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Tyson Mutrux 00:00:12 Welcome back to the Guild live show. I am Tyson Matrix. And today I've got a really good show we're going to be talking about. pressing pause. We're going to be talking about, Gemini Gemini 3.0. That's going to be a really interesting one that just dropped. So I'm excited to talk about Gemini 3.0. talking about never being satisfied. That's that's something that I think, many attorneys and law firm owners experience that feeling. We're talking about online ordering, and I promise I've got a twist on on how it might apply to law firm owners and then some hidden playbooks. So that's what we've got today. It's going to be a good one. All right. Let's talk about pressing pause. And this comes from Sean Pury. S h a n and Sean took a deliberate two week pause. Okay, so it took off two weeks. No business decisions. no hustling. Really. Nothing.
Tyson Mutrux 00:01:21 Work related? Nothing. And it was intentional reflection. It was intentional risk. rest. it was all just low stakes activity. There was no, no risk of any kind. no overexertion. It was just purely rest. Nothing else. And it was really scheduled rest. and the way he put it was it was engineered rest. So naps, walks. unstructured water thinking is what he called it, and he just really let his mind wander. Really kind of an interesting concept. It. And the wine, the mind wandering. I like to do this exercise sometimes, where I will just sit there and I will let you know, like a lot of times you'll shut down a thought or you'll be thinking about something and you'll be like, oh no, I need to focus on this. I will let it just kind of flow and see where it goes. It's a really cool way of of, coming up with new ideas and being creative. And that's what it kind of reminds me of, is just letting your mind go.
Tyson Mutrux 00:02:32 And we're so restrictive with that. It's a it's a lot of fun. I enjoy doing it. It's a lot of fun, actually. and if you really want to add a add a level to this, do it before you go to sleep. And, I know that may seem counterintuitive because you might want to you're like, oh, well, I want to go to sleep. So I'm gonna shut down all these thoughts. Your dreams will be wild, I promise you. If you just kind of let your mind go. Just just let it go. I wouldn't recommend always doing it because it can keep you up, but it is one of those things where if you've got a little bit extra time, go to bed a little early to do it. But back to to Sean Peri's, experiment. I will call it. and he, he talked about how much the this break that he had. It really unblocked his clarity. I thought that was, really cool. His his creativity opened up quite a bit, which I'm not surprised by at all.
Tyson Mutrux 00:03:24 and another thing is better decision making. Okay, so better decision making. So disengaging allowed him to make better decisions. And I think that most of us think we got to be locked in all the time. So we have all the information and, I'm always tapped in and that way I can make better decision making. You know, he found that it's, it was the opposite. And it it, you know, to me, it seemed like it could be a really good tool for mental health, for leadership, for long term productivity for you. So here's where some of the of the key takeaways. Rest is strategic. So taking time off isn't just recovery. It can actually generate better ideas. Okay. So it's a it's it's a strategic tool that you can use. Okay. And so instead of grinding all the time getting less sleep there. And I think we are we all know that getting more sleep there's way more benefits to that than staying up late working. But when you're in the moment, when in the grind, it can be hard to do that, right? Because you're like, I've got to I've got to do all this stuff.
Tyson Mutrux 00:04:34 I get all these things done. I've got to get the kids to soccer practice, then I've got to do this. I've got to do that. taking the time to for strategic rest is important. Mental clarity. Another takeaway. Mental clarity comes from stillness. Ooh, that's a tough one for me. Without constant doing, your brain is free to think deeply and creatively. This is hard for me to being to be still and just do nothing. I remember Jim asked me a while ago, it's been a couple of years, but he said, when's the last time you just sat in silence? I couldn't, I couldn't even begin to tell him. the last time that I just sat there and done nothing and been still, it's a really hard thing for me to do. So for me to tell you, you should be doing it. I'd be a hypocrite. I'm just telling you what what Sean Perry says to do. And Sean Perry says it's a good idea. It probably is a good idea.
Tyson Mutrux 00:05:31 Okay, another thing, another key takeaway. Intentional rest improves leadership. so rest can make you a better decision maker and more resilient. So that's where the leadership part of it comes in, where you're you're more resilient, but you're also making better decisions. So I think that does make it better later. And then pause to think about long term impact not just short term games. So whenever you're doing this thinking about, you know. All right. What's the long term? I, I was talking about this the other day. I think I was at a my, my grandma's 80th birthday party, and I was talking. I don't remember who I was talking to. Actually, it was a family member, but I was talking about how Japanese companies, thinking in 200 years as opposed to like ten year increments. I think that's a really fascinating thing. But when you think about it like that, it's very calming to me where, oh, you know, the, the things that we're trying to accomplish in ten years, they really don't matter that much.
