The Spartan Orientation Station

Welcome back to Spartan Orientation Station. Today's episode is Spartan Transfer Talks: Starting Fresh and Building Your New Community, where we will discuss your new MSU community and getting involved in extracurriculars and social scenes.

We are joined by the Transfer Student Success Center team, Dr. Charles Jackson and Ashley Hewlett-Lemke. Thank you all for joining us.

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Abigail 0:00

Welcome back to Spartan Orientation Station. Today's episode is Spartan Transfer Talks: Starting Fresh and Building Your New Community. We are joined by the Transfer Student Success Center team. Thank you all for joining us. My name is Abigail. I have a major in social work with a minor in justice, law, and public policy. And I'm a rising senior this year and I transferred from Lansing Community College aka LCC.

Lauren 0:26

Hi everyone. My name is Lauren Calhoun. I'm a recent graduate from MSU with a major in psychology and a minor in law, justice, and public policy. I also am a transfer student from Oakland Community College or also known as OCC.

Isaiah 0:40

Hi, my name is Isaiah Scruggs. I'm a kinesiology major. And I also went to LCC and I'm a part of the Transfer Student Advisory Board.

Abigail 0:50

Awesome. Thank you so much. And for everyone else can you just start by introducing yourselves and explaining what your role is within the TSSC?

Charles 0:59

All right, I'll kick things off. My name is Dr. Charles Jackson. I am the director of the Transfer Student Success Center, been in my role for about a year and I was a transfer student to MSU way back in the day. I went to an HBCU, Tennessee State University, then came back home to LCC and then finished off at Michigan State.

Ashley 1:21

I'm Ashley Hewlett-Lemke. I am the program coordinator with the Transfer Student Success Center. I also work in collaboration with our New Student Orientation programming. I was a transfer student to Michigan State from Washtenaw Community College and actually started there as a dual enrolled high school senior and then transferred to Michigan State. My degree was actually in Interdisciplinary Studies and Humanities. So, I was an arts and letters graduate.

Abigail 1:45

Awesome.

Ashley 1:46

Happy to be here.

Abigail 1:47

Thank you. And just to kick things off, I guess we're gonna jump right in. So, what is TSAB? How can you get involved? And are there any other clubs that, you know, I could join that would enable my success here at MSU?

Charles 2:01

Okay, well, the Transfer Student Advisory Board consists of a very diverse population of transfer students, so transfer students from various two-year and four-year colleges and universities. And what TSAB does is it provides a platform for our transfer students to give their insights and feedbacks on ways to better improve the transfer student experience here at MSU. We got about approximately 50 transfer students who serve on our board, and we meet with them monthly. And they provide us again, insights and ways to improve the transfer— transfers-- transfer experience for all of our students coming from two- and four-year institutions. So-

Ashley 2:49

And shameless plug for the TSAB application process. So, we just want to make sure that all of our incoming transfer students know that they are invited to apply. And as a matter of fact, some of our listeners may have already applied, they would have seen that application in the New Student Orientation Desire to Learn, affectionately known as D2L on campus, that orientation NSO module experience. Also, be sure to check your email, because we will send out that application form, it's through Qualtrics. So we will be sending out that application, later on this summer as well. So check your email. We also wanted to make sure to point out that returning at transfer students are invited to apply and everybody in this room is well, with the exception of some of our graduating seniors, of course, but everybody in this room was a part of TSAB last year and will be returning as well in the fall. So we just wanted to make sure that all of our incoming students know that this is not just for returning students, we definitely need your input. Having gone through orientation over the summer and being a new student at the institution, we need your feedback, we need your input to help shape the transfer student experience in Michigan State. So speaking of our wonderful TSAB members, I do want to ask the question to those of you who have been a part of TSAB. Lauren, I know you've been a part of it for a couple years now. So, you're part of our kind of OG crew. So glad to have you here to tell us a little bit about your experience. But related to that. So what is the biggest thing or skill that you have taken away from being a TSAB member? And what impact does that have on campus?

Lauren 4:27

Um, so I would say, like, one of the biggest skills I always--communication is something I'm always working on. Everyone's always working on it. And I feel like having monthly communication with the other members of the TSAB, and then like you and Charles. That's something that, like, it helped literally with my communication professionally. So that's one thing that I would say I've definitely taken away and a skill that I've gained. And then also just being able to reach a large community through TSAB on there's a lot of transfer students and we see you, we hear you, we recognize you. So just being able to reach out to all of them, I think, is really important as well. And then as far as, like, on campus, the impact it has, like, sense of belonging is, like, the first thing that comes to my mind because, you know, as a transfer student, you might, you know, you feel out of place at first and you are worried about how to make friends how to find your, your spot on campus, and Transfer Student Advisory Board is the one spot, I knew I had a spot in, and I can make my own community within that group of people. So definitely sense of belonging and feeling like I have a voice for myself and other transfer students.

