a few, few of them on the board.
Yeah,
because the money that's raised by
that huge number of Masters
athletes that pay in the Open,
they pay quarterfinals,
and they have way more
semifinalists than you do.
Right.
And they're all paying that semifinal fee.
That's a huge chunk of money
that's paying for the sport.
Yeah.
And yet they have zero voice.
There's something
fundamentally wrong with that.
And that's all I've been
trying to say for months is
that I want representation.
I just want it to look the
right way so that we can
come to some resolution.
Craig says,
I'm really enjoying the Masters
behind the scenes episodes.
I'm glad because I'm really
enjoying making them.
I never,
never thought I'd have this much fun.
I usually hate editing, but I really,
this is actually fun editing.
Um, I don't even know what to, we,
we have some wild Twitch comments.
Um, YouTube listeners can't see.
Um,
killing me discount tom
hardy so uh and I and
because we're in a
third-party software I
can't even like block or
stop right now um but thank
goodness it's not going to
our youtube channel it's
just on twitch which I
don't think we have a ton
of listeners over there so anyway um
I guess that's all.
I just, I really, you know,
Lex has said that like
Bethany Flores has
announced her next
competition is High Rocks.
Listening to that,
my hope was she knows that
Rogue doesn't fit her.
And the only thing that's
going to do is possibly hurt her back.
So why not go do high rocks
and maybe do something
really great instead of
blow your back out going to do rogue.
And she's a great runner and
she's great on the machines.
Like high rocks can be great for her.
Yeah.
But she says throughout that interview,
like I still love CrossFit.
I love the methodology.
I love the, you know, so,
Hopefully it's just a temporary move over,
but who knows?
I mean,
she might fall in love with high rocks.
She may,
it may be less wear and tear on her.
You know,
we talked to Dave Hardy all the time,
right?
Judge former games athlete, uh,
in the masters division who
his shoulders just got to a
point where he couldn't
take it anymore and CrossFit.
So he went over to high
rocks and he's killing it.
Yeah.
I don't want to age him.
He's like, he's sixty plus.
I don't know.
But yeah.
Amazing stuff.
Okay.
I guess that's the crash workouts are out.
Have you guys taken?
Yeah.
And I forgot crash workouts.
I'll pull that up.
I know you didn't want dubs.
Do you like that it's a drag rope?
I like any type of dubs that
are not regular because the
gap between me and double
unders when it's a regular is huge.
The more different, the better.
I figured.
It's only forty,
so that's also better for
me because it's not like a
set of over a hundred.
I am pulling those up now.
Carolyn will be doing these next week.
uh is it next week all right
two weeks two weeks from
now two weeks from now two
weeks from now this week
this weekend I'm actually
doing a high rocks all
right not individual is
this it yeah if you just go
to the arrow you can just
go right to the workout
yeah all right there we go
Event one, dumb standard.
Three rounds for time,
ten dumbbell clean and jerks,
ten ring muscle-ups,
ten dumbbell snatches.
One hundred and seventy on the dumbbell.
Rest exactly one minute between rounds.
Score is cumulative time.
Jamie,
I'm going to go to you to analyze
because Carolyn's doing them.
What's your thought on this one?
I don't know.
A seven pound dumbbell is just disgusting.
I think the dumbbell plays a
bigger role to me than the ring muscle up,
but maybe it's cause I'm
good at ring muscle ups.
Um,
and someone who's like very proficient
with the dumbbells, I think can, um,
afford to break up the ring
muscle ups and be very good still.
Cause they can make up a lot
of time just with their movement.
Yeah, I mean, if you're somebody,
if you're like a lighter
gymnast who's good at ring muscle-ups,
as good as you are,
if that dumbbell is wrecking you,
those ring muscle-ups
aren't going to be perfect
by round three.
Like, you're not doing ten unbroken.
That minute break comes up fast, too.
Especially, like, in the third round.
There's a minute break every round?
Yes.
So you finish the ten dumbbell snatch,
then you get a minute rest, right?
Oh, I don't know if I like that.
It makes you push the pace more.
Like you're not pushing the pace anyway.
You're freaking racing with
all the other athletes.
Just make it three rounds per time.
Also,
I think it breaks up the two dumbbell
snatch movements so you
wouldn't have to do twenty on the spot.
I think that that's also a
good way to do it.
Because then you'd be stuck
continuing to just be on
the dumbbell for so long.
And your back would get fired up way more.
So one of the things I
always said about dumbbell
clean and jerks is they
become like a curl with a press.
