The Dumb Zone FREE

In this special episode of "The Dumb Zone," hosts Dan McDowell and Jake Kemp dive into a lively discussion about Mike McCarthy's infamous confession, their own historic 100th episode milestone, and some hilarious behind-the-scenes moments. Mike McCarthy humorously admits to Jerry Jones about not watching every play of the 2019 season, and the hosts explore the implications and funny aspects of this revelation.

Join the crew as they share their excitement about going video and guide listeners on how to find their content on YouTube. They welcome two special guests, Jeff Jones and Austin Waters, both of whom have been on "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?" Their stories of getting on the show, dealing with Regis Philbin and Meredith Vieira, and their unique experiences make for an entertaining segment.

The episode also covers the fun and chaos of listener interactions, the intriguing nuances of sports fandom, and a deep dive into some amusing anecdotes from the hosts' personal lives. Blake Jones shares the wild experience of being recognized from TV and the unexpected encounters that come with minor fame, including awkward moments and unexpected propositions. The conversation shifts to tales of bizarre fan interactions, revealing the quirky side of being a public figure.

Dan McDowell and Jake Kemp join in, discussing everything from the oddities of modern technology to the latest sports news, including the intricacies of NFL contracts and player negotiations.  The guys dive into the complex contract situation of Dallas Cowboys' quarterback Dak Prescott with expert guest Joel Corey. They explore Prescott's leverage, potential for a record-breaking extension, and the challenges the Cowboys face in managing their salary cap. Additionally, the conversation touches on NFL contract strategies, team dynamics, and the impact of top-heavy rosters. Don't miss this insightful discussion on the future of one of the NFL's premier quarterbacks and its implications for the Cowboys. 

Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain their signature humor and candidness, making for an entertaining and engaging listen. Whether discussing the absurdity of Texas highway signs or reminiscing about the heyday of professional wrestling, "The Dumb Zone" delivers laughs and insights in equal measure. 
  • (00:00) - - Open
  • (08:30) - - Viewer Mail
  • (26:00) - - Who Wants to be a Millionaire guests - Jeff Jones and Austin Waters
  • (01:15:30) - - Joel Corry
  • (01:39:30) - - Sports audio: horns down and McCarthy trapped Jerry
  • (01:54:30) - - News
  • (02:08:30) - - Today in History
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Creators and Guests

Host
Dan McDowell
Who IS Dan McDowell? Dan is a complex personality, as are most of the small breed of modern day renaissance millionaires.... Email: bracketdan@hotmail.com
Host
Jake Kemp
why, we are on this particular mission, we’ll never know
Producer
Blake Jones
Blake.jonesradio@gmail.com

What is The Dumb Zone FREE?

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Speaker 1:

Mike, you, you mentioned the year off, and you spent a lot of time with a bunch of other coaches that you hired or worked with. And you said you analyzed every play or watched every play of the entire 2019 season. What is it that you learned from that experience that you think will benefit you most here?

Mike McCarthy:

Well, I mean, I I need to confess. I mean, I told Jerry I watched every play of the 2019 season, but I wanted a job. So IIII have I I haven't watched every play of the season, but it it was just, I mean, you do what you gotta do. Right? What?

Dan McDowell:

Hey, everybody. Welcome to this his historic show. Man. What? Why are you laughing at me?

Jake Kemp:

You're you're killing

Dan McDowell:

it. We're doing video today. We are. Now some most, I would say, might be listening to us. So just remember, we're actual people with video that you could look at us on our YouTube page, www.

Dan McDowell:

Youtube.com Mhmm. At the dumb zone or slash the dumb zone? I know it's labeled as something.

Jake Kemp:

When's the last time you put an at symbol in a URL? Right. Alright. Alright.

Speaker 5:

Is that the is that not done?

Jake Kemp:

No. Alright. It's not done at all.

Dan McDowell:

What is it, Blake? I know.

Blake Jones:

Here's He's right.

Dan McDowell:

We have our there's an at? Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

In the URL?

Blake Jones:

For you YouTube?

Jake Kemp:

Well, well, well,

Dan McDowell:

who's the a hole now?

Blake Jones:

Youtube.com/atthedumbzone.

Dan McDowell:

Look at this go. I know everything

Jake Kemp:

about Okay. So you actually type out at

Blake Jones:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

But you don't put the at symbol.

Blake Jones:

I was with you until a couple weeks ago when I tried sharing the link, and it's it is. It's the symbol. Dotcom/at the dumb zone.

Jake Kemp:

The symbol or the or the 2 letters? The symbol. I don't know about it.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, look at guy knows everything about the Internet. This is my generation, bruv.

Jake Kemp:

It's just I've never said bruv

Dan McDowell:

Ever. Well, you should, because it's great. It rolls right off the tongue. So if you are watching on video, you already see there's more people here than just us. Although, I can't our video guy is now not switching us, so I I shouldn't say it.

Dan McDowell:

But anyway, we have 2,

Blake Jones:

adding on a lot to his plate. Who? Video man.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, yeah. We can only call him video man. He doesn't wanna be identified. But, we have sitting in here in the, den, the dragon den of inequality located high atop my garage where we broadcast, where we record live to tape every day. By the way, video man, are we backing up the video?

Dan McDowell:

We've had a little issue with No. 1 video. 1 video? Yeah. Okay.

Dan McDowell:

Are we backing up the audio, audio man?

Blake Jones:

We are. Yes.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. I say it's, so in in studio what was I gonna say? In den? In den. On couch, We have 2 guys who are listeners apparently.

Dan McDowell:

Correct? You guys are familiar with this

Speaker 7:

Yes. Very much so.

Dan McDowell:

Journey that we're on? Absolutely. You're joining us in the journey? And, these guys were both on who wants to be a millionaire many years ago. We have, Jeff Jones.

Dan McDowell:

We have Austin Waters.

Blake Jones:

Hey. Yay. 1 t. 1 t. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Not like Ricky. 1 t waters.

Jake Kemp:

Give it to ref. More

Dan McDowell:

Ricky Charlie.

Blake Jones:

Ricky was a special runner.

Dan McDowell:

Related to Charlie?

Speaker 7:

No. Unfortunately.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. There was 1 team. Yeah. Of course. Charlie had 1 tier.

Speaker 8:

Right? Ricky had 2. Mhmm.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. So we'll talk about their experience, at some point. Being on

Jake Kemp:

I can't believe there's an at in this website.

Blake Jones:

It's it's it's shocking.

Speaker 8:

I'm I'm kinda shocked by that too.

Jake Kemp:

Like, what are do you have websites with exclamation points?

Dan McDowell:

You know, maybe you should be involved in our show somewhat and like, the other stuff besides just showing up and sitting there and killing it.

Blake Jones:

It's not fun, is it?

Dan McDowell:

It's fun. Yeah. Anyway, Jake, did you know the historic occasion that we are on right now? Show 100? Show 100.

Speaker 8:

Oh. Yeah. I feel honored.

Dan McDowell:

Actually, 101.

Speaker 9:

But I

Dan McDowell:

don't know if you guys are familiar. We had 1. We have a lost episode.

Jake Kemp:

We do.

Dan McDowell:

Would it be cool to ever find that and find Did we pay the $80? Dan's jizz joke? No. We never tried paying the $80.

Jake Kemp:

You kinda retold it.

Dan McDowell:

I did. I don't remember.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That was yesterday?

Jake Kemp:

Yep.

Dan McDowell:

Wife asked me last night, so how did the show go? What did you do today? I don't know.

Jake Kemp:

Did the same thing we did the day before.

Dan McDowell:

I think it was way different. I think it was at least partly different. It was partly different.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. It was partly different.

Dan McDowell:

We didn't laugh as much at the audio, but still.

Blake Jones:

It's funny.

Jake Kemp:

Funny to me.

Speaker 7:

It's great.

Dan McDowell:

It's still it still does work.

Jake Kemp:

Martin Luther King, what a guy.

Blake Jones:

Deserved the day. The great

Dan McDowell:

you know, he did he just did some things that were good.

Jake Kemp:

Slayed a lot of ass.

Speaker 8:

A lot.

Dan McDowell:

You know, we could start with some viewer mail, which, I got a

Jake Kemp:

little bit.

Speaker 7:

Hey, everybody. It's time to answer some of today's viewer mail.

Jake Kemp:

If I'm allowed, since I've now been told that all I do is show

Speaker 7:

up. Okay.

Blake Jones:

Alright. Come on now.

Dan McDowell:

Deal with this all day. He's so sensitive.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Now I did tell you yesterday on purpose that, video man would be here because I know Bull, I don't have to bring

Jake Kemp:

my wife whenever the

Dan McDowell:

know. But you like to look nicer. Like, you look way nicer today than I think you would have had I not informed you that.

Jake Kemp:

Thank you.

Dan McDowell:

Don't you think?

Jake Kemp:

I don't know. But

Dan McDowell:

Jake is the the vainest 1 of the group, I think.

Jake Kemp:

That is a 100% true.

Blake Jones:

Okay. Good.

Jake Kemp:

I will not deny

Dan McDowell:

that. Oh, you felt you might be elevated?

Blake Jones:

I was getting ready to strike.

Dan McDowell:

Just because you No. No. No. You changed your outfit for Jake.

Jake Kemp:

I own that.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Not today.

Jake Kemp:

I own that for sure.

Dan McDowell:

It's kind of my I have a Jake my work wife. Yeah. And my wife wife Jake wife analogy. Because my wife will scramble around if I tell her, oh, hey. We're doing a Sunday screen stream.

Dan McDowell:

Now she's cleaning the downstairs.

Jake Kemp:

But they won't be down here?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. And she's like, yeah. But what if they see it? And I go, what if we just always lived?

Jake Kemp:

Like people were coming over. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Like, if if the way you live is embarrassing for you to think that other people live like that. Yeah. Why don't because I just Look, this place is a mess. And you guys The

Blake Jones:

lights and stuff.

Dan McDowell:

I know, but I'm just saying if I invite you to my house, I don't have to go clean up first. Right. You're just gonna this is how I live. It's not great. It's there's worse.

Dan McDowell:

There's much worse. There's always worse. That's what you can always say. But, yes, but I think most ladies are like that. Like, would your wife be upset if I or if you brought home a bunch of people and she didn't know they were coming over and

Jake Kemp:

I didn't get

Dan McDowell:

the chance to pick up?

Jake Kemp:

I'm, like, hesitant to even say this given how much I've been roasted by the roast twins, but we would pick up if Eden or Ava were coming over. Because she's like, what if they tell Dan and Kathy? Golly. Like, they won't. They don't care.

Jake Kemp:

Right.

Dan McDowell:

And if it's perfect, they're going to rip it.

Jake Kemp:

Right. Right. To clean up just for me. Idiots.

Dan McDowell:

I'm gonna give out some, birthdays. We have, good afternoon, breaker of chains, Dan. DF Matt here. I am part of the illustrious group of people that has smoked a cigarette with Jake.

Blake Jones:

The list grows.

Jake Kemp:

We need a hall of fame.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Outside the oh, ye bowling bush.

Jake Kemp:

Oh, man. What is that? It was a bar over by my house, when I lived in Fort Worth, right by where you would pick up your ringer pitcher.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, okay. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Fantastic.

Dan McDowell:

She was good.

Jake Kemp:

It was a great bar.

Dan McDowell:

Today is my wife Britney's birthday. She doesn't listen to the show, but the bored semi annoyed look when I play this back to her will be just perfect. Okay. We sat directly in front of Jake at blink 182. Uh-oh.

Dan McDowell:

But due to your little contract thing or some s Little. We were robbed of the review. Sad.

Jake Kemp:

Do you have I mean, I I was really into it.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, okay. Yeah. Positive. Oh. Your thumb is up.

Jake Kemp:

For sure. For sure. I just thought maybe they they would have caught me vibing pretty hard.

Dan McDowell:

He says 2 things. 1, return of Yahweh. Why not? I think if we get a studio I can't do it in here necessarily. There's just not enough room.

Dan McDowell:

Although, I could take down these the cute pictures of the kids.

Jake Kemp:

I'm I'm It's an option.

Dan McDowell:

I'm I know what they look like. I don't know what your wife look I don't know what Britney looks like though. You know? Right. And he says to more Blake.

Dan McDowell:

Hey.

Jake Kemp:

We agree.

Blake Jones:

That's all I have.

Dan McDowell:

From Matt Shisek. Okay. CZ.

Blake Jones:

I know that dude.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, that's why I went That's

Blake Jones:

why yeah. Cizzic.

Dan McDowell:

Scissor. Scissor. Yeah. Matt Scissor. Britney Scissor.

Dan McDowell:

Wanna give a birthday shout out to my boy, Julio Roxas, aka July Reds. He is 37 today. Leaders are you, Gordo, and Corby. Here's a pick from his dream hall pass, and the picture was Susie Kolber. What?

Dan McDowell:

That's your dream? From Juan Johnny Ramirez on Twitter. And I've been up close with Susie Culver and her little fuzzy tennis ball face. I like it. You like it?

Dan McDowell:

That's a compliment. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm writing this email from, Hotmail.

Dan McDowell:

Hotmail fear. I'm writing this email for my lowly Gmail account.

Blake Jones:

What did she she voted for the Bills trainer, but only for 5th place?

Jake Kemp:

For MVP. Yes.

Blake Jones:

You okay? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

For MVP? Yeah. I listen to the dumb zone and take inventory after a water pipe burst in my house on Wednesday. I wanna thank you for having the epi with wire will to remind me that things can always be worse. And to give a birthday shout out to my brother, John, day 1 d f for helping me manage the damage here from Alex Housewright.

Dan McDowell:

And then I have a, couple more that are not birthday related. K. 1 says, dear Potty Fuhrer, as AD1 Patreon subscriber, I pay all 3 of your salaries. I demand to know why you have not issued a ceasefire notice to Palestine. Hope this email makes it to you from inferior Gmail.

Jake Kemp:

We should.

Dan McDowell:

From Brad Gilbert. We should. Think we should

Jake Kemp:

put something together from the official desk of the dumb zone.

Dan McDowell:

I think we should talk about it first, though. You think so? Maybe a committee.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. House how what size?

Dan McDowell:

Not large. 80%. Probably even smaller than small. Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Just not

Dan McDowell:

I I don't wanna put a lot of resources towards this. Okay. Because, I mean, it's just Palestine.

Jake Kemp:

Right? Oh.

Speaker 5:

Is that, that big of a deal?

Blake Jones:

I thought about Reece fire a lot yesterday.

Jake Kemp:

Thank you. That was great.

Dan McDowell:

Thank you. And I got howdy, Dan. I was listening. I tried

Speaker 9:

to order

Jake Kemp:

it at Andy's last night, and they were

Blake Jones:

highly confused. Freeze fire or

Jake Kemp:

It's a peanut butter Half my brain was purchased.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Yeah. Wait. Where did that come from? That was yesterday.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. I could have told my wife that.

Blake Jones:

Because Ben and Jerry's decided that she was

Dan McDowell:

super surprised for some Oh,

Jake Kemp:

man.

Dan McDowell:

A question popped into my head as I was listening to the dumb zone. At the ticket, you used to seem you always seem to involve producers, board ops more than any other host. I've learned that you guys always thought they were undervalue undervalued. Even with guests or hosts from other shows, you would let them roll as much as possible, ask them to hang around when they were there. Let's see.

Dan McDowell:

I have, enjoyed hearing about your broadcast history. What inspired you from what you had learned? Okay. Blah blah blah. Just curious about that.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. What is it?

Dan McDowell:

What was that cough? What was inside that cough?

Blake Jones:

He said that was gay. Woah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. That may have been no. I just wanted to say, I was thinking about this this morning.

Blake Jones:

Oh, nice email though.

Dan McDowell:

And I've just been a I used to listen to a station called w WLW in Cincinnati, and they would do a segment every day of just kinda effing it was just some guy had a talk show. But then at the end of the show, and I think this is probably what was in my mind as why today doesn't suck became what it became. It was just kind of like a free for all f around and they would answer trivia questions from people and and blow them up or some I don't know. They would do funny stuff, and Chris Collinsworth was a big part of it. He was 1 of, like, just 7 guys.

Dan McDowell:

And it was just really, really cool. And then III always liked, what I liked about Stern, besides nakedness.

Jake Kemp:

Mhmm. Sibians. Is that what you call that, Blake?

Blake Jones:

I'm distracted by the robot cam.

Dan McDowell:

It's 2 of your stuff.

Blake Jones:

It's just all over the place.

Dan McDowell:

This robot cam?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Would

Dan McDowell:

I like to yeah. And I was walking around here the other night. I told you I'd put a shirt over because I couldn't have it following me at night. What I liked about Stern is they would have people in and just do their show. But, you know, every other radio thing I had ever listened to was, we have again, we have, the guy who's on, Who Wants to be a Millionaire, and, now let's talk to you about that.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. Then you're on your like, I just kinda liked people jumping in and joining the show. And I always thought that was a, cool thing that the the ticket provided that possibility. So I always thought that was kind of a cool bit.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Because it sounds more like life.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. The guys hanging out bit. People. Bros. And ladies.

