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Exploring the frontiers of Technology and AI
Ejaaz:
Now, you've all heard of ChatGPT. At some point, everyone's used an AI chatbot now.
Ejaaz:
But what if I told you this week, not one, but two brand new AI tools just dropped
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that will change the way you interact with AI on a daily basis?
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The first was released by OpenAI called Group Chats, which, in my opinion,
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is going to kill iMessage. It's going to change text and group messaging forever.
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And the second is called NanoBanana Pro, released by none other than Google
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themselves, their new text-to-image generation model powered by the almighty
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and all-powerful Gemini Pro 3.
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There's so much to unpack with these tools, so I want to get right into it.
Ejaaz:
But Josh, I haven't seen you in a while.
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For context of the listeners, Josh and I have been traveling this entire week,
Ejaaz:
so I haven't caught up with Josh. Josh, like, what's been going on?
Josh:
I've had a really, really good week. A huge week in my life. Very exciting times.
Josh:
I think it's probably time to share with the audience kind of like what's been
Josh:
going on more behind the scenes in my personal life, if that's cool with you.
Josh:
I shared a few photos, but if you don't mind, us walking through them.
Josh:
Okay yeah yeah yeah so um yeah married married this weekend which was really
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exciting yeah you just i'm not sure if you knew that i am friends with quite
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a few celebrities um beyonce tom cruise,
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um josh what the hell yeah is that kendall.
Ejaaz:
Jenner are you
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Going to congratulate me or are you just going to stare wait.
Ejaaz:
Dude i'm just looking through these pics
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There's another one yeah down the aisle okay
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it's a very beautiful wedding very grateful to have people like beyonce around
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with me leo dicaprio you know all the homies oh you're
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skipping too far ahead man it's the after party i mean the after
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party was great was in good company we had uh we had elon sundar
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tim cook all you know all of the homies they
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were all just kind of hanging out afterwards talking shop talking about the future
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of AI and then honeymoon afterwards which was pretty
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eventful I really enjoyed yeah I went to
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the beach well you had a good time undisclosed location you know when you roll
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with high high people like that you can't really talk about what you're doing
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but also just kidding this is all AI because there's the photo with Elon as
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well and this is just like so while we were preparing for this episode I was
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like well let's just try to use nano banana and come up with some dumb, funny stuff.
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And it works so well. This is a fully AI generated version. Granted,
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they gave Elon probably a couple more packs on his gut than he really has in person.
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It looks great. And it's a testament to...
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Not to scale. It's a testament to how amazing these new AI image generation
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models are. They are fantastic.
Josh:
This is the official announcement released from Sundar. Nano Banana Pro is out.
Josh:
The images you just saw earlier, those are all done with a single prompt in Nano Banana.
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We mentioned it in the roundup last week, but I figured it would be good to
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have an episode about this and
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the group chats because there's a lot more than I think we spoke about.
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And as I've used it more, I've started to learn a lot more about the capabilities
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and it is blowing my mind across the spectrum.
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One of the things that's unique to the new model is that it's really good at
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understanding diagrams for some reason. Diagrams is the hot new use case.
Josh:
So we have a lot of examples that we could walk through. One of them is with Notebook LM.
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This is Google's AI tool that integrates with Nano Banana. And it shows an infographic
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to a book. So this is an author who posted this.
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And the author has a story that he tells through the book.
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So what Notebook does, it ingests the content of the book,
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turns it into a visual graphic and then
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plots all of the plot like the plot elements and
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the characters and the the context all onto a map so you could kind of see how
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the book is visually and yeah you could keep going through these examples and
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if you're not listening i highly suggest going to spotify or youtube watching
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this because the examples are are pretty incredible these are cool yeah you
Josh:
just have you had a chance to play around with this at all the new i i.
Ejaaz:
Actually haven't so this dropped what like three days
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ago now josh very recently i haven't i've been able to get around to it but
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i have to say like i i'm comparing this my other checkpoint was with nano banana
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version one and this is just so much better i mean the fidelity on these things
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the intricacies of these diagrams like i wish i had these
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Like the way my mind jumps right now is like, I wish I had these back at school
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or like high school or college. Yeah.
Ejaaz:
Because this would help me learn things in so many different ways. This is awesome.
Josh:
Wow. It's cool. And if you have a book that you like, you can just upload the
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book and it will create a full visual diagram, plot line, the whole thing of the book.
