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Welcome to Make Your Passion Pay, hosted by LuAnn Buechler, a seasoned leader with a master’s degree in Hospitality Administration and a recipient of the TLC Award for Leadership. This podcast is designed for business owners who have left toxic environments to create their own thriving workplaces but find themselves struggling with team building and mindset. Join LuAnn as she shares insights and strategies to help you cultivate joy and a positive mindset in your business and personal life. Drawing from her experience working with renowned leaders like Dr. Ivan Misner, LuAnn guides you in building a supportive community and mastering the art of people management. Each episode offers practical advice and inspiring stories to empower you to transform your work environment into one that reflects your values and passions. Tune in to discover how to lead with joy, foster meaningful connections, and truly make your passion pay.
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LuAnn:Welcome to Make Your Passion Pay. I'm LuAnn Buechler creator of the Make Your Passion Passion Pay Playbook, your host and guide on this exciting journey to building joyful and successful work environments. Known as the little spark, I've helped countless individuals and businesses ignite their potential through transformational coaching, coaching, creating thriving businesses, and joyful workplaces. I have experienced the challenges of leaving toxic workplaces and building something better. I bring firsthand wisdom to help you align your work with your values.
LuAnn:With insights drawn from working alongside world renowned leaders and a deep passion for community and connection, I'm here to show you how to lead with joy and purpose. Let's dive into today's episode and start making your passion pay.
Beth Lefevre:Very good.
LuAnn:Hi, everybody, and welcome to the make your passion pay, podcast. We are in our first few episodes, and so bear with us. But what I have decided already is that it's all about being the authentic me, right, and sharing my wonderful friends with you and having great inspiring conversations. So my friend Beth and I, we're just gonna have some fun here and share with you, about clarity and connection. So first, let me introduce to you my friend Beth Lafayvray.
LuAnn:I did it wrong again.
Beth Lefevre:No. You did. It was perfect.
LuAnn:Okay. Great. Executive director of Master Life Inc. Is a team coordinator and trainer for executive teams. She specializes in behavior management, open communication methods, and train the trainer techniques.
LuAnn:I love that. Right? It's about teaching the people in the company how to, train each other. Beth has been working for over thirty years years to inspire and educate individuals, businesses, and organizations or organizational teams to create cooperation, communication, and culture connection. See, she even uses my language in all areas of their lives.
LuAnn:What
Beth Lefevre:a coincidence.
LuAnn:I know. Right? Beth is also one of the senior master trainers for the passion test and passion test for business and the passion test for kids and teen, traveling the world for city facilitating training courses based on the New York Times bestselling book by Janet Bray Atwood and Chris Atwood, the passion test, The Effortless Path to Discovering Your Life's Purpose. Beth is an international speaker, presenter, having done trainings, courses, and workshops in The United States, Canada, Central And South America, India, Australia, and Europe. She has also been a part of the Hispanic culture for over fifty years, so she speaks Spanish fluently and understands the nuances of that culture.
LuAnn:And culture is what it's all about. Welcome, Beth.
Beth Lefevre:Thank you, Luanne.
LuAnn:So the real key is, my friends, is that Beth was my trainer in the passion test for business fifteen years ago. Can you believe that? Fifteen years ago, she did the course when I got certified and in 2011 when I got certified in the passion test for business. And that is the basis for our conversation really is all that we learned and and really Beth helped to develop the passion test for business. And and it all speaks to culture.
LuAnn:So, Beth, tell us a little bit about your business right now so people get a perspective of what you're doing in the world today.
Beth Lefevre:Okay. My business, I I got a couple. Master Life Inc is one, and the other one is called Money Life Freedom. And and I also do personal coaching, professional coaching, etcetera. And what I really love to do I I love the Passion Test.
Beth Lefevre:I absolutely love it, and you're kinda dealing with one person at a time. What I love about passion test for business is you're dealing with groups. You're you know, it's kinda like you you get more accomplished. I was gonna say kill a bird with one more than one stone, but I don't wanna kill anybody, so we're not gonna I say feel like I you know, one person is great, but in a company, if you've got a 100 people and they start living what they love, if they're part of this culture, you impact a 100 people who impact their families. It's not just the person in the business you're impacting.
