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Listen in for a fantastic conversation with Mike Bodie on connecting, leading, setting priorities on your calendar, and more.
Business owners, leaders, and entrepeneurs, turning trials into triumphs, seeking and embracing success. Balancing business, family, faith, health/fitness, and, aligning with values, purpose, and vision. To promote healthy leaders leading healthy organizations.
Todd Halls 0:00
Hello, welcome to Why not me? In life, we faced many trials and obstacles, many challenges in the thick of it, we can be tempted to think, Why me, but every obstacle presents an opportunity and every trial can bring trial. So I want to encourage you to adapt a mindset of why not me? When we're in the middle of it when things are tough look around and think, why not me? It's it's happening for a purpose. And then when success is at your doorstep, and all you have to do is open it. Let me find yourself hesitating questioning, is this for me? Do I deserve this? And I want to encourage you to adopt a mindset of why not me? Throw the door open wide shout to the world. Why not me? Embrace your success. I'm your coach Todd halls. I'm grateful to have you on this journey. Welcome to why not? Hello, hello, and welcome everyone to why not me turning trials into triumphs seeking and embracing success. I am so grateful that you tuned in today. Thank you. I'm your host, Coach Todd Hall's got an awesome guest today, Mike Bodie, and Mike was introduced by a mutual friend. So I'm gonna let him fill in the blanks. Here's what I know. Mike is self described as just your average guy. But I know that he is a person. He's a man of faith. And that's probably first and foremost, I would share that I know that he's a leader in his organization. And in the work he does. And from from our conversation. Last week on the phone, I just know that he is he's got an amazing story on his journey, just kind of his life journey. And what's what's brought him here. So super grateful for Mike to be here with us. And I hope you all enjoy with that. I didn't, I didn't give a lot. So Mike, please fill in some blanks for the listeners. Welcome. Well,
Mike Bodie 1:55
oh, Todd, thank you so much for having me on. I greatly appreciate it. It's a privilege to be on with you. And just to share a little bit of my story. As you mentioned, my buddy, and so I am a sales leader within a company organization here. And so I've been probably a sales leader now for the last eight years been in sales for over 25 plus years. So that probably dates my age a little bit. But I father of three daughters, on my second marriage, and so we've been married now for four years, my oldest daughter has three, three kids, I have two grandsons and a granddaughter. My middle daughter is she's in the journey of life, and that I have my youngest daughter, who is at college finishing up her early, early education degree. So that's a little bit about me. And as you mentioned, just the average Joe and I just, I just go with it from that perspective.
Todd Halls 2:53
Awesome. In, in the 25 years, you've been in sales. What are what are some things you've learned about just about relationships? Building relationships? Like? Yeah,
Mike Bodie 3:11
no, I think that when you're thinking of relationships, and as you mentioned earlier, at the very beginning, I am I am strong in my faith, not always perfect by no means. But relationships are key. And when you're looking at cells, and if you're looking at any type of anything that you're really doing, it starts with a relationship. And what does that relationship look like? Because most of the time, when you're going into working with a client, or if you're working with someone you just met, or you're meeting someone, what is what is that aroma that you're putting off? And so when people see you, what are they seeing right in the beginning? Are they seeing love? Are they seeing someone who's going to listen? Or are they going to see someone where they're more interested about talking about them? Or are they listening to what they have to say? So when you think of sales, and you think of leadership, and I think about your title, why not me? You know, what is? Where do you go with that? And being in sales? What does that really truly look like? And again, I tie it back to sell, but it goes in any walk of your life. To when you're looking at the relationship? How does that relationship look to you and to the other person? Does that make sense? Where I'm what I'm saying?
Todd Halls 4:27
I think I think so. So how do you how do you assess that like, like, when you're thinking about how it looks to you how it looks them? Is there is it a gut feeling? Is there a process or a mental checklist?
