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Two friends – Dave Gerhardt (@davegerhardt) and Casey Ford (@fordpr) – share their love of golf in podcast form as they talk shop & chat with those who have made golf their long game.
00:01.58
dave_gerhardt
All right? Hello Sweden hello listeners. We're back case good to see you my friends. What's what's new in the world. You deal you doing I don't want to cover too much of the news because by the time this pod gets out. It's old news. But um I'm sorry to hear about tiger.
00:06.86
Casey Ford
Dave Good to see you.
00:18.87
dave_gerhardt
Um, sorry for the way things shook out at Riv. Um.
00:24.00
Casey Ford
Look He's ah he's a dad when he won all these tournaments all these jackets back in the day we didn't have the you know I know his kids are not don't They're not in the daycare virus circuit but you know or maybe it's a case of the in and out you never know we've all been there.
00:36.44
dave_gerhardt
Hey can I I like to first of all I want to apologize to listeners that I'm talking about this because it's going to be old news by the time this is out but case I didn't follow much of it closely but did they send an ambulance to the to the to riviera to to get him or something. What.
00:54.87
Casey Ford
I have no idea just know he operates on a different level like when when he got in that car accident at this tournament what three years ago the
00:55.62
dave_gerhardt
What happened.
01:00.47
dave_gerhardt
Um, like.
01:03.49
dave_gerhardt
Um, was it at was it at this tournament like he was hope he wasn't playing he was hosting and and he was driving home. Yeah.
01:08.48
Casey Ford
Cur I forget if he played it or not but he was it was the Monday after but it was in a genesis I think he was filming some kind of video series. He was working on then and but the police report when it came out and this just give you a.
01:22.76
dave_gerhardt
Yikes.
01:27.76
Casey Ford
Ah, idea of Tiger and and the the people around him. It was like the police showed up tiger's agent showed up removed like 3 bags from the car and left immediately like what what kind of crime scene. Do you know where they just have like oh this agent showed up grabbed some bags threw it in the car and left.
01:41.71
dave_gerhardt
Ah.
01:47.17
Casey Ford
And that's it. So I don't know I don't know he he he deals on a different level that you and I don't operate on so.
01:51.59
dave_gerhardt
Yeah, do you know? So this is related so somewhat related but I'm reading a I'm reading a book and it's talking about the creation of Img and anyway his agent markx is Mark Steinberg they they built this relationship. Well I didn't know this at the time. But.
02:05.68
Casey Ford
Um, yep.
02:11.18
dave_gerhardt
I guess before the whole tiger scandal came out when we were interns at lpnp back in 2009 in the fall of two thousand and nine apparently all that stuff had actually came out in 2007 but Mark Steinberg is friends with the owner of some magazine publishing company. They owned.
02:27.80
Casey Ford
Oh yeah, yeah, the cover he it took a cover story right? he in exchange. Yeah.
02:29.73
dave_gerhardt
Men's health. You know this story that that yeah so they did put tiger. Yeah there's ah, a cover up for 2 years They tiger did a cover story on like you know men's fitness or something one of those type of magazines and they they put this away for for for 2 years and so. Hear you say that they ran to the scene and took the stuff out of the car. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, ah, ah no I I didn't want to mention it because all I do is talk about Alan Shipnuck on this podcast but it's.
02:51.62
Casey Ford
It's like fixers on fixers on fixers. Yeah, that's a great book by the way that the James Andrew Miller book now
03:04.20
dave_gerhardt
It's his other. It's his other book.
03:05.44
Casey Ford
You're in his book club awesome another news this weekend. My daughter turned 4 so we did a ah it was almost like an indian wedding. It was like almost ah just just under a week of celebrating. Um, so now I'm sick. Ah my dad got the.
03:22.29
dave_gerhardt
Okay, congratulations. Well yeah I was gonna say it's been. It's been about two weeks since you got since you got sick.
03:22.88
Casey Ford
Tiger in and out flew. Everyone's fallen left and right? Yeah, yeah, that was a a you know you get a really you really have to soak in the days you don't feel like like shit because they're they're rare this time this time you're.
03:36.38
dave_gerhardt
That might have been might have been the day the day that we recorded with ah the day that we recorded with John Sherman something was coming on I got a tickle on the nose and the throat. But I thought it was nothing and like by that afternoon I had 102 fever and the chills and was just like was crushed for.
03:40.81
Casey Ford
Yeah, he.
03:53.77
Casey Ford
People have called that your Jordan flu game that sherman interview.
03:54.35
dave_gerhardt
For ten days and oh no, it doesn't count because I was I was on the way like it was pre. It was like. Somebody posted it I saw somebody posted a picture with tiger earlier in the week and he just kind of had that look in his eyes now that I know he was sick I'm like man you know that feeling like he was sick in that moment. So um.
04:14.40
Casey Ford
Yeah, he always kind of has that I think you and I have talked about this before offline. He always kind of has that look. It's like is that guy this guy. Yeah, this guy have like 4 or 5 beers before he he got to the course did did this guy's agent, come and take his bags from his car at a car accident and like eight zero am the morning. Um.