Beth Lefevre:You're impacting their families. I have done countless passion tests for business, and then I get a call that say, would you my wife wants to do it. My kids wanna do it. And the next thing you know, you got the whole family expressing themselves in a passionate way. Like, they create a family culture.
Beth Lefevre:So I really love going into businesses because I feel like that impact is quadrupled, you know, no matter how big that business is. So that's my favorite. And shifting a culture allows everybody to start doing what they love. Know, I believe when people are doing what they love, the conflict reduces because when you're out in the world doing what you love, you find ways to handle every challenge that comes up. And so I really love the culture of going into a business and making those shifts.
Beth Lefevre:So that's my main focus. And then aside from that, I do one on one professional coaching so that people in the business can really figure out what is it that I love to do. So that that those are my main my main efforts.
LuAnn:And we're and we're gonna come back to that. I wanna ask you, how did you get clarity in your life about where you wanted to focus your business?
Beth Lefevre:I actually you know, I I was doing what I love. Way back in 1990, I started running my own business, and I was doing what I love. And there is a phrase in the passion test in the book, it says the effortless path because I felt like I was always going uphill. It it was hard, and I was enrolling people, but it was difficult. There were so many parts of the business that I did not love.
Beth Lefevre:And when I came across the passion test and discovered the effortless path, it feels like everything opened up. It feels like I had a road map for how do I do this, you know, where it becomes fun again. My favorite part is allowing people to see their magnificence in business, in personal life. And as I discovered, a friend of mine gave me the passion test. I was training in Austin, Texas, and she came running in all crazy.
Beth Lefevre:You gotta do this thing, brother. And I had done every course known to man. And she was really crazy. And she came running, you gotta do this thing, you know, brother. And she had done one of the very first PASSION tests with Chris Atwood.
Beth Lefevre:And she came and she said, you gotta do this thing? So I kept putting her off, basically. I said, yeah. Yes. We have time if we have time.
Beth Lefevre:And she knows I'm a foodie. And so at the end of our training, it was an entire weekend, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, she said, I'm driving you to the airport only if you will do the I was like, fine. A free lunch. You know? And so we're sitting at a table writing on stuff.
Beth Lefevre:The waiter comes over. The next thing you know, I'm at the table sobbing. I did my passion test, and I'm like, And that was the beginning of my journey. And then it led to the passion test for business that I got to do with Chris Atwood and developed that. And as I developed the my business sense, which was very in alignment with my personal I felt really good because I was like, oh, what I'm doing is what I want to do.
Beth Lefevre:I just didn't have a system. And the system that got developed is the effortless. Once I had that system, it's like all the people, places, and things fell into place, and I felt like I was flowing with the river instead of going upstream. That's what it felt like before. I felt like I was always going upstream.
Beth Lefevre:It was hard. And then after I did the passion test passion test for business, it really allowed me to that clarity because there really is an amount of clarity that happens not only in discovering your passions, but with the passion test for business, you discover what will it look like when I'm living that passionate life. And then the third thing, you create your own culture action plan, right, that is a step by step plan that is in alignment with what you love. And so what's really cool is you get the clarity to say, alright. I don't like the accounting part so much.
Beth Lefevre:Maybe I hire an accountant. Let them do that. You know? Or trade services. You know?
Beth Lefevre:If you're in the beginning of this and you don't have a whole lot of income, you start finding ways. How can I give somebody what they need and get what I need?
LuAnn:Yeah. I wanna step back to one of couple of things that you said in there. Right?
Beth Lefevre:No. I I I just keep going.
LuAnn:I just She can get on a roll. That's why we love her. So, first of all, you said it became fun. Right? And you went through this emotional moment of going, oh my gosh, when you got clarity.
LuAnn:Right? Why do you think that people avoid that conversation or fail to take action on that conversation of really diving into their passions? What's happening for them just before that moment?
