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Beginning the episode is Technician News Editors, Abigail, Emily and Heidi. Running through their weekly tidbits and recent local news.
Following, Maha interviews local artist Carina Earl. They discuss Carina's art and their process through creating and meditative practices.
Eye on the Triangle is WKNC 88.1 FM HD-1/HD-2ās weekly public affairs programming with news, interviews, opinion, weather, sports, arts, music, events and issues that matter to NC State, Raleigh and the Triangle.
00:00
Brian Jurado
The views and opinions expressed on Eye on the Triangle do not represent WKNC or NC State student media. Your dial is currently tuned into Eye on the triangle here on WKNC 88.1 HD-1 Raleigh. Hello everyone. This is Brian Jurado, the public affairs Director here at WKNC and host of Eye on the Triangle. Starting off today's episode, Heidi, Emily and Abigail bring us the weekly news. Following the weekly news, Maha has an interview with Karina Earl, a local artist based out of Raleigh and manager of EDM Group Fractal Mind. Hope you all enjoy.
00:47
Abigail
Hello guys. Welcome back to Eye on the Triangle. My name is Abigail Ali. I am the news editor at Technician and today I am here with.
00:55
Heidi
Hey guys, I'm Heidi. I'm one of the assistant news editors at Technician.
00:58
Emily
And I'm Emily. I'm the other assistant news editor at Technician.
01:03
Abigail
And today, we have brought you some news from around the Triangle and yeah, let's get into it.
01:08
Heidi
So for some of our more consistent listeners, you might remember this one I mentioned A few months ago, a group of people working to save the Raleigh Seaboard station after Turnbridge equities, which is a New York developer, made plans of Raleigh to demolish the 80 year old station. The developer planned to build two towers in the site which is currently home to Logan's Garden Shop, which is super cute. If you haven't been there, check it out. The group protested and convinced four city council members to not approve the rezoning which forced Turnbridge equities to change their plans. And so the developer agreed to preserve or relocate at least 50% of the Seaboard station in exchange to building 20 stories. The project will cost 20 million or $200 million and construction won't start until 2025.
01:58
Heidi
So I just really enjoyed the story because I remember talking about it and hoping the protesters would win. And like I feel like it's rare protesters win against like cities and city councils. So that's exciting. I'm really curious whether they're going to re locate or just leave it there because I feel like big companies like this often get mad when things get in their way such as this. So I wouldn't be surprised if they relocated and I'm curious about how that would go. But yeah, I'm glad they changed their minds.
02:26
Abigail
That is so exciting. I also remember reading about this because Mari, one of our co workers wrote an article for Indy when it came like when it was first announced and it was kind of really heartbreaking to read and I've definitely Noticed that Raleigh is quick to just, like, knock down historical buildings. So nice to see them try to preserve more history, because I think it's important and it's sweet. And a lot of people still have ties to places like the Seaboard Station, so. Yeah, that's really exciting and I'm so glad to hear that because I have to say I wasn't hopeful because, yeah, it's very rare protesters do win. So I'm glad it got enough attention and traction to stay around a little bit longer.
03:10
Emily
Yeah, I feel like that was really surprising to me to hear that they actually won because, like, to be honest, I feel like, everyone said, like, that just doesn't happen that much, but it is interesting to think about, like, whether they'll relocate or just preserve some of it just because, like, I can't decide which one would cost more money. And I feel like they're going to go with whatever costs less. So, like, if. I mean, I guess technically leaving it would cost less, but, like, in terms of, like, if they want to put a business there, it would cost them money because they can't because, like, changing.
03:38
Heidi
Their plans would cost them money.
03:39
Emily
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, no, it'll be interesting.
03:43
Heidi
It will be interesting. If any Raleigh City Council members are listening to this. Stop urbanization. It sucks. Stop tearing down historical landmarks.
03:50
Abigail
Yeah, literally.
03:54
Emily
Alrighty. So I'm sure some of our listeners are definitely Impractical Jokers fans. I just get that vibe from you guys. But if you're not familiar with the Impractical jokers, there are now only three guys named Mercel and Q. And they're basically just like me, Abigail and Heidi, except we're probably funnier. Yeah, true. Yes. So I recently found out that they're going on tour and they're coming to Charlotte, North Carolina on February 17th. So if you live in the triangle, I'm telling you in advance so that you can make plans to do a fun road trip with your friends to go see them, because tickets are on sale now and they start at $25, which I think is pretty reasonable to see this amazing comedy duo.
04:32
Emily
So, I don't know, I feel like you would go and have a lot of fun and also you can make a road trip out of it. So that's my tidbit.
04:38
Heidi
I feel like that kind of be scary. Like, what if you're sitting in the crowd and you just, like, get pranked? How else are they going to do it? Like, I don't know.
04:46
Abigail
I don't see much of that prank like, it's fun.
04:48
Emily
You'll just have fun there.
04:50
Abigail
Isn't that what Ashton Kutcher used to do?
