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We share stories of how the blood of Jesus has transformed ours and others' lives.
Hey everybody. Welcome to Red Ledger. I'm Denalee and this is my friend Lisa Frazier. Hello, hello. We have so much in store for you. Holy Spirit is bringing it today. That's right. Thank you. God. Yeah. So Lisa, it's your birthday. It's my birthday. Happy birthday. Oh, thanks. Um, I wanted to talk to you about something you had a hard time wanting to celebrate your birthday because you didn't want to be the center of attention.
Right. Lisa didn't know I was gonna say that. I know. Let's, I was like, where's the Holy Spirit on that one? I thought this was Holy Spirit driven. Whatcha doing? I didn't realize I was in the
friends. Aren't they great? Uh, so awesome. No, I'm excited to celebrate you and your birthday. I was thinking about myself actually when I thought that, when I actually am uncomfortable with it too. Yeah. And I think it was, we didn't really celebrate birthdays like when I was growing up. No. Um, but I think it's awesome and I think God wants us to Yeah.
I mean, for other people he really does. Like, when I think of my daughter or my son or my husband, you know, but I don't need that. I, you know, for me to even be on this podcast is a shock to me. I, I, I enjoy the talking, but I could, I, I'm not a person that wants the attention. I don't, well, I don't like that.
I think it's more of, I want you. Because, you know, I want you to have everything that God has for you and me too. Yeah. And I have a hard time with this too, so I totally understand it. Yeah. Um, I think God wants us to celebrate the wins. Yeah. And I think he wants us to celebrate the victories in life and at our age.
Isn't that another year a victory? Uh, it totally is. I didn't think I'd make it this, this long. You really didn't, didn't, you've said that a few times. Yeah. And given our history of how we grew up and the risks we've put ourself in, right. Like the high, I had a pretty high risk life. You, yeah. Okay. I already know.
Yes. Um, it's awesome that we're here. Yeah. And it is awesome that we. Walking with God, we are rooted in him. Right, right. And we need to celebrate that. Yeah, I agree. And celebrate. 'cause he created you perfectly. And you're perfectly, wonderfully fearfully made you were knitted in your mother's womb and I think it's okay to celebrate that.
Because some religions don't. Right. Yeah. You know, my grandma, um, did not celebrate birthdays. Oh, she didn't celebrate those things. Was that something with her, uh, religion or, yes. Oh, it was. I think in, I think there's other, I'm aware of somebody else in our family who has a, another religion that they grew up in.
Yeah. And they don't celebrate birthdays. Yeah. Well, and. I think it's a fear of putting yourself first, right? Yes. Because we don't wanna do that. We wanna be humble, we wanna be servants. But I've seen scripture where also it's okay to celebrate the glorification of God within us, right? Yeah. Yes, that's true.
Mm-hmm. And he made us, and he is our creator. And I wonder, I don't know if any of this is gonna go on the podcast, but I just wonder if part of the reason. It's so easy for people to have an abortion is because humans are not celebrated like in the right way. Yeah. I don't think we need to exalt ourselves.
I don't think we need to. No. But I think it could be a day to honor God. Totally. Being grateful. Being grateful of the life he's given us. Being grateful of our purpose that he's given us. Yeah, I can see that for sure. Yeah. When you don't celebrate, um, somebody mm-hmm. As a person, as an individual, then maybe their life isn't taken or considered precious or mm-hmm.
Um, you know. If you can just discard life and life is discarded a lot. Mm-hmm. Especially in, in America. Mm-hmm. We discard life. Well, it's become acceptable. Yeah. It's become acceptable. And this is what I saw in hospice with, um, my father. Yeah. And, um, Dave's father was just at his end of his life too, going through that, um, care and it really felt like murder.
It felt like we killed my dad. Yeah. Um, and this is why in case you haven't been through this, this wasn't normal. I've never heard of this before, but you know, I haven't been through it before. Right. You know, my sister had with her stepdad, or who raised her, so it was her dad. Yeah. And so she kind of understood it, but still had not seen what I'd seen.
So what happens when. Somebody goes into hospice or the end of life care, they withdraw food and water. Yes, they do. I've seen that. It, which is what kills them. Yeah. I had somebody recently, um, contact me and ask me to come, her husband was dying. Mm-hmm. Was in the hospital. He was having, he was in the midst of heart failure and she wanted me to lay hands on him.
Um, and she wanted, you know, life put back in him how, you know, however, the healing right, she wanted the healing. And, you know, I, I believe in healing. Mm-hmm. I believe that, you know, Jesus praised people from the dead and that power lives inside of me. So I've had healing, um, yeah, I've had healing. I've had, I've had multiple healings.
Multiple, yeah. Um, so of course I will come and lay hands on the sick. Yes. And so I went and, and prayed. There was a, a gal and I, we went together and we prayed over him. And what happened was. They, that was the first thing they said, well, we've gotta remove the food and the water from him. And I was like, this doesn't make sense.
It did not make sense to me. Like, it still doesn't make sense to me because if you're, if you're already dying, yes, if you're dying, then let the person die. You, you shouldn't have to remove everything in order for them to die, because that, to me, increases the suffering. Because I watched how thirsty he was.
Yes. And I was like. Well, that doesn't seem peaceful. No. And I think so now you're gonna up the morphine, so. Right. I mean, so that's what happened with my dad and I, I will say my dad did choose this, like this is the route he chose. Yeah. I wonder though if he knew what he was getting into because it was shocking.