Dan McDowell:

Could could be women.

Blake Jones:

We gotta cater to women. Remember?

Dan McDowell:

Oh, that's right. I'm sorry. Yes. Guys and girls, especially girls. You want more women.

Speaker 9:

Mhmm.

Dan McDowell:

Actually, that was in the lost episode. When you say remember, I might remember And now so many people don't.

Blake Jones:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I got an email from Andrew. Said he was just listening to our story about the dry ice bombs. That was not on the lost episode, was it? No. Said it reminded him of some friends that, he had during high school.

Jake Kemp:

Put a Coke bottle filled with dry ice in the mailbox of some girl they either thought was a bitch or had a crush on her or both, which was typically the case. Right?

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. That's how you It opened up

Jake Kemp:

the top of the mailbox so that instead of it being a metal arch shape, it was completely flat. So it just explode I mean, they explode. Mhmm. Right? Few days later, these guys go home after school, and waiting for them at each of their houses were a team of FBI agents.

Jake Kemp:

Jeez. Just in case blowing up a mailbox was dumb enough, they did it in 1995 during the height of the hunt of the Unabomber. And if you recall Wait.

Dan McDowell:

Mailbox blowing up was a thing when I was growing up.

Jake Kemp:

It was. And there was something that, like

Dan McDowell:

It was m 80.

Jake Kemp:

It was like whenever you would hear that, your dad's friend's arms had to be registered as lethal weapons. Effing around with a mailbox was, like, the 1 thing that I was told

Speaker 8:

don't.

Jake Kemp:

Now it's federal.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, that's why?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean, I don't know if that's true or not.

Dan McDowell:

Like, that's a federal offense?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. But, like, you would, you know, smash mailboxes with baseball bats and stuff, or we would throw pumpkins at them. We would steal pumpkins off people's, doorsteps and just throw them out of the car at mailboxes.

Dan McDowell:

Boy, I remember how mad my mom would get when somebody would take our pumpkin and smash it in the middle of the street. Oh. Because that was the most common thing that

Blake Jones:

Why would they do that?

Jake Kemp:

I would do that for a week every year for 3 or 4 years.

Dan McDowell:

And she's like, what what's going through their mind? And I would break stuff in the neighborhood all the time too. It's like

Jake Kemp:

Who could have done this?

Dan McDowell:

There's not Yeah, there's no The rhyme

Speaker 8:

or reason?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah, that's why, even now, when kids get in trouble or whatever, it's kind of like it's not that they're really well thought out or they're trying to make a statement or whatever or they or because they are neglected at home or it's just that I'm just bored. They're teenagers. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

You had a pumpkin. They had a mailbox. Yeah. We had a van.

Blake Jones:

And you had time.

Speaker 8:

And I

Jake Kemp:

had time today.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, by the way, the last guy who had asked those, questions, who is, Aggie Todd.

Blake Jones:

Very Aggie question.

Dan McDowell:

He said you don't have to answer this on the pod. But if you do read it, ask Blake if he could say anything nice about Aggie. No. Nothing?

Speaker 9:

Have you been

Dan McDowell:

down there for a game?

Blake Jones:

No. Not for a game. I was down there a couple months ago for a semiconductor event and they have a weird obsession with that dog for some reason. And no, I didn't like being on the campus. It just felt weird.

Blake Jones:

And then I I told you guys What

Dan McDowell:

fun event did that you didn't invite us to?

Jake Kemp:

You were

Dan McDowell:

a semiconductor event event. Working for the production company.

Blake Jones:

I was gone 1 of those days from the show. And then was it oh, and then I I stumbled upon the Yale practice. Remember?

Speaker 8:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Stockyard.

Jake Kemp:

That was in yeah. In Fort Worth and down

Blake Jones:

That was a cult meeting.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

So, no, I don't have anything great to say about the Aggie.

Jake Kemp:

You went there. Yeah? Hell no. Oh, I thought 1 of y'all said you went there.

Speaker 7:

No. I went to OU. Okay.

Jake Kemp:

That's right.

Speaker 7:

Very much against the Aggies.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 7:

Have been there for a game. Terrible. Terrible. So you

Dan McDowell:

might you might join us for Sunday for our o u. We're having a, Baker Mayfield watching party.

Speaker 7:

I'm 100% there.

Dan McDowell:

Baker v Dan Campbell. You know what the networks are saying? Dan Campbell's most difficult test yet.

Blake Jones:

I don't think anyone's ever seen it.

Dan McDowell:

Like in all his time coaching, playing, this is this is the 1 thing that he kinda feared the most.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean, it's it's tough to imagine bigger chips on shoulders than the 2 of those, you know? Like, do they even have shoulders left? If you think about the chips on the the shoulders of Dan Campbell and Baker Mayfield.

Dan McDowell:

Youtube.com/at

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. The He's got me on that 1. I've been to a game there once, and, I feel like it was overrated. They're weird. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

I thought it was fun.

Jake Kemp:

Like, within a a span of, like, 2 or 3 years, I went to Penn State or no. I went to Michigan, Ohio State, and Kyle Field. Those the former 2 are a 100% way above Kyle Field. Way above. It's a better atmosphere.

Jake Kemp:

I don't know. I just I thought it was like, oh, okay. Is what I've been told about. Pretty spare.

Dan McDowell:

Alright.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I didn't get to see Marty b like you did, though.

Dan McDowell:

Was Marty b playing when I was there?

Jake Kemp:

I think so.

Dan McDowell:

Not Michael b? Not Michael b. No. Did Michael b go there?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Right?

Blake Jones:

I don't remember.

Jake Kemp:

But he was, like, older and still in college when Martel has been in was already in the NFL. Is that right? Am I crazy here? Is anybody gonna help me,

Dan McDowell:

like No. That seems weird. Why would he be older but still in college? Bennett Brothers history.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I think, Martellus just got drafted earlier.

Dan McDowell:

When are we gonna get him, Blake?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I don't know.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. Fantastic.

Dan McDowell:

Later today, we have, former NFL agent Joel Corey will be on with us because we gotta talk Dak MoneySitch. Mhmm. Because it looks like the cowboys like, Dax Dax back for sure and probably will be the highest paid player in the NFL.

Blake Jones:

And Joel Corey warned us about this 2 years ago.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. He did.

Dan McDowell:

And, the cowboys also made a curious announcement yesterday. At least I saw you react on Twitter with, quizzically. I mean, you reacted.

Jake Kemp:

I I guess I get it. They wanna stay in the news cycle, but your your coach is not he's still under contract. So why do you need to announce, like, officially put out a statement, not just like sources are saying or reporters are putting out a comment? You have to announce official statement wise that we're gonna keep our coach? That seems really weird to me.

Dan McDowell:

Do you think it's because of the comments he's given in the past, which are the kind of like we'll we'll just see

Jake Kemp:

Game by game.

Dan McDowell:

You know, we got game by game. I I got a lot of good people in this room that could coach, you know, all that kind of stuff. Which just shows all of that stuff he was ever saying is total bullshit. Mhmm. Because this was the 1 scenario where we said, okay.

Dan McDowell:

This is the 1 way. Let's go back to last year after the San Francisco playoff loss. Alright. They're running it back. What I probably asked you this directly.

Dan McDowell:

Like, what's what's the 1 thing that could have McCarthy lose his job? Well, probably a 1st round playoff exit where they just get drilled.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Like, embarrassed. And we didn't even add in the fact that it's a 1st round playoff exit as the 2nd seed in the NFC, and everything had lined up for you. I heard Troy on the ticket this morning saying he didn't plan a vacation Mhmm. Because he was planning to go to San Francisco for the NFC championship game. And I think that was in our head, like, of course, they'll they'll

Jake Kemp:

and yeah. Well, you know, what's funny is if you think back to last year, the, Mike McCarthy on Rich Eisen interview. Wasn't that where, he addressed? Because didn't Jerry say something like, maybe the next head coach of the Dallas Cowboys is already here? I mean, you kind of alluded to that a minute ago.

Jake Kemp:

Like, I got a lot of great people in the room, but

Dan McDowell:

That's what he said? Okay. That was

Jake Kemp:

Like, he actually said, Mike knows he's not gonna be the coach of the cowboys forever. Like, why would you even say that?

Dan McDowell:

Certainly, that was insinuating Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn will just slide over once I'm tired of Mike McCarthy.

Jake Kemp:

And so yeah. I mean, I guess if you're gonna keep him, you have to make a statement.

Dan McDowell:

I guess. Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. The Browns, did they make a Kevin Stefanski statement?

Dan McDowell:

I don't know that anybody else does this. Ever. Like, Sirianni. There's another guy. Kind of the media and fans are questioning, is he in the hot seat?

Dan McDowell:

Have they stepped out and and made an official statement? No. And will they? They will not.

Jake Kemp:

No. You might as well just extend McCarthy now if you're gonna do it this way. I don't know.

Dan McDowell:

It's Anything worthy. Disappointing. Anything worthy from the McCarthy press conference today? Or should we hold this and talk a little millionaire? Because we're worried about the Joel Corey timing.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I would say we

Dan McDowell:

could hold this. Okay. Joel Corey is coming up in about 40 minutes or so. Joel Corey. Our former Joel Corey.

Dan McDowell:

Our friend who's a former NFL agent. We've talked to him before. But, yeah, let's talk, who who wants to be a millionaire then? Unless you guys have any other you have any opening remarks, Blake?

Blake Jones:

No. I'm excited about this. I mean, I I think this is 1 of my all time favorite TV shows.

Jake Kemp:

I Okay. Wow.

Blake Jones:

I've got a set to record on my on my YouTube TV and I I watch it a lot and I love it. And I probably miss the initial buzz of it. I mean, I remember watching it as a kid but I to this day, I'll still watch it.

Jake Kemp:

Oh, it was appointment viewing in my household. Yep. This was

Dan McDowell:

Until they put it on every night? Into that, you know, we were we were like, alright, this is what we do at night.

Jake Kemp:

We eat dinner. We watch we watch millionaire.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. And I did.

Dan McDowell:

So the reason we first started talking about this is that somebody wrote in and gave a birthday a birthday shout out to Austin, to you. Right? Austin Waters?

Speaker 7:

Yeah. With 1 t? Buddy Kevin. With 1 t. Yes.

Speaker 7:

With 1 t.

Dan McDowell:

And, he had said you were on Millionaire, and then we just started talking about how we liked it and stuff. And then you heard us. Right?

Speaker 7:

Yeah. 1 of my friends, Jen, actually texted me that day. I hadn't listened to the episode yet because I was at work, and she said, oh, such a cool shout out on the dumb zone. I was like, what the hell are you talking about? Queue it up.

Speaker 7:

And I was immediately called to Kevin. I was like, dude, I cannot believe you did that. He's like, man, I haven't even listened to the episode. So I was, yeah, not expecting it, and I was like, shit. I guess I'll email him, see if he's serious.

Speaker 7:

I didn't really know how serious y'all were, but, here we are.

Dan McDowell:

You say in the email it's a pretty wild story. It was in the heyday of the show when Regis, RIP, was the host. A special Father's Day edition. What's up? It aired prime time on Father's Day in o 1.

Dan McDowell:

The story of how we got on the show is, great as well. We can talk about that later. So, let me ask in the end, well, actually, I saw the episodes, but, so I kinda know. But how much money did you guys walk away with?

Speaker 7:

We walked away with 1.20 5, after taxes. I think it was, like, 85. And so I'm the oldest of 4 kids. My parents put $20, 000 into each of our college funds. And then, my sister, who's, like, a year and a half younger than me, she's diabetic, and so we donated the other 5, 000 to diabetes research.

Speaker 7:

And my dad, at the time worked at Allstate, and they actually matched the donation, which was really cool.

Dan McDowell:

Nice. Okay. So $20 in each of your college funds.

Jake Kemp:

1 class. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That's that's very, boring. Yeah. Yeah. When you're a kid, it's like, hey.

Speaker 8:

Or It's

Jake Kemp:

not smart, but, yeah,

Blake Jones:

yeah. Planning ahead.

Jake Kemp:

I I even feel like I was watching. I can't remember which episode it was. Regis is like, you already got a spuds

Speaker 8:

car. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Like, no. We're not we're not buying a Camaro.

Dan McDowell:

Sound like $1, 000 for each kid to just, hey, go buy whatever you want Yeah. And we'll put the rest of it. Like, there's nothing worse for my kids than when grandma on Christmas.

Jake Kemp:

Here's your 529.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Like, $500 goes into your college fund. They're like

Speaker 7:

Well, I've got a birthday 5 days after Christmas. So I was always stuck with the here's your birthday and Christmas gift. It was, like, the same amount that was given to my siblings and stuff, so that was fun. Not from my parents.

Dan McDowell:

They were great. Right. But from, from Regis. I think, it feels like 85 out of a 125. That doesn't seem like egregious for taking taxes, does it?

Dan McDowell:

That's 2 thirds. Right? Like, kept 2 thirds.

Jake Kemp:

That's what I'm saying.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I'm just saying.

Jake Kemp:

I feel like get that's normal. Like, 35% is what you always hear about, like, lottery and stuff.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

I think. Yeah. I've never won a $25, 000 on Who Wants to be a Millionaire, though.

Dan McDowell:

Or a scratch off. No. So you were, so what's your deal, Jeff? You you were on I guess you also heard us talking about this and then just sent a clip out of nowhere. It's like, hey, I've been on the show too.

Speaker 8:

Right. Well, you know, I thought I'd back it up with some actual, you know, evidence. Not that I'm sure you would've taken a word for it, but, no, a good buddy of mine, Dustin, he, I think I missed whatever episode. And so he said, hey. You know, he he, of course, knows that I was on the show.

Speaker 8:

And, yeah. I reached out with that, lovely clip with me and, miss Viera who I have to say, you know, she, when I was on the show, she's a very striking woman. And, you know, we had a, well, you'd have to see the whole appearance, but

Jake Kemp:

You had a connection. Yeah. A little confused. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

We absolutely did. It was, like, palpable. And, and I would get asked, hey. Did y'all because, you know, she said, it came up in my appearance about how I like to go to the karaoke bar. She asked if we could go together or something like that.

Speaker 8:

I said, well, hell yeah. Let's go. And so I really had people that this was the towards the end of the Myspace time.

Speaker 7:

Oh, geez.

Speaker 8:

And so I saw the Myspace because it was like o 07:08. And I got I don't know how many Myspace messages about, did you did you did you go out? Did you do did you do something with Meredith Vieira? Anyway, what was I what was I talking about?

Jake Kemp:

How do you get on the show?

Blake Jones:

Did you? By the way, did did you ever answer that?

Speaker 8:

No. We just, you know, no.

Jake Kemp:

Just vibe? Okay.

Blake Jones:

Alright.

Jake Kemp:

Ships passing.

Speaker 8:

That's possible vibe. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 8:

Ships.

Dan McDowell:

How do you get the show? Yeah. Because on your email you say, in addition to the cash I took Meredith out for drinks

Speaker 8:

and a screw.

Dan McDowell:

I'd be happy to elaborate. So I certainly wanted to hear about

Speaker 8:

that, but, you didn't understand that. I kinda thought I'd add that for y'all's benefit.

Jake Kemp:

Just to

Dan McDowell:

get me to respond.

Speaker 8:

It did get you to respond.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Yeah. I did the same for Regis.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Yeah. How old were you, Jeff, when you were

Speaker 8:

let's see. It was about 15 years ago. I'm 45 now, so I was, like, 30.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. I didn't even know it was on in o 7 still.

Speaker 8:

Well, you know, after reg it went to syndication in, like, 0 5, 06. And so the way you got on the show when I appeared was a lot different than I'm sure when Austin was appear when appeared because the, the Madden Cruiser equivalent of millionaire would roll into your town, and in this instance, Bass Performance Hall in Fort Worth. And, you had to get in line, and I remember I, it said get there, like, 9:30. And I my dumbass thought, well, you know, I can just get there, like, at 10 or something. And then the line was wrapped around the building, like, twice.

Speaker 8:

Waited in that line for about 3 and a half hours. Finally got inside Bass Hall, Bass, whatever. I was about to say Bass Pro.

Jake Kemp:

Bass Performance.

Speaker 8:

Well, yeah. Yeah. And so I got into the door, and I'm not kidding. Like, 2 people behind me, that's when they shut it and said, alright. Everybody go home.

Speaker 8:

And then you sat in the theater. They gave you, like, a little golf pencil, and I swear a pad that was, like, something you'd get on a hotel nightstand. And it was, like, 30 question, not the, like, it was 30 questions. You, you answered them. You gave them to the, whatever.

Speaker 8:

And before you, did that, you got like a marathon little, Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Like a bib type thing.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. Yeah. With your number. I still have it somewhere. And so, they just after you take the test, and they say, based on your number, if they call out your number, you went on stage.

Speaker 8:

If you didn't, you went home. They called my number and said, basically, alright. Well, you, you scored to be enough to be on the show, but, here's the deal. We're gonna put you into a pool of people. This was July.

