Dog Walk Confidential Podcast

Can you really bring your dog everywhere? Not really. Dane and Steve explain why.

What is Dog Walk Confidential Podcast?

Secret stories about dog walking from dog owners and their dogs. Caution: there will be explicit language of poop and other things.

Dane Golden: This is the Dog Walk Confidential podcast. My name is Dane Golden, here with Steve Goers. Welcome Steve.

Steve Goers: Hello, Dane. A pleasure to be here.

Dane Golden: So this is the podcast about walking your dog that you listen to while you're walking your dog.

Steve Goers: Multitasking. Multitasking, right? Who has time to do both,

Dane Golden: your topic that you said we should cover today is, can I bring my dog? And.

Steve Goers: right?

Dane Golden: You know, as we've, I mean, this happened before the

Steve Goers: Mm-hmm.

Dane Golden: definitely after the pandemic when everyone got dogs,

Steve Goers: Oh, right,

Dane Golden: you feel like wherever you are, your dog should be coming along, but that's not always, always true.

So give me an for example.

Steve Goers: well, you know, first of all, you know, just as, as much as you need to know yourself, yeah. You need to know your dog, right? Is your dog, you know?

Dane Golden: honest

Steve Goers: Right.

Let's be honest with yourself, you know, a. Is your dog friendly? B, is your dog nice around other people? And three, do you ever take your dog out in public?

All right, so all of those are true for me and my Bernese Mountain dog, Johnny Appleseed. And if we had some applause, you know, a little yay.

Dane Golden: Uhhuh

Steve Goers: is, you know, I got a dogs.

Dane Golden: amiable.

Steve Goers: Very good. That's, that's a good one. Johnny. You know, I got a dog so I could take it places. Right. I didn't want a dog where it's like, oh, I can't take him because he is just horrible.

Or, or you can't come over because my dog, or, you know, whatever. So.

Dane Golden: Let's talk about some specific places. Are we talking about the coffee shop? Are we talking about fine

dining?

Steve Goers: right, right. So

yeah.

Dane Golden: where are you bringing it?

Steve Goers: So we just got done, with football and, I'm a coach from with, for my son's football team. And so Johnny comes along, you know, and I took him inside the stadium, the high school stadium where, you know, blatantly says no dogs allowed. You know, it's so, so I walk right past it.

But, you know, there's like, you know, a handful of people there, you know, we're coaching, you know, it's, it's cool. So I bring Johnny there and he just sits.

Dane Golden: not a high school

Steve Goers: Right. No, this, this is practice. Nobody's there. You know, Johnny walks in, he sits down, chills, the kids come over, you know, they pat him, you know? Great.

Okay, cool. The next day I bring Johnny in there and now there's this person not going to say who it is. You know who you are. They bring their little yippy dog and this dog is like, you know, the whole time. And I'm like, and then people are just like looking at them. And then now. I'm so, you know, guilty by association.

I'm, I'm now the zipper dog, you know? And then it's like, why do you do this? And so all of a sudden that night there comes an email, just a reminder, folks, no dogs are allowed inside the stadium. Boom. Why do I get penalized? Because your dog is mis, is misbehaving, right?

Dane Golden: Mm-hmm.

Steve Goers: One person ruins it for all.

Dane Golden: so, I. I want to talk about Thanksgiving as we're recording. Thanksgiving's coming up, to be at the cousin's house now. They have a dog. I have a dog. a long drive. We're going to be there a long time. I can't leave the dog alone for that amount of time, so dog is going to come, but the dog's going to stay in my van for that period of time Now.

It's not going to be

Steve Goers: Does your van have windows or no windows?

Dane Golden: yeah, it's very cool. Generally this time of year, I am in California part of the year, and during this time of year it's usually, you know, in the, around 62 degrees, cloudy, windy, whatever. And I, know, dog can stay in there very, very comfortable. And if it's cool in there, she's totally fine. I can't bring the dog in. Because the dog of the house doesn't like my

Steve Goers: Oh yeah. Yep.

Dane Golden: of the house is

Steve Goers: Ugh.

Dane Golden: except when there is any other dogs,

Steve Goers: That's how I feel about, my ex-wife. No, I'm just kidding. I,

Dane Golden: Uhhuh.

Steve Goers: I'm not, I'm not divorced.

