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A thirst quenching podcast for the girls, gays, theys, & astrology baes where we talk about anything & EVERYTHING through an astrological lens.
Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Tea from the Galaxy, a thirst quenching podcast for the girls, gays, theys, and astrology baes where we talk about anything and everything through an astrological lens. So I am so excited about today's episode. The guest that I have on this week's podcast is Lanaoa, aka the astro mom on TikTok. We have found each other through TikTok, actually.
Serena:Her TikTok page is right now solely dedicated to Scorpio risings, and I am a Scorpio rising just like her. What better time to have an episode all about what it feels like to be a Scorpio in specifics, Scorpio rising, than Scorpio season. Happy Scorpio season, guys. So we definitely talk about all the ins and outs of what it feels like to be a Scorpio rising, things that we've been through, what's happening currently with Scorpios and Scorpio risings. Lanao is also a mother of four children, all of who have some type of Scorpio placement.
Serena:She knows all about what it means to be a Scorpio and what it feels like, what it looks like, what raising children who have Scorpio placements looks like as well. Lanaoa recently just started her own podcast as well called Cosmic Rebels where she uses her knowledge on astrology to empower children and also using it to help parents understand their children through an astrological lens as well. Her own personal story is very inspiring. Falling in love with astrology and gaining astrological information as well has changed her perspective on just life. How she shows up in general, but also how she shows up as a parent as well and helping her understand her children and helping meet her children's needs as well, which I think is just super, super inspiring.
Serena:And I feel like you guys will love this episode. So without further ado, let's just jump right into it. I love your astrology TikTok page. It's very rare to find a page that's very dedicated to just a certain placement or aspect, but I think it's so needed because it helps you learn the ins and outs of what that placement is like if you're really trying to learn your chart. So I'm a Scorpio rising so when I found your page I was like oh I need to follow this page.
Serena:When did you specifically start getting into astrology or why? What was like that your storyline with that?
Linawa:The why moment? It was in 2021. I've been a photographer for a very long time. It's in my DNA. And then I COVID made me open up a cleaning business and I had a whole crew.
Linawa:I had like employees. I had someone in charge of HR. I was going through this weird time, like, scarcity mindset. I have to make money. My studio my photography studio actually closed down.
Linawa:My cat moon is in the second house in Placitas, so it's it's a money thing.
Serena:Oh, you also have a Capricorn moon? Yeah. Okay. Oh, that's something that I usually ask at the beginning. Was going to ask what your big three is, but yeah, so your big three is?
Linawa:I'm a Virgo Sun at 15 degrees. So I do use Placidus. I merged the two together, Me too. Okay, cool. A lot of people don't do that, I guess, but I do.
Linawa:It works for me and the clients. My Virgo Sun's in 15 degrees. My Cat Moon is an eight and it sextiles my ascendant at Scorpio rising eight degrees exactly. So I am a moody ass person. Me, I'm a Cancer.
Linawa:Okay. Yeah. So you're probably, maybe you're like nicer. I'm very rough around the edges. It's very hard.
Linawa:It's hard. It's Capricorn. So, yeah, I'm very I'm very moody, but when the moon sextiles the ascendant, it does soften the Scorpio rising a little bit. So Yeah. But it's a it's still a Capricorn moon at the end of the day.
Linawa:So
Serena:Yeah. And then with that Virgo sun, it's very adds, like, to the earthiness of the Capricorn moon. We're ruled by Mars, you know, with that passion. Like, if something is really like strikes a chord, we move with that emotion first. Yeah.
Serena:Yeah.
Linawa:My emotions strike a whole symphony inside.
Serena:Yeah.
Linawa:My Mars isn't in Leo. That squares my ascendant. So there's other things that just make me pretty volatile. Yeah. Yeah.
Linawa:Now is your Mars in Scorpio?
Serena:No. My Mars is in Cancer, but it's opposite my moon. So I definitely struggled with growing up controlling, like, my emotions and anger. Yeah. It was, like, zero to 100.
Serena:So still to this day I feel like now as an adult I found something that helps me and I always give this advice to people who have like prominent Scorpio and Ares placements to have a physical outlet a workout routine.
Linawa:Oh my gosh, you have
Serena:to. Like it does numbers for me. Having a workout routine, it just helps me so much, not even physically but mentally, emotionally. Just get all those emotions out, just physically moving your body. And I'm into like kickboxing too, like boxing, stuff like that like yeah physical movement.
Serena:So you said in 2020 you Yeah it
Linawa:was just things were going on. A friend of mine I was meeting up with her long story short, she literally introduced me to astrology and said, Here, put in your information. And I'm pretty obsessive can learn, when I'm interested in something, I just learn nonstop. So that's what happened. Now, when I was a child, I was very into astrology.
Linawa:Anything that had Virgo, just had it. It was mine. So there was pride in this zodiac of my sun sign, but I didn't know about anything else. Then I did go through a period when I became a Christian where I didn't even touch a horoscope. I'm pretty much self taught.
Linawa:I do workshops when I can. I love to learn, maybe this is my cat moon, I love to learn from the older astrologers. So the people in their seventies. Yeah. So I have books.
Linawa:I'll go to workshops. I just signed up for two online. So I just started learning and then I created an avatar basically of like every personality I'd meet. I have my whole dentist office like their charts in an app but I don't use the app for my clients but I use it for personal fun use like you're just meeting someone that you want to look at your chart real fast and I'll just tell them little things about them. I think I have like two fifty charts in there that I just collected since it was I want to say 2020 the 2021 is when I started to learn about astrology.
Linawa:I think that's the time frame. I was wanting and desiring a career with freedom and travel, which I didn't know it at the time, but that lines up with Sag on the second for Scorpio rising.
Serena:Yeah.
Linawa:And something clicked when I learned what the Vesta asteroid was. I said, Oh my gosh, this just because of my own natal Vesta and the the placement, I said, is literally what I want to do for a living. And I started charging and testing my, like, my talent or my skill right off the bat. And so the rest is really history.
Serena:So, you know, I don't know too much about certain asteroids. I'm learning more. I'm really into Chiron, working with Chiron. But what really does Vesta represent? I'm not too familiar, to be honest.
Linawa:Vesta is so it's part of, my signature readings that I do. I call it passion and purpose. So it's the it's the passion, it looks like flames on the astrology chart and it is one of the larger asteroids. It's based obviously in Greek mythology to do with I believe the goddesses that worked at the temples and that these goddesses had to keep the flames lit and if they didn't, they'd be sacrificed or killed. And that fire, the flame represents the hearth or the fireplace of the home.
Linawa:So I always tell my clients, you don't start the fire and walk away. You have to tend to the fire. Not in this society, everybody's all about success and the career. And I'm very rebellious. I do have black moon Lilith conjunct Uranus and Scorpio and so I've always been kind of rebellious and about autonomy.
Linawa:So I try to help people integrate their Vesta with the career. People are kind of lost.
