Lunch with the Clydesdale with Special Guest Jeffrey Birchfield | Top 5 Tuesday (TV Shows)

We take our lunch to hang out together have fun and talk about anything and everything.  Today we discuss The Chicago Bears have their man in Ben Johnson, Ricky Garard Rumors of going to PRVN are made official and I Hate it! and we do our top 5 TV Shows of all time with Special Guest Jeffrey Birchfield.

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What's going on, everybody?

Welcome to Lunch with the Clydesdale.

I'm so pumped, so honored,

so jazzed up to have with

me the one and only,

he goes by a lot of names, Jay Birch,

Papa Birch, actor, judge, teacher,

Jeffrey Birchfield.

So with me in the house, what's going on,

man?

Oh, nothing much, man.

It's my pleasure.

Glad to be here.

Yeah,

so we're going to do Top Five Tuesday

today.

Today is television shows of all time.

We're going to get in that

into a little bit.

Kenneth DeLapp says El Jefe.

So we'll get into that in a little bit.

We're going to talk about

some of the news in the space today.

But I want to get to know

you a little bit better.

I know you're a retired teacher.

You just retired within the calendar,

within the year.

How's that first year off going for you?

Uh, so far so good.

It's, um, my summer was spent, um,

watching my grandson for the,

for the most part, he's, um, uh,

nonverbal autistic.

He's nine years old.

So, uh, we had a,

had a lot going on this summer, but it's,

it's moving right along.

I'm,

had a million projects around our,

we live in a house.

It's a little over a hundred years old.

And so I've had trees that

have fallen down that I've needed to cut.

I've had windows replaced.

And so the,

the retirement while not teaching,

I'm still as busy, busy as ever.

And you,

you moved to help take care of

your grandson.

I did.

We already had a house in Hamilton, Texas,

which is a small agrarian

community in Central Texas,

about a little less than

twenty seven hundred people, I guess.

And we were living in

Pflugerville outside of Austin,

which is a city or rural or

not rural suburban city of

about sixty thousand.

Okay.

So then at your new place, you have a shed,

a tent.

What do we call the workout space?

And so that's Camp Pay Him.

And so as you can see,

we've got Pay Him Stuff On.

I owe everything that I am

as far as like athletic-wise stuff.

as far as the last few years

or several years since

twenty nineteen to Josh Bridges.

So just a little shout out to him.

But I've built me a workout

space in my backyard using, you know,

one of those standard little tent things.

And then I've just put all

my equipment out there and

that's where I get after it.

So a while back, gosh,

probably a couple years,

I was interviewing Cooper Marsh,

and you were in the chat,

and he talked about how you

would come to these train with Josh's,

or are they called Pay the Man?

They're Pay Him Camps is

what they're called.

And you would come,

and you got to be really

friendly with Josh and

Cooper and all those guys.

What was that experience like?

It was, I mean...

you couldn't find a more

personable and helpful group of guys.

I mean,

it was a fairly intimate situation.

I mean,

there's usually about twenty five

to twenty seven people that are there.

And the ones that the one

that I attended was in San

Diego at Josh's house in

the garage where he started

all of his videoing and

everything of his workouts.

And so it was it was kind of

iconic just to go work out there.

But

We also went to Cuape,

which is a mountain there

in San Diego where Josh

used to run and do a lot of training.

And so we got that

opportunity to go and kind

of do that with him and

have some conversation.

And so it was really an

awesome experience.

And, you know, the funny thing is Cooper,

I started doing –

pay him stuff for following

Josh's programming around

twenty eighteen.

But I was also kind of doing

some of his supplement

stuff with X Endurance.

Well,

Cooper at the time worked for X

Endurance and challenged me

to do Karen after taking

one of their products.

And that's kind of how me

and Cooper got acquainted.

And it's funny,

I was I was supposed to do Karen and then

I'd wait a week and do it

again to retest it.

Well,

it seemed like my programming started

kind of following the

schedule of how to build up

to a better Karen.