Yes.
With this weight,
does that prevent that from
happening where it's going
to have to be cleaned more?
Like you basically like
catch it in a power
position and then jerk it.
Right, but can you, like,
seven-pound curls,
your biceps hurting quick.
Yeah.
Right.
Like, you need to get underneath it.
Yeah, you're doing more of a high pull and,
like, getting underneath.
You're not really bringing
it out away from you.
Because I know, like,
a fifty-pound dumbbell, like, honestly,
like, in a gym workout,
I'm just curling and pressing.
Almost muscle.
But seventy, no.
Or, yeah.
And, yeah, even for a dude.
Me.
So, okay.
And then, is it this way?
Other way.
Other way.
Go back.
Event two.
Click zero.
Midline sadness.
Six rounds for time.
Twelve nines calorie skier.
Twelve meter handstand walk.
Twelve medicine ball GHD sit-ups.
Twelve meter handstand walk.
Handstand walks must be unbroken.
That's like forty feet.
That's like forty feet.
So it's like eighty feet around.
That's a lot.
I don't practice med ball GHDs like ever.
I find they pinch my lower back sometimes,
but I tested this workout
this week and I was sore in
the abs for a few days, a few days,
just because it's like a
speed movement because it's
only twelve on the spot,
like you're moving that fast.
And if it's a movement that
you're not used to,
it definitely gets you for sure.
Yeah, I mean,
it's like a handstand walk
speed event for me.
But I just feel like the
really fast handstand
walkers are going to win this.
I mean,
it's not enough calories on the ski
to really make a difference.
Twelve GHDs,
you're not sitting around waiting there.
I don't know, like by round six,
I personally would struggle.
I feel like on like the last
handstand walk,
I'd probably have to rest.
Twenty seconds going into
that to make sure it was unbroken.
It's a good workout.
I like it.
Event three.
Pilgatory.
Pilgatory.
So this is like a small
little like worm looking sandbag.
Sandbag.
Yeah.
I love this one.
Fifty pill thrusters.
Fifty chest of our pull-ups.
Fifty meter pill lunge.
Anyhow.
Fifty chest of our pull-ups.
Fifty pill thrusters.
Will the pull-ups be on the
trapeze or the.
Yeah, the.
I think this would be
regular with the volume
that would be there.
I think it'll be regular.
I think it'll be regular too.
I love this workout.
I like these longer,
dense sets that JR programs.
This will be a good one.
Is the pill,
it looks more like a tube and
it has the straps?
No straps.
Just picture literally like a pill.
Just like a cylinder type thingy.
um it's just like a smoother
personal worm like it's
literally like you know
because I have like a like
a pill looking one but it
has straps around it like
yeah it'll be does yeah it
won't be like that it'll be
smooth all right I love it
then we go to four then
four and five are a combo
Four is lineman's fright.
Four rounds for time.
Six deficit strict handstand pushups.
Thirty meter sled drive.
And that's what is like, like alignment.
So you, it's like a, the flip slide,
but you don't flip it.
You keep it basically like
shoulder level and you like, uh,
push it down the turf as in
those football drills when
you have those dummies and
you're just pushing them.
So it's more of that type of sled.
I haven't done depth.
I haven't done depth.
And yeah,
you're holding probably like this,
but your arms are still
going to be tired from that.
Yeah.
I don't remember the last
time I did a strict deficit
that deep in a workout, like rogue.
We,
we would do maybe two inches on the
parallettes.
We did the one year at, um,
The Invitational, maybe two years ago,
it was the Parallel
Handstand Push-Ups that were strict.
We had about two inches.
CrossFit Games, I think,
had twenty-twenty.
Online had two inches for the females.
So this one's a little bit
more with nine and five.
What was the time camp on that?
Eight minutes.
I feel like there's going to
be people stuck on those
handstand push-ups by round three.
But
I can see people's... That
is not the right video.
No, keep going.
Yeah, there you go.
Okay.
No, you're missing event five.
MFN five, shoot.
I was trying to find someone.
Hannah Hardy jumped in and
said that the pill picture
is in the video.
Yeah,
the first slide of that of the pill
one would have shown you it.
But I'm going the wrong direction,
I think.
Yeah.
Okay, there we go.
There's five.
That is the Cal Bikerg and
Forty Drag Rope Double Unders.
And like,
eighteen cows versus the men's
twenty is not the same thing.
No.
Like, at that point, like,
why not just make it, like,
that doesn't do anything.