Tyson Mutrux 00:06:39 But if you think about 200 years, that's that's really deep thinking. And it allows you to be a little bit more intentional and a lot less extreme with your decision making. Because if you think I've got to get this thing done by next week versus, okay, what's the mission? What do. Where do we want to be in 200 years? It makes that decision that seems very stressful in the moment far less stressful, right? The thing I do right now that's going to affect us in the next week. Not super important. But how does this how does this decision affect us in 200 years? In 200 years, we're not going to remember. No one's. No one. Well, depending on the advances of AI, we all might be alive in 200 years. I don't know, but the odds are we're not going to be alive in 200 years. So how is this going to affect other people in 200 years? So it changes the stress dynamic quite a bit. So I think these are, there's a pretty good, fun little takeaway from Sean.
Tyson Mutrux 00:07:46 I think it's a fun little exercise. I, I don't know if I could take two weeks off. I don't know if I could just to do nothing but think that is a very extreme thing to do. But, you know what? Who knows? Maybe. Maybe I will give it a try sometime, so I, I can't I can't promise that I will, but it's one of those things where I think it's a cool little thing. I do think it's a fun, a fun little exercise to try if we can, but. All right, let's get over. Let's get into the next story. Gemini 3.0, and I wanted I thought it would be kind of fun is instead of saying, here's what Gemini 3.0 is going to be, here's what's going to. I wanted to read off some posts from people and to let you know, like what they're saying. And so here is this summary. So Google DeepMind unveils Gemini 3.0 with superior reasoning and multimodal capabilities. Google DeepMind launch 3.0 on November 18th, 2025, which was just yesterday following intense speculation from insider social media posts and Poly Market odds reaching 97%.
Tyson Mutrux 00:08:57 So, Gemini 3.0 just refactored. So this this is the first post. Gemini 3.0. Just refactored my entire code base in one call 25 total invocations 3000 plus new lines, 12 brand new files. It modularized everything broke up monoliths, cleaned up spaghetti. None of it worked, boy, but boy, was it beautiful. So I find that one to be my favorite of all of them. That was a pretty fun one. the it's it's just what? That's I, I love the the part. None of it worked, but boy, was it beautiful. That part is really, really funny. the next thing, Gemini 3.01 shotted this awesome website. It's over for front end devs and I do. What I'm gonna try to do is try to put this one on the screen. I did not send this to Amy in advance, so it's not something that she can put on the screen for me. Sorry about that, Amy, but, let's see if I can put this up here and and show it to the show it to the people.
Tyson Mutrux 00:10:05 Let's see. Here we go. Let's see. And this is the only the only time that I'm going to be running things today. So, lucky for you all, I need to share this tab instead. Here we go. And boom! Let's start over. Let's just play this real quick. We're not gonna play the whole thing. Just part of it. And for those of you that are just listening, by the way. So Well, I guess I should say this too. There is. What they did was they, they, there was a video game. They actually had had them do a video game overview. And so they, they must have prompted it to do this and to just create this. So if you're, if you are we'll probably do it for the podcast. Right. Cut this part out so that you're not worried about, you know, what you're not seeing. So this is this will just be for the video people. We'll just cut all this part out for the people that are just listening to the audio.
Tyson Mutrux 00:11:24 But, it's, we'll keep playing here. We kind of skip ahead because it's just a bunch of storylines here. I do find it really interesting because it's, It's for Grand Theft auto. Grand Theft auto six. I think it's what, is what that one is. And I think it's funny because they just announced that the date just got pushed back on that one recently, but they the person this post claims that they did this in one shot. and it's a pretty if that is true. That's pretty good. That's something that's really good. There's another one here. stop sharing. Yeah. Gemini 3.0 is going to leave a lot of front end devs jobless. And they go through their show on a web website, Born to Create powered by AI. And there's the website that they do. I vibe coded this little cute retro camera app with Gemini 3.0 in just one convo. Try it yourself. and a lot of people talk about things that they built, like apps and websites, all of that sort of thing.