And so I asked people, I said,

do you like Josh or something?

And yeah, it just so happened that he did.

And things just worked out.

We've been,

I would say that we've been

friends for a while now.

And then you've also,

you also know Bethany

Flores when she lived in Austin,

I'm assuming.

Yeah.

First,

first CrossFit athlete I ever worked

with as far as like going

and working out with.

And so I hear a lot of

stories about people who go

to CrossFit for their first time and,

you know, they may be scared that,

you know, this or that will,

imagine going to a Saturday

meetup where it's just kind of everybody,

it's not a formal class,

and Bethany is the one

that's actually doing the

workout and programming the

workout for you to do,

and so it's a little scary, but I mean,

she kept, you know,

she made us feel right at home,

and I mean, it was awesome,

and so I went several more times,

and that's, that kind of got me

into the box and actually a

little more into the

methodology than what I'd

been in previous times.

Yeah.

Going to Christie O'Connell's gym.

Uh,

it was crazy because there's big events

here in Columbus,

like the Arnold fitness expo.

And a lot of the CrossFit

athletes would drop in and

then they would drop into

her gym because they knew her.

And so it w you'd walk in on

it on a day and there's

just Madaris warming up or there's,

you know, and you're just like,

holy crap.

Um,

I gotta work out in front of these people,

but they're just normal

people at the end of the day.

Right.

Well, that's really cool.

And I want to thank you so

much for taking time out,

jumping on the show with me.

Wow, that's crazy.

Corey.

First, Kenneth says,

I heard that the first rule

of pay him camp is that you

don't talk about pay him camp.

Yeah.

Well,

I didn't tell you everything that

happens at pay him camp.

Yeah.

I'm sure you're sworn to secrecy.

Corey, sorry I'm late.

It's snowing its ass off down here.

Yeah, man, I saw that.

Holy cow.

Yeah,

I just saw a boat post of Moss that

does uplift.

Yep.

And he's like doing

thrusters or something in the snow.

And he lives up in Slidell,

just north of New Orleans.

yeah I lived in tallahassee

florida for four years it

snowed one time there and

it shut the city down like

just yeah there's not a

plow in sight you know so

it just shut everything

down yeah mark lost that

too I was trying to think

of yeah mark's a great guy

mark's a great guy um I

think I think corey just

sent me pictures of the snow in louisiana

Holy moly.

I don't know.

Yeah.

That is, that's crazy, man.

And he lives over in Gonzalez, which is,

is still kind of in Southern Louisiana.

So that's a good one.

This is a street view.

Oh yeah.

I heard that they shut down high tin,

which is the main highway

going across the Southern

part of Louisiana.

Yeah.

Yeah, went right through Tallahassee.

Yeah.

That's how we would get over

to New Orleans is I-ten.

Crazy, but so, wow.

Well, stay warm, man.

It is just bitterly cold here.

The feels like temperature

is like negative ten right now.

Just had to take my wife to

PT this morning,

and warming up the car took a long time.

Oh, man, I bet.

So she has doctor's

appointment follow-up

tomorrow and another PT on Thursday.

So hopefully it starts to

warm up a little bit.

But she really needs to get

those staples out tomorrow.

So hopefully we can get there.

Yeah, Scott,

I don't know how y'all live up there.

Yeah, I mean, it's my own fault.

I moved to Florida.

I lived there for four years.

And it was so brutally hot down there,

I couldn't take it.

So, you know,

it's either you're cooped up

in the summer down there or

you're cooped up in the winter.

Yeah.

True enough.

Well,

let's hit some news bites real quick

and then we'll get into our top five.

The rumors are true.

Ricky Gerard is now a proven athlete.

It was announced by proven yesterday.

I hate it.

I hate it with every piece

of fabric in my being.

I've said this a million

times on this show.

I'm friends with Justin Kotler.

And I think what the chance

that Justin took with him

coming off the drug

suspension and his

performance has been elite

ever since he's been with Justin.

