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'GEN V' Episode 4 Review!
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Bankole: [00:00:00] Hello and welcome back to the popcorn for dinner podcast, where we are always searching for the whole truth while doing some light score fucking on the side. What? When did we become X Files?
Bolu: When did we become X Files? God.
Bankole: I'm television's Jason Ritter and today we're discussing the fourth episode of Gen V.
And joining me, are you guys ready for this one? And joining me for this tag team cocksplosion, it's Bolu
Bolu: and TMT. I was just so much.
TMT: Oh, you guys do. Welcome back. Hello, my love puppets.
Oh,
Bolu: God. Why are they [00:01:00] agreeing to this? You
Bankole: say, you say such nice things to me. You guys look very moisturized.
TMT: It's nice
Bankole: to be here with you. You look very professional. For anyone who's watching the video, TMT is like, straight from the corporate world.
I love it. I've never seen this side of
Bolu: you. I love it
Bankole: very much. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, clean shaven. It's like, it's wow. It's like, wow, TMT, you live a life outside of Podcasting. And chaos, yeah. Doesn't seem, doesn't, doesn't seem to me. Yeah, my beard grows back quickly, so like, by, by the
TMT: weekend I'm ready to like, get into some shenanigans, you know.
Bankole: Oh, okay, so it's like a, okay, that makes sense, a weekly thing, you, and the week, during the weekdays you're like serious and then the weekend the beard is out and you're, yeah, that makes sense, makes sense, it tracks. Um, thank you very much for coming back. Yes. Thank you for coming back. We are going to obviously talk about episode four of Gen V before that quick admin.
Uh, TMT, could you please plug last week's Submarriage episode that you guys did with Olimide, which I thought was really good. [00:02:00] Oh, thank you guys. Um, it's,
TMT: it's episode 160 of Submarriage. It's called Love Offers No Safety. And we discuss what it's like to grow up as a queer man in Lagos. And We discussed Olumide's book, which is a collection of stories from 25 queer men in Lagos.
And, um, it's beautiful. I just, I literally just put it down recently, like maybe six hours ago. Yeah, it's a really good read. You should check it out. Check out the
Bankole: episode. Thank you for that. Yeah, no, it was a, it was a great episode with Olumide. Um, I always feel kind of envious that I can never really do podcasts like that because I can never do a podcast where I just talk about my life.
So the one thing about, the one caveat of talking about film and TV every episode is that you don't get to have those kind of, um, deep conversations, but yeah, good episode. Please if you're new to the podcast, thank you very much for coming on. Please, please rate and review. It really, really helps us. You just, if you're on Spotify, just look for the stars rates there.
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Winning Time, rest in peace, we covered that. The Continental, all episodes are out now. R. I. P. Winning Time. Um, yeah, and like there's some cool episodes that we've done. We did a Nolan draft a few months back before Oppenheimer, so you can check all of that out. But let's go into what we are here for. Gen V Episode 4.
titled the whole truth directed by steve boyum and written by jessica shu who i saw that name when i was like i know that name and i went to look at it because she wrote herogasm episode so yes she was instant hall of famer um guys everyone's fucking on this show so i don't know where do we where do we start do you guys want to start with tech night now or leave that to the end
Bolu: oh um wow yeah [00:04:00] so we can start with technique i guess so again As a song who reads the boys comic, they actually adapted his, the, the most controversial like his arc.
Yeah. I was very surprised they went for that.
Bankole: Wait is that from the
Bolu: comics? That's from the comics. Yeah, an edgy, insane comic book. Garth Enix.
Bankole: Wait, he was, he was fucking hoes in the comics. Yes.
Bolu: The only difference is that he's not quite as, um, he was actually one of the few at his core. He was, I think, somewhat more heroic than the other heroes in, it's just like he got like afflicted with like insane sexual urges, but in the show he's a bit like generally like darker, like a more terrible person, like even minus his sex urge as his last impression we get.
Bankole: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean I think we had something like season one or something where somebody was like Uh, he saved her, but then also like kind of broke her spine or something like that. Along those lines where like, even if he saves you, like there's just a [00:05:00] big kind of collateral damage. Um, well he's played by Derek Wilson, who I knew from Futureman, speaking of, we spoke about Futureman last week.
Um, and I think it was appeared on Preacher, so obviously he's a big Seth Rogen. favorites. But yeah, I don't know who's just like, I just feel like we have to touch on him. Like, I didn't realize until I rewrote the episode, I didn't realize how much, how many times he says the word whole, like he said, like you, when you, when you rewrote the episode, you're like, Oh, he says whole so many random times.