Tyson Mutrux 00:12:46 I can't wait to try it. Make a cap cut in Gemini 3.0 into 239 seconds question mark and with AI exclamation point, it's Gemini cut! Crazy is what it is. It's DJ Gemini 3.0 gonna cook. so announcing design a new rep lit rep experience focused on beautiful UIs. The first nonstop AI design experience powered by Gemini 3.0. So I have heard only fantastic things about Gemini. That's, this might be the game changer that we've all been looking for. I have been a little bit bored with AI news over the last month. I'd say there have not been. I feel like for a while, lots of big things coming out of AI, and then it slowed down. This was the big thing that we've all been waiting on for a while, so this is pretty cool. I can't wait to check it out. It's going to be it's gonna be pretty cool. so can't can't wait to check it out. But all right, let's get into our next story. Never satisfied. This is a this is from Arthur Brooks.
Tyson Mutrux 00:13:55 And as we're he was talking about on the diary of a CEO podcast, which I think is just fantastic. I really do like that, that show. But he discusses why people often feel unsatisfied. So another way he put it is that they're never satisfied. And, and that's especially true when they have made it, quote unquote made it. And if you think about how many of you that you're listening to this right now, or if you're watching this on YouTube, or if you're watching this in the guild, how you you like, just think about where you are right now and think about, you know, three years ago, five years ago, ten years ago, however long you've been running your law firm, if you thought back then that you'd be where you are now, okay. And I'm guessing most of you have moved, have excelled past where you thought you'd be. Yet you're still not satisfied. And it's a really, really common thing. and he talks about how, those fleeting pleasures don't lead to long term happiness.
Tyson Mutrux 00:15:09 and said. And he talks about how instead, satisfaction comes from deeply rooted in scalable areas of life. I think that's a really cool concept. So by focusing on meaningful goals, so meaningful goals, not just external achievements like wealth or status, okay, that's why people talk about number of employees that they have I don't care. I do not care. I could not care less about the number of employees that you have. They talk about revenue. Couldn't care less about your revenue. Really couldn't. if you were making zero profit, but massive revenue, you're just. You've got a terrible job is what you have. You have an awful job. Those don't matter. Okay. So if you instead tell me that, you have been representing the indigent indigent for the last ten years, and you have gotten 15 acquittals or just two acquittals, I don't care. Oh, whatever. That's way more impressive to me than saying that you've made $1 billion. If you've made $0 in profit, then I don't care.
Tyson Mutrux 00:16:20 It doesn't matter. So that's where it's these, more meaningful goals. I think the meaningful goals will. If we can find a way to have more meaningful goals in the firm, it is. It's going to push us more. And we'll actually make more revenues by doing that. so I think that that's one of the things where if we focus so much on the in profits, by the way. So not really revenue but profit, by focusing on those things that are more meaningful, I think it will lead to more more of the things that we think that we want. But but by doing that, focus on those more meaningful things, we can develop more of that emotional resilience. That's what we talked about. And more long term content contentment, which is which is one of the things that many of us are hoping for is we're wanting that just to be content, you know, that that the the ability just to take a second breathe and be like, oh, this is good. You know what I mean? Just stopping and smelling the roses.
Tyson Mutrux 00:17:25 Another way of looking at. So some of the key takeaways from this. True lasting happiness is less about the monetary high. Is it more about enduring meaningful connections? The hedonic treadmill he calls it, makes us constantly chase more because we adapt quickly to our gains. All right. So we the reason why we continually are unsatisfied is that we are. We are adapting so fast to, what we're doing and our success that we're having that we're continually okay. Gotta push for more, gotta push for more, gotta push for more. It's ingrained in us. So don't feel guilty for it. It's ingrained in us. The four pillars. And I think some of you might have been wanting on wanting to know this part. Like, what are the things that that we should be focusing on? What are the pillars of that? And he talks about four pillars of faith. This is not going to be a surprise to many of you. Faith, family, friendship and service to others. Okay. Faith, family, friendship, service okay.
Tyson Mutrux 00:18:32 These are scalable, he says. And they're foundational sources of long term fulfillment. So put all of your focus on those, right? That's where you should be focusing your time. And then external goals, money, fame, status those should be a means and not an ends. So you should be using those things money, fame, status to help build the faith, family, friendship, service part of it. And so those should not be an ends. Those should be the means. And they work best when connected to deeper purpose. So tying in the four pillars with money famous status, tying those together to create sort of a a cycle that that is what works best. Okay. All right. That is the next enough of that story. Let's get into online ordering okay. So this is one this is from Harvard Business Review. This is a new article that's just from a couple days ago. And they talk about the name of it is improving substitutions and online ordering. I just really like Harvard Business Review articles.