Josh:
And it doesn't stop there. There's an example that I saw that I loved,
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which was for LinkedIn, people who are looking for jobs, people who want to
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kind of show their career path.
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This is an infographic trend where you can upload your LinkedIn to Nano Banana
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and it will create a career path for you. In whatever theme that you want.
Ejaaz:
It's already a better product than LinkedIn, Josh.
Josh:
Oh, yeah, right. How cool is this? So what you're seeing on screen here is like,
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okay, the person started maybe in high school or college.
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It shows the railroad track, how they're going through their career.
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It looks like they're at Google from 2009 to the present.
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And you could really, you could see in a very fun visual way,
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all the accomplishments they've done, their kind of journey through their career.
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It's really, really cool.
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And in a way, this is a much more exciting LinkedIn resume. And I think it's
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probably a testament to the new creative unlocks that we'll see as people start
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to learn more about Nano Banana and understand how it works.
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Just like how impressively fun it can be across the spectrum.
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If you're looking for a job, this is a great way to stand out.
Ejaaz:
Josh, what about this? This is insane. So for those of you who are listening,
Ejaaz:
these are all of Josh's friends who, funnily enough, turned up to his fake wedding.
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I'm actually upset that you aren't actually with Kendall Jenner because you
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guys are such a great couple in that image.
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I'm sure many people are gonna give that a go but right now i'm staring at an
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image of a bunch of celebrities
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on the rooftop of what looks to be some kind of penthouse apartment building
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and we have iron man we've got tony stark we've got wolf of wall street leo
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dicaprio we've got zendaya in in the spider man costume what happened to tom
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holland we've got um beyonce j-lo so many people what is going on here you know what it is josh um
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It's so like strikingly accurate. It's way more accurate. It's less fake.
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Like I'm looking at these and I'm like, you know what? If I was looking at this
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from afar, this would be totally convincing if this was posted on social media.
Josh:
And this is a one-shot prompt too. This was one prompt. It didn't even list
Josh:
the celebrities. It just asked for celebrities and it gave them all of these.
Josh:
I think one of the fun things that we're starting to see with image generation
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models is the ability to use people.
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A lot of these examples, they use actual faces, actual people.
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And previously that hasn't really been possible in these image gen models.
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So they're slowly lowering the threshold of what's acceptable,
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or I guess slowly raising the threshold of what's acceptable in terms of what
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types of content you could create using these models.
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And I guess eventually it poses some questions. You said the scary word copyright
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or trademark or likeness.
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As you can start to use these more and more with more accuracy,
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it does feel like a bit of a slippery slope, but I'm loving it because it's
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just so much fun to play around with.
Ejaaz:
So if you remember when Sora 2, which is OpenAI's text-to-video app,
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so it's like TikTok, but AI-generated videos, when it first launched,
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it was using celebrity media to create a bunch of cameos.
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Do you remember this? I was looking at Jake Paul. I was looking at Tom Cruise.
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I was looking at a bunch of these celebrities that were looking on our screen
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right now in a video with me or with my friends. And I was like,
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whoa, this is strikingly realistic.
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This is super cool. But eventually they started disabling a bunch of the abilities
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to cameo with those celebrities because of the copyright things.
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I'm now wondering how Google is able to kind of pull this off,
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right? Because I can imagine that some of these celebrities in this picture
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will be fine with doing that.
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But other celebrities probably would hate that.
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So I'm curious how they're going to tread that line as to what's legal and what's illegal here.
Josh:
I really hope they keep their foot on the gas because I'm enjoying this.
Josh:
But EJ, you also mentioned education, learning as ways to learn.
Josh:
There are tons of educational tools here. This one being one of my favorites.
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The post says, until a few hours ago, creating this kind of scientific image
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would have required at least an hour of professional work.
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Now with Nano Banana Pro, it takes a simple prompt and less than 30 seconds.
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The prompt was described in an illustration the events for a psiotoxic T cell
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recognizing and killing a cancer cell.
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And it created this beautiful graphic that very clearly shows how a cell can kill a cancer cell.
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And I think it's just this really big unlock where particularly if you're a visual learner,
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you could ask the model to describe to you basically anything you want and it
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can create these educational visual graphics that used to be only available
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to people in textbooks and limited in scope to whatever the textbook was talking about.