Yeah. Now I will say he had pancreatic cancer and was in a great deal of pain. Mm-hmm. Um, but it, it did seem like I just had seen him. A couple weeks before. Yeah. And he wasn't this bad and I know that he, um, it moved fast 'cause he was diagnosed with one B in July, which is stage one. Like he had years to live and he died in I want October.
Oh yeah. They went from July to October. Yes. Which was suspicious. That is, and I. I had a really hard time with this. This was two years ago, right? Yeah, I think, and because it was so horrific and weird, and I don't know that it was all his decision, I think he was pushed in that direction and I saw this happen.
I. With the doctors, with my father-in-law too. And this is kind of the state of our care now, where doctors are making you feel like this is the right thing to do. This is the proper thing to do. Yeah. This is just how we do it. Yeah. This is what happens when somebody gets dementia is what happens. This is what white paper says right here that we got handed down.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's really, um, if you trust doctors, which. You know, I, I don't completely trust anyone I know. I, I haven't for a long time. Yeah. 'cause of, of the, the deals that, that I've experienced throughout my life, the problems that I have had, and. You know, the telling me, oh, well this is just normal for girls to go through this.
That started at 13. Mm-hmm. And that, you know, nobody could ever figure out what was wrong. It's just normal and so we'll take this out, we'll take that out. They never told me that if I stopped drinking and smoking, that my gallbladder could potentially, you know, heal if I changed how I ate. Well, we'll just take it out.
Okay. So this is what happened with my mom. She had diverticulitis. Yeah. And, um, they gave her morphine in the emergency room, which can really hurt you. Like, 'cause it increases your, um, the gas increases in your intestines, uhhuh, and you're already vulnerable there because there's pouches in your colon, right?
So you can die, you can go septic and die. Oh. So I remember going through the process with her and asking, well, what should she do? What should she eat? And they said no nuts and seed. Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And so that was pretty much what we got. Right. And so I went on a huge research. I ended up writing a cookbook for people who suffer from this because I was so frustrated with the medical care.
Yeah. And I think that was the beginning of my distrust of doctors. Mm-hmm. And I talked to my friend about it, who's a doctor? And she goes, we're practicing, you know. We don't know everything. Yeah. We're practicing. We have specialties. I can appreciate that. Yeah. I can, I, and you know, those are the people that I want to Yes.
Get in a, the relationship with because I believe that I should be an advocate for myself Right. And do my own research because, uh, my body is not the same as yours. Mm-hmm. And to, to put us in the same box or anybody in the same box. Mm-hmm. I think is. I, I don't think that's wisdom. And I think you, meaning the self should be an advocate for yourself and, and it should be a two way street.
This is what I think. I think we include God totally and I think that's the part that is missing in science. Yeah. But when you do have, um, a gifted doctor who is also a Christian and listens to the spirit Yeah. I think it's a life changer. Yeah. So I think of Dr. Caroline Leaf. Oh, I love her. Yeah, I love her too.
So she's a neuroscientist. Yeah. Who's done a great deal of work. Mm-hmm. On cleaning up our mental masses and yes, understanding the neuroplasticity in our brain because we used to believe that if you got brain damaged, that was it. Yeah. You're done. Yeah. But. Part of what she has discovered and learned is our brain is neuroplastic and can rebuild and can change.
Right. And so that has brought a lot of healing to many people. Mm-hmm. Which is interesting 'cause it is very much in line with the word Right. About renewing of your mind. Yeah, totally. Which is really cool. So I do think it's awesome when you can find that that mix of somebody who understands that, you know, God is sovereign.
Yeah. Um, science usually. I mean, I can't think of a time where I can't find it in the Bible. Yeah, yeah. You know, science is always behind. Yeah. And it's, it's pretty interesting to me. Yeah. But I am seeing this hospice care. Yeah. Um, or, and I, I'm sure it's different for every situation. I'm just telling you about the two situations that I've recently been part of.
Yeah. And it seems almost like a trend. So if you look at Canada, you know, um. People are being euthanized, ah, they're being euthanized because they don't have enough money to pay bills. So I recently saw a couple different stories. One of 'em was, um, because it's legal there, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. And so this woman got stuck with a pretty big sickness.
She's a single mom, didn't have the resources it was gonna take to take care of herself, to get this better. And so their plan was to euthanize her. This is socialized medical care. Right. This is where we're headed. Yeah. And I was like, oh gosh, that would never happen in the us. And then I went through this.
Yeah. And I'm like, oh, my husband said this. 'cause he was a little upset about what was happening with his dad too. Yeah. And he didn't have a whole lot, I mean, he had an opinion, but I don't know that he had the say. Because I think there's a lot of trust in doctors in that older generation. His, yeah. His family's older than me.
Like Yes. I, I have a lot of those in my family. Yeah. That just. Blindly trust in people. And, and I'm not saying that that doctors aren't trustworthy, but I am saying that they make mistakes. They're fallible. They're fallible. I'm fallible. And so it's better for me to back up whatever they're saying. Mm-hmm.
Or for it to resonate, like you said, spiritually. Right. And um, too, with the research that I've done, I'm not just saying Google it. I'm saying do actual research, read studies, learn how to read studies. Yes. If you don't know how. Really cool thing you can do now with AI is to insert it into the AI I and have it explain it to you if you don't understand the jargon.
Yeah. Or call my son. Yeah. So, yeah, that's good. But um, I'm just joking. He doesn't want you to do that.