Tyson Mutrux 00:19:42 They do a really good job. They go really, really deep. And in this one they argue that Bad substitutions are more than just annoying. They damage customer trust, erode profits, and slow the growth of online ordering. The authors highlight a common real world problem in online grocery ordering. I'm giving you the the summary of the article. Customers get wildly inappropriate substitutes. their research points on three strategic levers to improve substitution outcomes. All right. So I want you to think about if you do like you do online ordering when I'm talking about specifically not like an Amazon order, I'm talking about like you're getting like a food delivery or a grocery delivery and you get a substitution. I don't there are. Walmart does this where they will substitute something, and you will have a limited amount of time to accept it. And if you don't, they'll just substitute it. I've done I've seen that also with DoorDash and Instacart card where they'll sometimes do. Best option. Something like that. And the substitute is wildly different.
Tyson Mutrux 00:20:57 and I'll give you, an example. Let's say that you ordered some sort of a black bean burger. Okay. That's what you ordered. Black bean burger. It's all it's all veggies. Okay. And then the substitute is like hamburger. Like, that's obviously an insane substitute if you think about, it's ones vegetables. Ones actually. Meat. Okay. It sounds similar hamburger, but it's it's completely different. It's just a wild example. But it, it it does talk about like, how pissed off you like, think about how pissed off you might be if that happens or, let me give you I'll just make up an example. Let's say you were to order, corn dogs or something like that, and then instead they give you hot dog buns. So they're not I mean, sure, they're related to hot dogs in some way, but it's it's one is Got the meat and the the pancake doughy substance on the outside that you can kind of eat it on a stick and the other one's just like it's just bread.
Tyson Mutrux 00:21:56 It's just that you're not going to do anything with it except you need an actual hot dog or you need something else for it. So it's something that will definitely erode trust and really frustrate people. And so if you relate this, to relate this to a law firm, okay, you might be wondering like where is he going with this? it really comes down to availability, personalization and efficiency. It's really what it comes down to thinking about it. So think about availability. So think about services okay. So when it comes to grocery and online ordering it's it's about better inventory forecasting and management. And that allows you to reduce how often substitutions are needed. Okay. Think about it. When it comes to availability of your legal Resources on some files. You might be willing, you might have more time to do certain things on it that you'd want to do on a file, but because you don't have the resources, maybe you don't have the team members or the tools. You're not able to do those things so you don't have the availability.
Tyson Mutrux 00:23:04 Okay. And there are sometimes when it comes to personalization, there are some times where a client might want you to do certain things on a file that you don't typically do. They want you to sort of personalize things for your particular, their particular case or their particular matter. And I'm talking about anywhere from could be personal injury, or it could be a will that you're drafting. Right. It could be a will. And they want it to be more specialized. And they don't really want to go through your process. Well, in that situation for personalization I want you to think about. So use models to understand what your your clientele might want, how they might want things proposed or the quote unquote substitutions. Think about it from that angle, what substitutions might they want, and then have those as available options so that whenever they request those things, it's already kind of built into your process. And so they feel like they're getting a more personalized service, when in reality it's just part of your process.
Tyson Mutrux 00:24:09 You know, you have built this in where they feel like they are getting this tailor made, you know, service. And when in reality, you're just you're just kind of checking boxes, right. And then the last part efficiency. So because of that, because you're going to build these in, you're going to want to optimize optimize these quote unquote substitutions. So the substitution process you're going to want to make sure optimize that from an operational standpoint so that the substitution cost because there are costs to personalization and substitution. Right there are there are cost to that. But you want to make sure that you you optimize those so that that cost is less and so that there's less friction in the process. Okay. So it really comes down to like I said, availability. So do you have the tools or resources the team members for this. do you do you have these have you anticipated the personalization that, that your clientele might want and then also have you optimized this? And now that you you've you've thought about it, have you optimized your process for it? Have you built out those check boxes.
Tyson Mutrux 00:25:18 Boom. Okay I know that my clients want may want this. Okay. Let's check this box here. And then these automations are created. Kind of think of the process that way. And so that's where this learning from other industries for example like online ordering will can help us when it comes to providing these services. Online ordering I think most people might look at an article like online ordering and think, what have to do with law firms? But we can take a lot of those things and then apply them to to law firms to improve many of our offerings and improve the service that we provide our clients. So that's all I have for that one. And then let's get into the last story. And this is the hidden playbook. Before I do, I do want to say just good luck to Nate, the lawyer he's having as we speak. I think having a brain surgery, he's got a tumor. He's someone who's got a pretty big, YouTube following. so at Nate the lawyer, but he's he covers a variety, a variety of things.