Like even when he, when he's talking to, um, Andrew and he's like, how long have you been eating? Um, golden boy's girlfriend whole and I was like, first of all, I was like, that's a weird way to phrase that statement and then I rewatch I was like, yeah, and I rewatch I was like, oh, that's, that's why he said it like that.
Speaking of Kat and Andre, apparently, so they said it after. So we have our answer to that question. Um, okay. I just want to talk about that. I'm actually very surprised that that's tech nights like that. I knew it wasn't coming, but I didn't know that particular storyline was from the comic.
Bolu: Every insane edgy thing in the [00:06:00] boys, the comic is guaranteed to have a version of that.
And it's likely almost even worse in the comics.
Bankole: So speaking of actually, because you mentioned. Um, last week Lio about how, I think this is maybe, I dunno if it's a storyline or it is own like offshoot comic book, like the whole Gen V thing and the bo and the boys comics, but these characters new for the show.
Yeah. Like Marie, Emma, all of that. The
Bolu: original characters for the most Bo Daisy Gen V. Like, it's actually like a, it's
Bankole: based on arc in the boys. Yeah.
Bolu: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And some of the characters might actually be in the comics, but I think they might've been so like throw away that I didn't really pay attention to them.
Bankole: Hmm. Yeah. Also
TMT: like, sorry, but Gen V is like the boys, all the, they're like, they're written by Garth Edders.
Bankole: Who made preacher, he
TMT: made, he's made some of the most insane stuff. Um, and yeah, but just wherever you get, just take it like that. This is a 53 year old man [00:07:00] and he's kind of my goats at this point.
Who hates everything but, um,
Bankole: yeah. No, continue. Oh, no, I was going to go to talk about Marie and Jordan. Oh, um. I can just mention this now because obviously we talk about, I wanted to have a recurring bit where we do things that we couldn't believe were allowed on TV. My one and only thing for this episode was going to be Coxplosion.
I can't believe. Not only can I believe that that's a thing now, but I can't believe we saw it. So I was thinking, I think we've seen, is it two or three takes we've seen this episode, this show so far?
Bolu: Yeah, something he said the show is going to do is have something related to dicks happening.
Bankole: Yeah. And like, look, there has been no female nudity so far.
So I like the, the, uh, Um, what do you call it? Their insistence on that gender parity against what Game of Thrones set for us. So it's like, we're just going to have all dicks and no female nudity. Uh, but yeah, I couldn't believe that that was like, that we saw it literally explode. All the, yeah, I don't know.
We, if you're listening to this, you want the episode. I don't need to go over it again in detail. Yeah, [00:08:00] I
TMT: mean, can I just say that I feel like Gen V is not the show it thinks it is? Cause, I feel like Gen V comes across as this very like, oh, it's a teen drama comedy type thing. But it's kind of A star. It's like really, really good.
Bankole: And it keeps getting. Oh, so you're saying that it's better than it's better than you think. I think it is. That is, that's a, that's rare
Bolu: boxing into is like, are you, are you like boxing anything? Cause of like, it's in that cause we don't really like rates teen shows in general.
So
Bankole: maybe we're boxing it. I think he's saying, I think he said that the show is boxing itself in ways better than what he wants to box himself into.
Also, you know,
TMT: I'm sure you've, you guys have noticed this, but like a lot of teen shows have them. Pretty solid season ones, like first season come out very strong and then they kind of lose the plot. They kind of almost always lose the plot. I think [00:09:00] the only teen show I can think of that was consistent from start to finish was Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
And even then, it wavered, it wavered a
Bankole: little bit. That's the single reason I didn't watch Riverdale. Like. Because back then I would watch most pilots and most like things that came out. I was like, I was like, I've watched enough of these shows to know that it's going to have a good first season and it's just going to follow, but I don't want to be invested.
Like they always have a very good hook. Like we all, we saw them, Pampadaris, Pretending to be Liars, all of them. They have a great, good to great first season and you're just like, why am I still invested? So I was like, that was the reason I never watched Riverdale. Riverdale had a really
TMT: solid first season as well.
So
Bankole: yeah, you're right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, I don't doubt that. Like, yeah. So that was kind of the reason I was like, I never watched. But yeah, I definitely agree with you. Um, that's interesting. I've never, I've never seen somebody tell a show to be better than what he thinks it is. Like that it's better than what he thinks it is.
That's actually very, that's an interesting compliment. Uh, but no, you're right. I think. Yeah, I think going in thinking it's going to be just a teen show is very [00:10:00] good, actually, because your expectations are just immediately like surprise. And so that was, yeah, like we said last, we didn't know what kind of show was going to be.
