Speaking Your Brand: Public Speaking Tips and Strategies

Are you ready to elevate your speaking game and attract lucrative speaking engagements? Diane Diaz, our lead speaking coach, sits down with one of our clients, Cherlette McCullough, a licensed marriage and family therapist, to delve into the keys to...

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Are you ready to elevate your speaking game and attract lucrative speaking engagements?

Diane Diaz, our lead speaking coach, sits down with one of our clients, Cherlette McCullough, a licensed marriage and family therapist, to delve into the keys to crafting a compelling signature talk that not only resonates with audiences but also leads to paid speaking opportunities.

Key Highlights:

  • Cherlette’s Journey: Discover how Cherlette transitioned from community speaking to landing high-paying gigs by refining her presentations and focusing on impactful delivery.
  • Signature Talk Breakdown: Learn the components of Cherlette’s successful signature talk, “From Selfie to Self-Reflection,” and how her engaging approach and relatable content captivated her audience.
  • Audience Engagement Tips: Get inspired by Cherlette’s innovative strategies to involve the audience, making her talks memorable and actionable.
  • Visibility and Media Appearances: Understand the importance of visibility in the speaking world and how Cherlette leveraged media opportunities to expand her reach.
  • Coaching and Growth: Hear firsthand how working with a speaking coach can transform your presentations and boost your confidence, leading to more significant opportunities.

 

You’ll learn:

  • How a single talk led to multiple paid engagements for Cherlette
  • The unique activity  Cherlette used to captivate her audience and make her leadership talk unforgettable
  • Why it’s essential to think outside the box when choosing your speaking topics and audiences
  • How Cherlette’s consistent visibility and media presence has contributed to her speaking success

 

We know you’ll be inspired to get out there on the speaking circuit!

 

Links:

Show notes at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/396/ 

Cherlette’s website: https://www.cherlettemccullough.com/ 

Discover your Speaker Archetype by taking our free quiz at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/quiz/

Work with us in our Thought Leader Academy: https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/academy/ 

 

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Carol Cox:
How do you create a signature talk that

attracts paid speaking opportunities?

That's where you're going to hear in our

conversation with client Cherlotte

McCullough on this episode of the Speaking

Your Brand podcast.

More and more women are making an impact by

starting businesses, running for office and

speaking up for what matters.

With my background as a TV political

analyst, entrepreneur and speaker, I

interview and coach purpose driven women to

shape their brands, grow their companies,

and become recognized as influencers in

their field. This is speaking your brand,

your place to learn how to persuasively

communicate your message to your audience.

Diane Diaz:
Speaking is a great way to generate leads for

your business, but speaking itself can also

be a revenue stream for your business.

I'm Diane Diaz and I am lead speaking coach

with speaking your brand, and that is what

we're going to be talking about today.

We're going to be talking about getting out

there, speaking, building visibility, but

then also using your signature talk and

creating a signature talk that can help you

actually get paid speaking gigs.

So we're going to be talking about that

today with our guest, Cherlette McCullough.

Shirley is a licensed marriage and family

therapist, and we definitely need people

like her out there speaking and sharing her

message. So welcome to the podcast, Shirley.

Cherlette McCullough:
Thank you, Diane, I'm excited to be here to

talk to you today.

Diane Diaz:
I am so excited to have you and for our

audience to hear from you now.

Take a minute before we jump into things.

And, you know, I mentioned you're a licensed

marriage and family therapist, but tell us a

little bit more about what you do, who you

work with and how you help them so we can

get some idea of what you do.

Cherlette McCullough:
Absolutely. So I am a marriage and family

therapist, a licensed mental health

therapist here in the Orlando area.

And my niche, or the population that I work

with are specialize with specialize in is

with women and with couples.

So all couples of all kinds, um, seasoned

couples as well as new couples.

So all couples around, um, relational things

going on with the relationships.

And sometimes people feel like that's

something that doesn't have to do with

mental health or any of those things.

But it has so much to do.

How we show up in relationships, how we

treat ourselves, how we treat others, our

expectations, how we handle conflict.

