Age Gap Relationships: When is it just... creepy?

Join Elena and Des as they digress into various topics, including their thoughts on age gap relationships and societal perceptions, gender dynamics, and the controversy surrounding a 73-year-old dating a 24-year-old. They also discuss the implications of teacher dress codes, the impact of social media on personal lives, and share some juicy secrets and confessions from their followers. Packed with candid conversations, tangents, and laughter, this episode of 'We Digress' is one you won't want to miss.

00:00 Introduction and Setup
00:53 Discussing Age Gaps in Relationships
01:58 Controversial Age Gap Example
03:14 Societal Views on Age Gaps
06:05 Racial and Gender Dynamics in Age Gaps
17:30 Predatory Behavior and Media Influence
22:48 Teacher TikTok Drama
33:32 Debating College Professors' Attire
34:09 Playful Banter and Friendship Dynamics
35:24 Night Owls vs. Early Birds
38:45 Q&A: OnlyFans and Lavender Marriages
47:15 Sharing Secrets and Embarrassing Moments
57:39 Catfishing Stories and Online Scams
01:01:20 Concluding Thoughts and Mental Health Awareness

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005 - Digress - Teacher Bae
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Elena: Hi, I'm Elena.

Des: I'm Desiree.

Elena: Welcome to digress. Um, we're back. Yeah. And I actually don't know anything that's going on today. Today I did

Des: this time.

Elena: So, you know, I just, I don't really know anything and I didn't know I wasn't gonna know anything until literally like 15 minutes ago.

So, um, you know, we're gonna have fun with that. So Des go ahead and she looks so happy to

Des: be here. I was happy last time, so. Oh, I don't know why you're acting like this. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Back in one of our past episodes, someone find that for me, we talked about age gaps and so I just felt [00:01:00] like seeing as I am in an age gap relationship, not a big one, not a crazy one, not a dramatic one, but an age gap nonetheless.

I wanted to touch subject on that. So my first question for you is, what first comes to mind when you think of age gaps?

Elena: Um, like someone older and someone younger together. Like an older person and a younger person that are together. Mm-hmm. Age gaps. It depends though, because like, okay. Mm-hmm. Oh, I don't like that.

I don't like that Typically. Typically, and I know what you want me to say. She wants me to say an older man and a younger woman. Is that what you want me to say? I don't know. Say that is what you want me to say. Say, but I'm gonna be honest with you. I've seen so many like moms and like older women, date younger men too.

Mm-hmm. So when I think of an age gap, I literally just think of like a large amount of space between one person another. Mm-hmm. When I think of a heavy age gap, I think of like 20 years. Okay. When I think of a lower age gap, I think 10 years or less. Okay. I don't think that's as bad.

Des: Okay. All right. So I'm gonna give you guys a little story.[00:02:00]

Okay. All right. So the current UNC coach is 73 years old. Okay. He's dating a 24-year-old. Oh. At what point do we see him viewing her as someone to mold?

Elena: Ooh. When did they start dating? Don't ask me that question. Oh, you didn't do your research. Oh, that's crazy. Don't

Des: play with me. So, um, I think it depends. I don't think it matters though.

Like, when they started dating, that's even worse. Like, when did they start dating two years ago? I mean, that's crazy. Now you're 22. When are women's frontal lobe developed? I don't know. Come on. Now, when is a woman's frontal lobe developed? I think a lot younger. Uh, they say men's 25. Yeah. Right. So women's has to be 12.

Elena: So do you think, okay, I wanna fact check that real quick. Hold on. Frontal, no, I have toal,

Des: low women's frontal lobe has, I'd say probably around like 2019, somewhere around there.

Elena: Yeah, so I guess it's, it's, uh, early twenties for women. It's 23 I think. So I [00:03:00] would say that you can't mold them after 23.

Des: I think that you, I don't think that you can mold a woman, in my opinion.

I don't think that you can mold a woman that's already in her prime in doing what she does. Like sure. Of herself. So. For a situation like your situation, like you're very, you've dated someone older.

Elena: Mm-hmm.

Des: So your situation is you're very secure in yourself. You have your career going for yourself. You already know what you're doing in the world.

You know what you want outta someone. You know what you don't want outta someone. So I genuinely, for me, I think that it depends on the person that you're getting into a relationship with.

Elena: Yeah. Probably it does kind of depend on who you're dating. Yeah. Because I have met a lot of immature 28 year olds.

Yeah. Men and women both. So it, it really just depends who you are and how that goes. Wait, so I'm confused. Why are we talking about this guy and this a girl? What happened? Did something happen? Or is it just the age gap?

Des: So there's been a lot of controversy and surprisingly because in our day and age there's a lot of like, love for age gaps, but like.[00:04:00]

I think for a big, big and a good reason, there's been a lot of hate going towards them. And I think one of the reasons is specifically who she is as a person. Yeah. They don't like who she is as a person, so then they're speaking on the hate towards her. But for, for me personally, you have a 24-year-old dating, a 73-year-old, which is absolutely ridiculous.

My, I mean, do you got money? In my opinion? See, but that, that's the thing that goes into the next question. At what point is it a relationship or is it just a sugar daddy experience?

Elena: It's giving sugar daddy experience. Okay. Honestly, that's so two completely different stages of life. How are you gonna relate to someone who is 74 years old enough to like, be with them romantically?

That's a good question. Like, um, me personally, I'd be sitting there like, so the weather, the weather's nice, and he's like,

Des: yeah, um, lay it down. Yeah. Pretty much. Like that's what I assume that that's what you're there for. That's what I assume that relationship would be like. You're not for, because she, she and my.

