Card Chaos

In Brett's absence, Liam steps up to skipper the PSG Podcast and the boys introduce the world to Ziggi, the creative mind behind the PSG labels, branding and website.

What is Card Chaos?

Join the lads from Platinum Standard Grading for a chat about all things cards, sports and hobby events.

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Brought to you by Platinum Standard Grading.

Speaker 0 (0s): This is a pot fire production.

Speaker 2 (13s): It's the highest of standards on the peak we have laid and it's not silver. It's not going to do you want the best take

Speaker 3 (18s): Advantage. Go black, go platinum.

Speaker 5 (26s): Welcome back to the platinum standard grading podcast. So unfortunately today Brett has been unwell. So I'll be, co-hosting the platinum standard grading podcasts. It'll be a bit of a training or learning mobility for me when Chris and Brett go to the states for the nationals. So yeah. Give or take, I'm going to give it my best shot,

Speaker 6 (48s): But hopefully better than that show

Speaker 5 (50s): That wasn't too

Speaker 6 (51s): Bad. You spoken up a little bit better,

Speaker 5 (55s): But special guests today, the man behind the scenes, the man that does it all. He's named Ziggy and he's one of the smartest guys I've ever met. So we'll touch on Zig soon.

Speaker 7 (1m 7s): That's nice. Thank you. I don't know if you should be giving away the snap thing.

Speaker 6 (1m 11s): I said, it's an in-house joke. Ziggy's official title. I'm not sure of creative director.

Speaker 7 (1m 18s): Yeah.

Speaker 5 (1m 20s): Creative

Speaker 7 (1m 21s): Designer,

Speaker 6 (1m 23s): Fixer of everything.

Speaker 7 (1m 25s): Graphics

Speaker 6 (1m 25s): Dude, graphics, designer. What? Yeah. What is your real title? What's on your business card.

Speaker 7 (1m 32s): It's creative director on my

Speaker 5 (1m 35s): So my skewed as a camp manager

Speaker 7 (1m 38s): Almost.

Speaker 6 (1m 40s): So you just creatively direct, is that

Speaker 7 (1m 42s): Pretty much? Yeah. I just kind of point the fingers at all the people and tell them what to do.

Speaker 6 (1m 45s): Good.

Speaker 8 (1m 46s): Oh, we got Rob on

Speaker 7 (1m 47s): The

Speaker 6 (1m 48s): Majority of that

Speaker 8 (1m 48s): Shit up. I'll

Speaker 7 (1m 50s): Be GrubHub.

Speaker 6 (1m 52s): So walk us through, I've seen a couple of things on the bench in front of you. Let's just jump straight into those. The let's go the golden and platinum ticket giveaways that we sort of borrowed off Willy Wonka.

Speaker 7 (2m 11s): We did.

Speaker 6 (2m 11s): And decided when we were looking at stuff to do for the hobby hangout. This is the, these are the things we came up with.

Speaker 7 (2m 17s): Yeah. So these, these were printed actually using the same process as the labels, which makes them pretty special. And yeah, we referenced like heavily on Willy Wonka, golden ticket designs for these just to make them a bit fun and interesting to reveal on the day we printed our own cards off the golden ticket platinum tickets, which turned out pretty cool. They getting some good reviews from the last time of hanging out. So yeah,

Speaker 6 (2m 46s): They look amazing in hand. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (2m 47s): I remember the winner when he got it off the stage and he's walking out, his friends are looking at it, like it's an actual gold ticket. And I was like, just go nuts. Like it's pretty funny.

Speaker 7 (2m 55s): Yeah. It really like comes up pretty well.

Speaker 6 (2m 57s): You know, the gold just pumps and the golden ticket winner gets 10 express cards graded and then a luxury hotel voucher.

Speaker 7 (3m 6s): I'm a little bit sad that we can't employees can't win that one, but you know, it's the way it covers.

Speaker 6 (3m 11s): Yeah. Yeah. It would be nice, but I'd rather win the platinum for sure. Win. I mean, grading for life is pretty insane. So these go out to one lucky winner at each hobby hangout. So we've got another three to give away DC. So there'll be five in total for the yes.

Speaker 7 (3m 29s): No, it's pretty good. Pretty good deal. Really

Speaker 5 (3m 32s): Likely to explain how they get involved with the giveaway tickets, Chris.

Speaker 6 (3m 37s): Yeah. So there'll be a QR code. It'll be everywhere at the event. There's talk of it being on the floor, a little stickers, there'll be brochures handed out. There will be QR codes on the tables everywhere, everywhere toilets we planted, we planted everywhere, everywhere, man.

Speaker 5 (3m 59s): So you scan the QR code. It takes you to a link tree, which has our socials, our website. And it also has the giveaway. So you just enter in your information and you go straight into the drawer and we will reveal that. Just figuring out a time at the

Speaker 6 (4m 16s): Yeah. And then we've locked in a time. It'll be just after the

Speaker 5 (4m 22s): Speeches. So

Speaker 6 (4m 23s): I think we'll be doing the same thing as we did in Brisbane. Get everyone to get the five people on stage, do the spinny wheel. And then the last person remaining wins the platinum ticket. Yep. So that'll be exciting. What else have you designed the sides? You're the man behind the P

Speaker 7 (4m 41s): Yeah. They pay the, the original branding for the, for the brand, the logo, the, the labels inside the slabs themselves. That was an interesting challenge for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (4m 51s): Have you done anything? Is this the weirdest type of work you've done?

Speaker 7 (4m 57s): Probably it's not the weirdest. I mean, it's, it's probably the most interesting challenge that I've ever had to like design for print, especially coming from knowing, you know, the basics of print to having to create something that, that looks and feels a specialist as like the labels that are going out in every single peer sheet graded slab. And these things have, you know, like we built into them like a ridiculous amount of security phages. They've got like, if you wanted to copy one of these exactly.

You, it's almost, it's not impossible to do because of the, the amount of settings that we have to put in specifically to our printing process, just to get one of these looking the way it does there, you're pretty much not going to find a label that looks or feels the way that one of these does, especially in person pictures. Usually don't do them justice because of the shiny

Speaker 6 (5m 51s): Yeah. That's, that's actually, it brings up a good point, getting a good photo of the labels and

Speaker 7 (5m 56s): It's tough actually. You've got to kind of like usually when we shoot them in house, we've got a light box set up and you're almost poking the camera through the hole of a piece of paper, because they're so reflective that you want the white around, like you want just surrounded by white so that you get that nice reflective look. Otherwise it just kind of reflects back on just even yourself. But

Speaker 6 (6m 19s): We tried a few different things. We put the cars upside down

Speaker 7 (6m 25s): Pretty much

Speaker 6 (6m 25s): Smell yet. We've used different colored backgrounds, obviously different angles of the camera. And like, we've actually had some people's feedback saying like, I think the, something that the numbers of Dow or, and I was like, yeah, the photos is just not taken well,

Speaker 7 (6m 42s): Has that effect. Yeah. Especially when you catch the, the shiny part of the actual grade in the wrong light, it can, it can have the effect of looking like a style. But if you ha, if you hold this thing in front of you, it's just the fact that it's it's Chrome and Chrome has that. If you put a black color or a dark color and Chrome, and you catch the Chrome on the dark side, then it's gonna, it's gonna look like that. But in person they look pretty special

Speaker 6 (7m 8s): And they look amazing in hand.