Like,
the men's power output on the bike is,
like, twenty would be, like,
fifteen for the females.
Agreed.
I don't know what two cows does there.
It's nothing.
I was curious on this one as well.
I didn't,
I don't understand why it wasn't
at least sixteen.
Yes,
twenty-sixteen or twenty-fifteen even.
Right.
Um...
Yeah, I mean,
because their shoulders are
just stronger anyway.
So coming off of that handstand push-up,
I think they're going to
fare better with this drag
rope double under.
This one's going to be a
power output person that
has good bike to me.
Yeah,
these are going to be two opposite
people.
Yeah.
So it's an eight-minute cap
on the other one.
You get a two-minute rest
and then... Another eight minutes.
Another eight minute workout.
So potentially if you're
great at the other one,
you get more rest.
Yeah, that's true too.
But I don't,
I don't know how many people
are going to finish that one.
All right.
I'm going back to see the pill.
Okay.
Um, cause Hannah said it's in the,
is this right?
Yeah, it is.
That's the right one.
That's the right one.
Okay.
It's linesman.
Well, if you're doing the pill,
you need to go back to the thruster,
the pillatory.
Okay.
Not lineman's fright.
That was handstand pushup sled.
I thought I wanted to see the sled.
You want to see the pill?
Sorry.
Yeah.
There it is.
Okay.
Ooh, that's smooth.
Mm-hmm.
Could get slick.
I mean, if it's super hot there.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now we know what the pill is.
Now let's see what the sled is real quick.
Cross fat.
Yeah.
We already talked about the Roman thing.
So you have to go back and
watch that after you hit
like and subscribe.
Those are some excellent
strict deficit handstand pushups.
So that is a flip.
No, it is a flip.
Oh, so you got to lift it and push it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like this.
So like,
you're not relaxing your like
shoulders really.
Even your biceps.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
I've never,
I haven't flipped that sled
since water Palooza.
I think it's the same one
that we did at water
Palooza a few years ago.
So I don't know what it,
what's the weight of it empty.
I think I actually like that better.
Then hunch him down over for me.
But I'm five eleven.
I don't remember what it is empty.
I mean,
because we used it last year at
crash and.
I had looked like looked it up,
so I knew that the base weight is,
but three.
I don't know, like one hundred.
All right, this one went,
this is a new one.
Uh, this is mad moon event, six,
five rounds for time,
six hundred meter run,
fifteen burpee getovers, uh, a yoke.
Yeah.
So the yoke is placed at
that height and you're just,
you can put your hands on
the yoke and just like
burpee getovers basically.
Taylor did them and kill Taylor.
Okay.
Uh, and then, uh, five, seven, nine,
eleven, thirteen deadlifts.
Put the weights higher.
Three sixty five to forty five.
Three sixty five is much
heavier for the guys in two
forty five to me.
Two forty five is two forty five.
That's sixty seven percent for deadlifts.
That's way too much.
Like that's really light for
the females compared to the males.
That should have been heavier to me.
Well, you just, that's your wheelhouse.
I wouldn't have wanted it any heavier.
But, sixty-seven percent,
we don't go to sixty-seven very often.
Sometimes it's appropriate.
Maybe not in a deadlift,
I don't necessarily disagree, but.
I was picturing the yoke higher.
But that's not bad.
Thirty, what,
it was thirty-four inches or something?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Better than forty inch
burpee back jump overs or
forty eight inches or whatever I did.
This is event seven thick
and thin for time six and
four legless rope climbs
twelve overhead squats six
and four thick rope climbs
two inch and then twelve
axle bar overhead squats.
Eight minute time cap.
I hate axle bars.
I haven't tried this one yet,
but I don't know.
I haven't tried the last three.
The heavier overhead squats
are with the shorty bar and
the lighter overhead squats
are with the axle bar.
Legless on the regular rope.
Regular rope climbs on the thicker rope.
Yep.
One point five is regular rope.
Yeah.
This will be a good workout.
How do you feel about that, Carolyn?
Uh, for me,
it's a legless workout or legless work,
um, world climb workout.
Yeah.
It's a time it takes between the legless.
Like that's a big difference.
Like do you have huge
separation there in the females?
You will huge separation there.
Like the guys can do, um, larger sets,
like on the spot, uh,
I think most of the females
are fine with the rest of the workout.
It's,
it could have been four legless rope
climbs almost for time with
twelve overhead squats and
you would get the winner almost, I think.