My personal thought process can't give you the intellectual conversation that you're looking for at a seven 30-year-old [00:05:00] age. And yes, his frontal lobe has to be freaking developed at that age. Like, come on, he's 73 years old. Like it's developed, but at what point does it become predatory?

Elena: Yeah, well, you know, technically, legally it's not predatory if they're over 18.

Legally. Right. Legally. Legally, legally, legally. Like she was

Des: in her mother's womb.

Elena: Yeah.

Des: When he was 49 years old. Ooh. Oh God. I'm in her mother's womb when he

Elena: was 40. That's, wait, is it a 49 year age gap? Yes. 49 year age gap. Yes. Oh

Des: my God. See, you hear the words and you're just like, okay, 73 24. Yeah. That's a big age gap.

But then you put the word, yeah, the actual number into it and you're like 49 year age gap. Like you're as old as my grandma right now. And that's a newborn that just entered the world. My mom

Elena: had me at 36. Like that's, that's insane. Like he, like literally it could be your grandfather. Yeah. Yeah. That's literally your grandfather.

Des: It's literally my grand, that's my mom right now. Yeah. Like [00:06:00] sorry for calling out your age, but literally that's crazy for me. Mm-hmm. So do we think that when it comes to age gaps, that there could be also a racial thing in it? Where if, let's say it's two white people, okay, they're not gonna get as much hate on if it's a white older man with a white younger woman, but let's say it's a black older man with a white, younger woman.

Do you feel like that would get a little bit more hate?

Elena: I don't, I, I'm not sure. I honestly think they both get hate.

Des: Like, I think they're both gonna get hate. I don't know. I think in my personal opinion, uh, who's that guy? Um, the bunny dude. What's his name? What bunny? Dude. You know what I'm talking about?

No. Gosh. Bunny, uh, no. Y'all wear 'em all the time. What? Gosh, what is his name? No one knows his bunny guy. No, not the, his name is an actual bunny, but his, um, his brand. You know who I'm talking about? Hugh Hefner. Hugh Hefner.

Elena: Yeah. Right. Well, people didn't think that was weird because it was his whole fucking [00:07:00] personality since he was his, since he was like 18.

But if he would've been black, do you think it would've been different? I have. I don't know. I literally don't know. I don't know if it would be, would I gimme, do you have an example where it's different?

Des: I think it would've been very different. I think if you put a black man in the position of where a white man would've been, it would've been a lot different in that situation.

How, what dnce do you think there would be? He's a black. He's gonna get hated on more. He's gonna get hated on a lot more, and they're gonna see

Elena: it as more predatory. Well, this 73-year-old that we're talking about now is tech is getting hate. Right? He's

Des: getting hate, but he's not getting as much hate, in my personal opinion, as he would've gotten if it was an interracial relationship.

Elena: Who is the person in, who is, do you have an example of the interracial, I'm not

Des: giving names. I'm not airing nobody out. I'm not even airing this guy's name out. Okay. I'm not airing him out. I'm not airing him out. Okay.

Elena: I could definitely 100% see a black man getting more hate because of an age gap than a white man.

Mm-hmm. But I also, like, I wanna know, like I wanna see it, the difference, if that makes sense.

Des: Do you also think that it would come down, what if it's two women? [00:08:00] Do you think it would be more acceptable? Yeah, hundred percent. I feel like it would. 1000%. I'm sitting here thinking, and I'm like, I've seen so many old, I mean, a.

Old ass fucking women. Like I'm talking like wrinkly as fuck. And I'm not going air out who I'm thinking about. Oh, but the celebrities air, I'm not airing out. It's celebrity, but it's a celebrity. And she's dating, I mean, the youngest woman alive. And I'm just like looking at them like the youngest woman alive.

I'm sorry, I had to call. You know what I mean? But like, she's genuinely so young and this woman literally is exiting, exiting the chat. Like, like just as simple as it is. She's exiting the, pulling the plug. She's pulling the plug and it's like, what are y'all doing?

Elena: What are y'all doing? What are y'all doing?

Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean I do think I, I don't know, I don't think women are gonna get as much hate for an age gap. As as. Why do you think that is? Because. Men are more honestly like perverted. I, I'm sorry. I hate to say it that way. More pre not, I don't wanna say more. Predator can be too, [00:09:00] I think it's more common for men to get in relationships specifically for sex.

Mm-hmm. Women can also do it. Yeah. Because I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna like, exit that out. Like, men can get sexually assaulted by women, men can get groomed by women. 1000%. It's just way more common in that, at least that I've seen that men are sugar daddies mm-hmm. Than sugar mommies. Yeah. And, and honestly like sugar daddies, like, that's predatory.

I'm sorry. Like if you, you're, you're paying someone to have sex with you, whether it's through dates. Yeah. Whether it's through hotels, whether it's through any of that. Yeah. That is predatory to like, to an not even To an extent. To an extent. Just in general. Yeah. In general. It is. I don't ever see as many sugar mommies, you know what I mean? Yeah. They definitely exist. They do exist. They exist. They definitely exist. And that's also predatory in my opinion, even if I like, um, have like, okay, let's say one of my friends is an older woman, right?

Mm-hmm. She's like 55, and she's like, oh my God, I started talking to this 18-year-old boy. Mm-hmm. I don't even, I don't fuck with 18-year-old boys. Yeah. [00:10:00] It's just so immature. Like, I'm like, w. What do you mean? You started talking to an 18-year-old boy? Um, that's sick. Like to me that would be sick. So with that question,

Des: take away the sugar mommy, sugar daddy part.