04:52
Emily
I feel like his was more like. I never watched it, but I thought it was more like. Like a joke is on you. I feel like impractical jokers is more like the guys are the people who are, like, making themselves look dumb and you're just like, you know, like Ashton Kutcher. I think it was like, more of an embarrassment. But these are just kind of like. They're just kind of making. They're just doing silly things.
05:12
Abigail
Okay, cool.
05:13
Heidi
We should go on a comedy tour, too.
05:15
Emily
Oh, my God. Let us know if you want us to go on a comedy tour.
05:18
Abigail
So true. Okay, so my tidbits this week are gonna be a little bit different just because I have blabbed and blabbed for the past few weeks about holiday events going on in the triangle. So I wanted to switch it up and give you a little bit something different. So I'm going to focus on shouting out some local businesses that I love and will be perfect for doing some Christmas shopping. And yeah, because I think shopping local is very important. It can be a little bit expensive, but, you know, it's good to support. So save up some money, honey, and go to these really cool spots because I love them. The first one I'm going to talk about is I wanted to shout out Deco Raleigh, which is a gift shop full of unique trinkets, things like gardening kits, homeware, quirky card sets, and more.
06:13
Abigail
It's one of those stores that's, like, very pop culture forward and has items ranging from very thoughtful and artistic, like glassware, to, like, goofy and weird, like, I don't even know, like, books and stuff that are just, like, really strange, but, like, the kind of stuff that's funny, I don't know. And their wide range of stock makes it. Makes it the perfect place for Christmas shopping or just, like, peeking around if you're looking for a little treat for yourself. And so I highly recommend giving it a try this holiday season. It is literally such a fun store. And every time I go in, I find myself redesigning the cute apartment I don't have right now and picking out gifts for everybody in my inner circle and planning for birthdays. So I know it will be the best for the holidays. And.
07:02
Abigail
Yeah, try it out.
07:04
Emily
I'm so excited that you're doing this because I feel like I don't have a great, like, knowledge of the small businesses in Raleigh, but I do really need to get Christmas Gifts from people. But I think this sounds, like, so cool, and I really want to. I really want to go there now. Like, it sounds so fun.
07:17
Heidi
That sounds cool because I am a huge advocate of trinkets, and I'm also a huge advocate of buying little treats for yourself. So, like, everyone wins. There's something for everyone.
07:26
Abigail
Yeah. And they have, like. I don't know, they just have the funniest little things. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like candle holders and then, like, mugs that are, like, naked people, like, you know.
07:38
Heidi
Yeah.
07:38
Abigail
Yeah. It's just one of those stores that's just funny. I like it.
07:41
Emily
I love, like, those stores with just a ton of little trinkets. I feel like you can spend so much time in them, too. Just, like, it's enjoyable to be around and just look at everything. Yeah, exactly.
07:49
Heidi
I always, like, stand in the middle of those stores because I'll, like, find a book that's kind of, like, cute or funny, and I'll stand, like, read the book for 10 minutes and be like, oh, man, I can't do this.
07:56
Abigail
Yeah.
07:57
Heidi
Love stores, like, yeah, same. Okay, so of some, as you. As some of you know, Mr. Noble has been found. Just to clear things up. Mr. Noble was that man who sat at the end of Hillsborough selling flowers. And he also was at the intersection of Peace street and St. Mary a lot. And he was reporting. Reported missing a couple weeks ago by the employees at Fallon's Flowers. Because usually he comes in to buy his roses for everyone.
08:24
Abigail
Yeah.
08:25
Heidi
And he hadn't turned up for a while. And when I heard he was missing, I was like, oh, wait, I haven't seen him for a while. And that's weird because usually, like, he's always on the bench or something like that.
08:32
Abigail
Yeah.
08:32
Heidi
But thank God he's safe and has been found. And he was in Atlantic City, New Jersey. I don't know what he's doing, how he got there, but thank goodness he is safe because this man is so sweet. Like, I've seen him give so many people just free flowers, and he's just known for his kindness. So I'm very glad he is safe and I hope he comes back soon. I don't know what. What. What there is in Atlantic City, but it can't be as good as Raleigh, literally.
08:59
Emily
Yeah. That's really. That's really good news. I'm so happy that he was found because, like, especially so far away, I can't even believe that, like, they found him because, like, I would just expect to be looking in North Carolina.
09:09
Heidi
I know I couldn't find information on how they found him, but it just said, like, the people at Fallon's flowers were, like, oh, super determined to find him because, like, they're important. Like, he was important to, like, our community, which he is. So I'm glad they were that determined. But I want to know, like, how. Because, like.
09:22
Emily
Yeah.
09:23
Abigail
Yeah. I wonder if they know his family or something.
09:25
Heidi
Yeah, maybe.
09:27
Abigail
Well, I'm so glad he was found because. Yeah. I, like, know people who have gotten his flowers and are just, like, it made their day. And, like, I don't know. He's such a presence.
