On Black.

In this episode, the On Black hosts discuss everything spooky including Halloween and their dreams and nightmares.

Show Notes

In this episode, the On Black hosts discuss everything spooky including Halloween and their dreams and nightmares. For more, follow On Black. on Instagram.

Creators & Guests

Alexis Grant
Hamsata Mazou
Jeanine Ikekhua

What is On Black.?

A WKNC commentary podcast about living and evolving while Black, hosted by Alexis Grant, Jeanine Ikekhua and Hamsata Mazou.

Alexis Grant 0:00
Hi, I'm Alexis.

Hamsata Mazou 0:01
And I'm Hamsata.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:01
And I'm Jeanine. And you're listening to WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1 radio.

Alexis Grant 0:15
Okay, welcome back everybody.

Hamsata Mazou 0:17

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:18
Hi guys.

Alexis Grant 0:19
Today we're all very mellow. Well, two of us are very mellow. Hamsata has energy. We're, you know, something light. Something light today, we're just gonna talk about spooky, scary, skeletons stuff. You know, Halloween is around the corner, October. Be scared. Of us? I mean, I'll let you decide.

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:41
Ooh, not be scared of us.

Alexis Grant 0:44
Do y'all like scary movies?

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:47

Hamsata Mazou 0:47
Not particularly.

Alexis Grant 0:48
Oh wow. Honestly, this is the biggest room I've been in with people who don't like scary movies, because I'm not. I like thrillers, but I don't like horrors. I can't handle horrors.

Hamsata Mazou 0:56
What's the difference?

Jeanine Ikekhua 0:57
Yeah I was about to say.

Alexis Grant 0:58
Thrillers, thrillers are more jumpscares horrors is more of that like,

Hamsata Mazou 1:03

Alexis Grant 1:03
No, that that can be a psychological thriller like that's, yeah, horror is more of like gruesome and like blood, gore. Like, it's more gore.

Hamsata Mazou 1:12
I don't like those.

Alexis Grant 1:13
Yeah, so like, I can do thrillers, thrillers are like, you know Hush?

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:18
What's Hush?

Alexis Grant 1:19
Hush is the movie where it's like the woman and she's deaf. And then the guy, like a guy comes to like kill her in her house in the woods. So it's all jumpscares and stuff.

Hamsata Mazou 1:29
So let's start, the first horror movie I can come to mind is probably a bad example. But it, what category would that go in?

Alexis Grant 1:36
That might be Thriller-Horror, because you know a lot of movies are Thriller-Horror,

Hamsata Mazou 1:37
Oh, okay. Then I guess I like thriller, because they're not that scary.

Alexis Grant 1:42
Yeah, like some are horror though. And it's like, it's not a lot of jumpscares and stuff, it's just that gruesome, scary. Like, you know what I mean?

Jeanine Ikekhua 1:49
No, but yeah.

Hamsata Mazou 1:50
I'm assuming is it like a lot more like more?

Alexis Grant 1:54
Like, demonic possession, Ouija board type of that's more horrible, bloody stuff dripping down the

Hamsata Mazou 2:02
Yeah, I was thinking like bloody, like very graphic. That's what I was looking for.

Alexis Grant 2:05
Yeah, it's graphic. It's like gore, like dark. Versus, versus just jumpscares.

Hamsata Mazou 2:12
I feel like those would mess me up.

Alexis Grant 2:15
Yeah, I like thrillers.

Hamsata Mazou 2:17
So I can sleep happy at night.

Alexis Grant 2:18
Exactly. Like thrillers still be getting to me. I can handle the horror, especially because I don't do well with demonic possession stuff. I can't let that be the last thing I watch before I go to sleep, or I will dream about it.

Hamsata Mazou 2:29
Oh, no, thank you.

Alexis Grant 2:33
Does that not happen to you?

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:34
I just, I won't go to sleep. Like I will be up like,

Alexis Grant 2:37
Freaking out?

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:38
Like, uh I'm gonna die,

Alexis Grant 2:38

Hamsata Mazou 2:39
I'll probably go to sleep. I'm gonna be honest with y'all. If sleep come, sleep gone come. Regardless of my state. But also I feel like I just forget things. So I'll watch, I'll be like, oh scary.

Alexis Grant 2:48
No, yeah, I'm not gonna forget it. I watch

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:50
Even three days in, I'm still scared.

Alexis Grant 2:52
No, really. I watched, called, not levels, not elevator, The Platform. Have you seen The Platform?

Jeanine Ikekhua 2:58

Alexis Grant 2:59
That's one of the most

Hamsata Mazou 3:00
I don't watch scary movies a lot.

Alexis Grant 3:01
It's not scary. It's not not. But this one. It's basically this guy like goes into the it's like taking place in the future. There's basically all these floors and there's a platform of food that goes down to all the floors. And the thing is, it gets very savage because the food runs out, by the time it gets to the lower floors.

Hamsata Mazou 3:21
That makes sense.

Alexis Grant 3:21
So it's a lot of people fighting, killing, cannibalism.

Hamsata Mazou 3:24
Trying to get to the bottom, I guess?

Alexis Grant 3:26
No, they're stuck on the floor. It's like a prison system.

Hamsata Mazou 3:29

Alexis Grant 3:29
So it's two people per floor and the platform moves down a floor every like two minutes or whatever and like passes down the food. But basically the whole, actually, I'm not gonna say the plot twist. Y'all go watch The Platform. But I watched it and there's a lot of. Yeah, it is very interesting. But there's a lot of like, cannibalism and like murder and like, a lot of

Hamsata Mazou 3:49
I would have to watch that with somebody with

Alexis Grant 3:52
It's a lot of suicides, not graphic. It's just that like people like there's no food so they jump down the platform and like,

Jeanine Ikekhua 3:59
They just kill themselves?

Alexis Grant 3:59
Yeah. And then I watched that movie and I literally had a dream that I was on a different floor of the platform every day for a week straight and it was freaking me out because the whole thing is you only stay on one floor for a month and you switch floors and it's random.

Hamsata Mazou 4:15
So you could go up high or down. I mean, let's think about it this way. If you're on the bottom floor at least you know the only way you could go is up.

Alexis Grant 4:23
No, most, if you're on the bottom or you're dead. There's no food getting to you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:29
That's the end of that.

Alexis Grant 4:31
Like yeah, so yeah, but I literally had nightmares every single day for a week straight that I was on a different floor each time so some some nights were okay for me. Other nights I was literally fighting for my life in my dreams.