If a older woman, let's say a 73-year-old woman, okay, is messing with a 24-year-old man that's sick. Should that not get as, I feel like at the end of the day, even take away the fact that like, um, we do hate, we hate on men all the time, but we don't actually hate men. Take away the fact that like, no, we hate on women, men all the time.

We don't actually hate them, but take away that fact. Do we genuinely think they should both get just as much hate? If you are a 73-year-old woman, dating 24-year-old, should get both the same amount of hate, I think in roles reversed. I think if you're a 73-year-old woman, you're looking at that 24-year-old with the same intent that a 73-year-old man is dating.

Should woman, they should get the

Elena: same amount of hate. 1000% literally. What is it? Stone them. Stone them, which times

Des: No, no. So with that, [00:11:00] do you think, um, age gaps, at what age do you like, what number do you think age gaps is like? Okay,

Elena: I, I just said you're crossing. I feel like, I feel like over like 15 years, I feel like 15 years, 15 years is kind of where I, 'cause like, okay, 10 is like, fifteen's like, like 26, I'm like 30.

I'm like, oh

Des: my

Elena: God. Stop. Stop. I don't wanna be around you. But honestly, you know, that's kind of, I think that's, that's where I draw the line. I'd say 15. I'm like, okay. I'm judging, but I'm not judging. I'm like, I'm 20. I'm like, but you know what? I'm judging you. I shipped. Bill nine says a I did. I really did.

I'm not even gonna lie, but he was sh he was, um, I'm sorry. She was, um, he's 69 and she was 35. So I, that actually I think goes, what's that age gap? No, girl. [00:12:00] What is that age gap? Oh, it's like 32. I don't know. Math. It's not 32, 59. 35. It's 35. Wait, it's like, it is like 30. It's, it, it's 34. We're over here. Wait, okay.

That's 34 years. Oh, wait, so maybe I'm a liar. I don't know. I don't know. Well, what

Des: made that so much? Like what made that situation? It depends. It's the person,

Elena: it's

Des: the people. Like a lot of people will say it's the people, but it's the people. Because I, if we're gonna judge, if we're gonna sit here and judge a 30 some year, 34.

Sure. Let's say the right number, 34-year-old, your age gap, we should do the same with other people. Yeah. I think it's '

Elena: cause we like Caesar. Uh, yeah. And I just, because I like Caesar, but also this is the thing, it's like people are different because I have literally met like 30-year-old women and men who act like they're 18.

Mm-hmm. Right? So I think the reason why I was like, oh, bill nine. 'cause they seem like they would match each other's energy. They would have something to talk about. Yeah. It's like, do you have something to talk about or are you just corny? You anything in

Des: common? I don't know. [00:13:00] I think I'm opposite with that.

I just, I personally don't think, I think you could have something in common, but at what point does it grow, like still and weird? It has to get selling weird at one point. Like you're 30 some years, like you guys lived in different episodes, but also like, like one of your TVs was crackly and one is perfect and prestige.

Right? True. Like you guys, there's gonna be some clash. This TV's gonna crackle and crinkle out and next thing you know, you're gonna have to get a new battery. This one's still going. It's chugging. It is doing its thing. Yeah. You know like 500 K, what is it? Like hd? I don't know. And this one's like I can't go anymore.

Yeah,

Elena: yeah. Oh my gosh. No. Bill Knight, the signs guy. Bill. No, I'm sorry. The

Des: she my bro. You put those two people. That's why I'm saying you put those two people together. It's

Elena: like for some reason, like in my head I'm like, hell yeah, but you know what? I also see this one that you're talking about. And I'm like, Ugh.

But she's 24 and this is in her

Des: [00:14:00] S 30. But I do, I do think, and that's that's the other question I was gonna ask. Can it, does it matter once it gets to a certain age? So like if you hear a 70-year-old with a hundred year old, I'm like, ah, alright. What? It's 70 and a hundred. Like y'all both up there? Yeah.

Y'all, y'all both gone like y'all, it's okay. Like y'all good. Even when I hear like 65 with like 85, I'm like, Hmm, I don't know about that. Yeah, no, I'm chilling. Like that's great. I just, I think it's those younger years. Yeah. I think personally me, there can be a age gap. Like there, there can be a crazy age gap.

You can have a 30 year age gap, but that age gap has 50 to 70. So do you think it stops at 50? I don't think it stops at 50. I think 40. 40 and even like 70 or fine. Even

Elena: when if my mom told me, she was talking like, you're 40. No, no, no. Okay. Like my mom is in her fifties and if she told me she was talking to a 75-year-old, I would be like, what are you doing?

Like that would, I don't know. I'd be like, all right. No, I mean, I'd hype her up. I love my mama. I'd hype her up, but I'd be like. Even my, if my dad, he's in his fifties, started, [00:15:00] my dad in his fifties, started dating a like 75-year-old woman. I would be like, father, what are you doing? I

Des: don't know. I'm like, at 50.

You're like, there's so much growing you can do. Like you're, you're grown. You're like, as grown as you get. I feel like there's, you could say, and I'm like.

Elena: I think, I think 50 is like your fifth puberty, you know, like when you're, that's when you

Des: start throwing tantrums again. No, that's when

Elena: you stop giving a fuck.

You stop caring. You're 50. Yeah, you're 50. So you like, there's nothing the

Des: world can tell you that you haven't already done.

Elena: Exactly. You're 50. But also I feel like people shift from like caring what people think into this like state of like, I'm old, I'm gonna say what I wanna say. Like, you go to a nursing home, they'll look you up and down and they'll be like, I don't like your outfit.

Your outfit looks stupid. You need to get a new wig, get a nose job. You know, like they'll fucking like say shit like, hello. Yeah. Uh, but they don't care. I think that's a whole different, that's a whole different stage of life too. Yeah. Because you're going through that like, again, like a, in my head it seems like a fifth puberty.