04:17.82
dave_gerhardt
Like does he smoke weed does he smoke weed because he always has the bloodshot.
04:31.26
dave_gerhardt
Okay.
04:32.80
Casey Ford
Anyway, so so Friday I'm about the head of the office and my wife says um, do you want to put the bed together. So my daughter's big. Big gift was she's very tall so she's outgrown her bed so we got her ah a big girl princess bed.
04:44.30
dave_gerhardt
Oh here we go. She's already. She's foreign. She's already got to deal with the tall. The tall dad. She's got the tall tall girl problems.
04:51.20
Casey Ford
She ah I'm not joking this she. She's like four inches taller than the second tallest kid in her class. It's crazy. Ah, so she's outgrew her bed like months ago so of course we got like a wayfair ah bed that you know the instructions come shut out wayfair.
04:58.50
dave_gerhardt
It's Amazing. It's amazing. Yeah. Shout out to wayfair.
05:10.52
Casey Ford
You know you're in trouble when the instructions have 0 words just pictures, no explanation, no context because they just don't want to translate it into all the different languages. It's like oh shit and it's also one of these deals where it's like no screws really, it's all Allen Wrenches like
05:15.25
dave_gerhardt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
05:27.27
Casey Ford
Tight angles but blah blah three and a half hours this thing took me but they want you to use the little three Inch allen wrench any any excuse for me to break out my my tools that I very rarely get to use I broke them out. Do you know what brand of ah power. Power drill I I used.
05:46.72
dave_gerhardt
Um, if it wasn't a dwalt. Don't even mention it on the pot. Let's call. Let's go Pat just like the way that Pat like moves around.
05:48.25
Casey Ford
It was a dewalt I felt like Patrick can't lay I should have thrown on the the Polo some khakis really taken my time there I did three and a half hours but
06:02.76
dave_gerhardt
Just his his whole I love him I love him. He's growing so much on me. He always got the khakis the way he stands. He's so deliberate I'm sad that he I'm sad that he fell out of contention. Um, hey real quick on the 1 thing is great about this pod is we can just talk about dad's stuff all the time.
06:05.62
Casey Ford
Deliberate.
06:21.40
dave_gerhardt
It's evergreen content but on the on the tool things give yourself a handicap on your your handiness your your ability to do your ability to to you know whip a tool around.
06:36.84
Casey Ford
All right, get let me have one 1 question just to help calibrate this? Yeah ah, what's a plus to that's like a carpenter or like a.
06:41.16
dave_gerhardt
We're playing off the new. This is the new systems you can post just 9 holes.
06:53.31
dave_gerhardt
Ah, yeah, yeah, like okay so so Leah's dad so my wife Leah her dad is a is a carpenter like built like could build a house right? Ah I think that's fair I think plus two yeah that that's like that that guy's gonna shoot 72
06:54.29
Casey Ford
Just give me a ah gauge So I can put myself.
07:00.31
Casey Ford
Right? Yeah plus help with is a plus 2 plus three can build a house. We'll we'll say it. Okay.
07:12.90
dave_gerhardt
Any given day roll him out of bet. He's going to shoot 72 yeah
07:15.85
Casey Ford
Um, my handicap would be 1 that internament play if you combine my age in it. You can play from like the whites of the red. So I'd put myself at like ah I don't know a 22 something like that.
07:31.58
dave_gerhardt
So so like you could yeah.
07:32.42
Casey Ford
But yourself I mean with all on. Let me let me clarify if you're talking like tech. So I got my hair I get my haircut cut by this 70 year old Colombian woman amazing person. She lives up. She lives a blood a betty shut out Betty was that my wedding you may have met her ah she she.
07:41.41
dave_gerhardt
So sure. What's her name. What's her name shout out betty.
07:51.00
Casey Ford
She cuts her hair below. She lives a blow where she lives her this apartment she lives by herself. She always talking. She's always talking about issues with the tv bull bla blah. So last time I got a haircut a few weeks ago I was like that's it I'm I'm coming up and we're fixing everything you have up so I went I just fixed every tech thing in our house for about 45 minutes
07:54.45
dave_gerhardt
Yeah, yeah.
08:10.57
Casey Ford
After the the appointment. So if you're talking tech stuff I'm ah I'm a scratch if you're talking building a house that kind of stuff handiness tools around the house probably a 22
08:19.69
dave_gerhardt
So like what does that mean like you got her wi-fi set up. You connected her Sonos something like that. Yeah yeah, it's so funny because you're so you could be so you're similar to me and like you could be so introverted in so many ways but then like if you have a relationship with somebody like Betty.
08:24.24
Casey Ford
Yeah, cable Tv issues wi-fi ipad.
08:39.49
dave_gerhardt
You're in there fixing her shit for an hour it's amazing so so my it's tough. It's tough being and me man because my wife is a a pretty lady who's very very handy and I don't it's just not not who I am like you know i.
08:40.33
Casey Ford
Easily easily.
