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Pack and Brett sit down and talk about the type of collecting that happens when you stop fearing price tags and start trusting your instincts.

We get into the mindset shift that lets you land cards you once thought were out of reach. We talk Derrick Henry, early Superfractors, cracked ice autos, Phoenix parallels, and why certain cards feel timeless. We cover auctions, comps, and what these sales say about the football card market right now. We break down why collectors hit turning points when they learn how to maneuver, trade, and sell to chase the right cards. We close by sharing how our collections have evolved this year and what that says about focus, identity, and what you want your box to say back to you.


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Brett, how you doing? I'm doing well. Been spending some time this week looking at all of my pickups from 2025. And I remember starting this venture about this time last year and saying to myself, you know what?

Like, this is gonna be fun working on a hobby business full time, but it'll probably take some funds out of my, card buying because I'll be focusing on the business. And my pickups won't be as exciting as they were the year before.

And, boy, was I wrong? It's funny. The cards just take over no matter what. You morph into scenarios where you can pick up the cards you want when you get the opportunity.

So I'm actually and maybe before the end of the year, what we could do around it, but I feel pretty damn good about where my collection is right now.

And I know you have a question towards the end of the episode where we kinda talk about that further. But, yeah, I'm feeling good. I'm I'm proud of my collection. So that's good. Yeah. We'll dig into the, specifics of that later.

But it is interesting how if the right card shows up, there's always a way to get it. There's always a way to make it happen somehow. And it it's amazing. Can do that for cards and not necessarily other aspects of my life always.

Where it's like, now we're getting into holiday shopping. I'm like, oh my gosh. This is how much this stuff costs? Okay. Anyways, I'm back to buying. Let me buy this card over here for hundreds of dollars.

Don't don't don't you think that at least this was for me, it felt like almost this breakthrough when I realized that there are levels to this, obviously, when price is a constraint.

But when I realized that the cards that seemed overwhelming and big to me could be had if I maneuvered like, when I had that breakthrough in my return to collecting, to that was maybe the most important milestone I I passed was, like, I should not be intimidated if this card that I really love and I have a connection to that's really expensive is available.

I should think about ways that I can make this happen. And I feel like people who are getting back in the cards right now, and when you get back in the cards, you just don't understand.

You see all these individuals with just incredible collections. You're like, how did they do this? But I don't know. That's where I kinda lean on, like, you gotta experience it for yourself.

You gotta go through those trials and tribulations. But when you reach that point when the the price of a card isn't intimidating and you're questioning how you go about making it happen, like, that's when you know.

Like, when you're when you're willing to go above all odds to land a card and you're willing to sacrifice cards.

Like, that's to me, that's, like, the mark of knowing, like, that card that you did all that for is the right card for your collection.

Yeah. And it just takes time. Like, the old time in the market, not timing the market, but, like, those intimidating cards become less intimidating after you spent two years buying a bunch of different things that you're testing out.

And then over those couple years, you've honed in on what you like, and then a big card from that becomes available so you can sell a bunch of other stuff that you didn't have before.

And then you do that year over year, and suddenly you get hopefully one of those collections that yeah. Sometimes I see people's collections, and I'm like, how did you do this?

Like, how did you and it's like, oh, they spent decades, like, so much time acquiring these pieces, buying other things, selling things, buying things when there was a low point in the market and then selling things high.

And not that they're necessarily focused on that and gaming that. It's just there's stuff that I bought two years ago that's way up that I wasn't buying because I thought it was down.

It was just I just kept buying cards consistently over the past five years. So when you're in a downturn, you don't really know, but you're still getting the cards then.

And then I probably bought some cards that were way overpriced, at points too. So yeah. You just gotta gotta spend time, chip away. All these collections will turn into what we want them to be.

Yes. And I like I said, like, I think this year feels like a year where I'm seeing more people post their cards and that's usually what happens when the market is hot. But, yeah, it feels like I'm not alone.

There's a lot of people out there that is are creating collections and sharing them. And I love seeing those, like, you know, five to seven posts of just cards on Instagram every day that I'm like, good good good for that guy or gal.

Like, way to go. Like, I know you like that player on that set, and you probably been hunting that card for a while, like and now you got it.

Like, I'm I'm always cheering cheering on other people as they're building their collection. If I whether I do it publicly or not, I'm like, that fires me up when people get the cards that they've been striving for.

Yes. I love seeing cards, and I love seeing collections. I don't love seeing blocks of text when I'm going through. What unless it's, like a stacking slabs episode promotion.

Of course. Of course. Letting me know what I'm about to listen to. Yeah. But if it's just some opinion on something going on in the hobby, I'm not trying to read that. I'm not trying to read all these words.

I'm just trying to look at cards. A lot of opinions and you know what my opinion is, John? My opinion is football cards rule, and so does football. And we've got a podcast about that. So I feel like let's let's talk about it.

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There there's a couple good ones that stand out. I'll say the first one that jumped out to me is personally Matt Forte of Chicago Bears fame. Couple years with the jets, but I'm claiming him as a Chicago bear.

But beyond that, you know, it was kind of, twenty two's kind of dry out there. But, who jumped out to you, Brett? I was thinking about this, and I think the first nostalgic name that came to my mind was Emmitt Smith.

But I didn't we've talked to I feel like we've talked about Emmitt Smith a little bit, and we haven't talked about Derrick Henry enough.

And Derrick Henry is quite the back. Derrick Henry is a throwback to the back. Mhmm. The bell cow. And I as a Colts fan, we had to play Derrick Henry twice a year for his entire career until he moved to Baltimore.

And just, you know, a a player that's, to me, always done things the right way from a perspective of, like, his, like, off season training videos and program is one that gets traction publicly, taking care of himself.

And that's why I, like, see players like Derrick Henry, like, busting through the threshold of, like, a productive back and a timetable. And then I see these workout videos, and I'm always questioning.

It's like, is this just, like, guys, like, break down and they they they quit taking care of themselves? And so that's why the the shelf life of a back, is lower and lower each year or the perception of it is.

Because, like, I look at what Derrick Henry does, like, running up mountains of sand and, like, he's got, like, weights attached to every inch of his body, box jump.

And I'm like, this guy is just working his ass off. So I cheer for guys like that.

I think too, Derrick Henry is dude, everything about him just seems screams like a great dude. There's a player and I I haven't tracked this before, but there's a player that like, in from Indiana, small school.

Knox County, I believe, is high school football. We're talking here on the Football Card podcast. This kid is trying to break the all time nationwide, rushing record across the country.

And he's, like, within within distance, like, before the end of this year. But he just recently passed Derrick Henry on the list. And Derrick Henry, like, went out of his way to, like, cheer this kid on and, like, congratulate him.

Like, what a good dude. So I think Derrick Henry is a phenomenal player. I think Derrick Henry is 100% a hall of fame player digging into some stats. So, currently, he's fifteenth all time in rushing. This year, he will pass.

You know, granted he plays and is he's like the he's like a few yards away from each of these guys, but he's gonna pass Marcus Allen, Edron James, Marshall Faulk, and Jim Brown this this season on the all time list, which I think will put him at 10 all time rushing.

So for as good as he is, and we're, like, in this era of, like, air attack and receivers, it just it feels like Derrick Henry deserves a little air time. Absolutely.