'cause when your mindset changes like that drastically, I'm, I'm always like puberty, like my 20-year-old pub puberty, my 30-year-old [00:16:00] puberty, my 40-year-old puberty. There. I think it's gonna, I think it's real. 50. It that's, that's your last puberty. No, bro. No, that's your last puberty. 'cause then you get wise when you're on like the deathbed, right?

Then you're like, shit, I'm dying. You're on your deathbed. Yeah. And so then that's your last puberty. You're like, man, take

Des: me out. I'm tired. My bones hurt. I'm crackling. Crackling. I sound like a rice cake. I'm ready to go. Sound like a rice cake. Come get me my folks. Let me say goodbye. I'm ready. They've been annoying me for 50 years.

Take me out, bro. I couldn't imagine that. Like 80. I'm gonna be like, it is time to go. I ain't got no more The years left than me. Take me out. Okay. So I don't know. So I guess iss weird, I think, I think in the 2030 range is where like the ages, like if you're a 20-year-old or even a 30, 30 date and a 70-year-old, to me is weird.

I think once you hit in that 40, 35 though. That's what I'm saying, like maybe the early thirties. I think that 20, obviously the 10, the twenties and the thirties. I think [00:17:00] that's where it's like the age group can get weird. The ages. Yeah. It definitely gets a little weird there. The ages can get a little weird there, but I think anything past that, it's kind of like, all right, y'all could be 30 years apart or even 50.

And I'm like, all right, all right. Y'all, y'all both grown. I mean, y'all both grown as heck. Yeah, so I don't, I don't care. Okay. But I'm talking about if you're 70 something and you're dating a 20-year-old, she just got outta high school type shit. Oh yeah.

Elena: I thinks where, so that's another thing I, wait, can I bring something up?

Yeah. So a lot of OnlyFans influencers lie about their age and say that they're younger than they are to appeal to men more. That's weird. Which is, which also goes into like why people think it's weirder for like a. Men to be the older ones in relationships than women because they're doing that to appeal to men.

I mean, most of the people who are buying OnlyFans, watching porn, all of that, it's men. So I saw a thing, I don't know if it's true. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Opinion wise. So allegedly, yeah. Opinion. Or [00:18:00] not even opinion. Just like I saw a few things on it, and I don't know how true it is, but Sophie Rain is actually, people are saying she's 25.

Mm-hmm. But she just put out there that she like just turned 21 and before that she was 20 and they were like, how long have you been 19 for? Mm-hmm. And it's like a thing that a lot of OnlyFans models do, because guys like the idea of barely legal, which is. Fucking pedophilia. That's weird. That's sick.

That's so weird. You're a pedophile. If you are on your little, your little didly website. Okay. And doing your little, and you go to

Des: the lowest age you can find. Yeah. You're looking up like you're barely legal. Age 25. No, let's go to 19.

Elena: Yeah. Or if you're, no, if you're literally looking up like 18-year-old or you know, barely legal, that's fucking weird.

The fact that there's a whole subsection on these websites for barely legal is sick. It's sick, actually. Fucking sick. That's not sick getting

Des: money.

Elena: No, it's, but I don't care. Women, even women doing that, that's feeding into predatory behavior. So I'm not only gonna call out the men for watching it. I will also call out the women for lying about their age and feeding into that predatory behavior.

Mm-hmm. I don't care if it's for money. [00:19:00] If you cared about kids, if you cared about our future. You wouldn't be out there advertising yourself as 18 years old as fresh outta high school. That's fucking sick. That is very sick. It's sick. And I don't care. I said what I said.

Des: And we love OnlyFans workers. As long as you're telling the right age.

Yeah. And you're being completely honest. We have no hate against OnlyFans workers. No, I don't hate, I,

Elena: I have no hate against is super

Des: weird and disgusting.

Elena: Just like the whole line. What's wrong? Society. Yeah. That, that part is like, I, I don't know, because it really, it really takes two, it really takes two at the end of the day.

Mm-hmm. So, you know, if you're gonna, if you're gonna do sex work and be a sex worker, there's a, there's kind of a element to it where it's like. That is you're protecting kids. Yeah. You're protecting other people from men.

Des: Yeah.

Elena: When you're making sure you are honest about how old you are mm-hmm. When you're making sure you're not advertising barely legal.

I mean, even if you're 18 and you write on your thing barely legal like that, that those, you're just trying to get attention from that those words irritate me. It's just like, because like I feel bad [00:20:00] for like, what if there are people who go and they watch so much porn. Right. And they're men or women, I don't know, they watch so much porn and it says barely legal, and that's what they're into and they'll go out and try to find someone mm-hmm.

And hurt them.

Des: Yeah.

Elena: And, and assault them or something that's sick. And that's sick. Sick. Like people, because people, that's what happens. People get so into certain media, like they'll watch like scary movies all the time. Like that's how most of it starts. And they watch through the news and that kind of thing.

They go into these spirals. It's like almost like a media sort of psychosis. Mm-hmm. And that's what causes them to do these things. So, I don't know. At the end of the day, I, I

Des: just don't like that shit. So that it's the same as girls putting on those pigtails. Yeah. And trying to appeal to such a older audience by being super young.

I've seen that too. It's so sick. I hate seeing girls in pigtails. I'm not going Something about it didn't you hate on pigtails. So, bro, I hate pigtails. Like, something about it just gives, you're trying to look super young, but why are you trying to look that young? Yeah. What about you makes you feel like you're more attractive looking that young?