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This on the other hand does not. It's fully open-ended and yeah,
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this is another example here.
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So on the screen, we're seeing this kind of diagram that shows a horse's mouth and the teeth.
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And apparently, this is what I just learned today, is that you can determine
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a horse's age by its teeth.
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And in a single prompt, it was able to generate a visual guide that shows you
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on a spectrum how old the horse would be based on what the teeth look like.
Josh:
And I find this so fascinating and so useful because if there's anything you
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ever wanna learn about, not only can you do it, but you can get a completely
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high fidelity, high accuracy visual graphic on anything and then share that with the world.
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So I imagine marketplaces for this could hopefully show up where textbooks now
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are much more accessible. Visual graphics are much more accessible.
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Art in general is much more accessible, but just learning and being able to
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have this visual companion tool is so cool.
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So Nano Banana Pro, again, this is just like the onion that keeps getting peeled
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back. There are so many layers to what it's capable of.
Josh:
And as we go, we'll just continue to find more. And I'm loving playing around with it.
Ejaaz:
Yeah, I mean, being such a visual learner myself, I could have really used and
Ejaaz:
will continue to use something like this going forwards when I learn any brand new concept.
Ejaaz:
Like when I was if I go back to the tweet where it's like showing how this T
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cell kills a cancer cell.
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I've read so many paragraphs in my grade school literature books,
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science books explaining how this works. But if I had this kind of like clear,
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succinct image for every single concept that I didn't understand,
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I'd probably have done a lot, lot better.
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So this is super cool. I'm excited about how this kind of like changes performance
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for kids growing up with AI.
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It's kind of weird to think that like now any kid being born today will not
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know what it was like to grow up without having AI as a tool to kind of help them learn things.
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So this is like really game changing stuff. You may not see it immediately in
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front of you on TikTok, on social media, but you will see it in the realms of education,
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kind of work progress, and kind of like building each other's careers up,
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you know, to reference the example that you used earlier on in their lives. So this is super cool.
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Josh, how do I get access to something like this?
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I'm seeing, you know, Google AI Ultra subscribers get access,
Ejaaz:
but is that all? Are there other ways to do this?
Josh:
So if you're a pro subscriber, you get access to it for $20 a month.
Josh:
And what we're seeing here on this post actually is the next
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extension of nano banana pro because if you're
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an ultra subscriber and you use the google flow studio you can
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actually turn these images into videos and all
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the fun images that we just saw created earlier in the day and if
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you scroll down a little bit you can see you could generate actual movies
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with them so none of this stuff that you're seeing on
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screen is real um it was all generated with an image and then the image was
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animated so if you want to do like if I wanted to walk down the aisle per se
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I can generate the aisle image and then have myself walk down the aisle or go
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swimming in the ocean or whatever it may be because again it has all the image
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physics real world simulation stuff and I think,
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What we're seeing is this natural progression between image generation to video
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generation to 3D modeling to like virtual worlds.
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And it very much feels like there's a clear trend here. And that's Nano Banana.
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There's so much fun to be had there. You can make some images,
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you can animate the images, turn them into movies, graphics,
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videos, whatever you want.
Josh:
The options are limitless. And this really feels like one of the first times in the world of visuals.
Josh:
Oh yeah, they really messed up my face there.
Ejaaz:
Man. I can't get over this image. Dude, they messed up your face.
Ejaaz:
They messed up your face. Everything else is nailed.
Josh:
They're missing a few apps on the bottom. They could have refined a little bit more.
Ejaaz:
I think so. Listen, Kendall, if you're listening to this, I already know you're
Ejaaz:
listening to this. You look beautiful. We're not hating on you.
Ejaaz:
Feel free to reach out to the podcast if you want to feature on it.
Josh:
Or me if you just want to call me.
Ejaaz:
Yep, yep, yep. If you want to make this a reality, we're all about manifesting realities here.
Ejaaz:
What a crazy tool. I think like aside from social media, this is going to be
Ejaaz:
used for so many other wonderful things.
Ejaaz:
I think people see a tool like this, Josh, and they're kind of like, oh, who cares?
Ejaaz:
A bunch of fake social media misinformation that their minds kind of jump to the negative sense.
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But I think this is going to be used for a lot of positive good,
Ejaaz:
including manifesting who we're going to marry.