Serena:Interesting, yeah. That's a big Scorpio rising thing. I feel like me having a Scorpio rising and how we view the world and our perception is passion should be incorporated into your daily life and you should live out your passions.
Linawa:That
Serena:makes so much sense that you're like, yeah let's combine this into your career because I'm so I'm always giving that advice to people like and I'm always such a big supporter if someone has a dream even if it seems a little unusual. Oh
Linawa:I'm all
Serena:for it. Are you kidding me? I'm all for it.
Linawa:The crazier the better.
Serena:Yeah like live it out believe in it and if no one else believes in you like I'll believe in you But then also, you probably relate to me because we have Capricorn moons. I'm like, but you need to put work in. Like, if it's just a dream and it's just a fantasy because I've also been close to people like that too where they have these big dreams and nothing is being put into motion and I'm just like, you're not really giving me anything to work with here you're making it very hard for you it's like hard to watch almost.
Linawa:So I am detached from clients in that way. I think it's because my oldest child's also 21 and I just believe in like kind of, like, letting God do his thing. And everybody can be heard. And, like, their deepest desires and their purpose is you can't run from it. The asteroid Vesta doesn't really activate until you're 30, so it kind of goes with the nodes.
Linawa:Those don't really activate until you're 30 as far as how I've learned it.
Serena:You can run your Saturn return?
Linawa:Exactly. I've Yeah, there's a process. So I do give readings to younger people in their early 20s much different. I I feel like they're so worried especially when I get these hungry people because you have to wait for things to activate but, like, I know all my kids' Vesta. I know my partner's Vesta.
Linawa:So it's just important to know your Vesta. It's not like it's really hidden. You need permission. So the parents need to activate it in my opinion from like the moment you're born. Yeah.
Linawa:But it is there.
Serena:Yeah. That's interesting. A point that I wanted to ask you about that you briefly touched upon earlier was you said that when you were Christian that you kind of put astrology to the side. I really I grew up Catholic so when I started getting into astrology it was a like a push and pull like a tug of war almost that okay, well I grew up like this and I'm told that I shouldn't believe in this, but also I love this study. Like I fell in love with this study so let me keep an open mind.
Serena:Are you still, do you still identify as being Christian or what was that journey incorporating?
Linawa:I do. It all makes sense to me. My Mars is in the ninth house. I've gone through very dogmatic stages of my life now that I'm in my 40s. I don't push anything, I believe, on anyone, including my Children who go to a private Christian school where I was basically interrogated because the principal found out what I did for a living and really, and so I was asked a lot of questions and I said, listen, what is the problem?
Linawa:Because I'm all about my kids' autonomy and they want to be there. And my son, I think it was him or my daughter said astrology is stupid. And that is just an opinion and that's fine. Then back to the charts, I know it was charts. It's kind of funny.
Linawa:I actually went to their every Friday they have like a worship and I went. This is the first time I went and I was very inspired and took a picture because I'm gonna make a post on Tik Tok later and you probably know because you have, it sounds like you have ninth house placements whether Placitas or Whole Signs. Like I'm seeing these words based on scripture and I'm seeing the bigger picture of like the mercury in retrograde and sag and like solidifying and taking your breath in. I don't go to church, I've gone to life group, I was still going to life group. My best friend is very, very Christian but she also uses astrology from me.
Linawa:Help her with charts and stuff but it's always little let's pray and da da da da. I'm very into psychology like don't tell to pray but we're gonna not see a therapist. She's an analogy of we're not gonna send someone to heart surgery but then not tell them to clean up your diet. There has to be some like ownership and responsibility but I've always been interested in God. For me, the Bible, the way it's been, like it's spoken to me still resonates to this day.
Linawa:The only thing that is typical is the astrology with like the way Christianity is in this country doesn't really fit in, but I have a lot of friends that absolutely like read the bible, love the bible, and they're even, I feel like a little bit above me. They talk about concepts I don't even get like molecules and it's more it's just it's bigger I don't she's an Aquarius I don't know.
Serena:Yeah makes sense yeah so yeah Aquarius like.
Linawa:Yeah so that's where I'm at right now.
Serena:I still believe in God and I still do what I do. People think that me being into astrology that I don't believe in that anymore. Like I don't believe in God. I will say I'm not super religious. I do identify with being more spiritual.
Serena:I also think that astrology is more of like a science in a way that It's a pattern.
Linawa:It's a
Serena:Yeah, it's an observation of patterns. Exactly. So it's like a it's like a road map. It's a tool. That's how I view it.
Serena:It's not like you have to believe. I don't pray to my birth chart you know what I mean? So I think exactly what you said there needs to be more than just prayer. I think that's a spiritual health right? Like we need to take care of not just our physical mental and emotional but spiritual health.
Linawa:Right.
Serena:But then there needs to be like other things like what you said going to therapy now that's your that's helping your mental health and emotional health and then a workout routine that's physical health like that's I believe in that is a well rounded
Linawa:right
Serena:so yeah and I also believe in duality and I think that every religion, the basis and foundation of every religion is very very similar.
Linawa:Fishermen have to look up the tides, it's based on the moon. Yeah. The magnetic pool with the water and everything. I read things in my kid's science book and I'm just like, okay.
Serena:People who are a little iffy of thinking that astrology isn't real, that's like one of the reasons that I say. It's like, do you believe in energy? That's literally the study of astrology, certain planets and alignments energetically are affecting us here on earth. That's literally what it is.
Linawa:I do kids charts reading. I love that. If I had to pick one niche, it would just and I do believe in niching down, by the way. Yeah. Yeah.
Linawa:So it would just be the kids because it's like and that's a lot of Scorpio risings with Leo on the MC. We are I think we can make very good parents. We want to protect children. Our inner child wasn't really usually well protected for the typical archetype of Scorpio rising. So I just love it.
Linawa:And I'm just like, I want to tell the parents like relax, get out of their way. They know what they're doing.
Serena:I definitely connect with you on that too. I worked with children for a time period of my life. And when I went to school, I first wanted to be a social worker because I wanted to help children in the system. Switched over to just psychology with a focus on child development. So I was always interested in wanting to work with children but I never knew exactly what I wanted to do specifically.
Serena:I never had that guidance of what job should I do. I never really saw myself as being a therapist per se. I like the research side of it. I do have eighth house placements. So I'm very much, you know, a researcher type of analyzer, read in between the lines, get down to nitty gritty.
Serena:I love psychology. I love how the human brain works and especially in children. So and how what happens to you in childhood really forms who you are as an adult. Now let's take it to another layer. I also got into astrology in college when I was learning all this and I was like what if we combine the two?
Serena:I started working with children. Obviously I never asked parents for their birth time but I would look up their birthday and see like their chart and you could really see how they're different, how they absorb information differently, how they learn differently by what they need emotionally, like just by their moon sign, by how they learn their Mercury sign, stuff like that. So I would love in the future if astrology is starting to become you know more mainstream people are open minded to it. Yeah it will be right. I think so too.
