Life22: Yes or No 001 (Day 13,839)

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Day 13,839 - Yes or No 001.mp3
Transcript
00:00:05 Kevin
Hey gang, Kevin here, Life 22, and today we have a return guest on the show, and we're here for a little bit of a game.
00:00:13 Kevin
The game is the yes or no game.
00:00:15 Kevin
I've had it for a while and been meaning to try it out and try out a new style in the studio with a guest, and so today we have the returning of Paul the Good Pusband.
00:00:26 Kevin
Paul, what's going on, man?
00:00:29 Kevin
A little bit of a unique view on the show.
00:00:33 Kevin
Paul's been on the show before, and he is Paul the good husband up on the screen.
00:00:42 Kevin
So the yes or no game, for those who are not familiar, we have a stack of cards here.
00:00:46 Kevin
They have some questions.
00:00:48 Kevin
They might be political in nature.
00:00:49 Kevin
They might be odd.
00:00:53 Kevin
They could be challenging.
00:00:55 Kevin
My job is to guess what your answer to the question is, and then you will
00:01:03 Kevin
unveil what your answer is, and then we kind of go forward with a discussion, a little bit of a reasoning on why your answer or question or whatever is what it is.
00:01:13 Kevin
And then we rotate.
00:01:14 Kevin
And then we keep track, and if I guess right, I get a point.
00:01:17 Kevin
If I guess wrong, I lose a point, and then it goes back and forth.
00:01:21 Kevin
So we've got Kevin and Paul.
00:01:28 Kevin
Paul?
00:01:33 Kevin
I'm going to slide the first question to you.
00:01:35 Kevin
read the question and then I will choose how to, yes.
00:01:38 Kevin
Okay.
00:01:38 Paul
All right, ready.
00:01:42 Kevin
Sure.
00:01:42 Kevin
Ready when you are, buddy.
00:01:43 Paul
It says, **** is demon worship.
00:01:46 Kevin
How would Paul answer this question?
00:01:49 Kevin
How would Paul answer this question?
00:02:04 Kevin
I feel like your wife would answer the opposite.
00:02:06 Kevin
I feel like you would answer no, but your wife would answer yes.
00:02:10 Paul
You'd be right.
00:02:14 Kevin
Why is it not, Paul?
00:02:16 Kevin
This is the discussion part of the show.
00:02:19 Paul
I think it's more of a worship of self almost in a way.
00:02:22 Paul
You know, you're satisfying your own needs and desires and lusts rather than trying to, you know.
00:02:29 Kevin
So feel like that.
00:02:32 Kevin
I feel like that answer, if, so this is where your wife believes in demons, right?
00:02:38 Kevin
Like, you can have faith in Christianity or Judaism or, you know, Islam, but if you don't believe in demons, then how could it be demon worship, right?
00:02:48 Kevin
See, like, I feel like, do you believe in demons?
00:02:51 Paul
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's angels and demons.
00:02:53 Paul
Yeah, I believe that.
00:02:53 Kevin
Okay.
00:02:55 Kevin
That's where I'm kind of like, is that where you're going?
00:02:58 Kevin
Because with the,
00:03:00 Kevin
Would the worship of the self still not be demon demonic influence if you believe in demons.
00:03:07 Paul
I don't know.
00:03:07 Paul
I think it's more of, you know, just more of, you know, if you're going off of the religious side of things, you know, obviously there's, you know, what's honoring of God and then there's honoring of, you know, the world or of the self, you know, and I would categorize it, you know, I guess more for, you know, it being, you know, of more pleasure rather than, you know, God sets up
00:03:33 Paul
sex and love, a union between, a man and wife, and her husband and wife, and her boyfriend and girlfriend.
00:03:43 Paul
And when you kind of go against that, is it anti-God?
00:03:49 Paul
maybe.
00:03:50 Paul
it's definitely something that could lead to not being intimate with, your.
00:03:59 Kevin
Right, so your no answer is not, it's still a condemnation of *********** but it's not a...
00:04:08 Paul
But it's just the term that they call demon worship.
00:04:11 Paul
I wouldn't call it that.
00:04:13 Kevin
No, right?
00:04:14 Paul
I would just call it more of just...
00:04:15 Kevin
Do you ever read the Screwtape letters?
00:04:17 Kevin
No.
00:04:18 Kevin
C.S.
00:04:19 Kevin
Lewis, Uncle Screwtape was a demon that writes letters to his nephew, Screwtape, who was messing with humans in the world and their own.
00:04:28 Kevin
But you got to go down that rabbit hole of actual how much influence, if you believe in demons and angels versus how much influence do they actually have.
00:04:37 Kevin
Because some people believe they exist, like they believe ghosts exist, but they don't believe ghosts are all around them all the time.
00:04:42 Kevin
It's in certain scenarios and certain instances.
00:04:45 Kevin
See what I mean?
00:04:46 Kevin
If you believe at all in ghosts, right?
00:04:48 Kevin
So it's kind of a very similar category.
00:04:51 Kevin
You want to move on.
00:04:52 Paul
Yeah.
00:04:53 Kevin
Okay.
00:04:54 Paul
That was a tough one.
00:04:55 Kevin
Yeah, there you go.
00:04:55 Kevin
That's the purpose of the game.
00:04:57 Kevin
It gets people having this dialogue on different things.
00:05:00 Kevin
And you can have these conversations with other people.
00:05:04 Kevin
So I'm going to take a point for that round.
00:05:12 Kevin
And in the true nature of the game, it is a drinking game.
00:05:16 Kevin
So if you win, if you lose the round, you
00:05:23 Kevin
have to drink.
00:05:24 Kevin
If you win, you get to drink.
00:05:27 Kevin
So, women shouldn't be police officers?
00:05:45 Paul
I just slide my...
00:05:46 Kevin
So, hold on.
00:05:48 Kevin
I'm trying to think of how, because sometimes they get this, like, so...
00:05:57 Kevin
Okay.
00:05:58 Kevin
I'm...
00:05:59 Kevin
I'm ready.
00:06:07 Kevin
So I'm agreeing with the statement that women should not be police officers.
00:06:15 Kevin
That's where it gets, that's where the game also gets tricky is the wording of the question.
00:06:18 Kevin
So you're saying that yes, women shouldn't be police officers is what my answer would be?
00:06:27 Paul
I guess I was going more of yes, women can be police officers.
00:06:30 Paul
I guess that's what I was going for.
00:06:31 Kevin
Okay, so then your thought process would be no, which you would be correct.
00:06:38 Kevin
Okay.
00:06:41 Kevin
So Paul gets a point for that round.
00:06:47 Kevin
Oh, I'll also take your discard.
00:06:48 Kevin
I guess we'll put the discard pile over here.
00:06:53 Kevin
And the draw pile there works.
00:06:54 Kevin
Perfect.
00:06:55 Kevin
So we want to have a discussion about it.
00:06:58 Kevin
So I mean, no, I think that there's a lot of fine officers.
00:07:02 Kevin
I think that to instill like this DEI requirement for men and women and just all sorts of different communities where we're like, well, we're going to take a guy who's a black police officer or an Asian police officer over a white guy or over a white woman because of the color of their skin, or we need to have more women
00:07:25 Kevin
applying kind of like where they dropped the metric and merit for the army or the seals.
00:07:31 Kevin
Remember that they were dropping the they were dropping that whole like they were going to start lowering the standard for seals towards the end of the last presidential administration.
