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Shannon: Hello everybody.
Welcome to another unique and special episode here of Putin's co podcast Pops.
We actually have, for the first time ever, a returning guest on the pop.
Woo woo woo.
And I couldn't be more excited.
We have the illustrious Mr. Dmitri from GW Pro Dmitri, how are you?
Dmitry: Oh, thank you for inviting me, Shannon.
Hello.
How you doing?
Yeah, that is great.
Pleasure, honor to be the first returning guest.
Yeah.
In the boat.
Cast in in dive.
Value is so much.
Yeah.
When people meet again in the world of educational Yeah.
It means a lot for, for both those sides.
Yeah.
Shannon: Absolutely.
And that's a special honor because I mean, you know, I gotta put up with you once, if I wanna put up with you a second time, you know you're pretty good.
Dmitry: Yeah.
It's a sign.
Shannon: Exactly
and, and if people haven't figured out yet, gotta put up with you.
It is clearly sarcastic.
It is truly my honor, and I am so excited to talk about GW Pro developments, along with, um, some collaborations that we're doing and, and everything that's happening.
So why don't you kick it off and kinda let us know what's been going on with GW Pro since we last chatted
Dmitry: Yeah.
And when was it?
So we, I think like eight months ago, I.
Shannon: about that.
Yes
it
Dmitry: about that.
Yeah, things we, there are tons of changes, but I will tell about the most, I think important one.
Ones, uh, so what do we have now?
In comparison compared to the previous meeting.
So we have 25 modules.
That's important because it's a huge library.
This is very simple and the most important things we are, we have added is multiple that you already seen and it's going available.
It's becoming available to all licenses, even demo ones.
And the second part, which is also very important, we are doing versions for, uh, non VR devices.
I mean, Chromebooks with WebGL, typical laptops, not very modern pieces, so we.
Can get in the classroom field with not very top computers, but yeah, it'll be working okay that.
So, and yeah, we're developing the product and very heavily, we are talking with your help also, uh, to CTE teachers.
And, uh, I think we this year already brought us more insights about it than ever before.
So we visited educational exhibitions, talked to teachers, and we heavily change.
We are heavily changing the product to be CT oriented, uh, helping teachers integrate it easily and giving them additional materials.
Shannon: Already fascinating
I, definitely not boring at all.
And it, it, he says it very nonchalantly.
Um, but I don't want people to misunderstand the amazing developments that have been done and props that I wanna you
for actually, When you said available on all devices, that, that's huge right there because, um, I want people to understand that no longer do they have
to
have
a headset keeping them in, you know, ke maintaining a barrier against access to
these simulations
Dmitry: I think this is more about, sorry, but this is more about the availability for people.
We started with vr.
No, we wanted immersive.
We wanted the best possible training experience.
Yeah.
But the main question is now the availability for the students.
So, and we, we decided like this, so if we can give the student a good experience without the VR headset, maybe, but yeah, we should do it first.
And after that, yeah, we'll invite two vr.
Some people maybe don't like it, but Yeah.
First is experience and the knowledge for the student.
Shannon: Exactly, and with the, you know, the, the pro prolific amount of schools that are now, you know, one-to-one with devices, you know, post COVID, everything like that.
We're just seeing that, you know, that's something that's currently available and with the, you know.
Uncertainty surrounding funding and, you know, new purchases, things like that.
We have to meet educators and students where they are.
And that's absolutely where they are, is, hey, we know that.
And everybody in, in, in the industry, quote unquote, knows that the headset and getting them into the headset is the end goal, and that is clearly the most effective.
But if they don't have that, how are they still able to access this content?
And so you have now even answered that and they're able to absolutely start to.
Understand what it not only feels like to be on the job site, but to start to interact in the skills that are going to be needed to complete that job right from their very own device.
Dmitry: the, the very important thing I, I believe is it's not only important the experience with some, uh, location virtual one, but you can meet in multiple that and meeting people in vr, uh, uh, let us do different roles.