Beth Lefevre:Yeah. I think we spend and as a people, humans, spend so much time on what I don't want. I don't want this. I don't want that. I don't want that.
Beth Lefevre:And that is what becomes ingrained in us. And part of the passion test, we have a beautiful little formula called intention, not tension, no tension. And when I put all my attention on what I don't want, because I don't wanna be broke. I don't wanna work too many hours. I don't wanna work with people I don't like.
Beth Lefevre:Oh, I hate the culture of this company. Right? Where I'm putting all of my attention is on the things I don't like, and so there's an avoidance. There's like this natural avoidance that we have formulated because I believe that most people don't wanna get disappointed, and so they don't put their dreams. They don't put what they want out there because they might get disappointed.
Beth Lefevre:Oh, and how
LuAnn:Yeah. How about a fear of I might not get there?
Beth Lefevre:Oh, that's that
LuAnn:you I remember one of the first passion tests I did in the first few years, a gentleman sitting in the workshop, and he kept putting his pencil to the paper and picking it up. And he wasn't writing anything, and he kept doing this. And I finally went over to him privately, put my arm around him and said, what's going on? And he looked up at me with tears in his eyes, and he said, what if I fail to get there? And that was a crushing moment.
LuAnn:But the truth is, what if you get there? Right? The what if there. Right. Right.
LuAnn:In in Sandra Yancey's programs when she's making an offer, you know, she's like, I'll get you to a million dollars. But if we don't, if we only got to 750, would that be okay?
Beth Lefevre:Exactly. Don't
LuAnn:do that if we only get to 500. Would that be okay? If we don't do that and we only get to $2.50, would that be okay? Right?
Beth Lefevre:Alright. That's right.
LuAnn:And as she talks about shoot for the moon, shoot for your moon shot, And that's what we do in the work in the passion test is really help you to dream big of what that big dream is. And I think you're absolutely right. People are, lost in the negative of what I don't want and afraid to look at what I really do want just in case I might not get there. And I want you to start thinking about what if I can get there. Because what I find in this work that we do is that people are achieving that vision in half the time they ever
Beth Lefevre:imagined. Absolutely.
LuAnn:Over and over and over again. And it's about that clarity, which is why clarity is the number one c in the playbook is that clarity is power. And when you get clear of exactly what it is you wanna create, then you start taking more decisive action. Decisions become easier and feel more in flow, as you said. Right?
LuAnn:And Mhmm. Things start to get created, just another sea in the in the sea of seas we talk about now in the playbook. And so
Beth Lefevre:Absolutely. You know, I wanna add something right here. You know, I I have this whole saying. And most of my life, I was a tractor. Pushing, pushing, pushing, going uphill.
Beth Lefevre:And after doing the passion test passion test for business, I became an attractor. And what's beautiful about that is it it it becomes effortless because that clarity that you're talking about, Luann, is so beautiful. When I am clear, all of a sudden, the people, places, and thing that might have been showing up anyway, I just didn't know that I needed it, wanted it, but have it. And once I have that clarity and I make a statement that says, you know, I have traveled to 38 countries around the world doing workshops, All of a sudden, I get calls in where before I'd be like, oh, I don't know how I can do that now. Well, I just declared it.
Beth Lefevre:I said I'm gonna go to this many countries, and I'm gonna do it. So when it shows up, it's always a yes. It's a yes because I already got clear.
LuAnn:Yes. When you are clear, what you want will show up in your life, but only to the extent that you're clear. Now let me change that. What you want will show up in your life and only to the extent that you're clear about what that is. Right?
LuAnn:Another one of my favorite quotes from the work and a great reminder, and it's it's not that it magically reappeared. It's that now I can see it.
Beth Lefevre:Right.
LuAnn:Now I can see it and know to say yes instead of hesitate.
Beth Lefevre:It might have been there all along, and I didn't know. And that's the thing that, you know, it feels like magic, but it's like, oh, my neighbor does this, and I didn't know because I never talked about what I do. You know? It it it is it feels magical. It feels magical.
Beth Lefevre:And it is just where am I putting my powerful attention. Right? And am I saying yes?