All of that stuff can come from our

childhood or experiences that we've had in

our relationships. So that's what I do in my

practice. I also do a number of advocacy

awareness things in our communities.

I serve on a few boards and committees in

our community, because I feel that mental

health services should be accessible for

everyone, no matter your socioeconomic

status. Um, and through my work, I try to

deliver that.

Diane Diaz:
Yes. And, you know, I feel like even in

particular, in the time we're living in,

your services are so greatly needed because

there's a lot of things going on.

And I think that, you know, mental health

counseling, like you said, is beneficial

regardless of what the situation is.

And, you know, there's the expression how we

do anything is how we do everything right.

And so how people navigate their personal

relationships then infiltrates the workplace

and everything else. So absolutely.

So it's it's important work that you're

doing. And so I'm for one, I'm glad you're

out there sharing your voice.

Now, you and I worked together, I believe,

back in December of last year.

But tell me a little bit, what was your

speaking experience before you and I worked

together? Were you out there speaking?

How frequently were you speaking?

What was it like?

Cherlette McCullough:
So prior to us working together, Diane, I was

in the community speaking, doing different,

uh, speaking engagements, facilitating

different workshops and things like that.

And it was going well, but it wasn't going

well, if I could say that, you know.

So I wanted to one of the reasons why I

reached out to you and wanted to know what

you do specifically and talk to you about

what I really wanted.

So back then, what I really wanted was I

wanted to take my speaking engagements or my

speaking speeches or presentations to the

next level. So at that time, I felt like I

was kind of stagnant.

You know, I knew the information that I

wanted to, um, relate to people, but I just

didn't know how to relay it at a higher

level. And sometimes people feel embarrassed

to say that, or sometimes people feel like,

I don't know what to say.

I just know I want something different.

And talking to you, you were able to really

guide me in that place of sure that this is

what you really want.

You know, I felt comfortable with you.

I felt that I could really express what I

wanted out of us meeting if we're going to

work together.

I felt like I could be candid with you about

that, you know? And so that's really what I

wanted. I wanted to continue doing public

speaking and speaking to different

populations, but I wanted to take my

speeches or my presentations up to the next

level. So with the information that I was

sharing, how I delivered it, and really

thinking about how is this going to resonate

with the, um, audience that I want to

present to?

Diane Diaz:
Yes, yes, I love that.

You know, I think you're right. I think it's

hard sometimes to say.

And regardless of what we're doing to say, I

think it could be better.

And I think I need someone to help me make

it better. So it's, you know, that's a hard

thing to say, but but, you know, you

obviously had all the.

Experience that you brought to this your

knowledge. You were out there speaking like

you said and doing workshops.

So it's not that you hadn't spoken, but you

at least recognized maybe this could be more

impactful and have a have a bigger impact.

And I don't know if at the time, were you

thinking about paid speaking engagements?

Cherlette McCullough:
Well, you know, I was thinking about that,

um, Diane. But in being specific, I wanted

paid, um, speaking engagements.

That was over a certain amount.

I couldn't get over the hump of a certain

amount, like, I can't I can't get over this

amount, you know, and then just, you know,

honestly, after we worked on my signature

speech and really changed some things, I

automatically, um, attracted different, um,

businesses. I attracted different people,

different entities that was interested in me

coming to speak to them about the different

topics that I had.

I mean, that one place that I spoke at, you

know, we worked on the speech together for

this one, um, specific engagement that I had

and from that one, that one that you helped

me with, right. That one I got about four

more. And then this past week, honestly, I

can show you the emails.

Honestly, this past week I had to turn down

three because I just don't have the

capacity. Diane and I just don't have it.

But that one.

Presentation that we did back in January.

That one, it just it's like it exploded,

honestly. It just exploded from there.

And I think I've referred a few women to you

because from those engagements they were

asking like, how did you learn to do that?

Or who taught you that?

And it's like, it's not about learning how

to speak so much, you know, because some of

us, we know how to and some of us have

gotten over that fear of getting up.

