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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So when Trump got in, I think a lot of people in this nation thought, hey. Great. We're finally on track.
Speaker 1:We're gonna get rid of the IRS. Maybe we're gonna end the Fed. We're gonna get rid of mRNA and and the medicines, and we haven't really seen that stuff happening. There has been some progress. I'm not being a a, you know, Debbie Downer, but there's been some pretty core things that make me think that, we're not really as safe as a country as I would hope, especially if you can start getting into the AI and the AI infrastructure and Palantir, and that's a whole other can of worms that are not gonna be part of this show today.
Speaker 1:But one of the things is that I have always been in my a lot of my adult life, you know, try to be more prepared minded. Even, you know, say, eight years ago, when I was living in a high rise apartment in New York City, which is not a good place to be prepared. I even then, I still had a go bag, and I had freeze dried meals and all that kind of stuff. It's you know, now, you know, my wife and we live out in the country. We've got about seven acres.
Speaker 1:We've got gardens and goats and chickens and lots of food stored and all that kind of good stuff. And I think one of the things I'm seeing that concerns me is I think a lot of Americans have kind of put their feet up a little bit and thought, hey, everything's gonna be okay. But if you look at the recent kinda heightened discussions of World War three, the threats of AI, the threats of China, I mean, even just I think it was a couple the last couple of days, the FBI arrested some Chinese nationals that had brought in, like, some sort of, plant based pathogen that could have disrupted farming. So the the bigger picture is that I don't think that we're at a place where we can just relax, that we have to be very, mind you know, mindful about preparedness and self sufficiency. And, I'm still working on my book, and I've been talking about it for little while now, Prep Like Noah.
Speaker 1:The book is still being, it's still underway. It's actually it started off as a little ebook, and now it's becoming a much, much bigger project, which we're excited about, but that is gonna be coming out this year. So I'll keep you updated on that. But joining me today are two fantastic guys. They're Jordan and Nace Roberts, and they're just good old boys from this rural Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:And we're gonna be getting into their story of going from, you know, running a, you know, successful manufacturing business to the pandemic hitting and how they got into kind of orienting around preparedness, in a very serious way. And so we diving into all that and more in today's show, so please enjoy. Alright, mister Jordan and Nace Roberts. Thank you very much for joining us today. You guys are like I see you too, and all I think is good old American boys.
Speaker 1:So it's good to have you on.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having us.
Speaker 1:So I I wanna start with a little bit of the background of your story. Like, okay. You know, coming from manufacturing, your your lifestyle. So you guys are out in kinda rural Oklahoma living on fourth generation family land. In in many ways, I look at you guys as, like, the the real American dream.
Speaker 1:Like, the American dream is not to me, like, the, like, superb suburbia with the white you know, picket fence. It's multigenerational land as your core asset of your family being passed down, living off the land, farming, working with your hands, manufacturing. So, walk us through a little bit of your background because it's gonna really help inform our story because as we're entering into a time where I'm feeling very unsettled about where things are at right now in this country and around the world in terms of, like, where's our future going, taking a look at what I, again, believe is is the the the true core of what America is and your guys' lifestyle is really important for us in terms of helping people get back to that. So I'll just hand it over to you guys just to tell a little bit of your story.
Speaker 2:You wanna start? Yeah. If you want to.
Speaker 3:So where we started was we had a a father and a mother. And then, I mean, because it's No. No. Really?
Speaker 1:I did too.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So, I mean, it's kinda confusing nowadays.
Speaker 2:Well, that's yeah.
Speaker 3:So, I mean, for really true Americans, I mean, that's where we, you know, we've been on the same land for four generations.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:But it was all mothers and fathers.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Mean, but when when but when you go from there, yeah. So, what you're saying is that we we didn't have two dads, I think is what he was saying. And.
Speaker 2:We're too all too moms. And but really our grandpa was actually a farmer. So, that's what he did. So, we so we got to help him work the land. He had cattle out here.
Speaker 2:He was growing tomatoes and just everything that you can think of. So we're out here picking them and pruning them with our grandpa. You know he was a six foot four tall guy getting down there and getting in the dirt. And man, just one of the best men that we've ever known. And my dad, he was actually, he was in manufacturing.
Speaker 2:So he started working for for people and he ended up rising up to the ranks. He didn't have a college education and he ended up splitting off and starting his own manufacturing company which was out of the back of his garage. And I think
Speaker 3:It it was a dirt floor.
Speaker 2:It was a dirt floor. There was I think it was his first house is $11,000. You know? So way so way back in the day, he built a barn in the back, and he started this little manual machine shop and he just started drumming up work and that grew into what we are today where we do CNCs. He brought us both in.
Speaker 2:There's actually a time where his his tax guy just really boogered things up and a diarist came in hard and heavy, started making threads saying they're going to take everything and and so he actually brought me and Nace in to come in and help and just really, I ended up becoming like the head mill guy. He ended up becoming the head lathe guy. So we kind of grew up underneath him learning how to manufacture. And then we took it a step further where we started learning how to program. So now we do all of our own programming in house and and it anyways, I think jump forward, dad was like always a sensitive guy, and he always knew that, I guess, I guess more like sensitive to the holy spirit.
Speaker 2:And he always knew that something was coming. Hey. We needed to prepare. Right? And we needed to start doing something.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, he got sick with stage four stomach cancer. What was it? Thirteen years ago now.
Speaker 3:About twelve years. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Twelve twelve twelve years ago now. And so that was a very quick process where we had to go from being the guys in the shop to being the guys in the office, being the face of the company, and learning all the things that that dad was taking care of, right? And he was he he always had he he had this famous quote was we can always do it someday. Right? And so there's a there's a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, but there's unfortunately not a someday.
Speaker 2:So sometimes, like, when we have that motto, things don't get done because we're thinking, hey, we always have tomorrow. We we can always get things done. And so the things that he wanted to get done didn't get done, but he left us with the resources that allowed us to start doing those things. So when we go to the global pandemic, two weeks to slow the curve, and we're in Costco or wherever no one can find toilet paper, people are fighting people for toilet paper. We're like, Houston, we have a problem.
Speaker 2:This this is not looking good. And so we started doing the thing. We started buying deep freezers. We started buying anything we could put in them. It was just a mad dash to grab calories and whatever.
Speaker 2:Right? And Yeah.
Speaker 1:I remember at that time going to Costco early on, and you get their, their ground beef. It came in like sheets. Like, you get, like, a, like, a pack of, like, eight one pound things all connected. And I'm going there just filling my cart with ground beef thinking, okay. If I can I can freeze this, I went and got I had, like, three different deep freezers, and I'm thinking, okay?
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna freeze everything, and this is gonna be the solution, which I mean is I'm actually still eating some of that beef. Right. So but yeah. So, basically so then you you were machinists, and and you you ran a manufacturing company. Your dad, you know, he passes.
Speaker 1:You step in, take much more of the management role of the company instead of the kind of the the skilled labor role of the company. Right? And then, you know, pandemic hit, shook everyone's world upside down, and that's when something clicked in you. So you went through this process of kind of, like, the the mad rush that I think the people that saw it, like, early on in summer, like, in the very early on of of the pandemic, there were people that like, Costco wasn't that crazy. Everyone was going for toilet paper.
Speaker 1:Like, I you could still go and get a lot of food, and that's what we were doing too. And you could still go get there'd be pallets of rice and everything, and people are still, you know, out there. They're kinda fighting over Froot Loops. And it's like, well, that's not gonna help you very So so what what was that transition like when, pandemic hit? You guys are problem solvers.
