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More Than We See is a grounded, practical conversation about intuition as a human sense and capacity.
Hosted by Natalie of Immersive Spirit, this podcast blends lived experience, nervous-system–informed insight, and real-world tools to help people better understand how perception, sensitivity, and intuition are experienced—and how to work with them in everyday life across kids, teens, families, and adults.
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I had a reading recently. Guy came in I'm gonna call him He wanted to know what I was picking up around his career. What timeline I was seeing for the positive changes that he could just feel in his life? What he'd actually be good at like fulfilled by. So I went in and I started pulling information.
That I was getting from Spirit And part way through he stopped me and he's like, Where is this information coming from And I told him when information comes from guides, I typically get a tap on the side of my left head. And for ancestors, I typically get it on the right side of my head. When it's coming from his energy field like know the psychic stuff that comes in it feels a little different. The timeline piece was definitely from his guides but the work it the passion was coming from him. And that was it.
That was the door that Nathan needed because the next question was How do you talk…to guides and how can I talk to them myself? And honestly that's where a lot of my readings go eventually. And sometimes over time sometimes in the same one, Nathan just got there faster than most. Welcome back to more than we see I'm Natalie. And today we are talking about guides.
So a fair amount of folks come to me and just want a reading They want to hear from someone that they've lost or they wanna know what I'm picking up like Nathan did and they never ask…
how do I do it or whether they can do it themselves. And that's completely valid. That's not a lesser version of this work but Nathan's…not the only one who's asked me this And if you've ever wondered about your own guides such as how you hear them, or how to know when they're there or whether you're doing it wrong, That is what today's podcast is all about. So about nine years ago, I was in a period of a really focused development. So I was aligned with a group from a city that's kinda near my Good people through his practitioners, and we were meeting daily for about a week.
And everyone who was having experiences like big ones of vivid detail like all of these layers and they were coming in each day with these stories that you could just feel the energy around. Now I wanna be clear about who I was at that point Because I had already been seeing spirits for years like since I was a little girl, hauntings and presences, and things that showed up uninvited. So this is not new territory for me. But talking to my guides felt different like that felt a lot more personal to me…
Like there's some type of relationship, and I didn't know the etiquette or maybe the rules, rather. So I was trying all of the different approaches, the meditations, the visualizations, the structured asks, watching for the signs that I thought I was supposed to get. And one afternoon, I was just taking a break sitting in my backyard. Nothing formal about it just literally being outside. And if you've been around for a while on this podcast, yes it's my backyard in And apparently that's just where I land.
So two names though came and popped into my head…not a vision not a voice, from somewhere else just two names. And I knew. I just knew. And then uh immediately, I felt a little silly because everyone else in that group was having these organized significant moments and I got two names in a backyard…
Nothing I could bring to the room with a big story like everybody else's. But they were real, and they always have been real. And how close I came to filing it away, because it didn't arrive the way that I thought it should or the way the others were getting it. So here's what I see over and over People work so hard to connect with their guides. They read the books They do the meditations.
Like me, They wait for the moment that looks like the moment that they've seen described somewhere else. And in doing all of that, we walk right past what's already arriving. Like I did, the problem isn't that people can't connect…is that what they're receiving doesn't match the version…that is expected. So we discount it Right We just…
waiting for something louder to pop in or we must be doing it wrong so we start over. But our guides they'll just keep showing up And that relationship is real. It just doesn't look like what we see in the movies Or what some of the places we've been saying. So I'm gonna give you something practical here We're gonna talk through four doorways. Not necessarily as a protocol I don't want another checkbox for you but just four different places where people get stuck and a way through each one of them…
Take what fits, leave what doesn't. Like don't press yourself through these things So the first doorway especially the person who's waiting for something dramatic. If you've been in development spaces for any time you've heard the big stories that I'm talking about The visions and the clear voices and the unmistakable signs that some folks get And those things do happen I'm not gonna tell you they don't. But I don't think they're the standard I think most people over time build a story that is more ripe than where it once started So…you know that's not normally what ongoing guide communication is gonna look like. Most of it is kinda quiet just a sense knowing a word that is just gonna surface…
If you've been waiting for that dramatic version and nothing like that has come through, pay attention to maybe what has come through because the quiet version counts too. If you wanna start building that relationship, deliberately, I want you to try this. I want you to create a white room in your mind. Nothing in it except two chairs and a light. Invite one guide Don't ask any big questions Just ask, what do you wish I understood about how you communicate?
And then just notice. Do you see clothing Is there a posture energy distance taps on your body, whether anything is said. When it feels done, leave the room without forcing it The goal is not a conversation. The goal is just familiarity. The second doorway is for the person who says nothing is coming through…
nine times out of ten something is coming through. But…we've often decided what receiving looks like And so we scan for that specific thing. While everything else arrives unnoticed. So…
We don't have a dominant intuitive channel So try to pay attention try to learn that about yourself But some people feel things in their body and some get images and some people hear words or names or sentences that arrive. Some people simply know the way that I knew in the backyard without being able to explain how. So…if you've been trying to see something, but you actually are nowhere. Then you're going to keep coming up empty, not because there's nothing there but because you're trying to pay attention to the wrong sense. Instead of trying to force a channel that isn't yours, start cataloguing…what is arriving.
Invite…everything. Invite your guides to help you to find their personalities and energies. Give each guide their own index card. Like you can start with one card or five cards or ten cards. And if you don't know their name yet and oftentimes, names aren't you know kind of the thing for them That's just how we talk to them.