Josh:
So let's get that going. As always, it's a tool. It cuts both ways.
Josh:
But that is not the only cool tool today, EJ. We got another one from OpenAI.
Ejaaz:
Right. Enter my realm. This is the tool I'm most pumped about, Josh.
Ejaaz:
I've been waiting for this for a while because ever since ChatGPT got released,
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my number one request, aside from memory, was...
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Can I share these conversations with my friends? Can I have these AI discussions with my friends?
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And finally, this week, OpenAI announced a feature called Group Chats,
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which basically allows you to have the same chat GPT conversation that you guys
Ejaaz:
have every day, but invite your friends to collaborate on it.
Ejaaz:
Now, before we go any further, I need to give you guys a breakdown as to what the hell this thing is.
Ejaaz:
So it's basically, it's a new experience that will make it easy for people to
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collaborate with each other. and ChatGPT.
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So there's two main key features.
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Key feature number one is collaborating with your friends and family.
Ejaaz:
So the idea is to bring ChatGPT into the same conversation that you're having
Ejaaz:
in your text messages, in your iMessages, wherever you text with your friends and your family.
Ejaaz:
So some examples of what you can do having ChatGPT in this message context would
Ejaaz:
be things like planning trips.
Ejaaz:
So let's say you're planning a weekend trip and you're talking to friends.
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You can create a group chat and add ChatGPT to it.
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And it kind of listens to everything that is said, it can kind of suggest destinations,
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kind of rule out other options, and stuff like that.
Ejaaz:
But there are also other forms of stuff that you can do with it, Josh.
Ejaaz:
One example is hands on work, which honestly, I could use or benefit a lot from
Ejaaz:
this, which is projects like designing a backyard garden.
Ejaaz:
I have a terrace that is currently unadorned with furniture.
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And I'm like, how the hell do I figure out what this looks like,
Ejaaz:
I can just take a picture, put it in a group chat with my girlfriend.
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And I can discuss kind of like what kinds of furniture preferences we like,
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where we want to put furniture, what kind of size dimensions,
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where should we order it from? How long is it going to take?
Ejaaz:
Stuff like that. And AI can just kind of like outsource. I can outsource all of that to ChatGPT.
Ejaaz:
And the final part, Josh, I don't know if you have any siblings.
Ejaaz:
I have a sister. We argue all the time about a bunch of decisions that we're
Ejaaz:
going to do for the family.
Ejaaz:
Group decisions. I can now add ChatGPT and prove to her that I'm right about
Ejaaz:
most things here, right?
Ejaaz:
But all jokes aside, I think this is a really cool feature in the sense that
Ejaaz:
it's going to help people in general be way more productive.
Ejaaz:
And the way I kind of look at it is rather than me kind of like having this
Ejaaz:
siloed app that I use that I speak and communicate with different people and
Ejaaz:
then going to ChatGPT to kind of fact check things, this should all be one thing completely.
Ejaaz:
And so I'm all for this. And I think it's a really smart move from OpenAI because
Ejaaz:
they're just going to get so much more data on everyone's behavioral habits,
Ejaaz:
which is going to lead to just better products coming out of them.
Ejaaz:
I mean, there's a reason why you and I keep using OpenAI products.
Ejaaz:
It's because they've tied that bow on the product loop so well.
Ejaaz:
And this is just another example.
Josh:
Oh, what a great growth hack. I really, I really believe that Meta probably
Josh:
envies this strongly because they have the whole community, they have the ecosystem,
Josh:
They just never paired them together.
Josh:
And what an amazing growth hack because so much of the conversation that doesn't
Josh:
happen on social media, it happens in group chats.
Josh:
Group chats are the biggest way that people really communicate.
Josh:
And by integrating AI into that, it's such a powerful unlock.
Josh:
And for people who aren't familiar, previously, if you wanted to share a conversation
Josh:
that you had in chat GPT with a friend, you had to share the whole conversation that you had.
Josh:
And then they could open it up and they can fork it and they could create their
Josh:
own conversation from it. But it wasn't a very collaborative thing.
Josh:
It was very one-sided, read-only.
Josh:
This bakes it into the entire process. So if you have friends who all have ChatGPT,
Josh:
because now there's probably a billion weekly active users.
Josh:
So my guess is at least a couple of them already have it. You just add them to the app.