He's someone that I don't know why I have never collected because he checks all the boxes as far as a running back that I think it was just because when I got he was already so popular running for 2,000 that I I it was or just too expensive.

But, yeah, he's right behind he's 13 yards behind Marcus Allen, 26 yards behind or 16 yards behind Edgerrin, 50 some behind Marshall Faulk.

He'll pass all those guys maybe in one game. That'd be and then on the touchdown front, I think he's, he's climbing that too. He's in the top 15.

He's at 14 with a 118 touchdowns. And, Larry Fitzgerald ahead of him at one twenty one. Jerry Rice, two zero eight. That's crazy. Every time I see that, that's crazy. 208 touchdowns. That yeah. That'll that's, impossible to, replicate.

I'm trying to pull this up because I always love this. We're on the topic here. If I can find yes. I was able to find this in real time. So just this is one of my favorite pickups ever. This is Brian Lindquist.

Oh, yeah. Or it's just grabbing the Derrick Henry black finite one of one, which is I'm not listening to any argument that tells me there's a better card of Derrick Henry than this one. This is the Derrick Henry holy grail.

And I just I I pulled this up because I I can't see this card enough. This this card is just in incredible. But I I think about this world we live in in collecting where because of Instagram, we know where the best cards reside.

And, you know, Brian's collection's insane. And this, like, he puts in his post, no other acquisition in my collection has proven to be as challenging as the Derrick Henry black finite for me.

It took all my card knowledge, creativity, financial resources, patient, conviction to obtain this card last fall.

And it's like, this this this this card was, you know, it was edited fourteen weeks ago, this post, it looks like. But this is card he's had this card in his collection for, you know, well over a year.

And it's just like, the thought he put into obtaining this card. And then can you imagine what this card would do if this card went for auction now? And, like, we're not even gonna talk about the number.

We don't need to pull up the number. Like, you can go look in card ladder, but I promise you, whatever the number is, this card would blow past it just based on the way the market has gone around finite.

So I just think stuff like that is cool, and it felt like an opportunity based on the Derrick Henry chat to highlight a great collector in a card.

Yeah. This card is unreal. It would yeah. I'm I'm looking up since it's available on card ladder.

27,000 last October is Oh, wow. Sold price for this. The Saquon recently sold for 43, I think. Somewhere in that range. So which Saquon, great back. But if you put Saquon's career next to Derrick Henry's, it's not even close.

I don't know if people would even get there. Like, thinking about that because the perception is Saquon is so prolific, but there's injuries that have hurt that and you know?

So but yeah. I mean, Derrick Henry is kind of in this era. I'd have to, like we need to do comparative analysis on, like, Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry.

Like, how, like but that would be interesting. But Derrick Henry, I feel like right now just kinda sits in this island of his own when we're talking about backs from this era. Right. Yeah.

I mean, Saquon's at 7,800 rushing yards. Derrick Henry's at 12,000. Yeah. Grant granted well, Henry only came in two years before Saquon, and Henry didn't even really start until his third year 2018, which was Saquon's rookie year.

So you take out even if you eliminated Henry's first two years from his stats and just went twenty eighteen on the same as Saquon, Henry's over 11,000 rushing yards. He's just been it's consistent.

He's got one of the pro football pages that I like. Lots of big numbers in a row. And rushing for over 1,900 yards twice in a career is insane. I wish he would've got two k last year. 19 he ended at nineteen twenty one.

So close. That's what I I want, final thing on Derrick Henry that I wanted to bring up. I don't know if he felt this way, but and I don't know what this says about him. This guy played with the Titans his entire career.

Obviously, played with the is currently on the Ravens, played with the Ravens last year. I'll never forget turning on the TV last year when the Ravens were playing. The the first time I saw them, which I maybe they started the season.

I can't remember. It was early. I I remember watching a Ravens game. I remember, like, Lamar getting the offense lined up and, like, them having the aerial shot and, like, Derrick Henry's, like, lining up in the backfield.

And I'm looking at this and I'm like, why does it feel like Derrick Henry has been a raven for ten years? I don't like I'm like, he it was like he I've never, like, seen a player just, like, fit more into a organization and in a team.

And we all knew when the Ravens got Derrick Henry, we all knew how good it was gonna turn out. It was like, oh, gosh. Derrick Henry gets to play with the Ravens now.

So I just think I don't know what that says about him, but, he he's a he's a fun player to watch week in and week out. Yeah. That's one of those because sometimes when a player switches teams, it's like, oh, they they don't look right.

The jersey looks wrong. Him and a Ravens jersey just felt very natural. That might be the Raven's jerseys are sick. But even seeing, like, Steve Smith, Steve Smith senior, like, in a Raven's jersey is weird to me.

Or or, like, Anquan Bolden either. Like, some of those guys that ended up in a Raven. So it's not the jersey always, but, yeah, Derrick Henry and Lamar, that would be a I I haven't picked up the sticks to play Madden in a long time.

That'd be a fun team to rock. Yeah. Raven, that would be a a top team for me to play with. You know what what player I can't get used to in their new threads is is Aaron Rodgers.

It literally throws every time I see him in Steelers gear. It it's like the record scratch. I'm like, oh, yeah. He's on the Steelers, and it's just it I can't get used to that one.

I just can't. No. And now he's ducking the bears. He's scared scared to play in the soldier. The shame to see how he's going out bad. But, also shout out Miles McLaughlin.

That's the the Knox running back who There you go. I searched Where's he at on the list now? So he broke the record, on Friday, November 15. Miles McLaughlin ran 52 times for 372 yards and four touchdowns.

For Knox breaking the national record for single season rushing touchdowns and yards. The this everybody go if you like football, especially if you like high school football, go look up this kid on YouTube.

This kid plays everything. He's, like, playing quarterback, running. I mean, it's it it is I've never seen a team reliant so much on one player, but, obviously, his stats show it.

But it's it's unreal. It's been a fun little local storyline to follow, and I'm sure he's gonna win mister football. And, I've seen, like, some offers he get with gets which are, like, you know, like, mid, like I don't know.

Like, maybe some max goals or stuff like that, but it's like, it just it just it's it's it's fun to to watch a player just, like, break records and so especially in in the home state.

Yeah. I remember seeing a couple weeks ago something about this where it's like he needs to average 200 yards a game over the next four games to break the record.

I'm like, wow. That's a tall ask. And then I see that he ran for three seventy two in one.

It's like, okay. But he's doing parries. Dude, yeah. If you like we broke his games down line by line. It's astonishing. And And it was like, he's been, like, doing that his entire high school career.

It's like, it's astonishing. It's like, how are that how's there that much time in the game for this guy to do this? Yeah. And that Derrick Henry had that record.

Like, normally, I feel like some of these, big rushing records, even at, like, the college level or some, like, kinda d two guy who played, like it's not always, like, the best player ever who has all the numbers, but Henry has, like, his high school, college, and then career stats, like, combined are insane.

That dude has ran for so many yards. To where this is I'm taking this back to Miles McLaughlin, taking this back to the hobby.

If there wasn't on the sideline when that record was broken, if there wasn't some representation from Leaf sitting there trying to ink this kid right on the spot for some autos out of some Leaf product, like, what are you doing?