Hamsata Mazou 4:42
Oh no, how'd you get over it?

Alexis Grant 4:45
I couldn't even tell you I don't know but I'm such

Hamsata Mazou 4:48
But you're over it?

Alexis Grant 4:49
Yeah, I don't have those dreams anymore.

Jeanine Ikekhua 4:50
They just go away after a while.

Alexis Grant 4:51
I'm just, yeah, I'm just such a heavy, visual person. My dreams are very like realistic and like I don't know. That was a lot for me. Like growing up, I had hella nightmares as a kid.

Hamsata Mazou 5:04
See, I was like the opposite. I feel like I rarely dream, and or, even if I dream, I forget about them within like the first like two minutes I'm awake. In my head I never dream.

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:14
The thing, about Hamsata is, Hamsata is in her own world. And I really like it. I really appreciate it. Because sometimes, like, I'm not sure if you know what's going on. But other times, I'm just like, wow, like you're such at peace. I think because you're in your own world. [inaudible], I really do.

Hamsata Mazou 5:38
I appreciate that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 5:39
But yeah, back to nightmares. Hamsata, what were you saying? She don't be having no. But it's so adorable! Um, I have the same nightmares over and over again. It's just, it's, nobody laugh. If y'all laugh

Alexis Grant 5:55
I'm not gonna laugh. I think dreams very serious. I wouldn't, I'm not gonna laugh.

Hamsata Mazou 5:58
I think dreams are reflection, you know of like your subconscious and stuff.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:02
I hope this one don't say much about me. Oh, um, it's about Barney. Okay, you know how like, like Nickelodeon and like Cartoon Network and like all these like children's shows used to have those episodes where like, everybody was in like one episode? Like the crossovers?

Hamsata Mazou 6:14
The crossovers, yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:15
So I had one in my head and it was like Barney, Dora the Explorer, Boots, um, Little Red Riding Hood. And the dream was that Little Red Riding Hood, Boots, and Dora snuck into my apartment. We had like a house in London.

Alexis Grant 6:30
Were they carts-, are they cartoons in this dream? Or are they real?

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:33
Yeah, that mean, I've never thought about that. I just always pictured as cartoons because they've always been cartoon.

Hamsata Mazou 6:39
Yeah, okay.

Alexis Grant 6:40

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:40
They were cartoons.

Alexis Grant 6:41

Jeanine Ikekhua 6:42
Making them real people makes it even more scary. But they were cartoons and they snuck into my, my apartment and they stuck to my mom's room, and they came through the window, even though the door was wide open, but we're not gonna discuss that, they just kinda dumb. They came through the window, and they cut off my mom's leg. And they took my mom's leg with them and went back out the window. Then I didn't know what was happening. And then I woke up and I saw my mom and she was like, bleeding to death. And like, then like, a couple minutes after I had woken up and I was like trying to figure out what was going on, she died. And then like Boots, Diego, Sandy, what her name? Dora, Dora to Sandy, whatever her name is. They were all like outside the window and they were just like looking at me. And then

Alexis Grant 7:21
That's creepy.That's creepy as hell.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:24
I had to be whisked off away by like my mom's family friend. I keep on having that dream like every couple of years.

Alexis Grant 7:31
What happened a Barney though? You started with Barney and Barney never popped up again.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:34
Oh, honestly, dreams be weird. Like things just don't make sense.

Alexis Grant 7:38
Does the cartoon characters circle out? Is that why?

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:41
I don't know, it's always

Alexis Grant 7:43
But Dora's always there.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:44
Dora, Little Red Riding Hood, and Boots are always there.

Hamsata Mazou 7:48
Well, you didn't lose me. I feel like, I was gonna say you immediately lose me. You got me when you said your mom.

Jeanine Ikekhua 7:54
Oh, yeah, that's like the weirdest part of things

Hamsata Mazou 7:56
Like where the cartoon characters come from and then like your mom.

Alexis Grant 7:58
No, it's okay. I understand because I used to have this. It was like, reoccurring but one day I got past like the reoccurring part. I literally woke up screaming. And basically I was like in my house in Atlanta and my parents' like, bedroom is down the hall from me and on the all the way opposite side of the hall is me and my sister's room. And I was like, I left my room. And I can't remember, oh, I would look out my window and I realized that our house was floating on like a wooden platform in the middle of the ocean. And I was just so surprised. I was trying to figure out what was going on. And when I did that, I saw a pirate ship heading our way.

Jeanine Ikekhua 8:36
This is a throwback to that [inaudible laughter].

Alexis Grant 8:46
The pirates like we're coming on our way. So I went to go get my sister and I can't remember what happened. My sister and I haven't this dream in a while. I can't remember if I was carrying her or if she was sleep or I couldn't. I couldn't wake her up. I kept trying to wake her up but she wouldn't wake up. So now I can hear the pirates downstairs like trying to bang through the door. And I'm freaking out because I'm like the pirates are here to kill us. Like they made it very blatantly clear they're here to like, kill us. So I'm running to my parents room and I think this was a fear of when my parents would lock their door.

Hamsata Mazou 9:18
Oh, ooh.

Alexis Grant 9:20

Jeanine Ikekhua 9:21
Ooh, um.

Alexis Grant 9:21
I was a kid. I didn't know, I didn't know. But I was like, ran to my parents, I ran to my parents door and I was like banging on it. I was like "Mom, Dad, please there's pirates." Like "let me in like they're gonna get me and Nessa" like it was just do, do, do, do, do. I'm just hearing, no, they were dead sleep because this was like in the dream. It was already like three in the morning. Like everyone's slump. I just happen to wake up because I used to wake up in the middle of night all the time, naturally. So I'm over here dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Like crying on the floor begging for them. Like I'm hearing them coming up the stairs. I freaked out. I fell out of my bed screaming that day.

Hamsata Mazou 9:57
Was your bed high?

Alexis Grant 9:58
No, but I have fallen off of high beds before and I have hit my head on the way down before.

Hamsata Mazou 10:03
Oh no.

Alexis Grant 10:05
Because I used to move a lot in my dreams. Like I would wake up I'd be like half on the bed, upside down, covers like on the other side of the room, making absolutely no kind of sense. Because I be slump, I be a heavy sleeper.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:21
Nightmares are weird. I don't know what the purpose of them is. I guess like they just happen to your fears and they're like exaggerated.