Speaker 8:

And, basically, don't call us. We'll call you. I I pretty much forgot about it. Fast forward to the week before Thanksgiving, I'd had a, you know, couple of cocktails the night before. So I I wake up and I've got, like, you know, this voicemail from weird number I have, you know, I have no idea.

Speaker 8:

And it's millionaire saying call us back. We'll we'll want you on the show if you can be in New York City in 2 weeks. And I'm thinking, oh, yeah. This is a funny joke from somebody. I'll call back and, yeah, sure enough.

Speaker 8:

It was legit and got that's back also the time of, name your own price on Priceline. And I'll never forget, I got my airfare on Delta for $78 to to New York City.

Jake Kemp:

Nice.

Speaker 8:

Can't get that anymore. No.

Blake Jones:

What were you doing at this time?

Speaker 8:

Nothing. Kinda like I'm doing now.

Blake Jones:

Okay. Yeah. So because I was tickled by your page. Apparently, there's, like, a millionaire Wikipedia page. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

And it says Jeff Jones, an unemployed man from Grapevine.

Speaker 8:

From Grapevine. That is right. They actually wanted to they were gonna use the title man of leisure. And I was like, you know, I like that. Man of I'm a man of leisure.

Speaker 8:

And, yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Now it's influencer.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. Yeah. Possibly. And, do you do you want the rest all the way when I get to New York? Or do should I hand it to Austin?

Speaker 8:

Or

Dan McDowell:

Let's take a look at, let's take a look at your your appearance

Speaker 8:

Okay.

Dan McDowell:

If we can.

Speaker 8:

Yes. Please.

Speaker 7:

Can we

Dan McDowell:

do that video, man? Let's let's watch this and, and listen if you're listening along. This is good

Speaker 8:

as well.

Speaker 5:

Man, I feel like I'm gonna have to rope me a text in here because you keep getting up. You're all excited.

Dan McDowell:

Well, y'all look at the connection. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

That was all that. Sir.

Speaker 5:

Good reason to get up.

Speaker 8:

I'll say so. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

You got a little chintered there or

Speaker 8:

just I do. I I don't know what

Jake Kemp:

yeah. There's a different time.

Speaker 5:

Feeling good. You're 3 away.

Blake Jones:

That shirt

Speaker 8:

that you're wearing? Marty Moose.

Speaker 5:

3 away from

Speaker 8:

a million.

Speaker 10:

From,

Speaker 8:

you know, Wahoo.

Speaker 5:

250, 000. So you ready to play?

Speaker 8:

Yes, ma'am.

Blake Jones:

Some people dress up the

Speaker 7:

occasion. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

You you you can

Speaker 8:

just wanna a blazer. Yeah. So, you know, that kinda says a

Jake Kemp:

sweetie. Business. 250

Speaker 8:

Okay.

Dan McDowell:

So I'm gonna pause it here.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

The question, in office space, Peter's coworker Michael admits that his high-tech get rich scheme is taken from what movie? So when you see that

Speaker 8:

I Are you like me? The whole sentence. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

You already know.

Speaker 8:

I know it. I'm stroking out as you can see. Blake.

Dan McDowell:

I like to quiz Blake on movies that I'm assuming he did

Speaker 8:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Great movies. Because Blake doesn't watch great movies.

Speaker 8:

Oh, that's a shame.

Dan McDowell:

He watches TCU Basketball.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. I mean, office space top 10. Right?

Blake Jones:

Fell to Cincinnati the other night.

Dan McDowell:

No deal?

Blake Jones:

This question? Yeah. I mean, I've seen the clip, but no. I I wouldn't have known. Okay.

Speaker 5:

In in office space,

Speaker 8:

his coworker, Mike

Dan McDowell:

I gotta let her go.

Speaker 8:

Admits that his Alright. I, dude. Get ridged. I can't even freaking believe it. Look at you.

Speaker 8:

The question is this easy? Sales, pop 2. This easy was for quarter

Speaker 5:

of a $1, 000, 000. Superman 3.

Speaker 8:

This is 1 of the best movies ever. It is Superman 3 c final answer. Answer. Yeah. Oh, look

Blake Jones:

at her. Yeah. She's pumped for you.

Jake Kemp:

And and they said that I

Speaker 8:

was the first person to ever actually get out of my seat.

Jake Kemp:

It's like tiger at Augusta. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. There were some fist bumps.

Dan McDowell:

Cocaine or

Blake Jones:

adrenaline? That's

Speaker 8:

a pleasure. Adrenaline mostly. I'm telling you this. Mostly.

Jake Kemp:

Not entirely. Yes.

Speaker 8:

Right? You know, we had our lovely embrace there. That

Jake Kemp:

was sweet.

Speaker 5:

Sit down

Speaker 8:

for a second.

Speaker 5:

Okay. Alright? Because you're coming back, sir.

Speaker 8:

Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 5:

Yes, ma'am. He is. We'll have more $1, 000, 000 movie week.

Speaker 8:

Makes sense.

Dan McDowell:

$1, 000, 000 movie week.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. So that was the first person even counting Regis' days that 1 appearance, even though I didn't win the million, went over 3 days. So that was something. Nice. In case you wondered.

Dan McDowell:

What did you end up winning?

Speaker 8:

That I mean, if you saw the there's a clip on YouTube of my $500, 000 question.

Blake Jones:

I've got it in front of me.

Speaker 8:

Just the

Blake Jones:

question itself, and it's actually from diner.

Speaker 8:

And I it prompts me.

Dan McDowell:

Let's see if we can get it because we've actually seen that movie.

Blake Jones:

Alright. In the 1982 movie diner, what is the name of the diner where the main characters hang out?

Jake Kemp:

I wouldn't be able to get that.

Blake Jones:

Windsor Hills, Rosemont, Fells Point, Allendale.

Jake Kemp:

I would go with Rosemont.

Dan McDowell:

I would have Mike Reiner as my 1 phone call.

Speaker 5:

That's why I'm Let me

Speaker 8:

just can I tell you Is

Dan McDowell:

it Rosemont?

Speaker 8:

No. No. No. No. It was not.

Speaker 8:

So I was out of lifelines. Sales to sales point. So I'm at 250, 000. Right? Well, if you miss, I had already got to the the whatever plateau or the plateau or

Blake Jones:

the 52 long term that

Speaker 8:

I couldn't do worse than 25, 000. But, you know, I missed that. That's a big ass 0 to go 250 to 25. But I had this nagging suspicion, like, that it was see Fells Point. I I'd heard of diner because I think it was like Gutenberg's and Kevin Bacon and Daniel Stern.

Speaker 8:

It was, like, all their their first movie, but I had no reason to why I felt this way. So I thought, well, I I'd be foolish to, you know, gamble here real fast.

Dan McDowell:

0 if you don't get it?

Speaker 8:

No. I already got 25. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

I was guaranteed 25. I couldn't do any worse than that. So I, you know, I molded over for a second and then, walked away. And, of course, she said, well, we gotta show you the answer. And it was C.

Speaker 8:

Fells Point. So I woulda had half a1000000 and then even more so gotten to look at the $1, 000, 000 question. Yeah. But I was still pretty satisfied. It was a good day's work.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I guess so.

Speaker 8:

That wasn't doing anything and, you know, still is.

Jake Kemp:

You're a man of leisure.

Speaker 8:

A man of leisure. It's not a bad day's work.

Blake Jones:

So did you have to really go back the next day, or do they take a break?

Speaker 8:

No. So, they we, had to get to the studio in the upper west side at around 5 AM. You start by signing your wife well, my wife

Dan McDowell:

5 AM?

Speaker 8:

I didn't have a wife. Could I send her away now? So sign your life away. I love you, dear. And, then you're in a green room with, some snacks and crap, and they have people come in.

Speaker 8:

And, because that's the other thing. Just by getting to New York, I wasn't guaranteed a spot on the show. They, there was they invited 10 of us, and they drew straws or numbers or whatever. Well, I was drawn 3rd. And because I went over 3 days, only 2 more people got to be on the show.

Speaker 8:

The other 5 had to fly back home with nothing to show for. So I kinda felt bad, but, you

Dan McDowell:

know, I'm not gonna do that. Your own way. So

Speaker 8:

I did. Yeah. When it was Did

Jake Kemp:

those be $78 though?

Speaker 8:

When it was priced $78.

Dan McDowell:

But those people didn't get reimbursed, I'm saying?

Speaker 8:

I don't believe so. When it was in when it wasn't in syndication, they, they sprung, if I'm if I'm speaking correctly, I believe, for your airfare and hotel. But syndication, no. Yeah. I got a dis a millionaire discount at the ambassador or something for $300 a night.

Speaker 8:

But, yeah, there was no no, no gratis.

Dan McDowell:

Is that, like, the nicest hotel you've ever seen?

Speaker 8:

You know, Dan, the the the they crammed 2 double beds in a room that wasn't half the size of the den. You could I'm not kidding. You could barely close the door without hitting the footboard of the bed.

Jake Kemp:

That's pretty normal New York.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. I mean, it is. It's standard New York City, but, no. It was yeah.

Jake Kemp:

You know? Alright. And you appeared with your father?

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So my the way I got on the show was pretty pretty wild. So, my whole family was at Walt Disney World. And, you know, we went to different parks on different days. And it just so happened the day that we went to the MGM park, we get off, like, little trolley or whatever, and we see these huge signs, like, who wants to be a millionaire auditions father's day edition.

Speaker 7:

And to your point earlier, like, this was a stop down TV for our family. My dad was calling you know, at the end of the show, they'd say, call in and do the fastest finger to try to get on.

Jake Kemp:

Oh, yeah. Pass over the baby. The phone.

Speaker 7:

And so, immediately, you know, we're like, oh my god. Like, we gotta do this. And my mom was like, Joe, you are not ruining our vacation, wasting time doing this. And, you know, me, I'm I'm like, come on, mom. We gotta do this.

Speaker 7:

We gotta do this.

Jake Kemp:

Were you, like, 11? Right?

Speaker 7:

I was 12.

Jake Kemp:

12.

Speaker 7:

And and that actually came into play because my sister, who's like a year behind me, she was also like, well, I wanna go on it. Luckily for me, I was the only 1 that was old enough. It was like, you had to be 12 or I think it was 12 to 15 or something. They had, like, a an age bracket on it. So we're like, yo.

Speaker 7:

We're we're gonna do this. And, and at the time, at MGM Studio, they actually had a mock who wants to be a million like, a full on studio there. Like, you could go play the game show, and, like, if you got in the hot seat and won a $1, 000, 000, they would, like, fly you out as a member of the audience. So the you know? But the way it worked for us is we went to this auditorium, and it was all these fathers and sons and daughters.

Speaker 7:

And, basically, they just handed a packet, and it was essentially, like, a written type of, like, fastest finger type questionnaire. And it I can't remember if it was 50 questions or something, and there was, like, a time. So, basically, you filled it out, and then they were gonna grade these to see, like, alright. You're at least smart enough to, like, be on the show. You're not an a complete idiot.

Speaker 7:

And my dad just kinda looked at me and was like, just chill. I'm gonna do this. And I was like, alright. Cool. So we do that part, and, after that, they're, like, naming off the the numbers of the people that go to the next round.

Speaker 7:

And the next round, basically, you know so we got our number called that we did well enough on that. And the next round was we went I mean, it was just behind, like, a curtain on a stage or something, and it they had basically, you know, like, a table with cameras set up and, like, a panel. And they're just kind of asking us questions, and they're you know, I guess it's like, alright. You're you're at least smart enough to be on the show. We wanna make sure that you're not weird or anything like that.

Speaker 7:

They wanna make sure you have personality and stuff. And so, like, I remember 1 of the questions they asked me was, you know, if there was any other game show other than this that you would wanna be on, what would it be? And I don't know if you guys remember The Weakest Link. Of course. You know?

Jake Kemp:

You are.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So The Weakest Link. I was like, man, I'd I'd love to be on that show because I'd love to tell that lady off.

Dan McDowell:

And Yeah. What was her name?

Speaker 7:

She was some British lady. I can't remember. Red hair. Short, little, fiery British woman.

Blake Jones:

But I love that.

Speaker 7:

And so they've loved that. They're all they're all cracking up. And so, like, my dad, you know, he'll tell you to this day. He's like, hey. I got us through the first part, but, Austin, you were the 1 that, like, got us through the second part.

Speaker 7:

Like, they they really ate it up, all your answers and stuff. So and from that point, they're like, hey. You know? We've got your information. We'll call you guys, in the coming days to let you know if you guys are gonna, you know, make it onto the show.

Speaker 7:

And so it was, I think, like, 2 days later, maybe even the next day. So we're still at Walt Disney World, and, my sister, she actually, had a seizure when we were at Walt Disney World, like, at our hotel.

Jake Kemp:

Left turn?

Speaker 7:

Yeah. It's, so because she's diabetic, and so, scary thing. And so her, my brother, who was pretty young at the time, and my mom stayed back at the hotel. Me, my dad, and my youngest sister, who was probably, like, 4 or 5, she's gonna hate me for telling this story, we go out in the park that day, and we're, like, in line to do the safari, like, where you go and look at, like, the actual it's like a full on safari thing. Mhmm.

Speaker 7:

And it's a long line. If you guys have ever been to Disney World, it's such a beating. Everything's a long line. And we're in line, and my dad's phone rings, and he answers his cell phone and, like, immediately starts looking at me. He's like, it's it's millionaire.

Speaker 7:

Like, it's them. It's them. And so he's on the phone for, like, 30 minutes, and, he's like, we're good. Like, yeah. We're gonna be on.

Speaker 7:

We're gonna be on. And so I'm I'm freaking out. The entire time, my little sister is, like, tugging on me, and she's like, Austin, dad, dad. I'm like, shut up, Jenna. Jenna, shut up.

Speaker 7:

And so, like, finally gets off the phone and, you know, we're just losing our mind and we're, you know, on this ride. And then we're like, what the hell is that smell? My sister had shit herself. Oh, no. And she's crying.

Speaker 7:

And that's

Dan McDowell:

why she was yelling down.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. And we're like You

Jake Kemp:

were on the phone with millionaire.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. And so It was Regis. You know, we're we're like telling people in line, like, who wants to be a millionaire? Then we're we're on the right, and we're, like, oh my god. And we're, like, what is that smell?

Speaker 7:

And she just starts crying. And she's like, that's why I was trying to tell you guys I had to use the bathroom. It was like so really, really funny moment. And, yeah, I'm like, you, they flew out my whole family. And, like, my dad was like, you know, you sure, like,

Dan McDowell:

got the Regis area.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That's That's syndication.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. He's like, you sure? We've got we've got 4 kids, you know, not necessarily a small family. And, they're like, no. We're we're gonna fly the whole family up.

Speaker 7:

They paid for the airfare, hotel. We stayed at a place called Hotel Empire. Don't really remember anything. You know, it's pretty normal, New York hotel. So, yeah, that was, how we got on.

Speaker 7:

And then I don't know what it how you guys wanted me to continue or

Blake Jones:

So do you show up, and just like in Jeff's case, like, are you guaranteed to be on the show?

Speaker 7:

No. So it's a little bit different than when he was on because back at that time, it was you actually had, you know, all the contestants. We we knew that we were gonna be, like, 1 of the 10 people that were, like, sitting there.

Blake Jones:

Oh, fastest finger.

Speaker 7:

Right. And then they do the fastest finger. And so it's like, yeah. The you know, you know you're gonna have a chance, but, you know, there's, like, a couple days of filming. So, you know, like he said, if 1 person had gone super long, you know, other people aren't gonna be able to get on.

Speaker 7:

So we were the either second or third people that ended up getting on, I think.

Blake Jones:

Nice. Do you remember your fastest finger question?

Speaker 7:

Of course. So it was by date of birth, oldest to youngest, Steven Tyler, Whitney Houston, Cisco, and Britney Spears.

Blake Jones:

Okay. And did your dad do it?

Speaker 7:

My dad did it. Yeah. So they they had all of the because

Blake Jones:

you're in the crowd.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So I I was sitting behind him and, you know, if you guys watched the clips

Jake Kemp:

I think he mean he read them in order.

Dan McDowell:

I did. I read

Speaker 7:

I I read them in order. But yeah.

Dan McDowell:

I'm still thinking. Tyler. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

So I don't know if you guys watched the the clips that I sent you of our episode, but, when I was sitting behind my dad, I recognized the guy next to me. Because at the time, he was like a big winner. He had won 200 $50, 000, and I was like, aren't you, like, the guy? And he was like, yeah, yeah. And Regis actually ended up shouting him out, like, when we got in the hot seat, but,

Dan McDowell:

Look at him there.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. And so, you know, my dad, you know, prepping us you know, the the production team's prepping us on how everything's gonna work. And, you know, this is just very on brand for my dad, and he was like, you know, I got a question. I've never seen this done, but let's say that we get in the hot seat, and we wanna use our ask the audience question. Am I allowed to say don't answer if you don't know

Blake Jones:

the answer. I've always thought that.