Dane Golden: huh. So, so anyway, my dog will, I, I reserve, I say, listen, can I have the driveway to park in so I don't have to hike and my dog doesn't have to bark up the

Steve Goers: Mm-hmm.

Dane Golden: you know? And then I go, I go out every couple of hour, every hour or 45 minutes. Hey, how you doing? How's the water? What's the

Steve Goers: Yeah.

Dane Golden: in here?

But I'm, I'm keenly, I don't know about you, because leaving a dog in the

Steve Goers: Mm.

Dane Golden: On a hot day is

greatest defense.

Steve Goers: absolutely.

Dane Golden: so, but leaving a dog in a car on a cold day is for dog owners. They're like, that's absolutely no problem whatsoever. Even, if it's a super cold day, your dog's going to be just

Steve Goers: Just, just fine. Yep, yep.

Dane Golden: so, you know, and they, she, she has her own little nest back there. Plenty of space, plenty of blankets.

Steve Goers: Of course. Of course.

Dane Golden: And, anyway, so, you know, if I'm going to, if I go to a, you know, a high school or college basketball

Steve Goers: Yeah.

Dane Golden: where I have a relative playing and I drive a long way, I'm fine with leaving the dog out there in the parking

Steve Goers: Yeah.

Dane Golden: For an hour and I come out and during halftime or

Steve Goers: Right. So you're,

Dane Golden: totally

Steve Goers: so you're at Thanksgiving.

Dane Golden: Yeah,

Steve Goers: You got you. You got the dog and they had the dog. You brought the dog. Now what? Now what you did? Did you know this was a problem before you, you showed up?

Dane Golden: this, this happens every

Steve Goers: Okay.

Dane Golden: So I

Steve Goers: That's awesome.

Dane Golden: dog is gentle when they got a gentle

Steve Goers: Uhhuh,

Dane Golden: that this would be great because I could just bring

my

Steve Goers: finally we got a solution to the problem. Gentle dog. Yeah.

Dane Golden: but also gentle slash territorial dog and just can't permit any other dogs. So, but I have to, you know, it's going to be a full day on the trip and I just can't, leave the

Steve Goers: Oh yeah. Yep.

Dane Golden: the, that's the situation. Now. I am not insisting my dog come in. My dog is just fine. I just need the parking space in the, in the driveway. Now if I would insist that my dog came in and then their dog is losing its shit, now we

Steve Goers: Oh yeah.

Dane Golden: we will. We will say shit on this podcast a lot poop

Steve Goers: Okay.

Dane Golden: We're going to say 'em all. is a one of those podcasts that has the E for language. So,

Steve Goers: I thought it was E for exciting. That's what I thought it was.

Dane Golden: Yeah, so, if I was insisting my dog came in and then we had, you know, five hours of yapping of their dog, my dog's going to be fine except running away from their dog, even though their dog is a fourth, the size of mine.

Steve Goers: It's all about the intimidation factor. That's, that's kind of how I roll.

Dane Golden: So, so yeah. What about other places that you might bring your dog? Now I, when I'm in Portland. I have a coffee shop I go to almost

Steve Goers: Mm-hmm.

Dane Golden: and a lot of people bring in their dogs.

Steve Goers: At the donut shop this morning. the, this gentleman brings a dog.

Dane Golden: tell you why,

Steve Goers: What?

Dane Golden: and tell me about the

Steve Goers: Well, I was just, I was just making a comment. It's very common that, but I do like that, that, you know, this donut shop in town, this guy always brings his, German Shepherd in there. Beautiful dog. The dog just sits down and chill.

I think he's a vet, and so he's always funny. He's always on the phone talking to somebody and this dog is just sitting there, just hanging out and just, you know, people come and go, you know, just hanging. So. You know, that's great. I haven't seen any other animals in there, but again, that does not give everybody permission to bring your Yippy, yappy dog or anything else in that store just because you see somebody else doing it.

No shame.

Dane Golden: like, it's like Lycra. Not everyone has permission to wear it.

Steve Goers: You can't un you can't,

Dane Golden: don't wear it. I don't have permission.

Steve Goers: people don't understand that you can't unsee things. You know, our brains are wired that, you know, you, you, you, it's it's the train wreck, you know?

Dane Golden: I would be very reticent to bring if I had a German shepherd, not because it is necessarily a mean dog, but people can be very afraid of German shepherds. It depends on their nature, but I

Steve Goers: it's, go ahead.