Speaker 7 (7m 10s): Yeah. And it, I mean, we've gone for totally different printing process and like production process on these. And I would say any of the other grading companies have, which kind of, yeah. It brings out a real unique look. And I think, you know, a, a case full of these is certainly something special

Speaker 6 (7m 28s): Before you came on board at a platinum standard. Had you been involved in the card community or what was your

Speaker 7 (7m 35s): Not hugely, it's funny actually coming on board here has certainly got me interested in it a lot more. And ever since then, I have just been buying ridiculous amounts of like DragonBallZ e-cards and stuff and got a few graded ones, which did, did pretty well. And then, yeah, I dunno. I've just, yeah. So that was my first introduction, really, to the world of, you know, the hobby

Speaker 6 (8m 3s): Cards,

Speaker 7 (8m 4s): The world of cards.

Speaker 6 (8m 5s): And now do you look at other grading companies? Like when you see labels, do you

Speaker 7 (8m 10s): Totally like

Speaker 6 (8m 11s): The judgmental

Speaker 7 (8m 12s): The way it goes when you're designing stuff for like a living and you, you just look at everything now and you just have that, that eye about everything and you sit there and go, oh, well that could have been like that. And how did they do that? And so, you know, it really, it's a curse.

Speaker 6 (8m 29s): Now also you part you and lay him did a lot of work with Ruby, shout out Ruby Pegram who showed us. She said, she's the biggest fan, but she's not watching or listening, but you guys, you guys have redesigned the submission process on the website to make it easier for collectors and our submission partners. Do you want to give us some features of the new design?

Speaker 5 (8m 55s): Yeah. So I'll let Zig touch on a little bit further. I only know the basics so far, but so what we're going to do is we're going to have a, a log-in for submission partners, which allows them to access like different pitchers you want in the store, stickers, stickers, sets,

Speaker 6 (9m 16s): Promotional resources,

Speaker 5 (9m 17s): Promotional resources, and a lot easier submission process for the submission partners, which is a massive task that's been able to do. And it makes it a lot easier on the submission partners as well. But the main aim is just, just to look after the submission partners and that's what we were trying to do here. And the communication has been really good. I've had a really, a lot of good feedback from all the submission partners. I'll look forward to meeting the new submission partners in Sydney.

I haven't been to Sydney,

Speaker 6 (9m 52s): Never

Speaker 5 (9m 52s): I've been there once I only drive, I try to do my hours. So I drove to Sydney.

Speaker 6 (10m 2s): Did you

Speaker 5 (10m 2s): Do a hundred?

Speaker 7 (10m 4s): No.

Speaker 6 (10m 6s): That's

Speaker 5 (10m 7s): About 60 hours from there to sit there, sitting back

Speaker 6 (10m 10s): Slowly you go.

Speaker 5 (10m 12s): Oh yeah. I was clocking my sleep. Yeah. So I haven't really been to Sydney a whole lot and yeah, I'm looking forward to meeting the new guys in city. I really enjoyed Melbourne and Brisbane. It was really good to see just different people out there and I'm in the car industry and they're all there for the same purpose. So yeah. Yeah. I enjoy it. I'm looking forward to Sydney. So

Speaker 6 (10m 38s): Just saying the name pop up on the screen, BJ Mac has just,

Speaker 8 (10m 43s): There's quite a lot of names up there. Yeah. Alls cards, Los Lobos,

Speaker 5 (10m 47s): Hawaii, Los Lobos.

Speaker 6 (10m 50s): logs on.

Speaker 5 (10m 55s): And just

Speaker 6 (10m 55s): To say that, and then logs off

Speaker 8 (10m 57s): 2% potty

Speaker 6 (10m 60s): Jay's

Speaker 8 (11m 1s): Refresh

Speaker 6 (11m 1s): Cards. So redesigning of the submission process, we've probably done that a couple of times since inception and it's just getting easier and easier every time. Obviously. I think when we first started, it was a, an Excel spreadsheet.

Speaker 7 (11m 16s): Yeah. Pretty much. And then we built it into, into the website at which required people to put pictures. They cards in as part of the actual, like early submission process and stuff. So we've now redesigned that again. So you, you can do the pictures of your cards afterwards. All you gotta do is just select how many cards do you want and you know,

Speaker 6 (11m 35s): The service

Speaker 7 (11m 36s): Level and the service level.

Speaker 6 (11m 37s): And there is a reasoning behind the taking of the photos. Isn't it? It's just not just us just wanting to, oh,

Speaker 7 (11m 42s): For sure. I mean, it's like, partly it's, it's correct me if I'm wrong. Cause I'm not in the admin side of things usually, but like Polly for the, for the AI, for the

Speaker 6 (11m 53s): Training, the AI that we're building in the backend and it's part of the work we're doing with image recognition and the software behind that. And eventually it'll be for early detection of defects. So cause the cameras that we have in our phones are so good that eventually you'll be able to take a photo of your card when you submit it. And then by the time it gets to us because of post and, and stuff like that, all goes through a submission partner will be it'll help the grading process, make it quicker because the boys will know before it gets to us.

Okay. We've got to look for this, this and this on this card. Yeah, exactly. So it's not for no reason. And like, it really helps.

Speaker 5 (12m 34s): It's also a lot quicker from where we first were. Like, I remember doing the submission process at the start was gone. Damn like this is, this has taken a while. Like all the details. Exactly. Right. And like, I think, I believe other grading companies still make you do that. So I feel like we're changing, improving every time we take a new step and yeah, the, the process is a whole lot quicker. So it's so much easier I believe.

Speaker 6 (12m 60s): And we're trying to make the process easier for the hobby hangout and especially on the shows that we go to, because obviously these events are one day events you want to try and very often and you want to try and utilize your time as best as possible. If it only goes for four hours, the last thing you want to do is you want to have people queuing to submit cards. So we're really pushing people to pre-submit their cards online@psgrading.net.

Speaker 5 (13m 25s): And I'll tell them for so much more activity

Speaker 6 (13m 27s): And then you can just come and yeah, just come and drop off your stuff. Think about, think priority boarding, but grading. So just come in, drop your cards off and then send the rest home and activities.

Speaker 5 (13m 39s): Yeah. When he, when he thinks to do their meet and greet people, you never know you'd meet there. So

Speaker 6 (13m 44s): Who do you reckon? Who's like a left field personally reckon. You'd see that.

Speaker 5 (13m 49s): So at the last one, that was pretty cool for me. He was breaking cards there. Oh yeah. I met him. So that was pretty cool. The heaps of the sporting athletes do attend these. There wasn't many in Brisbane because of the weather and it was just the timing of it as well. But I believe, you'll say some sporting athletes they're

Speaker 6 (14m 6s): Sporting athletes

Speaker 5 (14m 8s): As opposed to

Speaker 6 (14m 9s): Non-sporting. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14m 12s): Well,

Speaker 6 (14m 17s): What else has been going on this week?

Speaker 5 (14m 20s): Well, Socceroos made the world cup, so

Speaker 6 (14m 23s): Woo. Yeah. That was crazy. Bringing only the goal. Kapha.

Speaker 5 (14m 28s): Sorry. Funny story about him. He was previously in a barista course about four. I read something about five or six months ago. He was doing a barista course and

Speaker 6 (14m 39s): Yeah, a lot of athletes do that. Sporting athletes start thinking about their career after sports. My thought would be that he'd probably want to buy a cafe and he'd want to know how it runs.