Speaker 7:

Right. And, you know, to our knowledge, we have never seen anybody do that. Yeah. And, you know, we he did end up doing that. And,

Jake Kemp:

That's genius.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. It, unfortunately, didn't really work out. Right.

Dan McDowell:

It was still about very the same percentage of every you know? Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I don't But still, you wanna weed your own garden a little bit. Right.

Blake Jones:

Okay. So the audience does vote.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So they

Blake Jones:

they have these thought they they make up those No.

Speaker 7:

No. No. They have, like, these little box

Speaker 5:

things.

Blake Jones:

I've seen them boxed.

Speaker 7:

Button. I just thought

Blake Jones:

they were dummy buttons.

Dan McDowell:

Did you get to do that for another?

Speaker 7:

Maybe. I I can't I can't remember necessarily because they you know, we we wrapped up in, yeah,

Jake Kemp:

on 12.

Speaker 7:

And 12. We wrapped up in 1 day, but they actually did have us on the second day, which was from what I remember, it was the same day, and they just, like, had us change clothes.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Yeah. That's right.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So, like, they they I did sit in the audience for, like, the second day of filming, and Regis, like, pointed us out. Like, oh, there's the blonde Waters family. They were, you know, big winners yesterday. And

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Because there were a few times where we just says, hey. Enjoy your night out on the town. We'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 8:

Right. Right.

Blake Jones:

There's no way.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Yeah. And, Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

I once went to, we have a fortune taping. We saw 10 shows or something.

Speaker 7:

Oh, wow. Wow. 10 shows.

Speaker 8:

Who did the entire Jeez. $1, 000, 000 movie week on that 1 Friday that I was there. Wow. The entire week.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. It was it was in, July in Grand Prairie. We're all wearing shorts. You know?

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

And it was Christmas week.

Speaker 8:

Christmas week.

Dan McDowell:

So, yeah, they the sets got a fire. It's got a the tree, you know, all that kind of stuff. So but if they pan the crowd, you see everybody wearing shorts.

Speaker 8:

It's really kinda weird.

Blake Jones:

So I had a I had a question and whoever wants to answer answer. I've always been amused by the the phone a friend because they always answer on the 3rd ring. So do you have to give them a list of people that you can call, and is there an editing process there? Like, I've always wondered what if they don't need to.

Speaker 9:

They're all

Dan McDowell:

ready because he's like, it's Regis calling. They're like, oh, hey, Regis. Why no? But Like, I'm not surprised. Like, what?

Blake Jones:

Do you have to tip them what is that what's that process?

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So they give I think, you know, they asked for, you know, hey, you should probably give us, like, 5 names and phone numbers, and you need to tell them to be on the phone between this hour and this hour.

Speaker 9:

That's why

Dan McDowell:

you're thinking of all your smartest friends.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Right. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

You know, who does crosswords?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Speaker 7:

And, you know, there there was somebody that, it's like a pretty famous millionaire moment. This 1 person was so confident. They were like, no. I only need 1 person. And the guy didn't answer.

Speaker 9:

Oh.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. So, and, like, for you know, again, I don't know if you guys watched the clips I sent you, but the when we called like, our our, $32, 000 question was, like, really hard. It was something about

Speaker 8:

elements and words that I had never heard of.

Speaker 7:

My dad called 1 of his STANN0US. And it's like, alright. This guy thank god. Thank god. Thank god.

Speaker 7:

Thank god. Thank god. Thank god. Thank god. Thank god.

Speaker 7:

Thank god. Thank god. Thank god. Thank god. Thank god.

Speaker 7:

Thank god. STANN0US. And it's like, alright. This guy thank god. Like,

Speaker 8:

you know

Blake Jones:

Those people are cool.

Dan McDowell:

Here, let me play a clip from your show too, if we can, video man. Because this leads into a different question that I have about you too. So here we go. Bleach.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. My buddies were like, you're gonna show up in the den with with the frosted tips.

Speaker 8:

Frosted tips. I was

Speaker 7:

like, no. I'll just wear the

Blake Jones:

And this is like o 1 when it

Speaker 7:

This was this was 2001. So, I was this was the summer before I was going into 7th grade, I believe.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. So this is right after the the tough question there, I guess.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. At 32, 000.

Speaker 7:

My brother's, like, 6 4 now.

Dan McDowell:

Let's put that little part in the beginning so we can kinda see.

Speaker 5:

Water that made it for $32, 000 and still have a lifeline left. Very exciting. So let's talk about it Now, what are you gonna be when you grow up, Boston?

Speaker 11:

I want to be a professional soccer player or a lawyer.

Speaker 5:

Either 1, Want a nice big office when you're a lawyer? Lot of secretaries?

Speaker 11:

Yeah. That's

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. III found that very creepy Yeah.

Speaker 7:

When I

Jake Kemp:

was watching that this morning.

Speaker 5:

Lot of secretaries.

Dan McDowell:

Lot of secretaries. Smack a little tush.

Speaker 8:

It is a chat. Different side.

Speaker 7:

Free free me too era.

Dan McDowell:

You an ass man

Speaker 5:

or a

Speaker 8:

little bit? Why do

Speaker 7:

you think you choose?

Speaker 1:

Are soccer players known to have a lot of secretaries?

Jake Kemp:

I think he was leaning into the lawyer part for sure.

Dan McDowell:

So I want to follow-up.

Speaker 7:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Which 1 of those are you closer to?

Speaker 7:

Neither. My brother my younger brother is actually, you know, he ended up with the the brains of the family. He's a lawyer up in New York City. Super super bright guy. But

Dan McDowell:

You're a man of leisure?

Speaker 7:

No. I, I actually work for, an investment real estate firm. We we're like a large wholesale real estate company. So, Jake, if you're ever looking for another late Granbury house that hasn't been, you know, christened, I'm your man. But yeah.

Speaker 7:

No. We're, we're, like, the largest wholesale operation in in DFW, and 1 of the largest in the country. So I've been doing

Dan McDowell:

selling to, people from Vegas?

Speaker 7:

We do have an office in Vegas.

Dan McDowell:

No. I mean, aren't aren't they buying up all this property to build casinos now?

Speaker 7:

Yeah. I mean, III That

Dan McDowell:

was just a joke that fell flat.

Jake Kemp:

How many how many secretaries? Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Did you get secretaries?

Speaker 7:

No. No. We're, it's yeah. I mean, it's not like a traditional real estate office. Like, what would what you would envision at all.

Speaker 7:

I've been doing it for, like, 9 plus years. But, you know, it's it's a bunch of guys in their twenties and thirties. We got some 40 year old guys, but, you know, like, when we first started, you know, when I first started like 9 years ago, it was closer to like a frat house type thing. It was just all dudes and, you know, just

Jake Kemp:

Do you use this as like a pick up line?

Speaker 7:

That I was on Who Wants to be a Millionaire?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I would.

Speaker 7:

I don't know if I ever liked You do?

Speaker 9:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. Well, did. Did. Let let me click

Speaker 7:

did. What do

Jake Kemp:

you have then?

Speaker 8:

I whip out that YouTube clip faster than me. Yeah. Damn right.

Dan McDowell:

Meredith knows me.

Jake Kemp:

Well, I

Speaker 8:

was hoping you were gonna

Speaker 7:

the play date question where I actually had, you know, where the $16, 000 question where I answered Kirsten Dunst. That was my

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. That was your big moment to shine. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

That was something that was definitely pretty popular. And, you know, when I I went to Coppell and, we at the time, there's 3 different middle schools. And so, like, I had people from other middle schools, you know, like, hey. You know, I have my friend over at Middle School West, like, you know, they wanna talk to you and like, oh, you're the guy from millionaire and stuff and

Jake Kemp:

I didn't even think about that. Like, going back to school. Yeah. I've never been on a national television show. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

You have to be a king.

Speaker 7:

Oh, we we had, we I don't know. It might have been front page in the Dallas Morning News, like an article about us. We had an article about us in the Coppell Gazette because I mean, seriously, this was Woah.

Dan McDowell:

Woah. The Coppell Gazette.

Speaker 5:

The Gazette? Yes.

Speaker 7:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's when I knew we made it. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

You know, the Dallas Morning News. Come on. Oh, yeah. They put

Speaker 8:

me on the Dallas Morning News. I almost forgot about that.

Speaker 9:

Yeah.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. We, like, 1 of our family friends, you know, went and got that, like, professionally, like, cut out and framed for us. So that's I think it's still hanging up somewhere in my my parents' house. But, yeah. It it was definitely a huge moment.

Speaker 7:

And, you know, my my parents, probably gonna regret saying this, but my parents had, when I was, like, really young, they they had signed me up for, like, children's modeling. Like, I was in, like, JCPenney

Dan McDowell:

You were second place in the beautiful baby contest according to Regis on the show.

Speaker 8:

My dad

Speaker 7:

my dad loves loves that story. I'm not sure. I don't know why. Yeah. I think they my dad must have told them because he had that ready to go.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Like yeah. That I we we used to have, like, a

Dan McDowell:

Well, you're a beautiful 12 year old

Speaker 8:

now. Less. What if

Dan McDowell:

I go backstage during this?

Jake Kemp:

Ain't gonna snag so much secretary puss. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

But,

Speaker 7:

so I'd, like, you know, done, like, some, like, JCPenney ads when I was

Dan McDowell:

Let's play Ulta Boy.

Speaker 7:

Probably, like, 5 years old.

Speaker 8:

And That's what a fast finger will get you. Yes. Yeah. In my I've been told mine are pretty fast. Sorry.

Speaker 8:

Sorry. Sorry.

Speaker 7:

No. No. You're fine. But, you know, my dad was saying, he's like, hey. Just wait.

Speaker 7:

Like, when this this airs, maybe maybe you're gonna get rediscovered. And I'm like, dad, there's no way. Well, sure enough, somebody calls our house, like, the night it answers. And it was like this his daughter worked at Kim Dawson, which is like a large agency. Large agency.

Speaker 7:

And so I ended up, like, doing that for a couple years. And, do you remember HitClips? Of course. I was in a HitClips commercial. Like, it was the most random shit.

Speaker 7:

Like, I mean and, you know, looking back on it, like, I hated doing it because it's, like, it's not really cool to you're in middle school. Everyone's awful towards each other, and you're saying, hey. Yeah. I'm a model.

Dan McDowell:

I'm a model.

Speaker 7:

Like, oh, that that's, like, easy target practice, you know. And so, like, you know, I'm I'm constantly getting pulled out of class and stuff. And I'm like, oh, yeah. I just got a doctor's appointment or something. And, like, well, the this kid that, I ended up you know, once I got to high school, met him in high school, he's like, man, III swear.

Speaker 7:

Because when I did it the second time around, they had these huge posters hanging up a JCPenney of me on, like, a skateboard. And he and and he was like, weren't you the kid that and I was like, no. That no.

Jake Kemp:

Not me?

Speaker 7:

That that wasn't me, man.

Jake Kemp:

Never been on a skateboard.

Speaker 7:

Stop talking about that. But Never even been photographed. Yeah. But, you know, looking back on, like, man, I shouldn't have been, like, so embarrassed about that because it was such crazy money. Like, I got, like, $2 to miss school for 2 days for that commercial.

Speaker 7:

Like Well,

Jake Kemp:

you didn't get anything.

Speaker 7:

No. No. No. That was actually, like no. My parents weren't taking that money.

Speaker 7:

They were, like, putting that aside for for me for sure.

Blake Jones:

It's OU money.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. That is OU money.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

And I feel bad because my my winnings went I went a totally different direction than that. Oh, yeah? What what did you do

Speaker 5:

with me?

Speaker 8:

Well, you know, the the first well, and and I don't know how they did it with yours, but, they sent me I I was living in an apartment at, at the time. I go to check the mail.

Speaker 9:

I actually

Dan McDowell:

You want 250 grand.

Speaker 8:

250, 000. And it happened to be my birthday. It was March 23rd. And I go, you know, the little dinky mailboxes you open, there's an envelope. It says Castle Rock Productions and but, well, there's no way this is an actual check.

Speaker 8:

There was the check for $250, 000. I go to Bank of America. The the guy laughs at me. I I kinda slivered across the counter. He's like, what do you want me to do with this?

Speaker 8:

So, well, let's start by

Blake Jones:

I'll take it out. Have

Speaker 8:

a conversation fingers. Let's go. And, and so he goes back and gets

Speaker 9:

somebody, and they come out, and they

Speaker 8:

start apologizing. Oh, can I apologizing? Oh, can I get you a glass

Speaker 9:

of water?

Speaker 8:

Oh, sure. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. When they realized

Speaker 8:

that I wasn't the toilet. Garbage. Yeah. And, because, you know, now they don't do it that way. They annuitize.

Speaker 8:

If you win more than 50, it's, you know, annuitized. Where, in my case, I got the full amount. And even though I had some debauchery a little after I got the, the check lots, There you then you had a whole year to then pay the taxes. And so because I invested at a good time, I made in, investing what I owe the IRS, which was $67, 344. I'll never forget writing that check.

Dan McDowell:

So they give you 250? A check for 250?

Speaker 8:

Check for 250, 000. Okay.

Dan McDowell:

Well believe it. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

And I will go down to the bank like it was my check from Taco Bell or whatever. I wonder

Dan McDowell:

how many people end up in tax problems.

Speaker 7:

Oh. Gross.

Dan McDowell:

Because I could see that yeah. Yeah. They're like, I'll pick

Jake Kemp:

it. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

And I I you know, I got the numbers with CPA guys, so I I kinda had him sorta take care of all that. But, yeah. So but, anyway, I well, I was already done with college, so I guess that's why I was a little different, but not as wholesome as maybe as other people might have spent it. But, had a hell of a lot of fun.

Dan McDowell:

Do you yeah. Do you feel like you still have any of that money?

Speaker 8:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. I I've invested pretty well, and I'm married well, so that that helps, especially

Mike McCarthy:

with a man of leisure.

Speaker 8:

Yes. Of course. It helps a lot.

Blake Jones:

I feel like I want Jeff's life.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. It doesn't suck.

Blake Jones:

It doesn't sound like it.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. So here, let's play this other video. You you referenced it, but it's the, which actress played the head cheerleader in the 2000 film Bring It On?

Speaker 5:

Thanks. Meet us some up.

Speaker 11:

See. Here's the dogs.

Dan McDowell:

So now dad doesn't believe

Speaker 8:

you? Yeah.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Not at all.

Dan McDowell:

Did you And you had to take him through the steps

Speaker 8:

on Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Why it's true. Not on. But you knew this? You had seen that movie? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. So you're locked in.

Jake Kemp:

We'd all seen this movie.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Really? She

Blake Jones:

was probably in the spank bank.

Speaker 7:

So, yeah, right there

Speaker 8:

She was definitely I've

Speaker 11:

never heard

Speaker 8:

in the spank bank.

Speaker 11:

Dunce, I know I saw her on the 2001 MTV Music Awards, and I knew that she was the girl from Bring It On, and they said that that was her name. You're positive. I'm positive.

Blake Jones:

I don't think dad's kidding. Right?

Speaker 7:

Oh, watch this. The pressure he puts on here.

Speaker 5:

$16, 000 we're talking about. I will go with Austin. It's on you.

Dan McDowell:

Boy, he's he's thirsty right on the

Speaker 5:

Man. Kirsten Dunne's final answer. That you

Speaker 8:

can't be in trouble.

Jake Kemp:

I love you, son. Shit. You're still in the house.

Dan McDowell:

I love you.

Speaker 7:

And and, like, so 1 of the we you couldn't hear it there, but, 1 of the choices was Jennifer Love Hewitt, and I mixed her up with Sarah Jessica Parker. You know, she's like a woman with 3 names. Like and, you know, so we had, like, a big watching party at our house, like, when this aired. And, you know, they told us don't tell anybody how much you won, you know. You have

Jake Kemp:

to you both have to sign something.

Speaker 8:

Say

Speaker 7:

I don't know if we yeah. But, like, you know, know, so we have people Oh, that's interesting. Guessing numbers and stuff. And, but so I mixed up Jennifer Love Hewitt. I was like, oh, wasn't that the girl on Sex and the City?

Speaker 7:

And my mom, like, when we had our party was like, he's never watched that show.

Speaker 8:

Like, he's like, yeah.

Speaker 7:

But and I hadn't, like, I don't know. But, yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. The the father son thing so every every couple had a kid. There was a kid. A little kid.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. From, like, 12 to 15, it

Dan McDowell:

was either Because your first questions were really easy. It was like, what shape is a pizza? Yeah. And then you had to use 5050. I was disappointed in you guys and especially your dad because it was from the book out the outsiders who is the older brother's name.

Jake Kemp:

For

Speaker 7:

soda pop. Right?

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Soda pop. I thought that's kind of a

Speaker 7:

Well, and and my dad says in the question, he never read the book. Mhmm. I read that book for school the next year. Like, that that was 7th grade reading for me. And I was just like when they're like, oh, we're reading The Outsiders.