08:54.70
Casey Ford
Well daughter of a carpenter.
08:57.57
dave_gerhardt
Daughter of a carpenter she grew up like my daughter's growing up watching me do this she exactly she she I don't even know any of the terms and so she she does that I would say my handiness level is like.
09:02.16
Casey Ford
It's like son of a coach. Yeah, you're already kind of you're you're already at a deficit.
09:15.18
dave_gerhardt
Probably in that same range probably in the same range I can't I can't claim to be any better. Ah, 1 mistake that I make is that I'm very stubborn and hardheaded. You know, whatever and so like with a scenario like that bed like wouldn't ask for help I would just be in there for 6 hours trying to do it myself and then I always. Since I don't really know the tool game I'll get like the drill and like and then like I'll fuck the whole side of the thing up and like put a huge crack in it like when we were dating I had this bookshelf in my apartment and I got it from Target and I put it together all wrong and it was all fucked up and Leah saw it and she's like oh.
09:40.68
Casey Ford
Um, oh yeah.
09:53.57
dave_gerhardt
Did you put this together. It was like yes I did like I'm sorry I'm not handy.
09:56.62
Casey Ford
Um, it's so fun. You said that I look I mentioned ah they gave you a little 3 three and a half inch Allen Wrench but the the reason they give you that is they don't want you to strip the the screws right? because you're.
10:01.47
dave_gerhardt
They give you that they do that? No instructors. It's like you'll figure this out. Yeah, yeah.
10:13.86
Casey Ford
Way less likely to do that by hand but than using an attachment on the on the dewalt can't lay power drill like I use so I have like you said you're afraid of cracking a thing this this bed a it has like a almost like ah like ah comes to a point at the top. It was like this princess kind of whatever it meets at the top.
10:17.91
dave_gerhardt
Yeah.
10:33.76
Casey Ford
It already has a crack in it and I have ah like masking tape around it or whatever kind of tape. Ah but I have stripped because I used the power tool I've stripped every one of the screws in that bed So that bed cannot be broken down that bed will live in that room for generations beyond when we live there. It's.
10:51.52
dave_gerhardt
Yeah, like when you eventually sell that place. You're like yeah you know take the house. There's also a princess bed on the on the second floor. It's yours if you want it? yeah.
10:51.82
Casey Ford
It's either there or it has to be burned in that in that room.
10:59.53
Casey Ford
Yeah, or you know burn it for firewood. But it's yours or speaking of can't lay I I I ah I should mention we we need to get this segment sponsored where I tell you about my horrible game gambling losses. But.
11:04.74
dave_gerhardt
Yeah, ah, any yeah.
11:13.78
dave_gerhardt
Hey wait by I do follow? Um, so that nuclear golf that I sent you this but they got all these like you know accounts for each individual player and I I don't follow that many like I did like a reset on Twitter like a year or two ago and I just kind of unfollowed everybody and started over. Um.
11:22.64
Casey Ford
Unreal.
11:31.14
dave_gerhardt
But I started following this tracking can't lay account just to play into this bit even more and so I'm 1 of 417 followers of the nuclear golf tracking can't lay account and then the Hashtag is patty ice. So let's go Pat.
11:44.94
Casey Ford
That's a great segment. Maybe we'll do it some future episode where we go through the the accounts and and I try to rank them based on fault. What I think follower count would be because I I feel like 400 is low for what I thought can't let it be because.
11:54.38
dave_gerhardt
Oh that's a great idea.
12:00.84
Casey Ford
I feel like I saw one of their ones that they had a tyral Hatton Tracker and he was like I think it was funny to say like 1 point 7 like like like 1700 whatever ah but I I told you a few weeks ago and it it wasn't.
12:11.74
dave_gerhardt
It's amazing. But it's sick. It's like just so nuclear golf. They got the emojis. Go ahead.
12:20.42
Casey Ford
Don't think it was through them I think it's unaffiliated. Ah, but when we had that Anthony Kim video go viral. We had Anthony Kim Tracker follow us. He hasn't hit a golf shot in 14 years
12:30.20
dave_gerhardt
Let's go. Yeah I'm I'm trying to look right now like I want to see like do they have a list of all the accounts. That's a great little segment. We got to do we need nuclear golf on the pod I will yeah.
12:35.77
Casey Ford
And we want that guy on the pod. We need him. He said he said he would consider this year he was he was getting right when we asked him and last year he said he was getting ready for the season building all these accounts I mean you know that that Nick Dunlop accounts not going to build itself.
12:49.48
dave_gerhardt
Dude you know you know what? a whole a whole play for a whole strategy for this podcast is actually it's like it honestly doesn't matter how many people listen to each episode because like we just need to record these episodes so we can have bits so we can have clips so a clip can go viral and then we can get. 1 of those people on like I'm not even getting that's how this works. Yes, yeah, I'm not even sure. Do. We want the nuclear golf guy like for all, we know like the nuclear golf.
13:10.28
Casey Ford
It's It's the long game of just getting the nuclear golf guy on yeah I'm I'm down with that I have more questions for him than I've had ever that for all of our guests combined so far and that we had great guests.