Because like, we all know, like I give my daughter pigtails. Mm-hmm. Like [00:21:00] that's the age group you're wearing pigtails like. I know what y'all would do,

Elena: but some people No, I feel like that, okay, that's going into a dangerous territory because that's some people's form of expression. Some people like, like, I don't know, pigtails is kind of childish.

I'm not gonna lie. I also have that opinion. You're trying to give a young, when I see it, I don't really hate on the lower pigtails as much as I hate on these, I think like a

Des: younger, uh, uh, lower, not a younger lower pigtail. Like there's ways to style it, but when you're going for the very, yeah. Sexual like pigtails right here with the little freaking

Elena: balls in it.

Oh yeah. And then if you're doing that and you're like fucking posting up in like a like tiny little, a young like school girl outfit or something, like

Des: young, you know what you're trying to do. You know what you're doing. Don't be weird. Yeah. Don't be disgusting. Yeah. Yep. I can see it. You're going for a audience and you're getting it and that's disgusting.

Mm-hmm. Yep. And now people are fetishizing our kids.

Elena: Yeah. So yeah. So there's a lot that goes into that. Okay. But also at the end of the day, I don't wanna also sit here and like blame women. Blame women. Blame women. No. Right. Because most of the time, [00:22:00] and it is sometimes women, most of the time it is men going and actually committing these crimes.

Yep. Have some fucking self-control. Mm-hmm. Okay. Don't do that. How about you just don't do that? The Oh, oh my God. Don't fucking do that. Like I, I'm sorry. It's just like, in my head I'm like, okay, so there's this, that feeds into it. Mm-hmm. Right? And there's a certain amount of responsibility that goes into not feeding into it.

Yeah. And then there's a certain amount of responsibility that goes into, how about like, not committing like a crime and hurting people, like, you know, stay home, not going through with something like that. Go get some mental health. Yeah. Go get

Des: mental health. Like go to the doctor, go get mental health. If you're having weird ass feelings like that, go to the doctor.

Yeah. Subject, jump. Yeah, we're gonna jump subjects. Yeah. Wasn't 'cause my blood. Blood pressure's high. Wasn't, yeah. Let's, she's like, we got, we got off on a tangent. Subjects high. All right. Okay. So as everyone knows, I date a teacher, right? She does date a teacher. One of the biggest things about dating a teacher is they send you teacher tiktoks all day long.

So now my phone is full of [00:23:00] teacher. Tiktoks. And so now I be surfing through my teacher tiktoks. I'm all up in the teacher TikTok vibes. And one thing, they got drama in the teacher tiktoks bro. Drama bro. And one of the dramas is how you dress at school. Ooh, shit, what the fuck? I know, right? I didn't know this was a thing.

I didn't know this was a thing. I didn't know this was a thing. And I'm gonna ask you 'cause you. You dress outgoing, you dress different. Mm-hmm. You've got your own style and ship. Mm-hmm. But at what point is it weird?

Elena: So what do you mean? Are you, oh, are you talking about like the teacher bay stuff? Are you talking about teacher bay?

Uh, I don't care. Teacher bay. Eh, she's talking about I don't care. Look, I, I know exactly what you're talking about. No. Okay. So I was gonna say, are you talking about students or teachers? Because I actually hate the, no, definitely. Teachers. I kind of hate the whole dress code thing for students. I feel like they should be able to express themselves as long as they're not like, actually, like

Des: I think there's a limit on

Elena: that.

There's a limit, but I feel like the limit is too high right now. When you go

Des: harder on the [00:24:00] women for what they're wearing. Mm-hmm. Then you do, for the men, that's, that's a problem. Really childish. Like, I can't have my shoulders showing, oh yeah. It's so sexy. Like, ew, I think there's a certain limit. It's, it's, I think that dress code very much affects.

Women more than it does men. 1000%. Like men's is like, what is even men's, I don't even know what the men's uniform is. Like, don't have a shirt

Elena: on. Don't, don't not

Des: have a shirt on. Don't have gang signs on your shirt type shit. Yeah. Oh yeah. But like women's is like, no skinny straps, no skirts. Yeah. Knees, your, your shorts have to need certain of your knees.

Da. I think there's above your knees. I think there's definitely like. It should be some lenient when it comes to students. But I also think you shouldn't be coming in and a crop top this high and like Yep. When I was in high school, I know you was acting up. I dress code. I knew you was acting up all the time.

The time. All the time. Your mom was stressed, bro.

Elena: I know Your mom was stressed. They got to a point where they stopped dress coding me. 'cause I literally was like, I don't care. Like they would send me the office and I'd get it. She was coming

Des: in and kneehigh socks and

Elena: [00:25:00] stripper boots. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I was wearing like crop tops, like spaghetti strap shirts. Mm-hmm. And I would wear like, I don't know, like. Um, I would wear like a skirt. Mm-hmm. And it was like too far above the knee or a dress. What was too far? Like

Des: how, how high are we talking

Elena: about? I mean, I didn't have my ass out. I, I, it was just like my midt thigh, but it was, it's a southern, I think it keeps or show when there's a problem.

That's a, yeah. You know, I think that's

Des: when it's a problem. But I don't think you should limit skirts. Yeah. I think if your cheeks are shown, I don't think it should be, you gotta have it down to your ankles. My arms is long. Mm-hmm. And I used to dress like a bad bitch in the back in days period. All right.

Okay. Bad knees. And I wear a skirt to school, bro. And I put my hands down. That's what would happen to me. Every time I put my hands down, bro, my touches my knees, I'd be like

Elena: this all

Des: day. You know what I mean? I, they'd be like, put your shoulders down. I'd be like, they are down. My shoulders are down. Yeah.