Mike Bodie 4:43
I think a couple of things. When I go into let's just say I'm meeting someone for the first time. You know, I use this quote and it's actually quote came and I probably won't mess it up. It actually came from Quint Studer. He was a mentor of mine. And he said Always remember, be more interested in And then interesting. And so when I think about that, think about that a lot of times when a relationship, I want to be more interested in that person, not interesting, I'm not going to talk about myself. And you and I talked a little bit about, you know, we're saying things that describe me, which is hard, because I'm not always talking about myself, I'm more interested in what you do, or what that person does, what's their family look like? And what's their dynamic, and so forth. So it's more about that relationship is asking questions. And the better questions you ask, the more you're going to learn about the person. Because at the end of the day, people want to talk about themselves, not in a bad way. But people want you to know about their family, people want you to know about their jobs, people want you to know about certain things. So it goes back Are are you being interested? Are you being interesting?
Todd Halls 5:49
That's a great point. I recently read a book. And I won't get this exactly right. But I'm gonna try and sum it up really quickly. And they share a story in the book about this, this journalist who met two candidates that were running for some some national office, and she said, after meeting with the first one having lunch with him, she thought he was the most interesting person in the world, and then met the other candidate later. And after spending a lunch in and out few hours with him, she thought she was the most interesting person in the world. And the the candidate that made her feel the most in feel like she was interesting, of course, went on to it to win the election, the position. So I think you bring a good point in being intentional about being interested in what the other person is, who they are.
Mike Bodie 6:38
And when and with that, and that's a great point that you bring up, you know, when you when you think about that, because there's a book called this called the Energy bus by John Gord. So it's an older book was written, I think, in 2010. And it just talks about the lady that actually drove the bus, her name is Joy. And so the the character of the bus, I mean, the character of the book is just struggling with a lot of different things. What joy, the driver, the bus continues to ask questions of this gentleman, and continue to allow him to see different things to come to find out to remember that people are attracted to the energy that you provide. So what energy are you providing to the others around you? Is it positive energy, or that negative energy. So when you are being more interesting, I'm interested, you're bringing positive energy, so people relate to you, in a different way. From there, I'm not saying that you're gonna be best friends, but the conversation is gonna go a lot different way than if you're being if you have the negative energy, and where sometimes people look at when you talk about yourself the whole time, and it's all about you. And here's what you're doing. And this is what this is this DNA, it's a negative type energy, and people will shun away from it and just okay, and they'll turn their direction and go a different way. And what opportunity Are you missing, to share with a person or to have a conversation?
Todd Halls 8:04
So the fact that we're all you know, there's energy as positive, negative, and I've had this conversation with my son and other people, like, we're all leaders, if John Maxwell says that leadership is influence, nothing more, nothing less. So. Anytime we're interacting, we're in a leadership position, we've got the, you know, you and I, right now interacting, you're influencing me in some way, whether it whether it's profoundly unconsciously or subtly, and vice versa. So I think it's important that we are aware of that, and then just consciously, we make the choice to bring positive energy. Otherwise, we're doing a disservice to whoever is in front of us.
Mike Bodie 8:46
No, absolutely. So when. So when I take this back into the leadership side of it, and you and you nailed it right on, you nailed it is we're all in a leadership role some way somehow, you may not have a title that says, local sales manager behind your name. And titles are irrelevant, in my opinion, but it's how your actions What are your actions look like? Right, actions speak louder than words. So we all are leaders in some way. So when I think of this, and I think of this conversation, and I think about, you know, why not me? So for many years, I've always okay, why am I not the next leader? Why did I get overlooked from a position or whatever it may be? And we all find ourselves in those situations somehow. It's, I wasn't ready. I wasn't ready yet. I thought I was. But I will just tell you for me in my faith, you know, God wasn't ready for me to be there yet. And when that position finally came to a point to where I was ready, and I went into that role, there was still a lot for me to learn. And so there's a book that I read, I can't remember who wrote it. But it was called Lead like Jesus. And so when I read this book I thought about, you know what, and I look at it and I shared this a lot of times when I'm when I'm speaking outside of from work in different platforms on leadership is, you know, I'm not looking at saying that everyone's got to, you know, follow Jesus. Right. So everyone has different perspectives and different