The only times he didn't do

well is when he got hurt.

So the reason for the move

just doesn't make any sense to me.

And it, I, I'm, I am loyal to a fault.

So that, that like just kills me.

So do you think his loyalty

lies now more with the fact

that he's with somebody

who's from Australia who has been a,

you know,

a CrossFit champion for seven

times rather than keeping

his loyalty with the guy

that actually took a chance on him?

Uh,

that's what the way it looks on the

outside.

Doesn't it?

Yeah.

You know, it's funny.

I knew a kid in high school one time.

Sorry to kind of take away from that,

but not to take away from

it because it has to do with loyalty.

And I knew a kid that had

made a commitment to a

college coming out of high school.

And because of whatever reason,

his dad had gone to this

other university.

He just dropped that one

university who he had

already committed to and

went to the university.

to the father's university, which I, to me,

I'm like,

if you give your word to go somewhere.

And of course this was all

before NIL and all that kind of stuff.

Then you go where you're supposed to,

you go where you say you're going to go.

Yeah, I agree.

And I don't even know if people know this.

I think like Justin took on

Benny Gerard as a coach,

in addition to Ricky as an athlete.

So like they did,

they did a lot for that family.

Justin traveled to Australia

to be with him during Tori

and did all that kind of stuff.

And then just because your

new training partners are

proven now you've yeah,

but it is what it is.

I mean, that's his,

his decision and that's his

road road to go down.

I am definitely not a fan at

this point um but I'm sure

he'll have others and he

doesn't really care what I

think at the end of the day

well same I mean so uh last

night we had a national championship game

Ohio State with the victory.

Two different times during that game,

I was ready to go to bed.

And as I went to go up the steps,

Notre Dame scored.

And I was like, oh, crap.

Now I can't go to bed.

They made it a little bit

closer at the end.

But at the end of the day,

Ohio State was just way too much.

Now I've got to live in a

town with the national championship team.

And that's what I've got to

hear about for the next

three hundred and sixty five days.

And I'm sure on cloud nine,

Judy Reed is a huge Buckeye fan.

So I'm sure she's super happy.

Amy,

my cohost on the round table will be

ecstatic as she is a graduate of OSU.

Um, but yeah,

that's what I'll have to live

with for the next year.

And, uh, there it is.

Penn state just need to play better in the,

in the final four.

I'm wearing the burnt orange,

even though it says good dudes, I can,

UT needed to play just – or

University of Texas needed

to play just a little bit better.

Maybe we got there,

but Ohio put a shellacking on us.

What's cool to me is over

the weekend with the NFL

games and that game,

I was four and one on outright winners,

and with the line, I was three and two.

So not a bad record for the weekend.

I didn't place a bet on any of them.

Just picked them on the show

to see how I do.

But yeah,

I'll take four and one and three

and two over the weekend on my picks.

Yeah.

It would be nice if I had

some money with that, but no.

And then the biggest news in

my household was the Chicago Bears-

uncharacteristically got

aggressive and went after

the coach that they wanted

as the new head coach laid

down the money and

hopefully this is a sign of

change as ben johnson is

was named the new head

coach of the chicago bears

uh he's in chicago today

signing a contract and uh

it looks like dennis allen

will be his defensive

coordinator which excites me a lot

So he has an experienced

defensive coordinator to

come with him since this is

his first foray into head coaching.

But that made me extremely

happy yesterday.

And I think it's the start

of Caleb Williams'

ascension into a much better quarterback.

I don't know a lot about him.

I mean, I know that, you know,

with Detroit going so far

in the playoffs this year,

he must have a lot to offer.

Yeah.

uh we're just glad dennis

allen has gone from nola

well you have to admit

before he was the head

coach he was a really good

defensive coordinator we

didn't hire miss head coach

we're bringing him in as

defensive coordinator so

we're we're cool with that

now go ahead sorry jay rich go ahead

Oh, I forgot what I was going to say.