And I think we've been just really impressed by how good it's been. Okay. So on Marie and Jordan, Jordan Lee, I kind of saw, I saw the connection growing earlier scenes and I thought, Oh, it was just me being a good TV watch. I was like, Oh, look at me. I'm seeing what the, what the writers are putting down.
And then in the same episode, they like. I was like, Oh, I guess I wasn't, I wasn't as smart as smart as I was. What do you guys think of this, this couple, this relationship? Um, I, I kind
TMT: of saw it, but also like I. I really didn't want it to happen.
Bankole: Hmm, okay.
TMT: Yeah, yeah. Why? I just, I find, I find Jordan very annoying.
Bankole: Yeah. Are they, are they your most annoying character then? Ah,
TMT: I think so. I think Jordan is annoying because [00:11:00] they're like both, they're both like annoying. Separately. Like,
Bankole: that's an incredible attack. It's like, neither, you are two people, but both of them, both of you are annoying because
TMT: she's like, you know, when, um, she's when they're in their female form, it's like the type, a girl that like kind of pisses everyone off.
And yeah, when they're in the middle form, it's like the. Mbo, the Asian jock, .
Bankole: Yeah. I don't think I've, I've seen much, I don't think I know much of the male form's personality. I know enough, which is interesting. 'cause I don't know if Jordan themselves like, prefer to be in the female. I guess they do prefer to be in the female.
Yeah. I think they prefer the female form. Form. Yeah. Yeah. 'cause we very, we very, very rarely get the, the, the male form. And we only see the male form when it's
TMT: like combat or dealing with
Bankole: like Yeah. Or optics. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Optics will be the face of the, of the operation. Yeah.
Bolu: But it does, it does seem [00:12:00] like he's a bit like, um, they don't dislike.
I, I don't know how to describe it. Maybe they do like both personas. I think they might be preference, but like the female, um, personal, but I think that that might also have to do like. Familiar resentment, but I think that might be it.
Bankole: Yeah. Cause I don't think it's a coincidence that I'm assuming, well, based on what their dad said last week, yes.
Before their powers came in, they were in the male form. And now it seems like they're embracing that female form more. Um, actually, cause I want to discuss a point on that in a second. Well, first of all, what are your thoughts on, on this relationship, them coming together, we should, we should, we should make it clear that Marie is not.
She's not excited about this based on how this episode ends so it's not as if they're both smitten um for each other but what do you think
Bolu: of the relationship? The thing is that I do find Jordan kind of annoying but then there were then there were books where I [00:13:00] find them like I find you annoying but I don't hate seeing you on screen.
It's a very rare box that they fit into where like okay this is clearly an annoying character. But, mm-hmm. I've had annoying characters that like, I detested them on screen, like when Jordan comes, I'm like, oh, okay. It's cool. I guess it's Jordan, like, yeah. I think I'm the same Jordan's dynamic. I agree with you.
Jordan plays off very well against the other characters. I think that's their strengths. Mm-hmm. Like they, they kind of annoying, but for the most part, except like the slight antagonism with. Cause of like, you know, ambition, Jordan kind of gets along with everybody. So Jordan's energy doesn't like bring down the show.
So I don't know how Jordan is. The writers knew how to walk the fine line of like, Oh my God. Um, this character is the worst. I don't think Jordan's the worst. Like Jordan's annoying, but that's because Jordan's like the type A person. You know, who like wants to get ahead of everyone. So like, you see the ambition, you kind of get it.
So they're not like, [00:14:00] um, You know, like annoyed you. So, John is not obviously like a bad guy. I mean, an antagonist quote unquote, like that's what I would say. So like, John is still quite likeable in their own weird way. Or at least they're not, um, what's the word? They don't put viewers off.
Bankole: Yeah. And I think maybe we also kind of understand why they have the chip on the shoulder.
Like we get to, we, because I guess, because we've seen two scenes in particular tree, obviously the scene with their parents, but also we see that scene with, um, with the Dean and like the board members saying like, Oh, do we want the by gender Asian to be like the face of rural America? Yeah. So we, I guess we understand that like, they are not just like picking up straws.
Like there's a real, Oh. The reason to be angry. Yes, I guess. Yeah, that's interesting. I don't well, I mean, I definitely agree with you I don't hate any character. So but I don't look at Jordan in an annoying way yet But that's but I was like it's funny that both of [00:15:00] you think that
Bolu: I I like them but like they're still kind of like annoying
TMT: They're like the kind of person that you meet in a friend group and you're like,
Bankole: Oh, we're going to fight.
Aren't we? Yeah. We're not going to spend one on one time together. Are we? Yeah.