Speaker 7:

I'm like, goddamn it. Like but, we You had a

Dan McDowell:

blow of 5050?

Speaker 7:

No. No. We didn't use the 5050 on that 1.

Jake Kemp:

No. No. No.

Speaker 7:

No. The 5050, that was like another moment where, you know, me and Regis kinda had a a back and forth, not like, you know, butting heads or anything, but, you know, they I don't know if my dad again, if he had asked them it probably was my dad asking, knowing him, Asking the producers because you guys recently played, like, the Norm McDonald clip, I think, where Norm says, I know if I say it's between a and b and I use my 5050, a and b are gonna be the ones left. Ones. Yeah. And that's exactly what happened to him.

Speaker 7:

And so I think my dad asked them, like, hey. How how does this work? Like, should we not say what we're thinking it is? And the lady said and, again, you know, who knows if this is true? But what she told us was, no.

Speaker 7:

The way it works is it's like a a poll, you know, that they ask x amount of people this question, and it it's like, the 2 answers that are left are the right answer and the second most guessed answer. And so

Dan McDowell:

So it is trying to make it tough.

Speaker 7:

Right. And so the 1 that we used it on was about, the Ephesians.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yeah. Like, tur Turkey

Speaker 7:

or Syria. Turkey, Iraq, Kuwait, and maybe Saudi Arabia or something. Syria. Syria. That's right.

Speaker 7:

And so, so we use 5050 on that, and it was between Turkey, which is obviously a huge country, Kuwait, very small. And my dad's like, oh, it's gotta be Turkey. And then that's when I bring up what that lady told us, like, hey. Why would Kuwait be there? Why why would they be, you know, why would people be guessing Kuwait?

Speaker 7:

It's a small country. And Regis is like, what are you talking about? And I was like, listen, man. I'm like, this is what she told us when

Jake Kemp:

You're a smart kid. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. And, Regis just was like, Austin, I've been doing this for years. You and I switched seats, like, you you have this more figured out than I do. And I was wrong. You were wrong.

Speaker 7:

But turkey, but, like, the reasoning I felt was pretty sound and, but, yeah, luckily, my dad trusted his gut on that 1.

Dan McDowell:

When they were going over biography too, they were saying you tested well and some were you in Duke tip?

Speaker 7:

I think that's what it was called.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. My daughter was in Duke tip. She Did Did you travel or no? No. I never You didn't go to

Speaker 7:

a college or something. For it. Like, I remember, you know, my dad and I went.

Dan McDowell:

I think it's a scam a little bit.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. You gotta pay money.

Dan McDowell:

You have to be kinda smart.

Speaker 7:

Hey, dude. I'm, like, you know, I'm I'm not an idiot by any means, but I'm, like, I'm not

Dan McDowell:

But yeah.

Speaker 7:

Some boy genius.

Dan McDowell:

But it's a, hey. Take this test, and if you place, we will allow you to spend $2, 000

Speaker 7:

That's exactly what that's

Dan McDowell:

what I was gonna say.

Speaker 7:

So my daughter was allowed.

Jake Kemp:

We had something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. They were offering trips to Australia or something.

Dan McDowell:

You're done. Oh, look. You got published in, your poem got published in a book. You could buy this book for Right.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Yeah. $49.

Jake Kemp:

Would you like to buy a plaque?

Speaker 7:

Yeah. I think we went to 1 of them and realized it was

Dan McDowell:

a scam. Number 12 radio show. Remember, we were offered, we could have bought a plaque. Sure. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Same thing with your, your grad degree. They're like, you wanna give us $300 to have this framed? Oh, really? No. I don't.

Dan McDowell:

We could hang it in the studio, man. Right next to Sinbad.

Jake Kemp:

That sounds great.

Dan McDowell:

Geek's graduate.

Speaker 7:

Oh my god. Put it behind you. So

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. It's real official. Alright. Well, anything else to get into with this, or should we move on to Joel Corey soon?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. That's cool. It's just kinda cool living through your experiences, for a show that we've all watched, you know, a million times. No pun intended.

Dan McDowell:

Did you say you got recognized from it, Jeff, for did you actually get, you know, you'd be out and somebody be like, hey, wait.

Speaker 8:

Are you still on TV? Weirdest 1 too was you know, obviously, I lived in the air at the time and so, again, this is Myspace. Not that it would've whether Myspace, Facebook, whatever. Doesn't matter. But I and I'm not saying this there's no bragging there.

Speaker 8:

I've just got I don't know how many messages a day, and some included some photos of,

Jake Kemp:

Talking about nudes.

Speaker 8:

There we go. Oh. Coeds.

Jake Kemp:

It's a quarter of a milli, brother.

Speaker 8:

Come on now.

Speaker 7:

That's better than mine.

Speaker 8:

So I go to Baton Rouge, of all places, and meet up with this chick at some, I don't know, really shitty Cajun restaurant.

Dan McDowell:

So someone had DM'd you or something. DM. And you're like, I'll go to Baton Rouge.

Speaker 8:

I don't know. So what the hell else do I have to do? It'd be a man of leisure. What if I go to?

Jake Kemp:

$1, 000, 000 and he's single.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. Right? And so we're at the bar at this really shitty Cajun restaurant, and I have this family of 5 come up to me, and I don't even think they I think they just saw my profile. I don't even know if they saw me straight on. Said, oh my god.

Speaker 8:

You're the millionaire guy. I'm like, holy shit. I'm in Louisiana. How is this even possible? Anyway

Dan McDowell:

They got TV here. They got TV.

Speaker 8:

They got TV. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

I didn't know

Speaker 8:

if they knew what that was. Yeah. So Yeah. A few places here and there around the area here. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Well, how'd your experience go?

Dan McDowell:

I was gonna say, though, it must be pretty easy to close a deal if you're the guy who had just won $250.

Jake Kemp:

You know? For sure. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

She's you know, you're it's kinda like being out with Monica Lewinsky. You're just waiting for a deal. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. But you're not the president.

Speaker 5:

Right. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

No. I've got those fast fingers too.

Dan McDowell:

But she DM'd you. She sent you a naked photo. You know that date's gonna go well. Yeah. It's I mean, it's not like, oh my gosh.

Jake Kemp:

Will she

Speaker 8:

Yeah. Right.

Dan McDowell:

Will she put out?

Speaker 8:

Will she put out? There there you go.

Jake Kemp:

I've not heard that term and

Dan McDowell:

I know. But that's certainly what you were thinking at the time.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't, I didn't have Myspace at the time. But literally for for several years after the fact, I would get random messages on Facebook, like, maybe a decade after the fact. Unfortunately, it wasn't similar to yours.

Speaker 7:

I was getting messaged by, like, creepy old dudes.

Speaker 8:

Oh, no. Blue Pearl Moose. Yeah. Like, oh, you got a boy band.

Speaker 7:

I'm like, you were such a good looking kid. Like

Dan McDowell:

You really were.

Speaker 8:

And yeah. I don't know

Speaker 7:

I don't know what happened, but, I I got I, you know, I I would get recognized too from time to time, but 1 that, like, stood out was, you know, this was pretty soon after it aired. It had been that same summer. I was, like, on a cruise with my grandpa and my, 2 other cousins. He took all 3 of us, and we're sitting at dinner, and there's, like, a family, like, 25 yards away and just, like, staring at me. And I it's like, you know, I'm looking.

Speaker 7:

I'm like, dude, this is really weird. And, like, they finally, like, come up and, like, I'm I'm so sorry. Like, but were you the the little kid on who wants to be millionaire earlier this summer? I was like, yeah. It was.

Speaker 7:

But so, yeah. It it was definitely cool to to get recognized. Would have been a lot cooler to be

Blake Jones:

be single

Speaker 7:

and, like, you know, like, older, but, you know, it it's cool.

Dan McDowell:

So you guys know what Jake feels like now since he Always getting recognized. Gets recognized?

Speaker 8:

Oh, man. Mhmm.

Dan McDowell:

I'm out there with a jersey with my name on it. Right.

Jake Kemp:

He's recognized. Right. Dumb zone tumbler. They're like, Dan Quinn.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. Well, stick around if you want. And if you don't, then, you know, we are not the boss of you. So thanks for being here, guys.

Speaker 7:

Hey. Thanks for having us.

Speaker 8:

Awesome. Thank you. Absolutely. Blake, especially

Speaker 9:

The Duns are. Duns are.

Speaker 5:

Let me ask you something. If I say, hey. I think it may be Madrid or Lisbon, and then the 50.50 comes, it's not gonna say Madrid or Lisbon, is it? You don't know. Okay.

Speaker 5:

But there's not a dude in the back, aren't I?

Speaker 8:

No.

Speaker 5:

These are locked in. It's been locked in for months. 5050. Let's do it. Computer, take away 2 of those wrong answers.

Speaker 8:

You're listening to the dumb zone.

Blake Jones:

Ragdoll cat.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. Oh. We have, Jeff Jones and Austin Waters. They won't leave. They're still sitting here with us.

Speaker 8:

I'm squatting.

Dan McDowell:

And I'm kind of doing a reset because we have a, guest on the line. And it's, me, Dan, him, Jake, him, Blake. And now we'll welcome a guy who we've, had on our show before. He is a former NFL agent, and, he's got an awesome podcast, and he writes awesome articles. His podcast is called Inside the Cap.

Dan McDowell:

He is the great Joel Corey to talk to us about the all too early cowboys off season and, other things going on. Hi, Joel. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 9:

Hi. How you doing?

Dan McDowell:

Good, man. How are you?

Speaker 9:

Oh, doing well.

Dan McDowell:

What is your fandom growing up?

Speaker 9:

Actually, I love Tony Dorsett as a kid. So I was a Cowboys fan as a kid. Quit being a Cowboys fan when Tom Lander was fired. And as an agent, did not root for teams rooted for clients and rooted against organizations which were difficult to deal with. But now 1 thing that I follow, that's North Carolina basketball.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. Wait. So, like, for instance, what organizations might be difficult to deal with? More difficult than others?

Speaker 9:

We we had Patriots clients, but I was never a fan of the Patriots. So that was conflicted when we had guys like Troy Brown. Happy to see them win a Super Bowl for them to have success, but really don't want the organization. So it was kind of a mixed bag. Did not like the cowboys in the payday, because we represent Jimmy Smith, and there's some acrimony there.

Jake Kemp:

You know, it's interesting you mentioned this. I just lent, Dan, the Marvin Miller autobiography. What is your, do do you have any sort of not memory, but, like, have you read much about Marvin Miller and and his efforts?

Speaker 9:

Oh, I know who he is. I I know exactly who he is. The he's been the best union leader that, for any play player association that I can recall. Too bad that the NFL PA doesn't have its own Marvin Miller. Probably should be in the baseball hall thing.

Jake Kemp:

Do you think that's because of the length of the careers?

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Because in baseball, you had guys who would school the new generation on how things work so you had union solidarity, and the last CBA was barely ratified. And the big problem is there are 2 competing interests. The star players have their own agenda and the rank and file have their own. And you throw dang enough carrots at the rank and file, you can get something to pass, which may not be in everyone's best interest.

Speaker 9:

You've seen that in basketball as well. That's how you got salary maximums after the 1990 97, 98 season when you had the lockout.

Jake Kemp:

And I know that you wrote something just to to get to the cowboys here, real quick, that you wrote something that really is similar to what you've told us the last couple times you've talked to us, which is that with Dak Prescott and his cap number of nearly $60, 000, 000 next year, he really does kind of have the team over a barrel, and this could not have gone worse, heading into this off season. That the taste in everyone's mouth is so sour, and it feels like at some point in the next 2 months, we're going to get the press release that the cowboys have extended Dak Prescott.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. I'd be surprised that didn't happen. And and, yeah, I get it. That that was a stinker. His stats are misleading.

Speaker 9:

It was all in garbage time. He was thoroughly outplayed by a 1st year starter. You're not supposed not not supposed to happen. But that being said, the day that contract was signed, as long as Dak didn't turn into the second coming at Carson Wentz consistently in 2024, there was gonna be a reckoning, and he was gonna have all the leverage in the world, not only because of the cap number, which is so high because of 3 restructures where you kick the can down the road to create caprone. You've got the no trade clause, and you can't stick a franchise tag or transition tag on him after the c after the 2024 season.

Speaker 9:

So the way the contract was structured was always set up as long as Dack played reasonably well. And he had to bounce back gear from last year when he was throwing interceptions left and right where he's gonna be an MVP finals. Not that people care about that because of the playoff debacle, but that still gives them a ton of leverage.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. And if as you're you just put out an article about DAC too, just today, I think. And

Speaker 9:

yesterday. Yesterday.

Dan McDowell:

Yesterday. I apologize. But, just the whole thought that last time he got the big deal, this deal that he's on, which is an awesome deal, he was coming off an injury and you had no idea how he might perform or how that might affect him going forward. So, certainly, this time, after coming off the regular season he just threw out there, I I would think a playoff loss like this is much less to worry about than the injury he had had that he had.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. That's the point I was gonna raise. Good good point. Because he he was he became the 2nd highest paid player in the league. It it changed because other deals were done, shortly thereafter.

Speaker 9:

But if you're gonna make him the 2nd highest paid player in the league coming off of a significant injury, then what do you think is gonna happen this time around? He took a step forward in the regular season. I don't think this is the old proverbial 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards with the playoff game. So if you made the 2nd house fight player last time, that's currently Justin Herbert at 52 and a half $1, 000, 000 per year. I've Todd France as long as, that's his agent.

Speaker 9:

Dak empowers Todd France, dude, what he sees fit. He's gonna be asking for the sun, moon, and the stars, notwithstanding the playoff loss. And he's gonna insist that Dak becomes the highest paid player in the league, eclipsing, Joe Burrow's 50 5, 000, 000 per year, and it wouldn't surprise me if he's shooting for his target number would be 60.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. So why does he have him over a barrel, though, when you say he, you know, if he asks for everything he wants, he's going to get it. What what are what are the options, I guess, with the cowboys here?

Speaker 9:

Well, I was when I, put a tweet out the other day, which basically Monday reminding people of the setup, I had significant people saying, cut it. Let's let's roll with Cooper Rush and Trey Lance. That's crazy. You are not going to cut a guy who is, in most people's opinion, a top 10 quarterback coming off of the best year of his career. There's no good options to do that anyway because you would have $61, 915, 000 of dead money.

Speaker 9:

You could split it up over 2 years. But in order to do that, you have to use a post June 1 designation. You have to carry his full $59, 450, 000 cap hit until June 2nd, which defeats the purpose of why you would try to do an extension now because you wanna lower the cap before March 17th when the roster bonus of 5, 000, 000 is due because you wanna lower the cap number so you'll be able to make some other moves. The no trade clause means you can't ship them off if you wanted to. And even if you he did consent to a trade and you you would be getting 2024 draft capital back in return, the dead money is 61.915000000 because there is no such thing as a post June 1 designation with the trade.

Speaker 9:

Now if you were having trouble getting a deal done, you have sticker shock, you have voiding 25 and 2026 contract years in place. The contract has automatic conversion rights. You could kick the can down the road by restructuring again, and a maximum restructure would give you almost 22, 000, 000 in cap room. The problem is if he walked out the door next year, you've got $52, 380, 000 of 2025 debt money. There's no good options here.

Blake Jones:

So is it pay deck 60 or pay no 1 60 that you're this around $60, 000, 000 a year figure keeps coming up.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Well, you're probably gonna have to make the highest paid player in the league. That's Joe Burrow at 55, 000, 000. I would see kind of France going well. The max value of Burrow's contract with the incentives is averages 56, 250, 000 per year.

Speaker 9:

I don't think you get them below that provided that Dac is letting Todd France do what he wants. Obviously, the agent works for the client, but Jack didn't get the no trade clause, didn't get the provision where you can't restrict him if he plays out his contract, What if

Dan McDowell:

What if he said he wants a fully guaranteed contract, much like Lamar Jackson was trying for last year? And Deshaun Gutt?

Speaker 9:

Well, if you're gonna go the fully guaranteed contract route, then you'd be given a discount on the average. And had things gone well and you were still playing, I could see that being more of a viable option because I was gonna write a Dak Prescott article whenever the season ended. I was contemplating that it wasn't gonna be until you lose to San Francisco, and then it was gonna be give them 2 options, take it or leave it, 60, 000, 000 per year, fully guaranteed contract for less than that. I don't think a fully guaranteed I think that may be a bridge too far.

Dan McDowell:

What's your opinion of the what's your opinion of the job that Todd France did on this deal?

Speaker 9:

Oh, great job. Great job. 1, the cowboys made a mistake because they didn't do it when it would have been its its cheapest, which was when he was heading into his 4th year, when he hadn't made any real money, they should have made it the first priority that off season would have been under 35, 000, 000 per year. They're asking for the extra year, which was the big sticking point 1 in 5 years. Dallas likes new long deals.