Speaker 1:Like, I know a lot of machinists. You know, I I've I'm not a machinist myself. Like, I I love building things. I love building a chicken coop or whatever it is I need to do. It's all about problem solving.
Speaker 1:Right? It's like, okay. Well, I don't a a 16 foot board for that, but how can I still make do with these two eight foot boards and the right kind of brace? Right? So Right.
Speaker 3:How did
Speaker 1:that how did that problem solving then shift into what you saw happening with the world and how can you protect your families?
Speaker 2:So we kinda went after it at a couple different directions. It's how do we create some type of self sustain where we can sustain ourselves on our own property. So we looked at greenhouses and all kinds of stuff like that. So we started manufacturing greenhouses. We actually still can today.
Speaker 2:It's American made greenhouses of what it is, but we, you know, we've done some for pastor Dave Scarlett. We've done stuff for Clay Clark. So we've done a lot of these greenhouses where people are like, hey, it's gonna take like two years to get me a greenhouse. Can you guys design something to manufacture for us and put it up? And we're like, yeah, we can do that, you know.
Speaker 2:The shop was slow at the time because every everything going on, we had companies that we had consignment at to where we had hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars of consignment and they locked us out of the building. Yeah. But they continued to use our product and then continued not to pay us. So we're like, man, this is not looking good, guys. So we went, did greenhouses, we did the whole deep freezer stuff, and then the first power outage, we're like, oh gosh.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. We have another problem now. We don't have enough generators nor enough on hand or gas to sustain this. So, we're like, we have to look at this from a different angle and that's where we started looking at freeze drying.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Mean, at that time, you start seeing blackouts on the West Coast. You saw some on the East Coast. You saw the ice storm in Texas. Right.
Speaker 3:And then we're like, oh, that won't happen to me and all of a sudden, we had a bad storm here and we're out probably ten or so days and and if you have a deep freezer, I mean, sometimes that only lasts what was it? Like forty eight hours. Forty eight
Speaker 2:hours. Yeah.
Speaker 3:If you have a free or you know, regular fridge, twenty four hours. Yeah. Depends what you have in there and so, we bought all these generators, all the gas. I mean, it was a mad rush. And it's kind of one of the things as we learn, dad always said, basically, get her done or gumption.
Speaker 3:So, we grew up kind of like, you know, the Bible always says when we're preaching it to ourselves and our kids is the way you train up your child is the way they won't forget it. They're going to do it. You're planting seeds somehow in their life. So, he was really, dad was an entrepreneur in a way. Had a trash business, had a valve business, traded land for all this different stuff.
Speaker 3:He was adopted. So, he never grew up about, you know, around really good influencers, no social media back then to learn this stuff. He just had that because he came from nothing. So, he taught us, it's okay to lose stuff like, you know, when we go to heaven, you're not taking anything but what we what we can do is actually elevate ourselves here because when we elevate and we have the money or we have the the finances or the land, we can actually bless other people. So, kind of like, I would say now, we didn't know what we didn't know but we also have that seed planted in our life and so, once we saw that power go out here, you know, our neighbors are like, we're we're storm, you know, storing everything in our sellers like, what did they do in the old days?
Speaker 3:Okay. The sellers, the books are gone. Nobody can find what book, you know, like, how do you prep those ways? Using salt or dehydrating your meat with a, you know, fire. And we we started teaching ourselves actually the things that's always been done.
Speaker 3:You know, back in old days, they didn't have the ACs and we're we're so spoiled. We forget, it's so luxury. It's so convenient but we forgot about how to actually do it the the way grandpa did
Speaker 2:it. Right. And I and I I think that I think that's part of the the the trick is that we're we're trained and taught, you know, that Amazon Prime two day deliveries like the thing. Like, we we like we live in this convenient culture and we can no longer take care of ourselves. It's something that we quickly found out.
Speaker 2:It's like, man, there there was a book that became extremely popular. It's called Light The Lost Ways. It's like things that people have done for hundreds of years to take care of themselves and to make sure that their families were surviving, right? And so but we came across this tech technology called freeze drying and so we bought, you know, free freeze dryers for us and we ended up meeting the the this rancher that raised the beef the way that we wanted it. Yep.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And and so but it was all organic grass fed, grass finished, no no vaccines, and this was all for us because this is what we wanted to put in our body. And so we ended up getting hooked up with him, and he provided all the beef we needed. Word kinda got around what we were doing, and friends and family and business, friends came came around and they're like, so how do I get you guys to do this for me and my family? And so me and Nace were kind of thinking it's like, well, I guess we could do that.
Speaker 2:Maybe, you know, we're just thinking about ourselves but maybe there's a bigger purpose here. Maybe we need to be looking at how we can be helping other people. And so that's how Grid Down Chow Down was born. And and so we've we've been doing that for, I don't know, how long now.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Going on two years. I mean, the way it worked and the way god works, it literally just took off on, you know, one one day, just boom. I mean, a lot of lot of cells right right when we launched it. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:And we couldn't done it ourselves. And I would say, during that point, you don't know what you don't know is all the meat that we bought has a expiration date because there's preservatives in it and even then, we're like, oh, our Roman noodles are going bad. Yeah. Or our our rice now have little mites in it. You know?
Speaker 3:Like, even though we protected it or, other things that have sugars are you know, you can't eat them now. You can't consume them now.
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Speaker 3:And then, Jordan and I were, you know, during that time COVID, a lot of things were shut down. The biggest things were a lot of people started, drinking a lot. So liquor stores were open, and people started golfing a lot. Yeah. And so we're like, hey, let's start golfing more.
Speaker 3:And so at that time, we realized we had some injuries. And we're like, how do we prevent this? How do we get better? And then we saw who's a carnivore guy? Sean Baker.
Speaker 1:Sean Baker.
Speaker 3:So and so we're like realizing and deep diving and kinda going a rabbit hole about, you know, god created meat for us at the beginning and then we start eating it and realizing we went on it for, like, what? Like year. Yeah. I mean, for a long time and realized our bodies were healing once we weren't using the preservatives. Weren't weren't we using the pesticides that are in most The pesticides.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The vaccines. And so actually I have a really good verse. And we all started making sense because then you start tying what we're taught social media to what conflicts to the Bible. It doesn't, you know, and then you're like, okay.
Speaker 3:Now, there's a bigger agenda. So, in first Timothy four three in the King James version. Now, if you go to the other versions, it just says, it doesn't say the right words. So, the King James is talks about forbidding to marry which they're doing that. Like, hey, let's marry the same spouse or you can't.
Speaker 3:The the same gender. Yeah. And commanding to abstain from meats and you're like, oh, that's interesting and then, you basically, it goes on and on about it for god created or for every creature god is good and nothing to refuse if it is to be received with Thanksgiving. So, it starts talking about that and we start communicating. We're like, but we feel so much better when we just eat meat.
Speaker 3:Right. We feel and, know, like and then the world say no, but you're gonna have high cholesterol. And then Sean Baker start doing all these studies and then Joe Rogan and debunking all this stuff. And then all of a sudden, people are getting cured of diabetes. People are getting cured of, you know
Speaker 2:Autoimmune disease.
Speaker 3:Autoimmune. Yeah. Lyme disease is like, oh, how you can't fix that. It's always in your blood. Now, are getting fixed by it because your body's actually self healing the way it was.