Bolu: But we do get along. We all play off well each
Bankole: other. Yeah. Fair. That's fair. Okay. So I did a bit of galaxy braining and anyone has listened to this podcast knows sometimes we do that and we go and we think about things that, um, I don't know if anyone ever did Where they tell you, where your teacher tells you, this is what the author meant, but like, maybe the author just wrote three because he wanted to write three.
But I was thinking about Marie and Jordan. Um, and I think there's two times that we see Jordan and Marie have this kind of emotional connection. Jordan is in, is in a female form, right? This after, after the co explosion and then in Marie's room. But then she, They feel the [00:16:00] need to kind of, like, change to their male form before kissing Marie.
Mm. And I found that interesting. I was like, again, I don't want to backseat therapise. It was just, it was interesting to me that, like, they felt that need to do that. Actually, because we know that, like we said, The female version is the one they prefer and all the interactions they've had with Marie have been with the female version.
But then you now juxtapose that with the end of the episode when they are in their female version with Marie in bed. Almost maybe like, I don't know, their defenses have been shut down or like they're a lot more comfortable now. I don't know. I just, that was a bit of a galaxy. I was like, Oh, why did they feel the need to?
Because it's a conscious decision, right? That they choose to change to the male version before kissing Marie. Yeah. I mean, going back to Bullu's earlier point. I really, like,
TMT: I don't hate seeing them on screen, so like, if there's, if like, A, um, subplot of the entire show is like, um, exploring Jordan's,
Bankole: um, [00:17:00] identity, you know,
TMT: gender or sexual or otherwise, it would be fun, I would watch it, it would be, it would be a fun little thing to like keep track of and like, oh, okay, she's, he's doing this, she's doing this, they're doing this, okay, like, okay, I see what's happening here, you know.
That would be a fun thing to like kind of monitor with this show. But yeah, I hear what you're saying. This is very interesting. The choices they're making when they're dealing with people.
Bankole: Um, but Lou, any thoughts on that? You don't have to have any thoughts.
Bolu: I think there's probably validity to that because, um, I think again, um, Jordan's still struggling with like approval from people and he's probably thinking that, okay, um, Mary might like me more in my male form in general.
Yeah, so that might actually be it like it's the more defensive like maybe unconsciously she just thinks like oh marina would like me more like even without like even thinking about it too hard just jumping straight in [00:18:00] that form as a form of like you know because there's a lot for there's a lot of reasons why they feel um defensive because as we saw like um golden boy wasn't that much stronger That jordan like they were probably even like probably like roughly equals just that like Golden boy was like really trying because he was like pissed off and stuff like that.
Yeah, and So like I think there was there was a concert like, you know, um, they were probably always in the ballpark, but that they could never get over the hump because They were who they were.
Bankole: I mean, on that your point, sorry to cut you off, but like, the odds are that they were probably better than Golden Boy.
Because like, if they were second, like, do you get what I mean? Like, if they were second, despite all the hindrances that they had. Yeah. So maybe like, really they should have been first. But like, this guy's like, we can only push you down as far as second actually, so like, we're just gonna make you second.
Maybe they were actually meant to be [00:19:00] first. Um, do we think Mary was a
Bolu: virgin? I have no idea. Because I thinking, oh, she ever been intimate with anyone else? Like did she ever been intimate with someone before? Well, she
Bankole: went from when she got her period to the boarding house. And I guess obviously there, there other people there, but I don't know if everybody's just not stable.
I guess maybe, I think, I think like the, the period thing
TMT: was so traumatic. I wouldn't be surprised if she was a virgin.
Bolu: Like, like she didn't get intimidated other people. Yeah.
Bankole: Yeah. I'm surprised if that's like, I'm like, I don't know if she would necessarily, it doesn't look like she found love in the boarding house or even like any kind of connection in those five years.
So like, um, yeah, surprised if that was, I have something to show you guys. Okay. I'm going to see it. Yes. It's
TMT: the name of the person delivering my
Bankole: food. Can you see it? Oh my god.
Well, Ryder. Oh, Preacher. You
Bolu: guys are hilarious. [00:20:00]
Bankole: That's the craziest name. That's the craziest name, yeah. Wait, so how far away is that food? Let me see. It's
TMT: in the second roundabout, so it should take about 20 to 30
Bankole: minutes. So if you guys just randomly stop here in TMT just know that he's left us to go and eat.
Okay, um. Collect the food, man. Let's, let's go to the end. Let's go to the end of the episode. Cause I, I honestly, in my head, I just earmarked Marie and Jordan at the end. I want to talk about maybe the fight if we want to, before we go into like actual how the episode ends in Marie's bedroom. How do you feel about the fights on this show in general?
I really liked the golden boy and um, Jordan one in episode one. That did nothing for me.