LuAnn:In the right moments.
Beth Lefevre:In the right well, because they start showing up. Well You know?
LuAnn:I think that another thing that a lot of business owners get lost in is what I call shiny object syndrome.
Beth Lefevre:Oh, but yeah.
LuAnn:Right? And they're always looking for the next best thing to make the next revenue stream in their business, but what they're doing is jumping all over the place and not moving forward because they're too disjointed. And so that clarity is so powerful because now I stay on track with where where I really know I wanna go and say yes to the right things that are gonna help me get there.
Beth Lefevre:100%.
LuAnn:Right? Yep. Yeah. And then a lot of the business owners that I work with typically, and you kinda mentioned this a minute ago, have left a toxic work environment. Right?
LuAnn:It's all those things they don't want, and they saw enough of what was going on in the company that they worked for that they're like, I no longer am accepting this practice, and I can do it better, so I'm gonna jump out and start my own business. And they do that, but they miss a step because they forgot to think about what it would mean to build a team of people and have had no experience of that on their own in most cases. And now they're out there trying to build a team. And what I hear them say to me is, I'm tired of being everybody's counselor. I'm tired of being, you know, everybody's babysitter.
LuAnn:And right? What they're really doing, in my estimation, is they're managing people instead of leading people. Would you agree?
Beth Lefevre:100%. You know, one of the things, if you are a startup, the passion test for business was developed in Hermosillo, Mexico. And it's one of the reasons I got to get involved because I do speak fluent Spanish, and they needed somebody to communicate with the team down there. And so Chris and I went down, and this was an amazing company. At the time, its name was Listen Up Espanol.
Beth Lefevre:That name has adjusted recently. What happened was they grew it was a call center that grew so fast. There was a group of 20 people. First two of them. They attracted some really great people.
Beth Lefevre:And when there was 20 people to manage, it was easy. They knew each other's values. They knew the culture. It it was easy to communicate with 20 people. But the system grew so fast that they started hiring more and more and more.
Beth Lefevre:Well, by the time we got there, there were 1,300 employees. Alright? Big difference. And they had never developed a system of how to communicate their culture. And so when we came in, that was the first step.
Beth Lefevre:Let's figure out what you're about, who you are as a company, what you wanna do, what are what are the things that matter most. So once they had those core ideas, it became their culture. Well then it was easy to communicate. This is who we are as a company. This is how we wanna benefit the community.
Beth Lefevre:This is how we wanna benefit you individually. And then as they had their passions and then their markers, which are the indicators of when you're living when a company's living that passion. When you have those, they then could create a culture action plan for every single department. Development had a different culture action plan than recruitment. You know, I mean, it was it was incredible.
Beth Lefevre:Well, what was amazing was they now could communicate their culture to the entire group because they had it written down. They sent it out to everybody. They asked their opinion. How do you think we could, you know, create this passion? How can we develop it more?
Beth Lefevre:And they became an entire team of 1,300 people as opposed to that initial core. Was amazing.
LuAnn:Right? I think the keyword in here is connection, and it's connecting the core values to the vision of where the company is going and creating culture around that.
Beth Lefevre:A 100%.
LuAnn:And and I heard once that Nordstrom's has a one page employee manual that says do the next right thing. Do the next right thing in alignment with our core values, and we're gonna back you up every time. So now the employees are empowered to make decisions based on core values and can run with things rather than being managed. Right? So you
Beth Lefevre:100%.
LuAnn:You're leading you're leading them by establishing those core values. And what Beth pointed out is that they're all in agreement of these are our core values. This is how we want to live and serve in the world. And then we take actions based on those core values. And so every department, every individual knows how to make good decisions because they know their core values.
LuAnn:So that's another funny one I've seen happen, Beth, is I'll ask people, tell me about your core values. Friend of mine's been in business for twenty five years, and I asked him that question. And he's like, well, let me see if I can find them, and then I'll tell you about them. And I'm like, no. No.
LuAnn:No. That is not what core values are for. They're not just on a piece of paper stuck in the drawer. They are a part of they must be infused into every aspect of your business to truly create culture.