life where they're at in their life. And I always use this for an example, my just just think of it this way, we can all agree that Jesus walked the earth, there's, there's, there's history, there's data that shows he walked the earth, no matter if you believe in how it loads, or what it looks like, we can all agree with that. And a lot of times the audience will say, Yeah, you know, they'll raise your hand, they'll clap. But I'm like, think of it this way. Jesus actually got sick, grown men to follow him without really even knowing him. And how did he do that? And I say, six. I mean, there was 12, there was multiple. But, you know, when I look at that is, what did he do different he led by love. He led by example. No one always agreed with his own disciples didn't agree with him. But he continued to look at it and lead in a way to where he led by love. So when I look at a sales organization, I look at the where I'm at today, I try to lead in a way where I love my team. You know, if you think of organizations and corporate organizations, you know, HR would have a fit, if I was going around, hugging everyone and saying, I love you, I love you, I love you. But my team sees and knows that I do love them. And I love them in a way because I want to help them become better today than they were yesterday and better tomorrow than they are today. And I do that by what? Asking questions, diving in understanding what their needs are what they look like. So that's the work perspective. But we can apply that same perspective, in our walk daily, with people who are around us on the streets, people who we interact with, at different meetings, whatever it may be. What is the energy that you're putting off? What is that, that people are going there's something different about that person? And what is it? Well, it could be the positive thought process, the positive energy that you're putting off? Because you're more interested than interesting.
Todd Halls 12:32
When did you say as you're talking, and you bring in some some great points, and say, you know, treating everybody with love? And you know, and how do you go about that you mentioned, you know, in the workplace, obviously, you can't, can't hug everybody all the time. But there's this. How do you show love? And still, at times have those difficult conversations? Because there's this finding that balance. So how do you how do you how do you walk that line?
Mike Bodie 13:06
So I think it goes back to it goes back to the, you know, the ultimate, the commandment, that that we're given, is to love others the way I loved you. And what does that look like? So let me give you an example. So I was having a conversation with someone not too long ago, and we both sit on different political views. And we're having this conversation, great brother of mine, we love each other, we're having these conversations. And we're not always going to agree on the political stance where he's not gonna agree with me, I'm not gonna agree with him. But at the end of the day, we're gonna have a solid conversation. But we're gonna be respectful and love each other to be able to understand we are going to disagree. But where's that commonality that we can agree on? Now, that's one perspective. But what if you're having a perspective having a conversation to where you know what, here it is, here is the is in black and white, here it is, it's right or wrong, and you're having to have that hard conversation. You have to also look at it as remember, I'm having this conversation because I love you and I want better for you. And so let's instead of me telling the person that this is wrong, or whatever, it may be that hard conversation that I have to have. It's more so tell me your thoughts behind Tell me a little bit more why you think the way you think or why did you do the thing that you did? Or what is it that you see? So it's me understanding them? And so the more I get to understand the more the conversation I can have, because now it becomes a two way conversation instead of a one way conversation. And we have a tendency, especially and I put now I'm gonna I'm gonna probably make a lot of listeners upset and I apologize up front when you Use a wide paint brush. Christianity's bad about this. It's here's the box. Here's the box you have to fit in. And it's all of a sudden sometimes a downward conversation. Well take Christianity out of it for a second, and put yourself into this, the sandals or the shoes of the way Jesus led. There was no top down conversation. It was Tell Me More helped me understand, let's have this conversation. Yes, he was yes, he had to have car hard conversations needed there. But he did it in a loving way. And we can do those same things in a very loving way to have the conversation. So remember that if you're leading a sales organization, you're going to have hard conversations. And if you're sitting around with friends, and you'll have different viewpoints on different things, there's gonna be hard conversations. But you have to do it in a way where you can both agree to disagree, but yet realize you're having this conversation to learn more about each other not to say who's right or who's wrong. That's the tendency that we seem to go to. And I just And again, when I say we, I'm putting us all in the same box, we have a tendency to say, This is my way. So this is the right way. Well, it goes back to, you know, it's a method I use in leadership. If I asked you what, four plus zero or four plus zero, you would say what? I'd say four. So two plus two is what? Four, three plus one is,
Todd Halls 16:36
I come up with four again, well, what four again, right.