It's all right.

Now Corey's just trying to pick a fight.

Kale Williams is, was,

and will be highly overrated.

We may not be friends anymore now.

Oh, I remember what I was going to say.

As far as like Detroit goes, of course,

their head coach, Dan Campbell,

he grew up not but about, oh,

here in, in Hamilton.

So even though I'm a Dallas heart,

you know,

through and through kind of fan

because Dan played for the

Cowboys and because he's a

Texan had to root for Detroit this year.

So.

I wanted them to win this

year because they've never

been to the Superbowl.

I just wanted somebody new.

So, yeah, that was,

that was not what I was

looking for the other night when they,

when they lost.

So.

Last thing I'm going to say,

and we're going to talk

about this much more on the

Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.

If you did not see the Rich

Froning podcast yesterday,

they talk about the Mayhem Classic a lot.

And in there, there's kind of a leak,

and it's been out on Dense

Updates and Barbell Spin

and Hiller and everybody else,

but that there could be a

last chance qualifier this year.

there's like one spot left on both sides,

the men and the women,

and that that will go to a

last chance qualifier.

Carolyn has very strong

thoughts about the fact

that these camps know about

these things before the athletes do.

And so I'm going to let her

go off on Sunday night about that.

Well, and two aren't,

don't they only have twenty

male and twenty female spots

that they're going to do

for the semifinal so that's

where I'm confused I

thought it was eighteen in

person semis twelve open

twelve online I don't know

what the numbers are now to

get the last chance

qualifier so that one has

to come from one of them

so I just don't know which

one that is um yeah man I

have this dry spot in my

throat um larry young she

doesn't seem pleased about

anything going on this season.

I think it's a lot of change

and it's just hard to

understand for an athlete as to,

and it's hard to plan when

there's all these last minute changes.

And for someone who's trying

to make it back to the games,

that's really frustrating.

Uh,

but I'll let her speak for herself

because she does that very well.

So let's get into the top five.

Top five Tuesday.

Top TV shows of all time.

We'll count them down from five to one.

And then afterwards,

if you have any honorable mentions,

we'll talk about that.

And I always let the guests go first.

So these could not be sitcoms.

These could not be half-hour shows.

These were either series or miniseries.

And we'll leave it at that.

All right.

I'll start off with Jay Birch.

Let's go.

All right.

So my number five was a show

called Mind Hunters.

So I'm not for sure if

you're familiar with it,

but it was a show that... What's that?

My wife would probably have

that in her top five.

And so it wasn't very long lasting,

but it took a realistic

look at how the...

profiling and the FBI kind

of started looking at

serial killers and stuff like that.

I, and me personally,

I thought the acting was great.

I mean, it wasn't real slow, you know,

and it's, and it's development of story.

And I mean,

I thought it was a really good show.

Um, and that it takes place in Pittsburgh,

right?

Yeah, I believe so.

Yeah.

See, we,

we both grew up just North of Pittsburgh,

so that she probably has an

affinity for it with that

in addition to it.

So,

uh kenneth says uh first

season was great second

season was good you know a

lot of the shows that I had

in my mind that I did not

put on my list I loved like

the beginning of and it at

some point jumped the shark

and that ruined it for me

like designated survivor is

a great example

Season one into two was amazing,

but season three was so bad.

It left a horrible taste in

my mouth and would have removed it.

And I hope that's not on your list,

but okay.

So my number five is an old

show from the eighties.

Uh, it's a show called wise guy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And what it was, was there was,

for lack of a better term,

a kid named Vinnie

Terranova who grew up in

New Jersey and was a law

enforcement officer that

they made become kind of

like a street thug.

And he built up a reputation,

even went to jail to set

himself up so that he could

go undercover and infiltrate the mob.

And didn't he have a brother?

His brother was a priest.

Okay, yeah.

Yeah,

which complicated things a little bit.

Right, yeah.