Hamsata Mazou 10:27
Yeah, I do agree with that.

Alexis Grant 10:29
A lot of dreams they be like the last few things that you're thinking about. So I'm better at, yes, I'm way better now at like, because even as a kid I used to lucid dream all the time. I didn't know till I got like halfway through high school that people don't lucid dream. I thought everybody, when

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:43
Do you lucid dream, Hamsata?

Hamsata Mazou 10:44
I don't even dream in general.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:45
Oh, yeah. You already said that, nevermind.

Alexis Grant 10:45
Lucide dreaming is when you're in control and you're aware. So I used to do that all the time as a kid. I had no idea other people couldn't do that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 10:53
Give an example because I'm very con-

Alexis Grant 10:54
Like you're in your dream and you know it's a dream so you can rewind, fast forward, say what, do whatever you want. I would fly in some of my dreams just because I felt like flying like

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:02

Alexis Grant 11:02
I didn't know people didn't, like couldn't, I thought everybody was having lucid dreams and excessive nightmares.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:10
There they go, here they go.

Alexis Grant 11:13
I thought everybody was having that experience and I didn't. Like the longer I live, the more I know people who'd like, or like you who don't dream, like one of my roommates, she rarely ever dreams.

Hamsata Mazou 11:21
I had a dream recently though. I rarely.

Alexis Grant 11:25
I dream in my naps. I take a 15 minute nap, I can have up to three dreams in that 15 minute

Hamsata Mazou 11:30
I barely even nap in general to be honest. I'm not a napper.

Alexis Grant 11:31
Well, I'mma sleep.

Jeanine Ikekhua 11:33
I'm a napper but like it turns into a sleep. Because I be taking naps and don't like I don't force myself to wake up. I just wake up and I be thinking it's like three days later, I'm like, not three days, it'd be like an hour.

Hamsata Mazou 11:44
Because you might be telling me I'll be like, yo, I wish I was on y'all playing field like, I would love to be able to take a nap real quick, get energized, and move on through my day with that energy. But I think for me, for the most part, my energy stays the same the entire day. Like wherever it's at, it's like that.

Alexis Grant 11:59
Mine is all over the place.

Hamsata Mazou 12:00
It doesn't really deteriorate that much. So, unless something happens, like it's usually an outside source that impacts my energy rather than an internal thing, if that makes sense.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:13
I be faking it all the time, so.

If I'm not doing well, you already know.

It's not even a time. It's just like you get trained into it, but also from the perspective of an immigrant. So that kind of adds context to it. But yeah, majority of the time when I'm by myself, I'm, I feel like I'm mellow most of the time. Just keeping it real.

Alexis Grant 12:32
I feel like I'm very all over the place.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:35
I feel like you are. Some days I'm like, "um, we'll see how she is today." You on the other hand, Miss Hamsata, I know for a fact what I'm gonna get when I see you.

Hamsata Mazou 12:46
Okay, I'm consistent.

Alexis Grant 12:48

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:49
Yeah. And I can tell from like the way you, you wear on you, if that makes sense.

Hamsata Mazou 12:53
Oh, yeah, I agree.

Jeanine Ikekhua 12:54
Yeah, you? I gotta see. Me, I feel like I give it to you direct. You see what you see.

Alexis Grant 12:59

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:00

Hamsata Mazou 13:01
Like, I feel like you're always the same.

Alexis Grant 13:03
I'm the same, but I feel like my energy levels change but the personality stays the same.

Hamsata Mazou 13:11
But I feel like your energy levels over a time period are the same, at least for me. I feel like there's a certain times where like, oh, energies in this, you're in this energy segment for this

Alexis Grant 13:20
Or like phases?

Hamsata Mazou 13:21

Alexis Grant 13:21
Got you.

Hamsata Mazou 13:21
Yeah, like, recently, you're more on like, you're mellow. You're more like, tuned into things. Like you're more like serious about things. Versus like, I guess last semester, I feel like you were a little, all over the place.

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:33
I think you're just growing. Like I literally think that I've, I feel like I've seen her mature in like certain ways. Like, now, I appreciate y'all. And I will always appreciate y'all for doing this. And for letting me be part of this.

Alexis Grant 13:52
Oh, I think I know what you're gonna say.

Jeanine Ikekhua 13:53
Last year, doing On Black versus this semester, you've definitely been on top of your stuff more. Like, I feel like I've had to contact you less on an individual basis to figure out what's going on.

Alexis Grant 14:07
I thought you're gonna say because me and Hamsata used to be the ones who were thinking like, eight months in advance.

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:12
I feel like you're becoming more down to me.

Alexis Grant 14:14
Yeah. And I'm back to like, look at the next couple of weeks.

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:18
Yeah, I feel like, actually no. Forget the mature part, I feel like you're down on my, you're coming more to my level of like, guys, what's going on right now. You on the other hand,

Alexis Grant 14:27
But we need you, we need it. Don't lose it.

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:32
Like we literally just had a meeting and I was about to lose my marbles, Hamsata. Because me and Lexi are trying to figure out what's going on the next two days. Hamsata's like "Hmm, hey, um Oli, how do you feel about that?" I'm like, lemme stop real quick. But it's like, I appreciate it because like, I definitely think that I 100 per-, how did we get from this to that?

Alexis Grant 14:50
That's okay.

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:51
Um, I definitely feel like I could be 100 percent a little bit too.

Alexis Grant 14:55
Like, rigid?

Jeanine Ikekhua 14:57
Yeah, like I'm very like, Okay, let's get it done. I want to be outta here

Hamsata Mazou 15:00
I like it because like you're like

Alexis Grant 15:02

Hamsata Mazou 15:03
Like that's why your name is [inaudible laughter].

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:09
You're just so adorable. Like you're just like, like if I could adopt a child.

Alexis Grant 15:16
Wow, that's a high honor. Yeah, that's a really high honor.

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:20
Like I would have a hard time with it but I would voluntarily [inaudible] you.

Alexis Grant 15:22
That's actually, I'm gonna start crying.

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:25
What the hell?

Alexis Grant 15:25
That's beautiful.

Hamsata Mazou 15:26
No, it really is. I've never gotten a compliment like that like I really appreciate it

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:30
I feel like you'd be a good child like you're just so adorable.

Hamsata Mazou 15:32

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:33
Yeah, but you stress me out though but you very adorable.

Alexis Grant 15:35
Aw, that's your seed.

Jeanine Ikekhua 15:41
Yeah, sure.