Beth Lefevre:You know, I I love my my daughter's a regional manager for Nordstrom, so I always love that's what she does. Right?
LuAnn:I didn't know that.
Beth Lefevre:Yes. She is. And what's very, very cool is she has come up through the ranks, and they've been consistent. She's been with the company now for over twenty years. And there's a consistency that occurs with that company based on what you said, do the next right thing.
Beth Lefevre:That is really truly how they operate. And they do not get angry at somebody for taking an action that wasn't clear. You know, they might go back and say, you could've done it this way or you know? But they never get rid of somebody because they took an action that maybe it wasn't a 100% alignment, but they took an action. And so they actually congratulate that and said, good for you.
Beth Lefevre:How about if we, you know, do this? Or it was really, really cool to listen to the stories that my daughter comes with because there's so much support to take the next right action. That is right on.
LuAnn:So, much easier for me as an employee to make that decision when I have at least that foundation of those core values to go back to. And if that employee can explain to me what their action was about and how they felt it was in alignment, right? Absolutely. Congratulations. You thought it through.
Beth Lefevre:What matters most, I think, the hardest thing for people nowadays is they have a sense of not belonging. People want to belong. They want to create community. And I believe one of the things that matters is when you have a company and the culture is truly about creating community, that is the thing that makes people want to be a part of that. Right?
Beth Lefevre:So, you know, like she said something about Nordstrom doing the next best thing, you know, do the right thing. Because they feel a part of this community, this is their belonging. They want the best for the managers. Gels talks about the Nordstrom brothers. Right?
Beth Lefevre:Companies in in Hermosillo and Listen Up Espanol talk about, you know, the owners. They talk about family. They are a part of that community. I did some work with the government office of Miramar, Florida. And one of the things that was created was a community center which was pretty amazing, that really allowed them to create a place for community members to go that came from the government.
Beth Lefevre:Right? So having a sense of community allows this this piece of belonging, which is pretty darn amazing. A sense of belonging is a personal know, it says need I also teach a course for children, and there are needs that we have. And sense of belonging is one of the highest one. Love, feeling valuable, a sense of belonging.
Beth Lefevre:You want to be a contribution. The ability to create, experiment, and explore. Right? And so when we are part of a community, that sense of belonging makes us want to create value for the community. It wants us to absolutely, what is my part in this contribution?
Beth Lefevre:And I think it's one of the things that makes people or allows people to be a part of something bigger than themselves. That's what we're looking for. You know, they talk about hermits. The hermit goes away and he wants to be on his own. Well, guess what?
Beth Lefevre:Every single hermit you've ever read about has got a dog or animals or something to say, here here's my buddy. He knows I'm here. I exist. Right? My dog needs me.
Beth Lefevre:Here's this value. So even the hermits run off into the woods. You know, they've got somebody there kinda hanging out with them. So that's really important as a sense of community. And in community, what are our values that are in alignment?
Beth Lefevre:What what do we hold? Everybody in part of the community, they don't have to agree with 100% of what's going on. That's not what matters. It's what is my contribution to the whole? I am not everything for everybody.
Beth Lefevre:What is my peace? And as people in the culture of a business, of a government, of a school, it doesn't matter what the grouping is. It doesn't matter. All organizations, when you feel a contribution, what is my contribution to the whole? I think that's the thing that that really truly matters.
LuAnn:So, Beth, let's step back a minute and summarize what we've been talking about. We've been talking about the power of clarity and identifying what you want to be doing in your life and also in then creating that vision for a team if you have a team of people. But the vision is valuable for yourself, of course, as well. And then making the connection between that clarity and your vision, creating core values for everyone in the company to be able to be empowered to make decisions in alignment with what you're trying to create in the company. And lastly, you talked a little bit about community and summarize that for us.
Beth Lefevre:Yeah. You know what? What what I think is beautiful and really, imperative is in the passion test for business, not only is the company saying, this is what matters most to us. Right? And then people get to go in and say, oh, that sounds like it's in alignment with who I am.