Speaker 3:So, that's kind of where we really start pushing meat but also how can we do some conserve it, not only conserve it without anything in it without vaccines or preservatives. Mhmm. But now we can actually, the way we're we're doing it, it preserves all the minerals in it, all the iron.
Speaker 2:Yep. All all the nutrients, all the vitamins, all that stuff. So when when we started freeze drying it, we were like, you know, we're we're gonna do this raw. It's not gonna be
Speaker 3:We didn't even know about that that people were having problems doing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And so we're like, we're gonna do this raw so that we can use it however we want to when we need to use it. Right? And I believe that we were the first on the market that that that was doing it raw. We weren't even trying to be the first at anything.
Speaker 2:It just so happens that that's just how things were working out at the time. But, you know, with with how how we do it, you know, it'll get a ten to fifteen year shelf life completely raw. So when you rehydrate it And and it It brings out back all the blood, all the all the fat, everything. And so you can make a medium rare hamburger. You could, you know, just anything.
Speaker 2:So
Speaker 3:I mean, when we first tried it, I think it's really when you think about is it god's plan or not. When we first tried it, everything was like perfect. And then we're like, okay. Let's let's start changing a few different ways and whatever. And then we were like, it wouldn't work.
Speaker 3:And we started hearing other companies in Texas that were trying it and it wouldn't work. And we realized the way we did the first time actually worked. It's not just get a freeze dryer and
Speaker 2:put meat in. Yeah. I I believe it was divinely inspired the way we did it first. It wasn't it wasn't because we're smart or intelligent or because we have great beards like you. It was just because god just inspired it.
Speaker 2:He just he just poured it out, you know, And so just luckily, you know, just being in his will, you know, things just worked out the way they were supposed to.
Speaker 1:So some of this it's interesting your story how similar is to my story because I went through that same process, and then I ended up getting a freeze dryer. Right? But for me, actually, of the drivers was eggs Because Okay. At that time, we had, like, 50 chickens for a family of three. So Wow.
Speaker 1:That's hilarious. Getting, you know, 35, 40 eggs a day, which was, like, way too many. So I started water glassing. Right? Which I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with water glassing eggs.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:You you use a preserving lime in glass jars. And before I knew it, I had, like, five gallon buckets lined up of, like, water glassed eggs, but water glassing only has a shelf life of, you know, one to two years or so. And I was thinking, okay, there's got to be a different way. So then I've got into freeze drying. But I wanted before we jump into kind of the specifics of freeze drying, so I wanna focus on that.
Speaker 1:Like, taking a step back, like, when I look at when I look at America, and you guys kind of mentioned, you know, the the the fragility of life. And I brought this book, The Lost Ways, right, which is interesting. It says the, SHTF we all prep for is what folks one hundred and fifty years ago called daily life. No electrical power. No refrigerators.
Speaker 1:No Internet. No computers. No TV, etcetera. And and that's I think that's kinda what it is. So one of my kind of I do a lot of work on the property or whatever, I always got the audiobooks and podcasts.
Speaker 1:And my favorite genre of audiobooks is the, you know, kind of the, like, fiction stories of people living in post collapse scenarios. Like, not like zombie apocalypse, but realistic scenarios of grid down, that kind of stuff happening. Everything okay on your end?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. Okay. So make sure. Okay. And so but, you know, one thing you realize is that there's a book there's a book called, one second after by a guy named William Ford.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure if you've read it before, but it's about a EMP attack. And he he uses this analogy, and I thought it was so good. He says, basically, that, like, life in America is like it's just like a fragile, tropical plant living in a greenhouse. It's like that plant can only survive with the perfect conditions, with with shelter, with everything. And if if if there's any one scenario that, like, prevents that greenhouse from operating, that plant's dead.
Speaker 1:And and I look at, you know, America now, like, I I don't think and I think it's by design. I don't think our country has ever been in a place where humans have such a poor ability to survive. Like, we've never been this vulnerable, where a lot of people if they don't get their meds every day within a week, they're either losing their minds, or they're they're dying. Right? Couple of weeks.
Speaker 1:That's one thing. People have we've lost the ability. People don't know that, like, oh, yeah. Like, in a collapsed scenario, one of the leading causes of death is diarrhea because everyone starts drinking you know, they they they don't have water stored, so they're drinking from the creek. Well, there's a dead cow up the creek, and now they've got a a disease, and now they've got parasites, and they're and they're just there.
Speaker 1:They're pooping their guts out until they die. Right? So, like, our country is is so fragile. Like, so fragile. And and I've I've done, you know, a lot of research into this, and even to, like, the experts say that if there's, say, a grid down scenario in America within the first year, between seventy five and ninety percent of all people are dead.
Speaker 1:Like, that's like, that's what we've got to. Like, we've gotten to a place where how is it that a hundred years ago, if the grid went down, nobody would die. Right? You know, pretty much. Or you may say a hundred and fifty years ago.
Speaker 1:Like, it's like, oh, okay. Some houses had electricity, but a lot of them didn't. They just survived. But we've become so dependent on these modern systems that if those modern systems are removed, we have no idea how to survive. Like, don't know how to can, don't know how to preserve meat, don't know how to hunt or trap, don't know how to, you know, go go go in your backyard and find herbal remedies for sicknesses or any of these things.
Speaker 1:Like, we've become such a fragile country.
Speaker 2:Right. If you I I have some numbers here for you. You're you're talking about a hundred and fifty years ago. You know, when we when we do what we do, we're like teaming up with farmers and ranchers for a specific reason because we know that the food supply chain is actually really fragile. And we actually export out a lot of our, you know, beef and stuff like that to other countries.
Speaker 2:But
Speaker 3:Not not us.
Speaker 2:Not not us. No.
Speaker 3:But United States.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about United States. Yeah. But when you go back to 1825, okay, there was 72% of the population were farmers and ranchers. And that's about 8,600,000, and 3.4 were not. Let's go to 1875.
Speaker 2:58% were farmers and ranchers, and 42% was not. And the and the population there was 15,000,000 were farmers and ranchers. 1925, we're gonna jump ahead a little bit. 41% were farmers and ranchers, and that's 20,000,000 now. And 29.5 was not.
Speaker 2:Nineteen seventy five, 26% was farmers and ranchers. So we're starting to go down quickly here. Go to February '15, Only 12% were farmers and ranchers. That's 19,800,000. And the other 88%, that's a 145,000,000 are not farmers and ranchers at a time.
Speaker 2:Let's go to 2025. Now these numbers are pretty impressive. Only point seven per by the way, only point 2% of America is now farmers and ranchers. The other 99.8% is not. So when you look at that percentage, it's point 7,000,000.
Speaker 2:And so, I guess, 700,000 yeah. And then on the non farmers and ranchers, it's 360,000,000 people. So you got you got less than point 2% of American population feeding the other 99.8% of America. That's a fragile place that we shouldn't be at and we that should be scary for people when they look at those numbers. And that's what we see.
Speaker 2:And so we're like how do we make sure we have life insurance. We have car insurance, we have, you know, we have all kinds of insurance for the things that we want to protect.
Speaker 3:Phone insurance.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. IPhone insurance but we don't have food insurance. The average person has just a couple of days of food in their house. And that was including us pre pandemic until it woke us up and we're like, Houston, we have a problem.