Hamsata Mazou 15:42
Thank you, Jeanine.

Alexis Grant 15:43
What was I gonna? Oh, I was gonna ask, do your families believe in prophetic? Help me out here. Prophetic, prophe-, prophet.

Hamsata Mazou 15:50
Of prophecies?

Alexis Grant 15:51
Prophecy, like yeah, prophetic dream.

Hamsata Mazou 15:53
I know what you mean.

Alexis Grant 15:56
Yeah, prophecy, prophecy revealing dream. Prophetic, prophetic?

Hamsata Mazou 16:01
I think that's the word to be on is. But I just thought it might sound weird because we don't use it too often.

Alexis Grant 16:07
I use it enough. But I don't know why I'm not Oh, like, I believe in those. I didn't do. I've had some experiences personally. Which probably nightmares. No profit. No. Like, the dreams revealed the future.

Not quite not great.

Hamsata Mazou 16:30
Okay. Pause. Okay. Rewind, a little rewind, let's define prophetic, prophetic, prophetic

Alexis Grant 16:38
Dreams that hold prophecy in the sense of that they tell the future.

Hamsata Mazou 16:42
Future, okay, that's what I was assuming. But I just wanted you to find it to make sure I'm on the same page.

Alexis Grant 16:45

Hamsata Mazou 16:46
Okay. Do you play the future?

Jeanine Ikekhua 16:47
Well, I would include like warnings and.

Alexis Grant 16:50
Oh yeah, for sure. When I said yeah, not, when I say tell the future, I don't mean blatantly. It can be through symbolism, or like, because I have had, like, certain nightmares that I've realized in the past, like five years, if I have a nightmare that wakes me up, something bad's gonna happen.

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:05
Oh, for real, I'll be nervous.

Alexis Grant 17:07
Yeah, like, because I have nightmares so consistently. Normally, I just dug through them. But like, if a nightmare is bad enough to where I wake up, I normally wake up and I'm like, sweating or shaking. Sometimes I'm crying and I didn't know, like, freaked out. Like, will stay up after that. I can't go back to sleep. Yeah, like they're bad. But normally something like, really bad happens after those dreams,

Jeanine Ikekhua 17:33
See, I don't have those. But I feel like my nightmares like reveal what my biggest fears are. Like, I always like, mine is always about death, because I'll be going to the extreme. My most, my real current one is like the death of my mom. And then my most recent one was the death of my boyfriend. So I just felt like, it just tells him what's my biggest fear, and when I need to like, stop being dramatical

Alexis Grant 17:55
See, mine be like, crazy. Mine, I've had like, nightmares where it's been like torture shows, or like, my whole family got kidnapped, and I had to pick who to shoot, or that,

Hamsata Mazou 18:04
That's a whole drama scene. Cuz what?

Alexis Grant 18:07
And I've had ones where I've been stuck in like, devilish fun houses. And like, I was like, trying to escape through air vents and there's stuff chasing me or like, every time I dropped in.

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:17
I'm just trying to get through life, you make it a whole series of events.

Alexis Grant 18:21
Like, my last. The one that was really really bad. Not the last one I woke up from, but the second to last one I woke up from, basically, you know, like the movie Us. I haven't actually seen it. I've just seen clips and I know what it's about.

Hamsata Mazou 18:35
Witherspoon just had a screening of it like.

Alexis Grant 18:36
Yeah, I didn't want, I can't handle it. Because I know how I am, because that's horror to me.

Hamsata Mazou 18:41
I don't know which one I watched. I know there's like two.

Alexis Grant 18:43
There's Us and there's Them and then there's another one.

Hamsata Mazou 18:45

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:45
There's a Them?

Hamsata Mazou 18:47
I didn't know about that,

Alexis Grant 18:47
I think so. Am I making things up?

Hamsata Mazou 18:49
I feel like I swear there's a them.

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:50
There's Us, they've only released Us.

Alexis Grant 18:55

Jeanine Ikekhua 18:56
There's a Them?

Alexis Grant 18:57
I thought there was a Them.

Hamsata Mazou 18:58
But there's something else. It's the one with the two families.

Alexis Grant 19:02
And they're the same.

Hamsata Mazou 19:03

Alexis Grant 19:04
Is that Us?

Hamsata Mazou 19:05
That's Us?

Alexis Grant 19:06
Yeah. That's Us.

Hamsata Mazou 19:07
Okay, I've seen another one that, the second place one, which was that one?

Alexis Grant 19:11
Isn't that Them?

Jeanine Ikekhua 19:12
Was it Them?

Hamsata Mazou 19:13
I don't think it's called Them, is it called Them?

Alexis Grant 19:16
It's another one worder.

Hamsata Mazou 19:17

Alexis Grant 19:18
But anyways, the Us one with the double demonic families, whatever. I had basically nightmares about that. But I was the only one left, like the rest of my family got switched out, and. No. When I was, my family got replaced. They were all demonic. I had to kill my sister, had to kill my dad, killed my mom. When I went to kill myself, I stabbed myself but I didn't die and it kept coming after me. So I was huddled up in a corner by the stairs repeatedly stabbing, like, my version of myself, and it wasn't dying. And that's when I genuinely started freaking out because I was already scared.

Hamsata Mazou 19:48

Alexis Grant 19:49
But everybody else I had killed died. I'm like, I'm stabbing them with like, a metal pointed like, pole. Like, they're getting disfigured and they're coming after my face and stuff like that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:00
Quick question. You believe in God, real quick?

Alexis Grant 20:01

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:02
Yeah. If you pray, you know, he should help you with these things.

Alexis Grant 20:06
Oh, yeah, no, I had a whole prayer session after this because that next day I got in my car accident. That's what I'm trying, that's the lead up.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:13
You're literally scaring me right now.

Alexis Grant 20:15
Like, when I have night, because I woke up from that nightmare. I was freaked out. That next day, I got in my really, really bad car accident.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:22
I wouldn't leave my house, but then it's like, if you don't leave your house, is something else gonna happen?

Alexis Grant 20:25
Yes. It doesn't matter. Like something. It's just how prepared am I, and how aware I am.

Jeanine Ikekhua 20:30
I guess it's nice that God gave you a warning, but at the same time, like, can we just not do that? Can this just not happen like, please?