Josh:
You guys can chat. You have the best assistant in the world.
Josh:
I assume there's going to be a world in which it can collect multiple email
Josh:
addresses, calendars, sync up events that you want to do, check when everyone's
Josh:
free without sharing when everyone's free and create times that everyone can hang out.
Josh:
There's just this hugely powerful unlock that happens as group chats evolve in ChatGPT.
Josh:
And as I'm going through this, I'm like, okay, well, Meta should have done this.
Josh:
Apple should have done this.
Josh:
Google i don't know if google could have done it but those are the top two but
Josh:
it just leaves me like man this was this was low-hanging fruit and again like
Josh:
you said ejaz another product with another viral loop that will get open ai
Josh:
and chat gpt way more users way
Josh:
more stickiness just continuing to pile on the value into this app yeah.
Ejaaz:
I couldn't agree more they're just like that they're hitting repeated home runs
Ejaaz:
out the park um the if you're wondering you know how the hell do you get access
Ejaaz:
to this it's available to you right now free pro uh premium whatever all the
Ejaaz:
plans are, you have access to it.
Ejaaz:
Simply go to any conversation that you've started with ChatGPT and on the top
Ejaaz:
right hand side, you're going to see a people icon with a plus sign.
Ejaaz:
If you tap that, you'll get a shareable link that you can share with up to 20
Ejaaz:
friends or you can invite up to 20 friends to your conversation.
Ejaaz:
And what it does is it creates a copy of that conversation into another version of that conversation.
Ejaaz:
It's like one-to-one, but you have a private version where you've started that
Ejaaz:
conversation, then you have the other one where it has all your friends.
Ejaaz:
And it separates the information between the two.
Ejaaz:
So I can imagine some of the worries that people have is like,
Ejaaz:
well, I have a lot of personal information that I've shared with ChatGPT that
Ejaaz:
I don't want my friends to know about.
Ejaaz:
So is it going to share certain memories that it has about me with my friends?
Ejaaz:
It's complete privacy. These are two separate databases. This is just to help
Ejaaz:
you kind of interact with your friends more and create something cool.
Ejaaz:
Josh, another really cool part about this that I haven't seen too many people
Ejaaz:
talk about is in order to enable this feature,
Ejaaz:
the OpenAI team built some very specific social behaviors for ChatGPT to interact
Ejaaz:
with people in the group chat.
Ejaaz:
So I'll give you an example. So typically, it's been taught to just,
Ejaaz:
you know, kind of keep quiet, don't interrupt too much.
Ejaaz:
It interrupts only when it thinks it can have a useful kind of suggestion,
Ejaaz:
or when it's kind of like prompted.
Ejaaz:
So you can add ChatGPT in any kind of response that you have to your friends
Ejaaz:
to kind of prompt it to say something.
Ejaaz:
But otherwise, it might just kind of like, but in here and there.
Ejaaz:
Another really cool thing, Josh, is that it emoji reacts to people's messages,
Ejaaz:
just like a real person would. So if it kind of like agrees with you,
Ejaaz:
if it agrees with you, but it doesn't necessarily want to be like,
Ejaaz:
hey, Josh, that's a fantastic suggestion, just gives you a thumbs up or might give you a winky face.
Ejaaz:
I don't I don't know, but it kind of interacts like a real human being.
Ejaaz:
You can kind of tweak its personality depending and it evolves with the group conversation.
Ejaaz:
Let's say, you know, it's a group chat with the boys and it's a bit more banterist.
Ejaaz:
It'll kind of adjust to that versus if it's kind of like a more kind of like
Ejaaz:
tame thing with the family, it'll adjust to that. It'll be more respectful.
Ejaaz:
It also has access to your profile and your profile pictures.
Ejaaz:
So let's say you want to say, hey, guys, it's Christmas time.
Ejaaz:
We're planning a big party.
Ejaaz:
I can't wait for this, guys. I'm so excited. Christmas is my favorite holiday ever.
Ejaaz:
You know, you might wake up the next day with the Josh profile picture with
Ejaaz:
a Santa Claus hat or Ejaz wearing an elf costume.
Ejaaz:
You know, it has fun. It has this personable kind of like friend,
Ejaaz:
but it's not really real kind of vibe going about it, which I thought was,
Ejaaz:
again, to tie in the product group, very good at kind of getting people to be
Ejaaz:
at ease with AI and give up their information.