Isaiah 5:36

And I really want to get, put some emphasis on that communication end, because I think Ashley and Charles do an excellent job with that. And I think that's one thing that I've really learned is when it comes to like planning and event, planning events, and coordinating for that, they are very clear with like, when things are going to be happening, who's going to be doing XYZ, and that's something that I think I've learned from. And then on the academic side, there are study nights that we have. And even though I didn't really get to attend any of those, it made me realize that I should be studying a little bit more. And when they would be going on, I would actually study even though I couldn't make it. So, I think it made me a better student indirectly, even though I couldn't attend. So following that, what resources are available to help me adjust to the new campus and community?

Charles 6:21

Well, some of the resources that will help you to adjust to the to the campus community, I would say, getting familiar with your-- your academic advisor, also your professors, as well. I know one of the things that we've been doing for the past year in our Transfer Student Success Center is talking about high impact practices to our students. And what I mean by high impact practices, and I think we talked about this in our previous podcast, are undergraduate research opportunities, community service learning and engagement. Also, education and study abroad, internships. So when you are involved in those particular type of high impact practices, it gets you adjusted to campus, you're able to network, not only with other students who may have like similar shared interests, but then you also get an opportunity to meet faculty on campus and TAs and they can help you on that path to graduation. So those are just some of the resources that I would just encourage individuals to take part of and can help you adjust to, to campus, and the community as well.

Abigail 7:33

Yeah, and I can kind of add on to that, because I'll be starting, like, my high impact practices, like, my internship, for example, is going to start in the fall, and then through the spring, and then I graduate. And then my whole time here, I've really done a lot of like volunteer-based service. So you know, you meet so many other students, you get to know the community, the campus, professional staff, and you do make a lot of connections that way, because when I had started doing that, I would just go by myself and be like, “Hey, guys, I'm here.” And I made so many new friends that way. And so many, like, of my professors were attending those things too, and you got to connect with them outside of the classroom. And that kind of came back into the classroom, like, hey, we saw each other at this, this is what we did. So I think that's a really important thing to get involved in kind of adding off of that.

Charles 8:20

So we're next, we're next going to pivot to some of the events that we've been having on campus specifically for our transfer students. I know this past year, we've had several table activities, and we've also promoted National Transfer Student Week, where we painted the MSU rock. We've also had these evening informational sessions with our campus partners, but what we really want to do is have students a lot more involved in these events and these activities. But most importantly, what we want them to do is to take our surveys at the end of each one of the events. So Ashley, I'm not sure if you want to talk just briefly about just, you know, the, the importance of not only attending these events, but then also providing feedback to our Transfer Student Success and routine, in terms of all the programming that we put on.

Ashley 9:18

So I think it's important for us to talk about Involve at State, and I know Lauren mentioned that a little bit ago. So we want to make sure that all of our new students who are transfer students and also returning transfer students know about our Involve at State page because that's kind of the central portal, if you will, of where we post information. So any-- any information that is about the events that we are hosting is going to be posted there. And whenever I post information there it actually, there's a checkbox that can have everybody notified over email. So again, always check your MSU email. So be able to join, join that Involve at State page, check your MSU email, I've probably already sent you an invitation for it. And if you haven't accepted, I'll probably be sending those out again at some point this summer. So just keep an eye out for that, it's important for us to have students not only register for the programming. One, it kind of helps us with planning, if we need to plan or if we need to reserve a larger space to accommodate everybody, that's something that we need to know. We also like to have food at these events, you know, we don't want anybody to leave hungry after we, we have some of our events. So, it helps us to also plan the amount of food that we need to order. So things of that nature. So registration is super important to help us kind of on the planning side of things. On the end-of-event side of things, it's really important for us to know was this session useful, was this opportunity helpful to you in some way, shape, or form, because Dr. Jackson, and I, we can't really do our work and kind of be the professional staff level voice without that type of feedback. I think it was important for us to talk a little bit about how we're a research institution and a lot of the decisions that are made at the administrative level and the day to day level for the work that we do, not just for Transfer Student Success Center, but any unit on campus, we have to have data in order to kind of drive decision making. And there's also funding attached to that. So without kind of getting into the weeds too far on that, I think it's just important to not just for events, that you're attending for Transfer Student Success Center. But if you are getting surveys about, for instance, I know that we do have some colleagues who send out a survey every fall semester about the--the student experience, and it's really important for us to hear directly from students. I'm almost 40 years old, it's been a minute since I was at Michigan State. So I mean, I know what my experience was a few, few years ago. But it's really important for those of us who are in these professional roles, kind of making plans and allocating budgets and things like that, to know what, what the needs are amongst our current student population. And I think it's really important for you as transfer students. So again, our transfer population here, we're about 10 to 12% of the entire undergraduate population. So we are kind of small, but we're very mighty. And we come from lots of different backgrounds. And it's really important for us to be able to have that voice heard amongst student surveys, and whatnot. And again, it's not just for events for Transfer Student Success Center, but make sure that you're filling out those for other, other offices on campus that send things out because again, it's really important that your voices are heard.