TMT: I
Bankole: guess. Maybe, maybe it was because the first time I was seeing their powers. I think it kind
Bolu: of got stronger as the episode progressed though. Some of the action, but. I think boys has a certain style of action going for it.
Yeah. Try Gen V
Bankole: like [00:21:00] big swings,
Bolu: big swing. Like it kind of works like the action style that this is definitely at the boys universe.
TMT: Yeah.
Bankole: Yeah. I mean, when, when Sam knocks out Andre, I felt that in my, in my sleep. I was like, Oh boy. Oh yeah. I should just go take a nap. Andre like, are you sure you You're ready for that.
Um, well, okay. Well, what are your own thoughts on the fight tmt? Uh, wait, what's our andre's powers? He's uh magneto.
Bolu: Is it just magnetism? I think you have super strength I think he's general like enhanced strength like he's He's much stronger and tougher than the top human. But I think Jordan, um, what's the brother's name again?
Sam. Sam and Goldie boy are like, I think they're like, it's still like a level above him in strength. But I think he also has like telekinesis. Cause remember he, he, he was like, he was like living like glass. So it's not just like regular. Well, when he do glass, it was not glass in episode. Was it just the metal?
Bankole: No, no, it was a [00:22:00] coin. No, it was because it was a coin now. So it was metal. Yeah, it turned into a bird. It kind of looked glassy. You're right. You're right. Look glassy. But I think it was definitely metal. Oh, I think he's only metal right now. I think so. Actually, speaking of powers, we saw what we theorized last week.
We saw Marie control somebody's blood inside their body. So, like Marie is only growing, Marie's powers are only growing. Yeah, Marie has
Bolu: shut up the totem pole of like, of what she could be. Yeah,
Bankole: and she said that that was the first time she was doing it. So, so we know that like, have you guys, bloodbending is coming.
Has anyone here seen Mozart in the jungle? No. No, I didn't. Oh man,
TMT: is there a reference
Bolu: for that? You told me to watch that years ago. I remember you actually mentioning
Bankole: that years back. What's the comparison? How we, explain.
TMT: Cause, um, what's his name, Gail Garcia? Is that his name? Yeah,
Bankole: when he's basically
TMT: he, um, he's like this super maestro and he has this, um, like third rates.
Her [00:23:00] name is Haley Rothridge and no one can understand why he's hired her. Because they're much better over us in the city. And his answer is always, she plays with the blood. She plays with the blood because he's like, he's Mexican. So his English is imperfect, but it's pretty good. So he's trying to say she plays with passion.
And I think the translation in like Spanish is, you know, she plays with blood. And so he's like, she plays with the blood with the blood. Yeah, so that's That's
Bankole: okay. I was wondering where you got there, but that, that makes sense. Well done. You made, you made that comment, uh, ish. But yeah, no, so obviously Mary, Mary's powers are growing.
She's now controlling people's blood inside their body and exploding dicks. So that was interesting. Um, Emma becomes giant man. Yeah. that coming. I kind of figured that
Bolu: if she can go small, like for her to hang, I figured like there's going to have to be a way for her to like protect herself. Yeah,
Bankole: yeah.
She has to have some actual fight competency. Yeah, that [00:24:00] makes sense.
TMT: And what makes it better is like, she does like this whole entertainment wrestling thing in her tiny form, which I think is really dope experience for her fighting in a larger form.
Bolu: It's also interesting. Like she's literally the one who doesn't know, like how tough she is or like how like, because of like things that have been done to her, like, again, it shows like, you know, how your family can drag you down and like how society can like box you in and it's like, she's like, I'm like, wow, she's just as.
Like we just small things all that. Oh, wow. She can go with the best of them as we've seen and it's just because you know, she had resigned that fact that her miniature form made a bit of like a bit of a joke related to superheroes Mm hmm. And it didn't help that the previous small character we saw in the boys was also a bit of like a guy character So it's a nice flip on the head that oh, no, she's like that [00:25:00] actually like she's also very brave Granted she was high but she's also like very brave and she's like caring Yeah, so like she's she's
Bankole: I think Emma has run away with it, right?
Like we all just love Emma at this point. Four episodes, halfway through the season, like she's just the favourite character.
TMT: I mean, I didn't like what she did with Sam when she lied to him about his brother. But beyond that, she's alright. Okay. I would have liked to, I would have liked to, cause that's it, I got it, yeah, I got it, Sam is like insane, so like, I get her like,
Bankole: yeah, like, and in her defense she told him at the first possible opportunity, yeah, true, like literally the first time she could, like, she can't tell him the truth when she's trying to, cause he's not going to escape, he's not, he's going to stay there, so like, I got it, I understand, yeah, I know.