Josh:
Yeah. It's a lot of data too, man. Like the amount of extra personal data you'll
Josh:
collect on and everybody is massive. And you could start to create this network.
Josh:
Like they're starting to build an actual social network where you can get these
Josh:
nodes on a graph. You could see how they relate to each other,
Josh:
who talks to who about what.
Josh:
I'm curious what role that played in the decision to actually make this a reality.
Josh:
Outside of the social flywheel. This is also a data collection flywheel and
Josh:
it puts them in a really good spot.
Josh:
But I have to ask myself the question is, am I going to use this?
Josh:
Ejaz, are you going to use this? Like, is this actually strong enough to get you to leave?
Ejaaz:
Okay. So here is my killer thesis behind this. And I specifically use the word killer here.
Ejaaz:
If this plays out and it is a good enough product, right?
Ejaaz:
I don't see why you wouldn't use this over something like iMessage.
Ejaaz:
Or wherever you text with people. Because in my opinion, if I can speak to my
Ejaaz:
friend, everyone, like you said, you've got almost probably a billion weekly
Ejaaz:
active users of ChatGPT.
Ejaaz:
A bunch of my friends already use it. I would rather have a text chat with them
Ejaaz:
with an AI in there, which can verify links that are posted in there,
Ejaaz:
which has an entire memory and context on our entire conversation.
Ejaaz:
So it can bring up text that someone's mentioned in the past to prove a point
Ejaaz:
or to kind of like share kind of knowledgeable information.
Ejaaz:
And just to be that better kind of like wise man in the group chat,
Ejaaz:
Why wouldn't I use something like that?
Ejaaz:
That sounds like a much better user experience than me typing random text and
Ejaaz:
scrolling and searching for the names that I'm looking for, right?
Ejaaz:
I think it's a much better experience.
Ejaaz:
I think this eventually kills iMessage. Like, why wouldn't Apple be shaking right now?
Josh:
Yeah iMessage it's really so sticky i really love iMessage and we always talk
Josh:
about the moats that apple has one of them being the blue the blue dots when
Josh:
you're texting people the blue bubbles um they have a few moats though that
Josh:
are starting to fall and this is slightly unrelated but i wanted to bring it
Josh:
up this week which is android and google's new rollout of.
Josh:
Airdrop which is weird because when i say airdrop yeah so airdrop like the way
Josh:
that you it's the best feature in the world if you have a file on one of your
Josh:
apple devices and you want to get it to another one of either yours or a friend's
Josh:
Apple device, you can just airdrop it.
Josh:
And using some magic wireless technology, it just shows up on their phone so
Josh:
long as you are in close proximity to them.
Josh:
And this is normally how, like when we hang out, this is how we transfer photos.
Josh:
It's quick, it's high fidelity.
Josh:
It just transfers raw files, huge amounts of data. It is an amazing feature
Josh:
exclusive to Apple. Well, Google just this week,
Josh:
They rolled out airdrop support for iOS, which is really weird because Apple
Josh:
certainly doesn't want that to happen.
Josh:
And it appears as if they reverse engineered Apple's airdrop function,
Josh:
and they figured out how to create a companion that is compatible with the Apple
Josh:
airdrop functionality.
Josh:
And to me, this signals one of two things.
Josh:
One is that Apple's monopoly on these things that keep the ecosystem sticky is starting to fall.
Josh:
First, it was the rich text messaging where you could actually send Android
Josh:
users emojis and you could send photos in true resolution.
Josh:
Now it's an airdrop feature that's getting emulated. If they can figure out
Josh:
how to airdrop, maybe they can figure out how to emulate blue bubbles.
Josh:
And this comes against the backdrop of antiretron lawsuits that have been continuously
Josh:
happening of Apple's kind of restrictive...
Josh:
Ideologies and capabilities when it comes to keeping people locked into their platform.
Josh:
So Apple kind of has two options. One, they either lean into it and they just
Josh:
suck it up and they take that blow.
Josh:
I suspect that's not going to happen too, is that they're probably going to
Josh:
cut this off and say, no, you cannot do this.
Josh:
But in the case they do, well, then they get into antitrust trouble and you
Josh:
don't know what kind of rabbit hole that's going to go down.