Like, this is this I'm buying I'm a buyer one of those. Like like, sign me up.

I know. Does he have anything on eBay? Does he have does he have a kaboom yet? I'm sure it's it's coming soon. Wow. Yeah. Panini instant. His high school kid shattering records. But, Yeah. That's that's fun. Who, just a quick question.

Indiana football high school football question. Because I know you were in you played. You're involved. Oh, team team captain. Yeah. Let's go. Who's the toughest or, like, most notable player you cross paths with?

Because Cathedral played good teams. This is a great question. So there's two players that come right to my mind. Number one was James Banks. James Banks was the quarterback of Ben Davis. He went on to play at Tennessee quarterback.

His it never really worked out. He might have gotten some trouble at Tennessee. I don't know. But, dude, it was like, I felt like I was playing against an NFL player. He he was unbelievable. So him and then I'll give a shout out.

He's actually on he played football at Notre Dame. He, played and then he coached at IU, left, went to James Madison, is now back on the IU staff. I'll give a shout out to my man, Pat Coons. Pat Coons played at Roncalli.

And Pat Coons and I played against each other our whole he's the south sider. I was the north sider. He went to Saint Barnabas. I went to Saint Pius Cathedral Roncalli. Dude, by the time we were seniors, Pat Koontz was dominant.

He played the line. He played defensive tackle in college, but he also played offensive tackle. And, dude, he was a man child. He just by the time we were seniors, he kicked my ass.

And so I always his technique was unreal. So shout out Pat Coons. He's a great dude. We run into each other. He's a family guy, and he's coaching the number two team in the country right now.

Wow. I remember good old Noblesville just getting smoked by some of those Carmel teams. The Billers. Oh, yeah. But when Carmel had Morgan Newton, who was a quarterback and went on to I think he played at Purdue.

Or no, Jordan Brewer was their tight end who played Purdue. Morgan Newton was their quarterback, went to Kentucky. And then Aaron King, their running back, who went to Ball State actually.

But just three d oneers on offense. It's like you'd go again you'd watch that team play, and it looked like a totally different sport versus Yeah. Good old Millers. Unreal. I I it's still like high school football.

It's like it still blows my mind that, like, not too long ago, I was watching Terry McLaren, like, catch touchdowns and win win state championship chips and win mister football at my high school.

And then, you know, he's, you know, one of the top 10 best player receivers in the NFL. It's just it's wild to watch like a kid's journey from high school all the way to the NFL.

Yeah. Let's get do we need to get to a game? A little Friday night lights? Football card pod? You know, I I was excited until my Irish got beat against NewPal and now they got knocked out.

Maybe next season, we'll we'll get involved. Maybe we'll get some spawn maybe we should sponsor, Operation Football here locally. Dave Calabrio. Hit us up. Okay. Episode 22. I think we have a new release to talk about.

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Go visit them at haystack. tech. We're talking Phoenix football. We talk about Chromium products, I believe, one of these episodes, but talk about Select Select Optic and Prism.

And we didn't mention, Phoenix. But Phoenix is that. Phoenix is a chromium based product. I would say it's usually on the lower end of that totem pole, but I it has been around for quite a while.

The this product is out. Hobbybox, you're getting an a rookie auto, memorabilia auto, a memorabilia card, six inserts, 12 parallels, 12 base rookies.

But, yeah, I always, like I I know that this product has an audience, and I think that audience is more directed at younger and kids who just wanna rip some packs because the boxes are typically pretty affordable, and you're getting cool cards.

Like, I know I've seen my nephews ripping blashers of Phoenix, and really enjoying them. So the thing that stood out to me about this product was when I looked at the parallels. And you wanna say we're at the end.

So I'm gonna I'm scrolling here, but wanna say we're at the end of the panini era. Like, look at how many parallels are in this product. I mean, I'm just continuing to scroll. I should've kinda but then there are ten one of ones, dude.

That's If you have ten one ones, you have none. We've got a black, a black hyper, black lava, black laser, black mojo, black Pandora, black pyramids, black seismic, black winter in the celestial. Okay. I kinda like it. I'm a zag.

I like it. You know, it's you know, why, like, why I kinda like it is that if this product's intended audience are younger, who want shiny cards and giving them the opportunity to potentially pull a one of one, like, that's I'm cool.

I'm cool with that. That's that's okay with me. Yeah. Why not? And, like, if this again, there's something very fun about getting into a product collecting a set where maybe the ceiling isn't astronomical.

Like, if the Mahomes black one of one from that is like, I'm looking up the highest selling Phoenix cards of all time and, black Dustin Herbert?

No. Oh, yes. I see that. The patch or, like, the shield. 16,200 now. Yeah. But scrolling down, I saw where was it? I saw a Patrick Mahomes. '27 an annual of Mahomes that sold recently.

Or wait. This says That was a mosaic. Sorry. I'm mixing up my product. But even I guess my point being that, like, a Mahomes black is, like, yeah, several thousand dollars, which is very expensive.

Don't get me wrong. But if you're able to get into a set where the highest most expensive card is, like, a few thousand dollars, I bet you can have a lot of fun collecting all sorts of good play like, you okay.

If his black is that much, I bet he's got a cool gold out of 10 that's relatively affordable.

So, you know, everyone has their own price points and limitations, and these cards do look cool. So if it's, you know, if it speaks to you, go for it.

This card looks six. This is what you have pulled up. It's a Phoenix CJ Stroud gold one of one. Yeah. Yeah. I think there are definitely worst looking products, and I know Phoenix debuted, I think, last year in basketball, too.

So their Phoenix is getting a little ripple effect. But it's fun when a I think a product starts in football and starts to branch off into other sports.

But, yeah, it's it's not the worst product. It's actually pretty cool, and I I feel like it serves a pretty, pretty good purpose in the hobby.

Yeah. That that right there, that card looks like Mosaic, though. Like, if you if you just swap that Phoenix logo with Mosaic logo, that's a Mosaic card. It it does.

But, yes, to your point of yeah. The all those parallels, not for me, but then, yeah, you think of a young kid, like, ripping open a box and pulling any numbered card is probably very exciting to a a kid. So, like, I can't knock it.

Maybe we close this out by trying to I I would love like, how do you talk like, think about your older think about your you're showing your cards to your grandkids and, you know, you're explaining one of ones and then your kid your grandkids are super into the hobby and they're going back on, like, cardboard connection and they, like, stumble across 2025 Phoenix and they're like they're like, grandpa, like, why is there ten one of ones in this product?

Like, shouldn't there only be one one of one?

Like, how would you explain that to them? Yeah. That's a very good question. Panini trying to make money, little Timmy, is what that is about. I don't know. That's why I do love the simplicity of Prism.

Prism, I have explained to, like, my wife of, like, there's a bunch of cards that look like this, then there's the same cards that there are only 10 of, and then there's a version there's only one of.

And that's very simple and easy to explain when you get into, okay, there's only one of this one, and then there's also only one of this one.

Yeah. I I don't know the answer. Like, especially when their names like black lava and black pyramids. Like, I gotta see what one of these black pyramids cards even looks like.

Are we more okay. So it it without a shadow of a doubt, it is understood that the premium parallel in prism is the black finite. Now what else has happened? There's been the addition of the black stars, the black shimmer.

