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I love the chase and the hunt and
I set the pace when I'm running.
I always take what I want and I
always give it one hundred.
Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
Play the game like it's nothing.
I'm always thankful for something.
Don't take for granted, stay humble.
Now wake up!
It's time to look at the enemy.
Look in the mirror if he is no
friend to me.
It's not working out,
maybe it's the chemistry.
It's time to break up.
what is going on everybody it's lunchtime
with the clydesdale hopefully i can make
it through today's show uh i am feeling
pretty good today yesterday was a
completely different story um so yeah
let's start with that yesterday i i went
on to the hospital to have a lung
biopsy done and um
What got there?
Gosh, it was a snowstorm.
We had to go up through I it's
about an hour away to go do this.
But I found like the best doctors for
me are up at this other hospital.
So um,
yeah so i went up and had that
done there uh after driving on some rough
roads uh got in got some stuff uh
got some stuff done uh they put me
under they intubated me i'm that's the
part i'm worried about for today's show is
my throat is still pretty scratchy um from
where the breathing tube was put down
but that's how they accessed my lungs with
the cameras and the tools to take three
different tissue samples.
And it was to confirm whether I have
sarcoidosis or possibly a lung infection
or a fungus growing inside the lung.
And
And so that happened yesterday.
They sent off those tissue samples to the
lab,
but initial thoughts by the doctor who did
the procedure was that the lymph node
tissue was granular around it where the
masses are,
and that actually
leads him to believe that it is
sarcoidosis.
I have some follow-ups coming up and so
hopefully we'll figure that out,
figure out a treatment plan.
If it's sarcoidosis,
it's very treatable and it is
uh hopefully something that we can get
through and get moved on probably not in
time to like do super well in this
year's open but i'm gonna do it i'm
gonna try it i'm gonna figure something
out and at least put in a score
every week of some sort some way somehow
uh just because i want to support this
community
uh but overall yesterday was rough i was
hurting so bad my back and my stomach
were hurting a lot my abs and they
say that's normal when people when they're
working in your lungs um so that was
rough i was coughing up a lot of
blood last night um that was rough and
my throat really hurt it was the first
time ever that a doctor prescribed me eat
ice cream eat as much as you can
um
Because nobody ever tells me that.
So I did have some ice cream last
night.
It did feel so,
so good on my throat.
So yeah, that was good.
I drank a ton of fluids yesterday.
A ton of fluids.
Today, my back feels a little bit better.
My stomach, my abs are still really...
sore I feel like I've done I did
some GHD sit-ups uh but other than that
I think I'm starting to feel a lot
better today the uh anesthetic is wearing
off I'm just hoping that my throat holds
up for the whole show today um but
other than that all doing well thank you
everybody for the thoughts and prayers
that meant a lot to me you guys
are the best um
yeah everything everything is feeling much
better today so uh just hoping to get
through everything um lito eight months
eight months uh a member of this channel
thank you so much for your support
You guys don't know how much that little
like three ninety nine or six ninety nine,
whatever level you're at,
what that means to the show.
It pays for the platforms that we get
to put the show on every day,
every Sunday night.
And so it just means a ton.
And to have a supporter like Lito and
she's just a wonderful human being as well
is awesome.
And another wonderful human being is
Kenneth DeLapp.
a member for twenty one months.
You guys are OGs.
Thank you so much for I mean, gosh,
Kenneth, twenty one months.
You're coming up on two years, man.
Two years.
Amazing.
You guys are the best.
It really does.
I wish I could tell you how much
you guys mean to me, because without you,
we couldn't do this show every single day.
We just couldn't.
Uh, so yeah.
Uh, Corey says, uh,
turns out Lito is all right in his
book.
Yeah.
Corey's on my, uh, my list today, man.
I was hoping he'd hop in today because
I didn't know how much talking I'd be
able to do, but there's lots,
lots to talk about.
Um, I just hope my,
my throat can hold up for everything and
talk about OG OG Corey Leonard,
a member for three freaking years.
Corey has been a member of this show.
Um,
KDL wins podcast listener of the
millennium.
That dude is everywhere in every show.
It is crazy.
So, yeah.
So, I don't know.
Everyone trying out to eat.
Isn't that what CrossFit's all about,
Jody?
And we're all trying to get a better
time.
We're all trying to get a better score
on the whiteboard.
That's what it's all about.
That's what it's all about.
Trish, your presence is enough.
Your presence is enough.
Don't get that checkbook out.
We don't need you to worry about the
security of sending a check.
We're good.
Your presence is plenty.
Not only that,
but Kenneth is a genuinely good dude.
He is a great dude.
Like, for a minute,
I did a Bible show,
and Kenneth was so much help.
Like, that man helped drive that show.
I wish I could have figured out how
to make that work for a longer period
of time.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
do you see how long you've been a
member there's a button when you hit like
anniversaries larry that allows you to
post like uh paid they they consider it
like a paid chat even though it's not
paid but you get like one free one
every month when you're a member uh to
send one and it shows how many months
you've been uh so yeah i'd i'd have
to go back and look
Denise, fifteen opens.
She is tired.
Of course she is.
Kenneth says he's just a guy.
Trish, thank you.
Glad to be here and hope you feel
better soon.
Prayers that biopsy shows easily
treatable.