Um, speaking of Sam, obviously Sam wants to go kill the doctor, and then that's why they all meet up, Dr. Cardoso, that's why they all meet up at the house. We've discussed like the fight, I just want to shout out the way Chance Perdomo changes his voice, where like, when he's shouting, you can go back and listen to just the way he makes his voice, want to [00:26:00] sound deeper, it's just funny to me.
Um, okay, so let's go to the end, the final scene with Marie and...
Bolu, don't answer this question because you've watched episode 5. Whaaat? So I guess this is just, TMT and I. Yeah, fair. TMT, was that just an, a cool editing trick? Or is that meant to reference what happens with the, um, the psychic earlier in the episode? Like, are we meant to believe that maybe he is involved somehow?
Um,
TMT: I don't know. I don't think he's involved. I feel like the boys like this university, they don't try and do too much murder mystery piecing things together. And I don't think they're really about that. I think it's a very, it's a dog fight show. You know, a bunch of people are just knowing that each other.
You're not really sure who's going to win. And I think that's the beauty in this universe. So yeah, I think it was a nice little
Bankole: one [00:27:00] on one. So we think it was just an Edison trick? Nothing, nothing there. Okay, we'll see. I guess we'll find out next week. We shall.
TMT: Happy Independence Day.
Bolu: Oh, cool.
Bankole: As in like, okay.
Cool. I'm not going to lie to you, I might cut that out. I might cut it out.
Oh my god. Um, okay. Like, I think we will soon wrap up, but I have a question I want to talk to you guys about, again, a bit of galaxy braining, um, because we're not going to have any podcast, if not, let's do it. Somebody, somebody put a comment on our first episode, because I like to label the episodes as reactions, not reviews.
That's a whole different thing about my own, like, imposter syndrome or whatever, my cycling reviews. You lie. And, not really lie, I just like, I feel like review gives it. sense of, you know, we're not going to listen to a therapy session. Anyway, I get a critic. Is that what you're saying? Yes. Yes. And I don't feel like I, [00:28:00] or we have earned that.
Anyway, so he puts, uh, this is, he, he, sorry, not he, they put, I don't know, male or female, but they put, um, in the comments, this is a review, not a reaction episode. And I will, I'm, I'm not too sure, like, if they meant as a compliment or Like as chastising us, by the way. . Yeah. So, no, I think it's a,
TMT: I I I don't think it's a
Bankole: compliment,
TMT: I don't think it's because I love reviews. I like, my favorite thing in the world is when I watch something and I really like it, or I
Bolu: really hate it. I think he came for a, I think he came for a reaction and he, what do you call it?
TMT: Yeah.
Bankole: You didn't want all this kind of galaxy said, maybe I'll start calling.
Exactly. No, but Tim saying, when you watch something, you love it and you go listen
TMT: to it. Watch. Yeah. When I hit or love, watch something. I just want to be validated. So I got to look for someone else's
Bankole: reaction to it. I mean, I'm not going to lie to you. That's kind of why we, we did this. Uh, why I started this.
It's just because like, Bulu are you laughing because Bulu [00:29:00] is laughing because they're particular. I don't understand.
TMT: Tough scene, brother. You're in the UK, like your life is good. Why is this bringing you pleasure?
Bankole: What kind of sick,
TMT: what kind of
Bolu: sick. I'm a nice person. I'm a good person.
TMT: The way I saw it, like I never, like I never claimed to be a good person.
Bankole: He was like, look, I like, this is who I am.
TMT: Oh my God.
Bankole: Fair enough. Um, no, that's kind of the reason why I studied this. Cause I was like, I would watch something and enjoy it. And before we have to, I used to talk to many of you, but then as people go by distance and you go to watch or listen to reactions or reviews and it was like it became a bit too stodgy like it became like they were just being quite impartial which is obviously good.
For someone like me because I want to learn critically, but at the same time like I also want fans to talk about why they like something or why they hate something. So that's kind of a long story, but that's kind of how we started doing this. Anyway, my point. Oh yes, Galaxy Brainiac. [00:30:00] Um, so obviously I know TMZ doesn't think any of these characters are good.
Quote on quote. So I'll try not to call them good. Um, but I think we can agree that they are trying to do good things. Or at least, even if that's what they think, right? Especially someone like, um, Andre. He thinks he's a hero and he's doing heroic things. And I'm wondering if that's connected to the fact that, like, these are the first guys that, like, know they were injected with V.
Yeah. Yeah. Every other set of heroes or whatever, they like, we're gods. We're special. Like it came to us. And I guess it's like, we know our parents inject us with V. Most of them for money. And I don't know if that gives them a sense of like, okay, maybe if I have this. Gifts, not in the, gifts, not in the previous sense, but gifts are like, I have this thing.