Literally. But like, skirts should be allowed. And my skirts were not short like they, but I think if your ass cheeks are out, that's 1000%. Like there should be a limit in that. [00:26:00] Okay. Teachers though. Yeah. Teachers though. Come on now. You seen Teacher Bay?

Elena: Yeah, I seen Teacher Bay some. Okay. So some of her outfits.

I was like, this ain't shit because people, I mean, some of

Des: them were not bad. They were not

Elena: people. I was like, damn. Some of it was just like, she's got a body and like, honestly, I feel bad for a lot of teachers who just have like bow. Yeah. A big booty. But yeah, they got a big, they can't hide. It's hard to hide that shit.

Like, what the fuck? She's supposed to wear Mumo every day. Yeah. Like I, no. So, um, so some of it I was like, this ain't bad. But some of it I was like, oh,

Des: we going to the club. We gonna the club. I mean, she had one. Straight heels and there was straps going up her legs on saw. And I was like, at what point are we tea?

Like your legs don't hurt your, your feet don't hurt. Mm-hmm. I know your feet hurt. You standing for eight, nine hours a day. Your feet hurt. Who are you trying to impress? Who are you? That's what I was about to say. Who are you trying to impress? Because you're

Elena: teaching kids. Who are you trying trying to Kids.

The kids don't care. I, you know what I like, if I was a teacher, I would do Miss Frizzle outfit. Inspo. Okay. Magic School bus put on a wig and shit. Yeah. I, I, no red wig and [00:27:00] everything. I would be walking up in there. Miss Frizzle. Okay. My dress, if whatever we're learning today, the whole dress, it's gonna be modest.

Okay. 'cause I'm not trying to impress these kids. I don't, but I'm a like that in general. But that's

Des: the thing. That's where it comes down to. They do that. Especially, you know,

Elena: she's, what is she middle school or high school? She's not young. I think she's middle school. She's middle school, bro. In one of the videos I saw, 'cause I went down a rabbit hole of this too.

Yeah. But in one of the videos, you could literally hear someone go like, oh, that's your teacher. She's bad. Like, exactly. You know, they're like, and she's like.

Des: And she, no, she was literally like, oh, like you like that a from a middle schooler or high school. I can't remember exactly what it was, but I mean, I don't remember.

I don't know. But point is, is that is disturbing. I said what I was saying, yes. I said what I, that's my opinion. That is my opinion. I agree with her, but that is my opinion. Okay. Opinion allegedly. Allegedly my opinion. That's my opinion. I don't know. That's weird to me. I, but going back to, there are some women that can't help it.

They got a big booty. Mm-hmm. They got big boobs. Like can't, and you're not gonna be overly like [00:28:00] in the morning, let me make sure this looks right, but going out of your way. My problem is, is when teachers go out of their way to lay out their clothes, like, yeah, my scrappy, no Shely had time to get ready. I time three hours.

I know she was getting ready at the club. Lip gloss, glossed up. I mean full face and makeup, which. You can wear full face. Ma. I'm talking about none of, if y'all know who I'm talking about, y'all know who I'm talking about. If you don't, don't judge me. It go look. Yeah. Like go look. Well this

Elena: is, this is what I'm saying.

The reason I said full face, I'm not judging a full face, but that's how I know you had time. Yeah. To see what you were gonna wear and what you were gonna put on in front of these kids. Yeah. Now, if you don't go get you a Miss Frizzle ass dress with a bunch of what we learning about, what are we learning about?

We're learning about worms. Okay. So your dress gonna have a bunch of little worm print on it. Okay. All over it. And you're gonna be like, and today class we're learning about fucking worms. Well, don't say that, but like we're learning about worms. This is why I'm not a teacher. Me. That's why I was gonna say, that's why I'm not a teacher.

The guy Sit

Des: your ass down in the back. You hear me? Sit your at. Administrate. I told you about this boy last week. [00:29:00] Yeah. That's why I'm not a teacher. I wouldn't get nothing done. But there was this one TikTok of the other girl, and she like cropped teachers' bay stuff and she said she showed her fit. And it was like Nike gear.

She had Nike shoes. She said, me when I'm chasing your badass kids outta school, that would be me as a teacher. Like I'm in my sports fit. Ready to run after your kids?

Elena: No. 'cause gym teacher fits period. Period. Like that period. That's, that's easy. Like literally sweatpants in a sweatshirt. But I don't think you don't see them in heels.

But I don't know if the, I don't know if, um, like the non gym teachers can do sweatpants in a sweatshirt. Like, isn't there, like a code had leads their code? Yeah. You can't do that. It's only teacher. Sorry, I didn't mean to like be, I wanna know, but like the, they can't do that.

Des: I mean, there's a code, but like, there should also, if we're gonna hound on our kids so hard for wearing.

I know if a freaking elementary school or middle school or high schooler came up in some strappy six inch heels. Heels with a to the office. They get sent to the office. Why is that teacher allowed to walk around like that? [00:30:00] Mm-hmm. Hold the same standards you hold my kid to, bro. They used to put duct tape on my rib jeans.

I would have

Elena: ripped cheese and they would put duct work. Yeah. Patch work. Ripped

Des: jeans, fricking duct tape the, the rips. And it

Elena: wasn't even bad. It was like, and you like, I'm just gonna take these off when I go to the bathroom. No. Literally no. I would go on the way back to my class, take them off. Yeah. I was like you.

Des: I was showing less skin when I was tearing my pants like this, where the rips were my anxiety. I was tearing them bitches up. Yeah. I was showing left skin to teacher bay. Yeah. And then she has a second account. Have you seen her second account? No, I ain't seen the second account. Girl throwing ass. I hope she got her students blocked.