00:07:39 Kevin
They were talking about it and it was like, no, that's that doesn't mean that like more women are more capable.
00:07:44 Kevin
It's like if they're capable and they should be able to meet the standard to test at which point they can do it.
00:07:50 Kevin
And so for police officers, obviously they're not held the same standards.
00:07:54 Kevin
SEAL Team 6.
00:07:55 Paul
Right.
00:07:55 Kevin
So, I don't have that.
00:07:57 Paul
There's a lot of social aspects of, most of the police work is going to.
00:08:04 Paul
This is you.
00:08:05 Paul
No, I'm lying.
00:08:06 Paul
I'm lying.
00:08:09 Paul
You know, a lot of police calls are, you know, just human in nature.
00:08:13 Paul
You know, you're dealing with either, you know, domestic disputes or, you know, somebody that's a victim.
00:08:19 Paul
A lot of times the victims are the women.
00:08:21 Paul
So, sometimes it's important to, definitely have another female be able to, send him, take him aside and say, Hey, what happened?
00:08:30 Kevin
And you can get somebody to open up to.
00:08:32 Paul
You more, sometimes if you just got the crap beat out of you by an abusive person or something like that.
00:08:37 Kevin
And maybe men have been abusing you your whole life, and so you don't want to come talk to a man.
00:08:42 Kevin
So, yeah, and I get that.
00:08:43 Kevin
I can see where that's.
00:08:44 Paul
And also even just sometimes the mental health, you know, when some people are really having a hard time, you know, women just have that natural ability of being.
00:08:52 Kevin
Mothering.
00:08:52 Paul
Mothering and just, can just go on a softer touch that, maybe a guy may not come across for somebody that's having mental, instance.
00:09:00 Paul
And they're just as brave, and there's definitely scary, going on calls and not knowing what's going to happen once you open that door.
00:09:07 Paul
So, if they're willing to take the oath and, put on the badge, go for it.
00:09:14 Kevin
Did you already pull the card?
00:09:15 Paul
I have not.
00:09:21 Paul
this one doesn't really being a woman has helped my career.
00:09:24 Paul
I guess that's a discard.
00:09:26 Kevin
Well, I mean, that's an easy one, Paul.
00:09:28 Kevin
You're not going to give me a...
00:09:31 Paul
Go on, I like a bull challenge.
00:09:35 Paul
The Aztecs deserve what they got.
00:09:38 Paul
Trying to remember my history real quick.
00:09:42 Kevin
Watch your hand.
00:09:45 Kevin
It's on camera so I can see.
00:09:46 Kevin
I don't want to have to see your...
00:09:50 Kevin
So how would Paul answer on the Aztecs deserve what they got?
00:09:57 Paul
Is that in the reference to like the Spanish coming and basically conquering them?
00:10:01 Paul
Is that kind of what they're asking?
00:10:04 Kevin
Yeah, I would assume that's if that's how you're interpreting it.
00:10:08 Paul
Yeah, I'm just trying to remember who's the Aztecs and which one was.
00:10:12 Kevin
Like, so Cortez, the Spanish conquistadors, those guys came in and they slaughtered the Aztecs.
00:10:18 Kevin
So
00:10:21 Kevin
I'm going to say Paul assumes that it's yes, that they did.
00:10:29 Paul
I was going to know Martha.
00:10:30 Kevin
No, you don't think they got, they deserve what they got.
00:10:33 Paul
Not particularly.
00:10:35 Paul
I mean, you know, they were just doing their own thing, living in their own world, and all of a sudden outsiders came and basically invaded their lands and took away everything they had.
00:10:45 Paul
You know, I mean, obviously,
00:10:48 Paul
That's been the history of mankind, to conquer another race or people and then, take their natural resources and stuff like that.
00:10:57 Paul
But I mean, did they deserve to die?
00:10:58 Paul
No, I don't think they deserve to die.
00:11:00 Kevin
I think that if you had more knowledge on the Aztecs, then I think that you'd be like, wow, guys, the Spanish showed up.
00:11:09 Kevin
And they were slaughtering, they were doing human sacrifices, women and children to the gods to make stuff grow.
00:11:16 Kevin
Everybody points them out to be this like great superior, like tribe of people that, built all the Aztec pyramids.
00:11:26 Kevin
they just found them, right?
00:11:28 Kevin
Yeah.
00:11:28 Kevin
So they found these pyramids, kind of moved in just and then just started like destroying stuff.
00:11:35 Kevin
For the last year, I've kind of gained quite a bit of knowledge on the Aztecs.
00:11:39 Kevin
And then most recently, I watched Matt Walsh's Uncovering History.
00:11:44 Kevin
I don't know if you've seen the new documentary series by Matt Walsh.
00:11:49 Kevin
It's pretty phenomenal.
00:11:51 Kevin
He just went over all of that with, he did Slavery, The Truth Behind Slavery last month, and then he actually did Native Americans into the, I believe, the Aztecs.
00:12:00 Kevin
So, which kind of like most of, so.
00:12:04 Kevin
Yeah.
00:12:07 Kevin
So I lost my point, Paul.
00:12:08 Paul
Oh, I'm sorry.
00:12:09 Kevin
Yeah.
00:12:10 Kevin
Don't worry.
00:12:11 Kevin
This game isn't over yet.
00:12:14 Kevin
Virtue is more important than freedom.
00:12:29 Kevin
Virtue is more important than freedom.
00:12:33 Kevin
We need to add soft music to the background once we're done.
00:12:51 Paul
I guess I'm trying too hard to think how I would pick in rice.
00:12:54 Paul
I got to be picking what you're picking.
00:12:56 Kevin
Yeah.
00:13:01 Kevin
Feel free to enjoy any breakfast sandwich that my wife has made from farm fresh chicken eggs.
00:13:06 Kevin
No.
00:13:07 Kevin
You are correct, Paul.
00:13:09 Kevin
I do not think that virtue is more important than freedom.
00:13:13 Kevin
Virtue is virtue signaling.
00:13:15 Kevin
Like that would be, you know, virtuous to select
00:13:20 Kevin
the female or black candidate over the white candidate because that's what society would expect of me.
00:13:26 Kevin
It's more virtuous, right?
00:13:27 Kevin
And I think that our freedom is more important than such frivolous things.
00:13:30 Kevin
So yes, you are correct.
00:13:32 Kevin
You know your buddy, Kevin.
00:13:33 Kevin
Yay.
00:13:39 Paul
There is no separation between church and state.
00:13:47 Kevin
How was the whole answer?
00:13:53 Kevin
So yes or no, you think it's true or false, essentially.
00:14:02 Paul
Right.
00:14:06 Kevin
So there is no separation of church and state.
00:14:10 Kevin
So if I say yes, that means I think my buddy Paul thinks that answer, that question is accurate and correct.
00:14:18 Kevin
So I am going to, I believe that Paul thinks there is a separation.
00:14:29 Kevin
I, as of late, do not, I would agree with that statement.
00:14:37 Kevin
What's your answer, Paul?
00:14:40 Paul
I'm just trying to find what I was going to say, and then if you would be correct or not.
00:14:49 Paul
I think what I wanted to say was yes, but there's no separation between a church and a state.
00:14:56 Kevin
You're saying there is a separation of church and state?
00:14:59 Paul
I mean, traditionally no, but as of yet, as of now, then there is yes.