Speaker 5 (14m 51s): Like he was, he was on the, out on

Speaker 6 (14m 53s): That.

Speaker 5 (14m 55s): He, he played really well in the A-League I believe. And yay. He got subbed on the take. The family is pretty big mobile.

Speaker 6 (15m 1s): Yeah. I haven't, I haven't read too much into it, but Graham Arnold was the manager.

Speaker 5 (15m 6s): He was in strive to,

Speaker 6 (15m 8s): He looked at when we didn't get automatic qualification, it looked pretty dicey for him. It's pretty ballsy move. I know Maddie. Ryan's a great keeper.

Speaker 5 (15m 18s): I wouldn't take that right off

Speaker 6 (15m 19s): The bat. Ryan has played in the English premier league. Like he's done some good things, but the concern was his height and he's he's he's wingspan, I guess, for the, for the penalties.

Speaker 5 (15m 28s): Yeah. So I've never seen anything like the way this bloke, I forget his name, but I've never seen any Redmayne. I think it was in, he was dancing on the lawn. Like he was moving left to right. Dancing, dancing, gazing. Then the referee came up to him about seven times and was like, mate, what are you doing? Like, don't go off the line because if he goes off the line and saves the penalty,

Speaker 6 (15m 49s): He can dance side to side. Yeah. But

Speaker 5 (15m 51s): He can't come off the line. Yeah. As soon as you come off the line, it's retaken. So I was pretty nervous before

Speaker 6 (15m 55s): He did something sneaky as well. Yes. The other goalkeeper had notes written on the back of a water bottle and he's turf the guy's water bottle.

Speaker 5 (16m 5s): That's in a way, which is, I don't even think you're allowed to do that, but,

Speaker 6 (16m 9s): Well, you're not allowed to have notes

Speaker 5 (16m 12s): Or anything. You'll add notes on the water bottle. I think that's pretty

Speaker 6 (16m 16s): Sneaky. Sneaky,

Speaker 5 (16m 17s): Really sneaky. It's probably a yeah.

Speaker 6 (16m 19s): But if you, if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough. That's what I that's what those sporting athletes. So,

Speaker 5 (16m 25s): But yeah, so the world cup starts in November and that will be pretty exciting because our group is a lot. It's not easy. It's not easy, but it's a lot easier than last.

Speaker 6 (16m 33s): Who's that? Who's the tough one in our group.

Speaker 5 (16m 35s): France

Speaker 6 (16m 37s): Four didn't we play them in the last one. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16m 38s): But you never know. You never know. Like we played really well against France loss, world cup and we

Speaker 6 (16m 44s): Lost a lot toonie or one,

Speaker 5 (16m 45s): One Nyla. And it was in like the 85th minute. But yeah, Denmark, if we can draw against Denmark and, and bait to Tunisia, however you say that and this year. Yeah. So

Speaker 6 (16m 57s): It's in Qatar. So it's going to be 55 degrees and ridiculous to apply in luck. It's not going to be comfortable. I wonder if like some of the European teams that have qualified in nicer conditions than that will struggle with the Tennessean might do really well.

Speaker 5 (17m 14s): I think, I think like the England's will, England's got the easiest run I've ever seen

Speaker 6 (17m 22s): I'll bottle at somehow.

Speaker 5 (17m 23s): Football's not coming home

Speaker 6 (17m 25s): If that starts again.

Speaker 5 (17m 29s): So yeah. It'd be interesting to see, but I'm excited.

Speaker 6 (17m 34s): That's good. What else did we do on the weekend? Well, actually I'm thinking, oh, I recognize you from Instagram pugs. No, you, oh yeah. I caught you in the, the gold coast rollers liberal highlights in the top 10, top 10 on

Speaker 8 (17m 49s): The MBO one. Yeah. Yeah. There was a sexy guy in the background.

Speaker 6 (17m 55s): You were sitting next to a stash, right? Yeah.

Speaker 8 (17m 57s): Yeah. Stash. He's the sexy guy.

Speaker 6 (18m 1s): Shout out stash,

Speaker 8 (18m 2s): Man. Hey stash,

Speaker 5 (18m 3s): NBA photos stolen pugs. Whew. How do you think the series is looking? Golden state up three, two in Boston. Friday. Tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (18m 11s): Yeah, we good.

Speaker 5 (18m 12s): Who do you think takes it?

Speaker 8 (18m 13s): Ergon is like

Speaker 5 (18m 15s): Tomorrow

Speaker 6 (18m 16s): In Boston. That's

Speaker 8 (18m 16s): Surely I think they're going to come out. Guns blazing

Speaker 5 (18m 19s): Or Steph Curry. Didn't hit a three last year.

Speaker 8 (18m 21s): Yeah. And last time he had last time he had zero threes. He scored 13 threes. The next game

Speaker 6 (18m 28s): From 17.

Speaker 8 (18m 29s): Yeah. Like the dude's a beast, but

Speaker 5 (18m 32s): I don't see Wiggins having the same game. I don't see clay. He

Speaker 8 (18m 34s): Doesn't have to have the same game. He just needs to stop Tatum.

Speaker 6 (18m 37s): That's it? Anyone say the fake clay Thompson

Speaker 8 (18m 40s): Sweating.

Speaker 6 (18m 42s): Oh yeah. Pat Beverly reached out to him on Twitter and said like come to our home game.

Speaker 5 (18m 48s): Oh really? Yeah.

Speaker 8 (18m 50s): Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18m 50s): Because he'd been banned for 10 years or something

Speaker 5 (18m 52s): Really

Speaker 8 (18m 53s): Indefinitely. So yeah, basically. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18m 57s): It's still get away with it.

Speaker 6 (19m 0s): Jenko 69

Speaker 5 (19m 2s): Java. Java.

Speaker 8 (19m 3s): Yeah. The thing is though, like he got in, just walked in like five stages of security or something. Like it's not him. That's the problem. It's security. It's not his fault. He looks like a guy,

Speaker 6 (19m 15s): But I've seen clay do stuff with him before.

Speaker 8 (19m 18s): He's he's stuck in before beginning to be clay Thompson.

Speaker 5 (19m 21s): Just ask the question. Where is spider going? Pugs.

Speaker 8 (19m 25s): Spider. Anywhere about Utah. Berg. No one wants to be there.

Speaker 6 (19m 29s): I'm actually going to Utah. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (19m 31s): Well he wants to be

Speaker 6 (19m 31s): Brett does.

Speaker 8 (19m 34s): I have no idea where spider's going actually, but Miami let's just say Miami

Speaker 6 (19m 39s): Funny. We mentioned spider. Did anyone say that car? That dungeon master he's been on fire? I know he only reaps high end. So he's likely to get, but he's been on fire recently. Like what is it? Five or five rookie patch auto.

Speaker 8 (19m 54s): Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I was at three or five or five. I don't know. But it was number

Speaker 6 (19m 57s): Five. Number five. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (19m 59s): Yeah. In case flawless. Flawless. Insane.

Speaker 6 (20m 2s): Yeah. So I've just been on fire, so that's good to

Speaker 8 (20m 4s): See. And it's just been sitting in his cupboard for Mo for years. So yeah.