Charles 12:46

Again, we don't want to impose what we think Transfer Student Success means. We have an idea. Both Ashley and I have those lived experiences as transfer students, we do a lot of reading, and we're benchmarking with other institutions who have transfer specific programs. But we really need to hear from students in terms of what success looks like for you as a transfer student. And so, I would just encourage you, whether it's our surveys that you're taking, just on the transfer student lived experience, if there are other surveys that are being disseminated across campus, please take those. Because in order for us to enact any type of change, we really need that feedback from students. And that way, we're not imposing, again, what success looks like for you, we're hearing it directly from students. And that'll better help us with the programming that we put on.

Ashley 13:44

Maybe something else to add to that, you know, we actually, just to give an example of how we were able to utilize feedback from our TSAB members. So we actually worked in collaboration with the Go for the Green group, which is a team of various offices across campus that focus on-- on financial literacy. And we actually put a survey out to our Transfer Student Advisory Board members and gave some financial literacy topics. And then from that, that feedback, the information for that presentation was selected according to that feedback from our TSAB members. So again, you know, we-- we want to create the space and the opportunities, but in terms of content for sessions, or informational sessions, for example, it's important for everybody to give their feedback because we can make some assumptions, but I think it's important for us to actually get feedback from students themselves. And that helps us to inform our work.

Isaiah 14:37

So it sounds like registering for events and taking surveys is really integral to improving the social scene at campus. So, if you're a newcomer to this campus, what is the cultural and social scene like?

Lauren 14:49

You know, I, again, when you're a transfer student, when you first come to State, like it's weird, we all know like, you're in a new environment. There's people who you aren’t used to looking at every day, like, so it's definitely something new. And it could be a culture shock to some, like, being at a different school depending on where they came from before. But I would definitely say like the culture and social scene is like, everyone here is rooting for you. Everyone that is--every student that you see, they're not going to be afraid to ask you a question to ask you to join them in something. And I feel like everyone here just wants to build community as much as possible. So, like, going to the Transfer Student Advisory Board events, or just going to, you know, Sparticipation, or just any other event that is happening on MSU’s campus, like I would definitely go because all the students here are just trying to make friends and they’re in the same boat as you, they just want to meet new people and just succeed here while they're at MSU. So I definitely would say, like, that's like the main thing for me.

Abigail 15:52

Yeah. And, well, Isaiah and I came from the same high school. And coming from an I don’t, I know yours was pretty big, too. So coming from a pretty big size high school, even coming to MSU, I was like, “oh,” and even from LCC. And so, like Lauren kind of said, like, everyone here is on the same team. That's what that sense of community is, even though you're a transfer student from somewhere else, you're still a Spartan, here. And so, taking advantage of some of those events and resources are really important. And even just in your first week of classes sitting next to someone and being like, “Hey, how are you?” “What's your name?” “What's your major?” you know, having that little small talk, and you'll be amazed by just those little connections that you make with people. And even like, Lauren said, TSAB, do it, it's--it'll be your home.

Lauren 16:40

And then kind of just transitioning from our social scene, and kind of broadening it up. Why is it important to be really involved, like in the community?

Abigail 16:53

I'd say it's important because you make connections.

Isaiah 16:56

Networking is huge. Yeah, it helps outside of what, kind of going back to the last question. Not too much, but it just relates to it a bit, is that even when you meet like, alumni, those are people that are going to be rooting for you just because you went to the same college that they did. And that's like, such a beautiful thing I never expected to see.

Abigail 17:13

So true.