Mike Bodie 16:39
And so when you think about it, there's three different ways to come up with four. But we have to be open to it, we have to be able to sit back and listen. So goes back to listening. And I'm not sure if I've answered your question about tiptoed around it. But that's how I look at it when I'm having hard conversations with either over the net sales organization with my team, or with friends, family, and so forth. On a personal side.
Todd Halls 17:10
Yeah, that's awesome. I Beisa things thoughts come to mind. But one of the things I just had this conversation last week, somebody sharing with a group of young professionals that I'm part of, not that I'm one of the young ones that anymore, but anyhow. And he shared how it was talking about his relationship with his with his children. And whether it's your children, because I think it's super applicable there. But also, you know, with, with your team, employees, whatever you mentioned, getting to know them, even in the hard conversations, like asking them questions. And what he shared with us was he for a lot of years, he had been all about the truth. And you talked about that box like this is the way it is, this is the truth, this is how we ought to be or this is what we should do this what you did wrong. And one day, it just came to me he just was convicted that it's it's grace and truth. And without that grace piece, you really tend to alienate people where, you know, and what you just described, asking them about it getting to know what what do you think about it? That's where the grace comes in. And that relationship building? I think so? No, as you're talking to just there's been a couple different. This is number three, this week, where this is kind of the same theme, which tells me I need to pay attention, because usually when it happens that many times God's trying to try to tell me something. Oh, so when did you know? So you've been a, you've been in a leadership position for about eight years. Did did you know it that you're ready? or did somebody somebody else say okay, Mike, it's time that you step up to it. So how did that transition take place?
Mike Bodie 18:49
So my former boss left she, she retired. And so that position came up. And so our director of sales at the time came to me and said, Are you ready? And I said, I feel that I am. And so I interviewed. So it wasn't something that was given to me it was I had an interview against a couple of other people. And I had the opportunity to go into that role. Now, I will tell you, probably the first two years was the hardest part of it. And the reason why when you go from being on a team to leading the team, is a very difficult challenge. And I speak to that. And that's that's a whole nother conversation of what that looks like. But it was a struggle, because there's that fine line because now your peers remembered you as the person on the team. And all of a sudden now they're looking at you as their boss. Right. So I put that in quotations because I don't look at it as a boss, but you're also trying to find that balance and what that looks like. So my first two years was it was a very a challenge. I work with young leaders today that are transitioning into leadership or coming into a team that they run And so that being said, you know, my boss at the time, I'm director of sales, you know, looked at me and came into and say, Hey, are you ready? Now, I will tell you that even though I thought I was ready, he thought that I was ready. I really wasn't ready, mentally. mean at the time I was going through a divorce. At the time, there was a lot of challenges that I was dealing with, I dealt I was dealing with depression and anxiety that I didn't know that I was dealing with. And so it all ties back into one of the things I circled it all back around to what I just discussed about being more interested in the person that interesting is because if it wasn't for someone at the time, being more interested in me that interesting, I don't know if I'd be sitting here today. And that being said, to where I'm a big component, are not a spokesperson, but not really a spokesperson, but someone who really stands up tall and says, Hey, mental health is an issue. And as I walked through that journey, to where I ended up with a nine millimeter mark at hand, and there was a lot of things that I walked through, that I tie it all back to my leadership role. And I tie it back to my wall. Because what if that person wasn't interested in me, what I shared what I was going through, because at that time is what helped me get to where I'm at today. And so as I was stepped into a role, to answer your questions, I stepped into that leadership role that my boss thought I was ready, I thought I was ready. There was still a lot of growing that I needed to do internally, on a personal side that I didn't know I was, I was about to walk through. So the leadership side of it really helped me walk through that journey that I didn't know I was gonna walk through, but it was the hardest journey I've ever walked through. There's a lot in there.