Because he couldn't even

tell his family that he was

going undercover because he

really lived this life to

make it believable when he

got pulled into the mob.

And what was,

I think it was on for like

five seasons and each

season was its own storyline.

Mm-hmm.

So you'd finish the season

and then he'd be off to like the next,

the next thing.

One of my favorite shows of all time.

And I've even watched it in

the last few years and it still holds up,

which you cannot say for every AD show.

But it still holds up today

and it's really good.

Yeah.

It's, you know, it's,

that's whenever I made my list,

I kind of looked at things that,

You know,

would I go back and rewatch them now?

And whenever I watch them,

does does the cinematography,

does the action,

is everything kind of still

hold up or does it look cheesy?

You know,

and so that's wise guys probably

the same.

same way what helps it is

it's not really an action

show it's it's a

character-driven show right

and so that helps like the

older show stand up because

you're not relying on

special effects or anything

like that there's some

shootouts and stuff that

probably could be done

better today but most for

the most part it is a

character-driven show so

one of the things you're

going to find is probably

with my list it's

somewhat in the forensic detective,

you know, murder mystery kind of vein.

And so my number four pick

is True Detective.

HBO series.

Or was there one in particular?

Season one, I really liked.

That's the Harrelson.

That's the Harrelson.

Yeah.

The one with Colin Farrell,

it was kind of slow.

I didn't really like that one.

And then this last season,

the one that was in Alaska.

Yeah.

I like that one.

Okay.

Those are weird, man.

They're really good.

But yeah,

I could see why that would make

it for some people.

But I think that like even nationally,

it's split.

Like whether you either love

it or you hate it.

But Kenneth says my top

season in all of TV is True

Detective season one.

That one was insane.

The Woody Harrelson,

Matthew McConaughey one.

Man, that was so good.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Now,

if you want to know what my other

number four picked,

it was probably more series

than really kind of like

those little vignettes.

It would have been Mad Men.

okay I never dove down the

madman path um but I've

heard it's exceptional it

was it was really good up

and up until the last few

seasons I guess after you

kind of find out that don

draper is like not don

draper anymore it gets kind

of kind of weird but okay but yeah

My number four is an Apple

TV series called Ted Lasso.

Okay.

I've watched it three times

the whole way through.

It is one of the most endearing,

character-driven shows ever.

And I've talked a lot about

the show Shrinking,

which I don't think is old

enough to put on this yet

because it hasn't stood the test of time.

But it's the same writers

from Ted Lasso to do Shrinking.

And so Ted Lasso is number four.

I'm actually surprised.

I thought it would be higher, but.

It's not.

So it falls in at number four,

Jason Sudeikis.

Amazing show.

If you have not seen it, like you,

you haven't watched it.

Oh, it's so good.

It's all about an American football,

American football coach

going to England to coach a soccer team.

Okay.

And he doesn't even know the rules,

but he's a leader of men.

Right.

So they hire them in to try to,

to get them to change things.

All right.

Yeah.

I definitely need to put that on my list.

So good.

All right.

So number three is the center for me.

Another weird one.

I know.

but it does kind of keep

with the same cause you've

got Jeff Daniels kind of

playing that same character throughout,

but, um, the,

the first season I really liked and well,

actually all the seasons I

thought flowed well in it.

I've, I've never seen it.

Um, I love Jeff Daniels.

Uh, it, it's a,

it's a murder mystery kind of thing.

It kind of, you know, it starts out and,

You know,

you think it's one person and

then he come to find out

it's somebody else.

I think it was produced by.

Who's Justin Timberlake's wife.

Okay.

That is Blake Lively.

No, no, no, it's not.

Shoot.

I know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

uh, Jessica, um, Jessica Beal.

That's it.

There we go.

Yeah.

She produced it and it does

an excellent job.

I mean,

I think she directs a little bit in

it some,

but just a well done kind of

murder mystery series in my opinion.

That's awesome.

I'll have to check it out.