Speaker 2:Like, we're not okay right now. Like, we're not in a safe place to take care of our family and we gotta do something about it and right now, at least we have the opportunity because the next time something like this happens, we may not get the chance to recover and to do the things we should have been doing.
Speaker 3:And I think most, you know, there's a lot of Christians and believers and it depends on what your doctrine was taught, you know, like, whether it's once save, always save, or you know, god will always provide, you know, and there's always a good a story. I think it was, you know, maybe grandpa told us but it was like, there's a flood and the guys end up going to his roof because there's a flood and then, you know, somebody comes by offers help offers help in a boat. He says, no, god's going to provide and so, another boat comes by and he and the water's getting higher and they say, hey, you want some help? He was like, no, god's going to provide And then so finally, he's up to his neck and the water on the roof.
Speaker 2:Why? I think there's a helicopter.
Speaker 3:The helicopter comes by. Yeah. He has, hey. Do you need help? And then he goes, no.
Speaker 3:God's gonna provide.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And so, you know, he dies. And so when he's in heaven, you know, everybody says, what's the first question you're gonna ask, you know, god? He goes, god, why didn't you save me? Why didn't you provide? He goes, I sent help three times.
Speaker 2:I sent a boat. I sent a helicopter.
Speaker 3:But you never took it. Right? Right. And I think some people aren't so naive. They don't really realize what's in front of them, what's happening because they're they're going off of emotion and not actually the calling.
Speaker 2:And I I I think for us, one of these things that we're looking at the Bible whether it be Old Testament, New Testament, you know, especially when you're looking at at the New Covenant. There's a couple things I'm looking at of god providing there and you know, it's not the Old Testament where god's just raining manna down these days. You know? It's just not. God works differently now because he gave us the authority.
Speaker 2:But usually when god provides, especially in the New Testament, he either works with something that you already have like the fish and the loaves and he multiplies it. Right? Or he gives you a call to action and tells you to go do something. Hey, stretch out your hand. You wanna be healed?
Speaker 2:Stretch out your hand. You wanna be healed? Walk to the waters. Go wash your eyes. So there's either an action like a call to action or he uses something you already have that you're offering up as a sacrifice or you're or you're offering up for him to to multiply and so that's kind of our mindset is one, we're going to we're going to do the call to action.
Speaker 2:We're to do the thing that he asked us to do, first of all, and second of all, we're to have something on hand that he can use and that he can multiply. And that's basically our mindset is to have something he can use and to obey what he tells us to do.
Speaker 3:And I think I think what's more important is during the rush in the 2020, we did a lot of things more so out of fear. Yeah. Because it's the first time we've ever been in that situation. And then at some point, you know, me and my wife were like, we can't keep doing this. Spiritually, we didn't feel right.
Speaker 3:We're like, nope, we're not going to spend any more money. We're we're going to actually just seek the spirit. Like, god, what do you want? And I think all of a sudden, when we really surrendered, we were like, hey. We'll go where you want us to go.
Speaker 3:We'll move if we gotta move. Whatever we gotta do, we'll buy or we'll store food if you want us to store food. It it was a mind shift because we now we weren't doing out of fear. So now when we we're doing the meat, it's like, we're going to use this whether it's now. We use it all the time, daily, or we're to use it in fifteen years and then we're like, since we're not doing it out of fear, we felt, I felt like a relief and that's why we're kind of what we're doing.
Speaker 3:It's it's a it's a today thing. It's for you can use it for animals. We know what's in it. It's for the future and also more importantly, what we had and I think we sent you guys some of these but salvation tracks. We're like, how do we actually make this a different product?
Speaker 3:A different company. A different company also in alignment with the god's calling because ultimately, it's share his word. Share his promises and but also don't do it out of fear. So, that's
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I mean, when when when we're thinking like, how do we turn it in this into a kingdom business? Yeah, we're giving people meat in a really healthy meat and a really amazing meat. How do we use this like for his glory later and it's like we're thinking it's just like, man, there's gotta be a way that people can make a decision about Jesus at the end. You know, like, whatever people believe about the Bible, whether there's a pre trip, mid trip, whatever the heck. It doesn't really change the fact that that Jesus is the only way.
Speaker 2:And so we're like, you know, the quickest way to a man's heart is to is is his stomach. Dude, like, we gotta have salvation tracks in these bags because whenever we're gone, dude, this could reach millions of people and we're not even here anymore. We're just we're just we're just planting seeds all over the planet right now. So, I mean, people are gonna like people like churches have it in their pantries. This is great for disaster relief because it weighs nothing.
Speaker 2:You know? So, I mean, these things, like, we're we're trying to get these these things all over the planet, you know, for for people to have now but also for people to have later whenever whenever they whenever they need the answer, you know?
Speaker 3:I think the real confirmation of what we when we did that transition. Yeah. I mean, you know, because you don't know what you don't know. There's a lot of times like we've been praying for healing or certain things in our businesses to come to pass. Well, you know, god's a god of yes and amen but also sometimes it takes time And so sometimes it's like, okay.
Speaker 3:I mean, there's things coming to pass right now but we've been praying for for what? And.
Speaker 2:A lot of years.
Speaker 3:Through, you know, about two or three years but then we change our mindset. We're like, god, thank you for this to come. It's coming. Thank you. Your word isn't, you know, I'm not going to dwell in the same prayers and and do it over and over.
Speaker 3:It's like, no, I'm speaking things for it. I'm speaking life already. So, we're as we're doing that, the salvation tracks. We had so many people start calling our call centers. People would talk to us for hours on the call center and it was all alignment.
Speaker 3:All over United States, People would be like, you know why I'm buying this? Because when I'm gone, my house is will be the storehouse. People will come to my house and my neighbors don't know god. My my my grandson doesn't know god but they see this, then, they can actually possibly get saved by what they're they're doing and we're like, man, this is like, we started hearing that story after story and we're like, gosh and we, I mean, all it started lining up. A lot of people were doing it not because of fear,
Speaker 2:but because of They're investing.
Speaker 3:They're investing of their communities or or the neighbors.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We actually heard the other day from a guy. He he he took one of our he took one of our smaller bags. This is a pound of meat in here. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And he sent it to his buddy because he's getting ready to go camping with his kid.
Speaker 3:And he's and he's a pastor.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, our our our buddy is, but his friend is a non a non
Speaker 3:He was atheist.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. And so he and and and the guy completely he didn't even send it to, like, hey. I'm gonna silently attack you with the salvation. Right?
Speaker 2:But but he just sent it just for him to have. You know? And he he calls him. He said, he he had a few choice words. He's, you know, are you be be be be kidding me, you know?
Speaker 2:And he's like, what? He said, is the meat bad? He said, no. It's the best meat I've ever had. He said, dude, he said, I've been running from god my whole life and he keeps chasing me.
Speaker 2:He's like, in the middle of the woods, he comes after me. He said he said, I just turned my life over to god. And and he got saved in the middle of the woods because of because some freeze dried meat in the salvation track.
Speaker 3:Yep. I mean, he was basically he goes, before he opened it, he goes, god, if you're real
Speaker 2:Give me a sign.
Speaker 3:Give me a sign.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And he opens his meat, and there's his sign falls out. Right. Exactly. A little postcard that says, here's god. Right.
Speaker 1:So I I I just had a question. So I think that you two and I've met you. We we actually, funny enough, we were hanging out at Clay Clark's house together of all places, which is which is fun. Wild wild, you know, wild experience. Anything anything with Clay is just kind of, like, unhinged.