We've seen Nebula pop up last year. You know, 2012, we've talked about the the pylons. Is is it because it is so established that the finite is the one of one? Are we more accepting of the additional one of ones because of that?

It's a good question. And honestly, I also didn't think about the orange pylons in my 2012 example. Like, there is another one of one, but I guess that was acquired in a totally different means, which is a way to differentiate it.

I don't know. Yeah. That's a good like, I don't know enough about Phoenix to look at that list of ten one o ones and say which one is the best one of one or has the longest in legacy.

I there's one that's just black that is the one I'd gravitate towards. Well, what's crazy what this will validate what you're talking about.

This pulling this back up. This CJ Stroud is the gold one of one, but if you look at 2025, there is no gold one of one. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. What are you guys doing? Exactly. But I'm I'm a simple man.

The less words, the better. If it's just like black one of one or gold one of one, great. If it's black no huddle scope one of one, it's too many words. Too many words. Just give me a color, and then give me a number.

I love that. Yes. Simplicity. We we don't need to be maneuvered by based on positioning or messaging in our cards. Like, we can decide. And you know what we decide? Less words means better cards.

I I still can't find a Black Pyramids card. I need to see what one of these If you if you pulled a Black Pyramids from Phoenix, post it, tag the football card pod, be hidden in a break. We wanna see this. Help us out.

Or is this product out yet? Maybe. Is that my problem? No. I think it's out. Yeah. It's out? Okay. Nothing's hit. There's no sales of a 2025 Phoenix, Black Pyramids, or Celestial yet, which I'm gonna maybe start some safe searches.

Because I always I always love and appreciate a new, like, pattern when I can see a new you know, like we know the finite.

We know what an extractor looks like. We know like the scope pattern. So pyramids, if they've got some triangles geometry in there, I'm intrigued.

I I am too. Shout out to our good friends at Haystack for sponsoring this segment. Go visit them at haystack. tech. Should we move over to the the MarketWatch of it all? Let's do it. Let's talk about some card sales. Alright.

Shout out Card Ladder for sponsoring MarketWatch. We would not be able to do this segment without them. This card this happened from my scrolling, which I tend to do, and I finally reached a point where I'm finally like, alright.

That's enough scrolling in sales data from eBay through Cardliner. But I came across this card, and this is very interesting to me. And this is the 2,005 tops draft picks and prospects, Brett Favre, black Superfractor one of one.

This went for auction November 12, and it sold for $6,850. John, when you look at this card, is there is there anything specifically about this card or your knowledge of this card that stands out to you?

Not really. No. It's an early super factor, 2005. I mean, that's the first year of finest super factors.

So this is definitely a very early super factor for Brett Favre. Yes. So when I saw this sale, I am went back and, you know, what we're what we do here is we plug our stuff. I plugged in early or I went and I was like, this rang a bell.

So I went and searched the Patreon because I was like, I think this and I found this article that I wrote a long time ago, and it was about super fractures have a debut debut year too.

And I Mhmm. I I I dug into the baseball side, but then moved it over into football. And I found out that these were the very first super factors in football from this product, tops, draft picks, and, prospects.

And what I'm sharing on the or I'm not sharing on the screen. I should probably be sharing on the screen, if I wasn't already.

There's the Favre. But then here's the Aaron Rodgers, and he's in his Cali form. The I think I took this from a message board because I cited the, the user, the blowout user.

Yep. Pejk three 100, but he had the Aaron Rodgers. He had the it's called Gold Superfractor on the Beckett label, but then he's also got the backdoor copy.

So he's got the missing serial number and the backdoor. This is Aaron Rodgers rookie super factor. He's in a Cal uniform, but this is a pretty cool card. And then so I just was, like, connecting these dots and was like, well well, damn.

Somebody knew that this Brett Favre was the first Brett Favre super fracture, and they went nuts. And if it's not the first Brett Favre super fracture, let me know.

But based on what I my research and digging in the bowels of message boards, that's what I uncovered. But I don't know, man. This is like the tribal knowledge, the stuff that's in people's heads.

And where is this information? You don't know this information unless you're, like, on an exploration trying to learn. So that's a little bit about this product and why I think this card sold for almost $7,000.

Yeah. And so I'm looking on trading card database and under parallels, there's, like, the chrome, the chrome black refractor, the chrome gold refractor, and then chrome gold super factor, one of one, and then a bunch of printing plates.

But this far listing said black super fracture. So is that is this a backdoor or is this one numbered one zero one or, like, I guess, what are the like, seeing that two side by side, that picture of the two Rogers side by side.

One of them you said is not serial numbered and one of them is? Yes. So this is where okay. I'm gonna take my my my my best guess. And any of you football card historians out there, you help me help us understand this.

We will post all of this if you have the right information. This is what I gather. And it might not be 100% accurate, but this is what I gather. I gather that they were called black super fractures from a product perspective.

But since this was a new thing, when they got submitted to the grading to, like, Beckett and the grading companies, they were referred to as gold, like lost interpretation, which happens sometimes.

So that's my best guess. But what what we're showing on the screen, this Aaron Rodgers and then this sale with the Brett Favre, this is the same this is the same parallel. Yeah. It's just the the label, the naming convention.

But if I spent way too much time on this, like, months ago, I was, like, getting flashbacks. But the the black like, the message board people on the message boards were referring to them as black super fractures and showing pictures.

And then here's one more point of validation. Look what I found here. Jason Campbell. Wow. Shout out Jason Campbell. Dude, I found I found an old message board post from, like it might have been ten years ago, and they had a link.

And I I clicked the link, and, dude, it's still active. This link for, like, ten years. So this card again, if you've seen this card, let me know.

But the on eBay for buy it now for $2,000 is a Jason Campbell o five Superfractor one of one in Auburn Gear b g s nine five, and it says gold Superfractor on the label. But, yeah, it was here we go.

This is it. Black Superfractor on the backside. You see that? Yeah. So it's trading card database, which normally steers me right, says Chrome Gold Superfactors as the as the Look at the card, not the label, guys.

Yeah. I know. I know. Like, that's crazy. I mean, I guess it's into territory of o four finest with the refractor, extractor, and, all that, the gold extractor. Those are these are cool.

I'm looking at sales of other o five draft picks super factors, and, I mean, they're sharp looking cards. Dude, they're great looking cards. Going through this exercise makes me want like, I it's a piece of history.

It's a piece of history. And, like, I I mean, I'm not gonna smash Ben on this Jason Campbell card, but but thinking about it. But, like, dude, you remember how how, like, the hype train on Jason Campbell was endless.

Oh, he was awesome. I mean, he had some good Washington years, and then he came to the bears. I thought he was gonna be the bear savior. He was not. How many years did he play with the bears? Played one game with the bears. That's it?

Yeah. What what happened? I think he got hurt 2012. What was happening in 2012? Yeah. Cutler was already there. So I think he was kind of in a backup role. Okay. But yeah. The one my one knock on this is, again, like, too many words.

I don't like the brand draft picks and prospects. If this was just, like, tops and a gold refractor or tops chrome even, but, like, I've never liked Bowman rookies and stars or, like, pros and prospects.