Dane Golden: am always very conscious, or I try to be about people who are afraid of dogs. Rationally or not, they just may not have experience

Steve Goers: Mm-hmm.

Dane Golden: with

Steve Goers: I don't trust anybody that's afraid of a dog unless they've gotten attacked by one. But that is almost like the risk that you take bringing your dog out in public because it's, it's not like bringing a loaded gun, but. I don't want to say, you know, I never want to be that person where it's like, oh, I can't, be my, my dog's never done that before.

You know? Like, that's why I'm always conscious with my dog, you know, I'm, you know, Johnny I always got him on a leash, you know, when he needs to be, you know, if any kids are coming up to him, you know, because he a green's mountain dog, you know, he just wants, you know, people love petting that dog. Yeah.

Dane Golden: enormous.

Steve Goers: And they love, you know, give him hugs, you know, petting him and, you know, he's, he's really good, but. You know how kids are poking him in the face or just somebody. But my Bernese Mountain dog before that, Mallory, she was, she, she was freaked out by little kids because I think they were scared, you know?

and she sensed that, and it made her uncomfortable.

Dane Golden: Yeah, so I, in Portland, I live in a, sort of a downtown area. Not quite, but it's a urban area where there's lots of people have dogs, but also. There's lots of people that don't, and kind of have a sixth sense of someone who's into dogs and someone who's not. So you're walking down a crowded, crowded street. I can tell from 50 feet if this person wants to avoid the dog, love the dog, or doesn't see the

Steve Goers: Oh yeah. Yeah.

Dane Golden: And, and I think it's common, for people who have grown up around the world who don't have the dog culture that we have, that they just don't understand. so if someone from a different country or a different part of, the country where there's not a lot of dogs, so they just didn't grow up with them. Some people will like, I don't know if you notice it, but they'll just really look away. Like

Steve Goers: I want anything to do with it.

Dane Golden: No, but it's just there's, they're not telling you, but they're quite scared.

Steve Goers: Yeah, well, dogs can be unpredictable and just like people like horses. I don't trust a horse. I do not trust a horse. I would never,

Dane Golden: don't know anything

Steve Goers: I don't, well, I man, you want to get kicked by that thing, you know? That's, that,

that's totally what I think of. I'm like, I'm like, there just could be so unpredictable, you know?

Dane Golden: Mm-hmm.

Steve Goers: I'd rather, I feel like I'd trust an elephant more than a horse.

I don't know why.

Dane Golden: have to

Steve Goers: I don't know why.

Dane Golden: remembered a story. very sadly. My dad had to go to the emergency room a couple years ago, and, I, my mom and I went with him I did not bring my dog.

Steve Goers: Mm-hmm.

Dane Golden: The dog was

Steve Goers: Mm-hmm.

Dane Golden: However, you know, you're sitting there and there's other, like, people behind curtains and

Steve Goers: Mm-hmm.

Dane Golden: You're going to love this. So the woman next to us like fell down her stairs. Okay. She was

Steve Goers: I do love this story. No, I'm just kidding.

Dane Golden: a grand. Yeah. This is the best one. A I think she a grandmother who fell down her stairs and

she

Steve Goers: Okay.

Dane Golden: she was fine, but she was severely injured. Like she wasn't dead, but she was cognizant and so forth. But, but her son comes in with two. Enormous, yellow labs. Okay. That says not one

Steve Goers: Not the, not the calmest dogs either.

Dane Golden: to, to a busy, a

Steve Goers: Oh man,

Dane Golden: emergency room now.

Steve Goers: what?

Dane Golden: And they both said, you know, service dog all over

Steve Goers: Oh, of course. Oh my

Dane Golden: and. I'm thinking, okay, now I had to walk by someone in a gurney who someone was sitting on top of giving,

Steve Goers: Right,

Dane Golden: heart pressure

Steve Goers: right.

Dane Golden: I had to walk around them in the hallway.

Okay, so this is a busy thing. I mean, it's very sad for that

Steve Goers: Yeah.

Right.

Dane Golden: Now here comes

this guy.

Steve Goers: Clear. Clear.

Dane Golden: Now, now he's got, he's being trailed by a police officer, a security guard, a

nurse,

Steve Goers: goodness. Oh my goodness.

Dane Golden: because they're like, we don't know what's up with this

Steve Goers: Yeah.