00:15:05 Paul
Do I think we should?
00:15:09 Paul
I would say probably yes.
00:15:10 Paul
So I'm going to go with yes.
00:15:15 Kevin
Okay.
00:15:16 Kevin
Negative 1.
00:15:17 Kevin
Oh yeah, you got it.
00:15:18 Kevin
point for the last round, didn't you, Paul?
00:15:21 Paul
What's that?
00:15:23 Paul
Yeah, I guess I did.
00:15:24 Kevin
Yeah.
00:15:26 Kevin
Negative 1 for Kevin.
00:15:28 Kevin
So.
00:15:32 Paul
Elaborate.
00:15:33 Kevin
Elaborate on my breaking down on this?
00:15:35 Kevin
Separation of church and state.
00:15:37 Kevin
So I think there is a separation of church and state.
00:15:41 Kevin
I think there is.
00:15:45 Kevin
To a degree.
00:15:45 Kevin
I think that like we say that there's a separation of church and state.
00:15:48 Kevin
And if you follow like the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers, they talk about how there should be a separation of church and state as so that the state does not corrupt the church.
00:16:01 Kevin
But is there a separation of church and state in the actual sense that like the church and what people believe in?
00:16:08 Kevin
We'll look at secularism, right?
00:16:10 Kevin
People who don't actually believe in a church, like atheists believe in nothing, and that's a belief, and that is their church.
00:16:16 Kevin
Their church is no God, no structure, no whatever.
00:16:21 Kevin
There's people with purple hair, you know what I mean?
00:16:22 Kevin
That's the purple-haired people eaters, you know.
00:16:27 Paul
And, like I said, going back to traditionally, a lot of the rules and the Constitution was derived off of, scripture and, morals that were, accepted for, decades and hundreds of years that, they embrace also from England and, brought over to the United States and recognize that there shouldn't be 1 sole
00:16:53 Paul
religion that the state sponsors, that it was either this or nothing, and yet still most of those founders were of religious belief.
00:17:05 Paul
And so they essentially put their beliefs into what, allowed, religion to be free.
00:17:15 Paul
And, it seemed like most people practiced that sort of mindset at the time, whereas it's kind of,
00:17:22 Paul
deviated a little bit over time.
00:17:24 Paul
And it kind of seems like if you allow one, you got to allow them all, which is good in the aspect that, religion can't be enforced on anyone or of religion.
00:17:35 Paul
Like a state religion.
00:17:36 Paul
Right.
00:17:38 Paul
But it also shouldn't be forbidden to even be discussed.
00:17:42 Paul
And, you know, obviously we use
00:17:44 Paul
say the Ten Commandments, they use that as a cornerstone of, how do we define right and wrong?
00:17:50 Kevin
How do we live in a Judeo-Christian society, right?
00:17:53 Kevin
So that's like, yes, we, if we don't, if we separate it to the degree that there is absolutely no connection between religion and the state, then where do you find your moral compass in which to set laws like thou shalt not steal and thou shalt not murder and don't covet thy neighbor's wife or his ****?
00:18:13 Kevin
You know, like
00:18:14 Kevin
you shouldn't take your neighbor's ****.
00:18:17 Kevin
Or his wife.
00:18:19 Kevin
and then it's like, if you were to throw that out, well, that's religion.
00:18:23 Kevin
So now we're throwing it out.
00:18:24 Kevin
Well, it's like, okay, so now murder is legal.
00:18:26 Kevin
You know what I mean?
00:18:27 Kevin
Like, and people aren't going to get behind that.
00:18:28 Kevin
So I do believe that there, to a degree, there is no, I mean, well, then it comes down to the word separation, right?
00:18:36 Kevin
So like, how separate, right?
00:18:41 Kevin
Like, if you
00:18:45 Kevin
There's degrees of separation, right?
00:18:47 Paul
So, and a lot of it comes down to sometimes just money.
00:18:49 Paul
It's like, obviously, the government doesn't have one set of religious, particularities, and they say, you can't, what's you would say, like, private schools?
00:18:59 Kevin
Right.
00:19:00 Paul
It's like, if the government said, okay, we can give, money to any Catholic private school,
00:19:10 Paul
that wouldn't be fair to any other ones.
00:19:11 Paul
So if they gave it to them, it should be okay for, if you go to, a Jewish school or a Muslim school or independent Christian school, I wouldn't have a problem with that.
00:19:25 Paul
I think that would be okay as long as everybody had their fair shake of it, as long as it wasn't like, something that was too radical on the side of, uprising against the government or something.
00:19:35 Kevin
Do you think churches should pay taxes?
00:19:40 Paul
Property, property taxes, property, property.
00:19:43 Kevin
Because they're not really like donations, I guess.
00:19:46 Kevin
I mean, I think they should abolish income tax in general, right?
00:19:49 Kevin
I think just income tax based on that, you know what I mean?
00:19:53 Kevin
I think our entire tax system needs to be overhauled, but.
00:19:56 Paul
I guess the only portion of where I think maybe they should be taxed is if it's towing the line of almost making a profit, like, say, if like there's like
00:20:10 Paul
You're talking.
00:20:11 Kevin
About like a bake sale.
00:20:12 Kevin
So like if a church is a bake sale, it's a donation, but if a church opens a bakery, it's a business.
00:20:16 Paul
Right.
00:20:17 Paul
Or if like say there's a hospital, you know, like we used to have a Catholic hospital.
00:20:22 Paul
We had the Sisters of Mercy.
00:20:24 Paul
Right.
00:20:25 Paul
You know, if you're, you know, doing it exclusively where it's all free or pretty much free,
00:20:31 Paul
all of a sudden, you become a multi-billion dollar hospital, like in, they give us the New York Presbyterian in New York City.
00:20:38 Paul
That's a pretty much for-profit organization now.
00:20:41 Paul
I mean, are they still exempt from paying taxes?
00:20:44 Paul
I don't know.
00:20:45 Paul
But, you know, they make up quite a bit of money because, you know, that's one of the premier hospitals in New York City.
00:20:51 Paul
is that still technically run by the church, the Presbyterian Church?
00:20:55 Paul
I know it's just a name, but I'm just saying, say it was, say it was run by, you know?
00:20:59 Kevin
I think they should charge everybody taxes across the board.
00:21:02 Kevin
I think that if you're a not-for-profit or you're a church or anything, I think that there's no reason why you can't just build into your, I say business model, but it's your plan, right?
00:21:16 Kevin
Like, if you have to, if
00:21:19 Kevin
If you're for the betterment of the congregation, you're collecting money from the coffers for insurance for your property and liability of the organization, right?
00:21:32 Kevin
Then why shouldn't you be collecting for?
00:21:35 Kevin
You know what I mean?
00:21:36 Kevin
You just build that into your plan.
00:21:38 Kevin
Like, okay, we have this much expenses.
00:21:40 Kevin
Like in your budget, in your budgeting, you say, okay, well, we also sit on this property and it's appraised for this.
00:21:45 Kevin
We should come up with this much in property tax.
00:21:48 Kevin
This way everyone's paying their fair share.
00:21:50 Kevin
And I get it.
00:21:51 Kevin
It's religion.
00:21:52 Kevin
Well,
00:21:53 Kevin
If you're a religion that a lot of people follow, if you're a religion that has its own building and is occupying a larger space in the world, it should pay for a larger share.
00:22:04 Kevin
If I own a bigger house, I should pay more money.