Yeah, me too.
uh jake with a poste fromage i don't
have french i'm not good with french um
but yeah and there larry young got it
larry young member for eight months look
at that big supporter yeah mark says hit
the dollar sign it'll be at the bottom
i think for free
We got Helson caught it live.
It's been a while.
Glad you're here, Helson.
You are an awesome commenter and
contributor to the show.
And thank you so much, Trish,
for the ice cream fund.
That means a lot.
After the show, I might need some more.
Might, yeah.
And I've been working on my diet so
hard.
But man,
that ice cream was like freaking heaven
last night.
I just got to tell you.
All right,
so what are we going to talk about?
If you saw the thumbnail,
it was the time I met Pat Vellner
for the first time.
And I took a selfie with him.
And I made that the thumbnail today.
I cartooned it up.
But he made an announcement over the
weekend.
And if this is the picture that makes
me smile the most...
And that is Brent Fikowski actually put
out a tribute to Pat going into his
final season.
If you did not see the all-in movies
back in the day,
they are so worth the watch.
There is a whole scene with Pat and
Brent frolicking in the water,
trying to get better at swimming.
And...
just made me smile everybody's seen the
pat post he's re he is doing one
final season of competition including the
wfp rogue um maybe wadapalooza and he is
definitely doing the game season one last
time through so uh
I'm glad that he's coming back to the
CrossFit Games before he retires.
I think that's a cool thing.
I'm glad he's doing it.
And I can't wait to see him back
out on the floor.
One of my favorite memories of Pat is
after the sled drag in the twenty three
semifinals.
He was so pissed at the sled drag
and Jamie chased him down the road to
get an interview with him.
And it got shared on a lot of
podcasts.
And I'm so,
so stoked that we got that.
But Pat is really fun.
I've
I've had some weird experiences with Pat
where his wife lost her car keys,
and Amy and Charlie and I were at
the athlete area of the games,
and Amy ended up finding Pat's keys,
Pat's wife's keys,
and able to return them to him.
So I've had some good memories with Pat.
I'm glad he's coming back for one last
season.
I think it's something we all need.
So...
And Corey has jumped in the chat.
There we go.
Sorry I'm late.
Work, as it turns out, is a thing.
Yeah,
I've been in so many meetings today
because I missed yesterday.
Uh, Wayne short,
you could tell all the boys interrupted,
truly looked up to Pat as a role
model.
I haven't got,
I've been trying to catch up on all
the drama in the CrossFit media.
So I, uh,
didn't get to see boys interrupted last
night,
but I will make sure to go back
and check that out.
Cowboy.
Uh, train all of says cowboy.
Yeehaw.
Uh, Charlie versus Corey, twenty,
twenty six.
Bring it back.
listen i know the commitment my boy the
cowboy has put in this season and i
have known charlie for a long time i
i'm i'm a i'm a corey supporter man
cowboy all the way i love charlie i'm
gonna leave it at that
Charlie is one of the most fun people
to hang out with ever.
If you ever see Charlie at an event,
go hang out with him.
You will have a freaking blast.
And if Corey and Charlie got together,
I don't know if the world could take
that.
From a fun hanging out standpoint,
I'm not sure.
But on the competition floor,
my boy Corey has got it hands down.
Again, I love Charlie.
I'm going to leave it at that.
Corey, the gator hunter.
Never actually been alligator hunting.
I've been crawfishing several times,
but not so much alligator hunting.
I like eating alligator.
I like cooking alligator.
Yeah, I love eating alligator.
It's so good.
Gator gumbo may be top three in my
all-time list.
I just lightly breaded and fried.
Like it that way too?
So good.
I was in Savannah, Georgia,
and they had gator gumbo.
I had it every single day for lunch.
In Savannah of all places.
Okay.
I know.
It was weird.
i mean there's alligators everywhere dude
not so much up where you are because
they don't like coal but as soon as
you get somewhere where it gets actual hot
in the summertime and there's enough water
swamp yeah true story when i first moved
to columbus my next door neighbor had a
pet cater yeah there you go yeah not
a fan when i had a newborn baby
i'd imagine not but you know hey bro
people just like things
My neighbor was not of the ilk to
be responsible enough to have a baby gator
in the house.
I'll leave it at that.
I know a lot of people that are
not of the ilk to have any sort
of pet, much less a baby alligator.
So I'm with you on that one.
I want to address this right quick.
Hold on.
Gators can make their way up the Ohio
River when it gets warm enough?
that's a big river they don't eat when
it's cold which sounds ridiculous but like
they will basically go into almost a
hibernation phase whenever they get
whenever it gets too cold outside um their
bodies just won't digest the food uh when
it's when it's too cold they will go
very very still and they will go very
very like they'll go deep and just kind
of hang out come up for every now
and again but when it's hot
Or even just warm.
Yeah, they move a whole lot.
Or they can move a whole lot,
I should say.
And they eat, bro.
Jeremy does that too.
He doesn't eat when it gets cold.
Oh,
I thought he makes his way up the
Ohio River when it gets warm enough.
He's in Wisconsin.
He'd have to come down the Mississippi.
Yeah.
Across to the, yeah.
All right, a hundred percent.
Uh, no, what I wanted to,
what Chad had said up there,
where is it at?
Yes.
That's an excellent question.
Why is monster games this same weekend as
the games?
I don't know.
That's a fantastic question.
We did, uh, and by we,
I mean my, my buddy, uh,
Gareth emailed Mr. Ansley, Mr.