13:24.78
dave_gerhardt
The nuclear golf guy could be Alex Jones like I have no idea what this person is going to be like I do say they are great at social media copywriting the emoji game is on point the hashtags like even this Twitter but tracking can't lay. We track hashtag Patrick can't lay daily powered by the nuclear golf tracking network. Next the genesis hashtag patti ice wins eight Fedex cup world ranking 7 fedex 24 they got it down. Oh I don't know I'm still here. Can you hear me? sorry. so so what. what
13:51.83
Casey Ford
Well I lost you now you' faded away for a little bit there but we're we're back you you loading all these these ah these trackers got you your wifall and oh next up.
14:02.70
dave_gerhardt
So sorry about that. So apparently a bunch of guys were sick. There's something going around the the flu was going around at riv.
14:11.66
Casey Ford
Yeah, and you saw that it like people pieced together that it was the because I think on Wednesday they posted the tor post to the thing of like the best ah lunch turn of all time and it was an in and out burger stand at the turn and everyone just made the connection that that got everyone sick. But every time I watch someone like on Thursday or Friday those kind of shitier shittyier quality espn live feeds whatever espn.com feeds ah that they don't use on the telecast every guy leaving the green was coughing speak Thomas Tiger
14:35.81
dave_gerhardt
Yeah.
14:44.67
dave_gerhardt
Um, yeah when those guys all played those guys all played together hey so I'm in I'm in Worcester hanging at my parents' house over the weekend flip on the golf and I hear this voice.
14:46.73
Casey Ford
I Know they said his thing was the stomach thing but they all seem to be fighting off something.
15:00.80
dave_gerhardt
And it was like had a little twang in it of an accent of some kind that I kind of recognized but it sounded like a little bit more polished the microphone quality was better. The talk was slower a little bit less and a little bit more like polished I'm like holy shit. That's that's our boy. That's Mr. Brendan de young did you know that just.
15:19.44
Casey Ford
Pretty cool I don't know if he got I don't know if he got a pro but promotion I I knew he did some work for the the tour but um, good to see him and his partner Johnson Wagner was ah on course following I don't know if he's following tiger but he's following some of the marquee groups this weekend. So. Ah, yeah, shout-out good episode last week and ah pga tour and I guess golf channel superstar Brendan de young check it out. Um I was going to say if you had the haddeki masyama tracker. Ah, alert on your phone. Your phone was on fire this weekend because especially Sunday did you end up watching that comeback.
15:59.96
dave_gerhardt
Um, so here's what happened so I watched a little bit of I was watching a little bit of the golf I was excited to watch it on Sunday because my boy Pat was at the top of the leaderboard. There's just there was a bunch of storylines Pat and Zander.
16:15.34
dave_gerhardt
Um, will zaotauus in the mix good to see him back in form I think he he is what I need either him or Jt relevant in golf I like them both and I think I really like I'm a big wheel guy I like will will z I like him so I was like okay, cool I'm gonna watch this. Um I'm hanging out in my parents' house like I can kind of. They're playing with the kids I can kind of zone out watch the golf I watch it for a little bit I watch the first couple holes le and I go out on ah on a dinner date she gets up to go the bathroom during the dinner date I check my phone I go to Youtube Tv on my phone to check the scores Matt's ayama 17 under and everyone else kind of stalled out it. 12 or 13 under and then I'm looking at the holes and like he was in the clubhouse and everybody else was on 16 and I was like what just happened so then after I watched the 2 iron shots he hit were ridiculous and him winning like I felt like he's one of the best players in the world. But then like since like when he won the masters. It was like dude this How's this guy not a top 5 player in the world. he's he's ah incredible and then I just was like wait a second I haven't heard about this guy in so long and so then I listen to shotgun star and you know they just talked about how he's kind of he's been injured. He's kind of had a lot going on and. And then he just comes out and just like is a ball striking machine and and shoots a 62 on Sunday to win at Rif that was pretty sick.
17:38.19
Casey Ford
Insane. It's crazy how long he's been playing too like and this is big for the torque because they needed someone They couldn't have another um pivo when they needed some kind of a markey name after the last few weeks they've had um.
17:44.26
dave_gerhardt
Um, yeah of all right can I ask you a question is it is it true does he not does he not speak English and I look I only speak.
17:54.24
Casey Ford
And I meant to bring this up with I don't think so it's like a rafaelavors kind of situation.
18:02.75
dave_gerhardt
I don't mean this is not disrespectful at all I think you know I'm I'm the Moronamerican who only speaks one language right? but it is it is a devor situation where like this guy's been over here and he's like yeah you know what? I'm just Goingnna bring my guy.
18:14.50
Casey Ford
Yeah, no I'm pretty sure I haven't heard well I know I read an article this weekend that he quoted something and it was through an interpreter so I assume and but I meant to bring this up last week with ah Mr de young he he was actually on that president's cup team in 2013 just point being. He's been playing for so long. You think of him as not like 1 of the older guys but he he was such a young phnom. But um I watched I like I I was saying before we needed a segment where sponsored by Draft Kings or something where I go through how my my crushing golf bet loss of the week. But.