Josh:
So there is this monopoly on Apple that's starting to be attacked pretty directly.
Josh:
And I wonder if that's going to further enhance the flywheel,
Josh:
the social effects of people wanting to use alternatives like ChatGPT's group chats or even like XAI.
Josh:
EJS, I don't know if you saw the new X chat feature that rolled out recently. They have chat.
Josh:
They're one button away from rolling rock into those and you could create group
Josh:
chats and like there is going to be a lot of competition.
Josh:
And what we're finding is, EJS, we always talk about this, but AI is going to be everywhere.
Josh:
And if you could build a stack that meets people where they are and integrates
Josh:
AI faster and better than anybody else and get those users locked in early,
Josh:
this is the race that's being played. and JackGPT made a big move this week.
Josh:
It's true. And dropping group chats.
Josh:
So I don't know if I'm going to race to have a group chat, but we should spin
Josh:
one up and try it and play around with it and see how much we really like it.
Ejaaz:
I'm down. I'm going to start one right after this episode. I was just thinking
Ejaaz:
the counter argument would be like, I just don't see Apple sitting around and
Ejaaz:
letting this happen to them, right?
Ejaaz:
They signed that deal recently with Google to get their custom-made Gemini model
Ejaaz:
made specifically for Apple.
Ejaaz:
Into Siri and into their iOS, which means that we're going to have an Apple
Ejaaz:
AI in Siri sometime in 2026.
Ejaaz:
And I can imagine that that's probably going to be available in the text feature as well.
Ejaaz:
So I can't imagine Apple's going to sit around, but they are very much on the back foot right now.
Ejaaz:
And it's not looking great when you have companies like XAI,
Ejaaz:
Grok, and OpenAI with group chats kind of pushing aggressively into the social
Ejaaz:
realm. Like this is the first time, if you think about it,
Ejaaz:
My interaction with ChatGPT has been very one-on-one, right?
Ejaaz:
It's kind of very siloed.
Ejaaz:
And now they're kind of tapping into the social graph where not only am I just
Ejaaz:
kind of using ChatGPT to get information, and it does it in a really reliable way.
Ejaaz:
I would say I spent about 40% of my internet browsing time on ChatGPT.
Ejaaz:
Now it's tapping into my social arc, Josh.
Ejaaz:
Now it's tapping into personal information. Now it's tapping into my leisure and my joy.
Ejaaz:
It's going to know about my jokes that I make. It might make me laugh. I don't know.
Ejaaz:
It might react like, you know, with a smiley emoji to my joke and I might feel good about it.
Ejaaz:
So it's a really interesting kind of realm and it's so weird to think about.
Ejaaz:
I don't know what it's going to look like. Meta is definitely fuming.
Ejaaz:
Meta is definitely angry that they didn't do something like this.
Josh:
Well, it seems like everybody's fuming. Everyone just like, everyone's competing.
Josh:
It's so hyper competitive. Everyone wants to win.
Josh:
Apple is one good update away from breaking this mold and just keeping us locked in.
Josh:
So while Apple always moves the slowest and normally the best,
Josh:
they are going to need to have some urgency before they really just lose this
Josh:
moat. So I'm hopeful for some new updates.
Josh:
This is not the end of the group chat.
Josh:
This may be the beginning of the AI group chat, but this is certainly only step
Josh:
one in the journey. But that's it.
Josh:
That is two cool tools that released this week that are really, really cool.
Josh:
Like we're getting some good stuff fairly quickly.
Josh:
I would encourage everyone to try them out. Let us know what you think.
Josh:
In particular, I want your Nano Banana Pro prompts.
Josh:
I want to know the cool prompts that you're using to make these fun types of
Josh:
images, whether it be, you know, walking down the aisle with someone or just
Josh:
a really cool graphic or whatever.
Josh:
Because again, it's just creativity constraints. So if you could come up with
Josh:
a good prompt, let us know, share it, share it with your friends,
Josh:
just like you're hopefully going to share this episode with them.
Josh:
And also don't forget to subscribe. If you do subscribe on YouTube,
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click the little bell icon too. If you haven't clicked the bell, it's very important.
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Josh:
So yeah, that's it. That's all we got. Go try them out, test it out,
Josh:
share with your friends.
Josh:
Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe, all the great new stuff and we will
Josh:
see you guys on the next episode see you guys for watching peace.