We're still nervous, but we've gotten over

that fear of getting up and presenting to

different audiences.

But how do we say, how do we make what we're

saying believable and impactful, and have

takeaways that people can take away and

share in their personal life as well as

their professional life? And I feel that my

signature speech, you are able to help me do

that. I'm really proud of it.

I mean, I'm really proud of that, um,

signature speech. It's almost time for me to

work on a different one.

Diane Diaz:
Well, first of all, you should be very proud.

And so just to for our listeners to give

them a little history here.

So you and I worked together in December and

you had a specific event coming up, which

was a leadership summit here locally.

Right. And then that was going to take place

in January. So we worked on that talk, and I

want to dig into like what that was and why

there was some magic in there that then led

to these other speaking engagements.

But then I actually was able I don't often

get to see the clients I work with on their

talk. I don't often get to see them deliver

their talks in person.

So it was a unique privilege and a such a

pleasure for me to be able to come to that

event and see you on the stage.

Yes, all your glory and beautiful suit and

you just, I mean, you you blew it out of the

water. You did such a great job.

Now, when we worked on that talk, you're

very welcome. And when we worked on that

talk, one thing that, that we, we came up

with was this idea of having this activity

that the audience would participate in.

So you want to tell us a little bit about

the talk, like what was it about and what

was the thing that was sort of the audience

engagement piece that you had them do at the

beginning and at the end?

So tell us about that.

Cherlette McCullough:
Yeah. So that was exciting to me.

I think I was more excited than the

audience. I was so excited to deliver it

because it it just did a lot for me.

But the talk was about leadership, about how

do you lead, what type of leader are you?

And I wanted to leave them with some type of

tool or some type of thought to think about

how do I leave?

Why am I leading this way?

You know, am I being honest with myself

about how I show up?

So we did.

The topic was self from selfie to self

reflection. And I thought that topic, Diane,

was so catchy because all of us do selfies

right now. You know, everywhere we go,

leadership summits, workshops, wherever we

are, we're doing, uh, selfies.

So that topic was really good.

And then the activity at the beginning was

something that I really wanted.

I wanted it to be engaging with people.

So the activity at the beginning was really

good. And it was, hold up your cell phones,

right? I asked them to take out their cell

phones, and that wasn't hard because

everybody had their cell phones out already.

I asked them to hold up their cell phones,

and they did hold the cell phones up.

And I asked them if something happened to

this little thing right here.

Right. If something happened to this, how

soon would you leave to go and get it fixed?

How soon would you get this fixed?

How how would this interrupt your day?

How would it impact your life if this little

gadget right here stop working?

If there was some type of malfunction and

just about everybody in the room was saying,

you know, like immediately, you know, I

would go and get it fixed, like I would

leave here like immediately.

And then I asked the question of, why don't

we do that when we have things going on in

our minds, when we're very stressed out,

when we recognize there are things going on

with us that is causing us to not operate in

our normal way of functioning, you know?

And everybody was engaged about that.

And then I asked them to go ahead and take a

selfie as well.

And that was something everybody loved.

I looked over the audience.

It was over 300 people there.

I looked over the audience and you should

have seen everyone smiling and just, you

know, taking selfies together.

And then we went through the presentation,

which was the ABCs or the framework of, um,

functional leadership.

Right. So and the first letter was the ABCs

of ace.

I'm sorry, not ABC was the ace.

How do I ace my leadership style and all that

stuff? So the first letter A was

accountability C was for.

Courage and E was for elevation.

And they literally I mean, they love, love,

love love loved it.

And then at the end, I asked them to take

that selfie out that they took at the

beginning. And we just had an affirmation of

speaking to that person about their

leadership style. And you know, what they're

going to do going forward for themselves as

well as the people that they lead.

And it was one I mean, yesterday I was at an

event and someone came up to me and talked

about that signature speech at that event.

So it was very impactful.

I think it resonated with so many people

there, um, in the audience.

And that's really what I wanted.

I wanted something that was modern,

something that was very impactful, something

that was relatable.