Alexis Grant 20:34
Yeah, and there was like some other little warrant. I don't know. There's some other really random words. I told, no, this was afterwards. After me and my first boyfriend had broken up. He had texted me like, this was like a week or two before the car accident, and asked me if I was okay. And I was like, yeah, why? And he was like, I just saw somebody in a car accident. They had the same car as you. That was really deep. Oh, what were you gonna say?

Hamsata Mazou 20:57
How do you carry all that? Like, I'm still not over with like, all that you said? Like.

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:05
After, that's what you say to me?

Hamsata Mazou 21:06
Like somewhat like,

Alexis Grant 21:07
Yeah, cuz after. I'm like, mmm, some of the nightmares are frequent, the waking up nightmares are not. The waking up nightmares, those are the ones that I know something bad's gonna happen.

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:18
How often? Because I feel like in my head, I'm thinking like every other week.

Alexis Grant 21:21
No, because anytime it's bad, it's like bad. So it's not that often.

Hamsata Mazou 21:26
I was thinking like, every like few months?

Alexis Grant 21:28
I wouldn't even say that often.

Hamsata Mazou 21:30
Like once a year?

Alexis Grant 21:30

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:31
Oh okay. That's not that bad.

Alexis Grant 21:33
Now the nightmares. It fluctuates. I can go a whole month and a half with nightmares, and then have no nightmares for a little bit. But like when I was a kid, like, the nightmares were every day. Like, I can't think of one good dream I had as a kid. It was always,

Hamsata Mazou 21:49
You remember all that?

Alexis Grant 21:50
It was- yeah, I remember a lot of my dreams.

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:51
No, I agree.

Hamsata Mazou 21:54
I don't remember any of my dreams.

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:56
A lot of people don't, but.

Hamsata Mazou 21:58
One that I had from Barney.

Jeanine Ikekhua 21:59
Wait, go ahead. Go ahead.

Hamsata Mazou 22:03
The one that I had a while ago. Those are only two dreams I can really remember. Everything else is gone. Like, I have a journal sometimes, I'll write in when I wake up and remember a dream.

Alexis Grant 22:11
I'll let y'all listen to some of my voice memos from middle school. Some of my dreams.

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:15
Oh my gosh.

Alexis Grant 22:16
Because I used to start, I started recording because Middle School is when a lot of my dreams. Because not all the prophetic dreams I have are bad, some of them are really small detailed things that just happen. Like conference, like there's been times I dreamt I like, sat down and had a conversation with this person. I'm like, I never talked to them. And then like a year later, I'll be having that same conversation.

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:33
That is so cool.

Alexis Grant 22:34
So like, So little things like that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 22:36
It's like, I feel like I really wish, not saying that, God I don't want it like, you definitely control my life, period. But like, at the same time like, to just like have little signs of like, like, I got you or like you're gonna be okay, like, that'd be so nice.

Alexis Grant 22:48
Yeah, like I just, I wish I had, like, I was better at documenting it because sometimes I feel like some people, they're like hesitant about what I'm saying. But it's just like, I can't cry, I can't, I, I just can't write down every single dream I have, because I do have a lot of dreams and most of them are hubba blue, you know what I mean? Like. But I can't sit here and write every single dream out, because they're very detailed and I have good memory of my dreams. Like, some of those voice memos, and like.

Oh yeah, just, I would probably record and be like,

Yeah, some of those voice memos are over an hour though. I don't have an hour every morning to talk about my dreams.

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:05
Like an hour for a dream?

Alexis Grant 23:08
Because I remember my, some of my dreams go across spans of years.

Hamsata Mazou 23:25
Oh. You're sleeping for like, what, like eight hours. It makes sense for a dream to like.

Alexis Grant 23:32
It can be a three hour nap and I could have a whole four months happen in that dream. So like, the time just doesn't add up. So I just can't sit there. And I want to, I put down every detail. Like, there's this building, this boutique that keeps showing up in my dreams and it shows up in different dreams.

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:48
It's giving you will be a retailer.

Hamsata Mazou 23:50
I think. What do you think it means?

Jeanine Ikekhua 23:54
That's true. Let's start there.

Alexis Grant 23:55
I'm, I don't know, there's been a few things I've thought of. Sometimes I- Oh, okay. What Jeanine? What do you think it is? No, what do you think?

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:08
What's it called? Remember when she was talking about, um, like traveling all over the world? Her little suitcase, a little janky suitcase.

Alexis Grant 24:14
Oh, you think it's one of the stores, I'm gonna run it?

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:18

Alexis Grant 24:18
I've thought about that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:19
Just like, you would work at.

Alexis Grant 24:21
Oh. You know what's crazy, though.

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:24
Uh oh, here we go.

Alexis Grant 24:26
I haven't seen the store before. But there's one image of the side of the, because the store is the corner store. It's like a boutique corner store. There's one side of the store that I can remember like, what the window on the inside looked like. And there's a store here, near in Raleigh. And I just happened to look at it outside the car and it looked almost identical to the one in my dream, and that was tripping me up for the longest time, because that's like, that store has been showing up in my dreams for years.

Hamsata Mazou 24:50
Oh my god, maybe you're meant to be a rally guy.

Jeanine Ikekhua 24:53

Alexis Grant 24:54
But I don't think it's it, because I'm pretty sure my dream, it's in Europe.

Hamsata Mazou 24:57
Okay, maybe show you you're going on the right path, at least, you know. Maybe.

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:01
I don't have dreams but I have deja vu. Like, if I have deja vu, and I don't just, I don't just like have it once, I have it three times. And it'd be like, if I'm having it three times, that I remember being here three times, I'm supposed to be here. I feel like that could be it. I can see the store.

Alexis Grant 25:15
But I'm pretty sure, because there's a lake near the store. So I think it might be in like, Italy or Venice or something like that.

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:20
Because I can see what like,

Alexis Grant 25:22
I mean, I like a river

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:23
Like a vintage store. I feel like, you're one to like,\ collect vintage things and make it look new.

Alexis Grant 25:28
I'm an antique-er? Wow. Oh, I know what I wanted to ask. I wanted to ask them to jump. Me and Janine already made faces, but you were distracted, which also kind of plays into our answer here. Who do you think would get killed first in a horror film?

Jeanine Ikekhua 25:51
I mean, I'll be naive.

Hamsata Mazou 25:52
Out of the three of us?

Alexis Grant 25:53
Yeah. Hate to, hate for us to gang up on you.

Hamsata Mazou 26:00
Okay, let's get explanations.