Even when you are not playing this as we wish to, like step by step scenario, everything, you can assign roles to different students.
So you'll be observer, you'll be the job supervisor, you'll be some, some other guy and they can communicate and make this role playing on vacation safely in the classroom.
But being there, this is the the great addition I think.
Shannon: Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
And I love that you pointed that out too, that you can join a session and still be in the same, you know, virtual space.
You can assign roles, but then also too, you're getting that observational, um, ability so that you can have.
That exposure to certain experts in the field.
So, you know, if I'm exploring what it's like to, to work with, you know, scaffolding at heights, I certainly am not an expert, but you know, whether it be my
teacher, whether it be, you know, the local, you know, person who is actually in that field actively working, doing the job, you can have them come in and, and.
Talk and show people right from the safety of their device, and you're not having to take them up to the different heights and everything else.
And that's something that would.
I think is kind of a, a feature that most people either take for granted or overlook.
Like, yeah, it's awesome that now the students can join, but the ability to bring the students access to experts in the field has now just completely been opened up.
Because let's face it, you know, we're still trying to get this technology across.
The different industry is education.
We were recently just talking about how, how difficult it is to introduce new technology.
So then when you're trying to introduce it to the local, you know, trades group that has never heard of it, it's even, you know, it's even more of a struggle.
But now nobody has that barrier
Dmitry: thank you so much, and we're always feeling like we're pushing something round into the square hole.
Like it's not people like understanding, but it's not fitting.
They say, oh, that is great.
This is a shiny new toy, but we don't know how to use it.
We don't have time.
We have other things to do and we're already doing this the old way and we like it, and this is the barrier.
Um, and every technology should overcome this barrier, not by advertising.
Yeah.
It by value and understandable value for the teacher.
Shannon: And speaking of that, you have also created something that I think is, uh, top of the industry as well.
I have not seen this at to any level with anybody else, but you have teach, you have created an educator guide that is.
Quite frankly, phenomenal.
and I remember a little while ago you asked me, you guys were like, Hey, what's something you know?
And I was like, basically the teachers just need to know if this is the skill I need, how does it fit into, you know, my state standards and where can I find it?
And you guys did that.
So could you kind of tell everybody a little bit about your educator guide?
Dmitry: Thank you so much, Helen, for bringing this up and, and you started this fire, you know, you, you started this understanding.
Basically we just wanted to make a new catho and to make a new catho to make a good one.
We talked to teachers and they said, okay, we don't get anything.
We don't get an idea about what is your vr, funny stuff there.
And we thought that it's not about vr.
We need a guide.
Like manual, not manual, but something speaking, spoken with the words of teachers, uh, to them.
And we created a vr, uh, teachers guidebook or handbook.
So it includes, professions.
That we match with, uh, our modules, helping teachers understand what, uh, national standard, what OSHA regulation is, the connection between profession and the VR module.
So it's not the catalog about GW Pro or it's not the catalog about the funny VR modules, but it's the.
Guide for Educator about how to create the lesson and use VR at its most, how to use VR wisely very precisely and explain everything around it to the students so they, they don't get lost.
They understand what they they're doing, and they understand the outcomes.
Uh, everything that goes after.
So it's not just a fun time, but it is training process, very interesting and engaging, and the ability to understand the profession in the end comes not only with this,
it comes also with the understanding of their future, future salaries, the places they can go with this profession, and, uh, things they can do with this profession.
So I think this is a very helpful book.
We're providing this to every educator that is connecting to us and asking for any demo licenses or any consultancy support, anything.
So you have, feel free to tell everyone about it.
Shannon: That's another, uh, point I'd like to highlight in a quick little plug that anytime I have anybody that's talking anything, ct, I'm like, Hey guys, I got this group.
They're interested.
they don't, they.
You know everything about it, but they're, they're really interested and blah, blah, blah.
And I come to you guys, they're like, no problem.