00:22:07 Kevin
That's typically how they do it anyways.
00:22:09 Kevin
So if you live in a big house and you have to pay more money, and then let's say your belief system falls off and the number of monies that you can collect,
00:22:18 Kevin
then eventually you just go back to being a Bible study, going from one parishioner's house to another and doing your...
00:22:24 Kevin
You know what I mean?
00:22:25 Kevin
It's one of those things.
00:22:26 Kevin
It's the ebb and flow.
00:22:27 Kevin
As a business starts to downsize, it has to cut costs.
00:22:30 Kevin
As it starts to grow, it has to pay increased costs, and I think that it should fall the same way.
00:22:34 Kevin
It's not a knock on religion.
00:22:36 Kevin
I just don't think that if there is a separation of church and state, I don't think setting churches aside and playing favorites or providing them more favoritism by not charging them property taxes
00:22:48 Kevin
but we'll still charge property taxes to the rich of the rich and the poor of the poor and everybody in between.
00:22:54 Kevin
But we're going to cut out for churches and people doing morally good things like not-for-profits would, like, you know, the coats for the kids and the, you know, toys for tots.
00:23:06 Kevin
You know, listen, we all pay it, you know.
00:23:07 Kevin
It's one of those things.
00:23:09 Kevin
Yeah.
00:23:09 Kevin
So, cool.
00:23:12 Kevin
Who read the, you read the last question?
00:23:13 Kevin
Yeah.
00:23:15 Kevin
It was my, I had to, oh yeah, okay.
00:23:16 Kevin
All right.
00:23:20 Kevin
MK Ultra.
00:23:22 Kevin
You know anything about MK Ultra?
00:23:24 Paul
Not really.
00:23:24 Kevin
MK Ultra was behind the Manson family murders.
00:23:28 Paul
That was like a CIA kind of thing.
00:23:31 Kevin
Yeah, So, I
00:23:47 Kevin
I'm going to take back my point because if you don't know what the, if you don't know the- Can.
00:23:53 Paul
You read it again.
00:23:54 Kevin
Yes.
00:23:55 Kevin
MK Ultra was behind the Manson family murders.
00:24:00 Kevin
There's a great book Joe Rogan put me on.
00:24:03 Kevin
I'm drawing a blank on what it was.
00:24:07 Kevin
I read it.
00:24:08 Kevin
I read it on Audible.
00:24:09 Kevin
I'll have to send it to you.
00:24:10 Kevin
I don't know.
00:24:10 Kevin
I have to put the link in the bio for all the people out there in TV land.
00:24:16 Kevin
They're all sitting there like listening to us discuss stuff and reading my shirt.
00:24:23 Kevin
It's my 25 cent because it was after Christmas two years ago.
00:24:27 Kevin
7-Eleven shirt.
00:24:29 Kevin
So.
00:24:30 Paul
I mean, since I don't, I'll just.
00:24:33 Kevin
No, you put your guess in there.
00:24:34 Paul
All right, I'm going to go now.
00:24:37 Kevin
And you would be incorrect.
00:24:39 Kevin
MK Ultra was a government experiment that was doing illicit like experiments with acid and hallucinogenic psychedelic drugs.
00:24:48 Kevin
And so it's my belief that yes, they were behind a lot of the behind the scenes stuffs of Charlie Manson in the Manson family murders.
00:24:59 Kevin
Charlie Manson was like released on
00:25:04 Kevin
on parole and then he met up with the same probation officer and psychiatrist that also had conversations with Jack Ruby and who'd also like discussed things with Oswald.
00:25:19 Kevin
It's really like it's all like interconnected in the 60s and it's like it all follows like
00:25:24 Kevin
just a lot of like J.
00:25:25 Kevin
Edgar Hoover, kind of just, it was a really like kind of shady time in American history.
00:25:30 Kevin
And there's a lot of stuff like, hey, man, the government screws up.
00:25:33 Kevin
But they spent a lot of time covering it.
00:25:35 Paul
Right.
00:25:35 Paul
And I'm sure they were doing experiments and, you know, trying to see what they could and couldn't control people to do.
00:25:39 Paul
But at the end of the day, I still think, you know, Manson himself was just, you know, absolutely under the influence of drugs and his own psychosis.
00:25:50 Paul
But what caused that?
00:25:51 Paul
What caused it?
00:25:53 Paul
I mean, at the end of the day, I think there's paranoia, but I mean, obviously...
00:25:56 Kevin
Caused by drugs provided by MK Ultra.
00:25:59 Paul
Right, but they didn't eventually go into those rooms themselves and influence, you know, the girls and the other guy, the text or whatever, to do it.
00:26:10 Paul
So I think, you know, he had a lot of influences.
00:26:12 Paul
I mean, he even wrote a Beach Boys song, so it's not like he was completely mad out of his mind at every point in his life.
00:26:19 Paul
It was...
00:26:20 Paul
Was it exclusively through that?
00:26:22 Paul
I don't know.
00:26:23 Paul
Interesting subject.
00:26:24 Paul
I'll have to look more into it.
00:26:24 Paul
And then we can play this game again.
00:26:26 Kevin
Yeah.
00:26:28 Kevin
It's negative 1 to 1, Paul.
00:26:30 Paul
Let's see.
00:26:32 Paul
The Nordic model of socialism has its benefits, all things considered.
00:26:38 Kevin
Do I think that Paul LeBlanc, sorry, Paul the good husband, thinks that the Nordic model of socialism
00:26:50 Kevin
Where's the Nordic model?
00:26:51 Kevin
Is it Denmark?
00:26:53 Paul
Yeah, like Denmark, Swedenland, Norway.
00:26:55 Kevin
Norway.
00:26:59 Kevin
Oh, Norway, yeah, the Nords.
00:27:02 Kevin
Do I think that Paul thinks that...
00:27:04 Paul
I guess Iceland would probably be linked into that too.
00:27:08 Kevin
That's the green one, right?
00:27:10 Paul
Yeah.
00:27:10 Kevin
Greenland's all I see and Iceland's all green.
00:27:13 Kevin
So do I think that you think that the Nordic model
00:27:17 Kevin
of socialism has benefits all things considered.
00:27:21 Kevin
I'm going to say that your thought process is no, Paul.
00:27:27 Kevin
Probably should have waited for you to answer.
00:27:29 Paul
I'll stick to, still stick to what my gut says.
00:27:36 Kevin
Do you follow a lot up in Norway?
00:27:38 Paul
I mean, I kind of get their mindset a little bit.
00:27:44 Paul
It's not 100% well known, but.
00:27:56 Paul
So they're asking if.
00:27:57 Kevin
Do you agree with their, do you think that it's, has its benefits, all things considered?
00:28:04 Kevin
So considering all things that you're aware of, the socialism.
00:28:09 Paul
Yeah, I'm going to go with you on no.
00:28:12 Kevin
That's right.
00:28:12 Paul
I mean, it has some benefits, but in the end, it's, I don't know, to me,
00:28:19 Paul
Making to try to make everybody fair and everybody is guaranteed anything, just usually.
00:28:25 Paul
falls apart and there's usually always the phantom poor and there's always the phantom rich that always seem to exist in a socialistic society.
00:28:34 Paul
Just like, I mean, I don't know if it's Sweden or Norway, they have natural resources out, you know, that are incredible.