Speaker 9:

I'm gonna see that probably as an issue with CD Lam, because we saw, Diggs do a 5 year extension. Had to plan on the franchise tag, and then he signed for 4. So, basically, franchise tag plus 4 New Year's is 5 years, but you got that clause in there where you can't franchise them, which effectively means you have to address it in 2024 anyway. So he's

Dan McDowell:

Diggs has that, you said? I'm sorry. Did you say Diggs has the franchise tag in the in the clause? No.

Speaker 9:

No. No. No. I said I said no. I said Diggs has a 5 5 year I meant to say 5 New Years on his extension.

Speaker 9:

Okay.

Dan McDowell:

In terms

Speaker 9:

of length of contract, Cowboys winning long long deals.

Jake Kemp:

Do you think that, they're about to make Lamb the highest paid receiver in the league as well?

Speaker 9:

If they well, that's misleading because it's 30, 000, 000 per year, Tyreek Hill, but that's not real. Because he's got 45, 000, 000 in the last year he's never gonna see. So really, it was a 3 year extension at 25, 000, 000 per year. So if CD Lam's trying to say, I want 30, this is gonna be a hard deal to do. It's really Cooper Kupp who's slightly under 27.

Speaker 9:

If he does become the highest paid, it'll be short lived because Justin Jefferson will top it. If I'm CeeDee Lamb, I wait for Justin Jefferson and let that deal get in the marketplace. And if I can't beat it, I try to get close to it.

Jake Kemp:

What would be it what would be the, argument against the Cowboys moving a little bit of other money around and just letting Dak play out 1 more year on his current deal? Like, I know that they're 14 or 15 over right now, but couldn't they just gather another year of data?

Speaker 9:

Closer to 20 once they got, everything in place.

Jake Kemp:

Over?

Speaker 5:

With

Speaker 9:

the top 51. It's gonna yeah. It's gonna be closer to 20. It's depending upon where the cap comes in.

Jake Kemp:

So that may be tough. But, you know, I'd rather Yeah.

Speaker 9:

But every every dollar that you let's say you do a small restructure, you're adding to the dead money next year if you make him play it out. If you make him if you make him play it out, he might just walk. Because you don't get good quarterbacks hitting the open market in their prime. The last time we had that was, Kirk Cousins. And what happened with Cousins?

Speaker 9:

He became the highest paid player in the league, had lost his only playoff game, and got a fully guaranteed contract. So Todd France would be enticed by that. You put let's say, Dak has a year comparable to this 1 regular season, and he goes to the open market, what do you think happens then?

Jake Kemp:

I guess you're right. He truly has them over payroll.

Dan McDowell:

We always thought we always thought that, Zeke had, like, the best contract we could ever imagine. And Well, Zeke was smart. Yeah.

Speaker 9:

Zeke was smart. I'm a running back. I got a short shelf life. He knew that Emmett was able to get a deal after they started o and 2 as a running back. He he assessed the situation perfectly.

Speaker 9:

They fell off a cliff as soon as he signed his contract.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Yeah. And he

Jake Kemp:

had those year ahead rolling guarantees. Right. Which always really hemmed the Cowboys up cap wise.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. But then you started you you restructured him as well, so you made the debt money worse. That's the cowboys' way of dealing with things. They're not as extreme as the saints and now the eagles, but they restructure a ton of contracts and take a credit card approach to managing the cap, which is going to ultimately be fine in the long run as long as you don't have something like the pandemic or the cap drops precipitously 1 year. Because if the cap's gonna go up at least 8, 9, 10 percentage, you should be able to outrun, kicking a can down the road.

Jake Kemp:

6, 000, 000 for Zeke next year, by the way.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, still off his contract? Is cowboy deal? Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

That is a good deal. Yeah. This stuff is so confusing, and I always think, oh, man. Once that guy oh, look at Aaron Rodgers just signed with the Packers. Well, that ensures he'll be a Packer for the, well, then they can trade it somehow.

Speaker 9:

Well, that contract was structured in a weird way. They'd have these option bonuses where the longer he stayed, it got worse in terms of the dead money because option bonuses are treated like signing bonus and they're prorated, and he had multiple option bonuses. So getting rid of him when they did was the least amount of cap pain they're ever gonna have to get rid of them, and it it worked out because the guy waiting waiting in the wings could actually play, which is another thing which Dallas doesn't have someone that you think could actually be the successor.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah.

Speaker 9:

Trey Lance was was dealt for a reason, and they gave, 5, 000, 000 guarantee to Sam Donald for a reason. Obviously, we weren't happy with Lance as a backup.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. No. It's, I thought that was a curious trade that the Cowboys made. What what's, Denver gonna do with Russell Wilson?

Speaker 9:

Oh, he's gone. The this Sean Payton didn't like him from day 1. He inherited him and you could tell by all his, off season comments that they didn't want him around.

Dan McDowell:

But but what's what's that monetary imp you know? What what's gonna happen there? It seems like he just signed a new has his new deal even kicked in?

Speaker 9:

No. This will be 2024, be the first new year because they did it with 2 years left. This is 1 of the rare instances that if you give up a ton of draft capital for someone, usually, the longer you wait to do an extension, the more expensive it is. But this would have been so 1 of the rare instances if you had waited, you'd have been better off. The problem is that they gotta pull the cord this year because he's got 37, 000, 000 as a base salary next year that's guaranteed for injury that's fully guaranteed, like, the 3rd or 5th day of the league year.

Speaker 9:

He's got 39, 000, 000, fully guaranteed this year and no trade clause, he's not gonna do them any favors. So he's probably gonna be playing for league minimum someplace because there's an offset to guarantee, which means anything he makes from his new team, the Broncos get to recoup to offset their guarantee. So there's no point in him it's not gonna get he doesn't double dip where he gets to 39, 000, 000 in every dollar from the new deal. So he'll probably sign for league minimum. The Dolphins get to not the Dolphins.

Speaker 9:

The Broncos get to offset the 1, 121, 000, which is his minimum base salary. You're still gonna make 39 total, and we'll have to play well and it'll be a starter in 2025.

Dan McDowell:

Maybe a cowboy, boys. Maybe a co so he would take a league minimum from someone just because he'd wanna stick it to the Broncos a little more. Like, hey. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

When he said

Speaker 9:

let's say let's say he made 25, 000, 000 or signed for 25, 000, 000. He's not getting the 25, 000, 000. The guarantee that the Broncos have has an offset. So he the Broncos, we get to offset the 39, 000, 000 they owe him with the 25, 000, 000 so they don't be on the hook for 14. So he has no incentive to make more money unless someone's gonna pay him above 39, 000, 000, which isn't happening.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Yeah. And I forgot that the whole injury guarantee thing, that's what caused him to get benched in the 1st place. So

Speaker 9:

yeah. Yeah. But the timing of when they came to him, well, you just beat the Chiefs for the first time in forever, and he was starting to look better. So the timing was curious. I I did think that had they continued to lose, the bye week was when he was getting benched.

Speaker 9:

But they he they didn't cooperate. He played well enough for them to win a couple of games. So I think that plan went out the window.

Dan McDowell:

And then how close are we to, Micah Parsons breaking the bank?

Speaker 9:

Actually, you don't have to do him. You didn't do CeeDee Lamb after his 3rd year. It's been a mixed bag on when you do or you don't. Zeke forced the cowboy's hand. He'd been given his position.

Speaker 9:

He was smart to do that. Tyron Smith got paid after his 3rd year when he signed his extremely long contract, 8 8 New Years. He's in the plan out all of them. Zach Martin didn't get done until he was heading into his 5th year option. So you got Micah Parsons making a shade under 3, 000, 000 next year.

Speaker 9:

His cap number's a little over 54. He's gonna have a 5th year option in 2025 for 20 I think it'll be right around 23, 000, 000. Joey Boat, not Joey. Nick Bosa, who is the highest paid, non quarterback at 34, 000, 000 per year, got it done when he was heading into the 5th year option. So you don't necessarily have to do Parsons this year.

Dan McDowell:

But but that's what we're looking at.

Blake Jones:

In in a couple years, if CD does get Justin Jefferson money, Parsons does flirt with that BOSA number, Dak is making what we think of to be around 60. I mean, is that a viable way to build a roster to just be this top heavy?

Speaker 9:

No. It's not ideal. The Colts used to do it. They were extremely top heavy during the Manning years because they had Manning who is up there. Dallas Clark is a tight end, 2 receivers that were up there, Bob Sanders, Dwight Freeney.

Speaker 9:

They were really top heavy.

Dan McDowell:

Fuck.

Speaker 9:

Dallas will restructure every contract known to man, so they'll keep kicking the can down the road, but you better get on your draft picks.

Jake Kemp:

Alright, Joel. When's the last time you talked to Shaq?

Speaker 9:

No. It's been a long time.

Speaker 8:

Okay. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I just wanted to check-in.

Dan McDowell:

What's the Shaq relationship? Didn't Joel tell

Speaker 9:

us once that It was he was great when I was working with him, but, when I started my own company with the head of the football department, then started having, the contact started to decrease.

Jake Kemp:

I believe, Joel once told us, and I believe my brother relayed this story to me, and I think we talked about this before that Shaq had to have a waiver on him at all times because he liked to tase people.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. He had he you know, the practical joker. He was in the office once, and they give me a $1, 000 to tase me. And I'm like, nah. You better add a few more zeros to that.

Speaker 9:

And I told Leonard, my boss, about that, and and I was like, I think we need to do a waiver. I was like, yeah. Just because if he's gonna do stuff like that he did get a friend of his to do it for $10, 000 who said it wasn't worth it.

Dan McDowell:

Really? Yeah. That's awesome.

Jake Kemp:

Shaq's just a

Dan McDowell:

That's always what I thought.

Jake Kemp:

Like, if

Dan McDowell:

I yeah. If you had a $1, 000, 000, 000, would you just do bits with it? Yeah. Shaq does. He also does good stuff.

Jake Kemp:

Donates, buys

Dan McDowell:

I he was doing that

Speaker 9:

from day 1. He when when he was a rookie, he would make the hospital visits in Orlando to children's hospitals that he didn't want any media there because it wasn't for media consumption.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Because he didn't want the media to see him tasing them kids.

Speaker 9:

I don't know.

Speaker 5:

Don't know what

Speaker 9:

you say. Don't put that out

Dan McDowell:

there. Alright. Well, Joel, thanks a lot, man. You're the best. We'll talk to you again soon.

Speaker 9:

Thanks for having me, guys.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. There's the the great Joel Corey. Go check out his podcast and stuff. Read his stuff. Sure.

Dan McDowell:

Do things.

Jake Kemp:

Great dude.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Gaze him. No. I was gonna say, Shaq, do you remember? I think I sent you pictures because when I was at Grapevine Ford Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

This is, like, a year ago or so,

Speaker 8:

he I think he, like,

Jake Kemp:

he, like, bought a family a car

Dan McDowell:

or something that it Somehow knew some family was on tough times. He just brought him there Yeah. And bought him a vehicle with cash. Yeah. Like, what it can you imagine the haggling there?

Dan McDowell:

Probably pretty low. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I would imagine. But yeah. No. That was a a story my brother told me that Joel told them once upon a time in their office that, like, Shaq would just do bits with cash. That's awesome.

Jake Kemp:

They're like, you need a waiver. Liability's gonna be an issue here.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. Sports Interstitial. Just for Blake to time stamp it. Trying to help you out, Blake. I know.

Dan McDowell:

Thank you. Trying to help your show. Thank you. Because we have other sports audio. Correct?

Dan McDowell:

Audio or video? Audio. Oh, some video. And you know what? It's attached with video sometimes.

Dan McDowell:

Audio.

Blake Jones:

Do you wanna do this today?

Jake Kemp:

No. Let's do it tomorrow. Oh, okay. We've been going a long time. I do wanna play you the horns down thing, though.

Dan McDowell:

Okay.

Jake Kemp:

This is, after Texas lost to UCF 7771 last night. By the way, I know nobody cares, but that's a beast of a conference for college basketball.

Blake Jones:

Oh, yeah. It's, what is They're they're gonna beat up on each the big 12.

Jake Kemp:

The big 12. Like, once they added the schools that they added

Blake Jones:

Yeah. And it'll be it'll be better next year when they Arizona schools gets gets there. But, I mean, adding Cincinnati and UCF definitely helped. And Houston. And Houston is huge.

Jake Kemp:

They have Texas at 3, Oak State at 16, Oklahoma at 15, Kansas State at 18, Kansas at 23.

Dan McDowell:

I've never heard you talk about college basketball in my life.

Jake Kemp:

I'm just saying. Well, let me, you know what? I might even have those rankings wrong. I think that's even better.

Dan McDowell:

No. But you're fired up about college basketball?

Jake Kemp:

I'm not really fired up about it. It's just like a weird random offshoot of, like, football ruling the day. You know?

Blake Jones:

And I think it was worse last year because, whenever conference play started in the big 12 last year, they pulled all of the team's strengths of strength of schedules. 11 of the top 12 were big 12 teams because the conference was that stacked.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. And I actually got that wrong. I was looking at the wrong ranking. Kansas is 3. Baylor's 9.

Jake Kemp:

Tech is 25. BYU is 20. TCU is 19. OU is 15. Iowa State's 24, and Houston is 5.

Jake Kemp:

Are you

Dan McDowell:

looking at the ladies?

Jake Kemp:

No. No. No. I think I was actually looking at, like, football.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, okay. Probably. You see the, TCU women are having open tryouts?

Jake Kemp:

Yes. We talked about that

Dan McDowell:

yesterday. No. We didn't talk about the open tryout. Just the fact

Jake Kemp:

that you're talking about they forfeit 2 games? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. So now they're just trying to get some bodies in there. Transition? Yeah. That's what the Trump says people do.

Dan McDowell:

Right?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. So UCF beats Texas last

Dan McDowell:

night beat Blake.

Jake Kemp:

And, their coach was upset about, something that took place in the handshake line.

Speaker 10:

You know, I'm a big believer in, you know, you win the right way, you lose the right way. And, you know, I always tell my guys, you know, whether you win or lose, you win the right way. You lose the right way. You carry yourself the right way. You don't go through the handshake line or probably getting to the handshake line and have about 6 or 7 guys putting the horns down.

Dan McDowell:

Come on. Wait. Hold on. I know. I thought he was gonna say that he did

Speaker 5:

the, middle finger tickle your palm, handshake. Right. Let me know

Dan McDowell:

that you're

Speaker 5:

Jake. Right?

Jake Kemp:

Let me know that you're available.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Now when the audio starts of him saying, you know, people need to win the right way, do you think he was going towards something positive?

Dan McDowell:

Do you think they won?

Jake Kemp:

No. You know, I did not know the outcome of the game before I saw this, but I could ascertain it pretty quickly. Yeah.

Speaker 10:

And have about 6 or 7 guys putting the horns down. Oh. We don't do that. You know? Because when you do those kind of things, it looks very classless, and it also looks like you were just hoping to win.

Speaker 10:

We never go into games trying to hope to win. We go into games expecting to win. So we don't act like that.

Dan McDowell:

Mhmm. Did you

Speaker 10:

win? We expect to win. We don't jump up and down like like we won a national championship. We sure don't step on anyone's

Dan McDowell:

Oh, so that's what happened too. They were over over celebrating.

Jake Kemp:

Over celebrating at at, bless the mood.

Dan McDowell:

What does Aggie, Aggie Austin think about this?

Speaker 7:

I'm gonna get

Speaker 8:

trolling me that time. That's

Speaker 7:

right. You stupid.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. What is a sooner Austin thing?

Speaker 7:

No. I mean, you know, we were tough.

Speaker 9:

Have you

Dan McDowell:

ever thrown the horns

Speaker 7:

down? Oh, my god.

Speaker 8:

I have a shirt with it. Oh, I'll wear it

Speaker 7:

on Sunday to the livestream. Yeah. Like, I mean, it's

Dan McDowell:

And would you stop if Texas didn't care?

Speaker 7:

No. We did it before, you know, the entire time I was in college. That was that was a thing. And then I feel like in the past few years, it became this huge deal. You know, they started doing the penalties during the games, like

Jake Kemp:

Tom Herman went a long way for this. It's Like, he's the 1 who really was like, uh-uh.

Dan McDowell:

It's just

Speaker 7:

the softest thing ever. I I don't understand why they get so butthurt about it. And to your point, if you're getting butthurt about it, you think that people they they play next and kick their ass, like, they're not gonna do that. Like, you're just making it worse for yourself.

Speaker 8:

So

Speaker 10:

You know, we expect to win. We don't jump up and down like like we won a national championship. We sure don't step on anyone's home court deal and act crazy and try to show them up in any way. We don't do that.

Dan McDowell:

We don't walk on the logo.

Speaker 10:

That's what I was angry about, and I was letting those guys know you don't do that. Mhmm. You know? You guys want hey. We shake, you know, shake your hand, tip my head to you, but we're not gonna let you act that way.

Speaker 10:

You're not building. You're not gonna do that. You're not gonna put your horns down and do all that nonsense.

Speaker 7:

Baker planted the flag at Ohio State. That was 1 of the best Baker OU moments. Like, it's incredible.