Alexis Grant 26:02
But when I first asked the question, you were the only one who didn't respond and we were both looking at you, and you didn't even notice. I'm not gonna say, that kind of reinforced it, if we're going to be quite frank.

Jeanine Ikekhua 26:13
I keep it above what you know. Um.

Hamsata Mazou 26:16
Okay. Realistically speaking, I don't know like, I feel like you guys haven't seen me in a situation where I need to fight for my life. Do you know what I mean? Because I have like, a side which will occur within me, I think I've never been actually in danger for me to be like, Oh. But I definitely feel like a switch will occur, like how I am now to now. Truthfully, the way I think of things right now, is that nothing is finite. Nothing is gonna like, hurt me, so I really play like, willy nilly, like a game to be honest.

Jeanine Ikekhua 26:52
But that's also why I feel like in a horror film, you'd get killed first.

Hamsata Mazou 26:56
But like, as long as in my head, I know this is a dangerous situation I need to take seriously, a switch will occur, but I, consider.

Alexis Grant 27:03
Don't think of this as real. Think of this in a horror movie.

Hamsata Mazou 27:06
But what'd I do in a horror movie.

Jeanine Ikekhua 27:08
Like, scare movie three.

Hamsata Mazou 27:09
Oh, I don't know. But yeah, I totally will still be the first one to die, but I won't die easily is what I'm trying to say. Like, I feel like y'all thinking like, Ahh. Right, like I'll put up a good fight, like at the end of the day. Right. No, because sometimes I do be- Let's not get into that. Anyways.

Alexis Grant 27:33
Not about to expose yourself.

Hamsata Mazou 27:35
As long as I know that this is a real like, life or death situation, a switch is gonna occur and I'm gonna actually you know, do a little fighting.

Alexis Grant 27:43
Who you think will die second, Jeanine?

Hamsata Mazou 27:45
Second out of the two of y'all?

Alexis Grant 27:46

Hamsata Mazou 27:46
Actually, you know, I think it's a tie personally. Like, I feel like y'all both have good fighting senses. I don't think anyone's above the other.

Alexis Grant 27:54
Depends on the killer.

Jeanine Ikekhua 27:55
You know, I agree.

Hamsata Mazou 27:56
I think you guys have strengths in different departments, but they're good strengths, if that makes sense.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:01
You know what I'll say? I think we'd all live. And why?

Alexis Grant 28:04

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:04
Because I would go into mother instinct, and I would drag the life out of all of y'all. Like Hamsata. Um. Because you and Lexi, you're gonna wander off. You holding me by the hand. I'm gonna be like, me and Lexi doing mom and dad, and we're leaving you there, that's what it's giving, nobody's dying on my watch. Me and Lexi are doing mom and dad.

Hamsata Mazou 28:29
Okay, that works.

Alexis Grant 28:31
Especially like if I live right, because if you live.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:35
But if it's every man for themselves, I really don't know.

Alexis Grant 28:38
I really, don't I feel like it depends on the type of killer.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:40
Okay, let's, let's say the killer now.

Hamsata Mazou 28:42
Okay, okay if it's.

Jeanine Ikekhua 28:43
If it's Barney or, I'm out. I'm so sorry, I'm dead.

Hamsata Mazou 28:50
You know what actually scares you.

Alexis Grant 28:52
Do you know what your guys's, like fear response is? Like, are you fight, flight, or?

Hamsata Mazou 28:57
I don't know. Just talking about like, I have no clue. Like, I don't think I've actually been fully.

Alexis Grant 29:02
I exhibit two of them.

Hamsata Mazou 29:04
Which ones?

Alexis Grant 29:05
Fight if it's close proximity. If I get, if you, somebody scares me and they're like, really close to me. My initial instinct is to start hitting.

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:13
Oh, no, I agree. Because when people jump scare me, I don't like, like, you know how people like fall back. Like, Ah. I like, hit. Like hitting the front.

Hamsata Mazou 29:23
Yeah. And it's like, I'm not a reactionary person.

Alexis Grant 29:27
So would you be stuck? Because some people get paralyzed, like fear paralyzation.

Hamsata Mazou 29:30
Stuck. I don't know about stuck. I feel like I definitely would move, because when things happen, I'm like, I'm a flincher.

Alexis Grant 29:37
I'm a heavy foot.

Hamsata Mazou 29:39
I don't think I've ever called like, me as a person, I don't think I'm like, ever still. So I don't see myself being paralyzed. That's like, very weird for me to do.

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:46
I think, I think I would either, depending on the killer. I think I'd be paralyzed. I think I'll just sit there and be like, I'm not playing your game, but you can go ahead.

Alexis Grant 29:55

Jeanine Ikekhua 29:56
I think I would just stood there, and be like.

Hamsata Mazou 29:58
But then I feel like, I still know how to recognize a situation, I'm gonna get me a little stick, you know, and start fighting. So I just.

Alexis Grant 30:05
Whittle whittle whittle, stab stab stab

Hamsata Mazou 30:07
Unless I know the situation, I'm about to react off rip unless I like, get a consensus.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:11
Let's, let's state the killer. What, what is like.

Alexis Grant 30:14
What, what type of killer? I wish y'all had seen Hush, because I would have said the Hush killer. He's like a man with a crossbow. But he also gets, he also has hand to hand combat.

Hamsata Mazou 30:25
Okay, what do you, you keep asking us to bring up a killer, what killer do you, what killer do you have in mind?

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:28
Like a ghost, or like? Oh okay.

Hamsata Mazou 30:29
Here's the thing, I think, because. If it's Chucky, we all livin. I don't care, bruh.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:31
Nah, for real. I will stomp on that man real quick, and he will just fold.

Hamsata Mazou 30:40
I, see, I watched Chucky before but I don't remember the plot at all. And I watched Annabelle before too, I don't remember the plot either.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:46
But that man's small.

Hamsata Mazou 30:47
I remember he's a doll. Like I know what he looked like, but what was the plot?

Alexis Grant 30:50
He was- I don't remember.

Jeanine Ikekhua 30:51
I don't remember either, bro. I was laughing the whole time to Chucky. I was watching with my friend and I could not breathe. Chucky was the funniest movie in that day.

Hamsata Mazou 30:57
Oh, Ghostbusters. I watched that too. I don't remember the plot to that either.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:00
Nah, if it's ghost. Ah. I'm running.

Alexis Grant 31:04
I'm runnning.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:04
The ghost, the paranormal.

Hamsata Mazou 31:05
I honestly, I don't think you can fight those either. Like.