Tyson Mutrux 00:26:18 Broad spectrum. He he kind of gets political sometimes, but, he's he he does cover things really cool on YouTube. So I think, I definitely recommend that you check him out. He's also on, you know, all the other social media platforms, but he found out he had a tumor on Sunday and he's in surgery today. So good luck to to Nate the lawyer. But all right, let's get to the last story though. Hidden playbooks. And this is from the marketing Against the Grain podcast and what they talked about in this podcast. It's with guest Erica Wenger, and they talk about dig into what some companies actually, talked with. Yes. Eric Wenger to dig into what some companies, what makes some companies actually win in today's crowded, fast moving tech landscape? They cover topics like why distribution has become the new competitive moat, the power of building in public and nurturing cult like communities. And which AI tools are overhyped versus ones worth your attention? one of the key quotes from this is what matters is that you're building something people want.
Tyson Mutrux 00:27:27 The VCs will come once they see that there is something exciting. So this when it comes to the tech world, I do find it very fascinating how, and this is when you look at the Gemini 3.0, like you saw the comments and then you see here like a. an episode like this where the, they're still talking about VCs and investing in software, all that kind of stuff. But the other side is like, that market is dead. I do find the that contrast really interesting, and those are just a week apart. It's just a week apart when it comes to things. But I, I find the building and public thing very interesting, and it's hard for me to do because I want everything. I want this like polished product to present to people. And I think the reality is, is people like to see you building things in, in public and seeing how things are happening. I think that's, I mean, I know I do, I like to watch the things, but it's when you're in that seat, it's kind of hard to do that sometimes.
Tyson Mutrux 00:28:26 but they just talk about that. So sharing processes process transparently and forming tight communities creates advocacy and trust. So they go out and advocate for you. So as you're, building this thing out in public and you're being you does force you to be more vulnerable. People tend to like you more and they tend to be more, I think they're more forgiving, but they also tend to advocate for you a little bit more. This is something I don't think we talk about enough. And I think we should talk about enough to talk about more. Is the product market fit? And they talk about how that's still the most important thing yet. You have to look at that first. If you are. Let's use let's say let's let's go. immigration firm. It might make a lot of sense for you to be an immigration firm in Miami, but it may not be so, so important in a place like I'll pick a small town in, Missouri, Mexico, Missouri, right where you have a couple thousand people.
Tyson Mutrux 00:29:24 It doesn't. It may not make a whole lot of sense to be an immigration attorney in that town. Product market fit don't make sense. So just because you want to be a certain type of lawyer doesn't mean you should probably do it in that town, because. So you might need to focus on another town or market in another town. So keep it. Keep that in mind. But so and they talk about before scaling or chasing growth, you have to ensure that you're you're solving something people actually want. A lot of people aren't gonna want an immigration attorney in Mexico, Missouri. They're just not. That's just the reality. Okay. growth loops. I love this idea. And then moat building winning companies create sustainable loops and see distribution as a lasting advantage. So community referrals and then users is the way they use it. So community referrals clients and then cycles, community referrals, clients, community referrals, clients. That's really cool. I'm big on loops. loops are really, really like feedback loops.
Tyson Mutrux 00:30:16 Those are great when it comes to your firms. But loops of any kind, those those are what gets you rolling. distribution is greater than product alone. This is interesting. So winning companies focus on how they get the product into users hands and grow momentum, not just the product features. This is such a valuable lesson. I, this should be the entire episode should have been about that because it does not matter if you're a great lawyer, if you can't get into, if you can't get the clients. That's the reality of it. I'm sorry, but that's the reality. You still have to be a very good lawyer. But. But the very good lawyers or just the mediocre lawyers are going to outcompete you, if that. If they can help market you, that is the reality of the situation. They're going to have a lot more clients than you. They're going to have a lot more money than you because you're not getting in front of them. Your skills matter, but you've got to get the clients.
Tyson Mutrux 00:31:13 Okay. so distribution is greater than your product. It just it's just the reality of what it is. Okay. So you got to start with marketing. That's the reality. You gotta start with the marketing and then build from there. So that's all I have today. I've got to get to our daily huddle. So, have a wonderful week everybody. We will be seeing you later. Amy, thank you again for running the boards. Really, really appreciate it. Nate the lawyer. Good luck to you, buddy. See you buddy.