Dane Golden: Why does he feel the need? Now, I will say that these dogs were beautiful and the calmest dogs I have ever seen, but the dog owner. Was having a major issue. And, and so it became, can, why are you guys following me? Can't I bring dogs in? Do you hate dogs?

Steve Goers: it was me versus the dog. Dog shaming. Dog shaming, dog shaming.

Dane Golden: And, and, and, and then like he's calling, he, he's like calling for like, they send him out and he's calling from the parking lot to his mom on, it's on speaker phone.

He's like, they don't like dogs. They discriminate against dogs. What's the problem with dogs? And the doctor comes in and he's got like 90 seconds,

Steve Goers: Yeah. Oh yeah.

Dane Golden: woman who now we're concerned that you may have a concussion, and a broken leg. You know, she's, you know, really we're talking about will she ever walk again? And she's now saying, but what's the issue with the dogs? Why won't you allow dogs? Do you, my son wants to bring the dogs in. What are we going to do? He's

Steve Goers: Oh,

Dane Golden: listen,

Steve Goers: ma, I'm sorry.

Dane Golden: about the

Steve Goers: What?

Dane Golden: want,

Steve Goers: Where does that.

Dane Golden: we really should focus on your concussion and your broken

Steve Goers: Where does that conversation come up? Like, ma MA's in hospital. Alright. Who's getting the dogs? Like, you know, is that like the first thing outta their mind, you know, like, son, you can't, I just fell down the stairs, but can you just, can you just get the dogs? Can you bring the dogs for me? You know,

Dane Golden: They're not her dogs. They're not her.

Steve Goers: they're not even her dogs.

Dane Golden: dogs.

Steve Goers: her dogs, it's just.

Dane Golden: But anyway, so the guy was in with the dogs. He

was

Steve Goers: Oh my gosh.

Dane Golden: and, and my dad's

Steve Goers: my gosh.

Dane Golden: had to stay in the hospital a couple days. And the

next

Steve Goers: Incredible.

Dane Golden: over there. There's the guy outside the hospital with his

Steve Goers: There's two dogs, not one service dog. Two.

Dane Golden: too service,

Steve Goers: That's like, that's like taking, you know, like, you know, here's my prescription for this. Well, I, I double it. You know, like he's got like two. He's got a service dog for the service dog.

Dane Golden: now lovely dogs. was not. Pleased with the, the dog owner. So, and neither was the hospital and I really did have to like, you know, how you're walking down a hospital corridor. I mean, that hasn't happened to me a lot, but to really run into a gurney that's in the middle, just filling up the middle of the hallway with somebody on top of it, pounding on some guy's heart, and I am like. What is my, what is my job here? I, I need to leave the hospital. I, I try to squeeze by? Because you don't want to get in the

Steve Goers: Excuse me. Yeah.

Dane Golden: do I? Am I looking for another exit? Do I walk out the back of the

Steve Goers: Oh, and the,

Dane Golden: 10 minutes?

Steve Goers: yeah. Yeah.

Dane Golden: meanwhile, this guy's insisting his dogs are around in this situation,

Steve Goers: just, it's, it's just absolutely incredible. I don't like, think, think about the dogs, like, you know, nobody's thinking about like, how embarrassing for those dogs. Those, those dogs are probably like, you know how you can't pick your parents, you know, dogs, they cannot pick their owners. And I wonder if it's like, man, I do not want or going to the hospital again, or all these looks people are giving us, you know, what do you do?

Dane Golden: you, you watch those videos of the dogs that talk, that have the buttons that, where they, have you heard of this?

Steve Goers: No, I mean, I've seen the movie up, but with those dogs talk, yeah.

Dane Golden: so there is a group of dogs and it was a, invented, it was essentially invented by this woman who wrote a book called Stella, learned to Talk, how Stella Learned to Talk, and

Steve Goers: Okay.

Dane Golden: she was a speech pathologist for people who didn't

Steve Goers: Right.

Dane Golden: And, and they used essentially a sort of an i special iPad that would make words

Steve Goers: Hungry. Hungry.

Dane Golden: yeah. So.

Steve Goers: That's the worst.

Dane Golden: Now Steve, you wanted to talk about dog sitters. So

Steve Goers: well, you

Dane Golden: usually have my dog sit. I watch my dog almost all the time. I don't go a lot of places just without my dog. What is your problem with dog sitters?