I don't know. Maybe he does. Tyler, you or Trevor? He wants some phone. It's, yeah, Trevor's the scientist. Oh, he does? Yeah. Okay. Well then maybe Trevor wants phone calls. I dunno. I don't think so. But anyway, so I'm seeing the state of the care changing too, and, and it happens to be with elderly people too who are getting kind of treated this way.
Like, okay, you're done. Or the experiments over, right? So I saw with my mom who was in the hospital, unbelievable how they treated her when I was not in the room with her. Yeah. Unbelievable. Yeah. Um, the state of medical care is, is a problem. Yeah. I think that is contributing to this. They don't have enough help.
Right. Um, I think some of this is experimentation. Mm-hmm. And I don't think people signed up for it. Well, yeah. I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if it's experimentation. Um. I believe that it is. How's your, what? It's a po. It's, it's possible. I'm a drinking problem. For those of you on Spotify, I just built water all over my face.
Okay. I have to just say what happened. I. Recently have retainers. Yeah. Um, aligners, yes, because of my bottom teeth should match, should match that. So I took them out. But there's still these things that are sticking out on my teeth that hold it in place, Uhhuh. So I took it out for you guys. You're welcome.
Seriously, you'll just be talking like this, like Sid. And so it's weird to have weird things in your mouth, and I know I have retainers, so now I have a drinking problem. I have retainers too, and I talk like that the same way just and spit comes out. It's awesome. Do you remember Airplane, the movie?
Airplane? Yes. Who's got a drinking problem? No, I'm not that old. I'm not that old. If you haven't seen it, go see it. So back to the serious people about, um, people killing our families after airplane. Um, well, I guess my, I'm frustrated because I think it's really wrong and I don't think people know are happening.
So I got in a little fight with somebody on Twitter recently, and he called me an idiot. Oh. And not the first time. Exactly. Not the first time. If you don't agree with me, I'm gonna call you a name. Yeah. Well that's kind of the argument if you don't have one, right? Yeah. But I might have been an idiot in previous conversations.
I just don't think I was in this one. Okay, well, what happened? Well, we were kind of talking about my dad's situation. Yeah. And how it feels a little like murder. Yeah. Well, abortion also doesn't feel like murder to this person and killing an old person or euthanizing a person in Canada doesn't also feel like murder.
Yeah. And I, I do get, there's, there's part of me that is, if you signed up for this, it's your choice. Right. You get to choose to live. That's, yeah. That's, that's one of the things that I had said, you know, this is something that maybe he signed up for. There's, there's people in my family that just, mm-hmm.
Whatever the doctor says, they just do. And, and I'm going, well wait a minute. No, that doesn't make sense. I don't know that you should be doing that. And then I show research mm-hmm. That contradicts that. And they believe, they really believe that I drank some sort of Kool-Aid, the cuckoo Kool-Aid. Um, because I don't subscribe to what these doctors say.
And, and, and I'm going, okay, so. What do they have in your, like when they view you, you are just a patient. Mm-hmm. You're on Medicare, Medicaid, you're an experiment, so you are money coming in, but to me, yeah. You are a value. Mm-hmm. You are my mother. Yes. You are my brother. Yes, you are my, whatever, whatever the person is.
I'm not, I'm not put putting my mom or my brother out there. I'm just saying you are a, a relative or a friend or somebody of mine that I truly care for. Do they care for you like I do? No. Are they really doing the research for you? I mean, I know they took an oath to, um Oh. Help you. I think, I think even in these instances, these doctors really believe this is the, the best idea.
Yeah. I, I agree. If we look at COVID, Uhhuh, I think there's a lot of doctors who really thought it was a really good idea to, that's, yeah. I think they thought it was a great plan. I agree. And I have family members that did. Yep. And my dad was one of them. Right. And, um, so. I know he trusted, you know, medical industrial complex.
Yeah. And you know, this is what I thought used to make me liberal is I didn't trust big pharma. Yeah. You know? Well that did make you liberal back in the day. Yeah. I. It did. And I don't know how that changed over an election. It changed. Yeah, it did. Over an election. They were not, um, yeah. Liberal folks. I was a hippie man.
Yeah. Liberal folks were anti Yeah. We don't, we the granola guys, Uhhuh uhhuh. And now it's like completely flipped. I know. Which is interesting. So life and death has become political instead of spiritual. Yeah. What least in America? Oh, it's true. Maybe it's some others. No, I mean, no, I mean, I like if you look at Canada and some Canada of these other places, Canada places that where they're euthanizing and abortions just fine.
And I get it, you know, I didn't understand abortion maybe even until, I don't know, I, my stance on it changed in 2019 when the Democrats got some nine month, um, you could have a, an abortion up to nine months. Ugh. For medical reasons. I think it's New Jersey or New York. I'll post it if you don't believe me.
'cause it is true. Yeah. And. They stood, those women stood in thunderous applause. And I thought, this is ghoulish. Because for some reason in my head I thought it was okay up until six weeks. 'cause it wasn't that big of a conversation. I didn't think about it. It wasn't something I was dealing with or thinking about.
No. I was thinking, okay, if somebody gets raped.
I don't know. Like, I don't know. I mean, I, I thought that same way. Yeah. It took even after getting saved mm-hmm. It took a while before, yes. I really, I mean, all had, but their sanity of life experiences where there was like a quickening within me mm-hmm. That told me it was wrong. I still never fully subscribed to it.
Yes. I, I didn't, I never fully subscribed to this is not okay. I, I, I did not until. The Lord gave me more and more revelation, and I was like the ghoulish ness of a nine month old getting killed. I just, I can't, which I, I just, I get it. I think, and I think in the liberal mindset, which was possibly mine as well, was it is for medical reasons.