Todd Halls 22:01
Well, isn't it so there's a person there that was pivotal, right and what, what comes to mind, and I'm just thankful as I think back on my journey, maybe with you, it's not just one person. But I once I prepare to speak and don't think I ever gave it but talking about our spiritual guardrails. And like every time, every time I started to sway or drift one too far, one way or another, God guttering, some divine appointment. And sometimes it seemed insignificant, sometimes it was very significant, but much to your story you had, I would call it this person, when your guardrails came along and was interested in you and allowed you to express what you're going through and grow through it. So I share that hoping that somebody listening knows that there's a there's somebody you're going to meet wherever you're at, and it's going to help you help you step forward and move forward.
Mike Bodie 22:57
No, no, absolutely. And I would, you know, I would share with the listeners to remember you can be that person, you can be that person, that the person the next person you walk into that you're more interested in. You have no idea what that person's walking through. So it goes back to something you met. You mentioned very beginning, we're all leaders. Yeah, but the leadership looks differently for each person. And so how do you, how do you address it? What does it look like? Are you sitting back listening to the things that are holding you back? As a person and as a leader? There always remember there's someone else who's looking for you for advice.
Todd Halls 23:43
Yeah. I'm in a peer group. And there's one of the people has said numerous times, like, there, there's somebody going to bed tonight praying for what you have to offer. It could be just a smile. It could be a handshake, a hug or a really sincere. Hey, Mike, how are you? Like, how are you doing? It gives us all a little bit of that there's some responsibility that goes with it. Like we go ahead.
Mike Bodie 24:15
No, no, you're absolutely right. I didn't want to step on you there. You're absolutely right. There is responsibility that goes with that. And I and I know I don't want to I know we're you know, we want to be I want to be respectful to time. But to give you a just a quick story real quick to how that what that looks like is I go back to there was I was I was at a speaking engagement. And I was speaking on mental health. And I had the opportunity to speak and I was sharing my story. And I was sharing my story of the walk, what I went through how it heals a group of married couples that I was speaking to if you know what looks and just different marriage situations and all this other stuff that I was talking about. And at the end of the At the end of my, the session, this gentleman walks up to me, and he has tears in his eyes. And I can see him coming. And I was talking to some other people. And I just saw this gentleman coming up to me. And I was like, Okay, this is going to be interesting. I'm not sure what I said, what, you know, where, where's this about to go? And as I turned, he looked at me, and he had this, just look in his face. He said, I have one question for you. I said, Yes, sir. So what's that question? He goes, Why did God save you and not my son? And I thought for a second, I was like, Okay, this is a very interesting question. And so I was speaking on, again, my journey with attempted suicide and stuff like that. And I looked at him and I said, you know, that's a question I can't answer. Because I can't, no one can. But we had a long conversation. And to this day, I still speak to him occasionally, he is now helping other people, parents, that have walked through what he's walked through, through the viewpoint of here's how God has helped me. So when you talk about responsibility, is I don't share things to say, Look at me, or look what I went through. I share things because it's my responsibility to share what God's allowed me to go, and what God has helped me and put people in my path, and so forth. So when I speak about it, it's not about me, it's about the journey. And so my responsibility to share the journey so others can hear. Now, as in this case, this gentleman now is speaking to parents who've lost children due to suicide. He still struggles he still wants to understand, we all would. But sometimes it's not our it's not our place to understand. It's a difficult conversation to have. But now he's able to take what he has walked through to help others. Now he's taking that responsibility, and sharing with others of the grace and the love and so forth.