18:32.49
dave_gerhardt
Hodeck. Yeah, yeah.
18:51.22
Casey Ford
I can't lay ah pre pre week. Pretty pretty decent odds pretty good money. Um, he had a what like a 5 stroke lead on Saturday at like the turn or something he was. That's another tough one for me but he played horrible. It sounds like he was sick too. Um. But really the story of the week for watching that. Um, aside from hadeki just taking it over on on Sunday and that thing was over by like 14 you didn't you didn't have to watch because everyone was going so far backwards that there weren't enough holes to make up what he'd already posted so I'm sure they had bad bad ratings the last hour or so. Um, but scotty schuffler and the putting man who it's every week. He's top 2 3 in in strokes gain everything and he's dead last in putting unreal. So good. Did you watch if you see it.
19:31.00
dave_gerhardt
It. It's bad I didn't see it. Oh you know what I did see so so Rory they had Rory like in the booth for a little bit seems like yeah it was like it was okay.
19:48.28
Casey Ford
Didn't like it. No what I I like do you I like he wasn't He's not like going to sling it like a you know like a kiss or something but the fact that he wasn't vanilla and actually like said some things that I know he's been on a tour of say of sound bites. But.
19:49.21
dave_gerhardt
No, it was good. It was good. It was great.
20:01.17
dave_gerhardt
Um, no, it was awesome. This is this is like what we've talked about this like what we've talked about it's like having whether you have a guy like full-time doing it like kids like that that will that would make me want to watch the golf more like I can't get enough of hearing those guys who just played the course like. He was like oh you know I hit it I hit a shitty in the bunker there and so like I love hearing that like the guys who just came off the course talking about what the leaders are doing out there and how the course is playing I can't get enough of that I brought the Rory up because he did for.
20:28.29
Casey Ford
I want to say Rom did that last year for one that it's got to be a good player who is not in contention. They finish early and he was great too like you're right like that? yeah.
20:38.10
dave_gerhardt
Um, ah, he's great John Rom is great. Dig his accent adds it to it. But I love I love the way I love hearing him talk about golf but I heard Rory say he said I would he I'm not a golf analyst I happen to. Picked this up. He said I would love to see scotty go to the mallet and.
20:52.94
Casey Ford
Yeah that's what I'm saying like you you don't expect him you expect there to be a little bit of vanilla aspect like just kind of get through this half hour 50 minutes whatever it was but he he actually said some things that were I mean I don't know if that would rub scotty the wrong way. You tell me that. He's talking about his putting it scotty doesn't seem like the kind of guy that's uses anything for motivation. But um I don't know I I would I'd like to see roaring roaring contention more but it's i. Love this thing of I'm sure it has to do with their like flight schedules too of like who's sticking around who's getting hell out of there. Um, but. There should be something in like their contracts where you're out of contention. You finish. You know an hour before that that prime time Sunday finish coverage. Why not hop on for the front 9 or whatever.
21:40.00
dave_gerhardt
Yeah I thought that was great. So I mean it's a good thing that this is happening to scottie because that dude is incredible like the way he hits the golf ball is insane and he he just every time I flip on the Tv He's flushing the ball and so I think he's.
21:56.70
Casey Ford
It's It's not like tiger level. It's better. It's it's like the the dominance he's having in strokescreen is.
21:58.33
dave_gerhardt
No, it's better. It's it's it's insane and I think because because of his move like the way he's swinged like the way his footwork it just I I can't get enough of watching him. It does suck that he can't make any putts but whatever.
22:12.11
Casey Ford
So there's been so many people sit talking about it too if he's like second strokes gain every category every week but he's last or bottom 5 in putting. Um what he would have to be just to be dominant and win every week and it's mediocre like do you think. You think if he could just if you could pick someone anyone in the world outside the top I don't know 200 will say and could pick tag anyone in to putt anytime he got on the the green. Do you think he would like be would he pick. But he still pick himself I don't know I don't know he's so he's so bad from like ten feet and in that like I don't get the best mini golf putter in the world that just rakes from four feet in I don't know.
22:50.60
dave_gerhardt
Who's 200 in the world. Hello children.
22:55.63
dave_gerhardt
Yeah.
23:03.25
dave_gerhardt
Or like give him like 2 drinks or something you know like no sorry give him a cold brew with honey in it or something. Um I got a couple I got a couple things that I want to mention before we get into picks. So so just I just want to shout this out so speaking of a deckki.
23:06.56
Casey Ford
Scotty Sheffler yeah exactly there you go.
23:19.82
dave_gerhardt
I don't know if you follow ceno on Instagram but Cjaco Golf coaching post post had deki. He's like watch this guy's pelvis. He's like he makes an unbelievable move and then I'm and saying this because I know he's listening but I love ah he says.
23:20.93
Casey Ford
I do.
23:31.54
Casey Ford
Think he goes into the bathroom to to tweet that So his family didn't see talking about another man's pelvis.