Maybe I should actually use it for good. Yeah. And I'm sure obviously that we know that many of them that use it for terrible things. We've seen the one that rapes people this episode alone. So, but I don't know. if these characters that we're following, I don't know if [00:31:00] that is connected to They know they were given this V by their parents and now they want to try and do something with it.
Like, I don't know. I don't know if that makes sense or I just like, Oh, there has to be a reason because these are the first guys to know. I think it's
TMT: a metaphor for like actual, like for like actual Gen Z's knowing and being aware much earlier than we were of the fact that like the world doesn't really work in the way we think it does.
Like capitalism has destroyed everything and there aren't enough high paying jobs and there isn't enough to go around like we knew in university, but I feel like these guys are thinking about it in high school, maybe. Like college. Yeah, like just like, like they, they know. So I think like that knowledge are forbidden.
Knowledge and what happens when, like this generation, this really young generation have access to that information and how does it fuck with their psyches and you know, It's a,
Bankole: it's a really, really dope premise that's yeah. I mean, I [00:32:00] didn't think of that metaphor. That's the producers
Bolu: are writing that down.
Bankole: Like we didn't know we meant that, but
no, I think
Bolu: they are. I'll give him
Bankole: that. But yeah, I mean, I guess. Okay. So I guess thanks for making my galaxy brain. Thoughts make some more sense. I got you bro. Um, but yeah, I mean, this is, we are at the halfway point. This is literally the mid season episode. It's kind of like table setting and we'll see what comes, what happens in the next few.
Um, we have screeners for the next two up to, up to six. So obviously those episodes will arrive on time. I don't know about seven and eight. Seven and eight might be a bit late if we don't get screeners for those episodes. Um, yeah, I heard it. Bolu, um, any thoughts before we wrap up?
Bolu: Um, so far, I'm really enjoying the show.
It's better than I expected it to be [00:33:00] overall. Um, I would say it's the case where like the MC is not my favorite character, but like so far I'm enjoying it. Um, I think, I keep forgetting his name though. That's the funny thing. Uh, Golden Boy's brother. Sam. Oh,
Bankole: Sam.
Bolu: Sam. I think Sam is like the most compelling character for me.
And I kind of like that. While he does feel like a B. O. B. I like his character so far. Mhm.
Bankole: I mean, I don't think that is like, I don't think it's coincidental that he's paired. With Emma. I think that helps us like, like the character more. Um, yeah, I mean, yeah, like I said, halfway point, things are kind of table setting.
We've kind of, it's literally just the second week because obviously the first three came out in the first week. Um, anything? Let them cook. Let, let, literally let them cook. Anything apart from Coxplosion that you guys are surprised was allowed on TV? Well,
TMT: I mean, it's not really TV, is it, darling?
Bankole: [00:34:00] Yeah, and I
TMT: think Jeff Bezos is quite okay with anything that lent him prestige and money, anything that gets him tickets to the Golden Globe.
That, that,
Bankole: you're 100 percent correct. So, um, yeah, I think he loves this show. Um, okay, does anyone have anything they want to say? Theories? Expectations next few weeks, if not, I'm
Bolu: sorry. I don't know. I don't know if this is just like a random segment. Is there ever going to pursue that, um, peak thing in uni superhero?
Fair. If a hero like that is ever going to show up, like a person that was meant to be like the guy, but like he never really gets it together. Lamplighter. No, but Lamplighter did actually like. Like that man actually did join the seven, he then fell off.
Bankole: Honestly, I think, I think the game is so rigged for superheroes that like that version of [00:35:00] that person is probably the deep.
Because I think if you excel in, if you excel in uni. In college, you just have to get something you have to have, even if it's just a city, like, so unless someone, unless it's the version of that would be someone that peaked in high school, which I don't think is really possible. I think, I think,
TMT: I think that, you know, like vigilante or hero that was harassing the one that A Train killed.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That guy. I think that guy peaked in high school and only high school.
Bankole: Yes, I don't, like, how did he even get that C3? Yeah, I don't know, man. Yeah, something like that. I don't, I think if you, if you pig in uni, you, you just get too big a job. And then, like, you can be the deep and be the shit and still just be in the seven.
TMT: Or you can be a homelander and excel at the job or lose anything that makes you, like, a person with
Bankole: a soul. Yeah, I mean, so Homelander is like, what, Homelander [00:36:00] went straight from high school or did he didn't go to, wait, how, how did he, how did he get drafted? He was grown in, yeah,
that's true, so the soldier boy, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. So it's funny because on the Amazon prime page, the prime video page, they say, Oh, a train. I think he finished first or second, whatever in his class, joined the thing. They were like Queen Maeve finished first or second or whatever, got drafted. And they're like, the deep also went to Kadokian University.