Speaker 5 (20m 9s): Sora, Mack Jones. One-on-one flawless yesterday. That was pretty cool.

Speaker 6 (20m 12s): That did I say somewhere that that bloke did that Mack Joe's that hit the market, the prison. One of 'em and sell for a hundred grade. Some kid pulled it. You got a hundred grand that guy's already trying to sell it.

Speaker 8 (20m 24s): Who bought it for a hundred?

Speaker 5 (20m 26s): Yeah. Oh, it's he's bought it in the pretty hype situation. I'd believe

Speaker 6 (20m 31s): Has done anything yet.

Speaker 5 (20m 32s): Oh, you took the Patriots to the playoff, but the hype there, because he's in the is play it pretty good. And it's the Patriots quarterback after Tom Brady. Like it honestly, in my opinion did really well. I don't think he's as good as people think he is, but

Speaker 8 (20m 47s): He's in the right situation.

Speaker 5 (20m 48s): Yeah. In the right situation. But he, he actually EMA some clutch throws last year and yeah, I think he's rightly deserved the hype. So

Speaker 6 (20m 56s): A hundred grand there.

Speaker 5 (20m 57s): Yeah.

Speaker 8 (20m 58s): It's a hundred grand us 200,

Speaker 6 (21m 1s): 400 grand or something.

Speaker 8 (21m 5s): Good mathematics.

Speaker 6 (21m 6s): Yeah. Have you seen the price of that logo? That triple logo man, LeBron

Speaker 8 (21m 13s): Met

Speaker 6 (21m 13s): 2 million, including boy

Speaker 8 (21m 15s): Is premium

Speaker 7 (21m 17s): Expensive cars. It's gone

Speaker 6 (21m 18s): Out isn't it? That

Speaker 5 (21m 19s): 6.6

Speaker 6 (21m 21s): Combat loss. So he was like 6.6. What was that for?

Speaker 5 (21m 25s): It was a baseball. It wasn't babe. Ruth.

Speaker 6 (21m 27s): I think we agreed. It was Honus Wagner, but someone will say in the comments because I think I was wrong and I mentioned it, but it's this was the chase card of this one set that drove the prices up for the, for the cases or the sealed stuff because no one had hit it yet.

Speaker 8 (21m 44s): And it was only a certain dresses

Speaker 6 (21m 45s): On involved and started ripping the product. The heart just exploded. And then finally someone pulled it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21m 51s): What's that, that isn't bounty on the Jack, the jackass cards,

Speaker 6 (21m 57s): 12,000

Speaker 8 (21m 57s): A hundred

Speaker 5 (21m 58s): Grand. Is

Speaker 6 (21m 58s): It? Which one's

Speaker 5 (22m 0s): Rob was talking about this morning. Who's the mango and jackass a hundred grand

Speaker 8 (22m 5s): Now. I'm pretty sure muscle tin grin.

Speaker 5 (22m 8s): I'm pretty sure

Speaker 8 (22m 8s): Someone else has

Speaker 6 (22m 9s): I'm Rob Coleman is Liam. Right? Crazy. Wrong.

Speaker 5 (22m 13s): I thought Rob said a hundred grand. This is

Speaker 7 (22m 16s): It. An auto Johnny Knoxville.

Speaker 5 (22m 17s): Yeah.

Speaker 8 (22m 19s): Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22m 19s): That's very

Speaker 6 (22m 19s): Cool. So this guy, we're not sure exactly what happened, but he's taking the car to PSI. Yeah. And it's come back authentic instead of graded. So I reckon he's pulled it in as don't grade it, if it's eight or less or nine or less. Interesting. And it's just come back authentic. And so they've put it up for auction

Speaker 8 (22m 37s): 10,000. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22m 38s): 10,000. So Liam was wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22m 41s): No, I robbed ropes a hundred cat this morning. What?

Speaker 8 (22m 44s): Rob was wrong. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22m 46s): Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22m 47s): Shout out robe.

Speaker 8 (22m 50s): I'll

Speaker 5 (22m 50s): Cop it for you.

Speaker 6 (22m 53s): Yeah. So there's a thought that there'll be a bidding war between like, cause drag, obviously one of the cars, but everyone's saying look, 7 million us.

Speaker 8 (23m 2s): It's crazy though. I don't even think it's that eye appealing.

Speaker 6 (23m 6s): It's

Speaker 8 (23m 6s): Busy. I grew up like collecting cards, like those exquisite back in the day, triple ligaments. And there was like Jordan magic Johnson and Larry Bird ones and stuff like that. And like I'd a hundred times prefer that and even look nicer. So I don't know. It is like, it is a cool card, I guess when you look at it, cause he's won the championship for all three of those teams. And then it's like the Lakers logo man, you can see is different than what it's printed, where the other ones are stitched. So that's kind of cool. But the cards damaged, it's got print runs like from the ink

Speaker 5 (23m 38s): I do that. It's such a mess. I

Speaker 8 (23m 39s): Can't

Speaker 5 (23m 41s): Do it properly,

Speaker 8 (23m 43s): But it is puny so

Speaker 6 (23m 45s): Competent from big boss this week. Marco's on a vengeance.

Speaker 8 (23m 50s): Yeah. One of my redemptions got like, they just gave me points 150 points and I'm like, yeah,

Speaker 5 (23m 57s): That's what everyone's saying. What is the go with that? Like explain a little bit on

Speaker 8 (24m 1s): Like what $15

Speaker 5 (24m 3s): Is that? So you're you, you get a redemption,

Speaker 6 (24m 5s): You get an older redemption in a, in a pack or yeah.

Speaker 8 (24m 7s): And it's, I redeemed it maybe three, four years ago and now they've just, oh, here, here's some, here's some points.

Speaker 6 (24m 13s): Here's some points and shut up.

Speaker 8 (24m 14s): I hope they don't do that with like my Kevin Durant and lamella bowls and Tyler heroes. And that I'm still waiting. It's really

Speaker 6 (24m 20s): Interesting luck when you're on the Facebook groups and you see like there's some people that just go, yeah, just spoke to Emily. You know, I've got these

Speaker 8 (24m 27s): White

Speaker 6 (24m 27s): Box for jar 1 0 1 or whatever. And then there's other people going in, like you said four years and I've got 15 bucks. We're at the point let's talk about,

Speaker 8 (24m 35s): And then you've got to pay for postage. Like you used the points. Yeah. You buy the card with the points and then you got to pay for postage. Nah, not happening.

Speaker 6 (24m 45s): I really, yeah. That's no good. Did anyone else see the PSA numbers for may last year?

Speaker 5 (24m 51s): I think I'm actually going to run around

Speaker 6 (24m 54s): Taking notes.

Speaker 8 (24m 55s): I was a good little boy

Speaker 5 (24m 57s): To talk to us about

Speaker 8 (24m 58s): Sorry. In may 842,843.

Speaker 6 (25m 3s): That's a lot. That's 850,000 cards in a 30 day span.

Speaker 8 (25m 7s): 22. If you, if you're doing days.

Speaker 6 (25m 11s): So 850,000 cabs in 22 days,

Speaker 5 (25m 14s): Two working days.

Speaker 8 (25m 16s): If

Speaker 6 (25m 16s): Ruby is good at her job in producing, she be putting the rain man numbers up around me right now because I'm just trying to work. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (25m 25s): Well hang over

Speaker 6 (25m 26s): Allen Allen. Exactly. That's not the first time someone's called me Alex. Thank you very much. Yep. Yep. That's enough

Speaker 7 (25m 36s): Ladies.