How many, you know, trials do you need and for how long?
And you guys always come through, you support every single time I make a request, uh, which is huge.
So to put that out there, if anybody does actually want to.
Truly try before you buy.
Uh, GW Pro is not afraid to let that happen.
And I think it's a testament to you guys that you have such confidence and you believe in your software so much that you're willing to let people do that because you know, you know what, Hey, we're gonna let 'em try it.
And, inevitably they're going to be as won over as we hope they are.
So props on that.
Um, and back to the guide.
It is, it's awesome.
You're exactly right.
You said the, the keywords that most people don't tend to do in this industry, and by that I mean ed tech.
You talk to educators, you found out what terminology they used.
You actually said, Hey, what would make our product more helpful?
And.
You created what they said.
You didn't take their spin, you didn't take what they said and put your spin on it or whatever.
And so as an educator to be able to have this software, which has all these modules, all these features, everything, and be so overwhelmed and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, like Angels, you know, singing, there's this guy tells me what I wanna, yeah.
I nailed that the way.
Um,
Dmitry: Yeah.
you.
Shannon: here, I can literally just flip to this page.
It tells me exactly what it is, exactly what it's going to cover and how I can use it.
And I think that because.
We know also not only the time that it takes to learn the new technology, but then to plan with it is just overwhelming for already overwhelmed educators.
So you've literally taken all that work off of their plate and, and put it onto yours.
And so, um, definitely props for that.
Dmitry: We are going to add more to that.
I mean, we're going to add the experience of understanding the profession before starting practical training for the students.
So in the future when you have educational license, you'll be provided with more quizzes, with some professional, professional outline, how to choose it.
Maybe you like this, maybe you like that.
So you will be starting in vr, not choosing modules, but like standing among the professionals that are inviting you if you want to, to their world, to their job, to their, all the things they're doing.
And I think this journey is, is very close to.
I believe it's closer to the way that students do at CD lessons.
Shannon: Absolutely.
And it's now, uh, applicable to basically any grade because especially when we're talking CTE, everybody always talks about, you know, oh, in high school and, and, you know, exposure to the job, blah, blah, blah, which is a hundred percent correct.
However.
We have to start in elementary school and expose students to these career pathways.
'cause by the time they're in high school, they've already chosen a pathway or worse off, had that pathway chosen for
them
So the be the ability to expose them to all these different careers.
Like I said, even in elementary school, it is never too young to start talking about these things and showing them different opportunities.
And so now you're able to do that with all the different functionality that you guys have added.
Dmitry: Yeah.
This is, I don't have anything to add here because students want to know this.
They want to know.
For example, the other professions, they want to see the world, how they say they want to see the world of professions.
And everyone now understands that the prof, the blue collar professions, they are not bad.
They're, they're becoming prestigious, high paid jobs that providing you great future, great income, and very stable.
everyone needs good plumbers, carpenters.
They're very different, but this is the thing that would no one ever will take from you.
This is you, your profession, and yeah, it's great tool to have when you're young, because when you're young you want to have options is it.
The I think
Shannon: Exactly.
I don't, nobody likes to be pigeonholed anything.
And you know, there were so many different careers that especially, you know, when you're looking at either underserved populations,
minorities, women, whatever, that were never even, you know, it presented to me and people bring, we all do it, but people bring their own.
You know, biases and things like that into their professions and what they do.
And you know, I always try to be cognizant of it, but there might've been times I'm sure where I inadvertently did that as well.
And so if I know a student, like say myself struggles at math and still cries at fractions, I'm probably not gonna suggest a, you know, math.
Base career to them.
And that's wrong because maybe that's something that I, you know, that they would love to do and they could work at it.
But if they know in the beginning at a early age what those actual skills require.
Then they can focus on developing those.
And that's what I think is fan fantastic about GW Pro is it's not just, here's exposure to this.
It's the actual minute details of what those skills take and how the student is going to need to develop to be successful for that career.