Well, that already exists. So to me, this is paving the way for something bigger, but most of the time. Abortions are not for medical reasons. No, they're for selfish. Mine were, they're for convenience. It was for selfish reasons. Yes. So I wish I could say that it was, you know, medical. It's all on me. It's all on me.
And, um, nobody else owns that. I mean, the, you know, the guy does, but, but it's on me. It's on me. And the choice that I made and. It's a life. It is a life. Mm-hmm. And I, you know, science is usually behind the Bible, but science catches up. Mm-hmm. So I pray that science catches up and that people's hearts and minds are changed because at the end of the day, it's not a carrot that comes out.
It's not a potato, it's not, it, it's a living, breathing human that has its own DNA and has its own life. Mm-hmm. Um, that. We are just taking, because we don't wanna do it by ourselves. We don't wanna do, you know, whatever the, it's whatever. I'm hearing a lot of the reason is financial. Financial. That's what I'm hearing.
It's, it's hard. Mm-hmm. It's hard. And, and it's true. Kids are expensive. Kids are very expensive. They're worth it. Mm-hmm. They're worth every sack of rice you make. Yeah. But they're expensive emotionally, I have to say. They're expensive all the way around. I am so sorry because when I started this conversation, I had completely forgot about that.
Mm. And um, then when I said the word, I was like, oh, no. Why? Um, I think it's important to talk, I think it's your story to talk about. It's not for me to bring out of you. Well, you know, it's not fun. Yeah. Um, but if I can say something that will stop somebody else from making the same decision I made. Yeah, you bet.
I wanna help 'em. Because you don't wanna live with that. No, I mean, and I know I'm forgiven. I know all the things, but mm-hmm. You know. It, it's not, it's not pleasant. It's not, I don't, I see, um, some women, um, they're on a, I don't know if you know who Lila Rose is. Yes. But she is a, I love her. She's great.
Mm-hmm. I saw one of her podcasts where she had a doctor. Who performed abortions, Uhhuh, and a young woman who'd been through 'em. And another guest, I can't remember. I think it was two doctors and a woman and who had been through the process and what it had done to them. Mm-hmm. And, and it's like all sin, right?
You get desensitized to it. Can you be, imagine a doctor doing 300 to 600 abortions a year. Hmm. They were desensitized to it until just one day God laid on their heart. Yeah. What this was Yeah. Forever changed them. Yeah. And one of these was like a prolific abortionist, like Yeah. Fighting for the rights, everything.
Mm-hmm. And, um, saw God in all of it. Yeah. And I think when you. I think our society is moving toward a disregard for human life. Totally. Like in in every way. Yeah. In every way. And I guess we can see it through abortion and through, um, how we're treating our elderly. Yeah. And hospice care or, you know, I, I still believe in miracles.
I've seen miraculous healing. Yeah. I have too. So I have a hard time saying. Okay, let's shut the water and the food off and turn up the morphine. I have a hard time with that too, and I, I really have a hard time with that. And if that's, if that is what you have to do to allow somebody to die, then it's not their time.
You know? It's just Right. It just doesn't make sense to me. Well, that's not really natural. I understand. Not like if, you know, my mom and I have talked about this extensively. 'cause we just went through this with my husband's father mm-hmm. And of what she wants and. She doesn't wanna be in pain. Nobody wants to be in pain.
Right, right. Yeah. I'm okay with morphine for sure. Lock it up. Yeah. But I need to be careful because there's other people involved. Um, and it's not fair to share somebody's story, you know, that I don't have permission with, but I'll say this, when somebody goes into a hospital and is speaking and talking and doesn't need IVs.
Yeah. That's one thing. Yeah. Um, but then when you create the problem. Uh, by drugging somebody and taking away their food and water and then they become non-responsive. Yeah, that's, I'm having a hard time with that. Yeah. I'm really having a hard time with it. Mm-hmm. And I think it's wrong. I do too. There is a good argument, you know, on the other side of things that this person's gonna be in pain.
This is not gonna get better. Right. And. You know, and if that's that person's choice, I, I understand. Yeah, I do too. And I agree with that. But I think we sign these. And the reason I wanna talk about this, I think sometimes when we sign these DNRs and we think about this. Uh, what I would've put on A DNR is not the same.
Now. It's not. No. Because your beliefs are ever changing. Yes. So what I, I signed 10 years ago is ever changing. Yeah. What I signed 10 years ago. Yes. I wouldn't sign today. No, I would not sign today. Um, you know, God didn't promise us that there would not be suffering. Right. And there would not be. I see what Jesus did on the cross and not that I'm expecting anyone to, to go through that.
I mean, no, we do live in a, a different world and I get that, but there might be a little suffering at the end. Yeah. I don't want there to be for any of you watching this, and I pray that. Right. I pray that you go peacefully in your sleep. Yeah. But, but should that not be the case, um. My dad was in horrific pain.
Yeah. I mean, I think that was the difference between my dad and, um, Dave's dad. Horrific pain, like crying out, screaming out pain that's so horrible for Dave. Where's the mercy? And, and, and suffering. You know? And that, I mean, where's the mercy in that? Where when we can do something to help them. Yeah. I think it's so, I believe for myself, I, I don't, I don't wanna be like, I'm just suffering, praise God, and I'm gonna die.
No, I, I don't, because I don't think there was value in his suffering at that point where he couldn't even, no, it's not suffering for Christ's sake. It's, it's suffering because of, you know, sickness. An illness. Yes. So it's, I think it's a really tough conversation, but I think it's a conversation families need to have about what they really want.