Serena:I think that is definitely heading headed happening in our future where it'll be more incorporated and yeah stuff like that. Mean I'm starting to see therapists now incorporate more spiritual tools astrology stuff like that reiki into their practice which I love.
Linawa:Searched on YouTube there I found some therapists and psychotherapists that actually talk about the astrology and Carl Jung used astrology
Serena:as well
Linawa:and I love Carl Jung and I found
Serena:Me too.
Linawa:And I have a lot in common with you too because I I was heading towards getting my AS degree in social, what is it called social work? I'm done with school. I'm done with this. And then a year later I said, Hey, I need that. I need that degree.
Linawa:And I never officially applied for the degree. And they said, Well, you need more credits because now, now the ethics class is worth two points, not one. And I said, Screw it. I don't need the degree.
Serena:Yeah.
Linawa:Wanted to work with people in addictions, with addictions actually.
Serena:Interesting. Yeah.
Linawa:I do have a lot of planets in the twelfth house, so it makes sense. And this is what I do with helping my clients see the bigger picture or if I'm looking at a child's chart, I remind that parent, we don't know what careers will be here in thirty years. We do know. Who would have ever thought I'd be into astrology and then have clients that are paying me to do that or that's just what brings me a lot of joy? So you don't have to have this degree to do this thing and that there are ethics though that you have to fall into, know, be careful with how you disclaim things or whatever.
Serena:Yeah, for sure.
Linawa:But you're on that path. You're helping people dig into the psyche. That's the eighth house. And I'm sure you do it in a very nurturing way too.
Serena:Yeah, eighth house things, Scorpio rising things.
Linawa:Yeah.
Serena:So what made you dedicate your TikTok page currently to being a Scorpio rising instead of like what it means to be a Virgo or a Capricorn Like what made you choose that placement? So I started the TikTok
Linawa:for astrology pretty, maybe a few years ago. It was a while ago. If you go and watch those really early videos, I'm kind of timid and I'm just giving information. And then going through a divorce, we sold the house. And so I was in this waiting period in 2024 from May to the end.
Linawa:Oh, like what? It was almost Scorpio season. And I'm thinking what the for this whole time I'm thinking what the hell do I do with this TikTok page? Niche down actually because I'm not an organized person and I think you have to be very organized and to fulfill every rising sign that's out there and to give them the information is very overwhelming to me. And I said, I can't do that.
Linawa:Yeah. That's one I can't do. So that's why I niched down. The fact that I'm an eight degree Scorpio rising,
Serena:I feel like I'm your people. Scorpio. Yeah. Ultimate Scorpio. Scorpio.
Serena:Yeah.
Linawa:I got you guys. And listen, here's the thing. You do not want to piss a Scorpio rising off. So that weighs on me. Like, I don't see it as my TikTok.
Linawa:This is the Scorpio Rising's TikTok and I really try to be intentional with like feeding them. I have a lot going on right now. I'm hoping next year, things are strategized differently, but I take it very seriously and I don't want to let Scorpio Risings down and you have to be careful because they can sense things too all the time.
Serena:I'm reading energy even before like someone opens their mouth.
Linawa:Oh yeah.
Serena:And I also love that your page is dedicated to that and you have that placement because who better knows what it's like to be a Scorpio rising than another Scorpio rising talking about their experience. I love those types of videos like people talking about their personal experience. Being a Scorpio rising or having Scorpio placements, happy Scorpio season.
Linawa:Yeah.
Serena:I saw you also have a daughter who's a Scorpio stellium.
Linawa:I'm obsessed with her. Probably I love that. When you if anyone's a parent and listening, when they you wanna be careful because if you do have a Leo Moon child, you will subconsciously live through them. So like an analogy is, Oh, you're gonna go be a superstar so that I can claim the fame. I'm very aware of that, but she has really hardcore boundaries.
Linawa:She's a cap rising and then she has five planets in Scorpio and her Mars is, she is bitey. She's very bitey, but I know her chart so I give her a lot of grace when she's here to learn about communication in a gracious way. Are we on that side? We are far from it. But yeah, God gave me a Scorpio child and and then I have two kids that are Scorpio Moon so.
Linawa:Interesting. Yeah. Oh yeah you know
Serena:you thought being a Scorpio down pat.
Linawa:And then my boyfriend is a Scorpio Stellium.
Serena:Crazy, I love it. A whole house full of Scorpios. Oh. That's like extreme loyalty but probably extreme attitude up in there. I think
Linawa:it was Halloween night, it was very volatile in this house. Yep. Very volatile. And I called my best friend who's a Gemini rising, Virgo sun, Scorpio moon. And I just said, I need support right now because I need help.
Linawa:Yeah, because right now, my boyfriend and my 19 year old who just had a birthday and my some of my Scorpio placements, they're all in synastry, they're all conjunct and then activated by everything right now.
Serena:Yeah, I was gonna say I think on Halloween or the night before Halloween, it was Scorpio Mercury conjunct Mars in the sky Yeah I something like that or we just got past that planetary alignment now it's in Sagittarius. You Scorpio through and through all your children have Scorpio placements you're dating someone with the Scorpio stellium but personally for you Scorpio gets the archetype of going through a lot of transformation, betrayal, loss, the the archetype of literal death and rebirth. Like that is just a theme in our lives or personally for me, I definitely relate to that. If I'm a completely different person than who I was two years ago, five years ago, ten years ago, like unrecognizable, even physically. Yeah.
Serena:So for you, how do you relate to that archetype of Scorpio rising? Is that a theme within your life of just like loss losing and finding yourself constantly and then being like the phoenix rising from the ashes? I always describe Scorpios as that too.
Linawa:They are. Their future self is wanting to that's the direction, the trajectory that we should be on. Yeah. I will burn it all to the ground. I I do think that it depends on your obvious like, your whole natal chart.
Linawa:But for example, I was I've been married twice and I go I've gone through these crazy transformations. One one day I quit drinking. I had like an epiphany. I was talking about Jesus to everyone. I blew everyone's mind and that was actually the start of my Saturn return.
Linawa:And my Saturn is in the eleventh house conjunct Mercury and Jupiter. So it was very spiritual. I changed my whole friend group. I just, I went on this whole thing and I too have changed physically. I've noticed my face changes physically very easily too if I'm not taking care of myself, but that's another thing.
Linawa:I carry loss inside of me and it's, I mean, I battled with suicide since I was nine. So, and that's because of my depth and it's not my fault. It's because of my depth and it wasn't matched by the Aquarius on the fourth house. And I really try to teach that. I'm making a course right now, so hopefully, it'll be ready next year.
Linawa:There's an archetype, and people have to understand the archetype. You don't wanna go into your spotlight because the Leo is opposing the Aquarius. You don't want to let go of the group thinking mentality. But go back to your childhood where you like, you know, I was just thinking today while I was driving, okay, I'm gonna be around my family of origin for Thanksgiving. Do I keep my mouth shut?