Jason Ansley and said that, Hey man,
if we qualify for monster games,
pay our registration fee and then make the
games, like, can we get a refund?
And he said, yes,
we will refund you your money because
Jason Ansley is a good dude.
High fives all around.
Um,
looks like everybody's trying to weigh a
two hundred, uh, Jeremy two twenty.
Uh, Kenneth is trying to get there.
I'm trying to get there, too,
on the other direction.
Yeah.
I'm at one, dude,
I've been trying to get as lean as
humanly possible.
I am still hovering at one-eighty-five,
one-eighty-six, but feeling pretty good,
feeling pretty strong.
Yeah, this week, this weekend,
I started feeling a lot better.
I'm really trying to get down and it's
working.
And the ice cream last night probably
didn't help.
But you got to do what you got
to do to get through the medical stuff.
Broders, look,
once is not going to hurt you.
It becomes a problem.
You didn't see how many...
How much I ate last night, but okay.
Yeah, I get that.
I get that.
But like,
once is that going to hurt you?
One of the problems,
the problem is when we are,
I've got to have a plate of ice
cream every single night.
Yeah.
And we're not, we're not there yet.
Yeah, no.
So, I actually have a Ninja Creamy.
The thing about the Ninja Creamy that's
awesome and horrible is that you have to
prep it and then freeze it for twenty
four hours.
So when like the feeling comes over me
to make it, I mean,
if I was smart,
I would make a couple tubs of it,
have in the freezer ready to go when
I have that feeling.
So.
You know, I have one though.
Yeah.
And I,
and you can make like really low fat,
low calorie ice cream and you can make
it protein ice cream and it's still pretty
damn good.
Um,
so that's probably what I need to do
is make some healthy,
healthy ice cream to have ready.
Uh, if he was two twenty,
he'd be posting a Spiegel pic.
Yeah.
with you one hundred percent buddy hey
look here larry we make it happen pumpkins
and do it together buddy make it happen
larry i'm a big fan bring out the
spiegel picks uh no viking i do not
have a pint of ice cream or not
a night however uh honey stinger and they
call them energy waffles they look like a
stroopwafel yep dude
I am obsessed right now.
I got chocolate peanut butter.
They make a peanut butter strawberry one,
which is kind of like a peanut butter
sandwich,
basically a peanut butter and jelly
sandwich,
but it's a little honey stinger thing.
So good, dude.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
One last quick news thing before we get
into some more stuff is,
I don't know if you guys saw this,
but Ricky Garrard got married.
I did not see that.
Good for him.
Go ahead, Ricky.
It's official.
Mr. and Mrs. Garrard, look at that.
That's a good-looking couple.
That is a good-looking couple.
So congrats to Ricky and his new bride
for that.
Super excited for them.
In the white suit.
Good dude.
In the white suit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fresh, Ricky.
That's fresh, Ricky Mack.
I like it.
At one time,
that would be like the Diddy thing, right?
Now we call it that.
We don't call it the Diddy thing anymore.
No.
Nobody refers to it.
I'll put it like this.
Whatever mix Aaron was playing this
morning during the six o'clock class,
it was like a mega mix type deal.
And one part of it had...
what's her name mariah carey fantasy on it
and i was like oh here we go
singing along and whatnot and i went back
and looked for it on my phone later
trying to find like that particular like
club mix or whatever it was the diddy
mix and i was like yeah i don't
think i can listen to that anymore they
come i have to just pass on that
or have to go with the original and
just kind of keep it keep it there
because i am yeah with anything
One of my favorite songs of all time
is Ignition by R. Kelly.
Yeah.
I'm having a hard time listening to it
now.
Yeah.
The remix to Ignition,
hot and fresh out of the kitchen.
And I can't listen anymore because he
likes to pee on women.
Well, and underage women at that.
Yes.
Yeah,
like makes it really hard to listen to
the music I used to love.
When you go back and look at his
stuff when he was with Aaliyah and it
says like the name of the song was
A.J.
Nothin' But a Number.
That's a problem that we did not even
identify back then,
which is horrible to say, but it's true.
Yeah,
I hate when musicians take my shit away.
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.
Stuff I liked before that I can no
longer like anymore.
So last thing I have before we move
on is the clue.
Oh, I didn't see it.
It's the clue.
It's the clue.
So it looks like...
The eye of a bison.
Okay, maybe.
Yeah, I can see that.
I thought it was not a tree at
first.
It's the eye of an animal.
I'm guessing bison.
I don't, maybe, maybe something else.
Maybe a sheep.
Maybe, I don't know.
I can't, the horn doesn't look big,
but it looks like it curves in real
quick like a bison.
But,
I have no freaking idea.
I know, dude.
Not even a little bit.
Not even like a, oh, maybe that's it.
If you mess with the bull,
get the horns.
Oh, you don't get the horns.
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I have no idea, brother.
None whatsoever.
I don't even know what that might be,
if I'm being completely honest.
Which none of his clues ever make any
sense.
So...
yeah i saw this comment mark in his
week in review uh he says he worries
his clues are too obvious not a worry
dude yeah no you can go ahead and
sleep better at night now not worrying
about that oh vicky it's a jab the
year of bullshit
Oh, shoot.
I didn't read it before I pulled it
up, man.
That's fantastic.
This confirms burpees over rower.