09:36
Abigail
So I don't know.
09:37
Heidi
Yeah.
09:37
Abigail
I'm glad he's okay.
09:38
Heidi
So sweet.
09:38
Abigail
Yeah.
09:40
Emily
All right, so my next tidbit is about Durham Public Schools, which they're apparently a historically underfunded. Underfunded school district, which doesn't surprise me because I feel like pretty much every. Every public school district right now is underfunded. But they recently received an unsolicited $18 million grant from Mackenzie Scott.
09:59
Abigail
Whoa.
10:00
Emily
Yeah. Which is a lot of money. And Mackenzie Scott sounded so familiar to me, so I looked it up, and she divorced from Jeff Bezos in 2019. So she has a lot of money, and apparently she's given a lot of it away to public schools. Like, that's her thing, which I think is so great, because public schools need it so bad.
10:17
Abigail
Yeah.
10:18
Emily
And I also think it's, like, so cool that this was unsolicited, because I feel like that's such a. Like, an amazing surprise. And that'll go, like. That'll just, like, really help the school district from, like, even just, like, giving free and reduced lunch to people or, like, helping fund for, like, more teachers or more support staff or whatever. Like, that can help with, like, so. So much so. So I think if I was ever a billionaire, I would do that, too. But that's just, like, a really cool thing. And I think it's so great that they're investing in public education. And it was unsolicited, but that's actually amazing.
10:50
Heidi
Also, that woman, I don't know what she was doing ever married to Jeff Bezos, because she's also donated, like, a ridiculous amount to climate change research as well. Like, she just gives her money away all the time. She wanted a divorce. But, like, education, that's a great thing she's doing. I'm so happy about that.
11:05
Abigail
Yeah, that's amazing. Especially coming from a school that did not have great funding. It's like, I know the struggles and how annoying it can be sometimes. And yeah, no, that's going to be so incredibly helpful for that school. And as long as it lasts, it's going to be like, I don't know, kind of game changing, at least for a little while. Yeah, yeah. And maybe it'll give like the school opportunities to keep up, like better funding and stuff, which will be really nice. So it'll be cool to see what they do with that money. Okay, so my second tidbit is going to be about a another. Well, it's kind of a pairing of stores, but we'll get into it. So I wanted to also recommend Edge of Urge and Unlikely Professionals as places to shop this holiday season.
11:54
Abigail
These stores are owned by the same people, so they're kind of collaborative. Edge of Urge caters to a more feminine audience, while Unlikely Professionals caters to a more masculine audience. Similar to Deco, these stores feature fun trinkets, funny books, home accessories, whatever. But they also include things like jewelry and clothes that are like, I think most of them are come from local creators and designers and stuff like that. Unlikely Professionals also tends to carry fun like beers and I think they also have wine sometimes and visitors can even grab a drink as they walk around the store because they have like a cute little beer bar. It's kind of fun. Edge of Urge and Unlikely Professionals are the perfect places for people who love vintage vibes, sarcasm, and fighting for civil rights.
12:42
Abigail
If that sounds like somebody you know, head on over and grab a couple things. For obvious reasons, I have only been to Unlikely Professionals a couple of times since they've opened because they're still kind of new. But it is a really cool guy store. It definitely leans heavily millennial style, but that's kind of Raleigh's vibe, so I don't see the issue there. Especially since masculine focused stores aren't all that popular or common. So yeah. And then Edge of Urge, on the other hand, is one of my favorite stores to walk through and just like see what they have. Everything they carry is extremely fun and intriguing, like vintage pillows with cuss words on them and glitter pigments that are like really pigmented.
13:30
Abigail
Not to mention I have been dying to get one of their now famous reproductive rights or human rights shirts that they sell. Just by the way, if you get those, I'm pretty sure like 100% of the proceeds go to Planned Parenthood and they're really cute, so 10 out of 10 would recommend. And my only complaint is that they their clothes are a little bit pricey, but I don't know. It's still a really great store. I really love it.
13:54
Heidi
I know for a fact they carried like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, like, T shirts, like. Yes. Their faces at one point. So definitely advocate of that.
14:02
Emily
Yeah. I love that Abigail's giving like the best holiday gift guide.
14:06
Maha
Yes.
14:07
Emily
So, you guys, this is quality stuff. Like, this is. I'm glad because I'm also taking notes, like, where I should go. So.
14:14
Abigail
Yeah, it's so much fun. I love Edge of Urge has really cute jewelry options, which is really nice if you have people that like jewelry. I like it. And then like the. They have more of like the books and stuff that are really funny and like, I don't know if you've seen their pillows, but they have like the little pillows with like the funny sayings on them and they're like little grandma pillows. But like they throw you off because you read it and you're like, oh, I love those.
14:38
Heidi
I love those too. And books are such a great gift. Like, yeah, books, like the ones are just funny.
14:43
Emily
You're right.