Yeah.
Unless I haven't tried the axle over.
I mean, it would be probably awkward to.
Cross fat ass.
Does axle matter besides
getting it overhead to start?
Yeah, I think it'll tax their grip.
Well, it doesn't matter at that point,
but their grip will be taxed.
So it's going to be awkward holding that.
If you can get a good shelf,
it can just kind of rest there.
If you can get a good shelf.
But to me, it is getting it up there.
Getting it up there is going
to tax your grip in
addition to all those rope climbs.
I don't know.
It's a good workout.
What's the time cap on that?
Eight?
Yeah.
It could be quick.
I don't know.
Is that the last workout?
Yeah, that's the last one.
The seventh one.
It's a nice little finale.
Is it like two, three, two?
Do you know the... I'm going
to assume... Three, two, two?
Two, three, two?
I'm going to assume that.
But I'm not sure.
I haven't looked at the,
I don't think we got a schedule yet.
Well, that's a fun finale one.
Cause if you blow up on the
legless and let's say you
miss your fourth rep, there can be your,
like your finale,
like your podium or big changes in the,
in the leaderboard,
you could do all the way up
and you'd have a huge hole
with legless or something.
Yep.
So, um,
He definitely makes sure
that you have to have your
strict deficit handstand pushups.
You have to have your leg lifts on.
It's not a big amount,
but just having the four on
the spot is a huge separator.
You have your ring muscle-ups.
So you do have some good
pieces of gymnastics that
you have to be proficient with.
You still got to be able to
move the heavy dumbbell deadlift.
no max lift, but I prefer that.
Yeah.
Especially in, in, in a,
in a weekend with like
seven events versus if you have like,
you know, eight to nine,
I'd say around like eight to nine,
you can start having a max lift,
but seven still not quite
enough that I think it
skews a little bit.
So I think it's great programming.
It's balanced.
It's got some cool stuff.
I'm looking forward to it.
There's a lot of great
athletes going there.
So.
I like it better than last
year's programming.
Yeah, it should be good.
Yeah,
they've filled up the men a little bit.
I guess I can share that real quick.
We shared the women, I think, last week.
so uh we have taylor self
announced sam stewart
justin rhodes matthias
porter jacob marlow uh
drake lewis tristan
harrison uh nick matthew
colton mertens and chris
ibarra nice yeah there's a
good good group of men good
group of women um the
compass you know people are
wanting to compete there yeah
Chris, that bar is a nice surprise.
Well, training partner is also there.
Oh, my gosh.
Olivia, course setter.
Oh, okay.
I think we went through all the women.
This I don't know.
I have no clue.
Because that P score or Z
score or whatever.
It was P. P score.
Yeah.
I think they are doing a
different scoring system.
I heard, um, Pedro Tyler, Tyler,
Tyler talking about it on a
barbell spin that he had
doing P score again, or he's changed.
He did not say what they were doing,
but that he was like
responsible for scoring.
So that means you're doing one of these,
right?
Yeah, Z or P for sure,
unless they came up with a
new scoring system that we
don't know about.
I did not like Z score.
I didn't like P score.
I don't even know which one I like better.
Having negative points makes
no sense to me.
That was P score.
That was Z. That was last year.
No, we did P last year.
I'm confused.
We did,
we did P scoring last year and
there was the zero points
for a lot of people.
It did not make sense.
Last year was, I did not care.
It was P scoring and it
didn't matter if you were,
if you're in like the
bottom four of an event,
you may have beat somebody
by twenty reps and you
still got zero points.
Same as them.
Like you didn't get rewarded
for your work that you did.
Yeah.
It was P score.
It was ugly.
I didn't like it.
Yeah.
And especially in the
master's division where
there was only like eight athletes.
You needed the scoring.
Right.
You needed like forty people
or thirty people to spread
it out enough where it made sense.
They should have just put us
in the main scoreboard so
that it made sense and then
pulled us out.
Like with our points afterwards.
CrossFit says Pez scoring.
Which I was still waiting for that.
Tyler had said he was going
to put together the whole scoreboard,
put the Masters in there,
and I never got that.
But, I mean,
it's a place to experiment if
you're going to do it.
And as long as the athletes
know going in that this is the scoring.
Sounds like they don't know.
Well, it wasn't an email that we got.
Like,
we received an email detailing the
flow of the events and the
standards and stuff like
that that JR sent out.
I don't recall anything on the scoring,
though.
Okay.
You're getting quite the fans tonight.
Yeah.