Like, I don't know. It's just too many words. I'm simple. But it's it's interesting now because I think the move from fanatics, they're using the Bowman brand.

If this came out today, this would be a a Bowman product because they're highlighting the first. And so, like, yes, I agree with you. It would be cool to see, like, if they release this product today kind of where it would sit.

But the thing I do like about the Bowman stuff and the college stuff is, like, I like the Bowman first badge on it that, is similar to how baseball does things.

To me, that's like when we're talking prospects, having that first label, that to me is cool. I like that. For sure. Alright. Well, that was a yeah.

And I will say this to everyone. If if anyone if anyone has any further information, I'm very curious. So holler at me. The next card is Lamar Jackson's twenty eighteen contenders cracked ice rookie ticket out of 24.

This sold on eBay for 6,399. It is a pop five with four higher. I was looking at the sales history, and there's only there's 24 copies of this. There's only been four PSA grade copies that have sold in its history.

And, yeah, there was a PSA eight that sold for 4,300 this year. This PSA nine sold for 63, and then we've got a couple tens that sold within the last two years for 12 and 13 k.

So I always think that the cracked ice rookie ticket is, like, one of the premier rookie cards of a player. So, yeah, this this card, like, what else this card is cool to me.

And then what else is cool is that, like, the the logo that is baked in in the, like, on the back imaging of the card, I think that's super cool too. But, yeah, I love this card.

What do you think about it? Yeah. This is awesome. I love these cracked ice autos. This has been something I've been watching. There's a Jonathan Taylor sitting on eBay. I think it's, like, a a thousand OBO, I think is what it's at.

It might I don't know if it's a variation or not. That's the one thing. These all have, like, so many variations, it seems like. Or there's, like, the optic contenders and contenders, and then they each have, like, variations.

So there's, like seems like when you're looking for your guy at any time, you could find four or five different versions of basically the same card.

But this is one that I'm like, that would be sick if I had, like, my running backs in this. If I had, like, a JT, Bijan, like, from the same year, that would be cool. Just an idea. But I'm looking up a Patrick Mahomes of this Wow.

Just sold in September on Golden. Oh, gosh. It's gotta be is it six figures? 10 auto, 10 gem and 10 card plus a 10 auto. So a $10. 10. 110 k? 170. You're kidding me. Woah. That's a good nail.

But that tells you that tells you how important this parallel is. Yeah. In in defining like, if you're collecting, like, a player's rookie catalog and you're not just focused on one of ones, this is the first card I'm I'm selecting.

Yeah. This is, yeah, the top is littered with Mahomes, Luca, oh, Herbert, couple Herberts, and, some Burrows in there.

But yeah. And all like Burrows and Herberts in the strong, like, $50. 60, 70 k. Granted, some of those are in 2002. So that's when Herbert was selling for 1,800,000.

0. So you gotta take that with a grain of salt. The one thing I will say about, the variation of it all, yes, they've been over variation. But what I like about the PSA, like, they'll let you know on the label.

Yes. It is. Which is I'm so glad they do that because, dude, I just yeah. To me, I don't want the I I want the real deal, baby. I I will pay here's a question for you.

Let's say the Taylor let's say it's a variation. How much more would you pay for the for the for the real deal? Oh, I mean, I think it'd have to be What's your gap of, like, how much more would you spend to get the base set?

So okay. Let's say I'll do I'm just making up numbers. Let's say the variation sells for a thousand dollars. Just like so relative to that, I don't know.

I would pay more. Not like a I wouldn't go a crazy amount more, but maybe, like, 1,200, maybe up to, like, 15, something like that for, like, the regular. Because there's still 22 of them, 23 of them, so I don't know.

Like, I I think it's hard to say without fully knowing what the one of them costs. You know what I mean? Would you buy a variation, or would you just hold out and wait for, like, the the standard?

I think I'd hold out. Yeah. Same. I don't know. Like and, to card companies, I love when they put at least, like, some sort of indicator on the card that it is a variation.

Like, the v in a football logo is, like, what some brands do, but then sometimes I swear it's not always on there, which makes it just very confusing as a consumer.

Like, how do you know what you have? Well, for the longest time, it was, it was the helmet or the team logo was the differentiator on the rookie tickets. That's when they have the helmet.

Right. Right. Right. Right. But but no one knows that unless you're, like, in it deep, you know? Yeah. And where how am I supposed to learn that information without my, like, Beckett magazine reading a preview?

Like, I feel like that stuff you would learn if you're, like, reading articles about it and all that, but I don't know. That's yeah. But that is an awesome card.

Cracked ice. Shout out Cracked Ice Autos. Alright. We're talking, 2024 Michael Pennicks junior, PSA eight Gold Prism sold for 4,200. The reason why and this is not to, like, don't wanna dig in too much because the guy just got hurt.

The this guy wasn't playing really well this team. I think he was or this year. This I think the expectations on the Falcons were they're a playoff team, and they've got so many pieces.

Like, I know Bijon and and Drake London are just legit. Those dudes are legit. And I know the defense has, like oh, there's a lot to like. A lot of good pass rush. I'm a huge, Jess Jesse Bates guy.

I think he's one of the best, if not the best safety in the league, but they came up short. And so I see this sale, $4,200. I look at the last PSA ten sale, $19,200. And, yeah, it's this to me, and I hope it's not.

I'm rooting for this guy. But to me, this is this is he is the out of that draft class right now, he is the example of the player who's not satisfying the hype and potential as much as all the other quarterbacks in his class.

I remember when this product came out and all the cards were being purchased and the prices were crazy.

And then, eventually, you get to this point where it's like, do these does this pan out? So I Pennix obviously hasn't been living up to his hype.

JJ McCarthy hasn't been living up to his expectation or hype. How do you think about that? I feel like I have a complex because of theirs and watching quarterbacks where I give them a full three years before I'm, like, I'm over it.

Like, yeah, he hasn't looked great, but, again, I just we've kinda talked about this all year of it just takes so much time.

And, I mean, yeah, he hasn't looked good, but I don't know if I could write him off as, like, he's never gonna be good in the NFL. Same with JJ McCarthy. I mean, I don't know.

I just think it takes so long for these kids to develop to understand NFL defenses. But for that reason is why I would never, like, buy their cards speculating that they're going to become some amazing player because it is so, so rare.

Like, Mahomes, his twenty eighteen is the anomaly. Like, that's rarely ever gonna happen.

Drake May right now, I feel like is making everyone else in this class look bad and Bears fan people given the Bears grief for not taking Drake may when last year it was, they should have taken Jaden, Jaden Daniels.

And I'm like, Caleb's still in the convo, so I'm happy.

Like, he's alright. He's okay. He's not, he's not, he's not nine and he's not panicked right now. He's, I'd say he's, like, third. Except Jaden can't stay on the field. So I think it's, like, Drake, May, Caleb, kinda from that class.

It's gotta be. I'll listen to the I'll listen to the argument. No mention of Bo Nicks. Is is what he I was like I I knew I was forgetting someone. I think Bo Nix isn't blowing me away, though.

Right? Like, I haven't really watched the Bo Nix game. Let me look at his stats. 18 touchdowns, eight picks. Okay. Okay, Bo Nix. Alright. Maybe it's Bo above Caleb. Maybe it's strike me, Bo, Caleb right now as it stands.