14:44
Abigail
Yeah, exactly. It's so good.
14:46
Heidi
Okay, so we're going to start with a joke. What happens when a wildfires tells you a joke?
14:52
Abigail
What?
14:53
Heidi
You get burned.
14:54
Abigail
Oh, my God.
14:55
Emily
It's a good one.
14:57
Heidi
Anyways, our Cyclone center in Raleigh has been on fire for four days now.
15:01
Emily
Oh my God.
15:02
Heidi
It's not a wildfires.
15:06
Emily
Great segue.
15:08
Heidi
I'm sorry, I was trying to find jokes about fire because, like, I don't know, it's. I need to spice. I needed to spice it up. But. So the flames are visible from the i540 and ash has been laying on cars, which is how I first got noticed. So it was not intentional. Some stumps and mulch caught on fire at the recycling center and it just weird, I guess was not put out properly, but it has been contained and should be out within 24 hours. And that was earlier today. So, yeah. All calls that W R Al, which was the source I was using made to the facility have not been returned. So that's.
15:44
Emily
I think they have other. Other things they're occupied with at the moment.
15:47
Heidi
Yeah, I don't know. They haven't made any comment on the fire. And that's like, weird. Like people from the highway. It's. You don't burn not recycling facilities, do you? I don't think you do.
15:56
Emily
Well, I feel like recycling facilities, they.
15:58
Abigail
Do, but they're not just like out of control fires.
16:00
Emily
Yeah, but I know that like you can bring like those like light bulbs that have like lithium or whatever in them. Like you can bring like things that are flammable to a recycling facility because they have special ways of disposing it. So maybe like that's. I mean, if it really was like the tree or something, what was it?
16:15
Heidi
Like wood chips? Is it stumps?
16:17
Emily
Stumps and mulch? Like, maybe it was kind of also has to do with that.
16:21
Heidi
Like there's something else involved because stumps and molds don't just burn for four days straight.
16:26
Abigail
Yeah. And didn't it rain the past couple of days?
16:29
Heidi
Rained as well.
16:31
Abigail
Yeah, something definitely went wrong there.
16:33
Heidi
Yeah. But also no one has been hurt. I wouldn't have opened with a joke if someone got hurt.
16:39
Emily
Well, that's good. Hopefully they get it cleaned up.
16:42
Heidi
Yeah, hopefully they do actually put it out within 24 hours.
16:45
Abigail
It's all good.
16:45
Heidi
Yeah.
16:46
Emily
It's crazy that it was going on for four days.
16:47
Abigail
Two days is crazy. How did nobody. Well, I guess it was Thanksgiving.
16:52
Heidi
Like the air quality and like. Yeah, I did not hear anything about that. So that was interesting to me as well.
16:57
Emily
Yeah, that is interesting. All right, so I'm going to give you guys a little holiday tidbit. This is about WRL Knights of Lights, which is a partnership with the city of Raleigh and they're bringing it back for a third year in 2022. So basically what that is, if you don't know, it's a 1.3 mile drive through holiday light show in Dorothy Dick's park and tickets are on sale now. You need one ticket per vehicle. But one thing that I think they're. That's really cool that they're doing this year are like bike nights. So you can actually bike through.
17:27
Abigail
So if you.
17:29
Emily
Yeah, like, that would be really fun. Especially if I feel like recently it's been honestly kind of like warmer out than it. Like, I feel like we're hitting like a little warm front or something because like it was 60 today, which isn't that bad for like December almost. So yeah, if it's like a nice night out or you bundle up, like that would be really fun to go on your bike.
17:47
Abigail
That would be so through.
17:49
Emily
But yeah. And then they also are going to do a 5K and a fun run, which that would be fun to do, like go run through the. The light show. Oh my gosh. So that's fun. And you can drive through five magical lands which are Toyland North Pole, Neon Wild lights, Winter Wonderland and Santa's Village. So I thought this was really Cute. And I went to last year I went to like a drive through light show at the NASCAR speedway and it was really cool. And I've never been to one before and that was the first time but I loved it cuz it's just like so pretty and like you can like, I'm sure like you can listen to Christmas music while you're driving through and like go do something fun with your friends and like it's just a fun time.
18:30
Heidi
So yeah, also life hack, if you have like an open trunk, you can shove a ton of people in there, get your ticket for cheaper. More people will like see the lights, have a good time. And the light show, they are gorgeous. Usually like it's synced up with the music too. And that's really cool. And I would never be motivated to do a 5k but like maybe this time because running through the lights would be so pretty.
18:49
Abigail
That would be so cool.
18:51
Emily
Yeah.
18:51
Abigail
And I love the idea of the bikes especially because Dorothea Dix has the rentable bikes. So if you just got like your friends or your family together and rented some bikes like as the sun was going down, like right when it was kind of really perfect, that would be so freaking cute.
19:07
Emily
Yeah, I love that. So I think I might try and go. Maybe I'll try and like get like a big U haul and put a U Haul.