Steve Goers: Well, every, know, we, I don't go, I don't go to a lot of places either, you know, and that's why I do have a dog because. You can't just leave your dog at home and, you know, whatever. So my dog is anxious and I don't want to leave him at, we got this place called like animal crackers, you know, and they're like, you know, these, these bougie overnight places, you know, they got a camera on your dog, you know, it's, you know, and, and it's supposed to be this luxury place.

It doesn't matter. Johnny is anxious. And so we have to do is, well, the best thing for him is either. St. have somebody come to the house or, you know, can stay, he can stay at like, a family member's house. Anyway, with Johnny, somebody watches our dog. so good. You know, he's so good. Like, in fact, this morning my wife gave him his food and he spit it out because my wife didn't tell him.

Okay. You know, because, you know, if anything

Dane Golden: Oh really? He was waiting for permission.

Steve Goers: Waiting for permission. I mean, we got, you know, got kids, so, you know, I got kids. We got kids like, so you could eat Legos, you could eat anything we like. And as a puppy, the very first thing was drop it. it. You know, the very first thing we taught him.

Anyway, so Johnny's great Like people are oh, Johnny was so awesome. He's such a great dog. And then comes the reciprocal, you know? Now we have to be, you know, now, hey, can you watch my dog?

Dane Golden: oh.

Steve Goers: Okay, fine. Oh. My, you know, I'm not going to say who, but man, these dogs. It's like, I, Yeah. So watching another person's dog is the worst, if the dog is just so misbehaved.

We had one dog that would just get on our couch, and I go to move him and he like, was nipped at me, and I'm like, what? I'm like, I can't have a dog around here nipping at me. And then another dog's, another dog. Just, the, the name of the dog was embarrassing. This dog's name is socks. You

Dane Golden: Mm-hmm.

Steve Goers: going out like, can I have socks?

Where's my sock? You know, just,

Dane Golden: Yeah.

Steve Goers: And this dog was, you know, she's a nice, nice pup, but I mean, my goodness, she would not listen, not listen. Oh. To the point where it was just like, I'd just keep her outside.

Dane Golden: So here's.

Steve Goers: now we don't do it. Now, now, now. No, no, no more watching dogs at our house. I, I had to lay down the law.

Dane Golden: Well, my dog, my name, my dog is a black lab, eight years old. Her name is Buttercup. I adopted her when she was three from the Humane Society

Steve Goers: Buttercup

Dane Golden: a lovely dog, but, she really won't let anyone else walk her and. Yes. And she's not properly trained, although I ha I, I get her to obey all the things I need her to obey, but she's not properly trained to walk with anyone else.

And so I've tried, there's only been one guy, I had one guy I hired as a dog walker. He totally could get the dog to walk and walk in a pack, and that was great. But no other person, even people who really know dogs. Can get this dog to walk with them. And, so I know if anyone else is there that basically she will, she will go out to the curb, go to the bathroom, come back in the house,

Steve Goers: Yeah.

Dane Golden: and that's all.

She's not going to go anywhere. but I. So I'm in that case, I'm a bad owner because I haven't properly prepared her, but I, in my excuse

Steve Goers: it's, yeah, your dog is for you. You know, it's my dog. It's like, you know, like you can't cut a dog's hair like that. It's inhumane. What? It's my dog.

Dane Golden: in, in my excuse, I adopted this dog during the pandemic and I really didn't want to be inside at any training events. so that's my excuse,

Steve Goers: That's a great, great excuse.

Dane Golden: But, yeah, so my dog also ha we've adapted to a lot of funny, some people might say funny eating habits. Some, some other people's dogs won't eat the carrots and apples and celery and cucumbers and other things that I feed my dog.

But she's very happy with those things.

Steve Goers: Oh yeah. Yeah. Johnny loves, Loves strawberries.

Dane Golden: okay. For dogs,

Steve Goers: Yeah. You know, in moderation.

Dane Golden: Uhhuh. Well, my dog doesn't know moderation, and that's one of the reasons I'm very conscious now in Oregon,

Steve Goers: Yeah.

Dane Golden: in the, August, September months, we have a lot of fruit just growing in people's yards and falls into the, you know, area, the common area. And so my dog particularly pairs in the neighborhood where I live.

there's, because it's semi-urban area, there is a lot of food trash because people get a lot of stuff and then it overflows or whatever the case may be. So it's just a lot of stuff that I really have to be conscious of her not eating. because it could be problematic in a lot of ways,

Steve Goers: Yep.