Beth Lefevre:I wanna contribute to whatever that is. Also, you as a person in the company get to say, alright, what's my part in it? And so you as an employee gets to figure out what are my, What are the things that matter most to me as I bring them to my workplace? Right? Where am I gonna contribute my value?
Beth Lefevre:And I think it just raises the bar because not only does the company get clear on what you like to contribute, what is the thing that matters, but you get clear on what is it that I wanna contribute. That's part one. The second one is the employees get to say, why am I here? Why did I choose this company? How does it impact my life personally?
Beth Lefevre:And those are called core employee values. Right? So there's a lot of steps in here. And what I believe is when people discover, this is what matters to me. This is how I wanna be valuable to my company.
Beth Lefevre:This is my part. Right? Because it's so cool. I'm just gonna tell a quick story. We were in the past Please.
Beth Lefevre:Yeah, I I love the the stuff that happened, and it happened as we developed this process. Right? It was accidental, but it it developed on its own, which was just so cool. People, they had this was a call center, and they had products. And every product had a commercial.
Beth Lefevre:They had an ad that they would do. Right? And so the company would send the ad, and they would distribute it, then the call center would get calls. Well, there was a group of incredibly creative workers, right, managers, and they said, don't like their ad. We could do a better ad.
Beth Lefevre:And so they started going out into the community in Hermosillo, Mexico, and they would let somebody use their product and they would film the things they said and what they loved about it. And they started using those ads and they saw sales skyrocket. And so they formed this whole department that did not exist before of people that loved filming, editing, creating valuable content, and that became a part of their culture. It became their video recording department. It was publicity, and they stopped using the ads from the company.
Beth Lefevre:And the company's going, what are you doing different? And they said, we're filming our own ads. So that came as a result of the way that these people wanted to contribute. They formed this whole comp this whole department that now instead of being a call center, they were also creative. They were the creative guys.
Beth Lefevre:They were creating this content and going out into the public, filming, editing. So that became part of the company culture that did not exist before, and they loved every moment of it. So certain things happen as a result of people that say just another one. Somebody was doing, you know, filing or I don't know what they were doing. Did not love it.
Beth Lefevre:They wanted to be a manager. And so they started doing all these ideas. What if we did this and this and this? And they became the manager of their group, and all of a sudden, the company goes, I can't have you in the backroom filing. You need me be up here managing.
Beth Lefevre:Right? So as they discovered what is it that floats my boat, what gets me excited, The company started saying, if that's what gets you excited, that's where I want you because that's where they're passionate. We know that when you're around somebody passionate, that is an attraction. And so the company, once they knew they got clear in what do these employees love, Alright. Let's shift people around.
Beth Lefevre:It is it just was amazing for us.
LuAnn:Yeah. So you've brought in yet another c, and that's creativity, which is great. But that's exactly it. One of these builds on the other, and that's why the the six c's of the playbook exist because you have to start with clarity and then build upon that, and
Beth Lefevre:the
LuAnn:creativity will come. And inside that, you're building a community inside your company. And that's what it's about. Earlier, you talked about families. And it's like, well, we spend more time at work than we do with our family.
LuAnn:And we can create that family and environment, and it is the environment that we crave. Lynn McTaggart is another transformational leader I follow, and she says, if we had a label on us of how to take care of us, it would say store in community because we crave that community. This is why so many struggled through the pandemic. Right? And now we still work in diverse locations, but we still need to build that community even if we're not sitting in the same building.
LuAnn:So so much more to talk about, on the six c's of the make your passion pay playbook. This is only the beginning. This was a great session today, Beth. Say, one more question I wanna ask you before we go for today is just one life lesson. I know there's one in there that I love that you've taught me over the years.
LuAnn:Please share it with my audience.
Beth Lefevre:Yeah. I was separated from my husband. I was going through a struggle, And I woke up one morning, and I had a I mean, I literally, I woke up and this phrase, you know, was came out of my mouth. And I wrote it down. I immediately wrote it down because I said, you know what?