You explain that one to me, Kenneth.
Yeah, I would love to.
I love to.
Give me your... Hexy Lover says it's goat,
the greatest of all time.
I mean, if it's a bison,
it's into the storm, then it's...
Something Rich won in the past?
Something Rich, maybe.
So we're starting off with a repeat?
Repeat of Rich open announcement?
Repeat of Rich open announcement, yeah.
What's the one,
was it Seventeen One that he won after
he retired with the double unders and and
then someone tried to beat it recently and
they did but not by as much as
people thought they should.
Can't remember who it was.
Man.
I don't know, brother.
You got me on that one.
Austin.
It was Austin.
Austin tried to redo it.
And he did beat him,
but it was just barely.
But Rich did that workout like eight years
ago.
And Austin barely beat him.
I don't know if y'all know this or
not, but Rich Froning is pretty fed.
Yeah.
Still.
Still today.
It is the twentieth year.
It wouldn't surprise me that there's some
repeats, right?
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
I think there should be some.
It would only make sense.
There should be repeated repeats.
Right.
We've got...
Twenty years of stuff to pick from.
Well, the opening only started in eleven.
Well, okay.
So, yeah.
But I get what you're saying.
Right.
So you got fifteen years of stuff to
pick from.
Fourteen years, whatever it is.
Repeats with a twist this year.
That'd be cool, too.
That'd be cool.
I don't know.
It would have to be...
It'd have to be,
it would still have to,
because there's still going to be the
first week is still going to be something
that everybody can do.
It needs to be something everybody can do.
Right.
Is there one open workout considered the
greatest of all time?
Uh, the,
I think there's a couple that are probably
a couple that would fall underneath there.
Yeah.
The, uh,
the clean ladder with the towed bore.
Well, I think that.
Where you buy yourself more time.
Twenty one to eighteen fifteen burpee over
bar thruster burpee over bar.
I think that the dumbbell snatch and the
box jump overs.
Is a and it's been done twice.
Both of those have been repeated because
they were considered great.
That one hurt toes.
The toes to bar in the in the
clean ladder was a big one.
Yep.
And that one was fun.
Yeah.
I think both Mark Phillips and Peter
Benoit are saying the twenty five toes to
bar fifty dubs clean ladder.
Yeah.
Buy yourself more time.
No, no wall walks, Jody, please.
Let's not let's not even.
Wall walks, O.G.
Wall walks are recent.
And I hate them.
Relatively speaking, yeah.
What was that, like,
twenty-one or twenty-two when we had them
with the double owners?
Yeah, it was not that long ago.
Like, I'm OG.
One of my favorites was the deadlift
ladder and the box jumps where it was
fifteen box jumps and then you deadlifted.
And it kept going up in weight every
time that was, um, fourteen, fourteen,
three or four.
I will be down with that one because
I am really good at deadlifts and I
am pretty decent at jumping over a box.
Yeah.
That one was a,
that one was a fun one.
That was my best workout ever.
Um,
I just was in the zone that day.
I think the snatch and the double under
one was a classic, too.
Like, fifteen-fifteen.
Like, super fast transitions.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, here we go.
Per chat, GPT,
this is a macro close-up of an engraved
coin.
Specifically,
the iron fur detail from the American
buffalo.
Buffalo nickel.
Can we have a year without stupid
deadlifts?
We've had lots of years without stupid
deadlifts.
And deadlifts are stupid.
I'm not great at them.
My back just doesn't allow it,
but we've had them.
You know,
you're going to hate me for saying this,
but the one that we had a couple
years ago with the burpees over the bar,
that went up and then went back down,
I would be one hundred percent down and
do that one again.
Because I did not finish it.
Ten, nine, eight, seven.
That's the one where Sam Briggs yelled at
me.
i think i could finish it now like
i didn't i got i was on the
back side i was getting close but i
think i could finish it now and i
would like to try it again but i'm
not trying it again unless it's programmed
yeah it was pretty awful that middle
section at the double the ten and the
two nines yeah when it's math dude like
it's trying to remember okay i just did
ten
not even nine and then nine.
And then we're going down.
So eight, eight.
And then it was terrible.
Seema says, if it's a repeat,
Dave really earning a salary, listen,
let's give it a chance.
Maybe it's a repeat with a twist.
Yeah.
I wouldn't be,
I wouldn't be upset about a repeat with
it.
You know, slight modification to,
especially if it's an older one,
a slight modification here.
I want the nostalgia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
and then to take into account the fact
that like as a whole,
we are all a lot fitter than we
were in twenty fourteen or in twenty
sixteen or whatever.
Right.
So take something from back then that may
not have aged well because there are some
that didn't age very well.
Right.
You kind of look at it and you
go, hmm.
And then maybe move some stuff around,
change the loading a little bit.
Something along those lines to make it
more appropriate for twenty twenty six.
Yeah.
You know what I'm going to change up
this year?
I'm going to take some thirdsy.
I'm going to get a good night's sleep
before the day I do the workout for
sure.
And the first start of that is taking
my thirdsy.
Last night I was not allowed to do
it because of the procedure the last two
nights.
I am looking forward to tonight and
getting a good night's sleep,
taking some thirdsy, getting that done,
using the code Jazzy to get fifteen
percent off my order at checkout.
Go to thirdsy.com backslash thirdsy and
make sure that I am prepped and ready
for twenty six point one and the entirety
of the open season.