19:14
Heidi
What are you gonna do, drill holes in the sides?
19:19
Emily
Yeah, I mean just like load a bunch of people in the van, you.
19:22
Heidi
Know, I feel like, okay, maybe if it was like a clear U haul or like a truck bed, you could.
19:27
Emily
Just have everyone, those like things they put horses in like on the highway just put on my friend's trailer.
19:35
Heidi
People can like peer up through the little bars and put their hands.
19:38
Emily
These are great ideas for you guys. I hope you're listening.
19:42
Heidi
The trailer's gonna be too much to haul and you're gonna like take out several strings of bricks or something.
19:47
Emily
You know what, we'll cross that bridge.
19:49
Abigail
When we get there.
19:50
Heidi
You're right. You're right. Granadium.
19:52
Abigail
All right, so my last tidbit, I'm going to shout out Black Friday Market. Black Friday Market is a black owned business that sells clothes, art, the coolest earrings I have ever seen, and other small items like candles and locally made perfumes. I love going into this store especially when there are events going on downtown because they always have their doors open and sometimes live music and like, or they'll have like speakers or something and like the vibes are just amazing. In there at all times. Their accessories are super colorful and trendy, and they also carry things like lotions and scrubs. So Christmas shopping there is really easy and super fun.
20:31
Abigail
I know last year I was able to get a few gifts from them, and I will likely go again because I know I take my friends and family in there whenever we're downtown, and they're always oohing and ahhing. So very easy to get ideas.
20:45
Heidi
Lotions and scrubs are always, like, the best Christmas gift because, like, it's not generic, but it, like, it is, but it's still thoughtful, you know? So, like, I'm. I'm a bad. Like, I'm bad at buying gifts for people. So when I don't know what to get them, I always go through, like, the lotions and the scrubs, like, the body washes and stuff like that. So I bet those are good.
21:01
Emily
Yeah, that's awesome. What type of cool. You said coolest earrings you've ever seen. Like, what do they look like?
21:06
Abigail
So one of my friends is, like, an earring connoisseur, and she just loves crazy earrings. So a lot of them are, like, very colorful and, like, big danglies. Sometimes they're, like, trendy, just, like, shapes, but sometimes it'll be like, what are some. An example of what she has, like, the lightning bolts. What does she get? She got some, like, a couple years ago that were, like, really cool, like, milk jugs or something. Like, I don't even know. Like, the different items that people.
21:31
Heidi
Yeah, those are so cute.
21:32
Abigail
They're just, like, really unique. I think sometimes they have, like, the gender ones, like, different feminist ones type things. I don't know. They're just always really cool, and I love looking at them. A lot of them are big and flashy and, like, colorful. So I'm always just like, ooh, colors.
21:48
Abigail
That's cool.
21:48
Abigail
I also love dangles. So every time they have, like, fun, dangly earrings, I'm like, ooh, that's so nice.
21:54
Emily
Yeah, that's awesome. I feel like. Like, the. Like, I know so many people who are, like, really big earring people, and so that's, like, a good gift for, like, I feel like jewelry people love that type of stuff.
22:04
Abigail
Yeah. Especially if you have friends that, like extravagant earrings. I think they're a great place to get those.
22:09
Heidi
Right.
22:09
Abigail
Up next, Maha interviews Carina Earl.
22:15
All
Bye!
22:20
Brian Jurado
Up next, Maha interviews Carina Earl.
22:27
Maha
Hey, my name is Maha, and you are listening to Eye on The Triangle on Debbie KNC, 88.1 FM HD1 in Raleigh, here with Carina Earl, who is a local visionary and surrealist artist.
22:40
Carina Earl
Hi, Carina.
22:41
Maha
How are you doing today?
22:42
Carina Earl
Hey, Maha. Thanks for having me.
22:43
Maha
Yeah, absolutely. So I had some burning questions to ask you about your very talented art, and I just wanted to go ahead and get into that. So my first question is, can you explain if your art pieces are mentally or emotionally driven?
23:06
Carina Earl
That's a really good question. I feel like it's. I mean, I think all art is, like, kind of a combination of both of those things, but I think my work is much more mentally evocative than emotionally evocative. And I don't. Although emotion goes into it or it's. They come out of an emotional place, it's not really about emotions. But because my work means so much to me and all the concepts that I'm talking about in my work are important to me, it's a lot of emotion involved in the process, you know.
23:55
Maha
So it's like a mental peace. Right. Like, it's. Would you say like a journal almost?
24:02
Carina Earl
I would say possibly. Like, it's. It's kind of more of a story.
24:09
Maha
A story?
24:10
Carina Earl
Yeah. I think all of my work, they're all. They're all pieces of a long, very long story about the universe and life and the role of life in the universe.
24:24
Maha
Okay. And with that said, can you talk about the most difficult piece that you have ever had to make? Mm.