And it's hard to do that sometimes when you

don't have the skills like you have Diane,

you know, but, you know, it was won.

That speech is one that I feel that was very

relatable. I felt it was impactful, and I

felt that it was something that everyone in

the room could take away from, um, could to

have. They had takeaways from that

presentation.

Diane Diaz:
Yes, I agree, and I was there, as I said, and

I was in the back of the very back of the

room. So I got to not only which was good

because I got to not only see you, but I got

to see everybody in the in the audience and

what they were doing, which is nice as a

speaking coach, to not only be able to see

the speaker that you worked with, but also

to see how people are reacting to this

activity, to the content.

So I was able to see everybody being

involved, like hanging on the edge of their

seat, waiting to hear what you were going to

say. So that was beautiful.

But I love that activity because this is

what, you know when we're talking about,

like how to create a signature talk that

attracts paid speaking opportunities.

It has to have something, like you said that

really grabs them. And there's a lot of

leadership talks and you know, leadership.

There's you know, so many people speak on

that. But how do you take that idea and make

it timely and make it fun and relevant and

interesting in a way that's going to help

them remember what you talked about and then

have them tell other people so that then

you're now attracting other opportunities so

that that selfie activity that's timely

because we're all taking selfies all the

time. Also, that idea of selfie to self

reflection, we are all of us.

And I'm I'm as guilty as anyone.

We're all self-absorbed, right?

Yes. And so turning it from being

self-absorbed to self reflection, which is

the key to being an effective leader.

So it just does a nice job of playing on

something that's very culturally timely and

that we're all doing, but connects it to the

message that you wanted to share and nicely

tied in your framework.

So that was good.

And so so you gave that talk in January?

Yes. And how soon after that would you say

somebody reached out to you for a paid gig?

Cherlette McCullough:
Well at the actual event.

Oh.

Diane Diaz:
Wow. That's fast.

Cherlette McCullough:
At the actual event, there was a time where

we were able to take, um, pictures and the

audience was able to take pictures with the

speakers. And from there I had someone from

a, um, government agency pulled me to the

side and say, hey, I would like to know if

you can come and speak to my staff at our

office, at our building.

I want to get with you, and we can do this

and that. We exchange numbers.

We talked the next week and I was able to go

out there within.

Within two weeks.

Within two weeks, I had my first, uh, second

paid event from there.

Diane Diaz:
That is incredible. And then you said you've

done just from that one talk, you got four

events. And so how tell us sort of the, the,

the background of like, how did those come

about? Was it you knew someone or they saw

you or told someone.

Cherlette McCullough:
So from that one.

The first one that I told you that I found

that I, that I was, uh, in invited to speak

to and paid from that one at the event.

And then after that there was another one

that someone from that organization referred

me to an organization that they are a part

of. And so that one.

And then from there, there was one here.

I'm not sure, um, if you heard of it, Diane,

but there's one here that's called the 100

Women Strong. Yes.

Um, I was invited there to be the moderator,

um, for that event, which is their signature

event annually.

It's a huge event.

I mean, it was sold out within weeks.

Um, of them putting the tickets and stuff

like that out. So that was the third one.

And then the fourth one was, um, one someone

saw me on the news and, um, pulled me in

from there to come and talk to them about

mental health. And that one was paid.

Diane Diaz:
Yes. Well, so I'm glad you mentioned the

news, because that's the other thing that I

want to touch on.

You know, this idea of how do we create a

talk that that we start giving and then it

generates paid speaking opportunities.

And I think part of it is, is obviously

having the talk, right, having the talk with

the framework and the the hook and all of

that, and then getting out there and giving

it because you are I have seen you all over

the place here locally everywhere and and

but the key that's the key though to getting

these engagements is, is visibility.

You are so good at visibility.

And by the way, for our listeners, not only

is Cherlotte out there doing the thing, but

she is sharing it on LinkedIn.

So it is there's a lot of visibility

happening. So creating the talk and then

using that talk, really just going out there

and delivering it. And I will say even if

you're at first delivering it for free,

deliver it because that gets you seen and

then you can start sharing things.