I would hope she got everyone blocked. I saw there's a certain standard you gotta be.

Elena: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw a comment and it was one girl and she said that she had two separate Instagrams. 'cause she was doing like middle or high school. Mm-hmm. And her students would try to find her and one was like her teacher one.

Mm-hmm. Where she's like, this is your homework since you wanna follow me on Instagram.

Des: Yeah.

Elena: Do your homework. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? And then the other one was like her, like normal, one personal. And she would have all of her kids write [00:31:00] down their Instagram on the board so she could go block them from her personal account.

Des: I think my thing is, is I even tell my girl this all the time, you should be able to have a life outside of teaching. I don't think there should be some strict, like you're being monitored all the time or yada yada yada. Or you should be judged for what your partner's saying or da da da da. I, I don't think that, but I think there's a limit when, you know, you have that much publicity going on already for your outfits and you have announced second account where you're, I mean.

Bro, I'm gonna show Elena after this, but you are throwing ass to the point. You can see prints. Oh, like of everything. Like, oh, I'm sorry. And she, and, and one of her posts had no shame. She, I can't, I'm not gonna quote it word for word 'cause I don't remember it, but it was just like, when you're, when you're getting hate for being a badass teacher, like something like that.

Like you have no like just. Change your time and you're already

Elena: going viral, like your students are gonna see [00:32:00] it and your students' parents, you know, your students are gonna see it. Your parent, parents, the parents.

Des: It's, I, I give it so little time before she's out of school. There's so much more to

Elena: being a teacher than like teaching.

It's like, okay, if you are getting that much virality, wouldn't you think of like the impact you're having on your students at that point? Yeah, because Loki, if I was a teaching and I was a teacher and I had all my videos going crazy and whatever my responsibility was, those kids, I would delete all my social media at that point.

Yeah, because why would you want that now if your angle is actually money and you became, well, I know you didn't become a teacher for the money. Yeah, I'm sorry. Real, I You didn't become a teacher for the money, so, um, sadly, you guys deserve a lot more though. Yeah. No, real teachers do deserve more, uh, better pay so much, better pay 1000%, but.

Um, 'cause that's like a full, like nine to five ass, like full, like literally my

Des: girl will literally work a whole eight to five and then come home and lesson plan for three extra hours. That's like

Elena: your whole life. You're just teaching, I mean,

Des: all Monday through Friday. And then on Saturday you get a one day break, and then Sunday you're already lesson planning for the next freaking week.

No, I know. [00:33:00] And then

Elena: all Saturday she's like, so this happened at the school and this happened at the school. This, yeah. So it's just something you're constantly thinking about. I'm so sorry. It's something you're constantly thinking about. Yeah. And so you deserve, like they deserve to get paid more. A thousand percent.

They deserve, get, pay up

Des: the teacher's

Elena: wages. But I please, I wonder if they do the whole thing like that. So it's like people aren't becoming teachers just for the pay.

Des: I don't know. I, I think that in any job, you're gonna have people chasing money and not being good at their job. Yeah. But I think this comes an instance where she didn't get into it for the love for her kids.

She could've gotten into it for a different reason. I don't know what the reason is. 'cause it goes into pay, but like, it wasn't the pay girl. You need to go find a different, it doesn't sound like it was education. Yeah.

Elena: I mean, maybe college, teach college at that point, because I feel like Okay. Professors at that point, that's

Des: really scary.

Elena: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Profess like, I feel like professors, I, I don't really care what they wear as much because people in college are focused on college. Mm-hmm. If you're paying for it, I don't know. I'm pay, I pay for college outta pocket. So if I'm paying for college Right. I'm not worried about what the hell my professor's wearing.

You know, like, I don't [00:34:00] care. I'm an adult, you know, I can sit there and not look at them like that, you know? But, um, it, I think there comes, like what we're talking about age differences. Mm-hmm. You just gonna text?

Des: No, I'm looking at it. You did this last time. You over here judging me. You go, bitch, this is how she act.

I be in two relationships, bro. Uh, one is my love and one is this.

Why

Elena: you could, she was gonna say, this bitch or something. She's like, delete it. No, don't, don't a

Des: bitch. Okay. I've literally never looked at you and been like, you bitch. No,

Elena: but you've been like, bitch. I mean, no, run it back. She's called me bitch before I be like, bitch, I bet you she, no, I guarantee you. But that's, that's like girl slang for like girl, girl.

Yeah. Oh my girl, girl. I'll be like, you bitch. I do that with all my friends though. I act like that. She

Des: be going hard sometimes. She be like, bitch, no. Okay. I be doing that. I'm like, ugh.

Elena: No. I was talking about like how, like what you were saying, like when my, when my friends, they'll be on their phone and stuff.

They'll be like, oh, I'm on my, and I'm be like, why are you on on [00:35:00] phone right now? And they'll be like, am I dating you bro? All my home girls, she so mad. I

Des: can't, I can't get on TikTok or nothing because I'm hanging

Elena: out with you.

Des: I can't, like if I'm hanging out with someone,

Elena: if I'm hanging out with someone, stress me out.

Why are we sitting on our phone? Like,

Des: it's like, it's like that thing. Let me address this real quick. Answer this question for me. Oh great. Now I gotta answer question. Go ahead. She be irritating me. Okay. Answer this question for me. Do you think you should go to the bed at the same time as your partner every night?

No. Hell no. Fuck no. This girl, girl be dragging me upstairs. It's time for bed. It's night, night time. No, I be laying there in the dark, like get off of one. She two sheets. She's snoring. I'm like, three sheets, four. She,

Elena: no, no. You know who did that to me. Wait, I can't say the name. Don't, yeah. 6:00 AM Uhuh. No, because I am a night creature.