Speaker 1:Right? I've been. So but, you know, my sense of both of you is that you're very, very, like, very close to God. Like, your your lives are very aligned around your faith and your your mission, which is beyond this world. When you of tap into your own intuition and you look around the country right now, what is your feeling?
Speaker 1:Like, do you think that we're at a place where there's a lot of security? Like or what is your gut telling you if you're sitting down thinking, okay, what's the next five years look like? I know you know it as a crystal ball, but Right. What what does your gut tell you where things are at right now?
Speaker 2:I think the thing that worries me is that not that Trump is in office at all, but the problem is is that I think people are putting too much trust in a man, and they're not really looking at the timeline of the bible. If you read the bible at all, you know, there's a lot of things that are happening around the world, whether it be AI, whether it be, you know, we're looking at, you know, eventually the like the collapse of the dollar people are moving away from the from the from the from from the standard of the dollar. People are starting to refuse it and so, I see Christians putting their feet up a little bit. So it's a little concerning because the other team does not do that. They're always on attack mode, and they're not just attacking one angle.
Speaker 2:They're attacking every angle simultaneously at the same time. So I think I think that's a little concerning that people put that much faith in a man because the only man should be Jesus that we put the faith in. The only way to course correct is is is a turning back to god. That is the only solution here. Whether it puts off you know, whether the turning back or a revival pushes us out another hundred years, two hundred years, three hundred years, no one really knows.
Speaker 2:But the thing is is that there's no stopping what's gonna come at some point. You know, god's already told us he's coming back. Things are unfortunately gonna get worse. You know? And that was even what Trump said.
Speaker 2:He said, hey. Listen. This is my plan. I'm gonna tell you right now, it's gonna get worse before it gets better. And he has no idea on that timeline.
Speaker 2:And, you know, he's like, farmers and ranchers, I love you guys. You know, my heart goes out, yada yada. But unfortunately, it's gonna get worse before it gets better. I don't know how worse it can get to get rid of that 2% of the American population that's farming and ranching but if it's going to get worse, it's going to make it extremely difficult to even hang on to that 2% of the population. That that's kind of where I'm looking at things but you got you got big global events like the red heifers in Israel that are ready for sacrificing, you know?
Speaker 2:So, you got you got a lot of different angles. I think people need to be a little bit more concerned about not what's in the White House but prophetically, what is happening in the Bible that's aligning up?
Speaker 3:What what's happening in god's house?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I think for me personally, you have three groups you know, but for not the first group but okay, so you, the first group is demonic, right? The atheist or the non believers and they're going to push that agenda no matter what and I was listening the other day on the radio because sometimes I'm I'm we're always listening and you know, our own music nowadays. We don't have tape players. We don't have CDs. We don't have to fast forward.
Speaker 3:It's really easy to do that. I was like, you know what? Sometimes I just want to support the local radio station. And so I was listening to K Love. No, Air One.
Speaker 3:I was listening to Air One. They're like, I have a question. Why is atheist always upset when you talk to god if it if they don't believe in god? Like, why does that upset them? I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3:That's a good point. Like, because, you know, it doesn't make sense. So you have that type of group that's always pushing agenda and for whatever reason, they're atheist but they're trying, they're still pushing the evil agenda because they think it's fun to flirt, you know, flirt with the fire. Then, you have, I think you have the Christians, right? You have the the lukewarm Christians.
Speaker 3:I think those are people that are putting their feet up because now they're comfortable. Their jobs are good. They're they're getting the money back. A guy, you know, like years ago during COVID, they're about to have a baby and you know, they're living really, really well. All of a sudden, they can't make house payments.
Speaker 3:So, you know, I jump in, give them house payments. They're about to have a baby, give them, you know, six months of diapers. Now they're going to, I would say, I wouldn't say a lukewarm church, but I would say it's just very basic. Just scraping the the surface. I mean, might get saved there but you're not going to actually see the power of the words and the healing that god has for you.
Speaker 3:Then, I think you also see the people. You have another group that everybody can fall into it is almost a revival that's happening. So, COVID wasn't just United States. It was worldwide. So, what's weird to me and it's kind of alarming.
Speaker 3:Now, you have people across the whole world that are praising Trump, okay? Talks about the Bible, one world government. Who is that person? What could lead to that? Not it's a certain person but we don't know but now, I'm thinking, oh, now, there's possibilities.
Speaker 3:Okay. One world currencies, whatever that might be. The other day, I was at at a gas station yesterday, and the Wi Fi goes down. We think Wi Fi is infinite. It's always there.
Speaker 3:But when it goes down, you can't use credit cards. So everybody in the store can't buy nothing because there's no Wi Fi. And can you can only buy if you have cash when there nobody carries cash.
Speaker 2:Carries cash no more. Nobody
Speaker 3:carries cash. So I think you have others then you start seeing overseas. We have really you know, we have friend we're friends with Steve Chicken Latte. We're friends with, you know, Shuttlesworth. We're friends with you know, Doctor Rodney Howard Brown and we, that was only through COVID and we see the revivals that's happening there across the world.
Speaker 2:Millions of people are getting saved, right?
Speaker 3:Millions. So, I I see that revival is happening if you're wanting to step in there. I'm seeing atheist. I'm seeing, you know, now Joe Rogan's attending church regularly. You know, he's a huge and you know, entrepreneur but you start seeing people switching groups and I'm to say, I mean, you know, I I see people that are atheists that you said, that one guy, he got saved because now he fills a presence.
Speaker 3:And then now you have people that are getting lukewarm again. And, you know, that's not where you wanna be. And then what it says in the Bible, like
Speaker 2:When when when you look at everything going on now, what are some of your concerns?
Speaker 1:How long do you have? Well yeah. Because I'm glad it's fun it's funny to kinda be the person that gets asked the question,
Speaker 3:because I'm only
Speaker 1:asking the question. Go, okay, what's the next question? How do I gosh. I mean, honestly, like, I'd probably say my biggest concern, if I was to quantify it, is technocracy, is AI driven mass surveillance state, social credit system, central bank digital currency, basically being ruled by technology. And, you know, what I've seen, you know, is what is it?
Speaker 1:The road to hell is paved in good intentions. You look at Trump getting in, and okay. Hey. Great. There's this this revival happening of pro America, god bless America.
Speaker 1:You know, Trump has his own bible that he's releasing with Lee Greenwood that they put out. And there's there's some great stuff happening, but what I also see is a lot of Trojan horses. I see, magically, the entire lineup of, like, the big tech CEOs, the Silicon Valley CEOs, all behind Trump now, which, you know, in my own kind of opinion and through my own research, you know, big tech Silicon Valley is a front for the alphabet agencies. Right? Like, know, Facebook wasn't some magical story of this little guy in his garage, you know, that built this massive thing.
Speaker 1:It's like, no. It was it was a government you know, the the you know, before that, it was it was a government, you know, kind of operation. I think it was a DARPA operation. It was called Life Log that, you know, gets shut down the very day that Facebook started. So think that what we've been sold is all of these, unicorn tech companies, which actually, I think, are part of this massive deep state apparatus to collect our data and use it against us.
Speaker 1:Right? And then then bring in AI, and to build a control grid. So that's one of the big things I see. I'm very concerned about the poisoning and the genetic modification of the human race, you know, whether what they're spraying in the skies, what they're putting into our food. I I think that what they're doing, especially here in America, like with what they've been feeding us and what they've been injecting into us since childhood, these are things that I believe will be affecting us for generations upon generations.