Speaker 6 (25m 39s): Not at the table. That's a lot of waking calls, but yeah. I don't know. 50,000 cats in 22 days. What stuff did they get? The calculator you're like, I'm genuinely interested.

Speaker 7 (25m 52s): Yeah. That's an absolutely insane number. They must just have warehouses filled with people. I mean, what are they? And then what's the quality of every one of those grades.

Speaker 8 (26m 2s): How long are they looking at each card? Like we, okay, can

Speaker 5 (26m 5s): You look at hours

Speaker 8 (26m 6s): 10 to 15 minutes, we look at one card properly under a microscope.

Speaker 5 (26m 10s): So explain how you graded, how long it takes you to grade your card. The grade, the grades here at platinum standard grading.

Speaker 8 (26m 16s): Well you get the microscope and you look at the cut under the microscope, every single bit of the card, front and back take photos of all the, the damage or whatever, again, scratches and everything like that. And then you get the little tool to check the centering

Speaker 5 (26m 31s): 15, 20,

Speaker 8 (26m 32s): Not that long, but maybe feel like starting up. But you can, if you get into a rhythm, you're doing it maybe eight to 12 minutes. Yep.

Speaker 6 (26m 39s): But I don't know, 50,000 cards. I've just rounded that up 20 days. That's 38 and a half thousand cards a day.

Speaker 8 (26m 49s): Like how many staff do they have? Like roughly, if you can do

Speaker 6 (26m 55s): Like, even if they are, even if they operate seven days a week, which I'm sure they don't, that's over 28,000 cards a day.

Speaker 8 (27m 1s): Yeah. And each person, if they'll do it in a decent amount of time, like 10 minutes, you'd be doing 35 to 40 cards a day. So how many staff do they have

Speaker 5 (27m 11s): Or what would the,

Speaker 8 (27m 12s): And you gotta have lunch breaks, tea breaks

Speaker 5 (27m 15s): The divide by need to be in there zinc to work that out, divided by

Speaker 7 (27m 23s): What would the divide by name?

Speaker 6 (27m 25s): Yeah, I did that. Does, do they produce how many or do they produce numbers of how many stuffed I

Speaker 8 (27m 30s): Have. I've never seen it anyway.

Speaker 5 (27m 32s): Oh. I thought they only have one in California. PSA. How many warehouses I got

Speaker 8 (27m 38s): As far as I know I won. Yeah,

Speaker 5 (27m 39s): Because

Speaker 8 (27m 40s): We've, there's a drop-off one. Isn't it? Isn't it? Is it California? Is it Texas

Speaker 6 (27m 44s): On more than one?

Speaker 7 (27m 45s): No one like, unless they just the cutting corners and they got something else going

Speaker 6 (27m 50s): On. Do they have the IOI

Speaker 8 (27m 51s): Or are they just looking at a car like from I value?

Speaker 6 (27m 54s): Well, that's another point

Speaker 8 (27m 55s): 38 to 40 seconds. I

Speaker 6 (27m 56s): Don't have sub goods.

Speaker 8 (27m 58s): So there's nothing holding them accountable to what they have. That's

Speaker 6 (28m 0s): True. Is it like you said, just an eye test, but like,

Speaker 8 (28m 3s): Because I remember when we were down in Sydney, hobby, hangout Sydney or Melbourne and the guy beside me, he had a gym mint, 10 PSA, 10 of a KD card that I want. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, there's no way. That's a 10, just with the centering was off. There was an edge where there was even white on the corners. So like, are they literally just looking at the card and then, oh yeah. Now tweet 10. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (28m 27s): And even if they are like, how do you get that many people trained up in professional graders train up to be able to look at it for that short amount of time and great.

Speaker 5 (28m 35s): It's actually pretty hard. Like I gave it a shot. I thought it was quite difficult just to look at the car, see every, like get the Marcus group like exactly. Right. And you're

Speaker 8 (28m 45s): Going to need it. And then

Speaker 5 (28m 47s): You scratch it. And then like when you're moving the car, do you go this way? It doesn't go the right way. And you're like, where did it go? And then you got to find the spot where you were like, it's actually quite a difficult process to do. And you actually got to know your cards pretty, pretty

Speaker 7 (28m 60s): Well experienced

Speaker 5 (29m 1s): For a hundred percent.

Speaker 8 (29m 2s): We tried to teach him up. That's why he's now account manager.

Speaker 5 (29m 6s): I'll take it.

Speaker 6 (29m 7s): No attention to detail.

Speaker 5 (29m 8s): Nah, I don't know why I get bloodshot eyes. I think need sunglasses.

Speaker 6 (29m 16s): Well, I saw her HGA did a little update there now and now 18 days away from clearing the backlog.

Speaker 8 (29m 23s): Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29m 24s): And cause they, they, I'm not sure if you're probably literally new grading company, exciting, dissolved, as on your own labor, they do horizontal slabs. And they came out during the boom when there was the backlog of PSI and BGS and they shut down and they sold themselves on those. I think thinking of attended by

Speaker 8 (29m 46s): The ones that said there will be no backlog.

Speaker 6 (29m 48s): We know backlog in when 10 days means 10 days. And that was their motto. And that's what they mean by

Speaker 7 (29m 53s): That's the dangerous one. You could start giving away guarantees like that. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29m 57s): And then the backlog came and recently they've changed ownership.

Speaker 7 (30m 4s): That's why I think our numbers are fairly like, they're good. You know? Cause like the, the, what we promise to get the card back to you in is, is pretty. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30m 14s): Yeah. But that's a, it's a tough, it's manageable, but it's also a really tough thing to scale. Look say, we do get that, that boom, that boom moment. You've got to be prepared and you've got to have your systems in place that you can't have a backlog.

Speaker 7 (30m 27s): Well, it's something like that, but that's, you know, the whole PSA backlogs and things like that, that cause you know, mistrust in the industry.

Speaker 6 (30m 37s): Yeah, for sure. And that's one thing we've spoken about before is the trust in what, like, why do we trust these companies? Is it just, they've been around like they've obviously they've got a proven track record for some things and not shitting on them. They do stuff really, really well, but there's other things I just really think they've missed the mark and no one's really like, obviously there's no nothing, no generalized thing that like holds them accountable. Like, and this is just industry wide. There's no industry standard with anything.

Speaker 5 (31m 8s): Oh. To get that amount of cards and like it that's massive, man.

Speaker 6 (31m 15s): They've gotta be, they've gotta be missing something.

Speaker 7 (31m 17s): You started worrying about the standards at that point a

Speaker 5 (31m 19s): Hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (31m 20s): I hope they're just being ethical. You know, they're doing the best they can. And it's a good job every time. But

Speaker 5 (31m 25s): I can't imagine that's

Speaker 7 (31m 27s): Hard to believe. That's

Speaker 5 (31m 28s): Crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (31m 32s): Speaking of HDA though. Yep. Cod porn. Like I love, I love car porn, whoever you are, car porn, like seriously reach out. Like you're amazing. I love everything about you. Just, he put out a post. Was it yesterday? I think it was yesterday about stuff. Boosting like reviews and

Speaker 6 (31m 51s): Yeah. So I think HGA using a new marketing company

Speaker 8 (31m 55s): That were bought by Anderson international group and they, and it looks like they've hired in clave key, which is like a marketing PR company to handle their marketing and boost reviews and comments. And like went through a whole spiel of like people that were commenting were working for in clave key.