Dane Golden: but.

Steve Goers: you know, we got Johnny like drop it, you know, right out of the gate.

Dane Golden: And I'll, but I do permit her to have pears. So even though the seeds are kind of toxic, I'm like, eh, she, you, you, you find a pear,

Steve Goers: Big

Dane Golden: can eat it. So, so she might, you know, people know black labs or labs eat a lot. She might eat during a morning walk, the equivalent of like four pairs.

Steve Goers: Aren't pears like a, like a laxative or something? Or,

Dane Golden: She doesn't have any problem with any digestive issues, so,

Steve Goers: for, for some reason the pear just made me think of the story that, my other Bernese Mountain. Mallory was running around our yard and she had something in her mouth, you know, it was like a size of a pair,

Dane Golden: mm-hmm.

Steve Goers: like, what do you got in there?

What do you got in there? It was a small baby bird.

Dane Golden: Oh.

Steve Goers: bird, like we opened up her mouth, the bird like looking at us like what the hell is going on?

Dane Golden: So it's live.

Steve Goers: Yeah. It was alive. Yeah. Yeah. She just kind of had it in her mouth and as we grabbed the baby, bird threw, you know, like, just put it under the tree and we were like, Mallory, no.

You know, like, you know, don't, it was crazy. I

Dane Golden: So

Steve Goers: believe it.

Dane Golden: are, but Bernese, mountain dogs are not to bird dogs, correct.

Steve Goers: You know, they are more of a herding dog, but they do, they, both Mallory and Johnny, they point, they have, they, you know, they, do like, they'll get a scent and they'll do a point. So somewhere in the mix I think is some type of like, hunting or dog and yo yo. know where that came from, but I was going to say if anybody out there knows, you know, some more history on that or has one, you know, feel free to email us or, shoot, that's it.

Just email us. Right. Or call in.

Dane Golden: Oh, okay. So, so, so yes. So I do want to encourage people to talk about anything about walking their dogs or related topics or feedback on anything we have or topics you want to cover. And I'm just going to give out my email. It's not my only email, but this is for this podcast, and I use it for other podcasts too.

So tell me which podcast It's for Dane Golden Biz, D-A-N-E-G-O-L. D-E-N-B-I z@gmail.com and you can send us a, a voice message. You can just record a voice message on your phone or computer and add that in. And we will, we'll play it on the air maybe if we like your question, or just respond to it, or you can just send us an email.

Steve Goers: Yeah. Yeah.

Dane Golden: but, Yeah. So that's, that's, I have a topic that I want to ask people about because I, for, for next time. But you can talk about whatever topic you want. I want to ask people to talk about their opinions on poop bags. And that sounds like a stupid question, but I have a lot of opinions on poop bags and, this is a,

Steve Goers: scented, non-scented.

Dane Golden: did you, they have scented bags.

Steve Goers: Oh yeah. Oh yeah. What's the mill? Is that the mill? Like how thick it is?

Dane Golden: Yeah, well I got a beef with promotional poop bags. so,

Steve Goers: I got a beef of, of poop bags.

Dane Golden: mm-hmm. Alright. We're not going to blow this topic though, right here though.

Steve Goers: I do have a good poop bag story where, people were very upset for people using poop eggs for something other than poop.

Dane Golden: Oh, okay. So, we're going to have, a lot to talk about next time, but, send in your poop bag questions and opinions. And

Steve Goers: your poop bag. Do not send in your poop bag. Send in your poop bag. Questions?

Dane Golden: also if you have a video of yourself walking the dog or just a video of your dog,

Steve Goers: Yes, we love to see them.

Dane Golden: You can send us a link to, you like just post it on Google Drive or somewhere and just send us a link of you walking your dog. We might use it in a future. Right now we're just doing audio. We might do some video and it'd be fun to show while we're talking, just video of people's dogs.

so anyway, so that's the whole thing. This is the Dog Walk Confidential podcast. My name is Dane Golden and I'm here with my co-host Steve Goers.

Steve Goers: Dane, it's been a pleasure. you know, this was a nice little stroll, the conversation and, I hope, you know, you folks, you know, had a chance to stop and, pick something up. along the way.

Dane Golden: Right, so you importantly hit the play button or the volume button before you bend over to pick up the poop.

Until next week, this has been the Dog Walk Confidential podcast.