All three weeks.
All three weeks.
When is salted caramel coming back?
The strawberry lemonade is just OK.
Listen, they're both good.
They're very different in the way that you
use them and taste them,
but they both let you sleep at night.
I did reach out to the company to
find out if it was coming back.
It was a limited edition release.
They do those periodically.
Maybe we get something different.
Maybe we get something new.
Who knows?
Like a blueberry something or another.
Just giving you examples.
giving you just giving you some just
giving you some free free ideas thursday
like a blueberry cream that would be so
good yeah i'm see i like the strawberry
for quickness like because i can just dump
it in my blender bottle shake it up
and drink it as i'm going to bed
i what i found out is that with
cold water like water out the fridge
You know, the door to fridge, cold water.
It's so much better than if you just
do room temperature.
Yeah, yeah.
And the salted caramel,
I do milk heated in the microwave and
then add my stuff and put it in
the Ninja Bullet and then like it's a
process.
It gets so frothy.
It's so good, dude.
Yeah.
I like the salted caramel nice warm with
milk.
I'm still drinking the strawberry lemonade
and it still works.
See, it works.
Both taste great,
but I will do anything if it works.
Like I've plugged my nose and done
whatever it took if it works.
Way more functionality than anything else.
But when you get quality and
functionality, it's even better.
A hundred percent.
I like the strawberry lemonade as well.
I am holding out hope that they either
bring the salted caramel back or give us
something else cool for the spring slash
summer.
But either way,
with the way I've been sleeping,
you're going to see me buying two bags
every couple of months because it's every
night.
I brought it to Fitness to the Coast
with me.
And then my partner also brought hers with
her.
We were twinsies as far as that was
concerned.
It's awesome, dude.
Third Z milkshake tonight for Scott,
doctor's orders.
There we go.
Didn't know you were Dr. Wayne,
but thank you very much for the
prescription.
Well,
he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express
last night, so.
There we go.
All right,
so now let's get into the talk of
the town.
Here we go.
And that is all the drama surrounding the
CrossFit media.
And I want to preface this with one
thing.
I'm not an insider to either of these
camps.
I have no inside information.
I have not talked to any of them.
Although I have met most of them and
I have,
and I know them on a personal level.
I watch all of their content.
So I have no inside information.
I'm watching from the outside in just like
everybody else.
And so it started with a Hiller video
critiquing the Kill Taylor show.
Taylor self had a response on the CrossFit
network that is owned by Savan and crew.
And then Hiller and Tyler Watkins got went
live last night to respond again.
The response to the response.
And that's kind of the first thing I
want to say is that's the beauty of
the CrossFit space.
You can make content by just responding to
responses who have responded to your post.
It's wild.
And it still gets views three levels deep.
I was about to say it's going to
get a gazillion views.
So I watched Hiller's video.
i thought it was very measured yeah i
thought it was and he says it was
his opinion and he was comparing it to
tv shows that dip might i say my
favorite show of all time is the example
used the show that never dipped and that
was breaking bad yeah
But he showed even his own favorite show,
Dexter, dipped at the end.
He used the example Game of Thrones,
dipped at the end.
And he was pointing that out with the
Kill Taylor show.
I think what people are getting wrapped up
in is the swearing part of it.
And I don't even think that's the main
point that Hiller was trying to make.
No, I'd agree with that.
He was pointing that out because it worked
for him because of what he's trying to
do.
I don't think Taylor cares.
Right,
but I don't even think that was Hiller's
main point.
No, not at all.
It was like a sub point.
It was really about the format change and
not being consistent on the day and time
they said.
then taylor responds and i will be honest
i did not make it through all two
hours no no i didn't see any of
that last night i saw that it was
on and that was that was as far
as i got i made it probably a
little over an hour in and i thought
taylor took some of the criticism well i
thought others he did not and it's his
entitlement to do so i
I heard that as the later that two
hours went,
the more kind of unraveled that went.
But I cannot speak to that because I
did not make it that far.
I'm hoping to get through it a little
bit later today.
But that's what I have heard.
And then Tyler and Hiller went live last
night with another response.
and Tyler added some texture to it with
his own personal experiences.
And it appears from that response,
they have had these conversations behind
the scenes before this ever went public.
And it seemed as though both were kind
of
removed from different text strings and
different things behind the scenes because
of their comments and um and maybe that's
by choice maybe not um but it's it's
just a wild wild thing right the thing
on the response to the response that
caught me was that Hiller was tired of
the groupthink
And that is one thing that is a
pet peeve of mine.
Again, I am not in these inside chats.
I am not in these text strings.
I don't know if it's really happening or
not.
That is just a term that Hiller used
a lot in his response to the response.
Right.
And that's something that is a pet peeve
of mine.
I tell my crew, which I love dearly,
and I told them that yesterday and Sunday
after watching these videos,
and you are included in this,
is that I love who I have on
this team.
I love working with you guys every single
day.
And I love that we can argue and
disagree, and it's okay.
Yeah.
I was watching you and Jamie freaking hash
it out Sunday night and I was like,
this is what I'm here for, right?
Because why,
what good is it if everybody just agrees
all the time?
If everybody's special,
then nobody's special.
If everybody's agreeing with everybody all
the time,
you're in an echo chamber at that point.
Again, about some stuff, absolutely.
We share the same views about this and
about that.