And so speaking of this wonderful love fest that we're having on GW Pro, well earned.
You guys have been working incredibly hard to support a project, uh, I've also been super proud of, and that has been developing beautifully here in Kentucky.
And that is the Kentucky Virtual Academy.
Shout out to big, shout out to Betsy and Nathan.
Big, big time all stars they are.
So to catch listeners up, they actually have 250.
Pico four Ultra headsets, and they are a 100% public school system here in Kentucky and also 100% remote.
So they are all virtual.
They come from all across the entire Commonwealth.
So students are literally hundreds of miles apart and yet.
With all of us as a team, we're developing a way so that every student can have their device and their headset and be successful, and so GW Pro has been a huge part of that.
So can you tell us a little bit about how that's going and what you guys are actually doing?
Dmitry: we are very happy to be invited to this project and.
This project was for me, uh, as a final piece of a puzzle in the, the great puzzle of teachers.
So how do they use it?
You go when you said all students, all remote and sometimes they need to meet.
Yeah.
I thought, okay, it should fit, but how, how we would handle all of this and.
was a wonderful journey because the, the first thing was of course, provide licenses and that the license should work offline.
For example, for the devices that go to some remote students, they don't want to connect to their wifi or anything, and also the devices should connect and create multiple.
For the locations that are interested in the multiplayer.
For example, teacher wants to join everyone to connect everyone in the same virtual classroom and show them something they've been doing in a single player.
And yeah, that was awesome.
That worked pretty well.
And the, great feature of this project is the scalability of it.
You started with not very big number of licenses, but we're scaling to hundreds and this is very important because all these hundreds, they work individually.
they don't provide big load on server.
They work okay with multiplier, so it works well and it doesn't break any training process for the teacher.
So we're bringing this experience to remote offline.
Like any type of student.
And, uh, the teachers can start it very easily in the classroom and create multiplier inside the headset without additional devices, laptops, account, anything.
And, and they're also tracking the students when, when you are distributing all this headsets.
So teachers ask as I remember, so how do we know if they pass anything like.
They're playing in their games in vr.
They're having fun.
But what about the lessons?
What about homework?
And we have this exam and certification, beautiful certificate about VR passing something.
Uh, so you pass the VR training in exam mode.
And, uh, students used it and they sent, uh, these, uh, certificates to the, to their teachers showing that they passed the exam in this module.
And they didn't make any mistake there because it's exam.
Uh, and yeah, it was a very very simple control point for the teachers.
Well, I really love this project.
I, I just think it should expand.
Just expanding, having more fun.
Yeah.
And, and do you remember this last meeting with teachers and your colleagues that started multiplayer and that was what we connected everyone, and they said, ah, now I got it.
And I, I, I understood that, how to expand this.
We just need to get them into the headset once and they understand.
Just give us five minutes.
So I, I'm feeling like I'm selling something like in nineties coming to you and let me vacuum your floor.
I show you.
Shannon: Told you
Dmitry: Yeah.
Sometimes it feels
this
but I love this aha moment from the teachers because teachers are always skeptical.
All projects of teachers are skeptical.
They're saying, all right guys, you don't know.
We know.
Can you surprise us?
Oh, you have two minutes.
And that's it.
They, they're much more tougher than any investor.
Shannon: right
Dmitry: You need very precise speech for the teacher, because teacher will not be listening much.
And yeah, so this was.
Aha moment when we got them into the software altogether and saying, this is your classroom on the construction side.
They said, ah, I got it.
Loved it.
Shannon: And I love that you guys got to be there for that moment and experience that.
'cause a lot of times, you know, on, on the software development side, you don't get to actually really experience those moments and you know, because it's just not the nature of typically how it works.
And so you got to see it.
And not only that, which I think is invaluable.
It's not like we're, we've got rose colored glasses on or anything.
You guys were a part of that meeting you saw.
you know, the issues firsthand that educators face every day.