Todd Halls 27:18
Incredible as you're sharing that, what So, what comes to mind? Mike, is I introduced you as a leader, but really, what comes to mind right now is servant leadership, like servant leader. And, yeah, so forever, I'm gonna think of you as servant leader, because of what you described in your interactions. So I would like to say thank you, and just encourage you in that, and it reminds me, so I first heard that term, probably, I don't know when first but I started my coaching journey through Christian businessmans connection, back in 2014, where I got my first, my first coach training, and they talked about servant leadership. And, you know, it ties back to what you're talking about before, how did Jesus lead? And he asked like, 370 on the New Testament, he asked about 307 questions. And he gave very few, like, direct instructions that we know, right? He was always just questioning and getting to know getting to know people better. And I, that's what you do. That's what you've described, when did you begin to communicate that way to embody that type of leadership style
Mike Bodie 28:38
given I think there's, it was a blend of during the time through my divorce, as I walked through that, but I will, I will say that probably came after that through my walk of mental and the things I just shared, to where my wife who I'm married to now, you know, she she's the one that stood by my side. And so she allowed me to see a lot of different things. And it's helped me through that. And so with our studies and with our walk and hasn't always been perfect, you know, decisions her and I made probably weren't always the best Well, I know where the best but you know, it was it was her by my side and allow me to see a different view of me by her asking questions, which then tied back into my leadership role, which tie it so it's all tied back in from that perspective. And then most importantly, I tie it back to to the people she introduced me to, you know, quench Deuter we, you know, quit you know, she ended it it's quit and quit, you know, ask me certain questions and him and I got to become good friends. And I know he's friends with a lot of people. But today I've learned from Quinn, Bert Thornton, who was the, you know, retired. It's basically I think he was a CEO Waffle House for many, many years. And so for his mentorship, so it's, it's, again, it goes back to what I said, you never know who's going to be in your path to help you. So I tie it back to eight years ago, when I walk through that journey. And then as I walked through it, as I was learning, probably two years after that into my leadership role, I realized I needed to be it needs to look more like this. But there's been a lot of studying a lot of reading. You know, my, I'm finishing up my, I'm finishing up my master's in management leadership. And so it's it's a lot of things that I have learned over the years, not just from books and so forth, but from other people that continue to apply. And so my role today Cool.
Todd Halls 30:59
Cool, cool. What, how much you have left in school?
Mike Bodie 31:04
So I have a hopefully it will be done at the end of next year. So I have like nine classes left. I think nine classes eight or nine classes left. So hopefully, I will be done then. But it's been it's been a fun journey so far learned a lot Samak. I love education. It's just, I don't know why. But it's just something I've always enjoyed. enjoyed learning.
Todd Halls 31:30
Yeah. So and so you got time left in that you you lead a sales team, your husband, your dad? How do you? How do you structure your week so that everybody and everything gets the attention it needs.
Mike Bodie 31:49
So a lot of prioritize. So you know, throughout the day, I start my days early, I start my days, probably around 5:30am. As that's when my day starts. And so my wife and I, we go for a walk every morning, I used to be a big runner, but the older I get my knees and hip just won't allow that to happen, especially after so many years of college ball. So you know, that's so we do that. And then I come in and and then I have my quiet time that I have my work time. But throughout the day, I have blocks on my calendar, where I call it Mike's time. And so Mike's time is where I either study or I do whatever it is I need to do for Mike. And to just set things aside. And I know this is gonna sound crazy is is all get out. But I also have on my calendar, call my kids. Because we all always put important things on our calendar, right? We put our meetings on our calendars, we put our appointments on our calendar, so why wouldn't we put the most important thing is our family. So I have times on my calendar is Hey, reach out to my youngest daughter who's in college, reach out to my oldest daughter reach out to my middle daughter. So I'm constantly texting or calling throughout the you know, through the through the week. So they're getting dad time, my grandkids will at night, they'll FaceTime. So they'll get pops in cocoa time. So that's what they call my wife and I. So we get to do that. But most importantly, we also have time aside because one thing I didn't mention is the masters that I'm going through my wife and I are doing it together. So we decided to do it together. And so that can you know, that gives us that time together when we sit in our office, and we're studying and writing papers and all that. So we're having conversations. So it's literally in with her schedule. She's busy as all get out, all get out, she's flying everywhere. She's going different places for Earth for her work. So it is it's just making sure that we have those that time allotted on our calendars. No and protecting it. You know, if someone called and said, Hey, Mike, you know, I need to meet with you from 1130 between 1130 to one my answer is no. That's Mike's time. Sorry. When is there another day or another time? And I protected? Or if I'm talking to my kids at night, hey, can we meet? No, sorry. Right now this is the time for me to call my children. So that's
Todd Halls 34:14
you so you bring up a good point, a calendar, I get get it in the calendar. But then that protection piece I think is so important. I talked to a lot of people who who do struggle with this balance, like they feel like men are at hours at work and but a set is the protection piece. It doesn't do any good to put it in the calendar if you don't honor it, and treat it like an appointment no different than a doctor or your attorney or anything else. So yeah, thanks. Thanks for sharing that.