But Caleb's got the bears at seven and three. So He sure he sure does. Yeah. It's always interesting to look back on these classes with a lot of different quarterbacks. Let's move on to the hopefully, we have no more interruptions here.

But here, this is a card that I saw, sell, and just it's a beautiful card. '90 seven Skybox Premium, Marvin Harrison, rubies out of 50, PSA six sold for $2,100. And granted, I don't keep up with the nineties market and stuff.

But when I saw the sale, I was like, that seems like a pretty pretty reasonable, price for a card that's this awesome of a hall of famer. I'd love this is one of my favorite.

I don't own any of these, but I love the 97 rubies in football. Like, they shine the glow is it glows brighter than the basketball counterpart I've heard people mention and discuss, and then you can see it in these scans.

These are the types of cards. 2,002 finest x factors remind me of 97 rubies where the background color is always different, but, like, matches the team and complements the team.

And when you see multiples of them together, it's incredible. Like, when our good friend, Andy, buy buy baby cards, will just randomly post, like, hey.

Here's 20 different 97 rubies. I'm like, holy shit. Those look so cute. Hall of famer. Hall of famers. Yeah. It's like seeing that group together is always just amazing looking. Same thing like, again, I love o two finest extractors.

And when I lay out, like, several different ones together and you see all the different colors and all the effects, just awesome cards to look at. So, unfortunately, the bears have no good players in the late nineties in these sets.

Like, I don't really want a Curtis Conway, but I might get one one day just because they look so cool. But, yeah. If I if I collected guys from this era, I would want one of these very badly.

Good. Curtis Conway is like the standard bear in all of these sets. What a great day. Alright. That was that was fun. Yeah. And I well, check-in, John. You're, you you have you gotten a pacemaker yet for, these these bears?

They they just keep doing it to you, but they keep winning, which is great. Cardiac bears. I I'll take it. Set now seven and o when I watch at my house the way out with it's become a thing.

So seven and o Any conflicts the rest of the year by the way to prevent you from watching the game at home? Okay. So this Sunday is the Steelers, no. Then Black Friday against the Eagles.

That's gonna be that's what this is all building up towards. Oh. Where yes. The Bears, seven and three. I'm having fun. It feels like a special season. I'm not saying this team is great by any means, but they're winning games.

When they have to make plays, they're making plays to win games. Beat the Steelers now with Aaron Rodgers apparently out, and that you're eight and three. That's insane. I can't I good record.

If you would have told me before the season, eight and three, I would have not believed it. And and the fact that they haven't looked in like, they haven't played, like, a great complete game, and they're still seven and three.

So that's kind of encouraging. It's like, hey. If you put it all together, maybe this is a decent team. So Steelers game, even without Rogers, that Steelers defensive line could give Caleb Fitz.

I don't know. Mhmm. Just get the win, and you're eight and three, and you go on to a nationally televised game against the Eagles, which all I ask is What a night game?

It's at, like, 3PM. Okay. So just don't get, like, embarrassed is my only like, that'll that'll just be a measuring stick game. It's like, what what are these bears?

Are they able to play up and, like, hang around the eagles, or are they just gonna get curb stomped and it'll be a reality check? But, no. Just beat the steal I'm focused. Steelers. Just win. Go to eight and three.

I mean, I thought that the Ravens without Lamar would be a win for the bears, and the bears got carved up by Tyler Huntley. So Mason Rudolph could could give the bears fits because their defense still isn't isn't that great.

They get takeaways, which is nice, but if they don't get a takeaway, the other team is scoring. So but overall, I'm just having fun. The bears are first in the NFC North right now.

A sole possession of first in the NFC North in November, playing meaningful games in November. It's all I want. It's all I've asked for. It's just the other the most recent seasons I've been looking up mock drafts by November.

So the fact that I'm sitting here looking at the NFC North standings in November, it's incredible. Who would have thought? Yeah. It's been quite the ride.

I didn't you know, I was on by this week, which every you know, when you're on by, you're cheering against teams mostly. It's like you don't want these teams to win. And every team I was cheering to lose, everybody won.

Like, all of a sudden, you go on by and you you're you've been leading the AFC the like, basically, the entirety of the the year, and then you look at the standings and you're in third place all of a sudden because you didn't play.

So half game back on the Pats and Broncos. Honestly, like, of course, I want the first round bye.

That would be great. But I went into this playoffs by just being like, I just wanna or this season by being like, I just wanna make the playoffs. I even didn't, like, blow my like, blow create the expectation of winning the division.

I was just starting with the playoffs. So everything that happens, like, from this point is is gravy. I will say we we part of me cheering against Denver this week was or last week was twofold.

Number one, I didn't want them to be a half game ahead of us even though we beat them. And, yes, we beat them. And I don't need to hear about, oh, well, if this call didn't get made, then the Colts wouldn't have won the game.

Well, you shouldn't have done something illegal when it mattered most. Then that that's why you lose games. So Colts beat Denver, but Denver's ahead of them right now.

So I'm watching the Chiefs game. I'm like, okay. I want Denver to lose, obviously, and I want the Chiefs because I don't want the Chiefs to be, like, desperate when we play them this weekend.

That's, of course, what happened. So we've got a desperate Kansas City team that's literally on the ropes heading to to Kansas City, which is not gonna be a tough environment.

I've watched the Chiefs this year. I'm like, nothing here is, you know, crazy. Like, I'm not too terrified, which tells me Mahomes is gonna have, like, his greatest game of all time against us.

So I'm I'm I'm definitely focused on Kansas City in Arrowhead. And I'll say if, like, if the Colts can win that game, I mean, that's a statement game. Like, basically, imagine the Chiefs trying to make the playoffs at at five and six.

Like, that's gonna be tough. So it's a big like, it is a the Colts can take the loss for sure, but it it's a it's a big like, I'm viewing this as a very big game and an opportunity to make a statement.

And so, hopefully, we get some guys like Tavarious Ward healthy and having Ward and Sauce and Kenny Moore altogether on the field. Like, that's that's the best trait cornerback trail we've ever had.

So, I'm ready, man. I'm when you're out a week, it's like, I feel like I haven't seen my team in in ages. And I haven't been to a home game in ages because of the whole Berlin and everything else, so I'm ready for this game on Sunday.

I want I need this in prime time. NFL flex it. Like, just I don't need Panthers 40 There's actually one. 40 niners on Monday night football. I don't know.

I want I wanna because Colts are playing same time as Bears, so I'm watching the Bears game. But, I I mean, I'll obviously, I'm not gonna watch that game. But I want I truly wanna watch it. So because Colts Chiefs have had epic games.

And, like, when they're both good, I think that's that's good for football, good for the AFC. I think to specifically the divisional game in, like, o three when Manning just tore like, it was like the shootout at Arrowhead.

Like, Priest Holmes had a monster game, Dante Hall had a return, Manning carved him up though, and then the Andrew Luck comeback.

Just another awesome memorable playoff game. So, I I feel like the Colts haven't had a great season really in the, like, Mahomes era. So to see, like, an a really good Colts team play the Mahomes Chiefs is exciting to me.