Linawa:Because I was labeled a certain way. Now I realize that's not who I am. I dragged my family to therapy when I was a teenager. I literally said, I do not feel loved. And I proclaimed the truth.
Linawa:I didn't feel love. But at that time, because I think I was younger and hadn't gone through more traumatic relationships, I didn't blame myself as much then. It was, we're gonna solve this, not I'm going to die spiritually and physically. We have a problem here. This is a we thing.
Linawa:This isn't just me and there's reasons why that didn't work because people had skeletons in the closet. And that's what Scorpio rising does. And that's I think, resentment builds up, anger builds up and they don't know what to do with their depth. You have to inspire people. That's the Leo mid heaven.
Linawa:I know you have a Virgo mid heaven but I do integrate, you know, I do integrate the Leo with the Virgo or the Leo with the Cancer.
Serena:Yeah, me too. I also have a Leo Mercury the great,
Linawa:well this week you got your thing, you look beautiful, you're like that's Thank you. You better listen to me when I talk. I have a son with Mercury in the tenth house so Yes. And he says look at me when I talk.
Serena:Yep, me I'm very much you will listen to me when I speak and if you're not and then I'm just not gonna talk. So it's like I get very offended when people aren't listening. It was actually a thing growing up. I felt never, I never did I ever feel like I was being heard.
Linawa:Oh that makes sense.
Serena:And now I'm like I want everyone to hear me. Yeah.
Linawa:You probably weren't. And that's what I tried to explain things and things I've learned going through therapy myself. It's my experience. I need to understand my experience so that I can make sense of it and alchemize. For the Scorpio rising, if we could be a perfect Scorpio rising, what would it look like?
Linawa:We would be in relationship because we wouldn't be running from the mirror that we hold up to someone else or vice versa when they hurt us. And we say to ourselves calmly, this is no good for me, I'm going to separate. But that separation doesn't kill us. We alchemize it and we turn it into art. If you have a Scorpio rising with a lot of Libra placements, they're probably an artist or they work in the esoteric world with art.
Linawa:They're interior decorator, but this lamp over here doesn't just mean a lamp over here. It's very like deep and meaningful. Think, am I biased? Maybe. But the Scorpio rising is the best sign because it's literally life after death.
Linawa:Yeah. I I just I can't unwrap my head around that. Do think they're badass signs just as much as Scorpio rising but it's also, I think one of the worst to have.
Serena:Yeah, love and hate being a Scorpio rising. You are never catching a break for a long time. Like now I'm sitting in a time period of my life where it kind of feels a little peaceful and I'm like, yeah, but what lesson is Yeah, going to exactly. But it makes us just only stronger and also inspire other people to find that strength within themselves too. And like what you said, we're master alchemizers.
Serena:I've realized that I've only bounced back 10 times stronger after that and better and wiser.
Linawa:Yeah. Right, there's something in you. I do believe, I do have like this belief that I think Scorpio risings were some kind of warriors in past lives.
Serena:I can see that.
Linawa:Yeah. But now because Libra, which is relationships, is on the twelfth house, there's some karma going on there. And so you're not to be the stinger and to take your opponent down with outright, physical force. It's more about we're going to control the self and I'm working through this. Definitely wouldn't say I'm like a phoenix rising.
Linawa:Think that happens in the next lifetime and I'll come back as like a snatch and not have to worry about anything. Don't know.
Serena:Interesting. Yeah. Because a fire sign does come
Linawa:after the water. Yeah. I you know, we were talking about, like, I'm so moody and cap moon. There's days I just don't no. I don't mean it like I wanna, you know, end my life.
Linawa:It's very, very painful. And then at the same time, I'm so proud that I'm this reservoir. I'm this body that can take it all in because for the Scorpio rising, it wasn't allowed in childhood. Yeah. That really sucks.
Linawa:And I think that's where therapy comes in. I think the chart can help with that. And we're actually the we yeah. We're kind of the scapegoats in the family of origin, but we literally stop the the cycle.
Serena:Yeah. I feel that.
Linawa:Mhmm. Yeah. When you have I tell parents, if you have a child that's Scorpio rising moon or sun, those are blunt kids. They're gonna tell you, my son told me I lied the other day. I was not lying, but I get where he's coming from because I didn't act in accordance to what I promised earlier.
Linawa:That is Scorpio Moon for you. And I'll do that to my boyfriend. You told me this and then I'll remember another time that maybe he lied and I connect the two and so I totally
Serena:Oh yeah, for sure. My mom has a Scorpio stellium. So what you inherit from your parents, what you pass down to your children, like certain qualities and astrological placements because I feel like I perceive the world because I've had, I had a mother who moved in such a way that was similar to that, like my mom was like that
Linawa:so yeah. Scorpio sun's not really timid. A Scorpio rising can be very unsure of themselves.
Serena:I have realized that doing like readings throughout the past. My mom has a Scorpio, she's a Capricorn, but she has a Scorpio, Venus, Mars, and Jupiter. Okay. So that activates my first sign, but only in whole signs.
Linawa:Okay, got it. And that's Yeah,
Serena:I did not have a good relationship with my mom growing up, I will say.
Linawa:Oh, Cat
Serena:Moon. Which is very interesting, Cat Moon. But she has but she's a Capricorn and we have like very similar placements, but also very not at the same time. And I think a big thing was I maybe I was a mirror to her growing up, and I was actually a lot like her. And my friends will tell me I'm a lot like my mom too.
Serena:And I'm like, am I? And I think that was something we have a better relationship now, but I think that was definitely something growing up as along with things that she was going through in her own life too. So I another archetype of being a Scorpio rising too is being surrounded by death and loss. So literally, when I was born, my mom's father passed away two weeks after. Wow.
Serena:And my mom's I mean, my dad's grandmother passed away two weeks before my birth. So I had two sides of my family grieving, very heavy losses, deaths. And also my mom was going through postpartum while also grieving her father. So I think that was just
Linawa:You absorbed all that. Yeah.
Serena:Yeah.
Linawa:Right off the you said your Chiron's in the first. Is it in Sag or is it in Scorpio? It's in Scorpio. So that makes sense too. Yeah.
Linawa:That kind of entry.
Serena:Yeah. And I think just having that, like, always the concept of death and not being comforted by it but being comfortable with the idea.
Linawa:My Scorpio rising daughter that we were mentioning, She's an artist and her work is very dark. She'll paint herself covered in blood and she's a Scorpio stellium through and her moon in Leo is in the eighth house.
Serena:Oh yeah, so she's very scorpionic.
Linawa:She can antagonize me because her Mars is in my first house. So I I don't I try not to let that happen. It's very it's very rare. Knock on wood. We're not through yet.
Linawa:But, yeah, those things are generational. This is one thing I don't have in common and I really hope I don't jinx myself here and we are in a Mercury retrograde. I have not been surrounded by death in a way where it was shocking. I know that for a lot of Scorpio risings, they can lose a partner to death. So I haven't experienced that yet, but I've had partners where like divorcing twice.