I agree. So if you, um, do, do a DNR and let's say you go into the hospital and your mom breaks her hip. Okay. So my mom, I'm not gonna, I don't wanna say that on anyone's mom in particular. I'm just that this is a hypothetical and. She's becoming forgetful, but she's okay. She's still drives, she's still communicating.
Right, right. Um, still getting around town, but now that they've got her medicated, she seems a little hallucinate. Like she's hallucinating ah. They're like, oh, this is dementia. I don't receive that for her. Mm-hmm. I don't receive that. Okay. And then I think that's really, let's give her more medication. I think people really need to, um, learn those words.
Yeah. I do not receive that. Yeah. That, that helps shield me whenever, um, somebody judges me or a doctor has given me a diagnosis. Thank you. I appreciate it. And it might be fact. It might be fact that whatever. Right? But I don't receive it. Nope. Because if I receive it, then I take it into my heart and and things that it becomes a heart issue.
And then I have to fight that as well as whatever the things, and then are we listening to God? And then are we listening to God? Are we listening to God for where we go next? Yeah. And I think that no matter what the report you give from a doctor, from anyone. Yeah. He is your healer. Yeah. He is your comforter.
He is your salvation. Right. This is where we look. Yeah. This is where we look to guidance. And I might not, I'm not saying we don't go to doctors. No. I go to, I would, I would go to a doctor. I try not to. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie, I, I try avoid it. Yeah. Um, I try everything else first. Yeah. Um, you know, but I, and I've been healed of many things by prayer.
Yeah. But I've also still take medication. Yes. For something that I have not received. Healing for, right? Mm-hmm. And I think when we do life with God, it means in all the parts. Yeah. Not just in how we take care of our kids. Yeah. He's, he's first in mind when, when there's an issue for me, my husband or my children mm-hmm.
Or my mother or anybody in my family, I go to him first. I go to the Lord first and I pray about it. And then I do research on it. If, if I feel like I need to or maybe I just keep speaking against it and. And I speak the word over it, um, which a lot of times then I don't have to go to the doctor. No. But if for some reason I'm not receiving that healing, I don't know why, and I, whatever, I don't care.
I'll just keep persevering and walking it out. And I will use the resources of people that God gave me that studied the body, that have studied medicine mm-hmm. That do wanna really help me. And I've found those people versus the, um. The person that's just like, you know, trying to get you in a script, like you're on a script.
Yeah. I, I, I'm not interested in that. I'm not interested in a close-minded doctor who doesn't want me to participate in my healthcare. Yeah. I'm not interested in a doctor who is so. Rigid that he is the last and final authority. Yeah. On everything that he has, all the wisdom and I have none. I don't like that.
No, I don't either. And I think there are doctors out there who do want to cooperate and collaborate with you and your healthcare uhhuh, and you need to find them. Yeah. Because when somebody thinks they're a God, they're not gonna ever receive from God. Yeah. I, I have those doctors in my life and those nurses and, and those facilities in my life where they, um, help me to improve my health.
Um, and, and that don't just give me the bandaid and say, oh, you're, you're symptom free. Okay, well, what happens if I stop taking the pill? The symptom returns? Yes. Or so did my, and, and I truly believe that our bodies were designed to heal themselves. That's why we have an immune system. Yeah. Yeah. We were made to live.
We weren't made to die. This brings an interesting, um, thing that I was just reading about, the Amish, because they grow up in the farming. Yeah. You know, Uhhuh, they're, they have. Such access to dirt and germs and everything. They just don't get sick like we do. No, they don't get obese like we do. And they, they don't eat great.
No. I mean, they're eating full fat, full carb, all the fun stuff. They're eating everything you want. They're having meat, potatoes, cheese, and all of it. Yeah. But they, they make it on their land. Yes. It's not in some Yes. Processed factory full of, full of bio. Here's some red dye, we're gonna add some yellow and make it a, you know.
Yes. And they move all day. And they move. Yeah. Yeah. You get, we're made to move. Mm-hmm. We're made to rest one day. That's true. I don't think we're made to sit at a computer all day. No. No, that's why. So here's my plug. That's why I enjoy red ledger gifts. So that truly, this was a fun plug, but um, I love selling.
Bibles and our journals and our things because I get to, I get a break during the day 'cause I do my own shipping. We're a small outfit. Yeah. Yeah. And I get to wrap 'em and pray over these and pray over 'em and send them out. And you know what's great is the Lord will give you word on these people. Yes, he does.
And, and I not always, sometimes he's just like say thank you on God bless. Yeah, for sure. And and sometimes I get a word. Yeah. And I think it's. He knows who's ready to receive what. Yeah. I got a pretty long word for a, a gal this morning, so it kind of fun. Oh. I was like, I hope she can read this. 'cause my handwriting's so at church.
Oh, praise the Lord. That's awesome. Yeah. And then I was like, I hope that's God and not me. Yeah. So that's a good treat. Yeah, I know. It's su it's super fun. Yeah. Um, so I love that. 'cause I'm standing and I'm moving during the day more than I ever did. Mm-hmm. Just sitting at the computer. Yeah. So that's really fun.
So, um. You don't have to buy a gift. Have me pray over you. You can also just comment in the section below and we would be happy to pray over you. We would love to. Yeah. So anyway, back to celebrating your life and our lives and remembering what God created was life. And there's sanctity in that. Yeah, there's, there's, um, a beauty in that that you can see.