Speaker 1:Like, I I really my sense is that it's it's like, in a lot of ways, we're living in the days of Noah. Right? The other thing is just just the just the division and the amount of evil. And what I've, you know, what I'm witnessing is even within, say, the so called conservative movement, it's now splintered into into a thousand different pieces. There's no cohesion, and there's infighting.
Speaker 1:And so just, you know, my own sense is is and that's here in America, but the other thing is just how there are so many powerful countries and global entities that want to bring America to its knees. Like, you know, how many terror cells are in America right now, that came across the border? How many Chinese troops are in America right now waiting for the order? Right? So I I I feel like, you know, we're at like, our country is is in the most vulnerable place it's ever been at since the founding of this country.
Speaker 1:And it's not just limited to our country. I mean, the role that America plays is global, and there's all there's all these different nations around the world looking to America saying, hey. Please, can you guys get it right? Can can you please get it right and help us? Because these countries are like, look at Europe.
Speaker 1:Like, Europe is gone. Right? Like, you're if if you're if you're a straight white male, you're a minority, almost all places in Europe now, you know, by design. Right? You know, this is this is absolutely by design.
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Speaker 1:Yes. There's there's a lot. There's a lot that that concerns me. That's for sure. I mean, like, I was saying I
Speaker 2:was gonna say
Speaker 3:Go ahead.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say, you you said a lot there, and I don't think people even picked up on half of it. I mean, it it is when you talk about the I mean, you're talking about a beast system being set up. I mean, when the antichrist comes in, the beast system isn't gonna be invented by him. It's gonna already be laid in place and they just pull the trigger. You know, when you talk about genetic modification of the human race, I mean, this is not a new thing.
Speaker 2:I mean, when you go back to Genesis six, when the sons of God, the angels, the fallen angels, you know, started making basically genetic hybrids where which were the Nephilim. Right? But the whole thing there was to stop god's plan from happening. And it was all designed to separate, you know, because when you genetically modify them, they didn't have a place in god's world. And so basically what happened is he wiped out the entire planet to get rid of of that of those hybrids so that eventually Jesus could come through, you know, from from the line of of Noah, you know, all the way from David and all that.
Speaker 2:I mean, there's a long journey to get there, but they were trying to stop god's plan from happening through genetic modification of the human race to get rid of the the the edemic seed. So the original seed of Adam. And so and even today, you have to look at that and think like the Bible says there's nothing new under the sun and so they're still playing the same game. They've been playing all the way back from Genesis six. They're just doing it slightly different through pharmakia and all kinds of other things.
Speaker 2:You know, through it, but it's still designed to separate us from the creator. And that's all, that's always been the plan is to either distract us, destroy us, or separate us. You know, if they can keep us distracted, they just keep us out of the will of God. If we're too busy watching football or in the NBA playoffs to see what's happening, what's coming this way and what's coming this way, what's coming from behind us, then, they're then they're they're doing the thing that they're they're they're being successful, you know? Yeah, but so you you said a lot that I I actually have a friend in Canada and he got stuck in Canada during the pandemic.
Speaker 2:You know, they couldn't leave. He's he's a he's a big YouTuber and he's a great guy and he was telling me that hey, they just did this thing in Canada where any foreign nations if they buy companies here or whatever, they have the right to protect their investment. I go, what exactly are you talking about? And he said, well, China, the CCP has bought some some massive companies up here in in Canada. I said, are you telling me they have troops on the ground?
Speaker 2:He goes, that's exactly what I'm telling you. I said, oh, jeez. Okay. So they're buying, you know, corporations or companies up there, and then they have the legal right to protect their investment. It just puts us right to just put them to the north of us.
Speaker 1:Exactly. So I wanna hone in on on on your on go back to the beef and freeze drying because Okay. We could kind of finish my story about the eggs. What I came to the conclusion of is that the only way I can possibly preserve all these eggs was freeze drying. So I went out.
Speaker 1:I got a a a Harvest Right freeze dryer.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:And and I could, you know, sort of freeze dry for my own eggs, which was great. But then I realized I was like, oh, I've got, like, I don't know, 200 pounds of of of beef. Right? Of just ground beef that, that, you know, maybe it was 300 pounds. We bought a a bunch of beef.
Speaker 1:Right? And I'm thinking, well, this like, what happens if the power goes out long term? This is all waste. Right? It's gonna be full of maggots in a week.
Speaker 1:And so that that's where I actually started freeze dried my own beef. Right? It started know, was like, oh, at the first I was cooking it up, and I was like, well, wonder if I could do it raw. I went and found some, know, some videos on it. I was like, oh, actually, you can you can freeze dry fry you can freeze dry beef raw, and it lasts, like, over a decade, shelf stable in my basement, like, a Mylar bag with an auction packet.
Speaker 1:Or, you know, it's like, oh, like, that to me, was it was like it was like sorcery almost. Right? It's like, you know, like modern day alchemy that you can, you know, put something in this machine that comes out with this stuff that will, like, last for a really, really long time. So, walk us through, like, how you guys went from doing this for your friends and your family and and your neighbors and everything to where you're at now with which as I understand it, like like, there's a lot of different prepared food companies. Right?
Speaker 1:Like, I work with Heaven's Harvest. I love those guys. They're great people. And they they've got, like, their protein packs, which are good. A lot of people, they have, like, the food buckets, which a lot of food buckets are actually junk.
Speaker 1:They're they're they're actually, you know, Kool Aid and pudding mixes that jack up the calories, and, oh, the price per calorie is so inexpensive. It's like, well, yeah, because you're getting junk. And people think, well, at least it's some calorie. It's like, well, if you're living in like a grid down scenario or some sort of disaster scenario, that's when nutrition is the most important. Like right now, if you're eating junk food, you know, you can access access and go to the gym, and you can do things to balance it out.
Speaker 1:But if you're in survival mode, and you're working your property, you know, eight hours a day, and and you're walking to haul water, you you don't need Kool Aid and pudding. Like, you need good protein and and good sustenance. So, I I like, as far as I know, you guys are the only guys that have really pioneered specifically figuring out how to create shell stable protein, which is infinitely important. So so walk us through this, like, what your operation looks like and what you do and why your your products are so important for people in terms of preparedness.
Speaker 2:So so everything we do is fresh. So we're we're not keeping a ton of this on the shelf just burning up the shelf life. So when people order, I mean, we're we're in the process of manufacturing it every day always, but our goal isn't to just have a ton of it on the shelf and burn up shelf life. Our goal is to give you fresh product every time you receive it. I I I previously mentioned that it's grass fed, grass finished.
Speaker 2:The reason why we did that for us as a healthy thing with has no antibiotics, no preservatives, no vaccines, or anything like that. When you do grass fed, grass finish, you your omega threes and your omega sixes are one to one ratio. One, you could look at it in this way. Now I'm not a doctor, but this is what doctors have told me. This is what some really smart rangers have told me that that one to one ratio is important because it kind of keeps the blood thickening and the blood thinning agent together.