Cause I love Jeff Daniels.

Yeah.

Um,

Not Alba.

Sarah.

Could be Jessica Rabbit, Corey.

There you go.

My number three is also a mob show.

Some people probably have it

higher on the list than number three.

My number three is The Sopranos.

I really...

The first couple seasons

with the mother were some

of the best TV ever on.

When the mother dies,

I think it dips a little

bit and it takes away the

psychiatrist piece of it.

But still great television.

But the first two seasons, amazing.

I'm going to have to agree with you, Scott,

on all points.

all pieces of that because I

did put the Sopranos at number two.

That was my number two pick.

Okay.

And all for the same reasons that I just,

you know, it's the only,

the worst part about that

entire series is the last scene.

Oh,

and I've watched documentaries about

David Chase and, and kind of, you know,

what he was going with there.

And, you know, basically he just,

this is how it's going to end.

And that's the way it was.

There was no, there's no backstory to it.

It's just,

that's the way you wanted to end it.

What I've heard.

It's up to you how you want it to end.

Right.

How you want it, how you interpret that.

I did see something with

Steve Perry from journey

saying that he did not want

to have a family die to his song.

I can see that.

Uh, Kenneth asks, uh,

you guys watched a prequel

movie that came out in the

last few years.

I did.

I'm not a fan.

No, I didn't.

I didn't think it was very well done.

Yeah.

You don't even get to the

characters as the Sopranos

to the last five minutes.

Right.

And I mean,

James Gandolfini son did an okay job.

in it.

But I mean, as far as the show itself,

I wasn't really impressed.

Yeah.

Nowhere near as good as the show.

So my number two, uh, needs a little, uh,

So you asked me a long time

ago when I was talking

about Taylor Sheridan,

if I liked him or the guy

who did Sons of Anarchy and the Mayans.

Okay.

My true crush in this

endeavor is... Kurt Sutter

is the other guy.

Kurt Sutter?

Well, my crush is Aaron Sorkin.

Okay.

So Aaron Sorkin did four television shows.

And he did two movies early in his career.

Now he's done some other movies since.

But his first two movies

were A Few Good Men and The

American President.

And then he did shows The Sports Night,

West Wing,

Studio Sixty on the Sunset Strip,

and Newsroom.

Those four Aaron Sorkin shows...

would be in my top five I

actually binged I start

from sports night and go to

newsroom a couple times in

my life and I do it every

couple years um so number

two I had to pick one to

represent the whole kit and

caboodle uh and so I picked

west wing it was the

longest running series

And what I loved about the

show is each show was

independent of the other,

other than like a little

string to kind of get you

from place to place.

And I work in government and

they were inept that cast.

They,

they never got anything accomplished

while he was in office.

They would run into hurdle

after hurdle after hurdle

and try to overcome them.

And it,

I felt like it was more realistic than,

than a government that

actually would get stuff

done if that makes sense

right yeah and so uh I'm

I'm going with west wing as

my number two awesome I can

I can see that yeah aaron's

working definitely good tv

Well,

my number one is a bit of a sentiment.

Jody Lynn has never seen The Sopranos,

has never seen West Wing.

I know.

She's so sheltered.

I know.

Upstate New York, man,

they just don't get into that stuff.

No,

they're all out looking at the leaves

changing.

I don't know what's going on up there.

Building cabinets.

Yeah, building cabinets,

putting in new kitchens.

Building cabins.

Yeah.

All right.

So number one.

So my number one pick is a

show from the eighties.

I think it's probably one of

the most nostalgic and one

of the movies that are

series that I probably play

more than any other.

I know it almost word for word,

as far as the script goes,

I've seen it so many times.

And that's Lonesome Dove.

Being a young man growing up on a ranch,

having that is kind of, you know,

in my past.

Also, I have a cousin who,

he's a second cousin who's

a Western author.

His name's Elmer Kelton.

He kind of, you know,

put me onto that genre of

of a Western as well, which is more, um,

kind of that true epic sense of,

of a Western.