Speaker 6 (32m 12s): Yeah. So I was thinking KJ said like, you know, we're 18 days away from clearing the backlog in Clive cave gone. Yep. Congrats. Well done. Yeah. And then everyone else underneath hopping, it is employing,

Speaker 7 (32m 23s): Oh they're all employees. Hey man. It makes you sad when you hear stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (32m 27s): Yeah. It's yeah. And then they're not even charged. Cause then you go into their profiles

Speaker 8 (32m 32s): And it says

Speaker 6 (32m 34s): Don't even try and not even those, you know those, I mean, I guess their dummy bots or whatever, but every time you post something about card, they're like, oh, I love the

Speaker 8 (32m 42s): Look

Speaker 6 (32m 42s): On promoted on. And then it's

Speaker 8 (32m 44s): Like, it's

Speaker 6 (32m 45s): Some dodgy looking lean. He's like, what is this? And then you find like, I think I've seen someone reach out to them and they're like, oh yeah, we'll re we'll give you, you know, 1500 friends or a hundred reviews for $45. Just send, send your money and your credit card details to you to this dummy. Like fun out. I'll be right back.

Speaker 8 (33m 6s): Yeah. I've got, I've got like rapper friends that use that kind of stuff and not like I see all these likes and stuff and I'm like, what are they doing? They all look at my car. They pull them from the trap.

Speaker 6 (33m 15s): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Has anyone else seen that? Adam Sandler movie hustle? Is

Speaker 8 (33m 22s): That any good

Speaker 5 (33m 26s): Cooper? Put it on

Speaker 8 (33m 27s): What time are you watching it though?

Speaker 5 (33m 28s): No. Eight 30 Cooper put it on. And before the movie started, I was,

Speaker 8 (33m 33s): Oh

Speaker 5 (33m 33s): Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33m 34s): Oh, I watched the last night I couldn't sleep. And I was like, ah, like, you know, I'll put it on fall asleep or watch half of it. And then you watch last night. I did watch tough gun Dan. I was pretty good too.

Speaker 5 (33m 43s): Can you give me another intro

Speaker 6 (33m 46s): Of tough gun? Absolutely dangerous zone.

Speaker 5 (33m 52s): Oh, Rob's just asked Liam, are you a mathlete? Like a sporting mathlete? Yes. I am rope

Speaker 8 (34m 1s): Like a sport athlete. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (34m 3s): Sport athlete.

Speaker 6 (34m 4s): Yeah. So Adam, Sam, basically, he's a scout MBA for the Philadelphia 76 years. And what he's done is all the basketball players or majority of the basketball players in the movie play themselves. So you're seeing these big dining plans

Speaker 8 (34m 23s): Except for like Anthony Edwards plays like another Kermit Kermit. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34m 28s): It was funny.

Speaker 8 (34m 29s): And he's like the bad guy it's

Speaker 6 (34m 31s): So good. It was good. It was really good.

Speaker 8 (34m 33s): Yeah. I really enjoyed that. Yeah. I'm like, that's my like dream life right

Speaker 6 (34m 37s): There to be the,

Speaker 8 (34m 39s): To be a basketball player like that got smashed when I was like 22 or whatever they might talk about that we should do. It could have been gone, but like it's such a good movie, man. Like I loved it.

Speaker 6 (34m 51s): And even the there's that new Yannis movie coming out after we watched the trailer

Speaker 8 (34m 55s): Before

Speaker 6 (34m 56s): Roz and that tells a story of human needs. The brothers, obviously they were grew up in Greece, children to illegal immigrant parents. And I think moved to America. One of them, he was 16.

Speaker 8 (35m 14s): I believe that's right.

Speaker 6 (35m 16s): And three of the brothers have now won NBA championships. The luck, the, the epitome of like rags to riches basically. Yeah. And it's now it's going to be on Disney plus I think.

Speaker 5 (35m 32s): Yeah. I think it might be,

Speaker 6 (35m 33s): But it looks really, really good.

Speaker 5 (35m 35s): I like, I just think I can be a movie. A

Speaker 6 (35m 38s): Auto your dream was to be an actor. Yeah,

Speaker 5 (35m 42s): No.

Speaker 8 (35m 43s): I also got me through man flu. Nice.

Speaker 5 (35m 48s): Yeah. I just have so many ideas. Like my, my head never stops taking over and taking over and it's all numbers. It's all

Speaker 6 (35m 55s): Squirrel squirrel.

Speaker 5 (35m 57s): It's all. It's all good

Speaker 6 (35m 59s): Things.

Speaker 5 (36m 1s): It's called perfect spiral. Yep. It's about a kid that grows up in Australia and has a spring

Speaker 8 (36m 9s): For

Speaker 5 (36m 9s): People take

Speaker 6 (36m 10s): It's easy. And by the way,

Speaker 5 (36m 15s): The, the base of it is he gets a chance to, to fly over to America. And

Speaker 6 (36m 22s): Is this just your life story?

Speaker 5 (36m 25s): No. Could be though.

Speaker 6 (36m 26s): the grew up in Australia to America.

Speaker 5 (36m 31s): He like, he could, he didn't make it at a sort of AFL level. One-on-one to

Speaker 6 (36m 36s): Show,

Speaker 5 (36m 38s): I know everybody, this is not me. And he gets a chance to go over there and he starts kicking the ball, but he actually ends up being a quarterback for an NFL team. So now a quarterback. So yeah, that's kind of the basis of my movie that I'm planning to do so

Speaker 6 (36m 55s): Cool.

Speaker 7 (36m 55s): Does it have like a depressing ending? Cause that's like perfect spiral being the title.

Speaker 5 (37m 0s): No, the ending, the ending is quite good. So yeah, they win the super well, so

Speaker 6 (37m 6s): That's good. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37m 9s): Well Yeah, exactly. All right. So

Speaker 6 (37m 19s): That's good. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that

Speaker 8 (37m 21s): What's created.

Speaker 5 (37m 22s): I'd like to, yeah. It's always been a lifelong. I thought of that when I was 12. So you imagine how many other movies I've thought of that was

Speaker 8 (37m 28s): Like two years ago?

Speaker 6 (37m 30s): 11? What, what else has been coming through the doors recently?

Speaker 8 (37m 35s): Oh, we had builders. We had huge submission by JCS toys. What's up? Hey. And like 60 of those cars were Michael Jordan, like base cards. It was so cool.

Speaker 6 (37m 47s): So like nineties,

Speaker 8 (37m 48s): Like nineties, like base cards that like,

Speaker 6 (37m 52s): Or

Speaker 8 (37m 53s): Now just like there's like minor inserts, but then there's majority of it were just

Speaker 6 (38m 0s): What will they look up a deck?

Speaker 8 (38m 3s): Yeah. I predict tops, flare FLIR, Skybox, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (38m 7s): Skybox

Speaker 5 (38m 8s): The poker one to

Speaker 7 (38m 10s): Skybox record. I can go.

Speaker 6 (38m 11s): Yeah. I love the borders,

Speaker 8 (38m 14s): Rob. Yeah. The ending is he's on a podcast.