23:37.33
dave_gerhardt
Watch how his pelvis move in the back swing here now I'm like I'm like does my pelvis move that way. It's always its Matt fucks me up. Um, second thing I want to mention is that was hadeki's tenth win on the tour which is I think they said the most by a player from Japan. Um.
23:46.93
Casey Ford
Yeah.
23:54.90
Casey Ford
Yep.
23:54.92
dave_gerhardt
In the book that I'm reading. They're talking about a former pj tour star Dustin Johnson who's you know now god knows what he's doing any guesses case on how many pj tour wins Dustin Johnson has without looking it up. Okay. Yeah, because I'm giving I'm using hadeki at 10 because everybody's making a huge deal out of it to give you some scale here.
24:19.69
Casey Ford
Um, I'm going to say sixteen. Really yeah I feel like I you forget that he had He really.
24:20.20
dave_gerhardt
So 24 isn't that kind of crazy when you think that guy won 24 times on tour.
24:33.75
Casey Ford
Not grinded on tour for a while but he won a lot of um like cps charity classics and those kind of things probably right? like yeah, the most maybe the the maybe the first ever golf rumor or Twitter Golf rumor yeah
24:40.98
dave_gerhardt
Um, he also had that mystery like suspension or disappearance.
24:53.46
Casey Ford
Well.
24:53.54
dave_gerhardt
And then ah yeah, so so he's got 24 24 that just shows you how good dj was is who knows that's the frustrating part I got 2 more I got 2 more quick hitters for you? Um, you told me that you.
24:59.58
Casey Ford
Crazy crazy crazy.
25:08.40
dave_gerhardt
Are in on the shock on start podcast and I just would like to hear I'd like to give you like to let you give you give some airtime on that.
25:15.26
Casey Ford
Yeah, you recommended I listen to it. Um I don't know a couple months ago and I started and I I love it. They're they're great and think it's a good um I'm pretty selective with my podcast I I claim to be. Person with the most podcast listen hour logged of all time I've been in on podcasts since like 2007 I I introduced podcast to you correct. We've talked about this before. Yeah, which is the.
25:42.80
dave_gerhardt
That is correct that is correct. Let it be known for the record clip it 2007 so that means you were like copying and pasting like the Rss feed into a pod catcher you you were yeah.
25:55.14
Casey Ford
Way. But oh yeah oh yeah way everything way back in the day. The Espn like that pop up kind of player thing. Everything? Um, yeah so I think they're great I have I try not to listen to it for we record here because their points are so good that i.
26:01.16
dave_gerhardt
Yeah.
26:12.43
Casey Ford
Don't want to pard it here. But I appreciate you introducing that to me but but but we're competing with them in the standings Now we're only we're a good eighty spots below them but we'll we'll bleep the name but people can figure it out. Ah.
26:17.81
dave_gerhardt
All right I got in what? ah yeah, sorry hey all right? and then um, we've never put this on the air and I'm just curious to to hear your perspective. What's your what's your opinion about rigs.
26:33.68
Casey Ford
I Love ricks.
26:34.38
dave_gerhardt
From barstool are you a Riggs defender.
26:40.51
Casey Ford
Um, defenders an interesting term I don't like if especially if anyone of anyone in that bar stool universe like I feel like Riggs is one of the more I don't want to say vanilla because that would be a shot at him he is I feel like he's one of the least controversial. Um.
26:52.86
dave_gerhardt
Yeah I mean I mean from a golf perspective like he gets he posts a video of him putting or doing anything and and the comments is just a blood bath that's kind of what I'm looking for your perspective on I'm not as plugged in.
27:05.10
Casey Ford
Yeah I think he I think he? um yeah, he he plays into it a little bit I think um, that's just his thing. He's not I think I think he kind of got to follow him a little bit to get his sense of humor and. Very self-deprecating? Um, but I mean if you're asking me to give a comment on barstool sports ah internet commenters I'm not going to be able to help you out there I don't know what I don't know what fuels them I don't know if you can use them as a barometer of someone's queues core. But I ah. Especially of all those those bars still golf guys 4 play guys. Ah Riggs is my number 1 Not a fan.
27:48.51
dave_gerhardt
Ah, no I just I just I think it's It's a tough. It's a tough world to be a content creator and let people see your golf swing and open yourself up to that whole that whole side of the internet I I don't envy that that's all I'm going to say.
28:02.62
Casey Ford
You'll ah you're going to see his house when you play number 2 is a house right on one of the holes. Um I don't know if he lives there full time but he he it's his house but's pete where he is often so and your caddie will will point it out to you and you can.
28:05.84
dave_gerhardt
He lives there.
28:13.70
dave_gerhardt
Ah, all right? Well we'll check we'll check it out I'm sure you will I'm looking forward to that or let's get into this week
28:18.68
Casey Ford
Can shout anything you want at him all right? Um, this week we are ah we get the mexican open at verant vedanta ah when we envision this grinders tour pick. Idea thing picking guys every week outside the top One fifty I think this is the tournament we envisioned this is kind of the official grinders tour open because there's really not a lot of a lot of star power here which is great for us. Um, but first real quick last week that's recap ah every viera. Remember who he picked.