Cherlotte, how have these media

opportunities? I've seen you in two media

opportunities that I've seen.

I'm sure there's been more, but how have

those come about?

Cherlette McCullough:
So I've been doing public speaking for about

five years now, but at an executive level

about two years.

So in the beginning, I started going around

volunteering to different businesses on

topics that I specialized in.

So compassion fatigue, um, burnout, grief

and loss, just things that I specialized in

that I was very strong in speaking about and

had a deeper knowledge and trainings about.

So I would go to those different businesses,

different businesses here in Central

Florida, um, and just volunteer to speak

with them about those topics.

And then I did a lot of work at different

churches here in Central Florida.

They would allow me to just come in,

volunteer, and then the different people at

the churches would then pass me around to

their different organizations, and then it

just started from there.

I also used social media where I would just

come on and just talk about different

topics, but I stayed in my lane.

I didn't talk about things that I did not

know about or things that I just read about.

So I just talked candidly about

relationships. I'm very passionate about how

people show up in relationships, how you

treat yourself, your relationships with

yourself, with your family, with your, um,

coworkers, with your employees, and

different things like that.

And I talked about that a lot, and I think

that gave me the reputation of being a

thought leader in this area.

And then I just added mental health, and I

talked about different diagnoses with mental

health and then just making it, making

people very aware of what mental health is

really about. You know, I have this

signature thing that I say, mental health is

about three areas your thoughts, your

emotions and your behaviors.

You know, and I wanted to be a speaker that

people remembered because there's so many

speakers here. Right, Diane.

So I usually do things with like something

catchy to it or something like one, two,

three or something like ABC or like ace,

like the signature speech that we spoke on.

So it gives people that opportunity to grab

it, hold on to it and use it again because

it's so memorable.

Um, and then that's how I started becoming a

speaker and just, just started doing those

things over and over and over and over

again, you know, uh, and then with the

media. Someone on channel nine called me one

day and just asked if I could talk about,

um, an issue with a youth.

Something was going on with the youth in our

community about five years ago, and I

started talking to them about that.

I did that one interview, and then that

reporter called me again, and then that

reporter sent me to another reporter, and

then that reporter sent me to another

reporter. And then then channel six called

and they asked if I could talk on this.

And I was like, yep, I talked to them.

And then channel two called and I said, yep,

I can talk to you too.

And then channel 13 called is like, yep, I

can talk to you too.

Diane Diaz:
That's fantastic.

Cherlette McCullough:
Um, radio stations like NPR, radio, Wmfe, our

local radio. They called and asked if I

could talk on different topics, and then I

started doing, um, those things with them.

And then we have an entertainment company

here at Afrotainment.

They reached out to me, one of their talk

show hosts, and asked if I could come on and

be their mental health contributor.

And that's how I was, um, paid for that.

Just coming on talking about mental health

things. And then most recently, um, I

started doing well.

Two years is coming up on this year will be

two years. I started doing mental health

talks with ABC Action News six out of

Philadelphia, Delaware and New Jersey.

I started doing mental health contributions

for them, and then that landed me, um, and I

think I think I told you about this, Dan.

But most recently, TV1 reached out to me and

I did my first show with them for the true

crime series Fatal Attraction.

Being a mental health expert, uh, with them.

And then they called last week and they

hired me for another episode.

So this is my second episode with them.

But all of that came from, like you said

earlier, Dan, putting myself out there

talking about the things that I am strong in

and just staying in that vein.

And I think sometimes, Dan, these podcasts

that you have, I think they're so relevant

for those of us, um, that do public

speaking, because sometimes we have this

thought of, I need to be an expert in

everything. I need to be able to talk about

everything. But I think that's why it's so

good to speak with a coach, a speaking

coach, honestly, because you all give us

that confidence that, hey, what you have to

say is relevant and this is how you're going

to deliver it. You know, this is, you know,

you know what you want to say, but I'm going

to help you enhance that, you know, for the

different audiences.

And I'm going to give you some ideas to

think about and all those things.