Speaker 5 (38m 19s): That's how you'd like it to end Rob. That's fine.

Speaker 6 (38m 21s): That's a bit harsh robe.

Speaker 5 (38m 28s): Yeah. We had come on, come through too. So

Speaker 8 (38m 30s): Some real nice Pokemon,

Speaker 5 (38m 31s): Really nice that I like what I saw. I was like, dang. That's pretty insane.

Speaker 6 (38m 36s): Do you recommend going to see an influx of Socceroos cats?

Speaker 5 (38m 41s): I think you'll see an influx of soccer cards in general. I think, I think it's growing casually at a casual rate. And I think as soon as the world cup hits, it's, it's going to go from here to, it's going to go out. It jumped quite a bit. At least I know a lot of people are jumping on the soccer bandwagon now, especially in break pages and stuff like that. So I think you'll see soccer jumped quite a bit and it's number one sport in the like

Speaker 6 (39m 8s): Worldwide game.

Speaker 5 (39m 9s): It's a wild game. So you just imagine like, obviously the value is always going to be there for NBA NFL. Value's not quite there for soccer, but when it does, I think it's going to, I think it's going to stay there.

Speaker 6 (39m 19s): It's funny that the values aren't there when it is the wheel game and luck, there are those players that appeal to everyone. And so across sports borders, like, you know, Maradona, Pele, or those local Rinaldo and Messi, like, I don't know if you're going to see two better players in the same generation.

Speaker 5 (39m 37s): You've got the new guys coming through, but yeah, every night it's always been Riano messy for me. And then you've had like the backends, you know, the idols of soccer, old school Rinaldo. Yeah. A nine. So I think this world cup, because I feel like COVID had the soccer just starting to come up when they were playing with no fans and it was another way to interact. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of products that do, like, I think it's match attacks that do like soccer games for kids where they like get a score and they put it on their phone.

I don't know how it works, but something to do along those

Speaker 6 (40m 10s): Lines, similar to a NFL team coach.

Speaker 5 (40m 13s): Yeah. I think it is quite similar to that. So it gets the kids involved, but then you've got the higher end quality products and they're really nice cards. So,

Speaker 6 (40m 21s): Well, there's also the, the real collectability of panini stickers that haven't, hasn't hit Australia at all. Like if you go to Europe, every man and his dog collects panini stickers and they want to feel the booklet. Yeah. They have all these trailers, they don't sell the stickers. They do just do trades. And it's crazy like when I was over Nearpod, no.

Speaker 5 (40m 43s): Oh. And you were such a, such a soccer slash footballing place, you know, everywhere you go, they know every player like, and you know, it's cool. It's cool to see like the documentaries on football as well. Like you see where Neymar and stuff came from. You see where we're now pretty

Speaker 6 (40m 59s): Cool.

Speaker 5 (41m 0s): Just from absolutely nothing. Just always kicked a soccer ball and kind of the stories that make it good for soccer. So yeah. Sure.

Speaker 6 (41m 9s): Who do you reckon to win the world cup?

Speaker 5 (41m 14s): I wanna say England winner. I really do. I would love to see the fans in England get amongst it. I don't think they'll win.

Speaker 6 (41m 20s): The there'll be, it'll be,

Speaker 5 (41m 24s): That'll be two weeks off of,

Speaker 6 (41m 27s): I've just had a wake up for the Queen's birthday. I'll have three weeks off.

Speaker 5 (41m 32s): And then I think your best fro France, Belgium, Argentina. I'd like to see MSCI when it is last world cup. I think that'd be pretty cool to see. But other than that, they're probably the three. It might be an outsider because a lot of teams didn't make it this year. Like Italy hasn't made it. There's a heaps heaps of

Speaker 6 (41m 54s): European champions. Didn't make the world cup.

Speaker 5 (41m 56s): And like it's big. Partly because I think if you Horst, I don't know what the issue was this week, this year, but I think Italy got a bit stuffed over. So yeah, no Italy in the world cup. No doctorate chance.

Speaker 8 (42m 11s): The Netherlands

Speaker 5 (42m 12s): And Memphis, the pie. Pretty good play. Virgil van doc.

Speaker 8 (42m 15s): Thanks. Thanks Rob.

Speaker 6 (42m 17s): Speaking of Rob, he had his, his grand opening.

Speaker 8 (42m 20s): How was

Speaker 6 (42m 21s): That? Good man, man, Brett and I when showed support. It was real good. Ridiculously close to the guy, but I think he don't underestimate how close it

Speaker 5 (42m 32s): Is.

Speaker 6 (42m 33s): It's like crazy close. We saw a couple of AFL boys. Yeah. There's a coffee shop around the corner. Don't want to give away their, their coffee spot, but it's just around the corner and it's like a procession. Obviously they finished training go down and she has to get changed. Go grab a coffee and then go home. But I'd say a lot of them park.

Speaker 5 (42m 55s): Oh, a hundred percent right

Speaker 6 (42m 56s): Next to yeah.

Speaker 5 (42m 57s): And Rob, just being in Brisbane lines, fanatic lucky is he loves

Speaker 6 (43m 2s): . He'll be had they autograph hunting for sure.

Speaker 5 (43m 11s): A hundred percent, but it's also cool.

Speaker 8 (43m 12s): And he should get him to sign the wall, like have an autograph wall. There you go.

Speaker 5 (43m 18s): That's not a bad idea. There's one for free. But yeah, I think being that close and a lot of AFL slash NFL players are inter cards, you know? So it's a massive opportunity to, to walk past and, you know, come into the store and get a photo

Speaker 6 (43m 32s): I'd love. I'd love to see Rob and up on like robos vlog. Yeah. That he does on the issue. Like they actually really, really funny stuff. So it'd be good if Rob actually ends up on one of those or lucky said luck. Some of the players coming on. I like a couple of the NRL boys definitely collect. I don't know. I haven't seen any AFL collectors.

Speaker 5 (43m 55s): Yeah. It's

Speaker 6 (43m 57s): Well, actually I'm alone. I've seen a couple of them have a couple of bulldogs. Boys have been into that MFS prokaryotes down in Melbourne.

Speaker 5 (44m 6s): Yep.

Speaker 6 (44m 7s): Surely

Speaker 5 (44m 8s): And their own cards. Right. I think a lot of sales from liens collect as well. I think like, I think Paul had like captain clicks join us, but like he was talking to Rob was talking to one of the lines wise the other day and he said, yeah, a few lions boys collect as well. So yeah. So Rob's a submission partner.

Speaker 6 (44m 25s): Yeah. Yeah. He will be, that'd be announced soon. Yep. Who

Speaker 8 (44m 28s): Was just an announcement?

Speaker 6 (44m 33s): Probably get him in the newsletter. If we can. Also we sent out a couple, like a questionnaire to the submission partners

Speaker 5 (44m 43s): Receiving a lot of feedback.

Speaker 6 (44m 44s): So one of them, and it was like, this is a book.

Speaker 5 (44m 47s): Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (44m 49s): We could dedicate a newsletter just to this one shop.

Speaker 5 (44m 51s): So I think Ziggy came up with a good idea that we, we put snippets of it because there's so much people who have got to tell and the way everyone has a different way and how they came into the hobby. Everyone has a different way. How they open the show up. Everyone has different stories and stuff like that. And it's cool how they explained this story. So I think the idea Zig was to put snippets of it and then put a blog up afterwards. I think that was this

Speaker 7 (45m 15s): It's a bit tricky to raise rates stuff just in your email or whatever. Like you might as well, if you're interested in what it has to say, then pop through to the PSG website and check it out on the blog that we'll be setting up soon.