00:28:44 Paul
And, you know, they do divvy up a lot of those resources to their people and allow them to have a very well, you know, great education system.
00:28:52 Paul
And, you know, it seems like
00:28:54 Paul
they have a pretty good safety net for people to retire on and stuff, which is great.
00:29:00 Paul
Problem being, where is it then when those resources run out?
00:29:04 Paul
Is people still expected to have those same kind of benefits?
00:29:07 Paul
And I just think that's not a healthy society when, the government dictates how your life is going to be.
00:29:15 Kevin
Yeah, because you take away a lot of freedom.
00:29:16 Kevin
A lot of freedom.
00:29:20 Kevin
All right, Paul.
00:29:21 Kevin
Score is 0 to 1.
00:29:22 Kevin
Nope.
00:29:23 Kevin
I'm 0.
00:29:25 Kevin
Child grooming is far more rampant in public schools than in the Catholic Church.
00:29:35 Kevin
Child grooming is far more rampant in the public schools than in the Catholic Church.
00:29:42 Paul
Did you make your pick?
00:29:49 Kevin
I did, Paul.
00:29:51 Kevin
You are correct, Paul.
00:29:55 Kevin
I don't know how much child grooming there is in the Catholic Church anymore.
00:29:59 Kevin
Like, I mean, if you were to go back to the scandals of the child sex scandals or whatever of what, the 90s?
00:30:05 Paul
Or more like 60s, 70s, 70s.
00:30:08 Kevin
Was that what it was too?
00:30:09 Kevin
Well, that's when it started, right?
00:30:11 Kevin
But did they, when did they start coming out?
00:30:12 Kevin
Was it?
00:30:13 Paul
Early 2000s as well.
00:30:14 Kevin
And it started like blowing it wide open.
00:30:16 Kevin
So, but I would say during that time period that the actual
00:30:21 Kevin
crime was being committed, I would say that if you called that child grooming, then yes, that's what it is.
00:30:27 Kevin
But it's like, to groom children in like following your religion, I don't know if that's considered grooming.
00:30:34 Paul
Or just, you know, that the priest was basically saying, hey, if I say it's okay, then it's okay.
00:30:39 Kevin
Right, yeah, that's where I would be on this.
00:30:41 Kevin
But if like the teacher tells you that it's okay to, you know, pushing their secular religion, right?
00:30:48 Kevin
Like,
00:30:50 Kevin
it's okay.
00:30:51 Kevin
Don't tell your parents.
00:30:52 Kevin
It's okay.
00:30:52 Kevin
Like what I say goes.
00:30:54 Paul
It's your choice.
00:30:55 Kevin
Yeah, exactly.
00:30:56 Kevin
So kind of steering them away from the norms, right?
00:30:58 Kevin
Because the norms they're supposed to be teaching are supposed to be English, math, science, technology, things like that, not, you know, reverse biology.
00:31:08 Kevin
So Paul is now at two points.
00:31:18 Kevin
There you are, Paul.
00:31:20 Kevin
Don't forget to have one of my wife's delicious breakfast sandwiches.
00:31:23 Paul
Oh, I've been nibbling already.
00:31:24 Kevin
Oh yeah.
00:31:26 Paul
Gay couples should be able to adapt.
00:31:35 Kevin
I'll wait for you to choose first, Paul, before I, because I keep ending up in this.
00:31:38 Kevin
Yeah.
00:31:38 Paul
All right, I'm going.
00:31:45 Kevin
To go to guess.
00:31:48 Kevin
You're not guessing for what I'm answering.
00:31:50 Paul
Yeah, I'm guessing what you're guessing, right?
00:31:51 Paul
Aren't I supposed to be guessing what you're?
00:31:52 Kevin
I'm supposed to guess what you're going to.
00:31:54 Paul
Oh, oh, oh, sorry.
00:31:58 Kevin
So you have to pick for yourself and then hide your answer from me.
00:32:01 Paul
Okay.
00:32:02 Kevin
But you were guessing for me, so.
00:32:03 Paul
I was.
00:32:20 Kevin
Let me know when you were ready, Paul.
00:32:22 Paul
Yeah.
00:32:36 Paul
I'll probably just stick to the same.
00:32:39 Kevin
Paul, you got to pick and then.
00:32:40 Kevin
I don't know.
00:32:41 Paul
Let's skip this question.
00:32:41 Paul
I don't know.
00:32:42 Paul
I'm just too confused because I don't know.
00:32:44 Paul
I put all my thought into what you were saying.
00:32:47 Paul
I don't know.
00:32:48 Paul
Can we skip this question?
00:32:51 Kevin
Sure.
00:32:51 Paul
All right.
00:32:52 Kevin
Do you want to discuss it, Paul?
00:32:54 Paul
Go ahead.
00:32:55 Kevin
You don't want to.
00:32:59 Kevin
So I would have gotten my point, Paul.
00:33:01 Kevin
Well, I would have probably, I would have guessed and I would have been opposite of you.
00:33:07 Kevin
So I've been, this has been coming up quite often in my life and what have you, but I still think that kids need a two-parent household.
00:33:22 Kevin
which is, hey, gay couples, right?
00:33:24 Kevin
But it also, kids need biologically mothers and fathers, right?
00:33:28 Kevin
So like, unless the child has a father role or a mother role, you're going to have this, something you're like depriving a kid of vitamin D, right?
00:33:38 Kevin
Like it's something that you need, you might get neglected on here or there.
00:33:44 Kevin
If you have a little bit, you'll survive, right?
00:33:46 Kevin
Like you won't die with, you know,
00:33:53 Kevin
you're not going to die, but you're not going to live the most fruitful of outcomes statistically based, right?
00:34:01 Kevin
So while there are kids out there who are raised with zero parents or just one, this is definitely a better alternative.
00:34:10 Kevin
I guess it all depends on values too.
00:34:12 Kevin
So like, but so you can't like case-by-case basis, but do you block a whole group?
00:34:20 Kevin
a whole group.
00:34:21 Kevin
Like, are we making law now?
00:34:23 Kevin
I mean, I guess I don't know where we're going with this.
00:34:27 Paul
Yeah, I mean, overall, I mean, I guess that's, see, that's why I got confused, because, I guess in the end, if obviously it's a lot of, decisions that are made by other people, not just the people that are hoping to adopt, and, obviously they're looking for the best outcome for that child if, two people can prove that,
00:34:49 Paul
we're a good, stable household, and we're respected community members.
00:34:55 Paul
that's why I guess I said yes, just because I meant to say.
00:34:59 Kevin
Right, because I mean, if you're the adoption agency person, like all these kids coming from what, right?
00:35:06 Kevin
Why are they being adopted?
00:35:08 Kevin
But then at the other side of the coin, and then I could also see where straight couples would have the same issue.
00:35:12 Kevin
I just think that you would have an extra burden to jump through, logical statistics and say, hey,
00:35:19 Kevin
these are like biological requirements.
00:35:23 Kevin
Like the issue, one of the biggest issues in like the black community is like fatherless homes.
00:35:30 Kevin
Well, how do you, and then they do a ton of research to show like, well, it's good for both boys and girls to have a father in the home.
00:35:38 Kevin
And the good thing about having a father in the home is it shows boys what to look
00:35:43 Kevin
someone to look up to and to be like, right?
00:35:46 Kevin
And then, or to not be, right?
00:35:49 Kevin
if you, even if you have an abusive father in the home, at least what not to do, right?