Isaiah 17:14

Yeah, you meet somebody to like, “oh, you go to MSU, what do you do?” And, and then it's so nice to just start that conversation, “oh, I work here. Let me get you connected with these other people.” And also, “I know, XYZ while you're going there, you should do this and that.” Gets you into high impact practices and all these other types of things, some experiences that you never would have had, hadn't you came and gotten involved.

Charles 17:35

I'm glad that you brought up alumni. And just to interject about that. So what Ashley and I are doing is we're trying to collaborate with our fundraising staff. So, we're able to build connection with our alumni who were transfer students, with our current transfer student population as well, because we still feel like there's a level of engagement that still needs to happen between alumni, and also current students. So right now, Ashley and I are in the works of trying to map out and think about how do we make that connection with our alumni who are transfer students with our current transfer, transfer student population right now, too.

Abigail 18:14

Yeah, because when I did the Spartan Day of Service, they had the alumni come out, and before they like, sent us off, they were all like cheering us on giving us high fives. So, I see why that's so important, now, kind of like you said, Isaiah, it's like, they're automatically, it's like, “Oh, you’re family now.”

Lauren 18:29

But like, and you like, just never know who you can meet. Like, for example, I went to a College of Social Science, high impact practice, like, meeting essentially that the Transfer Student Advisory Board hosted. And I was able to meet a very good amount of College of Social Science professional staff, who were able to guide me in research and give me advice, I exchanged emails with a bunch of them. So, you never know what kind of connections you can make by going to anything. And by that, like, you can get an internship, you can have things that can build up your resume. And again, just like adding to your sense of belonging here at MSU, like, by the more connections that you make with other people.

Isaiah 19:10

What can we expect as a transfer student living off of campus?

Lauren 19:14

Definitely just try to kind of scope out your area where you are going to be living off of campus. See if there's a bus route nearby, if you don't have a vehicle, that's something super important because I did not have a car when I transferred here. I do now, thank goodness, but I didn't when I first got here. So, finding an apartment that had a bus route or just one nearby was super important for me to even get to campus. You can also get a bus pass for that as well. And then something else is just like, I know not every part--every apartment might not have a laundry or washer and dryer. So, I found a laundry mat near my apartment where I could go and put, like huge loads in at once so I didn't have to wait, you know, for somebody to get their clothes out and things like that. And then also, I would just try to be on campus as much as possible. Campus is where you’re going to be every day, most likely. And that's where the rest of your classmates are. And you might meet people in your apartment building that go to MSU, so definitely try to talk to them as well. But again, just being on campus as much as you can, after class, don't rush home, go in the library, sit down, introduce yourself to people in your study space and just kind of stick around. And again, you can do the same thing in the dining hall, sit next to somebody who's sitting alone, or just join a group and introduce yourself and just see how it goes. So those are some things you can expect to try to do because it is going to be a little difficult at first, but you're definitely going to be able to get the hang of it. And you'll definitely find a sense of belonging, but you just have to put yourself out there and put in the effort.

Abigail 20:49

Yeah, I would say the same thing. Just take advantage of, like while you're here--so I was living off campus. And I was very fortunate. I had my own car, but I parked it here on campus. So I would either park at the parking ramps or I had a sticker on one of the lots, Lot 89, shout out.

Ashley 21:07

Fan favorite for sure.

Abigail 21:09

Yes. And so I utilized that. But yeah, like taking advantage of the library, or even just going on Grand River and sitting at a coffee shop if you, you know, just kind of want to be surrounded by other students, I promise they will be at the Starbucks, or any other place on campus. And so you know, just kind of reaching out in that way. And the buses will be your best friend. They’re the best.

Lauren 21:32

I still love the bus and I have a car so.

Abigail 21:35

Me too. I use the bus.

Isaiah 21:37

The transportation, seriously though, in the wintertime when that comes around, personally, I always saw the buses passing my stops, just because it's always full. Right?

Abigail 21:45

The app is so nice.

Isaiah 21: 47

Yeah. The app is super nice.

Abigail 21:49

What’s it called? Transit?

Isaiah 21:50

Transit. Yeah. So like, if it's full, and it's like consistently full, I would just walk to some of the earlier stops, just so, get on before other people get on. So then the hour you wait to get on the bus, whatever, you don't even have to worry about being passed up.

Ashley 22:02

Pop Quiz. How much is a bus pass at MSU for students?