Dan McDowell:

Just kinda like, tackling t o on the star. There is 1 way you can stop that. Yeah. Yeah. You've got to win.

Dan McDowell:

You have to stop them from scoring or Yeah.

Blake Jones:

And for UCF to go into Austin win, that is a huge moment for their program. You don't expect them to act a little wild when they won?

Jake Kemp:

Come on. I just think it's it's The

Dan McDowell:

guy sounds very old.

Jake Kemp:

He does sound very old. He's I don't believe he's actually that old, but, I think he was just spent.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Coaches are older than their age usually. Very much so.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. You remember how Rodney Terry became the coach at Texas?

Dan McDowell:

Well, I mean,

Speaker 8:

Chris Chris

Jake Kemp:

Beard beat

Dan McDowell:

that 1. Yeah. Yeah. Is that how?

Blake Jones:

Yeah. He was just 1 of the assistant coaches and kinda earned the job. But, I mean, he was only there because Chris Beard, what, got an argument with his wife because she broke his glasses.

Jake Kemp:

I mean, come on. They're expensive.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Yeah. She's gotta be careful with that.

Jake Kemp:

She's gotta probably get another eye appointment.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. It's a whole thing.

Dan McDowell:

What is, what's his bit? Did he get hired somewhere? He got hired right away, did he? Ole Miss.

Jake Kemp:

Not right away, but pretty short. It was pretty quick. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Incubation period as I recall.

Jake Kemp:

They have, Chris Beard and Lane Kiffin. Okay. The disgusting brothers.

Speaker 7:

They're just doing this. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Anything come out of the McCarthy? Did we play McCarthy on you? No. We didn't.

Blake Jones:

I was just gonna play 1 thing from it, because

Dan McDowell:

The big man. Big old self. He's back. All big and coaching. Back.

Blake Jones:

I do think, you know, I think they're trying to spin the story now of where McCarthy's job was safe all along. I don't believe that because we played audio from Jerry after back to back games of we are still taking this 1 game at a time. That's what I believe. It's just Jerry was just gonna wait and see. And we even said

Dan McDowell:

it decided after this 1 game, I've seen enough. This is great.

Jake Kemp:

Good to go.

Blake Jones:

Well, I think it's because McCarthy kinda saved his ass here. So, they ask him, you know, tides turned. How did you keep your job? Whatever. He talks about meeting with Jerry, and what that meeting entailed.

Mike McCarthy:

It was a long meeting. But I think we went probably a little bit past 3 hours. We talked about a number of topics. I mean, the first topic was obviously the disappointment of the ending of the season. You know, went through all the layers of that, and then we talked about, you know, pretty much everything in a football program.

Dan McDowell:

Another answer.

Mike McCarthy:

I wouldn't view the the the the conversation that way. I think clearly, you know, it started off with the, you know, peeling back the layers of of what went wrong and in a disappointment. And and then, you know, then, frankly, it got to where Jerry and I are 1 on 1. And frankly, you know, the best meetings I have is with Jerry's 1 on 1. I can't, they're super productive.

Jake Kemp:

Get out of here.

Dan McDowell:

Is that what he's referring to?

Jake Kemp:

You need

Blake Jones:

you need to corner him.

Jake Kemp:

Finally, Steven left.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah.

Blake Jones:

And that's kind of the theme here is I got I I think I got Jerry 1 on 1, and then, I just begged for my job. I mean, got everyone else out of here, but, yeah, he just had a 3 hour long meeting

Dan McDowell:

with Jerry. Like, guys, if Dez would have sat with Jerry 1 on 1

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

He would have still been a cowboy. He would have been released.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Yes. Because Jerry Jerry's Jerry loves his people. Jerry treats his people well, and Jerry has trouble saying goodbye.

Blake Jones:

Yep. And I think that's what happened is he got in the room and he saw McCarthy's big old self who'd won a Super Bowl in his building.

Jake Kemp:

Rode on his back around the office.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. Slapping him

Jake Kemp:

like a horse.

Blake Jones:

And he just he felt for him, and his emotions came back to him, and he forgot all about Sunday as the Cowboys got trounced. And I think he just made an emotional decision to bring him back.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I was not as as shocked as everyone else was. I mean, I thought it was weird that they put out a statement, but it seemed like, I mean, even in Joel Corey's article, it's like the shocking decision, you know, to bring back Mike McCarthy. I'm like, I don't know. I feel like this was kind of the chalk.

Jake Kemp:

Right?

Dan McDowell:

I don't know though. I mean I mean, what are they gonna do? It'd be a very difficult thing to to get rid of a 12 and 5 guy. I told you my idea is demote him to offensive coordinator.

Jake Kemp:

That's a horrible idea.

Blake Jones:

Do that.

Jake Kemp:

Not viable.

Dan McDowell:

I don't understand why you can't do that. That's be the first. You know? Everybody said they couldn't hire Jimmy Johnson too, and he did it.

Jake Kemp:

Okay. Well, let's say that, hypothetically, we had a downturn in ratings during, the bad radio era. Mhmm. And they came to you and they were like, you're the producer now. Jake's the host.

Jake Kemp:

Would you have been like, that sounds great.

Dan McDowell:

I wouldn't have wanted to. You would have been, like,

Jake Kemp:

I wanna go somewhere else.

Dan McDowell:

It's my paycheck, and I'm under contract. What would I have done? I could have quit, and then I would forego the money. Somebody else will hire you. Don't you think?

Dan McDowell:

Well, I would had to sit out for 6 months, but certainly, Mike McCarthy would, you know, that's why the world of the NFL is a little more fair sometimes. Sure.

Jake Kemp:

That's fair. But I just think you you sometimes discount how important ego is in these professions.

Dan McDowell:

I mean, you see it in free agency for sure. Guys will take even a little less elsewhere sometimes just because it's the

Jake Kemp:

The f u.

Dan McDowell:

Indicate indig nation. There you go. Alright. Alright. You got it.

Speaker 9:

Alright. You

Speaker 8:

got it.

Dan McDowell:

Guys. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

You got the

Dan McDowell:

Here's me. Yeah. For you know, of having to take such a massive pay cut or something like that. Like even Zeke. But they were offering a, pay cut.

Dan McDowell:

I believe. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. We've we've but we've had situations like that before.

Jake Kemp:

Sure. No. But, they don't have a lot of other options.

Dan McDowell:

I I just feel like the the real thing here is going to be you were at a moment of time in time where there were so many really good head coaching candidates who have done it before, number 1, and then really some others. He'd probably never go with the young hot guy now at this stage of the cowboys and his life. Right? Right. But, you know, that's that's going to be the second guess.

Dan McDowell:

And I suppose next year, I saw somebody else point this out. I don't know who it was. I'm I'm sorry. But, you know, Twitter, lot lots of stuff going on. The thought that Jerry hasn't actually fired a coach since Dave Campo.

Dan McDowell:

That Parcells left on his own. I guess they fired Wade Phillips. Yeah. In the middle of the year. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

So that's that's, that is a bad point that I read. But Garrett let his contract just run out. They never actually fired Garrett.

Jake Kemp:

No. They treated him like, the the guy with the stapler in the office or in a office space.

Dan McDowell:

And same thing might happen Milton. If indeed this happens again next year, it will be just that I don't give him another contract

Speaker 5:

because his

Dan McDowell:

contract's up next year. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

The 1 thing I saw, that I I agreed with on Twitter was our buddy, Tim, who said they could go 17 or no next year, and I will have no confidence heading into the playoffs. Yeah. Like, we'll do our streams. We'll have fun.

Blake Jones:

We'll say it's different.

Jake Kemp:

We'll drink some beers. I'll write some columns.

Dan McDowell:

That's the thing. Because they were doing all the though. This year is different thing already this year. It's We've done that. We did the what's what what's different about this team heading well, I mean Got rid of killing more.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I mean, we're all on the same page, and it's just brotherhood.

Jake Kemp:

Backyard, Texas Coast. Yeah. It's dark.

Blake Jones:

No. Get rid of Zeke. Yeah. They had a lot to point to this year.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. It's gonna be weird. That's kind of why I thought I kind of thought they would do something.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I think we all did.

Dan McDowell:

Because they're probably going to be selling I think Dan Quinn's still gonna get a job. I could be wrong, but there are lots of he's interviewing everywhere. Yeah. Obviously, Seattle is the Yeah. The the chalk or whatever.

Dan McDowell:

That's probably

Speaker 9:

That's the 1

Jake Kemp:

that makes the most sense. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Just because of his his history there and all that kind of stuff. Carol's still there, I believe? Sort of. Did he get demoted to,

Jake Kemp:

consultants? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Consultants? Or is that was that a mutual thing or they were gonna fire him and said, hey, this could help us save face?

Jake Kemp:

I don't know the specifics on that 1.

Speaker 7:

Think he got demoted to offensive coordinator.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Have you seen, I saw somebody alleged that Belichick's going to Atlanta. And I don't understand that at all. They interviewed him? I know they interviewed him but Thought it was Oakland.

Dan McDowell:

I just don't III would have to think, like, this is a perfect situation for Belichick that's already kind of ready made. He can go ahead and win enough games in the next 2 years to, you know, take down Shula's record.

Jake Kemp:

Gotta deal with the yodeling kid, though.

Dan McDowell:

Gotta deal with the yodeling kid. I'd like to know if there was any back channel communications. We'll never know.

Jake Kemp:

No. We won't. We will never know if they met on the, the tarmac.

Blake Jones:

Got them out on the bravo? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

I kinda think there was. You don't think Jerry's covering every base? Well, maybe not. Let's do the news. Alright.

Dan McDowell:

Jeez.

Jake Kemp:

Move this thing along.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. I'm

Jake Kemp:

gonna pick up the kid at 3:30. With

Dan McDowell:

the gun zone news.

Jake Kemp:

Carroll High School evacuated yesterday after a bomb threat. What do you know about this,

Dan McDowell:

Dan? I know that my wife didn't get home till 7 o'clock. Woah. So little bonus. Oh.

Dan McDowell:

Did you call it in? On 1 hand, a bonus. On the other hand, a I got to hear all about it. Okay. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Because it was such a big thing. Yeah. She works for that school. And just said, you know, everybody had to, like, immediately get outside, and it's a huge just cluster f because it wasn't a drill. And so, you know, people didn't have their coats and bags and stuff, and like it was just a huge ordeal getting back in, and people were they had to evacuate and just leave.

Dan McDowell:

And so people were coming back as late as 7 PM, like, getting their stuff that was still there, or their cars, or whatever. So she just said it was mayhem. But I don't know what happened exactly.

Jake Kemp:

There are scant amount of details here. It just says an anonymous tip was received through the stop

Dan McDowell:

it alert. I don't know what that is.

Jake Kemp:

I was hoping you would. Do you think you should, like, have to carry a charge for the rest of your life if you call in a bomb threat at your school when you're, like, 15?

Dan McDowell:

Were we on the air or off talking about dumb things kids do? Just like earlier today.

Blake Jones:

That was today. Yeah. On the air. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Because I mean you're not you are not the person you were at Pumpkins in mailboxes. Yeah. Like you're nothing close to it, I would guess. Certainly not. Like, and I think I'm a moron now.

Dan McDowell:

I was a complete imbecile Yeah. When I was 15. So wouldn't that be tough to carry that?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean, for me, pre Columbine, it was always like the, the fire alarm. Like, you would hear that if you pulled the fire alarm, like, dude, that's on your record.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I was scared touching it. Oh, yeah. Just being even being around it.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. I was always skeptical that it even worked.

Jake Kemp:

Why?

Dan McDowell:

I don't know.

Speaker 8:

Do you

Dan McDowell:

ever hear about, like, people that have they put fake fire alarm up to get around the regulators or something? Code? No. I've not heard of that. No.

Blake Jones:

Do you think fire alarms are old technology? Like, why do we still need those? Something on the wall that you pull when there's a fire when you could just make a phone call now.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. And you're like, I'm on fire.

Blake Jones:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I don't have time to get over here to this thing.

Blake Jones:

I'm burning. It just seems really outdated.

Jake Kemp:

When's the last time 1 was put to good use?

Dan McDowell:

But you're do you're doing it for everybody in the school, not for the fire department to be alerted.

Jake Kemp:

Alright. Well, you defeated that point pretty quickly. Yeah.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. I just remembered just it's just a little box on the wall. It's got little plastic thing that makes sure no one's, like, hasn't broken the seal or whatever. But, yeah, you're right. I guess it does trigger an alarm for Do

Jake Kemp:

you have, like, a red, yeah, a readily available, fire extinguisher in your home?

Dan McDowell:

When we first moved in, I remember we did make sure that we did, like, at least 1 under the sink. Mhmm. And I gotta tell you, I have 0 idea if that's still there.

Jake Kemp:

Do they go bad? I think they do. I think they probably do.

Dan McDowell:

We got a hose outside.

Jake Kemp:

That's not gonna help.

Dan McDowell:

Do you have?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I think it's a few years old.

Dan McDowell:

And I think it was grade school based because, like, the kid had a pride like, they had to go home and make sure they could identify and then Yeah. Yeah. So it kind of makes you grade school.

Blake Jones:

Here we go.

Dan McDowell:

Here we go.

Jake Kemp:

That seems great.

Dan McDowell:

They're kind of making little spies because they also came in and told us, like, the certain smells of drugs. Mhmm.

Jake Kemp:

How'd that work out for you?

Dan McDowell:

It I just do remember once when they came back from, like, they took a trip, the, the wife and 2 kids, and they came back. And, they did identify. They said they thought a skunk or something was dead in the garage. And, you know, my place, this is our old house, I think, and it was right off the garage was my Stash. My room.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

And I'm like and I think they might have put that together at 1 point where they said, marijuana will smell like a skunk. I was like, it does? I don't know, man.

Jake Kemp:

That's crazy. I've never smelled it. Yeah. I wouldn't know.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. But then, yeah. Then they come home and they're like, let's identify the escape routes if there's a fire and this and that. I'm like, what? I don't know.

Dan McDowell:

I don't Yeah. Like, do you have a ladder for the, the, second floor?

Jake Kemp:

What are you from? Like public

Dan McDowell:

works? Yeah. So, we had to have like a put a rope ladder that was in the, you know, Ava's closet and all this kind of stuff when it's just like, look, the odds are it's just not gonna burn down. Right? We're gonna be fine.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. So we did this story the other day on the Lost episode, but we're gonna do it again. Just because it's near and dear to our heart, which is that, all the funny highway signs are going away.

Dan McDowell:

This is Blake's favorite bit.

Jake Kemp:

I know. We will no longer have horns up, phones down, it can wait. Or only Rudolph should drive lit.

Dan McDowell:

Now is this a national thing? It is. Okay. I thought it was Texas only.

Jake Kemp:

No. The Federal Highway Administration issued a new, manual that said that they need to be, quote, simple, direct, brief, legible, and clear as well as relevant, relevant to the road user on the roadway on which the message is displayed.

Blake Jones:

What happened is Texas got the rest of the country in trouble.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly what happened.

Dan McDowell:

Do you think we're the highest percentage of bits?

Jake Kemp:

Yes. Hocus Pocus, Drive with Focus around holidays, around

Blake Jones:

it is. This 1. The sun has Riz, the sun is set, and y'all ain't out of Texas yet.

Jake Kemp:

Yep. We ruined it for everyone.

Blake Jones:

Yeah. The sun has Riz.

Dan McDowell:

It's got a strong Riz game.

Jake Kemp:

Shut up.

Blake Jones:

What? Oh this is the 1 that started Dan. Santa's coming. Have you been a good driver? Only reindeer can fly.

Blake Jones:

Watch your speed. Cobble cobble go easy on the throttle.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. That was the come joke. The, the the lost episode cum joke was Santa's coming.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Mhmm.

Dan McDowell:

Get a towel or something. But it was

Blake Jones:

But it's not It didn't fit. Car related.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. It didn't fit our Yeah. Nope. It was it was so

Jake Kemp:

which makes it barely a joke. Oh, yeah.

Dan McDowell:

I guess just the shock of the word come. Of of the the visual of Santa coming? Jeez.

Jake Kemp:

Gobble, gobble, go easy on the throttle.

Dan McDowell:

When would they put that up? Valentine's. Okay.

Jake Kemp:

So, yeah. It's over. Ruined it for everyone.

Dan McDowell:

It's Valentine's Day. Santa's coming.

Blake Jones:

New year. New you. Use your blinker.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. See? Now this is a that's a subjective rule too. I know. Who says?

Dan McDowell:

Like, who says these aren't direct and to the point? Is it an issue of And what will happen?

Jake Kemp:

That they think you're You're breaking

Dan McDowell:

a federal law? Is it

Jake Kemp:

an issue of they think if you look at it, you're gonna be just laughing so hard, you'll demolish your car? Yeah. Because you'll be so distracted by the comedy.

Dan McDowell:

Who's to say? Really? What's a, worse federal offense?

Jake Kemp:

Mailbox or

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Mailbox or writing comedy on Comedy on Well, it'd be great, like, to have, we're gonna our our guest text administrator is Shane Gillis this week and and everything is Shane Gillis related. Like all stuff he's he's posted on there.