00:35:54 Kevin
And it can grow you in the same strength.
00:35:59 Kevin
but then having an absent father and having no moral compass in which to follow what a man should be.
00:36:04 Kevin
And then for women, it shows them, or little girls, it shows them what to look for in a man as they grow older or what not to look for, because maybe, again, you have an abusive father.
00:36:15 Kevin
And so there is that aspect.
00:36:18 Kevin
So you're adding another obstacle in the gay couples thing.
00:36:23 Kevin
So whether it's two women or two men, they're going to have to overcome that obstacle by having
00:36:31 Kevin
two gay men will have probably some female friends.
00:36:33 Kevin
They're going to have to kind of lean on them because it takes a village to raise a child.
00:36:37 Kevin
And so they're going to have to do more village raising than just what they can do in their two-parent household than you'd normally get.
00:36:44 Kevin
And the same with two women.
00:36:45 Kevin
You'd have to have a few men in your life that this kid can look up to just for that.
00:36:52 Kevin
And so you have to be kind of a more well-rounded individual.
00:36:55 Kevin
You have a bigger obstacle.
00:36:58 Kevin
So I think that, I don't, well, so I guess you've changed my mind, Paul.
00:37:02 Kevin
I was going to say, should they be allowed to adopt?
00:37:05 Kevin
I was going to say no, but I guess that's, everybody wants hard and fast rules in this world, and I don't think every situation merits a nope, sorry, instant no, instant yes.
00:37:16 Paul
Yeah, I guess, you know, at the end of the day, it's so many hoops to just try to adopt somebody that you have to be pretty committed.
00:37:22 Paul
to want to do this.
00:37:23 Paul
And so if you're both on the same page about it and you're committed to doing it, seems like those might be people that would be good candidates, whereas if you just adopted people just because you were a foster child or...
00:37:37 Paul
you needed a little extra money and decided, we could foster some people for a while.
00:37:41 Paul
That doesn't really seem to help as well as if you had somebody that was committed and said, we're willing to put thousands of dollars on the line because this is important to us to create a family.
00:37:50 Paul
I see that's why they should be allowed rather than denied.
00:37:55 Kevin
Sure, because they're putting their money where their mouth is, and that usually means more steak, right?
00:37:59 Kevin
But at the same time, I also think
00:38:02 Kevin
that, as long as they're also being like, there's not just a system that's like fake educating people, right?
00:38:08 Kevin
Like where it's like, oh, well, we're going to claim all these biological realities that Kevin just discussed in the previous part of this conversation and say, well, yeah, but that's ******** that I don't believe.
00:38:21 Kevin
It's like we get, but it's biological fact and statistics that are base all of that in.
00:38:28 Kevin
And so
00:38:30 Kevin
As long as people aren't being pushed by a system that says like, no, that's, it's okay to not think that way.
00:38:35 Kevin
And it's like, okay, well, then you're just gonna, I mean, I guess having a two-parent household is still better than a zero.
00:38:41 Kevin
Right.
00:38:42 Kevin
You know, maybe a one, you know what I mean?
00:38:45 Kevin
Like, is it borderline with a one-parent household?
00:38:48 Paul
So say you're the king and you decree that it's okay to have, you know, gay couples adopt
00:38:57 Paul
But most of the children come from, say, a country, say, in the Middle East, that frowns upon gay marriage, and they say, well, we're not going to give you any children from our country because of our beliefs.
00:39:10 Paul
What would you do?
00:39:11 Paul
I mean, would you just say, okay, fine, fine somewhere else?
00:39:15 Paul
Or would you fight for those couples as a king?
00:39:19 Paul
You know, it's just in a hypothetical.
00:39:21 Kevin
I was just saying in a hypothetical like that, I would worry, you're like, what was that movie with Denzel Washington?
00:39:27 Kevin
they went overseas to in Afghanistan or whatever looking for the head terrorist guy.
00:39:38 Kevin
And he raised all of his kids to be anti-American.
00:39:42 Kevin
So if you're going to go to a country like that, that's going to attack your people regardless, like how do you know you're not also adopting a little sleeper cell?
00:39:49 Kevin
You know what I mean?
00:39:50 Kevin
Like, so like,
00:39:52 Kevin
People get their ideas ingrained in them at a young age, or their inability to get over something at a young age.
00:40:01 Kevin
So like, I don't know if I would pursue that if I were king.
00:40:06 Kevin
Like, I think that would end up terribly for the people under my, in my court to, like, I know you really want this kid, but this kid's 11 and he ******* hates your guts.
00:40:20 Kevin
He's going, you know what I mean?
00:40:22 Kevin
Like now is it newborn?
00:40:23 Kevin
Is it, we fighting for a whole bunch of like, kids in the womb that, they're just listening to Al Jazeera?
00:40:30 Kevin
You know what I mean?
00:40:31 Kevin
Like through, in the background instead of Mozart?
00:40:34 Kevin
Like, I don't know.
00:40:35 Kevin
Maybe not.
00:40:36 Paul
It's complicated.
00:40:36 Kevin
It is.
00:40:37 Kevin
It is complicated.
00:40:38 Kevin
So since you skipped that question, you read the question or did I?
00:40:43 Paul
Chat, do you remember?
00:40:44 Paul
I.
00:40:47 Kevin
Think you read the question, right?
00:40:50 Paul
And then I tried to guess, and I was totally...
00:40:53 Kevin
You guessed.
00:40:53 Paul
Yeah, and I jacked it up, and then I did.
00:40:55 Kevin
So I'm supposed to guess how you would pick, Paul?
00:40:58 Paul
Okay, and you get at least easy ones.
00:41:00 Kevin
You get all the easy ones.
00:41:01 Kevin
Hip-hop, hip-hop anonymous.
00:41:02 Paul
All right, most gamblers who quit were just about to hit it big.
00:41:10 Kevin
So this is to you.
00:41:13 Kevin
have to decide how you would answer yes or no to that question, not tell me.
00:41:18 Kevin
And then once you've picked your answer on your pod without me seeing it, I will place my polar seltzer can.
00:41:33 Paul
Okay.
00:41:41 Kevin
One and a, probably going to end up doing two more.
00:41:43 Kevin
You got it, Paul.
00:41:44 Paul
I got it.
00:41:45 Kevin
Okay.
00:41:47 Kevin
Most gamblers who quit, we're just about to hit it big.
00:41:58 Kevin
You'd be correct.
00:41:59 Kevin
Yes.
00:42:00 Kevin
Catching back up, Paul.
00:42:03 Kevin
Why do you believe that, Paul?
00:42:04 Paul
Because it'll never be enough.
00:42:05 Paul
Even if they hit it, they'll still keep playing.
00:42:07 Kevin
Chasing the dragon.
00:42:08 Paul
Yep.
00:42:08 Kevin
So that's...
00:42:11 Kevin
Do I get the easy ones?
00:42:12 Paul
Yeah, I think so.
00:42:13 Paul
Sheesh.
00:42:13 Kevin
Well, that was easy for you to answer.
00:42:15 Kevin
It wasn't easy for me to guess how you would answer.
00:42:17 Paul
Yeah, but then, you know, I'm like going through like 8 layers of like morality on my questions and you're like, oh.
00:42:24 Kevin
Gambling.
00:42:25 Kevin
Hi.
00:42:27 Kevin
Well, Gambling's not hard for you, Paul.