The devil is really. Really working. And I love to go back to the sixties where I feel like this all started, but I mean, it's since the beginning of time, Cain and Abel. Right? Right. Oh, well since the garden even. Mm-hmm. You know, the devil trying to thwart the plans of God and then death started, right?
Yeah. Right. That's where death started. We weren't meant to die. We weren't, um. Adam and Eve were not meant to die. No. They had got banished and the wages of sin are death. Mm-hmm. That's where we're at. And I think there's a lesson of, you know, obviously in Adam and Eve and being banished and, and having to die uhhuh.
Right. Um, I don't think they wanted to. No, I don't think they wanted to be banished from the garden. No. I think they wanted to be in God's presence and they wanted to live. Yeah. Um, I think the enemy. Who brought on sickness, and God gets blamed for this, but the enemy brought on sickness. God gets blamed for all of that.
Why does he allow it then the, you know? No, but he, why does he allow it? Why I think, God, that I think God did that to you. No. Uh oh. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Well, you know, one of the things that I've heard when I've explained things going on in my life, so why do you think God had you go through this? I don't think God had me go through this.
No, I think I'm going through it for whatever decision I made or someone else made, or someone else made in my life that influenced my decision or my, my life and negatively impacted it. God is good. God is love. This is not good. This does not. It's an oxymoron. They do not fit in the same, God did not create cancer.
No. Cancer was like, could have been created in a lab. We don't know. Yeah. But I will say this all, although the toxins and bad things that create cancer are used by a lot of Grady Corporations. Yeah. To fix you within other pharmaceuticals. Yeah. Or to keep the weeds off your lawn. Yeah. Um, yeah. We, we bring that upon ourself.
Yeah, I agree. We don't wanna go use vinegar on our weeds. Yeah. So we use, I'm not gonna say it out loud, you're not gonna get me, so we use something else.
I'm not gonna do it. Not gonna, not gonna go there and not gonna get demonetized. I'm not gonna not make my $3 on this video. We fight for every penny here. Yeah. We're all about the, uh, penny candy. You know, we like the penny candy. We cook the candy store after this.
So anyway, my, my point is, is the enemy, uh, you know, obviously I think this is, if I see the enemy in sickness. Yeah. Um. You can see how he was integral in moving Adam and Eve out of the garden. 'cause he was jealous. Right? Right. Yeah. And he has pride and, and this is where the beginning of sickness started because there is now death.
Yeah. And you can see the evil of sickness and the destruction it causes. Yeah. And the pain it causes. And that is not who God is. No, I Do you see any scripture in the Bible where he gave somebody a sickness? No. No, no, no. I see where he healed people of sicknesses. Mm-hmm. I see where he helped people through them, and I see where people, it, it, it became their own destruction.
The word, uh, 1 0 7. In, in Psalms 1 0 7 I sent, um, he sent the word and it healed them from their destruction. That's awesome there. There meaning ours, so not his. So we should value life because God values life. Yes. Right. He created life. He made us for life. Yes. He didn't make us for death with him, for relationship with him.
Yeah. I remember when God first showed me how much he cared about me. I know it's, this might be silly to you guys watching, but um, I used to teach holy yoga. I don't anymore. And that is on our next podcast. Why? I don't, but I will say this. He met me there. He met me where I was at and I was trying to do a plank and I was like, I just couldn't understand, like I knew the words, I knew the instructions 'cause I was doing my training, but I couldn't kind of get my body in the right position.
Nothing felt right, and I was just praying to him out loud on my mat. And I could just feel my body kind of move. Hmm. It rocked my world. 'cause I was like, you care. You care about something. I care about. Like this is so small. Yeah. And he cared about me. Right. I. He cares about the ridiculous parts of our life.
Yeah. Like that a plank, who cares? Yeah. There's people starving. Right? Right. So that's what I always think. Like people have bigger problems. Me, like why would God care about me? But you know, if he did care, we're made his image. And so when you think of your children, and for those of you that don't have children, you can, you know, think of your loved ones.
Mm-hmm. You know, boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, um, friends, parents. You rejoice when they have victories. Yeah. You, and when you see them struggling, you for the most part, people wanna help. Mm-hmm. And, and even for the little things, oh, you need help moving this desk. Okay, let me help you. And, you know, is that a big deal?
No, these are first world problems. You know, it's not that you're starving, it's not that your, your water's dirty. I mean, we have clean water, we have all the things. It's, it's. I care about this and I care that you lift this and I care. I don't want you to move it by yourself. Um, we're made in his image, so we have the same, he, he shows through us that, that we care about.
We care about the same things that he does. It, it can be fun things too. Yeah. Like it doesn't all have to be bad, right? No. Like Jesus made more wine at a wedding. Yeah. Like he cared that. People had what they wanted and needed. That's when it first started. He was trying to, he was trying to wait, but, but Mary comes in there and she's like, okay son, now's the time.
We're outta wine. People wanna get liquored up.
But it was a celebration. Right. Um, I'm not saying don't go celebrate and drink a bunch of wine. No, I'm saying that. He brought what they needed. Yeah. And it was fun. And it was good. And he cared. Yeah, totally. He cared. He cared. I mean, Mary really cared. Yeah. But, but he cared what Mary, but he cared what Mary wanted.
He cared what Mary wanted. He's like, that's my mom. That's pretty cool. That is. So this circles me back to your birthday. Oh, I thought we had moved on beyond that. No. This is the celebration that we need to celebrate. Um. We have to celebrate life. Yes. And these wins and a birthday. Mm-hmm. That we made it, that we're closer to God, that we're not who we were five, 10 years ago.