Speaker 2:Kinda keeps it, you know, and then but once you go to grass fed grain finished and there's a limit of how long that they can grain finish these cows because they'll destroy em. So, you know, they have to give em like oh like basically Tums and stuff like that because the acid gets so so strong that they they just can't handle it anymore but that that omega three to omega sixes jump up from a one to 20 to one to 50 ratio and basically, the doctors are saying like, if you have some type of blockage issue, whether it be, you know, in your veins or your heart or your head or whatever, you know, you're talking about like a possible stroke or a possible heart attack. Once you get those levels out out there like that. But they're only allowed to like grain feed these things for like ninety days because if you go out to I believe it's one hundred and twenty days. There's something catastrophic that happens to the to their liver.
Speaker 2:Do you know what it is? Their their liver explodes. So, we do grass fed, grass finished only for us because that's what we want to eat and right now, our only product is ground beef. So, we take the whole cow. So, it's the steaks.
Speaker 2:You got the rib eye. You got the New York strip. You got the filet. You got everything inside that beef. So it's basically a steak burger.
Speaker 2:So you can make anything you want to, whether it's meatballs, meatloaf, smash burgers, whatever. Yeah. Chili, tacos. So the meat's not predestined for just one product. There's a lot of products out there that we didn't want, and that was already beef crumbles that's already predestined to be on nachos or tacos for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2:We wanted something for us. Now, we're now we are in the process of doing other things like steaks which we already have em on hand, eggs, and but the thing is is that they have to be the best. So, we're teaming up and finding the right people in place to make sure that we get the best products And but yeah. So I I don't know if you have anything to to fill in on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So so basically, they do the ground beef, a lot of people, you know, I'm just trying to talk if if they buy it at the store. They just think it's, you know, we we learned so much through this process. So beef that you buy at the store, no matter if it says grass fed or grass finished, it's usually all the leftover cuts that is thrown away that they don't wanna waste, and then they're gonna grind it up double grind whatever so it's not hard.
Speaker 2:Not not only that. It could be from thousands of different animals.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The same animal. Yeah. It could be tons of different ones. And so that's what you're kinda getting.
Speaker 3:So then with us it is the same cow processed. That's why I mean a lot the the the richness of the taste is there because we're taking all the cuts. Mhmm. And putting it in there. So just to clarify, if if people just think there's a difference.
Speaker 1:If you want to go pull up sorry. Just a little fact here. A McDonald's burger contains DNA from many different cows, not just one. One study found over 1,300 different strains of cow DNA in a single quarter pounder patty. Right?
Speaker 1:Like, that's that's a problem. If if you it's like, woah. Like, how is it that they're getting over a thousand cow cows DNA into one single patty. Yeah. That doesn't sound
Speaker 2:pretty good. It's impressive. I mean, that that should go in the Guinness Book of World Records or something, but that that should be called, like, the Frankenstein burger. I I don't know.
Speaker 1:So I I know you guys have some there. Do you mind opening a package and, like, showing like, what does it look like? Like, how do you reconstitute it? So say, you know, say it's not even survival process. Say, you know, it's like, oh, crap.
Speaker 1:We're out of beef, and we really wanted to make some spaghetti bolognese tonight. And I was like, oh, okay. I I got my freeze dried beef. What does that process look like if you wanna take that and and and cook with it?
Speaker 2:So we so we we have different packets. You know? So we have, you know, a smaller pack, which is a pound. We have our bigger packets that are three pounds. And these, when you you open them up, there is a resealable spot as well.
Speaker 2:But these are these are individually packaged in their own Mylar bags. So there'll be three of them in here. There's three pounds. But, basically, you just you just open this up here.
Speaker 3:And
Speaker 2:it has a it has a oxygen absorber and a moisture absorber. So that it really helps protect that. Basically, whenever you're talking about preserving food, you have like three elements that are gonna fight against it. That's moisture, temperature, and light, you know, or or and oxygen. So you when you remove those things, that's how this thing becomes shelf stable for over a decade.
Speaker 2:But basically, you just tear this open. You would take these two two patties out. These are two half pound patties. And then you just break them up into, you know, smaller pieces. You pour water over it, let it rehydrate, and you're ready to rock and roll.
Speaker 2:It brings it completely back to life. The blood will be back. The and it usually takes about ten to fifteen minutes. Sometimes, it could take a little longer. It there's no exact science to this part, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:It just it will rehydrate when it rehydrates, but it's usually pretty quick. And then you're able to use it just like you would any normal ground beef that you got from the store.
Speaker 3:And with this, this is raw meat. Right. It's freeze dried. Right. And it's not dehydrated.
Speaker 2:It's yeah. It's not jerky.
Speaker 3:So there's a lot of people that are like, oh, yeah. Dehydrated meats. Right? Nope. That's totally different processes.
Speaker 3:Dehydration is is usually still requires most beef jerky at stores are, you know, dehydrated. Mhmm. But they have a lot preservatives in it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:And then there's moisture in it. Right. And lots of sugars in there. And so this is actually freeze dried. So the process is getting under, you know, sub levels with under tons of different pressure and then pulling out all the moisture and making it basically there's no moisture in it.
Speaker 3:So, that's what you're adding. So, when we say reconstitute, you're just adding back the life to it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And so it it it says it it it gives you all the instructions here on the back of the packet. There's even a QR code so people, can just even see a YouTube video just to make it really simple. But it's basically you remove the backing, the packets. You break up the contents into bite sized pieces and add it into the bowl or a plastic bag.
Speaker 2:You can use the plastic bag that it comes with and add 10 ounces of cool water per pound. Let it sit ten to fifteen minutes or until meat is fully hydrated and then you typically don't have to drain any water because it completely gets reabsorbed. And then and then you're ready to go.
Speaker 1:And so, okay. I'll pull up your website here, which is griddownchowdown.com. Let's see. Oh, here we go. So walk us through, like, what is the cost?
Speaker 1:Do you have subscription stuff? You know, the way I look at this is that there's you know, some people, like, every month, they put money into a four zero one k. Right? Or they'll do this. Like, to me, like, if I have any extra money, say, you know, say I've got $500 that month.
Speaker 1:It's like, okay. I can put this towards something useful. It's gonna be silver commonly. Right? Okay.
Speaker 1:Hey. I'll get, you know, 10 more ounces over this month or whatever. I look at this as something where it's, like, almost like you just put on subscription. Like, every month, you you put some away. Right?
Speaker 1:It's like this is just your the same way you're saving for your four zero one k. You guys talked about insurance earlier. Everyone's paying insurance. You know, if everyone's people are paying even $10 a month for iPhone insurance or AppleCare or whatever it is. Like, that's what this is.
Speaker 1:It's just it's an insurance policy that if things go bad, that you've got this, like, you know because, like, what is 200 pounds of shelf stable ground beef worth in a situation where you don't have access to beef anymore? Like, you could trade a pound of that for five chickens or I mean, it's this stuff is it it's kind
Speaker 2:of All the gold you want. Gold.
Speaker 1:Do you know what I mean? It really is.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And and so, walk us through the the pricing. I know we've got discount codes set for people, which I always like to do that for the Made in America listeners. But, how much does it cost? You know, how does that cost compare to, like, once it's reconstituted? Because I know that you say, okay.
Speaker 1:It's three pounds. Is it three pounds pre, you know, pre three pounds before the water coming out or three pounds as the the solid? Like, does it all break down?
Speaker 2:Right. So, basically, one pound is basically four servings. And so in our in our one pound bag, it's basically it's one pound raw weight. You know, now it weighs nothing. You can take 24 pounds and it weighed by six pounds in your backpack.
Speaker 2:But so it's one pound of actual raw material in here once you rehydrate it. But there's four servings in here. In our bigger bag, there's 12 servings. And so the way that it breaks down is that I believe this is $35.