24:35
Carina Earl
It can be either difficult in terms of technicality or emotionally. And I would say there are definitely a couple of different pieces, but actually, the piece called Letting Go, which is. There's a girl in the center of a spider web, and the spider web looks kind of like neurons a bit, and she's walking out of an abyss of space, and she's got a man tethered to her with her web and with her webbing. And it's. It's ironic because I. I created that piece as a way to process my friend's death, but I end up. Because I made a work of art about it, I have to keep talking about it all the time.
25:37
Maha
Right?
25:38
Carina Earl
So, like, I. Sure, I did the piece to process it, but then I. It's. It's ironic because it's called Letting Go, but I can't let it go because I always have to talk about it. But I guess, to be honest, it was. It was one of the more technically challenging pieces too. It looks simple.
25:54
Maha
It's.
25:54
Carina Earl
It appears to be one of my more simple pieces, but the webbing, like, creating the web in that piece was insane. Like, just having to get this. Having to do a spiral and that. You know, usually if you draw a spiral, it's like in a flat kind of 2D way. But to make a 3D spiral and to make it all perfect and then all the little details that go into the webbing and catching the light in.
26:24
Maha
The web, you had to be a spider.
26:28
Carina Earl
I had to look at a lot of spider webs.
26:30
Maha
You had to look at a lot of. You did actually look at a lot of spider webs. Oh, wow.
26:34
Carina Earl
I was looking at, like, all the spiderwebs I could find.
26:37
Maha
That's beautiful. I noticed there's a theme between, like, nature and your work as well. So that kind of leads me into another question. So what fuels your visions? What kinds of visions do you have when you make your art or what comes prior to that? What is your process like with that?
26:57
Carina Earl
Yeah, so what I've been doing my whole life is basically, I've been meditating my whole life. And I. When I was a kid, I did not realize that's what I was doing, but. And I mean, I'm not sure if it's the right terminology, but I call them shamanic journeys.
27:19
Maha
What are shamanic journeys? So.
27:23
Carina Earl
So to me, like, I have to look up the definition.
27:26
Carina Earl
No, no.
27:26
Emily
Yeah.
27:27
Maha
What are they to you?
27:27
Carina Earl
Yeah, but to me, it's. It's like. Like I go into a meditation, and I. Rather than doing, like, the traditional form of meditation where you, like, you focus on your breath or you focus on something, and you try to allow all of the thoughts and emotions to just, like, roll over you.
27:51
Maha
And how is this different?
27:54
Carina Earl
This is different because it's very directed and intentional. So, like, I go into a meditation and I choose an image. And it's not like I'm choosing. I'm not focusing on that image.
28:08
Maha
I am.
28:11
Carina Earl
Seeing where that image is going to lead me, and I follow it. Oh, so you.
28:15
Maha
You look through portals?
28:17
Carina Earl
Yeah, so I.
28:18
Maha
That's.
28:18
Carina Earl
That's how I always start the shamanic journey is I open up a door or in my mind, a portal to another reality or another dimension. And what have you seen?
28:29
Maha
Carina?
28:31
Carina Earl
I have seen so many crazy things. I am. Like, I've told you before, I don't. I don't know if it's just my wild imagination or if it's something I'm really tapping into and I'm seeing.
28:42
Maha
Oh, it's totally real.
28:45
Carina Earl
But I feel that I have seen imagery. I guess I'VE seen life on other planets and in other realities. And actually a lot of times it feels like it's coming from a different time. Potentially future of futures within our galaxy or on our planet.
29:09
Maha
Do they look bright?
29:12
Carina Earl
Well, that's the thing. And that's how I often know or I guess get the clue that it's not wishful thinking or like a lot of the stuff that I see and a lot of the information I come to, it's. It's not necessarily good, it's not necessarily bad. It's just things that have happened or catalysts for change. Yeah. It's just. It's just different. Yeah. You know, and it's those, I guess those areas of the universe or those planets, they have their own problems just like we do.
29:49
Carina Earl
Yeah.
29:49
Carina Earl
And the future has its own set of problems that are different from ours, you know?
29:54
Maha
Yeah. Alien first world problems.
29:56
Carina Earl
Like alien. Alien first world problems.
30:00
Maha
Now, I'm personally curious. Have you ever seen things like deities like Mothingi or, you know, Moth or Hades or Aphrodite?
30:09
Carina Earl
I haven't really seen deities necessarily, but. Interesting. But there was this one time, and I wasn't even in a meditative state or anything. And I was just sitting at the edge the of my bed in the morning and I was just getting ready to get up and go about my day. And across the room there was this blue being that just appeared to me and it started coming over to me. And I don't know, I wasn't afraid or anything. I was just very curious. And it tapped me on my forehead. And in that moment, everything went blue. I went blue, the walls went blue, the floors went blue. My couch, my bed, like everything was blue. And you'll know from my work, like kind of about the time that happened because you'll start seeing a lot of blue beans in my art.