You know, there's so many things going on and something that might be simple for you guys isn't actually simple for them.
So, like, you know, and, and.
Betsy and I have even talked about this.
One of the things that you guys had said was, well, just make sure that they're all, you know, the, the modules are all downloaded before a meeting.
Well, in that situation, you know, you, for you guys, you think, oh,
right?
Yeah.
like, oh, put the headset on, click download.
For you guys, you're thinking, no big problem.
But for them, it's okay.
They actually had to go to where the headsets were.
They had to get 'em connected to the right internet, which at that building was different than at another building.
So even though they may be connected at one place, they didn't connect it at the other one.
So now that's different.
And then they have to actually do all these things.
And when they're like, well, why weren't they downloaded?
Then you actually saw, oh, this is what they actually have to go through.
And I think it gave you invaluable information about what.
Where the current state is, because I've been screaming in, you know, into the void for, for years now about this.
But you actually got to see it.
And, and, and as much as I'd love everybody, I think when the industry people, when I tell them what the issues are, I know most people say they believe me, but I think deep down they're like, yeah, right.
And so like, it's like, look, this isn't just coming from Shannon.
This is, we're seeing this, these are the challenges that they're dealing with.
And they're not
They seem like they are on the surface, but there huge that need to be respected and understood if you want this to be successful, and, and so I think that what the virtual Academy is doing.
Unbelievably well and better than anybody is creating that roadmap because we're walking before we run.
That's absolutely the roadmap.
We're giving away our secret sauce, but it it, it needs to be out there.
And so now that GW Pro has come in, it's like, yep, you guys, you don't have to worry about all those other things 'cause they're done and
now they can focus on the software and you guys can support them with your software and not the day-to-day use of actually how to use headset.
Dmitry: Absolutely.
I think the key word here is AC Academy Virtual Academy.
It's very important.
We need some, some hero, some power teachers always.
And we, we always were thinking that hardware providers will do it for us, but they never did.
Hardware providers are setting hardware.
That's it.
That's absolutely okay.
They're helping us in shipments and provisioning, deployment and everything.
But when it comes to software training, onboarding, yeah, it is totally different.
Even.
It's different people that we meet there.
So different people receive the hardware, but different people will be using it.
And you are absolutely right.
This, this goes two ways.
So we send onboarding and health consultancy for the academy to.
Bring it to the teachers.
And, uh, when you say these things that are happening in the classroom, I have my own, uh, checklists that I, that I'm bringing to my team.
And, you know, they're saying, oh, that's, that's not important.
I said, this is important.
And, uh, the good example of that is a funny story about one button from since the beginning of the creation of this software.
I said, so guys, you, you may hate me, but there will be one button
Shannon: Yeah
Dmitry: and all of my team guys in development that gamers.
They don't have one button experience.
They have like 20 button pedals, something else, and the chair, active, interactive, uh, running pad, anything experience.
And until now I'm fighting that.
So there will be one button experience because with one button, even the teachers sometimes struggle with one button.
I don't want to say anything rude about it, but the, but if you're a teacher, you don't have time to get all these buttons.
You just need something very simple and yeah, we, uh, yeah, it'll, it'll be all one button experience for one more year.
Shannon: And major props for you for that understanding, because again, I'm sure multiple people told you no, blah, blah, blah, this,
that, and the other, and it absolutely was dead on because you're, it is totally different types of situations, type of different things.
And one button genius.
Um, because it, it, it, I've seen first hand.
The, even when you, like, you tell 'em, like, and you're watching them and, and you're saying, okay, you're squeezing the trigger, right?
And you're watching them squeeze the grip button and they're like, yep, that's what I'm doing.
And you're like, well, I'm watching you and you're not, and all that goes into it.
Dmitry: This time I'm thinking about hardware, uh, creator that made this another button.
And I just want to take something to get this button out so no one could have it.
Just one button on the controller.
Yeah, you're you're totally right.
That's squeezing the wrong button.