Alexis Grant 31:08
The spiritual stuff. I actually might freeze, that might make me freeze. Honestly. If there was- yeah, me too. I would literally fall to my, like, and I would just pray that like, it don't hurt and I'm not aware of it. Like, it's fine if it happened. Just, I don't want to be aware. Don't make me aware of anything that happens next.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:09
I think I would run and pray.

Alexis Grant 31:26
I don't even think I would run because I'd be like, they're literally supernatural. What is my running gonna do? Unless there's a church near me.

Hamsata Mazou 31:34
I feel like I'd call. I'll call my mom and be like, hey, what do I do?

Alexis Grant 31:38
I ain't got no holy water in my house.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:40
She's gonna say God.

Hamsata Mazou 31:42
No, she probably gonna say that, but like, you know.

Alexis Grant 31:45
There is no holy water.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:49
I would call my mom and be like, no questions, let's pray together. And we have.

Hamsata Mazou 31:52
No facts, that too.

Jeanine Ikekhua 31:53
Yeah, cuz I feel like the more people that pray.

Hamsata Mazou 31:55
Facts, I'll be here to call back home. Imma call my mom to call back home. And be like, get these prayers. Start running up.

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:01
No for real, it's giving group FaceTime, let's go.

Alexis Grant 32:03
No, I don't even think I would make it there. I think I would just freeze and I'd just drop.

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:07
That's valid though, because if you think about it like,

Alexis Grant 32:09
Bro. Hamsata, think about it. It's literally, through the wall, a spirit, a spirit, a demonic entity. Through the wall.

Hamsata Mazou 32:18
Okay, I was about to say, is it a nice one or a bad one?

Alexis Grant 32:21
No, it's bad! It's gonna kill us! Man's just, through the wall.

Hamsata Mazou 32:26
I think I would pause. Actually. I would literally look at him and go. No, I think that's exactly what I would do. And then if he don't kill me, I slowly go get my phone. I'll be like ah.

Alexis Grant 32:37
I don't think I could even make it I'd be too afraid to move.

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:39
Now this is the scene, we're sitting right here.

Alexis Grant 32:41

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:42
And a demonic entity. I'm talking like, demonic, like straight up from the pits of hell.

Alexis Grant 32:47
Okay. Yeah. Like my.

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:48
Seeing through the window. It peeks. And then like, moves away and then we're like,

Alexis Grant 32:53
What was that?

Jeanine Ikekhua 32:54
What is that? And then we just see it walk through the door.

Alexis Grant 32:56
Am I facing this way, am I my facing away from the windows? Okay, so what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna keep acting natural, grab my phone and call the police.

Hamsata Mazou 33:04
I guess more people, I guess more. Something's gonna happen.

Alexis Grant 33:07
Something. Something. I'm gonna start calling and texting people. But I'm gonna keep it natural because I haven't been scared enough because I haven't seen them.

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:14
The ones that I hate is demonic possession.

Hamsata Mazou 33:18
Imagine getting possessed.

Alexis Grant 33:19
Why would she say- I knew she was about to say. Why would you say that to us?

Hamsata Mazou 33:23

Alexis Grant 33:24
I had a fear that actually, the last time I had a really bad nightmare. I was like, if I could.

Hamsata Mazou 33:29
What does it feel like to be possessed? Like, do you?

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:32
Hamsata. You know what I feel. Have you ever had sleep paralysis?

Hamsata Mazou 33:37
No, what is that?

Alexis Grant 33:38
Have you?

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:38
I've had that and I've had it multiple times.

Alexis Grant 33:40
I'm too afraid of that. I'm scared.

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:42
Have you ever had it?

Alexis Grant 33:43
No, I'm scared. I'm too hypervisual. I, I, where you're stuck. Like you're awake. Well, are you always awake?

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:51
So, let me explain. It's like. So like. So pretty much like, so from your,

Alexis Grant 33:55
So you're paralyzed.

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:56
That's where the paralysis part comes in.

Hamsata Mazou 33:58
I mean, I got that part, but like.

Jeanine Ikekhua 33:59
Well I, I had to make sure. Like you're awake, but you're not in control of your body, like, you can see what's going on. But you can't scream, you can't call for help. You can't move your body. And there's, like for me, when I have mine. I haven't had it in a very long time.

Alexis Grant 34:13
Do you get sleep paralysis demons?

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:15
No, I don't get demons.

Alexis Grant 34:16

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:17
But it just feels like, like the one that I can vividly remember, I was in my old house in Florida. I know the exact address. I'm not gonna say it. But, I was in my old house in Florida in my apartment, and I was in my room and I was like, in my bed. And I was literally trying to fall asleep but I kept on like getting like, stuck, like, I couldn't move my body. And I would wake up and I'd be like, I can't fall, I can't fall asleep. And then like, I eventually fell asleep. And I woke up and like, it felt like there was like a demon hovering over me. But like everything was in black and white. Nothing was in color. It was just like a demon hovering over me. And I was through the, in my room, and there was a chair at the corner.

Alexis Grant 34:55
Ooh, I'm getting chills.

Jeanine Ikekhua 34:56
And like, I could, I could like see it. Like. Because I, my eyes, could only go so far back like.

Alexis Grant 35:02
Yeah, because you can't move your head.

Jeanine Ikekhua 35:03
Yeah. And like, I could see it like, at the corner and it was just like hovering over me. And like, I was just stuck, couldn't move my head, couldn't call my mom for help. I remember I tried to call my mom because like, it literally felt like, like, it felt like I was sleeping. I woke up and like, it happened, and I could not move. And then like, there was like this quick second, where likem I came back and like everything back to normal. And that used to freak me out, because the fact that it felt so real, and that it would go from like, seeing this chair, seeing a demon over me, to nothing, and it's just like.

Alexis Grant 35:34
No, that's scary. I used to know a guy who had daymares, y'all know about daymares?

Hamsata Mazou 35:39
Are those day nightmares?

Alexis Grant 35:40
Yeah, so you're fully awake. But like, you're stuck in a dream. So everything you're seeing, it's like all night, like I wouldn't be seeing this room. I'd just be seeing nightmare stuff, like, so you're awake. But you're having a nightmare. But you're like, you're just having,

Hamsata Mazou 35:53
I think my brain has restrictions. And I think I'm glad for these restrictions. Because I truthfully, I think, now that I think about it, I think I'm the way I am because I don't experience these things, like.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:06
No, they definitely play a lot on your psyche and how you think I'm not gonna lie.