31:06
Maha
In one of my favorite pieces you've made where there is, I think, a girl holding something in a field, I think that was blue.
31:13
Carina Earl
Yeah.
31:14
Maha
Your more recent pieces also have blue beans as well. Yeah, it's almost.
31:17
Carina Earl
Almost like I.
31:18
Carina Earl
It's almost a compulsion.
31:19
Maha
Yeah.
31:20
Carina Earl
Ever since that happened.
31:21
Maha
Very interesting. Like how they're blue, like in Hindu culture.
31:26
Carina Earl
I mean, who knows what I'm seeing? I mean, maybe people in that area of the world have had a similar encounter as I have.
31:35
Maha
That's really cool though, because I have no idea what that could mean.
31:40
Carina Earl
I don't either. It was interesting.
31:42
Maha
It's absolutely interesting. I love it so much.
31:45
Carina Earl
It could mean that I am Looney Tunes.
31:47
Carina Earl
No, no.
31:49
Maha
If anything, everyone else is just really boring. Who disagrees?
31:53
Carina Earl
So that's good.
31:55
Maha
Where do you draw your influences from?
31:58
Carina Earl
My favorite artist, personally, is Remedios Barrow. She was a surrealist contemporary to Dolly, but, you know, Dolly, being a man, he got all the fame.
32:09
Maha
Right? Typical.
32:11
Carina Earl
And. But she's really brilliant surrealist artist. Her work is very deep. She works with a lot of metaphysical themes and occult themes, which I think is really interesting. But, yeah, definitely look her work up. Remedios Pharaoh.
32:29
Maha
Remedios Pharaoh.
32:31
Carina Earl
Remedios.
32:31
Maha
Remedios Pharaoh. Okay. Pharaoh.
32:34
Carina Earl
Varro.
32:35
Carina Earl
V A R O. But I mean, I think as far as, like, conceptually, my work is very influenced by nature and biology and also some studies in physics. I'm just very interested in how the universe works and how it's evolving. Absolutely.
32:56
Maha
Isn't that, like, so fascinating to. I mean, everybody?
33:00
Carina Earl
It's just.
33:00
Maha
Just absolutely great.
33:02
Carina Earl
Thanks.
33:02
Maha
I think your artwork really captures moments in a dream or moments in a journey, like a photograph from teleporting.
33:10
Carina Earl
I appreciate that. That's exactly what I'm trying to do.
33:13
Maha
Really.
33:13
Maha
Well, that really is a big compliment to me because I'm trying to auditorily explain what I take away from your art, which is what drew me to you in the first place and wanted. And drew me to want to do an interview with you. Because there is something so captivating and intentional about your art that it's not like a sticker. It's not a tote bag. It's not a shirt.
33:41
Carina Earl
It's.
33:41
Maha
It's. It is really a door. Your artwork, for me, is a door. And. Yeah. And so, like, when I look at your work, I mean, I appreciate art all around. I see the. The technical aspects of, like, different brushstrokes and, you know, all of these things. My only artistic, educational experience comes from watching Bob Ross. So I can't tell you too much. But what I will say is that, like, there's a lot of thought, emotion, and talent that goes into the things that you create. And there's just so many good colors. I love the colors, the use of colors. It's very interesting because I feel like.
34:26
Carina Earl
I struggle with color.
34:27
Maha
Really?
34:28
Maha
No, that's actually one thing that automatically attracts me to your paintings. There's such a contrast between bright and dark colors. It's like a very interesting polarity. It's another depth to the layer of your art. For me, it's like I'm looking at spider webs or I'm looking at an alternate universe, or I'm looking at Flying flashes of a movie that is made 50 years in the future or something. It's absolutely incomprehensible and incomparable. And I've always been a fan of your art, so it's really wonderful. Yeah. So another cool thing I wanted to talk about is usually artists who have such, you know, advanced and accelerated paintings have crazy life experiences. What are some cool, crazy, fun life experiences you've had as an artist?
35:21
Carina Earl
Yeah, so, I mean, there are a couple that come to mind that are probably the more wild ones, actually. I don't even know. There are so many crazy experiences from, I don't know, weird sex parties in San Francisco that I did not participate. Peyton, just to be clear.
35:40
Maha
Oh, okay.
35:42
Carina Earl
I guess to like observing live porn being shot in the Bay Area. Things get really weird there. But I. I think my two favorite experiences were which, like most of you Gen Z's will not know of this guy, Tom Green, but you would know of him as Drew Barrymore's ex husband. He was a very famous comedian in the 90s and he had a talk show and I was randomly invited to his talk show and ended up nude on national television. Fun. I won't draw out the whole. All the details of the story, but yeah, that was. That was insane. And also like one of my weird, wild experiences was I went to this. This crazy, like New Age gathering in Hawaii in the mountains. Deep in the mountains.
36:45
Maha
Yeah. And where one finds themselves.
36:49
Carina Earl
Yeah.
36:49
Maha
Casually wandering.