But some stuff we're gonna see differently
and that's good.
That's good for discourse.
Because maybe you see stuff from my view
and you understand me a little bit better.
And maybe I can see stuff from your
view and I can understand you a little
bit better.
And then we get along a little bit
better while still holding our same views.
It's really not that complicated.
If everybody is agreeing all the time,
somebody is lying.
Yes.
um lito says uh you don't need to
watch the full two hours to be honest
it just gets repetitive after the first
twenty minutes or so um taylor seems to
just be triggered by any criticism he
seems like dr jekyll mr hyde that from
shanna um
Larry Young says,
a lot of this is that the Savon
posse expects you to agree with their
views.
Hiller said he's tired of group thought.
Yeah,
I got that a lot last night from
his video.
Train all of them at the point where
I don't watch Kill Taylor live and fast
forward just to see if anybody calls in.
When it first started,
I would catch them every chance that I
got.
But then they started when they moved to
Saturday and basically about ten o'clock.
I'm usually at the gym or I just
got home one or two.
That's my training time or whatnot.
So in Kill Taylor,
as good as it at least was when
I was watching it on a regular basis,
if I'm not catching it live,
I'm not watching it later because it
doesn't make any sense.
It's a live show.
might want to i mean if you if
you're into that kind of thing i guess
you can go watch later on but it's
a live show and it's way more fun
live than it is not i think anyway
i have absolutely no idea i haven't caught
one in months just because it's not at
a convenient time for me and i'm not
going back and watch it later so i
want to say this because
I watched Sivan for a long time and
all the stuff on his channel, right?
He has changed the way I think about
things.
Sure.
And I've been open and honest about that.
I have texted him about that.
I've thanked him for seeing things from a
different perspective.
Does it mean I agree with everything
that's said on the channel?
No.
But he has changed my perspective in some
outlooks.
right and i think that was good and
i think that like at the beginning of
and maybe still to this day it wasn't
groupthink it was his opinion about things
and he would have people on that not
didn't necessarily agree with him and i
think those were the best shows where they
have that discussion right when it comes
to kill taylor i used to catch every
single episode
But now that my daughter has moved away
and it's just my wife and I,
Saturday mornings are kind of like our
time.
Sure.
And as much as the language and all
that stuff doesn't bother me on the whole,
it bothers my wife tremendously.
And not the language.
My wife has a potty mouth.
Right.
Right.
flat out but the issue is the the
the way that they joke with each other
and the insults thrown are not her bag
of tea and and so it's my choice
is to go be by myself and put
my headphones in or to hang out with
my wife
And my wife just wins out on those
Saturday mornings now.
It's not a hard thing.
It's not a hard choice.
Right.
Right.
If, if that stuff wasn't in there,
we could watch it together.
Just being flat out blatant about it.
Um,
where savan even though that he cusses and
swears when he has those people on where
they have disagreements about topics my
wife will listen in on that and be
okay with that does that make sense no
it absolutely does savan has a very
his interview style where he just sits
there and listens to people and then asks
questions that are related to what they're
getting at that are not personal attacks
like a lot of people do, right?
Even though he doesn't,
or I should say not even though,
because he doesn't understand it,
you can tell he's genuinely trying to see
it from somebody else's perspective and
trying to understand it from where they're
sitting.
And we'll take it, process it.
Maybe he'll change his mind.
Maybe it won't.
He said that before, right?
He said things like out loud like that
to say, you know what,
you've made me think about this
differently and I'm going to have a
different opinion about it now.
And he's also said,
I understand that you feel that way.
That's cool.
Moving on to the next thing.
Not a lot of people can do that.
Mark Phillips says,
my wife hates listening to locker room
talk, so I don't tune in.
That's a big part of my Saturday morning,
why I don't tune in when I used
to.
Terry says,
I don't know why they're doing it
publicly.
And I think if you listen to Hiller's
response to the response,
he said that there were attempts,
but Hiller doesn't do phone calls.
Like they can talk things out through text
or whatever.
And he just gets to a point where,
hey,
I'm just going to make a video about
it.
And he used the Brian Friend thing as
an example.
They tried to talk behind the scenes and
they tried to text and he tried to
give advice.
He tried to do these things and it
got to a point where it wasn't getting
anywhere.
So his thought was,
I'm going to do a video.
Which is what he does.
That's how he communicates with the world.
He did the same thing when he broke
down the WFP video.
Went frame by frame almost and said, hey,
this is good, this is bad,
this is good, this is bad,
this is good, this is bad, etc.
That was to an entire organization that he
doesn't really necessarily have any ties
to.
Him and Taylor know each other.
And it's not like he was saying,
y'all suck and this is why.
He's offering what came across to me
anyway as mostly constructive criticism
about, hey, this could be better.
This was fantastic when it started.
It could be better.
And here's the things that I think could
make it better.
Aku Black Dragon,
I think it got put out there because
in private, nothing was changing.
I feel this wasn't a jab,
but a criticism on some needed changes.
Wayne Short says,
I no longer subscribe to Savon,
the Savon podcast or CrossFit Network for
all the non-KT points.
Hiller made,
much more watchable media outlet these
days, Clydesdale Spin,
Boys CrossFit Sport Podcast.
Well, thank you for that.
Appreciate it.
And that's why everybody's different.
Everybody enjoys different things,
but I'll be honest with you.