Oh, what's also crazy is the Colts are the only team Patrick Mahomes has not beat in the regular season. Oh, I love that. They're they're o and two against the Jacoby Brissett and the Matt Ryan led Colts.

Those two seasons, Mahomes lost. But Mahomes did beat the Colts in the playoffs, still in 2018. So, yeah, it there's a lot of weird, interesting storylines and implications on this.

But, you know, I'm sitting there preparing to watch this game. And, you know, like, Chiefs' Kingdom will be all rowdy, and it it'll be it'll be a tough environment.

So I'm hoping that two weeks of rest, they can they can be on. And winning against the Chiefs would give give me a lot of confidence, in this home stretch where the schedule gets tougher.

Yeah. Shout out Jacoby Brissett. NFL record for completions in a game last week. 47com 47 completions. His arms are gonna fall off, dude. That's insane. I've always liked Jacoby Brissett.

He's always a great guy. Seemed like a a great backup that did well, like, when he started in places. Maybe not like, a world beater, but it's hard to play quarterback in the NFL is just my message I'll keep preaching.

So Anything else across the league stand out to you? I just wrote down JJ McCarthy stinks, and Devin HN might be sick just as a running back as a running back stats guy.

He's someone that I'm starting to pay attention to. And like he's coming up on double digit touchdowns. Like, he's in his third year. In his rookie year, he had 11 touchdowns.

Last year, he had 12 touchdowns. He's at nine right now. So I'm like, okay. I like this. I like stacking touchdowns. And in his rookie year, I I knew he had, like, big plays. He had 800 yards rushing on a 103 carries. So he averaged 7.

8 yards a carry. Over a 103 carries is pretty like, it's not like he just had, you know, a couple games that popped off to skew the number. He was consistently getting almost eight yards a clip, and he's at five and a half this year.

So he's someone that is on my running back watch list of just now I'm like, should I get a sick ACHN card and a Bijan card and a Jonathan Taylor?

Just like the trio of the and a McCaffrey. Like, maybe I get the big forehead and monster of the current scrimmage leaders. I don't know. There's there's always ideas swirling.

What what about you? Anything jump out from the league? I gotta just the Eagles defense is, in my opinion, out of every unit, both sides of the ball, the best unit the past couple weeks in football.

I mean, they they destroyed the the Packers, and then dude, I have never seen anybody do what they did to the lions in this era of lions offense. Did Jared Goff looked and I don't I think Jared Goff is a great player.

I've seen him play extremely well for a long time, but they twisted and turned him up, dude. He couldn't even complete a pass. And so I'm like, man, look at this defense, and look at this defense compared to last year.

Dude, it is they are well, they add they added Jalen Phillips in to add a a a rusher like that midseason and, dude, it he didn't even miss a step.

It was like, oh, yeah. Thank you for putting me on this Super Bowl team. I'm just gonna go be one of the best defensive players in the league.

Did Jalen Carter too? They are disgusting. So I know your bears are staring down the barrel of that. And the the Eagles offense can't do anything. Like, they're about as ugly as it gets.

It's it's a terrible watch. I don't need to I don't need to see 20 tush pushes. I don't Their their offense is atrocious to watch, and it sucks because there's AJ Brown and Saquon Barkley. You're like, figure this shit out.

But, like, their defense wins championships and the the Eagles, damn, that defense is just it's it's disgusting right now. Yeah. That Black Friday game is like, I have my plans where if it's going great, great.

And if not, we're focused on Christmas decorating. You know, we just got the we'll we get the Christmas tree Black Friday morning normally, and, I'll just I won't care.

I'll I just won't care about football that day. The last thing for me, and this is back to the running back conversation, six carries for Ash and Genti on I hate it.

Monday night football for that was such a, like, stinker. It's like, man, I have to watch the cowboys and raiders, and then, of course, I'm watching it.

And I'm like, what are they doing? And then I'm like, Chip Kelly, man. You I've never seen a coach slash coordinator just take such a downfall.

I'm like, what are you doing, Chip Kelly? You're the Raiders, and you're getting smoked this year. It's like the you can either you can find Brock Bowers or you can give the ball to Ashton Genti.

It's really not that complicated. But to six carries, it's just like, come on, Raiders. You're you're killing me. Yeah. I I love seeing a running back flourish, and it is tough seeing him get locked up like that.

His only good game against the Bears, of course. His only his only 100 yard game. So for those, disappointed with Saquon's output this year, don't worry. He's the bears are gonna get carved up on Black Friday.

I can feel it. Just don't don't have Caleb. I don't think I will say if we're doing a first team all pro quarterback or evasion team evasion, Caleb Williams, his ability to evade the defense Unreal. It's some of the best I've seen.

It's incredible. Like, he's he's got a pocket presence and awareness. Doesn't get he's, like, really, really good. What I'll say, Caleb Williams, you will not be able to do what you've done against the Eagles and for it to work.

So gotta get that ball out fast or you gotta run the ball because the Eagles have too many guys that are just gonna crush him if if he stands around the pocket. He's due to get lit up. Like, I've just I've watched too many close call.

But at the same time, he's he senses it. Like, he's able to not be in a situation where he's gonna get blindsided. Like, he might get dragged down in a sack, but it's never, like, you know, a corner off a blind side just smokes him.

He always, like, feels something like that or even the end. He always is and he's getting better about stepping up in and through the pocket. Like, Justin Fields never figured that out.

Justin Fields also did the, like, backwards spin out in the open space, which would then sometimes turn into, like, a 15 yard sack. Yeah. Caleb does that too, but Caleb's also, like, can sometimes step up and over, which is nice to see.

And he is always looking downfield. He doesn't wanna run. He's just trying to, like, wait for someone to get open. So it's definitely a part of his game, but, yeah, it's it's crazy to watch.

Alright. Let's let's wrap it up here with this prompt, this question for our dynamic kickoff, which this I came up with. I was just curious to think about because we're entering the end of the year. It's time for reflection.

And something I wish I had done more of over my years of collecting is, like, at the end of the every year, I wish I had made a list of my collection or at least, like, the graded cards in my collection because then I could do the what I called, like, the 23 and me DNA makeup test of the collection.

And because I was looking at my cards and I'm like, alright. My bear stuff is probably close to 50% of my collection now. And then 2000 two finest is probably, like, 25%.

Fantasy running backs, probably 15%. Select basketball, probably 10%. It's maybe where it's at right now, but, I think it'd be fun to see, like, year over year how that changes, what segments grow as my interests change.

So, yeah, just thinking about the evolution of collections, and I'm kinda curious where you're at the makeup of your collection and how that's changed over the past year.

Yeah. It's gotten more heavy on the Colt's Prism side. So I'm, like, 70% Colts Prism, 15% Manning and other Colts legends, about 10% Pacers WNBA, 5% Notre Dame football.

I often ask myself, and I've talked about this. I'm like, what if I just stopped everything else and just focused on Colts Prism? What would that look like?

And that is something that I am I I don't I I don't know if I'll ever pull the trigger because I have this, like, complex and it's like, I'm sure other collectors go through this, but I have landed in this zone where I've got this product that I love that's so interesting to me.

And there's all these components, and I'm building this thing, and it's great.

And it's the most interesting part of my collection, and nothing else will top it. But then, it's like the players that took me and my fandom to the mountaintop aren't weren't a part of that.