And, um, I,

I just think it's probably one

of the best written shows ever.

So I've seen it, but I will tell you,

I have a natural distaste for Westerns.

that's fine it's because my

mom watched every western

known to man yeah like I've

seen the sackets and I've

seen lonesome dove and I've

seen um every episode of

bonanza and I've seen like

she watched all of those

gun smoke I've seen every

episode of gun smoke

So I was so inundated with

it that when I got to choose my own shows,

it was not that.

I totally understand.

Jody says, never saw that either.

And she says, I'm in Connecticut, Scott.

Upstate New York, Connecticut,

Rhode Island, Vermont,

that's all the same.

It's all where the leaves

are pretty and you get good ice cream,

right?

One of those wee little states.

Those small ones, you know.

Yeah.

I'm just kidding.

Connecticut's awesome.

I always thought I'd love to go up there.

My number one,

because my first love is crime.

Crime drama.

And you can tell by my mob stuff.

and the the the show that

did it better than anybody

else was nypd blue okay

yeah I thought I actually

thought about that one

because I love that show um

andy sipowitz uh he would

like that that show

when you see the stresses of

what being a cop every day

put on these men and the

struggles they went through

because of it.

And they depicted it in a

real sense for the first

time before that it was

dragnets and at twelves and,

and everything was rosy and,

and peachy for cops.

And,

and this was like the first time it got,

it got gritty and,

For a cop.

Right.

And what they had to do.

And that sometimes you have

to take a telephone book

and just go upside a

criminal's head and to get

them to tell you what he

needs to tell you.

Right.

Yep.

So, um, I, I actually,

I forget what's on DVD.

I forget what the police

sergeant was in there.

Kind of a big burly bald headed guy.

But I remember one scene

where he just got so frustrated,

like snapped his chair to a

million little pieces.

Yeah, it's good.

It's good.

Yeah.

I'm glad there was no mention of friends.

Kenneth,

did you not listen out the top

where we said no sitcoms?

No sitcoms allowed in this list.

This was just like hour-long dramas.

I may have to do another one

with someone else where we

actually do sitcoms.

Yeah.

But this one was just, and you know, I'm,

and I, I, I,

I should have had breaking

bad on my list.

I don't know why I forgot it completely.

Cause Kenneth had it in there.

It would not, it would not be number one,

but it would be up there.

Wise guy would probably fall off.

And I might even put it above Sopranos.

I had breaking bad as a,

as another number two, but, um,

here's the thing about

breaking bad as a chemistry teacher.

If I had one comment,

I had a million comments about,

so Mr. Birchfield,

are you like Heisenberg?

Can you make meth?

That would get old real quick.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I would,

I would move breaking bad up to

number three.

Yeah.

I did have one honorable

mention in addition to the five I had,

and I would put better call

Saul pretty close to the top five,

maybe not in the top five.

Um,

but one honorable mention is Friday

night lights.

Okay.

I thought,

I thought that television

television series was

better than the movie.

And I thought that they did

a really good job, uh, depicting, uh,

family life and uh kids

problems in high school um

I thought they did a really

good job with that just

kind of around a football

team um but it was never

really about the football

team interesting factoid

they filmed that in the

same town I was teaching at

and some of the footage of

the football field was

actually the football field

of the school where I taught and

the Dylan football team or

would it have been like

some of the others?

Uh, yeah,

I guess it would have been Dylan.

I've been one with the P the

it's supposed to be the Permian.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Cause none of that was filmed in Odessa.

Uh, Jody Lynn,

I'll never go to a car wash

and not think of money laundering again.

Do you add an honorable mention too,

right?

Or even like an alternate list?

I had an alternate list.

And so my alternate list,

I'll just run through them right quick,

was number five, The Wire, number four,

Mad Men, three, Game of Thrones, two,

Breaking Bad, and then number one,

Sopranos.

Okay.