Yeah. Whatever we need to align that celebration with. 'cause I think of it as my birth in Christ now. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Like, and so I do a birthday walk with God and you can talk to God every day My husband tells me, but. And I do, but he thinks he's funny. Yeah. So, but I like to really go on this really. Private walk with God.
Yeah. And spend time just talking to him and he does. He just shows up in a big way. For me on this day, it's kind of like this annual celebration we do where it is like really about me and God and me hanging out, asking him silly questions about nothing important. That's awesome. Yeah. And, and I probably should do more of that every day.
'cause I tend to get heavy with him every day. Like, yeah, well, you know, we're praying for people. I'm praying for who he wants me to be in this day. And it's not silly. It's not, it's more. It's more fun on my birthday. It's a celebration. Well, and, and, and God is all about celebration. Um, you know, multiple times throughout the Bible.
You know, just like, even like what you were talking about with Jesus, you know, he turned water into wine. Um, he was at a celebration. Yeah. He, he was at a, a wedding, right? Yes. Yeah. Yes. And he was celebrating, um. So, you know, it's all about communion and celebrating and getting together and, and I don't necessarily mean taking the communion and Right.
I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm meaning commune. Right. And he wants to commune with us. Well, it can be that, right? Yeah, it can be. We're breaking bread with God in our friends. For sure. For sure. Yeah. And having a glass of wine with God in our friends. I mean, I'm not drinking, but I'm just saying I'm looking forward to breaking bread with my friends today.
Yes. Yeah. I'm too, yeah. I'm looking forward to celebrating that. I have a friend who. Loves Christ. Mm-hmm. Who is doing this Walk with me who I don't know is showing up for a podcast whether people listen or not. Yeah. Like we're doing this. Yeah. For our three. Yeah. I owe you a dollar 50 owe. Just put in the friendship Anyways.
So I guess that's what, um, I want us to be reminded that life is precious and we should. Hold it with deep regard, just like God did. Yeah. And, and I get, if you've went down a road and you've made a choice. I, I didn't stand up for my dad. I didn't stand up for him in that moment. I was too afraid. 'cause I knew my stepmom would kick me outta the room.
And so I I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. I am. And I, I was just fortunate that she let me in the room, um, because we did, we were estranged and, um. We just did not have a relationship, her and I. So, and we weren't friends at that time? No. Because I would've really, we were, we were acquaintances. Uh, 'cause you did pray over me.
Yeah. That was the first time I was like, whoa, that's what prayer's supposed to look like. It's that, um, that fighter in me. Yeah. And so I, I didn't, um. I didn't do a few things that I would like nobody to ever do. I didn't, um, I didn't sure make sure my dad was saved. Mm. And that was really, really hard for me.
I'm sure. Um, I, I did pray over him when she wasn't in the room. We weren't allowed to be alone with him until, um. Tell he could no longer communicate. And so, and I'm quite sure this was part of the reason, um, because she knew I would go down this road. Um, but I should have been pulled anyway. I should have, I should have taken the opportunity anyway.
You know, there's such thing that I, that I talk about. You're right. I wished I, I wished that I would've been bold enough and confident enough, but. They didn't believe in, you know, they made fun of me for it and mocked me because they're edu you know, she's educated, she's a psychologist, she's, you know, she's educated and I'm, yeah.
Oh, I know those and I'm not. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. Um, I love those. Yeah. So, and, and she is, she's, she's a smart, intelligent lady and well spoken and put together and, you know, she's intimidating, so I didn't speak up. So I hope that nobody out there,
I hope that you are bold. I pray that you are bold and fearless. Yeah. Yeah. It's okay that we're not at times, you know? Um, because. Jesus took that on the cross. Yeah. Um, and everybody, I understand your plight with this. Um, I've wondered, you know, since my dad died when I was nine years old, I don't know if he had, I, I have no idea.
And so I've wondered, excuse me, if I will ever see him in heaven and that is not a really great feeling. Um. And there's lots of people that I know that I just, you know, want to share Jesus with them. Yeah. Um, because I, I know Jesus is the OI mean, he's the way he, he's the truth. He's the way and he's the, he's the game changer.
It's not church, it's not religion, it's Jesus. It is Jesus. And, um, there was a, a, a young man in, in, uh. Our lives. Um, I watched him and I watched him grow up. His dad and mom were an r dear, dear friends of mine. And this young man overdosed on, um, uh, drug. He didn't realize what he was doing at the age of 25.
And, um, I had received a phone call from them that he had passed. And so I went over to the house with my husband and at this time I believed in raising the dead. Mm-hmm. But I didn't know the word. And um, I was asked to pray over him and they brought him up and he was in a body bag and it was awful. And his mom and dad are behind me.
And they're standing with some of their friends and my husband's there and, and my friend, he said, will you go pray over him before he goes? And I was like, oh yeah. And I was thinking the whole time, I was like, can I lay hands on him? Can we raise him from the dead? Mm-hmm. Will this work? What do I do? Now is the time.
I mean, this, this is the time. And I've heard Andrew Womack's story multiple times about his son, and he was in the, uh, he was in the morgue. He had a toe tag on. He was in the Wow. He was, he was cold. Wow. He was, he had been, he had been dead for, I didn't know that. For five hours or something. Wow. But, um, Andrew Womack and his wife, they never agreed.
Got an agreement with it. Mm. And when they got to work, 'cause he had to drive and, and anyways, when they got to, um, the morgue, oh, he had, he had raised from the dead. Something in them knew. Yeah. They just knew. And so I knew in me, and I, you know, I've since apologized to these people. And I'm not saying that I am the one, but I, I know that.