Speaker 3:So the on on the the discount, it's usually 45. Okay. We're at 35. And then with
Speaker 2:Your discount.
Speaker 3:Your discount, they it equals to about $8 a burger. Right.
Speaker 2:For a
Speaker 3:quarter pound burger. Not like a like a McDonald's burger. Right.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Frankenstein burger.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And and so and and so with this, the nice thing is is that it's kind of like you said, it is it is food insurance for maybe an an emergency But what I see is that people are actually investing in their health. And if you look at the ingredients on this thing, it says ingredients. It says beef. It says 90% lean, 10% fat.
Speaker 2:It's it's just beef. That's all it is. Grass fed, grass finished beef. There's nothing
Speaker 3:So there's no crickets or cricket protein.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There's there's no
Speaker 3:Or rubber.
Speaker 2:There's no bug protein in there. Three d print meat? Yeah. And so people are concerned about their health. That that's why you have this whole maha movement right now.
Speaker 2:And so I'm if you invest a little bit more in health, you're gonna spend a whole lot less at the doctors. And so people see that, wait, so I can set this up on subscription. I don't have to go to the grocery store to get my fresh beef. And no matter how crazy life gets, no matter how many soccer games we have on the weekend, that it I'm not going to forget about the beef that I need to prepare in my fridge and it's going to go bad. So, a lot of people are moving towards this healthy beef.
Speaker 2:They know what's in it and more importantly, they know what's not in it and so, they just set this up on subs every month and it comes fresh to their porch every single month and they just decide how how much they want and they're taking a certain amount and they're replacing all the beef that they're actually getting at the grocery store because it's it's valuable to them and then it it it saves them time. It saves them money in the long run and it them healthy and then they're even putting some back to save for a rainy day and so people are putting this in their pantries. They're putting it in their basements. They're putting it underneath their beds. It's easy to store.
Speaker 2:So, we thought that this was going to be a doomsday type of last ditch option product and really what we just what we've seen is that that's not the case. People are using it for both. They're using it for healthy living lifestyles, and they're using it for food and insurance as well. So, that's kind of what we're seeing across the board.
Speaker 3:Yeah and they're also using it for travel when they travel because you can actually take this on an airplane and travel with it. And not worry about stuff. You're traveling a lot. You when you get to your hotel, you can cook it. Also, you mentioned earlier those, you know, preservative proteins and sugars.
Speaker 3:The problem is we've heard a lot of people are buying this meat extra because a lot of people, they're single. They're they're widows, whatnot, and then have cats or dogs. So, they're like, I want to feed my animal this because I can't do, they can't eat all this other stuff that's preserved in sugars because they'll die. So, now that we're figuring out, there, people are using it all around And one thing
Speaker 2:I've I've actually seen people just feed their dogs this whole thing dry as a as a as a treat and they just love it. But you know, as far as our subs, you know, we have it set up to where how however your budget will allow you that there's gonna be a spot available for you whether it's just one pound a month, set it and forget it, or or some people are buying a whole lot more than that. People are buying 24 a
Speaker 3:month. But also, you forgot to mention. If they're on the subscription, they're automatically getting another percent off. Right. Discounted rate.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And then plus Seth's rate.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Seth's discount.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The best deal we'd like to try to help people is like, hey, we're going to, so when people place orders and and we didn't talk about this earlier, it's fresh. But what what is fresh really mean? It means that when we need another cow, when we need another 10 or 20 cows, we're calling them and down the street, I mean, a couple hours away.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And they're processing. They're getting the the cows in line and then they're shipping it within you know, basically, what, two to four weeks depends on how many cows are in line at that butcher. So, we when we get the meat. So, subscriptions, what they allows us to do. One, it's not always open.
Speaker 3:So, we can only take so many subscriptions because we want to meet the demand Because we want to actually deliver a a really good quality product. Fresh product. Not just about money but about people's needs.
Speaker 2:And the way that works is as we see the demand, we just scale up. So, you know, as as we and we and we usually send out Emails to you and and and to the subscribers. Hey, it's open and whatever. So, but we have like, we have this product and then we also had premade hamburger patties that are on subs as well. That way, people were asking, hey, can you make our life a little bit easier?
Speaker 2:Can you just go ahead and premake them into quarter pounders for us? We're like, yeah, we can do that. So we ended up making just ham hamburger patties, which if you wanted to do the same thing, you could do it with that or you can already have the premade hamburger patties which is the same price. We didn't charge any extra to do that but if you're like, hey, I don't I have hamburger patties but I want to actually make meatloaf or meatballs with it. You can do the same thing because it's just going to rehydrate raw.
Speaker 2:You can use it however you want to. But yeah. So but those subs are are open now. They're they're ready to rock and roll. But, you know, but those are limited.
Speaker 2:So as as as those get packed out, you know, we might shut that down for a little bit until we scale up for the next level of subs.
Speaker 1:That makes makes perfect sense. So Yeah. Our promo code is Seth, s e t h, which is typically what, you know, most of the promo codes have are Seth. They get 10% off. So it depends off whether it's a subscription or just a regular purchase.
Speaker 1:Right?
Speaker 2:Right. Both.
Speaker 1:Okay. The website grid down chow down. I'll make sure that all these links are in the description, including the promo code for people. And this is yeah. Again, to me, this is this is insurance.
Speaker 1:This is family insurance. I you know, I I've I've been prepping for really the past, like, probably four or five years. We've been pretty intense on it. We've got, like, five gallon actually, I exceeded by storage in one location, so I had get a storage unit somewhere else for all the five gallon buckets of rice and beans and stuff. That's you know?
Speaker 1:So we're I'm a little bit nuts about it, but it's my life. I mean, I I live this. So, but for people, I think, especially I get a lot of people that ask me, they're in apartments, and they say, look, I don't have a whole lot of room. And if if you're looking at calorie density per weight, there's nothing else that I can imagine. Like, maybe, like, you know, a bottle of olive oil is maybe more calories per weight, but, you know, you're not gonna be drinking olive oil.
Speaker 1:That's not gonna be helping out with your, stomach stuff, I wouldn't imagine. But this is really good for for storage, for backpacking, the go bag. Like, this is one of the great things for go bags. You know, it weighs so little. Toss them in there.
Speaker 1:So, again, you know, pull up the website one more time. So grid down chatdown.com. Promo code is Seth. And, yeah, I I just I appreciate you guys giving us your time today. I I appreciate what you're doing.
Speaker 1:I love how you've turned this into more of a kingdom business and and and more mission driven. And, yeah, any any final thoughts as we wrap up?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I was gonna say we we forgot to mention any of your any of your partners or people that listen to you, if they're gonna gonna get signed up for a a monthly sub, anybody that signs up for 12 servings or more, we give them £1 for free. That way they can test that right away. Test it, give it away. If you're wanting to if you're wanting to send a a sneaky salvation track to your family member or or your neighbor, you you can send that one pound to him for free.
Speaker 2:And so that that that just gives us a way to get you something to where the you you can test it out or you can send it to somebody else. So if they order 12 servings or more on the subs, then they they immediately get that free that free pound sent out with them as well.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Well, thank you guys very much. Yeah. And, Nae, anything anything final for No.
Speaker 3:That was great. Well,
Speaker 2:thank you for having us on. I I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Absolutely. What's beards are always welcome. So that's that's
Speaker 2:so Alright.
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