Shannon: And you know, And you gotta do that in a way too, because I get it.
Uh, but you gotta do that in a way that you're.
Not like insulting them, you know, not putting them on the defensive, like, oh, you know, because that can happen too.
And now you've lost them, you know, simply for, for trying to, you know, tell them what they were doing incorrectly and, and just support them.
And, you know, some people get defensive and, and so you always gotta be cognizant of that.
So if you're an educator who's listening, please understand that we are not, trying to make you feel inadequate in any way.
We're just trying to ensure that you know what you're doing.
Dmitry: I think that the teachers are very fragile and professionals because there are tons of things they're doing and.
We need to respect their time and their experience.
and when you are a teacher for many years, it's very hard to attend someone's lesson.
Yeah.
It's hard 'cause you are teaching, you are not a student now.
And when random people like GW Pro, coming with their software, maybe it's beautiful.
Maybe it's wonderful.
it doesn't matter.
But they're trying to bring a lesson into your life and I think we need to do it with much respect, with the help of people that understand like you do, like totally understand them.
I saw the how, the way you are talking to them.
I saw you conducting this meetings.
I was just, I was just excited about it.
I kept silent.
Everything was very, very gentle, very soft for them because they just came from the lesson and we don't want to make another lesson for them.
We need bring them, helping their lessons.
Very understandable, very simple to use.
Shannon: Exactly, because I mean, let's face it, we are in the business of teaching people and then those skills and things that, all those tools and everything that we use.
As the educators.
We also then need them applied to us as learners too, because we're educators and we're always still learners.
And I always used to joke around that, everything that we say, like when you're learning to be a teacher and this, that, and the other, and they're always like, okay, now we know that, you know, Carol, you know, uh, circle reading doesn't work.
Like where you have one kid read the first paragraph, the second kid read the second paragraph, blah, blah, blah.
Well, what's the first thing we do at a professional development session?
They pick people to read up a different paragraph.
Then it's like, okay, we know sit and get for the longest.
You know, just the whole time doesn't work.
Well, what do we do at professional development sessions?
We sit and listen to somebody talk for eight hours and it's like we don't, you know, we don't practice what we preach and, and so it's no wonder that, you know, professional development,
especially for educators, gets, it's boring and nobody, no offense to people, but they don't tend to like it and they don't learn anything 'cause we're not even following our own advice.
Dmitry: Yeah.
I, I think they do in some ways.
they learn something.
Yeah.
This is important part of the life of a teacher, and so they got.
Additional benefits from it is very important to motivate, to grow, to get them out of the classroom because, you know, there are some, uh, there were
some times when people, when teachers were left without professional development for many years and, uh, it just brought to simplification of training.
It wasn't a good sign.
So we need to take teacher regularly.
Take the teacher from, Natural environment and put in something new to refresh, to give more ideas.
Because the children, they'll sense the new ideas and they sense if you, those ideas, they really sense it.
Shannon: That they do and they're not shy about telling you.
There's also another thing, so I'm not gonna give too much away on it, but we've been talking about a very interesting and unique development, um, that potentially with GW Pro, uh, soft Girls.
Like I said, I'm not gonna give anything away.
Uh, but where do you see the future of GW Pro and what can be some exciting things that we can expect to, to see you guys as you continue to de develop and, and just listen to your customers?
Dmitry: Yeah.
First of all, The closest future is new modules in the catalog.
I mean, new modules, very well aligned with ct, much more than other modules that we did before.
We'll also bring the additional content for the teachers, and it's in, in the short range.
In the long range.
It, it is the expansion of all of the modules to bring also soft skills.
Or CT training.
And what I mean by that is bringing the communicational skills, HR skills inside, uh, the PO practical modules that we have now.
So people will be interacting, role playing with AI to get the work per the work permit to start the.
Day of the job, uh, to communicate with our colleagues correctly and to withstand the incorrect behavior of some colleagues.
We have some incorrect behavior on practical level.