36:51
Carina Earl
Okay, exactly. But no, I just, I. I read this woman's book and I thought her work was really interesting and I just had to go experience one of her. Her gatherings. And she's only. She only did a very few of them. Very. She had a very clear plan about how many she was going to do. So they don't happen anymore, but basically, for several days out in the mountains, wearing all white, we practiced these like mudras and. And body. Mudras. Yeah, yeah. And body movements and like chanting and the whole intention was to open up portals of reality. And I had to go because I'm obsessed with portals. And so it was just. It was a very wild and weird experience. And I take all that kind of stuff with like a whole salt shaker full of salt.
37:48
Carina Earl
But there were most people, there were very. People who were there were really into it. And yeah, things got really weird. And I mean, just to be like. Just to be practicing things like the same thing over and over again for days and all wearing white and all out in the middle of nowhere with the same people. People like that's practically like, who needs mushrooms? Because that's some. That just was very out there experience.
38:21
Maha
Yeah. Being completely sober, sitting in a circle, drawing mudras with.
38:26
Carina Earl
Yeah.
38:27
Maha
People. That's. That sounds. I mean, honestly, that sounds like a dream come true to me. It's also really funny because I'm also imagining these people just going back to their job after doing that or something so tantalizing. You know what I mean? It's kind of like funny or ironic to me, but that's also incredible. I hope to find events like that. That'd be really cool following the pandemic. I'm sure that there's stuff like that.
38:53
Carina Earl
I'm sure I can find some of those things for you.
38:55
Maha
Let's go. Please send me. We could just do our own.
38:58
Carina Earl
Right, Right.
38:59
Maha
That'd be great. I mean, I've.
39:01
Carina Earl
I've also done. I've done medicine circles with Native American shamans as well, which I hope that I get to do that again.
39:11
Maha
So what pieces of your identity are important to you?
39:18
Carina Earl
Like, I struggle with identity also, I guess so. I guess that's the irony of it. I think one reason I do struggle with identity is because I have autism. And it's like, weird. You have autism, you have to create your identity. You don't just kind of have one. Seems like everyone else just already had one, you know, and I had to like create one from scratch. But so it feels to me like all I'm doing is just like this constant process of choosing who I am and. But like we were talking about before, I feel like the one thing that I can. Is say is consistent is that I guess I identify as a creator.
40:01
Maha
You are absolutely a creator, Carina. Absolutely.
40:04
Carina Earl
Yeah.
40:05
Maha
That's wonderful. And now can you tell the audience where we can find your wonderful art? Can you tell us if you're affiliated with any associations, production companies?
40:15
Carina Earl
Yeah, so there's a couple. Yeah. There are many places you could find my art and a couple of things I'm affiliated with. So yeah, you can please follow me on Instagram if you're not following me already. It's Arinaerlart. That's C A R I N A E A R L A R T. Or you can. You can also check out my website, www.Carinaearl.com.
40:44
Maha
And is your name the same across all social media handles or do you.
40:49
Carina Earl
Specifically pretty much like, it's pretty easy to find me if you know how to spell my name. It's on Instagram, Facebook, and like I said, my website which will pop up if you search for my name. All of those things will. And there's just so you know, I have a gallery space or a studio space at 311 Gallery, downtown Raleigh, so definitely come out for First Fridays. I don't know how long I'm going to be in that studio though, so definitely get there. Sooner the better. But also, I am the art director for Fractal Mind Electronic dance music collective in Raleigh. Come to their events, you'll find me there.
41:31
Maha
Do you update your social media to talk about what events you will be going to next?
41:38
Carina Earl
I haven't been so good at that, but it's my intention to get better. Probably the beginning of the year, I'll be really starting to dive into focusing on social media. I also wanted to say too, if there are artists out there that are interested in vending at a Drum a bass event, please look me up, reach out to me because I'm looking for artists to set up there.
42:00
Maha
Any artists that you're looking for like as far as the mediums go or just general artist vendors?
42:06
Carina Earl
Just general artist vendors. I mean I, I personally love all art of imagination, so psychedelic, surrealism, fantasy, sci fi, visionary. Like I mean I'm mostly looking for that kind of stuff, but I'm, it's not like I'm not open to other things and also you know, like jewelry making, like fashion designer types of crafts and things like that.
42:31
Maha
That sounds really great. Okay. Well, Carina, it's been so wonderful having.
42:37
Carina Earl
You on the show.
42:38
Maha
Thanks everyone for tuning in. See you next Sunday. Thanks Carina.
42:41
Carina Earl
Thank you so much.
42:43
Maha
Thanks guys.
42:46
Brian Jurado
That is all. For today's episode of Eye on the Triangle. I want to thank technician news editors Emily, Abigail and Heidi for their weekly news. I also want to thank Carina Earl for joining us on the program today. Hope you all have a lovely rest of your Sunday. Music for today's episode has been the Blackest Crow by Track Tribe, licensed under the YouTube audio library.