Start with what you have So if you have guide one guide two, or the one that feels warm or the one that shows up when things seem to be getting hard. On these index cards label it something even if it's temporary. Every interaction adds something to that cart When you sense anything, write it down like a color or a feeling or a body signal or an image that keeps showing up. Over the months these cards are gonna become personality profiles. And what felt like nothing when you started is a whole lot of consistent information now and you can start determining…
like how many guides you have, which leads me to our third doorway. Which is for the person who feels like They might have one more guide. They can't tell them apart. So maybe doorway two felt a little strange because you can't quite put differences on you can't get them on an index card. I want you to try this.
And this is actually one of the most common places that people get stuck because If everything feels like one undifferentiated…presence it's hard to know if you're working with one guide or several or just your own intuition talking back…So I want you to set physically or otherwise three chairs And invite your guides to join you after grounding yourself clearing your energy and connecting like inviting guide or spirits, and protecting the defined boundaries such as only what is good for me So then I want you to sit in that first share and say aloud to yourself guide one, and just sit…Notice what happens in your body or your breathing or your posture, how you're holding your shoulders what emotions come up what thoughts arrive, words, anything, and then I want you to journal it and move. And sit in the second chair. Guide two Same thing Notice everything that's different from the first chair. Then do the third chair if it feels right More chairs if you want. Most people are surprised by how distinct each seat wheels.
The shifts aren't always dramatic but they're usually that…
One chair might feel expansive. Another might feel more contained one might bring up clarity another might feel softer…
You're just noticing what changes when you move between chairs. The fourth doorway is one that I think is probably most common. You received something. It was quiet It was clear. And then your brain showed up.
That was probably just me. I wanted it to be real so I made it up. That seems too simple. I don't know how to verify this…It's not the inability to connect That's the connection happening and then it gets talked out of two out of existence because that doubt arise or at least the analysis kicks in or you start asking your questions. I want you to try this I want you to write a letter dear guide and then ask one question.
What do I wish? I trusted more And then write? Don't edit don't stop Don't read back over it while you're going. Just keep your pen moving. And when you're done, go back through and highlight anything that surprises you.
Anything that doesn't sound like your normal voice. Anything…maybe also…that answers a question that you didn't even know you were asking. You're not looking for proof here You're looking for the thing that arrived before your brain have a chance to argue with it…
So all of that is the deeper work And some of you are going to love it and go straight through those door ways. But Nathan also asked me something simpler…
How do I even know that they're there at all And for that I wanna give you something that you can try today with no setup no chairs no indent Cards. I want you to pick something specific, a pink jeep…two ducks crossing your path a red door Any anything that comes to mind but it needed to be something specific enough…that you'd notice it but not so common that it's gonna show up every five seconds as your dry and down the road or walk you know what I mean. It's gotta be specific and kind of unique. Then ask your guides something specific like if I am on the right path…or if…
I'm supposed to do this or that or anything that that is outstanding for you and then I want you to go live your day. And here is why this works. What you're doing is giving yourself a specific enough frame that when something arrives, you are going to catch it. We receive signals constantly Most of them pass right through because we're not tracking anything particular. This just gives you something to track.
I did this myself years ago I was making a decision that felt enormous at the time I was starting to share my spiritual path mediumship intuition, which is All thing is that it became immersive spirit We just turned three this year So This was probably five or six years ago, but it was in a way…that I felt completely vulnerable. And I was putting everything behind it So I wanted that confirmation. So I asked, and I picked a purple car And I live in an area where purple cars, they are just not a thing I mean, would say that they're pretty rare. It took six days. But six days later I saw one.
And I still…
see one at least once a month And I don't I'm not out of my house very often because they work from home…
Um so I'd say I probably see one once a month it was really funny…that we were talking about this today because I saw one today with my sister and I were out in an event…
So It's really interesting And it's a different car every time Kia chargers teslas corvette Slamborghinis. Today's was a challenger, and I think they actually make some of those purple by choice So it's probably a stock purple So maybe that's not as unique. But still I saw one today. And every time it makes me smile, not because I needed the proof anymore, because…it became the ongoing converse station the nudge or the pat on the back And I realized that it isn't always a sign but often there is a feeling of knowing now that comes with it. So the pink sheep isn't proof It's practice.
You're building a language And like any language the more you use it the more fluent your gonna get. So let's rebuff the band aid on the second biggest question. That I get…after how do I connect? It's how do I know that I'm not making this up? And honestly, sometimes you don't and sometimes you can't.
I don't think trust comes from proving where a thought came from I think it comes from watching what happens next. The meaningful things tend to return. They come once. Then they come again. Not louder just consistently.
And eventually you stopped asking it did I make this up And you start asking, why does this keep showing up? That's how the relationship builds Not through one extraordinary moment but it's more like through hundreds of really ordinary ones. You show up you pay attention, you notice what stays consistent. And over time you begin to recognize each other. And over time you'll also start to feel the difference between the pull and the push.
And the pull is when you're being drawn into something that's information. It arrives just like…
your receiving end and the push is your own energy your own wants moving towards something that you're hoping to hear. That distinction gets clearer The longer you work with it. You don't have to have it all figured out at the beginning. It really isn't about certainty. You just have to say curious enough to not dismiss the quiet things that show up…
Before figuring out where everything leads. Almost every reading I do has some element of guide communication. And most of the time the person sitting across from me is in treat by something that they're experiencing. You know like the dream that wouldn't leave or the pull away from something that looked good on paper or the thought of somebody that was calling them Like you think about them right before the phone rings. Those aren't coincidence.
It's a language. Notice your world and learn to speak it And I'll see you next time I'm more than we can see