So it's not so much that you give us

speeches to come up with, you know, you give

us what, but it's truly coaching.

You know, a lot of us have we know what we

want to say, but we just don't know how to

put it together.

And that's why I believe in getting help.

If you want to go to the next level, if you

want those $10,000 speaking engagements, if

you want those $10,000 TV shows or different

networking type things that you want to work

with different networks, that's when you do

get a coach to help you get over that hump.

And that's how I viewed it.

It's not so much like I don't know what to

do, but I needed help to get over that hump.

And now you know, hey, Diane, now you're.

Diane Diaz:
Turning down stuff.

Yeah.

Cherlette McCullough:
Last week. Diane, all jokes aside, last week

I had to turn down three paid speeches.

A good problem.

Diane Diaz:
To have, right?

Cherlette McCullough:
Let me tell you, Diane, I wanted to do it

now, but I just didn't have the capacity to

do it. But, yes, I think that's what happens

when you get that help.

It's just like you have the cake, but you

just need that icing and you need the right

candles to go on that cake to, like, take

that cake up to the next level, you know?

Yeah, that's what I think coaching is all

about. I believe in coaching.

I believe in coaching.

That's how I really feel.

That's how we get to the next level.

Diane Diaz:
Well, I'm so glad that you shared that whole

trajectory because I did want, you know, we

often get questions from clients about,

well, how can I get paid to speak, how can I

get paid to speak? And the getting paid to

speak often starts with just speaking for

nothing. Like you said, you just went and

sort of offered yourself up to say, I can

speak on this, I can speak on this for free

to volunteer.

But that built started to build your

credibility and so, so right for everybody

listening, let's use sure let's example as

sort of the guidelines like it it you

probably will not get paid to speak

overnight unless you're a well-known

celebrity. Right. That's but what you can do

is time is going to pass whether you start

working on this or not. So start working on

it now.

Get yourself out there first, create a

signature talk that is interesting.

And like Cherlotte saying has a hook.

It has a framework.

You have a story, you have some audience

engagement. And that is a talk that people

want to hear. Because again, so many people

speak on leadership. So you could have

easily said, well, I don't want to speak on

leadership because everybody speaks on

leadership. What do I have to say that's

important. But you took the opportunity, and

then we created a talk that turned that

message into something even higher level and

interesting and engaging.

But now you're out there building visibility,

and then little by little, more

opportunities come your way.

More opportunities. You're coming come your

way until finally you.

Give that talk and bam, you start to get

paid engagements and and supporting that

with the visibility by okay I spoke here I'm

going to put that on LinkedIn.

I was I appeared on this news channel put

that on LinkedIn and sharing it.

Then other people start to say, oh, we we

need someone to talk on mental health.

Well sure. Let talks about that.

So anything tangentially related to that you

can speak on it. And look what look what

you've grown it into now.

Now you're you're being requested by media

outside of our area.

I mean that's phenomenal.

Yes. And so I love to see this because, you

know, sometimes it can feel like well, you

know, I know what I'm talking about.

So I should be able to just, you know, go

ask for money to speak.

But it does take we know and we say it takes

about two years, right, of consistent effort

and delivering your message to build the

visibility and the awareness of the audience

and anybody that might want your speaking

services. It takes about two years to build

that awareness and that visibility.

But start today and then you will get there.

Cherlette McCullough:
And you know, Diane, it's all about being

strategic too. And I know you hear that word

a lot, but just being strategic about where

do you do your signature talk, you know.

Yes. What audience really want to hear what

you're talking about.

And don't put yourself in situations where

people don't want to hear about what you're

talking about, you know?

So I'm not going to just go out and just

say, hey, I'll talk to you about mental

health. No, I'm usually at places where

people want to hear about mental health.

And there's one I shared this with people,

and some people laugh.

Some people go like, ah, I even went to

funeral homes and offered my services around

grief. So I would help families who are

going through the loss of a loved one.

And I would do a grief workshop for funeral

home directors.

You know, they could have their staff come

in, and I just talk about grief and what it

looks like and what to look like after this

happened. And from there, I was sent around

to different places to talk about, um,

grief. Yeah.