28:55.19
dave_gerhardt
Ah, Doug Gim
28:58.89
Casey Ford
Doug Gim didn't make it into the genesis I don't I don't believe you had Victor Ludwig and Matt Fix Fitzpatrick fitz cut $0 but coupled the t nineteen s for Victor and Ludwig each getting about Quarter million so that's a half million for you last week but I had Rory T 24 Cam Young T sixteen and Patrick Cantlay who finished in fourth so I ended up. Let's see that's a quick one point three million million so I'm up to five point three million on the air you get 4 your one point three million behind um that's okay, you win this week you're you're right back in the saddle. So.
29:22.40
dave_gerhardt
Jerk had a boy.
29:34.27
dave_gerhardt
Um, you're right about this field by the way the highest ranked player in the field this week is Mr. Tony Fiau who is twenty fourth in the world and after that it's tough Nicola Horeard 30 30 four Emiliano Grillo 40 Ryan Fox 41
29:36.36
Casey Ford
Ah.
29:52.65
dave_gerhardt
So this is your right case. This is the grinder store baby.
29:54.50
Casey Ford
But by the way Tony Finos available he's he's available to play your golf tournament. You've got something going on Worcester I think he's going to show up what like why is Tony fi now isn't the point of these signature events so that.
30:02.40
dave_gerhardt
Should should We should do the long game. The long game open the long game open. Can we get? Mr. Mr. Tony Good idea.
30:08.25
Casey Ford
These guys make more money in the big tournaments and don't have to play the mexican open or whatever one day. Yeah, we're gonna do that in park city. He'll be there. Ah all right I'll take the first pick because I earned it last week um god damn
30:21.91
dave_gerhardt
Sure.
30:26.65
Casey Ford
Our our our boy my boy Charlie Hoffman is too good for us now at number 1 oh 6 in the world. So I'm gonna steal 1 of your favorites hate to do it to you fan of the pod until he comes on dog gim is my first pick. Yep.
30:41.30
dave_gerhardt
Young d g I like that he's a flushher all right I'm happy for you? Um I'm picking ah don't call him. Don't call him Riley Davis Davis Riley he's one on tour.
30:46.60
Casey Ford
Thanks, you get to.
30:54.61
Casey Ford
I Like that.
30:58.33
dave_gerhardt
Ah, in each of the last two years we we just love him on the pod. We like that. Um I like this guy right here because he's got a big bucket hat as a bald man myself I'd like to make the bucket hat work. But I don't think I can do it given the shape of my nose is Joe Highsmith if to look him up.
31:17.69
Casey Ford
Are you gonna try to sneak one of these guys by me one week. That's not actually a golfer and I'm going to be looking all day Monday morning like I can't find how much money this guy won Joe highismmith. Okay Joe heismmith sorry what do you know about him.
31:18.10
dave_gerhardt
Case. Um.
31:24.74
dave_gerhardt
Um, like yeah Richie Richie Cunningham yeah Joe Highsmith yeah yeah he's a flood ah just like it. Yeah, just like is just just like his short game.
31:35.72
Casey Ford
Flush or 2 okay, love it. Ah, all right? So I'm going to throw this is in the Charlie Hoffman 3 hundred in the world. Plus ah ah pick genre that I i. Pulled out of my bag of tricks a few weeks ago I'm gonna go with Cameron Champ number 3 11 in the world. It's he's a bomber I read that this course needs some bombers. Um, how would this he's won he's won two years in a row. He's one.
31:54.56
dave_gerhardt
I. Wow He is a bomber.
32:12.27
Casey Ford
On the pj tour 2 years in a row. He's number three eleven in the world. It doesn't make sense.
32:16.29
dave_gerhardt
Um, yeah, that's I don't understand. Don't don't make me feel like I don't don't think I understand how this system works dude.
32:23.56
Casey Ford
Ah, and I'm also going to take ah ah with my last pick. Mr Harry Hall who I've picked multiple times this year has not really come through for me but top ten last year different different names. A different guy.
32:30.83
dave_gerhardt
Um, is he is that Harry Higgs or different guy.
32:38.41
Casey Ford
So they do it. We don't just on this team over here. We don't just make up names like Jim Highsmith or whatever.
32:40.21
dave_gerhardt
Just just checking just check in. Um.
32:48.31
dave_gerhardt
Or my last pick is ah Matt e smith yeah high smith we're going to the team smith if you got Smith in your last name I'm rocking with you this week Baby Matt that's MATTNiSmith
32:51.36
Casey Ford
Um, Highsmith and Knee Smith
32:55.98
Casey Ford
What was the name again. Sir Yeah, oh yeah, no I get it and can you defend any of those picks. Awesome. That's a that's the beauty of this.