I mean, you say you're staying and the sparks are going on your head.
You need to stop this.
You know the string, it's working at height.
Uh, in addition to that, you can talk, you have a radio on your chest.
You have other colleagues to invite to say, it's incorrect, so let's stop him.
Let's make a signal or something.
Uh, and, uh, these are soft skills communications that are 50% as important as practical skills.
As we do all talks with city professionals and with, uh, training professionals all around the United States and other countries, so they talk.
This is very important.
We, we now even separate this as additional course for soft skills communication.
Because people started to talk less.
They're sitting in front of their laptops, they don't wanna contact other people maybe.
And, uh, the communication very often sucks and it creates problems.
So, yeah, I think that we'll be bringing this into more in training with the help of course, teachers to find the, the problems that go with bad communication and.
Shannon: And that, that's absolutely kinda huge and groundbreaking.
So if, if anybody's not fully grasping what they're doing, they're actually.
Taking every skill that's required to prepare these students for these jobs because so often we focus on one part of it, like they need to be a good welder.
They need to be able to weld and have great welds and, and practical, and, and, and that's absolutely important.
However, if they can't communicate and they either can't interview well or they can't communicate their, their needs, their expectations.
Ask questions, things like that when they don't understand, and then that is just as important.
And we've all seen, especially post COVID, the, the lack of soft skills or the struggle that younger, uh, students, and I say younger because you know, I'm 43, uh, but that, you know.
These students are are having, and you know, we see examples every day where they don't know how to go walk into a bank and open up a checking account.
They still have their parent make their doctor's appointments.
Like all these things, whether it's the texting generation, whatever you wanna say it is, we need to focus on soft skills again, and not just general soft skills, but actual workplace.
Focus, soft skills, come on.
That's like the butter right there, as I like to say, forget about it.
Like, that's so huge and I'm so excited about that.
So I can't wait to, to, to be a part of that continual development.
And as, as we're kind of, you know, bringing it in here and, and.
Headed towards the end of our fantastic follow-up conversation.
I'm excited about, you know, the work that we're getting to do together, the, the big push that, that we're doing.
So what are some things that, you know, people can either, like I said, expect to see from GW Pro and from Putman Consulting, if they're wanting to be a part of this, what would be the suggestion that you give for them?
For the, the first step?
Somebody that has never.
Used VR has never heard of GW Pro, what would you suggest that they do?
Dmitry: Yeah.
You know this phrase, we need to talk, just, just start talking.
It's, it's soft skills really.
Yeah.
This is the soft skill that teachers should also get just to ask for a new technology.
From the guys that already doing that, they just call us.
Just tell us so we have a problem here.
We will be not selling you the, this time we'll be consulting.
So we'll be saying, these guys doing this way, these guys are doing this way.
They have those students, they have these problems.
But yeah, first thing is let's talk, let's understand each other and, uh, we'll find the ways to help.
And maybe it's not being about some of our modules, maybe it's about something else, but it's technology.
I think we know a little bit about it so we can bring our best help for this.
Yeah, just start and we'll provide everything.
Consultancy materials, demo licenses, so you have fun.
We'll not be counting every, here, we'll be counting the success or aha moments from the teachers.
Shannon: I love that.
Perfectly said, and I can't, kind of express enough how.
Grateful I am for your guys' support for everything.
Like I said, anything I've ever come to you guys asked about, you have met the moment and you've been right there and you're willing to share and give.
And even if in the end it didn't lead to a sale, that's never been anything that's even been discussed with you guys.
Um, so when I constantly preach about.
Being in this business and doing these things for the right reasons.
You guys, a thousand percent back that up more than than anybody I think I've ever seen.
And so thank you for that.
Thank you for supporting these educators and these students who need it.
And um, I, I love what you said, even though when you said we need to talk, even though it wasn't even about me, my stomach still dropped.
Um, but this a good way.
So for the, the, we need to talk.
You're absolutely right.
Just.