Jake Kemp:

That would be great. Call me. Alright. I'm just gonna start this last story with a headline. K?

Jake Kemp:

And I've read a couple of different accounts of this, and I'm still a little bit confused. Naked man beat Fort Worth delivery driver to death with firewood, court docs say. A Fort Worth delivery driver was killed by a naked man who beat him to death with the firewood he was delivering. 27 year old suspect now in jail and charged with murder. Don't think you could kill me with firewood.

Speaker 8:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

I think I could I could thwart that.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. You'd have to be already tied up

Speaker 8:

and Something.

Dan McDowell:

To a chair or something

Speaker 7:

and

Speaker 8:

I just

Dan McDowell:

keep bludgeoning you.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. The victim was dropping

Blake Jones:

You're sitting there. You're doing the show. You're doing the news, and someone hits you with a stump. Wouldn't you happen? Caught off guard.

Jake Kemp:

No way.

Blake Jones:

That guy's just doing his job. I would hear it coming. You just drop the firewood off and then you're thinking oh, a naked guy. I gotta get out of here. You turn around, he hits you over the head.

Jake Kemp:

But the weird thing is is that the guy who was killed was the guy delivering the fire.

Speaker 5:

That's what I'm saying.

Blake Jones:

He probably dropped to the door and tried to get out of there And the guy's just doing his job.

Jake Kemp:

The naked thing is

Blake Jones:

He's got he's got pods in. He can't hear.

Jake Kemp:

The naked thing is a is a pro for assailant or a defender, really. I've always said that. For sure. That's why it would be tough to home invade Dan and me about half the time.

Dan McDowell:

Because I'd hop out of bed and I'm naked? Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

You don't wanna be part of that.

Dan McDowell:

And the guy's laughing. A little tiny wiener.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Uh-huh.

Jake Kemp:

Miming a magnifying glass.

Dan McDowell:

Looking at my wife, like, hey. You want a real man here?

Speaker 8:

Definitely some wood jokes there.

Jake Kemp:

Very nice. Yeah. I do think that if you get up in the middle of the night and you need to, like, case your perimeter, doing it nude is the way to do it. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Case your perimeter, like, walk around the house?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah, like, if you need, like, if you hear something, and you're like, alright, I need

Dan McDowell:

to go around the whole You've done that? I've definitely done it. Okay, because recently I had to get up and I can't remember, but I had to I fired on the shorts. Don't I don't I don't just walk downstairs naked.

Jake Kemp:

I do. Well, I mean, I don't have

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. This palace. Right. No. He you have simply 1 story.

Jake Kemp:

Now, here's the problem. When you are in the age where the kid might occasionally get in bed.

Speaker 8:

Mhmm. Oh.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Now you're like, I need to get up and put underwear on.

Dan McDowell:

Because then you have a CFNM situation.

Jake Kemp:

You're talking about my daughter.

Dan McDowell:

I'm just saying she would be a closed female, a closed female

Jake Kemp:

I knew that.

Dan McDowell:

And you would be a naked man. Now there doesn't have to be any more Activity. Yeah. I mean, I'm just stating a fact. Uh-huh.

Dan McDowell:

And those are facts. And it could have been, when I had a kid as well. If you recall. I mean, I still have kids.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. That's, that's an area that I think I used to judge you pretty harshly on.

Speaker 8:

But

Dan McDowell:

What? And, like, Bob would too. Sleeping nude or showering nude?

Jake Kemp:

Showering I I still I probably mean You mean

Dan McDowell:

that shower nude, of course.

Speaker 8:

Why? What?

Jake Kemp:

No. No. Like, I'm I'm probably, like it's been 8 or 9 months, but, like, sometimes it's just more efficient for us to both be in the shower at the same time.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. Like, my wife does it. Right. No. You just there's no yeah.

Dan McDowell:

She's got her own thing going on. You just run-in there. Yeah. Yeah. It's fine.

Jake Kemp:

It doesn't feel weird to me, but when you used to say it, I was like, man,

Dan McDowell:

that's odd. Like, I'd shower, my 3 year old kid is steps in.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah, my daughter's 5, so maybe I'm over the limit.

Dan McDowell:

No, I don't know. It's

Jake Kemp:

It doesn't seem weird to

Dan McDowell:

me at all. Right, that's Yes, and I suppose if you don't have kids, then you might Oh, is that a sex? You can't there's no sexual thoughts or

Jake Kemp:

No. And the only reason that I do with the only reason that I I put shorts on with the dog is

Dan McDowell:

And that's what I was gonna go to

Jake Kemp:

The dog is way more interested in, like, running into me. The kid is, like, over there doing her own thing.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. So, you do have a big dog. Is it size based? Because I told you I will pull my dog into the shower to clean him up, if he's, you know, messy. And you're like, oh, man.

Dan McDowell:

What is that? It's gay.

Speaker 7:

Is that what I said?

Dan McDowell:

Aren't you attracted to the I mean, look at that little starfish.

Jake Kemp:

Alright. That's

Speaker 8:

the news. Oh, no.

Dan McDowell:

The dumb zone move.

Jake Kemp:

Hey, babe. Mike

Dan McDowell:

and some How long have you been going?

Speaker 8:

It's been

Jake Kemp:

a long time.

Blake Jones:

About 215. Okay.

Dan McDowell:

Let's just do a quickie 1 of these then. The dumb zone presents Unless Jeff and Aggie Austin don't want

Jake Kemp:

it. He's not trolling. It.

Speaker 8:

Not trolling.

Dan McDowell:

Do you go to college, chef?

Speaker 8:

HCU Wildcat. Oh. Yeah. Curfew? Yeah.

Speaker 8:

Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

They have strict rules, Dan. Yeah. Who? Abilene Christian.

Speaker 8:

Abilene Christian.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, okay. Yeah. You don't seem like an Abilene Christian guy.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. I probably don't give the HC5. Vibe. Yeah. No.

Speaker 8:

I'm from Abilene. I born and raised there and yeah. Yep.

Dan McDowell:

So we're recording this live to videotape on Thursday, January 18th. And right now, it's 2:45, and Jake's got a kid to pick up, so we'll get He's got showers to take.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Okay. It's not like a regular thing. Just occasionally, that's It's

Dan McDowell:

a 4:15. Shower.

Speaker 8:

On

Dan McDowell:

this day in 1976, it was, cowboys in the Super Bowl. Remember when the cowboys were in the Super Bowl? What year? This was 1976.

Jake Kemp:

Ah, the Broncos?

Dan McDowell:

The Steelers beat the cowboys, becoming the, that was their 2nd Super Bowl win ever. They would win 2 more in the seventies.

Jake Kemp:

Team of the seventies.

Dan McDowell:

On this day in 2, 006, I don't really remember this. Knicks forward, Antonio Davis, went into the stands during a game Yep. Because he believed his wife was involved in an altercation with a fan. You remember that?

Jake Kemp:

Vaguely. Yeah. I remember that he had a quite the rap about him being, hot headed.

Dan McDowell:

I think it's great that you have your family members come to watch you play, and then you have to have that on your mind as well, worrying about what's going on with that.

Jake Kemp:

Leave Riley Curry alone.

Dan McDowell:

On this day in 2012, Mike, the Texas Rangers signed you Darvish to a $60, 000, 000, 6 year contract.

Jake Kemp:

That was pretty cool because when he showed up here, he had a shirt with a big pot leaf on it. For real? Yeah. But, like, I don't think there's a weird deal that happens, and this is gonna sound incredibly racist. But, like, when you go to sometimes when you go to other countries, they will, like, use symbols that we use in America without really, like it's kinda like how they have, like, Hitler Cafe in, like, India, you know?

Jake Kemp:

You know, like, well, we're, like, not using the swastika anymore. And, yeah, he had he just had a shirt with a pot leaf on it.

Dan McDowell:

But it wasn't because he was

Jake Kemp:

Thought it was cool. Pro herb. No. I don't think he was pro herb.

Dan McDowell:

Mary Jane. Blake. So I'm talking about doobage.

Speaker 8:

Mhmm. Doobage?

Speaker 7:

Lettuce. Legalize it.

Dan McDowell:

On this day in 2013, former New Orleans mayor Ray Nagin Oh. Indicted on charges that he had used his office for personal gain accepting payoffs, free trips, and gratuities from contractors while the city was struggling to recover from the devastation of hurricane Katrina. I say, what good is being mayor if you can't take a No doubt. Crack here and there? No doubt.

Dan McDowell:

That's what Ray Nagin said. He was convicted and, sent to prison.

Jake Kemp:

Should've been in Texas. You can get away with that here. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Birthdays today, Gary Trent junior, 25.

Blake Jones:

He used to share with his dad?

Dan McDowell:

I think his grandpa. Right? His dad shared it with his grandpa. Leonard Fournette, 29. Leo.

Dan McDowell:

Tee Higgins, 25. Do you know who Dave Bautista is?

Jake Kemp:

Of course. The Bluejay? No. That's Jose Bautista. Dave Bautista

Speaker 7:

Kirk's the wrestler and actor.

Jake Kemp:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Dan McDowell:

He was in Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 9:

Okay.

Dan McDowell:

Do you know who Ted DiBiase is?

Jake Kemp:

Everybody's got a price. Yeah. He's the $1, 000, 000 man.

Speaker 8:

That's right.

Dan McDowell:

Is everybody into wrestling except me? Because I would expect you to be on my side of, yes, I'd never watch that stupid stuff. Dude. Somehow you're like

Jake Kemp:

I think the difference between me and you was my parents got divorced, but my dad would still get me, like, 5 days out of the month. Whereas yours really, like, didn't.

Dan McDowell:

It was a weekend bit.

Jake Kemp:

But, like

Dan McDowell:

We were a week every other weekend.

Jake Kemp:

So were we, but, I

Dan McDowell:

mean, that's what we did. You'd watch wrestling?

Jake Kemp:

The whole day.

Dan McDowell:

Okay. Well, I guess we had different dads.

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 7:

I feel like I grew up on the attitude era. Right?

Jake Kemp:

Of course, the attitude era.

Speaker 7:

Like, we didn't have cable, and so we only got SmackDown on Thursdays. Of course. Me and my brother every Thursday in my parents' room, like, pile driving each other. Oh, yeah. Mom yelling at us.

Speaker 7:

Like

Jake Kemp:

I've got video of me pile driving my brother, for sure.

Dan McDowell:

No cable.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. It was,

Jake Kemp:

even with the millionaire money.

Speaker 7:

I think that might have actually changed after that. I don't know.

Jake Kemp:

Well, we had, like, like, the super like, the 1 you could just coax plug in first. Right? So, like, I had, like, USA and Comedy Central.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. We had the basic, not like the

Jake Kemp:

There was no guide or anything like that. But, like, we had USA, and that's what it was on for a long time. And then you could just go to Blockbuster and rent VHS tapes. And it was great.

Dan McDowell:

Kevin Costner is 69.

Jake Kemp:

Also, I would just jerk off to, like, the the female wrestlers a lot.

Dan McDowell:

Is that a big player?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Is that why kids Yeah. Teenage boys are into that?

Jake Kemp:

Yeah. Especially during as he referenced the attitude era. They really sexed it up.

Speaker 7:

Oh my god. I mean, I think it was Shane Gilles' podcast the other day. They were talking about there was like a storyline with Kane raping Lita or something.

Jake Kemp:

There was. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

I don't remember that.

Jake Kemp:

They actually had a wrestler who was just a pimp.

Dan McDowell:

They had a rape storyline?

Speaker 7:

Yes. Dude, it was they had wild

Blake Jones:

Are you interested now? No.

Speaker 8:

I'm

Dan McDowell:

I'm just, shocked. Kevin Costner, 69. Spare. His band played at my brother's bar, including

Jake Kemp:

I actually recall us, promoting that fact when we did our show there. Because time.

Dan McDowell:

It was because of, the draft. Draft day. Yeah. That's the movie? Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

Let's review that before You don't want to.

Jake Kemp:

I mean, I'm down, but it's terrible.

Dan McDowell:

Comedian Dave Attell 59. Dude,

Jake Kemp:

speaking of having, like, 3 cable channels, Insomniac was such a great show. That was.

Speaker 7:

When I went to visit my brother in New York recently, we went to the Comedy Cellar.

Jake Kemp:

He play he was And he

Speaker 7:

he was, like, I don't know if you know, but they don't, like, tell you who's showing up. And it was the last show of the night, like, real late, and he showed up

Jake Kemp:

That's awesome.

Speaker 7:

Super late. I talked to him afterwards. That show is fantastic.

Dan McDowell:

Do you remember that, Dan? I remember there was a show called that.

Jake Kemp:

It was like a man on the street thing where he would just go to, like, bars at 2 AM outside and just riff. Yeah. With people who were just hammered and Comedy Central would run it at, like, 11 o'clock at night and it was great.

Dan McDowell:

I never took it in.

Jake Kemp:

It was good. That's what she said. Solid.

Speaker 8:

Slow me up, though. Sure. Thank you.

Dan McDowell:

Been waiting. When's he gonna say something? Rapper djquik54?

Jake Kemp:

More of a producer, but yes, a legend.

Dan McDowell:

And singer Jonathan Davis is 53. Korn. Oh, that's right. I knew that sound familiar. You know who opened for them?

Jake Kemp:

Okay. Did we just do this yesterday?

Dan McDowell:

Hold it. Yes.

Speaker 8:

What do you

Blake Jones:

we could say that every day. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

What's the other 1? Bush and Tool?

Speaker 9:

Yeah. Bush and Tool.

Dan McDowell:

Push you up and shoot for Tool. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Born on this Day, Not Alive, Curt Flood.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, speaking of Marvin Miller. Another reference. I'm surprised he didn't say yes. I've read that book. That Joe Corey wouldn't have just fired that.

Jake Kemp:

It fell a little flat. I might not have, set him up properly

Blake Jones:

for who he was.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. But I would think if you are An agent. If that's your

Speaker 8:

I mean,

Jake Kemp:

he kinda walked me into it with, like, I just wanna talk to the team. Yeah. No. I thought

Dan McDowell:

it was a fantastic question.

Jake Kemp:

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Dan McDowell:

Based on. And then, died on this day. I'm going to say the US president who most liked to do it.

Speaker 8:

Oh. Kennedy? No. Because he died.

Dan McDowell:

He died on this day in 18/62. John Tyler was our 10th president, Tippecanoe. And the reason I say that he might be that only because he had 15 children. Although perhaps they didn't have a They have plan b. The rubbers back in.

Dan McDowell:

Yep. I wanted to use another term you probably haven't used in a while. Yep. If ever.

Blake Jones:

But did he not understand how it worked? And there's a time that you could, like

Dan McDowell:

Pull it out.

Blake Jones:

You know, make that happen.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. And also probably for an answer. Say again? He probably didn't take no for answer either. Yeah.

Dan McDowell:

He might have been a little demanding. A lot

Speaker 8:

of yeah.

Speaker 7:

Yeah. He had those fast fingers.

Speaker 8:

Yeah. Yeah.

Jake Kemp:

Tie it all up.

Speaker 9:

If you

Dan McDowell:

think they let you grab it by their, in this day and age, imagine back then.

Jake Kemp:

You had no choice.

Dan McDowell:

Yeah. But you're gonna do vote him out of office? Yeah. Run and tell the local sheriff. And probably,

Jake Kemp:

I mean He's workshoping.

Dan McDowell:

What was it? Hat no. No. No. This is no joke.

Dan McDowell:

Half was it half the kids were dying, like, in childbirth and all that, like, it was a very high Yeah. Childbirth more mortality rate even up to, I mean, my grandma had 2 kids that died before the age of 2, something like that.

Jake Kemp:

I believe mine had 1.

Dan McDowell:

It's the way it was. And,

Jake Kemp:

what a

Dan McDowell:

note. Yeah. Wait a little pick me up and everything. And Cheats it. Was today in history.

Dan McDowell:

Alright, Jeff, Austin, closing remarks.

Speaker 7:

Absolute pleasure. Thanks for having us, especially on the historic 100th episode.

Dan McDowell:

Oh, that's right. Mhmm. How you feel about that, Jake?

Jake Kemp:

Well, it's actually 101, but

Speaker 8:

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 7:

This 1 will be the 1 that counts. Anything?

Dan McDowell:

You're kinda petering out here.

Speaker 8:

I did. No. No. I was it's the Dan's Den. Dragon's Den would be, like, if my, you know, like, brain, I think, could be, you know

Jake Kemp:

A place?

Speaker 8:

A place. Yeah. That thing, Jake. Yeah. No.

Speaker 8:

It was I we appreciate it. Or we. Why am I saying we? I.

Jake Kemp:

There's 2 of you. Yeah.

Speaker 8:

I it's like I'm speaking for Austin. But Yeah. Please please don't.

Dan McDowell:

Alright. Well, thanks. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys.

Dan McDowell:

Good times.

Jake Kemp:

Adios, mofo.

Speaker 5:

Harry