Hamsata Mazou 36:10
Because I don't think like that. Like I,

Alexis Grant 36:11
That even kind of explains her like, bubble seal a little bit.

Hamsata Mazou 36:15
Yeah, like, I don't know. I did not know people experienced these things.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:20
You said mine is sleep paralysis, but I feel like if I believe that sleep paralysis happened, I can definitely see the other things happening.

Hamsata Mazou 36:23
I mean, I believe you guys for sure. Like I believe, however like, it's just insane to me like, you know, like,

Alexis Grant 36:34
Especially lucid. I literally thought everybody lucid dreams.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:37
I have never lucid dreamed.

Alexis Grant 36:38
I thought every- you want me to help you? I've helped some people, lucid dream before.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:41
Hey, I wanna get help.

Hamsata Mazou 36:43
Wait, are they gonna be good ones or bad ones?

Alexis Grant 36:46
If you're lucid dreaming you control it. You're in complete control.

Hamsata Mazou 36:48
Oh, okay. Mine are gonna be happy.

Jeanine Ikekhua 36:50
Yeah, I think I'm afraid just because like, I trust myself, I'm gonna hold me down. But at the same time, I don't like to experiment or go anywhere near anything like that. Just cuz like, I don't know what could happen. And I feel like if God wants me lucid dreaming, I'll lucid dream. If I'm not.

Alexis Grant 37:05
Fair. It's not like I do any rituals or anything. I just like, but.

Hamsata Mazou 37:08
You're just guiding somebody. Right?

Alexis Grant 37:10
I just, I just give them some like. Well, yeah, I just tell them like, some things that help you to lucid dream, because sometimes I lucid dream on purpose. My purpose.

Hamsata Mazou 37:18
Kind of like meditation?

Jeanine Ikekhua 37:20
You could be there when she does it to me, if you want.

Alexis Grant 37:22
It doesn't necessarily mean it'll like, happen. I just know some things that can help you to possibly lucid dream. But I don't know if it's harder with you. Because normally when I help people, they're already people who dream. I just help them to be lucid in their dreams. So yeah, but I can try and help you. I can try. But yeah.

Jeanine Ikekhua 37:44
I mean, if you do it through me and I hold her hand like, we could make- let me stop.

Alexis Grant 37:47
Yeah, it don't quite work like that. It don't quite work like that. But I see what, I see where the,

Jeanine Ikekhua 37:53
See the vision.

Alexis Grant 37:54
I see the vision. No, I see the vision. That's it. We're gonna stop it there. I see the vision. Yeah, I think we're good.

Hamsata Mazou 38:03
Me too. I think I'll put a little chat and the answer after my part in this episode.

Alexis Grant 38:11
You did great, Jeanine

Hamsata Mazou 38:12
Yeah. Jeanine, I would like to say you was up there. My accent is terrible, actually. So I'll stop.

Alexis Grant 38:18
Eat eat eat.

Hamsata Mazou 38:19
Yeah, eat in the plate.

Jeanine Ikekhua 38:20
When I go to the UK.

Hamsata Mazou 38:20
She's going to be a UK bad gyal. Bad gyal.

Alexis Grant 38:26
When I go- let me stop.

Hamsata Mazou 38:28
When she goes to the UK.

Jeanine Ikekhua 38:29
When I come back, when I come back from the abroad.

Hamsata Mazou 38:33
Innit. Innit for real.

Alexis Grant 38:37
Stop playing me, because I'm gonna do the accent.

Hamsata Mazou 38:38
I'm gonna do one thing and one thing only, one thing and one thing only, come back with that UK baddie makeup look.

Alexis Grant 38:45
Ooh. Know how to do it. You know, come here.

Hamsata Mazou 38:53
Come back. Show us how to do it.

Alexis Grant 38:55
She's losing it. She's losing it.

Hamsata Mazou 38:57
I'm losing what?

Alexis Grant 38:59
Nothing, nothing.

Hamsata Mazou 39:00

Alexis Grant 39:01
She's making me lose it because I feel like,

Jeanine Ikekhua 39:03
So honest shot. If I come back with a actual like, a mini accent. Just know that I'm used to having to change my accent.

Hamsata Mazou 39:09
No, I agree with you.

Jeanine Ikekhua 39:12
It's going to happen. I know it's going to happen.

Hamsata Mazou 39:13
Can we talk about that? Can we talk about this? Okay, it'll have to be on the episode. Yes.

Jeanine Ikekhua 39:17
Lemme talk about the immigrant experience, because, I,

Alexis Grant 39:19
You want to talk about that next episode?

Jeanine Ikekhua 39:21

Alexis Grant 39:21

Hamsata Mazou 39:22
But I don't feel like I'm an immigrant though.

Alexis Grant 39:24
Oh, we gotta say bye. Okay, we talk about that next episode. We talk about that next episode.

Hamsata Mazou 39:29
Oh, okay.

Jeanine Ikekhua 39:33
Girl give me the, goodbye.

Alexis Grant 39:34
Yeah like, we have to say bye. We haven't even said bye to everybody yet.

Hamsata Mazou 39:37
Okay guys. Thank you so much for listening to the episode. We hope you enjoyed.

Alexis Grant 39:42
Yeah. Um, tell us about, do you lucid dream? Do you even have dreams? Do you have nightmares? Do you have prophetic dreams? Do you also have sleep paralysis?

Hamsata Mazou 39:51
And what ghost you think is gonna get you? Like,

Alexis Grant 39:53

Hamsata Mazou 39:53
Who you think is really gonna get you down? Like, which scary movie character you think-

Jeanine Ikekhua 39:58
Turn off the radio.

Alexis Grant 40:01
We're actually done here, um, what's your, oh, what's your favorite horror or thriller?

Hamsata Mazou 40:05
Are you guys excited about fall? On Black.

Alexis Grant 40:12
Oh, follow the Instagram.

Hamsata Mazou 40:16
We gotta make it sound creepy.

Jeanine Ikekhua 40:18
We got, that's not, that's not creepy. That's like hip hop black.

Hamsata Mazou 40:22
That's my, I don't, go to, you know,

Alexis Grant 40:33
Follow us. Onblack.podcast.

Hamsata Mazou 40:44
dot podcast. On Instagram, and make sure to follow us to see behind the scene. Onblack.podcast.

Alexis Grant 40:56
Okay. Goodbye guys.

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