Something did spark me.
She's a married woman.
Thanks, Carolyn.
So on a different subject altogether,
I ended up watching the
Hiller video about the
woman who admitted she used
performance-enhancing drugs.
Oh, yes.
And him going through that and like...
I know so little about
performance enhancing drugs
compared to what these people know.
It was really fascinating to me,
this story of her and how
it stays in a woman's
system much longer than it
does a man's because they
don't need the testosterone.
So it was just fascinating.
But Hiller's always said
there's kind of like two
key signs if someone's using or not.
And that is the rounded
shoulder and the immediate up to the trap,
like in the elevated trap.
That is a key sign.
Can I tell you at MFC, I'm going, yep.
Nope.
Nope.
Yep.
Nope.
Just with that like little trigger thing.
I think it's hard to tell.
Cause a lot of people,
you can't even tell.
It depends what they're,
what they would be taking though.
I was just using the thick, the key.
He said,
that's like his first cue that he
looks for.
And I'm not saying I'm right or wrong,
but I'm saying just using that cue,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
like I would say, like I would say,
But again, MFC,
there were very few games athletes.
These are people just kind
of getting their feet wet
and all that kind of stuff.
So anyway.
It was a good podcast.
Yeah, he did a good video on that.
I just learned a lot.
And a lot of it was,
so it was both her and him
talking about it and her
being very open and about
how it affected her body,
how it stayed in her body.
That's been my biggest
complaint with this whole thing.
Like the,
some of those people that you know,
came from like power
lifting or bodybuilding.
Like she came from bodybuilding.
Right.
And you, you just can tell,
know that they were on it.
Like,
That's been my complaint with this sport.
And like,
especially the women when they
continue on and cross when they're like,
well, I'm clean now.
Like,
I feel like that's where we're at
with Pinero at this point.
Like,
I wish she would just admit that she
took things for years.
Sure.
You've passed multiple job
tests the last few years.
You might be clean now,
but your ceiling for lifts
went way above what like
I'll ever be able to compete with.
And that is unfair to me.
Oh, Tom Hardy, having a night tonight.
So yeah, just,
it was just an observation I
had after watching that
sitting in a competition.
And we've said like,
if it's going to be rampant,
it's going to be rampant in
the masters because
especially on the men's
side with just testosterone
and people having low T and,
and it being allowed to a certain level,
even in testing,
like all that kind of stuff.
And so I was just,
I was just kind of making
an observation that,
But I actually thought it would be higher.
And again,
this was just one sign that I
picked up from what Hiller
said and did it.
And it was about twenty percent.
I thought it would be a little bit higher.
So anyway.
Yeah.
That's all I have to say about that,
I guess.
I pulled up discount Tom Hardy.
You did not.
I did.
I went to go look at it.
I was curious.
I was curious, Tom.
Roast him.
He wants to be roasted.
Flexing.
Okay.
Nice muscles, Tom.
Nice muscles.
That's not roasting.
So, uh,
there's a good football game on tonight.
Bills and Ravens.
So I think I'm going to go
watch that as I go to bed.
All right.
Anything else you guys have to say?
It's kind of been a slow
week other than the smack
talk from Roman and everybody else.
I did talk to Emily about having her on.
She said she would come on.
I think she's still
vacationing a little bit.
But one,
I've never seen her talk smack
like that in my life.
And it was, I really enjoyed reading it.
And then like on the seventeenth one,
Kyle jumps in.
So that was fun.
But I want to talk to her just because,
you know,
winning third at the games this
year and what does that mean?
And,
and then the tier cup and she's had a
pretty eventful off season
and where she at going into next season.
Cause she's yeah.
I'm anxious to see like what
the difference is with the
older athletes and the younger athletes.
Yeah.
too um so I'd like to get
some take on that and I
haven't really been doing a
lot of interviews lately so
I think it's time to kind
of ramp those back up as
things slow down and rogue
comes we'll have an excuse
to pull some people in for
that and uh and tear cup we
can talk to some people
about that but with that
don't forget to like and
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Whatever they're doing.
Trying to distract us from
our discussions.
Trolling.
Last thing.
CrossFit said there's...
There's some prominent
Games females who've
certainly dabbled in past lives.
Again, I don't know nothing about nothing.
I just was using one of his
tips to see kind of what I thought.
And I would never name names
because I am not
knowledgeable enough to do that.
Yeah.
With that being said,
we will see everybody next
week on Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
All right.
Bye, guys.
Bye.