Linawa:So I don't, that could be a part of it.
Serena:The but loss of a partner not physically but that's their presence.
Linawa:Oh but for the Scorpio Risings we are going to have Uranus going into the eighth house so I'm kind of holding my breath to be honest and I'm always telling my boyfriend to take care of his heart and exercise and you know.
Serena:Yeah, I'm also very interested about that transit because how was Uranus going through the seventh house for you? It was a roller coaster for me. Like a roller
Linawa:coaster It in my was like just the stability was it was 2018, I think. Yeah. That was when my marriage, like, I didn't want to be married. Yeah. But I, Scorpio risings are known to cling for a very long time.
Linawa:That has to do with the archetype and how Libra falls into the twelfth house. But that's when the instability and it was like shocking shit just happening over and over again. I finally got pushed and it was really interesting because when this happened I was very much into astrology. I think it was the planet Uranus in the seventh house was squaring exactly like Venus in my fourth and my then husband came home with a brand new truck without telling me. And it's like, you knew like the whole history that we'd already gone through.
Linawa:It was just a sucker punch to the stomach and that's my mind.
Serena:It was like the icing on on top of the cake.
Linawa:Yeah. So it was like a money thing. It was a loan thing. It was a shocking thing. It was just Yeah.
Linawa:Yeah. Really, really insane. Really crazy. And I'm I'm happy that that part is coming to an end with the transits going on. But personally, I have my Venus squares my nodes.
Linawa:My Venus is conjunct Pluto and those square my nodes. I personally have a lot of things going on with relationships and value for like the whole course of my life. That's part of why I'm here.
Serena:But Uranus going through the seventh house was definitely a roller coaster of heartbreak, like betrayal and then heartbreak and losing and finding myself and meeting people and finding a different identity. That's when I started dating women and then losing that person.
Linawa:Happen for a lot of Scorpio risings.
Serena:Yes. That is a pattern that I saw.
Linawa:Yeah. That's going into Gemini soon for the eighth house. Yeah. Be very experimental.
Serena:Yeah. I'm hoping it brings unexpected money
Linawa:to me. Well, I actually kind of
Serena:It's not manifesting.
Linawa:Yeah. Off topic, but I actually know someone who won a million dollars and I said, need to have your chart. Like, need this is a friend of my boyfriend. I said, I need that chart for research purposes. I guessed his rising sign based on just his I didn't have his time but based on when he won the lottery.
Linawa:Like okay, this is a north node thing happening in the eighth house. He won the jackpot, wasn't even supposed to be at the store buying that lotto ticket.
Serena:Wow.
Linawa:I guessed his rising sign and it was because something was aspecting his north node in the eighth house.
Serena:I like working with north, with the north node. Yeah. With, into my readings and when I give readings and when I just make like content because I think it's so slept on, but also a little misunderstood because the North Node brings a lot of blessings, but also it's
Linawa:a chain. It's very hard to work
Serena:with the North Node.
Linawa:Yeah. I that's one of my main because my my website's actually northnode.blog. I saw that. Yeah. It's all about, like, your purpose.
Linawa:Like, I try to keep people focused on the purpose.
Serena:Yeah. I love that.
Linawa:Yeah. So we could win the lottery. Yeah. Scorpio Risings can win the lottery over the next eight years or get inheritance or they that's why I'm encouraging if you are in the space where you wanna create something for passive income, this is an increase in income by selling your digital product or whatever on the internet. And a lot of scope your arguments because Uranus is going through the eighth, modalities of money.
Linawa:It's really okay if you have like three different ways of earning income right now. That it's it's really okay and it's kind of, with Sag on the second, I do coach Scorpio risings. You don't have to get so fixated on one career. It depends on the whole chart, but it's things are seasonal. You're not like a normal person.
Linawa:You can't really work nine to five and just be bossed around all day. For a lot of them it doesn't work.
Serena:Yeah. I definitely feel that too with having an Aries six house. Oh, yeah. Like, I like to live my day how I want to live my day. Yeah.
Serena:I don't like being told what I have to do. Yeah. I think having earth in our charts is a little like I could do it. Right? Like, I I could I could be a hard worker.
Linawa:I have stayed in jobs.
Serena:You can.
Linawa:Because I feel like I could be such a good, assistant to someone.
Serena:Yes. For sure. I love to plan things, like the flexibility of the schedule. I also like a fast paced environment too. I don't know.
Serena:I like I've I can't just be at a desk job nine to five.
Linawa:Oh, that sounds awful.
Serena:I've tried it. I hated it. I'm looking for Yeah.
Linawa:I've worked for myself since I think I was 21 or so. I was in the military for a short bit and then had started a family and then I've I've worked for myself. I I waited tables for a little bit in between. Yeah. But that's fun because you're talking with people and moving around and multitasking.
Serena:Exactly multitasking and like something always has my attention and you know I like it too so that is definitely something. Also I because I literally just watched a whole long video with Chris Brennan. You know the astrology podcast with Chris Brennan?
Linawa:Yeah. Yeah.
Serena:I love Chris Brennan. He's like one of my, like
Linawa:Your go tos?
Serena:My go to astrologers when I first started learning astrology. Like, he I would take his class by his classes and courses and stuff. As actually, I was just listening to a five hour long podcast of his the other day, and it was on the ruler of the fifth house in different houses. Okay. So being that the ruler of our second house of Centurious is Jupiter, how we make money.
Serena:Also another way of looking at where we can make money or where's the money at for us is looking where Jupiter at is at in our chart. So that was another thing for me because I have Jupiter in my fifth house. So I always innately felt like, okay, not meant for a nine to five. I meant to do something creative. I meant to I also have so many different interests, what you said, having multiple forms of income, having Sagittarius in the second house and always being intrigued by a lot.
Serena:So that was another thing. Was like, have my ruler of my second house of finances in the fifth house of creativity. I know that I'm meant to and children too. So I'm like, makes sense why these things intrigue me, why they are a passion of mine.
Linawa:So Jupiter for you is in, is it in Pisces or is it in? Yeah Pisces. Oh okay, so this, so has it been a good time for you with the north node in Pisces and kind of like is it coming together? Honestly
Serena:the past year has been especially the past since the summer till now, has been a good time so I like a time of peace and just really like getting my stuff together and focusing on me. I think like a little burden is just that Saturn going through the fifth house since 2023. Yeah. So
Linawa:I did not like Saturn going through the fifth house. It was like the it's literally the opposite of fun. It was Yeah. Trouble bus, for sure. And I maybe maybe because I'm a cat moon, I'm like, okay.
Linawa:I I got this. It's going in my six. Like, I got this. The only thing I'm concerned about is my health. So I've been trying to, like
Serena:Me too.
Linawa:Care of my health. And I've been going to the gym at 05:45 in the morning with my 21 year old. She'll come over, we'll drive. So we're on week one just trying to like, okay, I'm not supposed to eat gluten or wheat. Okay.