Mike Bodie 34:46
No, absolutely. It's, there's so I learned that through a there's a book called dream big, and it's called this by Bob Gough. So last name, Joe FF. And one of the things that he talks about is What do you put? On? What day of the week? Are you going to pick something to quit? And why? I'm not a quitter. I don't want to quit anything, what is it? But it's, what is that one thing that you're going to give up each week. And so he talks about through his journey, you know, he quit his law firm, he had a established law firm. And one day on a Thursday, he walked in and just quit. And so each day each Thursday, or, you know, it's what are you going to put aside and I do the same thing now. So I have with the company I work for people ask me, Hey, can you meet with this person? You meet with this person? Can you mentor here? Can you do that? I hate the word mentor. Because it then it puts mentee mentors? Can you have a conversation with someone? And sometimes I say no. I just say no, it's it's like, why do we need to pockets in our pants? Why do we need to in so take one side of it and cut it off. Because the only thing the things that you do need, you can put in one pocket you don't need to. And so that's the mindset of where I go, where I just keep it relevant. And I keep it very minimum of what and I protect my time.
Todd Halls 36:13
So I'm chuckling about the pants pocket analogy. I don't know that I'm ready to go cut off one pocket. But that's it's a great analogy. Like How much stuff do we need in our, in our day on a calendar in our life? When Yeah, yes. They say no,
Mike Bodie 36:29
it is okay to say no. And so many. He's not tying it back into to real life and leadership. You know, sometimes within an organization, you don't want to say no, you don't want to say no, because you want to make sure that you're doing all things to be seen. Even in life. You don't want to you know, with your friends, you don't want to say no, you won't hurt someone's feelings. But in reality is you've got to protect you. And it's okay to say no, it's okay to say you know what, I cannot do this. But I know someone that would be very helpful for you. Again, it goes by putting people in realize you're not out there, you can't fix and do everything. But you are you do know people that can't help also. So rely on your sources rely on your friends rely on others to help but protect your time.
Todd Halls 37:23
That's a great point. You don't have to be the resource. As long as you've got risk resources you can draw on or direct them to. You can you can still help and protect your time.
Mike Bodie 37:35
Absolutely. And it just me as someone who is myself, I love helping others not always good at it. Look, I'm not putting myself on any type of pedestal look, I've screwed up probably more than I've done anything good. But the thing is, I love coaching. I love helping I love talking to others. But I only have so many hours in a day. And most importantly, what comes first is my is protecting my quiet time, protecting time I have set aside from me for my mental mental growth and protecting this from my wife's time that I have set aside for her and my kids.
Todd Halls 38:14
So, so real quick, I'm gonna, well, we're gonna wrap up here in a minute. But just you me think of something that quiet time and mental health. Tell me what that what's the relationship between the two.