I've never seen Game of Thrones.

Oh.

I've tried.

I've tried.

But if you don't like that

kind of fantasy genre of stuff,

maybe hard to get into.

I put myself in moral

dilemma so many times.

It took me three watchings

to get into The Sopranos

before my morals would let

me get into The Sopranos.

Game of Thrones...

the first couple of episodes,

I could not get past the

first couple episodes.

I just, well, you know, you know, um,

outlander,

that's one of my wife's favorite shows.

I call it Scottish, whatever, but, um,

once you kind of get past that,

it really does have a good storyline too.

And it's kind of,

kind of interesting how they transvert,

you know,

traverse their way through history.

Well, no,

and I'm glad I got through

Sopranos to actually see it all through.

But sometimes I hit these

things in my head and I've

got to reconcile it before I can move on.

Yeah.

Kenneth says Lost was great for me.

That's another one that the

first three seasons were fantastic.

The last two seasons, meh.

And I think the last two

seasons ruined it for me.

to where I just couldn't.

It's a great show, but not top five.

No sitcoms is the only role.

That is correct, Corey.

Good thing you didn't have

me on this show on this topic.

I've never seen ninety

percent of these shows.

Yeah.

Well, Jody,

you could have made your own list,

and then we could see what

you are watching.

Right.

Right.

We'll get you on for something, Jody.

We just got to find the right topic.

I have been called a yuppie before,

but just not recently.

So...

with lonesome dove and the curly mustache.

And do you take some of your look from,

from that show?

Or, um,

I don't really take it from the show.

I take it from, you know, the,

the culture that I kind of grew up in.

Okay.

Because where I live is a

lot of ranches and stuff.

And my grandparents had an

eight hundred acre ranch

here in Hamilton that I

pretty much grew up on.

Um,

I used to ride rope a little bit,

work cows all the time.

And before I became a teacher,

Stephenville,

which is supposed to be the

cowboy capital of the world,

is where I went to college.

But I used to do work with

cattle and stuff like that over there.

So it's just kind of part of my culture.

So my last question is,

have you seen Yellowstone?

Have I seen the show Yellowstone?

Yeah, I've seen all of it.

Okay.

So you have Lonesome Dove as number one.

Yellowstone didn't make your list.

Do you like the way

Yellowstone went with it or not?

Because I'm so close to the

way that that world works.

It's kind of like Landman too,

because I've had family

that's worked in the oil field too.

It's one of those things

that I have to just kind of

shut off what I know and

just look at it for entertainment.

Gotcha.

And so I would say that

Yellowstone's good entertainment.

So is Lonesome Dove,

but it's just different to me.

I put them in different boxes.

Okay, cool.

Kenneth says,

Jay Birch is basically ripped

from Yellowstone.

I've been compared to worse.

I'd take that, Jay Birch.

Yeah, yeah.

Corey going for his top five.

Doctor Who, Top Gear, Strike Back,

The Mandalorian, working on a fifth.

Man, you're into the sci-fi.

Yeah.

I'm all about The Mandalorian, too.

I love the Mandalorian.

I think I just naturally

like there's so many star

Wars fanatics in my family.

Like I don't, I'm,

I always say that I'm a

bigger Indiana Jones fan than star Wars.

And so I like push back on

the star Wars stuff sometimes,

but the Mandalorian was great.

Yeah.

Um, I've never seen Dr. Who.

I remember the old Doctor

Who that used to be on PBS.

Well, this was fun.

Yeah.

But it is time to get back to work.

Lunch hour is over.

With that, guys,

thank you so much for being here.

Drop your top five shows into the comments,

and we'll take a look at

those maybe throughout the week.

I want to thank Jay Birch

for being here again.

What an awesome dude.

So good to get to know you better.

And maybe we'll have you

back for another top five

on another Tuesday.

You bet.

Thank you, brother.

All right, man.

With that,

we'll see everybody next time on

Lunch with the Kiesdale.

Bye, guys.