Lauren 22:06

So a bus pass at MSU for students for one semester is $50. So not too bad. And if you use it, if you're using it every day, you're definitely going to get the bang for your buck for the 50 bucks. And you can get that in the ID Office and the International Center.

Isaiah 22:22

Yep, nice. Yeah, I would have failed that quiz. But whenever I moved off campus, and then a lot of off campus departments will have free bus passes, if you just go into the leasing office and ask for it. And they'll give it to you for, I think, like one of the semesters, not maybe not both, but then you just have to go back for the second semester.

Lauren 22:42

Yeah, and I do know, like, I have some friends that live in this apartment complex and their apartment complex actually has their own bus. So they can get on that bus and just head to campus. And it’ll take them back and it runs the same kind of times as, like our campus buses. So that's something that's pretty cool. So if your apartment has that try to find out.

Abigail 22:59

Kind of shifting gears a little bit. When is National Transfer Student Week? In what ways is the TSSC celebrating?

Charles 23:08

Great question. So National Transfer Student Week is held the third week in October, every year. This year, it will be October 16 through the 20th. I'm gonna put that date out there again, October 16 through the 20th. We will have an array of activities and events that we're going to put on, on behalf of transfer students just bringing awareness of just the transfer student experience. I know this past year, we painted the MSU rock we also had a informational session with Lansing Community College where we invited some of our campus partners from MSU Career Services, my-- My Spartan Experience co-curricular record, our admission staff and advising staff gave an overview of just the transfer process to those potential Lansing Community College students who wanted to or who were planning on transferring to MSU. So we're going to probably hold some similar type of events. We're also going to have some study nights during that week as well, because during National Transfer Student Week in October is the same week as midterms. And I think we talked about that earlier. So we're going to collaborate with our College of Social Science folks to possibly have a study night and do some other cool things with the Office of Spartan Experience, maybe a culinary or cooking kind of like event or activity that's still kind of in the works for right now. And I'm not going to give away the secret sauce to it. But no, we're also going to be sending out encouraging emails too, from our faculty and staff who were once transfer students to our current transfer student population as well because it's good to hear from faculty and staff who actually have those lived experiences as transfer students in just sending out just words of encouragement to our current transfer students just to say, “hey, you can make it you can do it.” Yeah, so just an array of things that we're going to look to do during that week,

Lauren 25:13

I would also definitely recommend going. I had a lot of fun when I went, I painted the rock, I did all that. I think the only thing I wasn't able to make it to was going to the informational session at LCC. But it's a lot of fun you guys, like if you if you've never painted the rock, it's a really good experience. So definitely try to do that. And just try to go to these events. Because usually, if you see somebody on the first day, they might be at the event the second day, so you might have a new little buddy. But definitely try to go it's really fun. And it's just something to like, open your eyes to the other opportunities you have here as a transfer student.

Charles 25:47

We're going to also try to do some tabling. I know last year, Lauren, we tried to do tabling, but the weather wasn't, yeah, it was not cooperative. So this year, we're also going to do some tabling, possibly at the rock or some other locations across campus, but just be on the lookout, in your email, for all of the activities and events that we're going to be having planned for National Transfer Student Week. I think what we can do now is maybe I can ask the question to all of our transfer students here. What tips would you provide to transfer students at MSU? And these tips can be anything, you know, that's going to help you be successful. Here's an MSU student.

Isaiah 26:30

Get familiar with campus. Know where your classes are, know where you're going. Bus routes is a big one. And just definitely be a part of your community. And those are the three big things that I would say would be super helpful as a transfer student and towards your success.

Lauren 26:46

Yeah, I would definitely say, you know, explore campus, get to know it, especially just where your classes are, if anything, that's really important. So just getting to know campus. Explore. And I would also honestly recommend joining, like, an RSO, or, like, another club here on campus. If it's the Transfer Student Advisory Board, great. If you have another one on top of that, like, great. The more you're in, the better, the more people you're interacting with, and then, again, just trying to stay on campus as much as possible, because we can't live on campus, unfortunately. So just trying to be on campus as much as possible and be involved in as much as you can is definitely a big tip.

Abigail 27:29

Yeah, I feel like we have a pretty good spectrum here because you're graduated, and you can look back on it in that lens and be like, “Oh my gosh, there's so much that like,” looking at it now, you would like do differently, in a way--

Lauren 27:42

For sure.