00:42:31 Kevin
Antifa militants are trust fund kids with too much time on their hands.
00:42:37 Paul
You got it in your head.
00:43:00 Kevin
Okay.
00:43:00 Paul
Yes.
00:43:02 Kevin
You were incorrect, Paul.
00:43:05 Kevin
So the reason
00:43:11 Kevin
that I don't think that they are trust fund kids with too much time on their hands.
00:43:17 Kevin
I do think that they are kids, and I do think they have too much time on their hands, and I think they're malinformed.
00:43:24 Kevin
I don't think that they're trust fund kids.
00:43:26 Kevin
I think they are kids.
00:43:27 Kevin
I don't think they are trust fund kids, and that one section threw the question to a no for me.
00:43:32 Kevin
I don't think that a lot of them, I'm sure there are some.
00:43:35 Paul
But I don't think, I guess I kind of overlooked the trust fund part, but read into the question all the way for the other parts.
00:43:41 Kevin
Yes, I think that doesn't.
00:43:43 Paul
Have to mean they'd be wealthy, it's just a matter of more entitlement.
00:43:50 Kevin
Right, There's kids that were well-to-do, but I don't know.
00:43:53 Kevin
Trust fund?
00:43:54 Kevin
I don't know.
00:43:54 Kevin
When I think trust fund, I think of like.
00:43:55 Kevin
That's a very small percentage.
00:43:57 Kevin
Correct.
00:43:58 Kevin
That's why I kind of, I think that the question was more exaggerative than anything else.
00:44:02 Kevin
So, Paul, we are tied.
00:44:04 Kevin
We're going to do 2, we're going to do one question each, and then we're going to call the yes or no game.
00:44:13 Kevin
So this is, we are at a tie.
00:44:16 Kevin
I think we've done a fair number of questions evenly.
00:44:18 Paul
Yeah, if we, don't do well with the game, at least it brings up interesting thoughts.
00:44:23 Kevin
Interesting topics.
00:44:23 Kevin
We also have, we have an entire stack here, Paul.
00:44:26 Kevin
This is like a whole season of the show.
00:44:29 Paul
That's crazy.
00:44:30 Kevin
Yeah.
00:44:30 Kevin
And plus, I have the two expansion packs.
00:44:32 Kevin
No, I was just laughing at the question.
00:44:38 Paul
Lil Wayne's skateboarding is cultural appropriation.
00:44:41 Paul
What?
00:44:45 Kevin
So you need to know how you're going to answer that.
00:44:47 Kevin
Do you think, Little Wayne, skateboarding is cultural appropriations?
00:44:54 Paul
All right, I got it.
00:44:59 Kevin
All right.
00:44:59 Paul
Yeah, this is like, no.
00:45:02 Paul
He can just do whatever he wants.
00:45:04 Paul
He's Little Wayne.
00:45:05 Paul
He's fun and it's not like he has to do it because he's of any kind of race or anything.
00:45:10 Kevin
I think cultural appropriations is ********.
00:45:12 Kevin
So if I had that question, it would also be a no Paul.
00:45:14 Paul
Yeah.
00:45:19 Kevin
All white people have white privilege.
00:45:36 Kevin
You are correct, Paul.
00:45:39 Kevin
Why do you think that I would select no?
00:45:48 Paul
I think you see everybody that's born has kind of a
00:45:53 Paul
level playing field in the United States.
00:45:55 Paul
That's kind of how the Constitution's set up.
00:45:58 Paul
Obviously, there's circumstances that maybe can nudge you one way or another, but for the vast majority of people, as long as you're willing to put into work, you can make yourself successful.
00:46:10 Paul
Whereas, you know, maybe in another country with a caste system or if you're born into slavery, say, then, you know, obviously that could be a huge detriment.
00:46:18 Paul
But here in the United States, I would say
00:46:22 Paul
Right.
00:46:23 Kevin
I don't believe that any white people have white privilege because also you go down the rabbit hole too of now we're blaming people by race.
00:46:32 Kevin
And like you said, I think that people, if they just work hard and even if, like you said, if they're if they're if they're raised in, a single parent household, like, yeah, is life tougher for them?
00:46:45 Kevin
Yeah, but is that privilege?
00:46:49 Kevin
Like,
00:46:50 Kevin
Because there's, if you're a pessimist, you'd say, well, that's not a privilege, that's a detriment.
00:46:56 Kevin
It's like, okay, well, what about everything else that's going on in your life that you could...
00:47:00 Kevin
And some people take that lack of privilege because, listen, white or black or purple, you know what I mean?
00:47:11 Kevin
Like, you...
00:47:17 Kevin
It's...
00:47:18 Kevin
It is a lack of, it is a hindrance to be born in a single parent household.
00:47:29 Kevin
You know what I mean?
00:47:29 Kevin
To have, but.
00:47:30 Paul
That could be a problem for a black or white.
00:47:33 Kevin
Exactly.
00:47:34 Kevin
It's not, it's not race-based.
00:47:35 Kevin
But then the other thing about it is that it's also not holding, it's not holding you back.
00:47:40 Kevin
If you look at some of the most successful people on the planet, they had the most horrendous childhoods.
00:47:46 Kevin
They were raised in single-parent households.
00:47:48 Kevin
They watched their mother do this or, had to raise them from nothing.
00:47:52 Kevin
Look at David Goggins, right?
00:47:53 Kevin
Like, where was, where was, where was Trunis?
00:47:57 Kevin
You know what I mean?
00:47:57 Kevin
Like, where's, he was out beating his mom, you know what I mean?
00:48:02 Kevin
Or he's out at the club, right?
00:48:03 Kevin
That was, that was, it's, and then you look at those, the other people too, it's like, hey, sometimes people weren't,
00:48:12 Kevin
born into parent or were born into two-parent households and they lost a father in war, right?
00:48:16 Kevin
Like, and those people still ended up being, being elevated by that.
00:48:23 Kevin
So I don't, think that, yeah, I think we've, I think we kind of ******* beat that one to death.
00:48:29 Paul
Yeah, you could go really deep if you really wanted you and be like, well, I guess up into a certain point, there was a disadvantage.
00:48:35 Kevin
We're tied to good, Paul, so I'm going to pick, we're going to do this back and forth until the next person who.
00:48:45 Paul
Yeah, okay.
00:48:46 Paul
I have watched a romantic comedy alone.
00:48:50 Kevin
You want to know how I would answer this question?
00:48:52 Kevin
Yeah.
00:48:57 Paul
Just because I know you, I would say yes.
00:48:59 Kevin
You suck, Paul.
00:49:02 Kevin
Dude, I used to love watching Harry Met Sally.
00:49:05 Kevin
Like,
00:49:08 Kevin
I was a sad soul.
00:49:10 Kevin
Oh, I just gave myself a point for that one.
00:49:11 Kevin
So 3 to Paul, 2 to Kevin.
00:49:15 Kevin
All right, I'm just going to go back and forth, right, until somebody loses.
00:49:20 Kevin
Next person who loses, right?
00:49:21 Kevin
Or do you want to count that?
00:49:24 Paul
No, that's fine.
00:49:24 Paul
Keep going.
00:49:27 Kevin
All right, Paul.
00:49:28 Kevin
Western Civ should be a mandated course for all schools that receive public funding.
00:49:56 Kevin
It was nice doing it for you, Paul.
00:49:59 Paul
So you're guessing for me.