Linawa:And so I'm on my protocol and I'm taking care of the teeth. Yeah. And I have Lyme disease disease actually. I'm just like, I'm just very mindful of that. So I think Saturn in the sixth will be a little bit more, I hope, I hope more than the fifth.
Linawa:That was not fun.
Serena:I was liking Saturn in the sixth when it dipped its toes this summer. I like Saturn in Aries, way different vibes. Saturn in Pisces is just way too like mumbo jumbo of completely two different energies. Like, Pisces is the complete opposite of everything that Saturn rules. And in my fifth house went so Saturn going through my fifth house, I was sober.
Serena:I I completely cut everything off. Alcohol, everything, even dating. I was strictly focused on myself.
Linawa:Any kind of, like so that makes a lot of sense because when someone has a north node in their fifth house, it's time to like be like you have to take get yourself away from that group. Stop leaning on that group. Don't hide your identity. And it's kind of like me, me, me. I like the selfish energy for Scorpio Rising, actually.
Linawa:I I encourage Yeah.
Serena:Yeah. I needed it. I completely like, no distractions and also no running away. Like, that that was the goal. So from July 2024 to August 2025, I was completely just not dating, just focused on me, not drinking, not doing anything, not even really going out.
Serena:And I needed that. And but that was literally like sat through the house, like putting boundaries on dating because I was in back to back failed relationships. So I was like, alright, what's happening? So I stopped drinking. I was like, I'm using alcohol to cope.
Serena:So I was like, let's stop doing that. I stopped, yeah, partying, know, like going out, like just spending money on like that. I just felt like I needed to get a grip and I'm grateful for Saturn in the Fifth House for that way, but it was definitely not a fun, fun time.
Linawa:It's like restriction on your pleasure and kind of like what are we really having what's really fun because it's not fun when you wake up with a hangover and Saturn's sitting there. I told you so. How old are you?
Serena:Yeah I'm 27.
Linawa:Okay, okay. So I rarely drink. I actually did not drink for I think eighteen years.
Serena:So I had
Linawa:my first drink last year but I just, I don't, I feel gross and fat and ugly when I drink alcohol. Me too. Not to drink and yeah. But my Saturn return, I I just switched it all off.
Serena:Yeah. I know. That's why when you mentioned that, I was like wondering
Linawa:In the eleventh house.
Serena:Interesting. So you started your own podcast recently and I just thought that was so Thanks. Well you said we were aligned because I was like I feel like she would be a perfect guest on my podcast and I feel like she would like it and then I went on your TikTok and I saw that you literally like literally the day before you just posted about it and I'm like oh yeah We were on the
Linawa:same wavelength because the way that I work and this is in my charting, like I would say this is a blockage. I start something, and I I make it happen and then I feel very depressed. Yeah. I'm like so I'm sitting in bed and I'm just like bitching and, it's like I forget how far I've come and I've done the process of things and I forget like, oh, this is just part of it. And then my boyfriend just says, well, you just need to be on someone's podcast.
Linawa:You just need I'm like, oh, yeah. Duh. Like, I have so much in my eleventh house. I'm actually here to just help other people. Mhmm.
Linawa:That's part of, like, part of why I'm here. And it's just to help other people connect and really that's it. When I'm doing that, I am in alignment. And then you message me the next day.
Serena:So for your podcast, what is the inspiration or the purpose of that?
Linawa:It's to support your children, be who they are so that they can fulfill their mission while they're here. Like, that's that's it. And what does that look like? That means backing off and having a lot of compassion for self. And, when your kid is having an emotion, like, you can see why this bothers them in the chart.
Linawa:And, like, for example, my youngest, he's the only boy of four kids. He's the the only boy. He's eight. He has his North node in Leo conjunctiva esta, which is really good. That's very nice for someone to have.
Linawa:And it's in his eleventh house. And he's like, why do I have to go to school today? I just wanna do a YouTube channel. And I'm like, funny. So I keep the spirit alive.
Linawa:Like, that's what I do. But and I am good at working with children and their emotions. It's like a it's a talent of mine. So the whole way to school that day, that was a long drive, twenty minutes of him almost screaming. I'm just staying in the truth.
Linawa:He's a Scorpio moon. His moon with his scorp in my first house, we're working together and I'm just repeating everything to him because first of all, he's a Scorpio moon. These children, they will they're gonna trigger the parent. So if I would have had him when I was 21, I would have ruined him. I thank God I did.
Linawa:My first two children do not have Scorpio moons because a lot of these people, they don't talk to their parents. The parents were not self aware. So, and I just bounced back to him like, yeah, you're right. It is stupid to go to school when we have this YouTube channel dream. And so I just bounce everything back.
Serena:Yeah.
Linawa:You could see because I'm very strong willed. Like, you're not winning.
Serena:Yeah. But,
Linawa:so he sees I'm still going to the school and as he's seeing like, oh, this building is pretty close to the school. He starts to calm down and I got him to talk and, know, I went into his fears with him. That's the Scorpio moon. You've got to, You can't say, oh, everything's fine. You can't do that because they need to be able to hold space for that terror and they will learn to alchemize it.
Linawa:It's a beautiful thing. And so I finally, after twenty five minutes of the drive and him crying and screaming saying, hate myself. I mean, he's saying all these things, but you know, it's not throwing me off track. All it was, he's a cancer son.
Serena:All it was
Linawa:is that he's too, he's in the front row of class and the teacher calls on him too much. That was the real reason. So his teacher is really nice, very empathetic and she could see right away that Jack wasn't okay and she just gave him a hug and she just said, what's going on? And I said in front of him because I'm his voice while I'm his parent, I'm his voice so he needs to see me speak it out of my throat chakra and say, he's just really upset right now because he gets called on too much and he doesn't want to be in the front of the classroom. It makes his stomach hurt.
Linawa:He's a cancer son. So it is somatic, but it's still real. And she said, oh my gosh, no problem. She changed the desk immediately. She's very wise like that.
Linawa:And so he stayed in school and I stayed with him in that emotion the whole way but let me tell you that's not how I parented at 22 or 30. I was the parent throwing stuff so looking back I can see like now my older kids their moon sign I know where I messed up. So it really does matter.
Serena:What are your older kids' moon signs? You said one has a Leo moon and then the Scorpio moons?
Linawa:The two little ones. So my 11 year old daughter and then my only boy, they have Scorpio moons and the daughter is an Aries rising, so her moon's in the eighth. So it's a double whammy. It's a
Serena:Oh wow.
Linawa:Yeah. And my son is a Libra rising and his moon falls in the first house. So it's very important. Okay. Emotional.
Linawa:Yeah. And then my oldest, she's 21. She is a cancer rising with a Libra moon in the sixth house. So that tells me if I can be like, look at it from a detached angle. If the mother self is not self aware, then she's not going to bring harmony to this child's life.
Linawa:She's not going to bring harmony in her day to day. She's gonna make her feel in inadequate and those are all things I did definitely do. So, you know, a Libra Moon child, you wanna take them shopping. It's clothes and stuff like that. Like to this day, she has a hard time like buying herself nice stuff.