And he went to some classes.
TMT: I think the deep power, I think his power set is just so solid that he can get through either way, but I don't think he cares about, or he just hasn't, he had any interest in. But he's a
Bankole: broken man. I mean he's a broken man. Yeah, he's a broken man, truly. And there are other, there are other schools for, it's not just Good Oaken,
there are other schools. it's better than we thought it was going to be. Um, [00:37:00] and we'll be back. I think we'll be back next week. We'll be back the week after that. And hopefully we'll the final two. Um, and then prime video is keeping us fed between the ending of the year. Cause this ends invincible comes back for four episodes.
I think so.
Bolu: Special was really good. When I was saying that, like,
TMT: yeah, I love the,
Bankole: but just like. I don't know. It's one of those things like invisible. Are they going to bring us a bad episode? Probably not. I'm just like, okay. Like I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't critique it. I just watch it. Like I'm not, I'm not saying good or bad.
Cause it's just going to be good. The
Bolu: source material is like, unlike the boys, I would say like that source material is much stronger and they seem to like all the. Issues from back then. I like maybe some of the things I need is very well. They've kind of like they're fixing it. Yeah. So it's overall, I think it would be very hard for invincible to not be good.
Yeah, but yeah, but I back to the boy. JV is a very good spin off. I'd recommend it to people who like [00:38:00] the boys in general. I like the boy. Check out JV. It's all the cast, like all your people. I'm just as much
TMT: as I can go And God saved the queen. My foot is here. One second.
Bankole: We managed to, I thought it was going to be worse than that.
I thought we'd come like halfway through the recording. So we managed to do it well in time. Um, Blue team, thank you guys for coming back.
TMT: Thank you for having us, man. We loved doing the show.
Bankole: And I'm glad it's a great show that we're covering. I
Bolu: might have dropped out if you, if it's done, but it's good.
Bankole: Well, thank you for being honest. Um, but yeah, um, guys, thank you very much. Um, thank you for listening. Please, please, please rate and review. If you didn't have been on the episode, please do it now. Spotify, the stars are right there. I will podcast, just leave a review. TMT will tell you those things really, really, really help us kind of like break through the algorithm.
Yep. They go a long way. Um, yeah, check out TMT's Submaruja episode last week. So, and even this week's one with Carlos is out as well. Please check out [00:39:00] Bulu on Twitter at Bulu underscore AY. I don't think he has any podcast yet. Well, you don't want your Twitter out
TMT: there. But he has a beard. He has a beard.
He has a beautiful beard and a banging body. Bro, tell them about yourself now. Come on.
Bolu: This guy actually stumps me.
Bankole: This just became Hinge from nowhere. I don't think
Bolu: this guy has me stumped. I was not ready for that. But thank you, Tim. He's
TMT: physically, he's a tank. He's physically like, he's built like a fucking like weightlifter, man.
Bankole: I'm not, I'm not a fan of you. Um, what's the word? Just taking over the ends of all of these episodes. I'm making them so much part two. I don't, I don't, I don't like how you've done these two, two episodes. It's
TMT: very easy. You're, you're very accommodating.
Bankole: That's the problem. Yeah, because I don't want to like, as a host, I want to let you run.
I don't like to stop the guest and then I'm like, Oh shit, I should have stopped him. I should have stopped him when I had the chance. But no, no, [00:40:00] thank you very much. Thank you guys for coming. I'll be back next week talking about Gen V Episode 5. And we'll be joined by Oscar winner, Daniel Kaluuya.
TMT: Gen V V, right?
Cause 5 is V.
Bankole: Yes. Yes. Yes. Bye guys. Okay. Bye. Bye.
And God save the Queen. My food is here,
TMT: one
Bankole: second. Oh my God.
Bolu: Hello? How are you? Good evening. What's up?
Bankole: Is this Peter? Yeah? Is this
TMT: Peter? Peter, yes. Hey, my man, how are you? What do you mean by that? Tell them you're going to apartments. Tell them you're going to apartments. Give them the phone. This is terrible.
You're bleeping this
Bankole: one, by the way. I'm bleeping your address, yes. But this is going to, this is going on the episode. It's going to the end of the episode. So hello. Hello. Oh
TMT: God. I think he's just parking his bike right now.
Bankole: All right. I think that's a good, I think we can end the episode [00:41:00] there. All right.
Hey, how far
TMT: have I sent him to episode, um, E2. Yeah. Thank you. Show him the way, please. Thank you.