Reach out and ask, like, you know, we're here, we're happy to help, we chat with anybody.
And, you know exactly right.
Don't be afraid to, to just find out and, you know, everybody learns every day and, and not knowing something is not a reason to, to, to prevent somebody from asking.
So thank
Dmitry: Another reason to be shy.
Yeah.
Thank you Shannon.
Yeah, you, you totally make me totally red because Yeah.
So my, our pleasure is to give you everything that we have.
Yeah.
This, this is the big fun job that we're doing.
And I hope this is a big, this will provide big impact on some, on some lives in a good way.
I mean, profession, future and everything.
Yeah.
Shannon: I've already seen it and I know it has, so you, you guys absolutely are.
And so keep up the great work.
Um, you know, we got some, some big plans here in Kentucky.
Hopefully we can kind of to, to see those through.
And, um, you know, we've already obviously been doing amazing work and we've got some great plans for the future that we're hopefully developing and, uh, get to see those come to fruition.
And, um.
I don't think that, uh, you thought for a second that you would get away from the closing countdown because even as a repeat guest, I'm sorry.
It, it's a mandatory and you're not getting away, so,
Dmitry: Ready.
Ready?
Absolutely ready?
Afraid but ready.
Shannon: think this one's gonna be really fun.
And so, I don't know if you are a baseball fan at all American baseball, but um, in baseball they have what is called a walkup song.
You really see it in the youth, they really get into it.
So basically when it's your turn to go up into the batter's box, you get, you pick a song that represents you and your mood and how you wanna play.
For me in softball I picked, um, one that was, here comes the money.
Uh, and that's also a wrestling song.
And it money, money, money, money, money, money, money.
'cause I was money and Exactly.
Um, and so I had my little swagger.
So if you had to pick your three walkup songs,
Dmitry: Three songs.
Shannon: Yes.
You get three.
Because it could be, because it can depend on your mood too.
You know, sometimes you're, you've got more of a quiet confidence.
Sometimes you're in your face confident.
Uh, other times it's just a, a song you wanna jam to and put you in a good mood.
Dmitry: Today, today, today, it was like, one song is from today's life and, uh, suddenly it came to me when I was playing with my kids.
know this, uh, queen song when live version, when Freddie Mercury saying, and everyone,
Hey, this is like, yeah, this is like what we do.
Literally, yeah, we are making something
Shannon: Mm-hmm.
Dmitry: sending to the crowd, and then there is coming back the same stuff from the crowd.
This is so important.
Shannon: I, love that.
Dmitry: Making like
Shannon: Mm-hmm.
Dmitry: ing, and maybe they silent,
Shannon: No, I love that.
That's so unique.
Dmitry: this is like a metaphor, of what we're doing.
And the other songs, I don't know, I have many wonderful songs in my playlists and each, some of them are very energetic and I don't want to bore you for what.
It's like, you know, classical heavy metal songs, for example, chemical Wedding.
They're I terrible names in the songs that they're so, they're so powerful.
They're so like rolling.
They're rolling.
It's rolling Stones.
Shannon: Right.
I get you.
No, I love that and not what I would expect from you.
See, that's the point of the closing countdown too, because you're always so,
you know, uh, so.
Happy and calm and chill and relax it like I should have figured there was a heavy metal type of a guy hiding under there, but I absolutely love it.
Well, honestly, Dmitri, this has been fantastic as always.
I always love chatting with you and I, uh.
I couldn't be more excited for everything that's happening.
And I just wanna, like I said, give you guys your absolute well-deserved, uh, roses and props because you've earned it.
And, um, again, I'll include links to GW Pro, to your LinkedIns, our, my LinkedIn, and, and, um, anybody please do not hesitate to
reach out and get started because GW Pro and Putman Consulting are here to support you and, um, we couldn't be more excited to do so.
So, Dmitri, thank you so much.
Dmitry: Thank you so much, Shannon.
It was a pleasure.
As always,