33:02.89
dave_gerhardt
Capital n lower Casey Capital S ni smith the smith no this I just is I'm a field player you know Mr. Deong told me I need to become I need to be I'm trying to channel more of his vibes right? I've gotten. I've gotten a little bit too technical a little bit too mechanical I need to get back and be a feel a field player. That's all I got to say I would love a betting. Sorry yes yes, please.
33:27.88
Casey Ford
I get you, you have time for a real quick ah betting story are just something I'd like to give I'd like to put out into the world. There is I live in the Massachusetts area. There is a online sports book that. Just in the last week or so went out of business or excuse me. They pulled their license so they don't want to win bet winbet does not want to be in the Massachusetts online gaming game anymore. Draft Kings fan dual. Ah Espn bet. Whatever they've taken so much of the market. It's not worth.
33:45.88
dave_gerhardt
What's it called? so.
34:00.72
Casey Ford
It's not cost effective. They still have oncore casino and all that stuff. But anyway I had used them before I had put a victor hovelin future bet to win the masters for $95 I forget would have paid but it was whatever over 1000 and so they go out of business. So I get an email saying you'll.
34:02.22
dave_gerhardt
Sir.
34:19.77
Casey Ford
Someone but someone is going to be contacting you to figure out how to settle this stuff. So I'm like right? They're just going to figure out how to get my $95 back they come at me by text message with an offer of to so to 75 would I like to accept.
34:34.60
dave_gerhardt
To buy you out of that bet and what's that what's the alternative if you say no you I know? um.
34:36.12
Casey Ford
Out of a $95 victor Hofflin Bat at 14 to one that's I'm sitting I'm sitting at my computer yesterday just staring at this by phone I'm like what? what's the catch you I Mike should I should I say no and be like no and I look like.
34:47.73
dave_gerhardt
Like this a scam is the phishing scam.
34:54.92
Casey Ford
His odds are now down to 12 to one and I got him at 14 to 1 and it was probably a month ago but it did I couldn't make the math work and I was like should I just counter it like I don't know Vick he's been playing so shitty so I couldn't like send this guy stats on his like strokes gain the last few weeks.
34:55.21
dave_gerhardt
Um, yeah.
35:13.42
Casey Ford
Ah, so I just want to put it out there. The casinos are scared of Vic Hovelin master's bets so get him where you can right now you heard it first middle february I told you 12 to 141 to one whatever book it Vick Hob didn hovelin's gonna win the masters.
35:27.91
dave_gerhardt
Well put put this out put this out as a clip like did anybody else get a message from this company and did were there any other buyouts did anybody have open bets does anybody as as yeah I mean well.
35:40.87
Casey Ford
Ah I well I know that I know they I've read about this like ah part of the their settlement of withdrawing their license for online gaming. They have to contact people about these future bets. But I'm willing to bet that I'm the only person in Massachusetts with a Vic. Hovelin masters future. So I don't think that I don't think they've had to I don't I think that's why the offer was so out of whack. They're paying like triple what I bet and there the odds haven't really shifted. It's not like he's been playing better than when I I bet on him so there's something going on there where.
36:00.21
dave_gerhardt
I bet.
36:07.38
dave_gerhardt
Ah, well you better? Do your you better. You can.
36:13.15
dave_gerhardt
You you'd better take that take that hundred dollars I hope you're going to take that hundred plus you know margin that you made on that and throw it on Doug Gim this weekend.
36:16.50
Casey Ford
When he wins we're we'll come back to this.
36:24.30
Casey Ford
Well so if you've been following this podcast. You've heard just week after week of horrific gambling losses on golf from me my first win really of this podcast season came because a massive sports book decided to pack up shop and leave. So.
36:30.32
dave_gerhardt
Yeah.
36:43.11
Casey Ford
I have that effect on people when I'm not you know causing Kevin Streelman to withdrawal but just by picking him. Ah I'm causing sports books to withdraw from from operating in our state. So I have that effect. Thank you.
36:56.22
dave_gerhardt
Congratulations all right? Well we got. We'll watch some golf this week you and me are hanging out tomorrow. We're recording a pod that people hear later with ah some guys that can hit the ball very far. And then we're going to regroup I'll be back I'm going I'm going to Disney with my with my family and so I'll have plenty of stories and I'll see you that following week for for a pod I hope I hope everybody's getting some work in. We got some sunlight. We're getting some you know the the seasons are changing I'm actually. I'm leaving right now to go to my lesson with Dr Cenko so that's where I'm going. But I hope you're getting some work in because we're getting closer and closer to actual golf season here and I I can't wait. Ah no, absolutely not There's there's no, there's no room for that and I got.
37:33.46
Casey Ford
Um, a note you're not breaking the sticks down with you to Disney. Yeah yeah.
37:41.91
dave_gerhardt
I got 3 3 weeks after that I'm going to Pinehurst where we got four days at Pinehurst which will have lots of you know, recap for from the pod. Maybe we'll have do on after that to talk about the festivities and it'd be fun. Yeah, all dude I'll see you.
37:48.42
Casey Ford
Yeah I'll be fun all right awesome and as always Rory come on the pod.