Linawa:Yeah, that's the one I go to the gym with. So I have a great relationship with them and I do think astrology, but it happened with, because I was like, I was that Christian mom who was, oh, we'll just pray. And I wasn't there emotionally with them and present. My second oldest, she's a Leo moon, so it's very important that when she does something artistic that I give it praise. I would tell a parent, I use this analogy because parents are trying to figure out how do I deal with this problem child or whatever.
Linawa:If your child has a Leo Moon and they just come out of the bathroom with your expensive makeup smeared all over their face, they just created an artistic expression and we'll worry about the mess later. We need to connect with the performance that she just gave us. And, you can't humiliate a Leo Moon child
Serena:now. Oh no, they take it so personally.
Linawa:It's awful. So for a teenager, like I have a cap rising child who's 19 and then a Scorpio stellium, she's, she was the kid who was correcting me while I was talking to another parent. You didn't say that. That's not what you did mom. So that makes sense And that's not a time to be like, can you just give me respect?
Linawa:Anything that would be humiliating, that's gonna break the connection. And the moon sign is about safety and not Parents just want to correct, correct, correct. And I'm learning this because I'm in therapy. It's not like I'm some expert really, but the moon sign will tell you so much on how they feel safe in their body. And I can look at any adult's chart and kind of guess what kind of mother they had.
Linawa:And I always say,
Serena:love that part of astrology.
Linawa:Your moon sign doesn't change. So your mother teaches you how to nurture it so that the child grows up and they take responsibility and nurture it. But did your mother help you with it? The child can't tell you don't humiliate me, you humiliated me. They don't even know what humiliation feels like.
Linawa:But now that I have the description I can, if my daughter's very pissed at me, the 19 year old, and I realize what I did wrong, I could offer the words, wow, did I just humiliate you? That must have been humiliating, like if something happened with her friends, you know, somebody canceled
Serena:on
Linawa:she's a cap rising, so you never leave a cap rising out of food plans. I messed up the other day. I got a lot of kids. It's going you know, it's crazy here. Mhmm.
Linawa:I got Chick fil A. I think I got Chick fil A for one kid, but not her. She's just she works full time and she has she's busy. She's not always here. She doesn't have a curfew.
Linawa:She runs her own life. I just really wasn't thinking of her and she's like, I'm just not gonna eat. I'm like, we just took you out to dinner for your birthday yesterday is what I was thinking in my head. But cancer is on their descendant. It's food so it's
Serena:Yeah, it's the love language.
Linawa:Yeah. It's the love language. So today I got her sushi and brought it home from the store and I'm like kind of kissing her butt but I'm speaking to her love language a little bit you know that's true but it's also the moon, the Cancer moon.
Serena:I love that. Using astrology to help understand your children and to form better relationships and family bonds, because I'm such a big believer that it starts off in the home. Like, it starts off with understanding parents and creating like a loving home environment. And we raise those children up to be good people that are then into society and spreading love instead of trauma and hatred. And that's where it starts like this is the foundation like having a parent who is aware and understanding and patient and if they just knew these little things astrologically about their own child's birth chart, it helps so much.
Serena:To also know that you need to raise each child a little differently like you need to approach each child a little differently like just because you're all in one household doesn't mean that you know everyone is the same.
Linawa:It's so true and that's what I say and I use myself as an example. I have four kids and amongst them is three different moon signs and they are going to experience me differently. I have a Capricorn moon and then I have a Cancer sun. So I can't speak to him in a harsh tone. I lose the connection.
Serena:So
Linawa:he's very, very sensitive. And then on top of it, he has the Scorpio moon. So I have to be very mindful of that. And then how kids process anger will look at Mars. Yeah.
Linawa:Where Mars is. Well, when you have an adult with Mars in the second, they're all about their stuff. But the talent with that is they can be very good at gaining assets, which means making money. So it's funny because all these things are like so ironic. It's like the child comes in wanting and loving money and the parent had a core wound that has to do with money and they're like telling them, not everything is about money.
Linawa:Money is bad but when you have a strong second house and maybe you have Mars there, you have the ability to teach others your like a strong value system. This is a person, this is a kid who doesn't want you touching their toys without permission. This is a protection over the second house. So I'll explain stuff something like that to a parent and and try to show them the bigger picture. And while we know that and we can respect them and say, Oh, yeah, you're right that I would be mad if my sister just grabbed my toy too and acknowledging that and then on a subconscious level, on a sneaky level almost like teaching your kid that they are not what they own and that's like, I think Mars in the second house and that's if you look at it in this beautiful way of what could be someone with a strong Mars in the second, they can accumulate wealth, they can be very like this with their stuff.
Serena:Yeah. Possessive. Possessive. Exactly. They don't Yeah.
Linawa:Afford stuff. But if you can teach them at a young age because you know that they have Mars in a second, that they are not what they have, they're they're important already, that can go a long way with Mars because Mars is important in anyone's chart also.
Serena:So that's gonna be, like, the basis of your upcoming pot or the podcast that you just started. Right? Just like
Linawa:I just started it. I have, I had the kids, my little ones, they go with between me and their dad every other week. So they're with dad today, so I'm kind of, like, doing a mental shift. So I'm gonna upload a bunch of episodes to catch up, keep some in my pocket for when they come back. So there's just an intro to the rising signs right now, and I focus on the third house.
Linawa:So that's gonna be a big part of it. I don't like the school system. If you have Capricorn on the third, you're not you just wanna go make money and you wanna go do your thing. This is very serious. This is all stupid.
Linawa:That can be something for a Scorpio rising. And I did homeschool my kids. So, I really wanna focus on the education part, but it's really about how they absorb things and then integrating that into their purpose to keep the bigger picture. Because, for example, there's parents that really talk really bad about online video games. I get it.
Linawa:You don't want them on the screen all the time. I give so the way I parent is very different from most parents and how I used to parent. But, like, Jack, my youngest, he he builds games. He gets inspiration from playing games. So Yeah.
Linawa:And I don't know where the technology is gonna lead. And when you have a North Node invest in the eleventh house in Leo like he does, he's he already has experience in groups of people because his south node is in the Aquarius. Now he's here to showcase his talent.
Serena:Interesting. And I always say when people are feeling lost and when I give dream career readings, I especially if people have LEO placements too or fifth house placements, I'm always like, reflect on what your inner child likes or what you liked as a child. What did you play with? How did you play? Like, what types of what was your imagination like?
Serena:Like, what made you happy as a kid? Because that could give you a clue on your passions moving forward. I always had
Linawa:a camcorder, and we would make movies and TikTok for me is very comfortable and that's what I try to encourage is don't take yourself so seriously like nope people are watching this on the toilet. Yeah, literally. Yeah, it doesn't really, it nobody really cares. And if they're Yeah. You, it's probably because you're you're doing well at something and that's something back to the Scorpio archetype.