Like, they're in another era. And, you know, Manning being the greatest Colts player of all time, it's like, it's this complex I have.

But I look at, like, the Colts, Legends, and Manning collection I have, and my biggest struggle with it is, like, it doesn't look the same. It's the different products and pieces, and it's there's no cohesiveness, really.

It's just a bunch of cards. And, like, as I've matured as a collector, that cohesiveness and the connections, that is the most important part of my collection, and that's what excites me the most.

So it's this I'm I'm it's I'm always, like, I'm always, like, I'm I'm I'm I'm troubled at times by thinking about what do I really wanna do.

But I know that the prism, which is the majority, is my favorite part. And if push came to shove, I think it might take, like, that one card, where I have to you know?

He's thinking like a Andrew Luck, finite rookie, Jonathan Taylor, finite rookie where it's like, you know what? I don't care about this stuff as much as I care about getting that card.

And maybe that's what it takes, but, yeah, I don't know. We'll see. Yeah. That I have the same division in my box of, like, there's bears prism stuff, and then I have, like, the bears non prism stuff, like, non panini.

And it feels like a hodgepodge because it's just, like, there's finest stuff in there. There's a p m g in there.

There's tops chrome black refractors in there, which are all cool cards that I love. But the prism side just being so cohesive is always very pleasing. Mhmm. And just yeah. Deal but I'm, like, I'm not gonna sell any of these.

Like, a Rex Grossman o five gold extractor is worth more to me than the mark like, I would never sell like, I don't wanna sell this at all, but, doesn't maybe fit in, the way that other stuff does.

But, yeah. That's just, maybe a thought exercise for everyone out there.

I'll like, send us your breakdown. We'd love to see that. I know there are people who track their collections way more than I do. I've always admired those that, like, have the spreadsheets for everything.

I've I'm going off gut feel over here. Sometimes just just winging it. But I will say I will say I've been a more of a power user of card ladder collection feature when I get a card getting it in there.

And I just I do love, like, digging into my collection in card ladder. And I was there was a period of time where I wasn't even, like, doing that. So I'm doing I feel like I'm starting somewhere by doing that.

And it's great. It's nice to see cards, you know, trend up or, see your collection, you know, get the greens. That's fun. Yes. Yeah. Tracking tracking the collection in card ladder is great.

I wish, like, could see, like, what I was talking about earlier, just, like, the year over year snapshot. Like, I wish I had done that myself. I remember thinking about it last year.

I didn't do it, but just, like, going through my box, just filming me going through every single card. Because there's cards I forgot about. There's, like, my priest Holmes collection used to take up a big percentage on its own.

That has, like, shrunk down into, like, my fantasy running back collection. It's just I I love seeing how it how people's collections evolve. So speaking of collections, last thing before we get out of here, collecting updates.

What are the current collecting projects that you're focusing your resources on? Brett, any pickups or anything to share? Yeah. I posted this, last week, but I my latest pickup was the '24 Josh Downs Black Finite.

It was up for auction. I was like, I'm gonna do whatever I can to get this card. So it was the, I think, fifth car at Black Finite of 2024 Quilts Prism or Prism that I was able to pick up.

I love Josh Down, so pumped to add that one to my collection. What about you? I've been in an exploration phase of kind of again, I have my core pillars that I'm after.

Stuff hasn't really been popping up. I'm just gonna read off the last I think I don't know if it was contrarian cards, Jason, who's done this, where it's, like, the last 10 players you've bought on eBay.

And I'm just gonna read these 10 players because that's a it's a nice spread right here.

Tony Gonzalez, Stone Cold Steve Austin, Caleb Williams, Devin han, Peyton Manning, Devin h n, Charles Tillman, Bonzi Wells, Marshall Faulk are the last purchases. Dude, you gotta tell me about the stone cold.

So 2,001, FLIR, foreign objects, ring worn, stone cold. I have a triple h like game worn jeans that I've had for a long time that I have in like a separate box that's like cards from my childhood like just like a different level.

Like, stuff will never sell, never get graded because it's, like, bad condition, but it's, like, core core memory box.

And I have this triple h gay morning jean card that the other night over the weekend like, I had to get that box out, and I was, like, this is sick.

Like, I love triple h. And then I'm like, I need a stone cold in Iraq from this set. So I was cruising eBay, fired off an offer, and, ended up with a stone cold card that should be arriving soon.

Oh, I can't wait to see that one. That's a mate. That's a fun exercise. I like that. Yeah. And, I mean, they're all, like, the Marshall Faulks, like, o two refractor, Bonzi Wells. But, you know, it's just random cards, but, yeah.

And then who knows? I'm just probably waiting for that one card to show up that I'd end up selling all this stuff for. But of course, another big focus that I'll cover briefly, pennants. I think I'm becoming a pennant guy.

So we have a small section of wall going down into our basement that I've been allowed to hang bears memorabilia on. I've finally been gifted some square footage in this house by my wife to hang bear stuff, which is fair.

I never really wanted to before. We never really had the space to, like, do a a bear's room or anything. So this little patch of wall. So I buy an old vintage pendant that I found on eBay because I'm like, this is sick.

And my wife's like, this is really cool. Like, do they are there others? Like, you should get a bunch of them and we could do, like, a thing in the basement. And I'm like, oh, say less.

You're gonna give me a full wall to decorate in bears pendants? But then I'm going down the rabbit hole of, you know, these things are from nineteen thirties, nineteen forties. Like, what's real? What's not? Like, who was making these?

Like, I so I ended up buying a pennant price guide because I'm, like, trying to find like, you can't I can't find any info online. It's there's There's no card ladder for pennants? There's no card ladder for pennants.

PSA is not grading pennants. They're all just, like, I don't know. It's like a whole interesting world that I've, dove into. So I've actually been buying a bunch of pennants to create kind of a pennant wall.

You gotta get an 85 bears pin at Super Bowl. Yeah. The thing is the eighties, they start to look like the NFL logos on them. The like, they just look a little more looking for the vent just vintage.

Old stuff. Like Okay. I got this one from the nineteen thirties that's, like, I'm obsessed with. It's just really, like, the bear looks different. I don't know. I I like the the historic ones a little more than the the new stuff.

I think I'm going up into the The new stuff, '85. Yeah. New stuff. No. The eighties. Get that modern crap out of my basement. But yeah. So that's my maybe a little vintage football talk, but old bears pen.

If if there's any knowledgeable pennant people out there, please hit me up. I'm I'm in the research, r and d phase of my pennant collecting. I can't wait to see that wall build out. Do you have a card call out for this week?

Card call out? Oh, and and any card. Let's do any card again. Let's do any or unless you have something specific. But, you know you know what? I'm actually gonna I'm gonna say we're gonna take the any card off off the table.

No any card. No any card. I'm going to this is what I want because I was thinking about the new award in the NFL this year, which is the protector of the year.

Oh. I wanna see offensive lineman cards, not Offensive lineman. They can play tackle, guard, or center.

Let's see the big uglies. Damn. I don't you got big q and I got big q. Damn. I don't I don't think I have any. There's never oh, nope. I got one. I know I have one. Alright. I I got one to post. Alright. Yes.

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