Diane Diaz:
Yeah.

Cherlette McCullough:
So thinking outside of the box too.

Diane Diaz:
Yes, yes.

And thinking like like you were saying, you

know, you have this one core message, but

who could that appeal to?

And even thinking outside the box, are there

any tangentially related audiences that

might want some version of that talk?

Right. So it's staying in your lane, but

also thinking outside the box of other

areas. You might be able to add value

through your message, and that is what's

building that visibility. So now you've got

this sort of visibility bucket, if we can

call it where you've built this or this

foundation, and now you are getting people

reaching out to you to come on their news

channel, to come speak to their

organization. That is the position we want

to be in. And so again, to our listeners,

this for sure, let this, this explosion of

opportunities look at what came from just

giving that talk that one time.

That is phenomenal.

And I'm just I'm you should be so proud of

yourself.

Cherlette McCullough:
I really am, Diane.

And the other thing I want to say to the

listeners, some people may say or feel like,

hey. What I want to talk about is not

relevant right now.

Mental health is something that everybody is

talking about. Yep.

You know, we want to move away from that

type of thinking.

Yes. And think about who is the audience.

Where is that audience that want to hear my

signature talk? Because there is an audience

for your signature talk, those things that

you are passionate about, those things that

you speak really well about.

There is an audience for that.

There is an audience.

I have someone here that shares space with

me in my office, and her niche is one that

you would some people would probably say,

you know, I don't know if people really, you

know, want to hear about that.

And it's about bariatric surgery.

So let me tell you, she got really focused

about what it is that she wants to talk

about when it comes to weight loss surgery.

And I promise you this.

She has had speaking engagements all over

the country.

Diane Diaz:
Yes.

Cherlette McCullough:
About bariatric surgery and support after

bariatric surgery.

I mean, right now she's in Greece.

Oh, there's a retreat that she's at that

she's. They're talking about her niche.

Diane Diaz:
Yes.

Cherlette McCullough:
I said that to say don't minimize what it is

that you want to talk about.

Listen, of course, in your mind, it feels

like, oh, this is an important.

That's why it's so important to get

coaching, you know, and allow the coach to

help you expand on that area that you have.

You know, you can sit and talk with someone

who can give you ideas outside of the box

around that topic that you're passionate

about. So don't give up and don't feel like,

oh, you know what?

Well, it's happening for her because

everybody is talking about mental health

after the pandemic. No, there's hundreds of

therapists out here for the news networks

to, you know, choose from.

But why do they choose me?

Because there's something different.

And that's why we get coaching to be

different.

Diane Diaz:
Yes. Oh, well, I you it's almost like I paid

you to say this because no, you.

Cherlette McCullough:
Did not pay me.

Diane Diaz:
I know this is what we tell our clients too,

is this. Everybody has a message, and I

guarantee you there's an audience for it,

right? Oh, everyone has an audience.

In fact, we like to say your audience is out

there and they're waiting for you.

On you. Yeah, they're waiting for you to

take that topic that everybody already talks

about and deliver it to them in a way that

resonates with them because of your story,

because of your framework, because of the

way you engage with them and your unique

delivery of that message.

There's an audience waiting for you, but you

just have to get started.

And like you said, get coaching.

Yes, find a new twist on the way to deliver

that talk and to make it authentic to you.

When I watched you, Cherlotte in January,

deliver that talk that the way you

delivered, it just felt so organic and so

authentic to who I feel.

And I didn't even know you that well at that

point. But just what I gathered about your

personality, it was such a good fit for you.

The delivery, the audience, the you know,

how you delivered it, the way they

responded. Everything was just seamless.

And so, you know, I agree.

If you if you have a message to share, don't

worry if there's already other people

speaking about it, there's not there's not

you speaking about it and they're not

speaking about it the way you would speak

about it. So there is an audience out there

waiting for you. So it starts though, by

creating that signature talk and then

building on the visibility, the way that

you've done and that bariatric surgery

example with your colleague is such a great

example. Right. That's you might not think

there would be an audience for that, but

there is an audience literally for

everything. There is an.