If you want to be relevant in this
space and you want to know things that
are going on,
they have inside information that others
don't.
And that's why I have to listen to
Savant.
Yep.
And there are times where I actually enjoy
it very, very much.
Um,
David Reed,
it was not up to Hiller to correct
anyone.
If the feedback was not received,
that should have been the end.
Doing a video is not the way friends
interact.
But we took it on the chin last
year when we made a couple critical
comments about the Syndicate Crown
broadcast done by the Savon podcast.
They came at us in the chat.
They came at us over the air.
It wasn't like we were trying,
and we probably made the mistake of saying
too much negative because what they
brought was new and different and
something that we wouldn't have had any
kind of broadcast if they weren't there
doing it, right?
And then we were critical of a few
things that happened during that
broadcast.
And we got, they came back at us.
And I think that's fair.
You're in a public space.
You have a public show.
You are going to be publicly criticized at
times.
I get criticized all the time in the
chats.
If you look at the YouTube comments,
I get dogged all the time.
It's just the way it is the minute
you put yourself out there like this.
Friends or not,
Hiller's been critical of the way I've
done things in the past.
Sure.
And it's my choice whether to listen to
that or ignore it.
And most of the time,
if it's constructive,
which Hiller is pretty good at being
constructive about his criticism,
for the most part.
He does a lot of thinking before he
speaks.
And with that,
then I can take that constructive
criticism and choose whether to use it or
not.
Yeah.
I think the point you're making is that
we are right now in the public space.
Anybody could tune in and watch this and
have whatever they want to say about
whatever we're saying.
And that's fine.
You do not have, we don't,
we don't have to listen or we can
either way.
Like if your feelings are heard that much
about it,
then you should probably develop some
thicker skin.
Chelsea Miller conspiracy theory.
This is all staged to drum up views
for the Sentinel versus Hiller open
challenge.
Sadly, no, sadly, no, this isn't the case.
I'll be honest with you.
I, I text Jamie and Carolyn and said,
do you think this is real?
Or do you think this is staged?
I've been wondering that since it started.
And when you hear John on the WOD
prep podcast on Monday night saying that
the whole Brian thing,
there was some wrestling pre stuff to that
top one hundred that made it so they
were in a bigger spat before they met
to do that top one hundred.
Oh, I bet.
john admitted it monday night flat out on
the that when he said he would never
work with brian again never ever that was
all meant to amp up for views of
the top one hundred by the time that
came out like you don't just that didn't
happen over two days like hillary didn't
call john and like hey can you be
here tomorrow we're gonna do this whole
thing like that was probably been planned
for weeks yeah hundred percent dude
Hiller said it a million times.
His main goal is to get clicks and
to get views.
He is a full-time YouTuber.
Period.
Vicky says, I wondered too,
but those guys haven't been on KT in
a long time.
It was kind of obvious something's been
going on.
If you watch the rebuttal to the rebuttal,
I don't think it's staged anymore.
When Tyler came in and gave his
experience,
it gave a lot of authenticity to the
overall spat, argument,
whatever we want to call it.
Teresa Rochford is,
I think Seve has been supportive of all
of them and is now getting kicked.
I don't think it was meant to be
a kick at Savant.
I don't think it was that at all.
I think it was a,
if you truly sit down and watch with
an open mind, Hiller's first video,
it is a flat out critique,
like a TV critic critiquing the kill
Taylor show completely.
Here's the thing about, uh,
several as well as that he was around
before any of those guys, uh,
We're on and live.
If all of them went away tomorrow,
he would still get up and do his
seven o'clock a.m.
show about whatever he decided to be,
decided it needed to be about,
whether it's doing the Sevan podcast stuff
or if he decided to go ahead and
do a CrossFit show with just him and
freaking and Souza.
Not that he's not going to love him
anymore,
but he is still going to keep continuing
on because that's what he does.
And he's been creating media for gobbledy
knows how long.
It's not happening, right?
Teresa says, I agree, Scott.
I took Hiller's video as a reach out
to help the show.
Yeah.
I truly believe that's what it was.
And I think he was speaking to just
that specific show.
Mm-hmm.
For the most part.
There was one little pot shot about the
overall channel, but for the most part,
it was that.
Mark Phillips, I miss Armand Hammer.
Armand was one of my inspirations to get
into this.
He has been on my show twice.
If you've never seen those episodes,
they're great.
I had him on once while he was
still active,
and I had him on once after he
retired.
I think Scale as Needed is still on
iTunes podcast, which is,
that was my favorite.
That was my introduction to Armand.
And those were, generally speaking,
hilarious shows.
Same.
Armand was great.
Loved Armand.
Yeah, Chase Smith or Chase Long.
Sorry, Chase Long.
I was on Scaled as a Nation.
We text.
Like, I'm friends with Chase.
He is the one who got me the
C-IV deal a couple years ago.
And Chase has been on the show.
Chase is freaking awesome.
I got a C-IV coming today,
as a matter of fact.
I'm glad you said that.
uh i suspected something was up when
hillar and brian friend video came out i
don't think that had i don't think that
had anything to do with the other oh
that's two guys with asperger's having a
conversation that's all that is uh arman
did just follow the narrative didn't just
follow the narrative he just said things
that's the fact yeah
Armand was great.
Armand was, yeah.
Well, Armand presented it with no bias,
right?
And he was just like, hey,
this is what's happening.