Mike Bodie 38:31
So for me, my quiet time is how I Energize. So it's literally me plugging back into the electrical source is I'm reading jazz in my battery. And so I do that during my quiet time in the morning and throughout the day. So some people say, Okay, I'm going to do that at night, because your batteries are dropping down at night. For me, I'm a more of an early person than I am a lay person. By eight o'clock, I'm in bed. I'm done. I'm ready to get sleep. And so you know, so for me, that's that. So from the mental health perspective of how it works together, is now I'm getting my energy from my source to where I plug into. But throughout the day, I have that time to where I set aside and go okay. What is it that I'm struggling with today? What is it that I'm walking through? And so I may be reading a different book I may be. It may be a time where I call a friend of mine, who we walk through the same journey together. And so it just allows me to have conversations either a through a book and I journal a lot. So I write a lot. I journal a lot. I do POC I'm in you know, sometimes I do podcasts like what I'm doing with you with others. And then I have a YouTube so I get on YouTube and I just talk and I don't think you might listen, but it's good for me. And so it just helps me just lay it out there. So for me it's one of the things I've learned through my journey with mental health. And this goes for everybody but most If it goes a lot for men, we have a tendency to push things down. We want to, we want to push things down and hold it down. And because we want to portray that, okay, we can handle this. But finally, it's like a volcano, eventually, it's gonna explode. And that's really with anybody. But for me throughout that journey of quiet time, plus, looking at it from it gives me that time to, to release it. Let it go to talk about it. And once I let it go, I let it go. You know, my, my wife gets on to me all the time. And we were watching Andy Stanley the night. And we got tickled about this. Because sometimes in arguments, once I say I'm sorry, I'm done. I'm good. I've done my part. I've said I'm sorry. And I'm moved on, right? Well, my wife's not so much moved on yet. But I expect her to move on. Because I've said I'm sorry. Well, in reality is, Have I had a conversation. And we got it out. Have we really talked? Or is it just me saying I'm sorry? Because I know that I need to say I'm sorry, because I did. I did screw up. So now moving on. But the reason I do that, is because a lot of times I want to push it down, and I don't want to discuss it, because when you discuss it, then you have to have some kind of action behind it. So she holds me accountable for that.
Todd Halls 41:26
That's awesome. Yeah, how often? Yeah, I'm just hoping that we say our sorry. I'm sorry. Almost as an escape. I don't know if that's the right word. But is this gonna be hard work? If I don't get out of this quick? I'll just say I'm sorry. So you mentioned you mentioned YouTube, you have a YouTube channel that that we can find you at?
Mike Bodie 41:50
Yeah, I do. Literally, if you go in and type type in Mike Bodie, if you type in my body into YouTube, it should pop up. I wish I had it right in front of me. I don't shame on me for not, but you can't help them not miss my big old mug on it. And so when you look at it, it's more so on leadership. How Okay, so it is on leadership when I talk about, but if you type in Mike Bodi you you will be able to find it.
Todd Halls 42:22
Alright, and so we find you on YouTube, but Mike Bodi you've given us some some great, I think reading opportunities. The energy bus by John Gordon, was one book you mentioned, you mentioned Dream Big by Bob Gough, and you mentioned, lead like Jesus. And that's I don't know the author. But that should be an easy one to find. as we as we get ready to wrap up two things. Where else can people connect with you? If somebody wants to reach out and talk to me if they've got questions? If there's like, how do we get ahold of you, Mike?
Mike Bodie 42:53
Yeah, you can either. Look, go on LinkedIn. And you can find me there. And you can shoot me a message via LinkedIn. If you have LinkedIn. If not, you can definitely email me at Mike Bodi 18. So that's Emi KEBOD eighteen@gmail.com. So you can email me there, you can go to LinkedIn. If you find my YouTube, you can subscribe there. And you can send a message from that perspective. So there's and I'm also on Twitter. So Mike, buddy, type in Mike bowtie. There I am on Twitter. So there's multiple ways you can find me.
Todd Halls 43:28
Cool, cool, cool. As, as we wrap up, what would you leave our listeners with either either a question that we should all be thinking about, or maybe maybe a piece of wisdom that we should all take with us?
Mike Bodie 43:43
I think the biggest thing that I would love for people to think through each day, and this is something that I also think through is the person you come in contact today. Are they going to leave that conversation better than they were when they started it? And by having that conversation will be they be better tomorrow than they were today? So what impact are you having on people that you come in contact with each and every day? What is that impact that you want to leave them with?
Todd Halls 44:14
Love that. That is a perfect Thought for the Day and gives us all something to noodle on. So thanks so much, Mike. Time is precious. I consider yours a very, very wonderful gift. So thank you so much. And listeners. Likewise, thanks for tuning in your time is also a gift. Remember, whatever whatever big dreams you have, whatever vision God has placed on your heart, remember that you can until next time, peace to you. Well, thank you so much for listening. For even more on turning trials into triumphs and seeking and embracing success. Go to Todd halls dot life. That's Todd halls, dot life, and I look forward to serving you. Until next time, be strong. Be bold. Be humble. Stay healthy stay hopeful Peace to you