Speaker 6 (45m 25s): Yes. It's funny. Like all the content that the hobby has like worldwide, I don't know of that many blogs that,

Speaker 5 (45m 33s): Yeah.

Speaker 6 (45m 34s): It might be just the way it is like with technology stuff, but it's all over video

Speaker 8 (45m 39s): Blogs and

Speaker 6 (45m 39s): Stuff on, on like websites and stuff. It's not really. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45m 43s): Yeah. Well, I think it's interesting because like you think blog, which you think like, oh, this was me. I did this today. And then that today, like a diary, but like every cooking website, every content online, it's all just blogs really in one form or another, you know, like uncrate, all that kind of stuff. I don't know if you guys know about uncrate and all that, like it's like cool website that you go through. And they just like, everything is like, if James Bond had a site that he bought everything he owns from it's like on your it's like one of those curated sort of things where they pick out all the cool stuff.

But that, that stuff, it's all just, it's kinda just oldest blogs, you know? So that's cool. Be good to see more of that kind of stuff. Cause I mean, I think people love to read and hear about content to do with a hobby wherever they go. So

Speaker 5 (46m 31s): I think there is a lot of rating in the hobby. People read off, you know, they read up on prices, they read up on,

Speaker 7 (46m 37s): Well, do you spend searching through prices and stuff? Like when you want to find that

Speaker 6 (46m 41s): Even when a new product checklists gets, it's not, it's not a novel, but you know, it's hundreds of

Speaker 8 (46m 48s): People still have Becket magazine. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (46m 51s): That's true.

Speaker 8 (46m 52s): Even though we don't follow the price guide, we go to EMA comps. But like Becky does Beckett.

Speaker 6 (46m 58s): That's true. Oh, speaking of at the, that Jordan ordo.

Speaker 8 (47m 6s): Oh yeah. Went to

Speaker 6 (47m 7s): Decrease these. What happened there? Do you reckon

Speaker 8 (47m 10s): They had a, what was the word I'm looking for? They projected it to be two to 3 million, which is crazy because it's not numbered and there's that many,

Speaker 6 (47m 20s): He said that many home card orders though.

Speaker 8 (47m 23s): Yeah. Of the, of that card. Yeah. But then I remember in like 2006, 2007, FLIR actually put out 20 through 23 buybacks. Yep. In there I'm in like you could pull it in one of their packs.

Speaker 6 (47m 38s): One

Speaker 8 (47m 38s): Of them. No, that was just, I think it was just signed it like at a basketball camp or something like that. So I think getting 1 million is actually pretty amazing.

Speaker 6 (47m 47s): Yeah. Cause they were, they were projecting or estimating 3 million bucks. Yeah. So

Speaker 8 (47m 52s): Which is crazy. Cause there's heaps out there. Like there's actually a decent amount,

Speaker 6 (47m 56s): But what does the card going forward with? No with no water.

Speaker 8 (47m 60s): Well, what was the grade at 8.5 or something? 8.5 is probably like up to 10 grand ish.

Speaker 6 (48m 8s): So you said getting what? 900, 900 grand value for the order. That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 8 (48m 14s): Yeah. That's why I was like when my $1 million is

Speaker 6 (48m 16s): Nuts. Yeah. Interesting. Because the, I read somewhere that they reckon the guy bought it back.

Speaker 8 (48m 22s): Yeah.

Speaker 6 (48m 23s): Cause it was just like to save face or cause it's just like, you know, it's a big miss to project 3 million and then get one, like imagine this triple logo, man. Everyone's saying six and a half, 7 million. Imagine a tiny two. Millions.

Speaker 8 (48m 39s): Yeah. Yeah. Well I reckon we'll get for like six. I, I just, I just don't rate the car. That's my problem. But

Speaker 6 (48m 47s): I

Speaker 8 (48m 48s): Think it's beautiful card, but at the same time, there's nice ones.

Speaker 6 (48m 52s): Yeah.

Speaker 7 (48m 52s): It's amazing. How much of the just collecting something comes down to not even really what it looks like, isn't it it's like, it's like a, how, how different it is from everything else, which is why you were saying earlier.

Speaker 6 (49m 3s): Well, yeah, the fact that it's the 1 0 1 is probably the biggest factor for it. But for me personally, like I love shiny. So it, it doesn't appeal to me. Exactly. And you said you liked the fact that two of the logo man, a stitch and then ones printed.

Speaker 8 (49m 17s): Yeah. When I was a logo man collected back in the day to actually

Speaker 6 (49m 21s): For me, I don't like that for me. I want to know all stitched.

Speaker 8 (49m 24s): Yeah. Oh, I totally understand that. But I don't. Yeah. We didn't have stitch. They didn't have stitched NBA logos in the last couple of years. So being that print, rubbery, whatever stuff it is

Speaker 6 (49m 38s): At least it's game used. Okay. More.

Speaker 8 (49m 40s): Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 (49m 41s): But like most products.

Speaker 8 (49m 43s): Yeah. Not these days.

Speaker 6 (49m 45s): Anyone else go to anything? Are we wrapping it

Speaker 8 (49m 47s): Up? Grading, grading things. Video.

Speaker 6 (49m 49s): Ah, yes. Yes. That was actually some cool content from

Speaker 8 (49m 53s): A

Speaker 6 (49m 54s): Hobby Oz. I'm pretty sure that's lying.

Speaker 8 (49m 56s): I actually know. I looked him up before and it doesn't have any names or anything on that.

Speaker 6 (50m 1s): Yeah. But I haven't seen stranger things. Obviously I've seen the premise for what everywhere, but if now is now insane and go and check out

Speaker 8 (50m 10s): At the hobby

Speaker 6 (50m 11s): At the hobby Oz on their Instagram, they do like a little strain to things and the grading situation, a little video. And it's bloody funny. That was probably my, I think

Speaker 5 (50m 22s): We should do that. Like the office version here.

Speaker 6 (50m 25s): Who would you be? The reason you said that? Because he had thought about this before and you want to be, he wants to be Dwight, Dwight.

Speaker 5 (50m 34s): I said, I want to be Dwight smartest funniest.

Speaker 8 (50m 38s): I'll be Jim. And I'll put, be pulling all the pranks on you

Speaker 5 (50m 41s): As the more samples to what? Yeah. Funniest on the show. Have to admit he's the funniest. Yup.

Speaker 6 (50m 49s): That's it decent looking on that note on that note, the podcast is Special. Shout out to people who commented. Rob. I

Speaker 5 (51m 2s): Hope you're feeling better.

Speaker 6 (51m 4s): Who else did we say? His Western cards are on there? Yep. My bad anyway, guys from us at platinum standard grading it's Goodbar. Hey Ruby.

Speaker 8 (51m 16s): Hi baby.

Speaker 6 (51m 17s): Comes the squeaky door ending. Oh, you want me to do all those

Speaker 3 (51m 32s): Black, black, black?

Speaker 2 (51m 53s): Yeah. It's the highest sustained until the peak we have laid at. It's not silver. It's not going to do you want the best? Take advantage.

Speaker 3 (51m 59s): Go black, go platinum.