Linawa:People will be jealous of you.
Serena:Jealousy. Yes.
Linawa:Scorpio rising, whether despite your age, you're going through the Pluto digging out your your fourth house stuff. And Pluto's gonna go, oh, you were just a, you know, like, a problem child. And he's gonna hold it up in front of you and say, do you wanna keep using this? So and it's gonna be tested in the seventh house because that's squaring the seventh. So that's your relationship.
Linawa:So that's a really long two decade process.
Serena:Yeah. I'm interested of what that Pluto going through the fourth with Uranus through the eighth is going to look like, but at the same time.
Linawa:I think if you're in the healing industry, it can be good because Yes.
Serena:I think it's a lot of digging deep. It is. For sure.
Linawa:And I think that a lot of people, and you're into psychology and like you said Reiki too, Reiki. Yeah. Which I use as a modality to help me, connecting those two places in the chart, air houses, it's like, oh my gosh, I'm feeling this thing going on in my fourth house, my childhood and it's your mother's lineage too. It's what's been passed down through the womb and the DNA and you're getting like flashes of insight and like, oh I think I know how to solve this problem for other people and then the eighth house is talking to your tenth house with the sextile and this is how you can bounce it back to the career for the Scorpio rising if that's what they're doing like in healing work. I've been telling Scorpio risings, if you are in healing work and you're thinking of some pretty outside the box ideas to help people, go with it.
Linawa:Be arising. You're not here to teach your family. You're here to shine in the public atmosphere. Not your your Leo, which is ruled by the sun. It's at the top of the chart, not at home.
Serena:Actually, now that when you say that out loud, I definitely relate to that. I think having Aquarius in the fourth house, this is a weed problem. Like, what can we do to fix it? Like, that was definitely something that I felt growing up. I'm like, all right, if you just did this and you just did this and everything would be okay as I get older and I'm at a time period of my life, I moved away from my family.
Serena:I live in Florida. They still live up north. And I've realized that the most I can do to help is to lead by example and to live the life that I want to live and have everyone else follow suit.
Linawa:That's a really big one for Scorpio rising because your chart ruler is Mars. A bit in a different way, Mars also rules Aries and they will, they ostracize their friends in a way because they just go. So they tend to leave them out a little bit. And if we can kind of follow that in the Mars way, that is really, really helpful. I sometimes just wanna like shake Scorpio rising and saying, why are you so fixated on what your family thinks?
Linawa:Like, literally, if you think about it, your family is what? Maybe five people?
Serena:Mhmm.
Linawa:And you have the whole world to speak to.
Serena:Interesting. Yeah. That's very true.
Linawa:That's how powerful it is. And so that's Pluto will be doing that for people. So I look forward to actually your age group and the kids that are Scorpio risings because they're they're going through Pluto in their fourth house too.
Serena:It's
Linawa:gonna be difficult. That means, family can be divorcing. They lose family. They're really experiencing loss in the context of their home life right now.
Serena:Moon, Mars compatibility is definitely a love hate compatibility that I have too.
Linawa:I have that with my my Scorpio stellium daughter. My Mars is in Leo and her moon's in Leo and they are conjunct almost exactly. It's like three degrees apart. So looking back on her life through like how she experienced me makes a lot of sense. She still has resentment.
Linawa:Not that I have tough skin as a parent. They can have an experience and it's not like I have a it's a dagger. It's their experience. When she was little and I made a change and astrology was helping me and she was so mad at me and she would keep it in, I would almost, I would curse for her. I would say you must be really effing pissed.
Linawa:I needed to give her permission because I had squashed it and for a Scorpio, that's the opposite of Taurus which is the throat. So you need Scorpio kids to be able to release it but the hard part for the parent is they're pretty, they tell you the truth and it's gonna hurt your feelings and you're gonna take it the wrong way but are they lying? Probably not. Yeah. I love how
Serena:aware you are though and how you can put a mirror to your face and be like, I understand my child's experience and perception of me during this time period. And instead of taking it very personally or even disregarding your own child, take it, have it, hold space for it, and then like want to be better or understand it or dissect it. I think that's very that's very rare to find and I think it's a perk of knowing astrology and like loving astrology and incorporating astrology.
Linawa:And like their chart has nothing to do with me. It's asking me as the parent with a child's chart. How can I help them with their nuances and their personality and their experience? Because if you have two children and one is a, a Taurus moon and then a Leo moon, that Taurus moon needs a lot of physical comfort. So if you're rushed throughout the day and that child's coming up to you for some body touching with nourishment, like they're getting their nourishment through skin on skin contact, like if you have a Taurus moon baby, they need to be on your skin to skin, and you bypass that and then next thing you know, the kid's mad at you, you're going through the teenage years, maybe it's a very toxic environment and that kid is saying, you never hugged me and the mom's going, what are you talking about?
Linawa:I put a roof over your head. You didn't give them the body comfort. It's not about what you did. So that's another reason why I'm so passionate about that is children are not stupid. They know a lot about themselves if you listen.
Linawa:They listen pretty well to their body. I don't like the term temper tantrum. I don't really kind of like when parents say, oh they had a temper tantrum because really when they flung themselves on the floor, they were somatically releasing this. If they don't, it stays inside. That's another thing, with the children's charts.
Linawa:If you know your child's chiron, you cannot erase this core wound, but you can help support them and then coming from the alchemizing standpoint, you're not going to break down, you're going to feel it and then you do something with that power out in the real world I guess if you want to call it.
Serena:Exactly. That's that was a big purpose of why I even started this podcast, to be honest. Like, had a moment realization. I was like, everything that I've gone through in my life is not going to be for no reason. I'm going to alchemize it into
Linawa:Scorpio rising. Yeah, that makes a
Serena:lot of sense. That is the epitome of being a Scorpio rising, honestly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love this episode with you.
Serena:Thank you so much for
Linawa:Thanks for
Serena:texting. Hopping on on this with me. Where can people find you, connect with you, listen to your podcast?
Linawa:So right now the podcast is only on Spotify and it's called Cosmic Rebels and then I have TikTok and that's underscore astromom underscore. I am gonna start talking about children's astrology, but only on lives because I have to stay still to the Scorpio rising motto.
Serena:Yeah. I have to I just have I
Linawa:have the they're just loyal, so they demand loyalty is what I mean.
Serena:Now you have your podcast to talk about child astrology, parent child relationship astrology and I love that for you. I see the passion, the fire inside of you and I'm a big believer in it. I know that it's gonna be successful and really touch a lot of listening ears and parents who really just want to be a good parent and just like understand their child. I love what you're doing.
Linawa:Thank you. Oh, and then my website is northnode.blog. So
Serena:Perfect. That's
Linawa:out there.
Serena:Yeah. Perfect. Well, thank you again. I appreciate it. Oh, it's a pleasure.
Serena:I will make sure to follow your upcoming podcast. I'm so excited for your episodes that you told
Linawa:me
Serena:that are gonna be really soon.