And the one thing that you knew every
episode is he just loved freaking
CrossFit.
He just wanted it to succeed so badly.
And I think I get that from Hiller.
And I think I get that from Savan.
I definitely get that from Matt Souza.
Oh, yeah.
And that's what I...
When Sousa comes on and he does his
shows,
these are the things that need to happen
for us to improve.
I'm listening full-heartedly.
Because that dude loves CrossFit and what
it does and what it can be.
And he preaches hard on that.
And he is intelligent and actually has
plans and ideas to move...
to move the needle in the,
in the right direction.
Not just,
it's not just pie in the sky.
We should own a store type shit.
He actually has some,
he has to have something to say.
And to be honest, Taylor, the same way,
every time I've seen Taylor in person and
I've met him live and him and Bryson,
both the way they coach athletes,
the way they are invested in their people
is second to none.
It is why I am signed up with
Sentinel.
Oh.
I've been signed up with Sentinel for like
eight months.
Okay.
When I saw him, I visited the coast.
He gave me a business card for a
free month.
Yeah,
I've been doing modifications or versions
of Sentinel for eight months.
Yeah, I had my E-Mom Company jersey on,
and he said, E-Mom Company, huh?
And I was like, yep.
And he said,
and he reaches in his pack or whatever
and gives me his own.
He said, it's a free month.
Just try it out.
And I said, brother,
you ain't going to get me away from
Brandon, but I appreciate it.
But he cares.
He wants to make people better.
Yeah,
but I don't see that same Taylor on
Kill Taylor.
Well, no, because that's a, that's,
it's a character and it's a character and
they believe in that show and they believe
in that format.
And I said this on Sunday night,
when you're in this content creation
space, you're all,
you're trying to figure it out.
Yeah.
Like you're, you try different things.
You try new things.
Sometimes they work.
Sometimes they don't.
Some are more calculated about it and look
at the numbers specifically.
Some just on a whim say,
let's give this a shot and see where
it goes.
it just happens i don't i'm not saying
that kill taylor should be cancelled or
anything like that doing your thing trying
to figure it out it is a great
concept it is a great concept so uh
lita says hubby and i pay for sentinel
too and do workouts sometimes when we want
something different it's a real good
program it is a great program
The amount of detail they put into every
workout, like... Corey knows.
Years ago, my gym used to do...
Ben Bergeron crap.
What's it called?
Cop train comp train.
I hated, I hated every bit of that.
I hated the way it was set up
in the app.
I hated the way it was set up
on the PC.
I hated all of it was Sentinel.
I get the whole damn story in one
school.
And it's so nice.
So nice.
Like, I love this compared to that.
And in the middle was Mayhem,
which had its own issues with me.
A little too repetitive for my sake,
but it is what it is.
I actually love Christy O'Connell and
Patrick O'Connell from CrossFit Players.
Their programming has been my favorite of
all time.
And when they moved and they sold the
gym, I lost that.
Lame.
It is what it is.
I think you'd like it, Corey,
because it was a very interval-based type
training.
I do a lot of that.
I do a lot of that.
And this morning I did all the pressing
I could possibly hope for and then a
little bit more.
Yeah.
Strict press, incline bench, flat bench,
handstand walk, handstand push-ups,
and some pull-ups, and some GHDs.
Like, it was a whole thing.
Teresa says, me too.
Everybody I know that does Taylor's
program loves it.
I haven't found anybody yet who's like,
this is stupid,
and I moved on and went somewhere else.
Is Teresa talking about Polaris,
or is she talking about?
No clue.
I don't know.
I like Sentinel,
but also like a little variation in the
workouts.
I think it gives you that opportunity to
put some variation into it.
So yeah,
I thought she was talking about Christie.
Christie was,
their programming was so good.
I actually looked forward to going to the
gym every day because of their
programming.
when you find that like that's special
something to hold on to for sure so
anyway we've we're up against the hour i
need to get back to work i have
like two more meetings this afternoon um
so whoopie me yay with that i'm glad
you jumped on uh because i think you
added a lot to today's show thank you
for doing that oh yeah bro i was
glad glad i was able to
Make sure you like and subscribe to the
channel.
We've gained a few followers,
a few subscribers over the last couple of
days.
Love to keep that momentum rolling a
little bit.
We're so close to three grand.
I just want to hit three grand.
That's it.
I don't, I don't need the big numbers.
Our conversion rate from subscribers to
listeners is huge.
And I love you all for that.
It's because of you.
Thank you so much.
Um, tell your friends, tell your wives,
tell your friends, wives.
Like and subscribe.
It's free.
It is free.
And Wayne reminds us it's less than fifty
hours until the open announcement.
Such an odd time domain there, Wayne,
but yeah.
Let's go.
It's close.
Yeah.
Surprise, surprise.
Larry Young likes Meathead Days.
He don't like what I did this morning.
I love Meathead Days.
Love Meathead Days.
Mark Phillips, you are a man among boys.
Thank you so much.
Love you guys, man.
I cannot believe the support.
You guys are freaking awesome.
Thank you so much.
Have a great rest of your day.
We'll be back tomorrow for Wednesday on
Lunch with the Clydesdale.
And then I'll see when my follow-up
appointments are.
Still waiting to hear final dates and
times.
And I'll let you know what the rest
of the week looks like.
All right, have a great day, guys,
and we will see you soon.