I know what the word says. Mm-hmm. And it says, you'll do greater works than I. Yes. Why aren't we seeing those greater works out in the world? Why? Because you have to step out in faith. Yep. You, you know, it's like Todd White. He laid hands on people a thousand times or more before he saw That. Doesn't mean that they didn't go home and weren't healed.
That doesn't mean that they didn't. But before he saw something. Right. You know, and we, we say, oh, you're healed now because I see it, or because I don't feel that pain. Um, but my point to this is, is I have that regret of did I do enough for Matt? I didn't. And that has, I've hated it. And I apologize to my fra, apologized to my friend.
Like, I'm sorry, I don't, I don't know because I didn't walk out in faith. Right. And, um. And it's not on me. Uh, you know, and, and I have to, you know, the conversations that I've had with the Lord, he's like, Lisa, you weren't renewing your mind. You didn't have the knowledge. The word says, my people perish for a lack of knowledge.
I didn't have the knowledge in me. I couldn't share that and, and I Right. People perish for a lack of knowledge is And so for us to, you know, for you to, I should. I should. Okay. Yes, it is great. You know, it's just like you correlate any sort of sport after you have your game or whatever it is. Or your, your meeting, your, your thing at work, whatever it is, you come back and you, you debrief.
Mm-hmm. What were the good, what were the bads? What could we do different? What could we improve on? Right. And I think it's important to evaluate those things, right? Even as parents, you know, well, this is what, how we handled this situation. This is how we handled this one. Okay, well this seemed to work better.
And you know, you, you incorporate and change those things, the beliefs, the changes. You be open to that. And then the next time you're presented, you will be presented with something. Yes. You do it different. I, there's no doubt that I, I'm a different person. Yeah. From that, right. There's, there's no way. And what does, what does Jesus, I, yeah.
What did he say about, what did he say about going from door to door? What did he say? I. If they don't receive you, oh, mm-hmm. Right. Your, if they don't receive you, your dust, your feet move on. Right? You're not there. You're, it's not on you. Right. It's not, it's not. It's on Jesus. Were to lay these people at his feet.
I did pray like I, if you've been in this situation, I mean, I did the best I could in the situation at the moment, and maybe not the best I could, the best in that moment. I, I, I did pray over him. Much in the room. Yeah. Even when he, I was hoping he could hear me. Oh, he through the meds. He could, when I was alone with him.
Yeah. My sister prayed over him. I prayed over my kids. There was no distance in spirit. All did. Yeah. As soon as we could, you know, be alone with him. Yeah. Um, and it was allowed. But I guess I am hoping you learn from my lesson, that's why I'm sharing this. Yeah. Um, that you be bold. You be bold. Be bold, be bold, be a lion.
People's lives are at stake. They really are. And this is, this is the sanctity of life that I'm talking about is, is eternal life too. Yeah. It, it, there's, there's, there's value in this life here, but there's a lot of value and that next life with God, there's more value in that. Yeah. Yeah. Way more. It's eternity.
It is. This is a blip. So I think we need to practice celebrating this life. Yeah. That's good. And not, that's not be so heavy. Yeah. And not be so heavy with God. Right. And have fun with God. And have fun with your friends. Yeah. And enjoy and celebrate them. And celebrate God in them. Yeah. And their uniqueness.
Yes. Because they, they are unique. Mm-hmm. And they are created for a purpose. Everybody is created for a purpose. Yes. Yes. Even the ones that aren't born yet. Even the ones that aren't walking it out. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Even the ones who aren't walking out their purpose, it doesn't mean they're not gonna find it.
Yeah. I mean, I'm 50 some years old, so there's that. I'm not quite there yet. No. Our young girls only 49. Today or tomorrow? Today. Oh, today is the day. Today is the day. Oh, I thought your birthday was tomorrow. Tomorrow, no. Oh, even better. One six. Yep. Yep. Well, I am so grateful that I am here to celebrate it with you.
Looking forward to our day, and thank you guys for celebrating the morning of it. Yeah, like we put her to work that dollar 50, you know, this is the hardest dollar 50 she's ever earned. Earned. That's right. Earned. It's going. It's going towards my chips and salsa.
Well, thank you for joining us. I hope. The point of what I was trying to get across is that life is valuable. Um, so is yours. Your life is valuable. Mm-hmm. It's valuable to God, whether you're trying to get into a plank or, um, solve the problem of cancer or solve the problem of politics. Yeah. Or make food accessible to people.
Whatever it is, it is important. Yeah. It's important. To him, your hair, every, each and every hair. He, he healed me. I'm sorry. I thought you thought, you know, you thought I was going, but he healed me of an incurable alopecia. Yeah. Healed me. Yeah. I'm healed. Mm-hmm. He is. He cared about My hair isn't. It's just hair.
Well, they're numbered on your head. Yeah. Yeah. That's what the word says. He cared. Yeah. So he cares about you. Yeah. He cares if he cares about the dove, he cares about you. I say not one hair on my head shall perish. Me too. I say it all the time for lack of knowledge. Yeah. No. So we thank you and, um, let's, let's go celebrate life.
Let's celebrate everybody's life. Yeah. And celebrate God in them. Mm-hmm. Amen. Yeah. Thank you. Like and subscribe. It helps us. And don't forget, red Ledger gives us a great place to buy some beautiful Bibles. Choose joy. Choose joy. Our cups be still in o. Thank you. God bless.