Abigail 27:44

Yeah. And I guess my advice is, well, it's kind of a mini story. I'll keep it short. I was struggling a little bit when I first got here. It was a pretty large campus, and that was very daunting for me and I my first semester had gone by, and I was kind of disappointed in how I did academically. And so I kind of had to sit down and ask myself, “what can I do differently this time around?” And I'd ask someone I'm like, “What can I do?” And she goes, “go to office hours.” And I go, “Oh, okay,” so I tried that the next--in the spring semester. And those office hours made a difference. I swear that is like the secret, the golden rule. I swear, I tell everyone this. And so, it is very scary at first, I know it can be. And once you kind of put yourself in that position, you're like, “Oh, this isn't so bad.” And you kind of talked to them and you introduce yourself and they're more willing to help you if you kind of make that first step. And too, being familiar with campus helped a lot. I've told this story before. My first week that I got here, I was a little nervous. So I decided to go to the MSU Dairy. I grabbed a little sweet treat. And I sat on a bench and I just kind of like watched I did a little people watching I took a walk by myself. And I could just kind of take a breath and I could just tell myself, “I'm here. I deserve to be here. I'm a Spartan now.” I don't know if you guys have anything to add onto that.

Charles 29:12

No, those are some great insights. I mean, yeah, you have to do that. And I would just say, as a former, way former transfer student, just build community. You know, there are other transfer students on this campus who are probably feeling the same way you are. And their transitional experience may be a little bit unique, a little bit different from you, but you still share that lived experience as a transfer student. So, it's really important for you to build community. Talk to folks who are also transfer students as well. And most importantly, like I stated again, attend our events. And take our survey.

Abigail 29:51

Yes.

Lauren 29:52

They’re so good. Guys, we have food. Who doesn’t--Come on, it's free food.

Abigail 29:57

Meet amazing people.

Isaiah 30:00

And one thing, too, that is really important, is asking questions as well.

Abigail/Lauren 30:03

Yes. Oh my god, I was literally thinking about that.

Isaiah 30:06

Yeah. Because it's like when you actually have a community and people that have been through what you've been through, that you can rely on to give you like good insight into what you're whatever the problem is, it's like the office hours--

Abigail 30:18

Right.

Isaiah 30:19

So going into scheduling, too, small story, when the first year I came here, I didn't really know campus that well. And I was like, I was confident I was like, whatever. I'm, I'm the black student that somehow gets A's, I'm cool with it. So, I would just, but I was late to all my classes. Because the commute I would I made like a class I like at two, that ended at two. Then my next class was at like 2:20. And I was always showing up at like, 2:35, so I've missed like that first. But that makes an insane difference when you get to walk across campus to get to your next class. So, like live, like going through those days, I ended up just kind of walking to each class, and then feeling out the commute and how my days would play out. I had dining plans, but I couldn't eat. What do I have a dining plan for? So then, it’s like, great. So it's like figuring out what those days look like for you is super important. You have to really set yourself up, you can't just--

Abigail 31:12

I have never agreed with anything more because I kind of made that mistake. I didn't know how big this campus was. And I kind of did the same thing. I did that scheduling thing. And so too, oh, I rode my bike everywhere, like the first like week of classes, it was still kind of nice outside. Went on a little ride, you know, I kind of like got a feel for things.

Lauren 31:32

So yeah, I would just say, overall, ask questions if you have them. There's no stupid question, every question you have, there's probably going to be an answer for you.

Abigail 31:43

Um, so just finding buildings. Like, you'll just see so many people standing out there, like, “Do you know where this building is near like, it's that way?”

Lauren 31:50

Yeah. So just ask any questions you guys have. Also, Google Search works pretty good. If you want to know something, type it in Google and put MSU after it. And I'm sure the website will pop up that you need. So yeah.

Isaiah 32:03

Oh, last thing, and I'm sorry, I'll actually be done after this. But, like, making friends and going back to community, I guess. But making friends in your classes is so nice. Because you're gonna see them over and over again. I had a class with this guy who had sunglasses very, very obvious dude, he just wore sunglasses every class. And I was like, “Why are you in four out of my five classes throughout the day?” Ended up talking to him. We're--now we're just buddies. And I'll see him I'll go out to eat with them. We'll study together. And it's super nice. Like, and now like, once again, you can ask questions to him. He knows it. Because he actually studies, and then like, I will learn from that. Right? So, it's, it's an iron sharpens iron type of deal.

Abigail 32:44

Yeah, for sure. And if you find out they're a transfer student too, invite them to TSAB events. Yeah.

Charles 32:49

Yes, come out.

Abigail 32:51

Alright! Thank you for all joining us today and thank you for listening to this episode of Spartan Orientation Station.