Cherlette McCullough:
Audience. There is an audience.

Diane Diaz:
Trust me. Yes, yes and yes way they

absolutely, absolutely pay you.

And so why shouldn't it be you?

Why? Right.

Well, it should.

Speaker4:
Be you.

Diane Diaz:
Why shouldn't it be you?

Yes, yes.

Well, so tell us then, um, what is on the

horizon for you in the future as far as your

speaking goes and your visibility?

Any, any new exciting opportunities coming

up, or do you have any other plans for

speaking?

Cherlette McCullough:
So no other plans right now, just, you know,

just going around the United States

speaking. I would like to speak outside of

the country on mental health and the effects

of mental health and how it impacts us and

how it shows up in every area of our lives.

I would really love to do that.

That's a that's a goal that I have for, um,

present presenting to a different audience

outside of the country.

But, you know, now I'm just focused on, you

know, seeing clients in the office and also

this, uh, network TV one, working with them

and expanding that and seeing where that

goes after these episodes.

Uh, air and things like that.

I'm really excited about that.

Um, one of the speaking engagements that I

got from that signature talk is with the

Early Learning Coalition.

So I'm really excited to work with them.

They've hired me to do their keynote, their

annual speaking, and then I'm going to do a

couple of their small retreats that they're

doing. So I'm excited about that.

Diane. Different things, uh, going on with

that and just staying busy and out here

doing what I feel I'm called to do about

mental health awareness.

Diane Diaz:
Well, see, and that's you're responding to

your calling, and that is what leads to all

these opportunities, because you are doing

the thing that you were uniquely gifted to

do. So that I love to see it.

And I, I just cannot say enough good things.

And everybody listening go to Cherlotte's

LinkedIn profile, go to her content.

There you can see portions of her talk.

You can see her on the different stations in

the news media clips that she shares.

And then you can get a sense for not only,

of course, Cherlotte's fabulousness, but

also the way that she's leveraged.

Well, you're welcome. The way that she's

leveraged this opportunity and her

visibility in a way that then leads to these

paid opportunities.

And also, you just mentioned something, too.

You're speaking to the Early Learning

Coalition. Don't think that nonprofits don't

have money to pay you to speak because they

do. Because they put on conferences, they do

trainings, they have budgets.

Cherlette McCullough:
They do. And then they have sponsors also

that. Yes, the speakers.

Speaker4:
Yes.

Diane Diaz:
So keep that in mind as well.

All right. Well, so as I said, go to

Cherlotte's LinkedIn. But in addition to

LinkedIn, Cherlotte, how can our listeners

connect with you.

Cherlette McCullough:
So they can also go to my website which is

center peace therapy.

Org.

Speaker4:
And I believe that's P.e.a.c.e..

Diane Diaz:
Right.

Speaker4:
Center.

Cherlette McCullough:
P.e.a.c.e. like Center peace center.

Peace your heart.

That's why I named it that.

You know.

Speaker4:
I love the name peace.

Yes. All right.

Cherlette McCullough:
C e n t e r p e a c e.org.

And they can reach me there.

All those things, they can reach out to me

there. They can send me an email there.

I have, um, books there that they can get

different books that I've written, quick

books that I can get, um, that they can get

digital copies and stuff like that there

too.

Diane Diaz:
Fantastic. And we'll put that in the show

notes as well, so everybody will have access

to that. Well, Cherlotte, thank you so much

for coming on the podcast today.

It has been not only a pleasure to work with

you, but just a pleasure to chat with you

today and to share you with our listeners,

which I know they're going to love.

Cherlette McCullough:
Thank you, Diane.

Thank you so much.

Diane Diaz:
Absolutely. All right.

Well, to everybody listening, if you'd like

to learn more about your speaker archetype

and see what type of a speaker you are, you

can visit our website and take our speaker

Archetype quiz. And that is at speaking your

brand.com/quiz. Again that is speaking your

brand.com/quiz. Until next time.

Thanks for listening.