Beth Lefevre:It felt very important. And I started you know, I'd look at it, and then a couple times, it's I think I I do have it here. I have it now at my desk. And if you see it, it's been wrinkled. I've thrown it away a couple times because I said, this is BS.
Beth Lefevre:I don't believe in it. As I started living my life, I started saying, what if this was true? What if this was absolutely true? And instead of seeing where it was wrong, because I could find evidence every day that it didn't feel correct, I started living my life as if it was true. And you know what?
Beth Lefevre:My life changed. My life absolutely transformed a 100 I just can't believe how much it transformed. Alright? So here we go. I woke and I actually have the date on here.
Beth Lefevre:01:10 o eight, and it is very wrinkled. Alright? And it's it doesn't look so good. But I wanna keep the original because I remember that moment. Alright?
Beth Lefevre:Everything that anyone has ever done to me, with me, and for me comes from love. I say, William, everything that anyone has ever done to me, with me, and for me comes from love. And I looked at it, and I was like, what? It was funny because I had a silver marker. How how appropriate.
Beth Lefevre:I had a silver marker, and I had a bunch of cards. And when I woke up, I would always have these little things. Right? I would wake up with foresight.
LuAnn:It comes back to me when you say that what if. You've got to shift your mindset to say, what if this is true? And how can I find evidence that this is true? You see, what we do most of the time in our lives is we're looking for evidence to argue whatever we think is true is actually true. And we're building that evidence, and oftentimes we're building evidence of why we're not successful or why we don't have any money or this, that, and the other thing.
LuAnn:And we're proving all the things we don't want, which is where we started the conversation. Right? And so start to shift your mindset in the world and consider Beth's quote there one more time, Beth.
Beth Lefevre:Yep. And and I really wanna say what if. I'm gonna start what if. I want you to think what if everything that anyone has ever done to me, with me, or for me comes from love? And just a little example, you know, I I mentioned that I was separate from my husband.
Beth Lefevre:I was living in a on the beach. It was lovely. I'd wake up every morning, and there's the beach, and my life was pretty darn good. And I had been searching for a new relationship. It was like, alright.
Beth Lefevre:This one isn't working. You know? What what is it that I want? And I started one of the things that was always really wonderful is my husband and I were always we were very cordial to each other. We liked each other.
Beth Lefevre:I would even say we loved each other. We just kinda, you know, went down different paths. And I woke up and I started going, well, what if this separation comes from love? What if me living here and him living there comes from love? What if losing that job came from love?
Beth Lefevre:What is the best thing that ever happened to me? What if being transferred across the country? You know, whatever it is, what if it comes from love? Even the hard stuff, even the bad stuff, I'd kinda go I'd feel the sadness, and then I'd go, alright. If it doesn't feel like it came from love, this one doesn't feel loving.
Beth Lefevre:But if it was, let me start looking for evidence where that's true. I know. And
LuAnn:what good things happen afterwards. Right? There is that moment, and we we would talk about this too. Right? There is that moment, but feel the sadness, acknowledge it, that hurt.
LuAnn:You gotta feel it. You can't bury it. Right? And then move on to say, where is the evidence that that could have come from love? And I did that a lot during the pandemic.
LuAnn:Okay? I have no idea why this is happening, but I'm gonna look. And for me, I used the language silver lining. Where is the silver lining? And what I saw was love.
LuAnn:Yeah.
Beth Lefevre:Absolutely.
LuAnn:What I saw was love in my neighbors, in the communities, in the world, as people reaching out and sharing love with one another. So consider that By the
Beth Lefevre:way, good news good news. I just wanna add one more thing. We were separated five years. We're back together.
LuAnn:We just had our fifty second wedding anniversary. Congratulations. That is awesome.
Beth Lefevre:Very, very cool.
LuAnn:That's another story, but we'll have Beth we'll have Beth come back, I'm sure, again because we share a lot of commonalities in this discussion of the six t's to the c's to the make your passion playbook. So thanks again, Beth, for being with us today. Really appreciate
Beth Lefevre:your patience. Care. Love it. Love to all of you.
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