00:50:01 Kevin
I'm get you're guessing for me.
00:50:02 Paul
Oh, okay.
00:50:03 Kevin
Wait a minute.
00:50:03 Paul
Because I just did one for you and I guessed it, right?
00:50:06 Paul
So now you have to guess from me here.
00:50:12 Paul
Because I just guessed for you and that was correct about the romance.
00:50:16 Kevin
You're right.
00:50:18 Kevin
You're right.
00:50:22 Kevin
Sorry.
00:50:23 Paul
It's okay.
00:50:23 Paul
Like I said, it gets a little confusing.
00:50:27 Kevin
I'm sure it's easy right now.
00:50:29 Kevin
Let me know when you got your answer.
00:50:30 Paul
I got it.
00:50:33 Kevin
I didn't know it wasn't a thing.
00:50:35 Kevin
There's schools that are not teaching Western Civ.
00:50:37 Paul
Evidently.
00:50:40 Paul
Yeah, I mean, it's one of the most influential cultures ever, you know.
00:50:43 Paul
I mean, I would almost consider, you know,
00:50:47 Paul
Italy or, Rome or Greece, part of Western Civilization?
00:50:51 Kevin
I'll let you read that one then.
00:50:53 Paul
Okay.
00:50:56 Paul
The culture war is more important than the national debt.
00:51:09 Kevin
Culture war.
00:51:12 Paul
So I'm guessing for you.
00:51:15 Kevin
You're going to have probably an easy time.
00:51:17 Paul
Yeah.
00:51:23 Paul
Really.
00:51:25 Kevin
The culture war is more important than the natural debt.
00:51:29 Paul
Yeah.
00:51:33 Paul
because if you don't have a culture that everybody can live by, what's the point of having no money or money in general?
00:51:42 Paul
Every country in the world has debt.
00:51:44 Kevin
I was under the impression, so this is how I took the question, which is also part of the game.
00:51:48 Paul
Right.
00:51:49 Kevin
I took the question as,
00:51:53 Kevin
The culture war.
00:51:57 Kevin
How did I initially take this?
00:52:02 Kevin
I took this as the culture war, like fighting for the culture, like virtue signaling, all of that **** all the stuff that's in the culture war.
00:52:10 Paul
I'm making it sound woke, whereas you know you could have the other side.
00:52:14 Kevin
You're saying it is a defense of our culture and our society.
00:52:17 Kevin
I took it as a all the ******** that other people are
00:52:22 Kevin
So I would call it.
00:52:24 Paul
More of a woke culture than the culture war, because I guess you could have.
00:52:29 Kevin
I took it as like a, I don't know if I'd answer it.
00:52:37 Paul
I'll call you in a second, Will.
00:52:39 Kevin
You're not live, so, but continue.
00:52:43 Kevin
So yeah, I took it as a, as the culture.
00:52:47 Kevin
against, just against most of our norms, is more important, is just all the nonsense that's in our culture now, like the culture war.
00:53:02 Kevin
I don't know, I just, jingling white privilege, DEI, all that nonsense, is all of it more important than our national debt?
00:53:10 Kevin
No, and that's kind of how I took it.
00:53:13 Paul
And that's why I was kind of saying, yes, it's not that important.
00:53:16 Paul
Culture war is more important than the national debt.
00:53:18 Paul
Is that what you're saying?
00:53:19 Paul
Too or no?
00:53:20 Kevin
I was saying that the culture war was not as important as the national debt because I disregarded all the ********.
00:53:27 Kevin
I was not taking it from a self-defense standpoint.
00:53:30 Kevin
Like a, because I was like, well, no, if you just leave our culture alone, our national debt is more important.
00:53:35 Paul
You know what, I agree.
00:53:35 Paul
You know, obviously you can't go broke and borrow tons of money.
00:53:38 Kevin
Right, which we were doing by sending Sesame Street, you know.
00:53:42 Kevin
Gay Sesame Street to Iraq.
00:53:51 Kevin
So we will neutralize that question, Paul.
00:53:55 Paul
Michael knows you kind of need to elaborate a little bit more.
00:53:57 Kevin
No, it's Ben Davies.
00:53:59 Kevin
It's his producer.
00:54:01 Kevin
Homework is tenacious.
00:54:08 Kevin
Oh, I'm sorry, tenacious.
00:54:10 Paul
Tedious.
00:54:11 Kevin
There you go.
00:54:12 Kevin
Homework is tedious, busy work, and should be banned from schools.
00:54:19 Kevin
How would Paul LeBlanc answer that question?
00:54:22 Kevin
So Paul needs to pick an answer.
00:54:27 Paul
Okay.
00:54:33 Kevin
Well, there it is.
00:54:35 Kevin
There's the game, Paul.
00:54:36 Kevin
Explain to me before we close up shop.
00:54:40 Paul
So you're saying homework is tedious, busy work, and should be banned?
00:54:44 Kevin
You're saying no?
00:54:45 Paul
Yeah, I'm saying no, I shouldn't be banned.
00:54:48 Kevin
Tedious busy work or homework.
00:54:50 Paul
Yeah, homework should not be banned, obviously.
00:54:53 Kevin
I don't think the kids do it.
00:54:54 Kevin
I don't think the teachers put forth the effort into a lot of homework.
00:54:57 Kevin
I'm sure there are teachers out there that do, but I feel like a lot of the homework.
00:55:00 Kevin
But then again, the kids don't get the homework we got.
00:55:02 Kevin
My kids don't have half the homework, even at the higher ages.
00:55:04 Paul
Right, because, you know, as I remember my homework, it was just the repetition of what you learned that day.
00:55:09 Kevin
My homework was all tedious busy work.
00:55:11 Paul
Really.
00:55:11 Kevin
Yeah.
00:55:12 Paul
No.
00:55:12 Paul
Mine was, a lot of it just was for, you know, repetition and just basically reviewing what you had done earlier in the day to retain it and then you could go the next day.
00:55:23 Paul
I don't know if that's studying for the test too much, but that's kind of how I think, you know.
00:55:28 Kevin
Oh, Paul the good husband doing his good homework.
00:55:33 Paul
No, I mean,
00:55:36 Paul
It basically sets you up for life later on because you can't always just go home and just forget everything that you just did at work that day and just be like, oh yeah, I forgot all about what I had set up for the next day for building the roof, Right.
00:55:48 Paul
You know what I mean?
00:55:50 Paul
It's not like, you know, you got to put effort in to whatever you do rather than just saying, oh, this is hard for your brain.
00:55:59 Paul
Sorry, you don't have to do it anymore.
00:56:01 Paul
You know, because what are you teaching your kids?
00:56:03 Paul
I don't know.
00:56:05 Kevin
It was a good game, Paul.
00:56:06 Paul
It was good.
00:56:08 Paul
Always a pleasure.
00:56:09 Kevin
Always a pleasure.
00:56:11 Kevin
Let's see.
00:56:14 Kevin
Man, we're under an hour.
00:56:15 Kevin
Here we go.
00:56:19 Kevin
All right, gang.
00:56:19 Kevin
Well, I hope you did enjoy watching me and Paul the good husband play the yes or no game.
00:56:27 Kevin
opening up a lot of dialogue, a lot of conversation.
00:56:30 Kevin
I know it was a dialogue between friends, but you know, dialogue is dialogue, man.
00:56:33 Kevin
And we will catch you guys next time on Life 22.
00:56:37 Kevin
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