I am awake till four. I, I stayed up. No, I literally stayed up last night till seven 30 in the morning. I literally, no, that's 30. Ridiculous. Whenever I texted you, I [00:36:00] fell asleep right after. It was like eight something. Let me find it. I stayed up. Why are you on your phone anyway? I stayed up from, hold on.

You called yourself out. Hold on. Because see, I don't, I

Des: don't

Elena: care about none of that. You can be on your phone

Des: longer.

Elena: It said. I said, I said, I said, okay. 7 52. I texted you. 7:52 AM and then I went to bed. I'm not going to sleep at 9:00 PM Oh my God. I'm not gonna sleep at 8:00 PM I'm not going to sleep at 12.

It's just not gonna happen. The earliest you're getting me in bed is 2:00 AM That is the earliest I used to be. I used once upon a time, I had my whole like brain together and I was like a wellness girl and I woke up at 5:00 AM when I was 18. Okay. I did like, I took a hella credits in community college and I was waking up early.

I was going to work out, make me a breakfast, did my classes, came home, went to martial arts, came home, did me a dinner. Went to sleep at eight. At 8:00 PM I hated. I hated myself. I literally hated myself the whole time I did that. I love that life. I wanted to, that sounds grow. No, I wanted to throw myself off a bridge.

You know where [00:37:00] I thrive. I thrive

Des: in the night. In

Elena: the night. I'm so happy. You know what I be, I be, she's like

Des: a freaking vampire. No, I be

Elena: at the, I literally go to the bar, have a drink, and sit here and work and I get everything done. I'm making my money, I'm doing my schoolwork. I'm not bothering no one.

I'll call

Des: her at like one o'clock and she'll. Hello. And I'm like, I've been up since 7:00 AM in the morning. I'm like, about to go to sleep. It's my bedtime now. I don't care. And she's like, hello? And I'm like, I was just making sure you alive.

Elena: Yeah. It'll be like, make sure you were alive. 1:00 PM

Des: sometimes 5:00 PM I'll,

Elena: but, but if I have something to do in the morning, I'll wake up.

I will wake up. She'll wake

Des: up like that.

Elena: Yeah. And she's got something

Des: to do.

Elena: No. If I, if I have a responsibility, if I made an appointment, if I, even if my friends are like, Hey, do you wanna go somewhere at eight? I'll get up, I'll go, I'll make a, I'll make a deal out of it. I'll be like,

Des: oh, eight in the morning.

I in the morning. I don't wanna get up at eight,

Elena: but I still go. You had me up at 6:00 AM once for reason. It was funny though. It was funny. We were both

Des: dying. I don't know what you're talking about. Just me. Yeah. We was both dying. No, no, no. We were both dying. Yeah.

Elena: I was like. [00:38:00] No coffee yet either. 'cause we had to be somewhere at a certain time, so I had no coffee and I was like, we

Des: didn't get coffee

Elena: till the two

Des: hour trip was done.

Elena: I was like,

Des: oh my God, I don't wanna fucking live anymore. We were listening to music. We was vibing. Yeah, we was barely alive. I was like, call me when you want. Call me when you need. Wait, what was it? Was it like a little no? Yeah, we were listening to stupid stuff when I was open. Yeah. Not that the other eye matters, but anyway.

All right.

Elena: What were what? Go back. What were you talking about? Girl? Subject.

Des: Jump,

Elena: run back Q and A. Oh, QI

Des: knew you were gonna name my fucking list. So actually no,

Elena: no, no. Oh wait. Q and as We'll answer questions. Okay. And she

Des: had something she really wanted to do on this podcast. Okay.

Elena: So one question I keep getting on my page, which is kind of funny, is does Dez have an OnlyFans?

Des: I swear to

Elena: God

Des: you ain't get that cut question. Yes I did. I got like three times. You got no damn OnlyFans. [00:39:00]

Elena: She does not have an OnlyFans, but I got it like three times. I think they were joking.

Des: I was like, this does have an om. Does Elena have on OnlyFans? No. Fuck no. We already answered this question. Yeah, she has an OnlyFans

Elena: and what's, yeah, go find it.

Go. What is it? What's my OnlyFans? Because I don don't, I'm not, I'm

Des: not airing out her, her username. I fucking, but she has an only fans. I don't

Elena: have a fucking OnlyFans. Go search for it. Inly don't have episode. A fucking episode. On the

Des: next episode, I'll fuck are doing her only fans. No. Fuck you. Why are you doing that?

I do not have a fucking only fans. She's lying. I don't have, no, I'm not lying. Next

Elena: question. No. Fuck. Come back for the next episode. Episode. I'm not tell you what

Des: OnlyFans it's, I

Elena: don't have a fucking OnlyFans. I

Des: don't have that. Don't advertise that next week. The next week bro is gonna be What's her OnlyFans?

What's her OnlyFans? No, she gets that question. I don't have, she gets that question so much that in her bio she has a only fan button that's like psych. I don't have an OnlyFans. No,

Elena: I have a link tree. And then my bio on the ling tree is, haha, you got trolled. I don't have an OnlyFans.

Des: Everybody thinks she makes money [00:40:00] from having an OnlyFans.

I'm like, bro, I swear to you, never. She does not have an OnlyFans. I've n no, I'm kidding. She does. Next episode, I don't have a fucking

Elena: OnlyFans Next question. Okay. Um, why does Des hate lavender marriages so much?

Des: You guys got so much, I got so much hate for that and I just found out about that, but I don't care.

Okay. I think you should be true to yourself. Like I get in other countries and stuff, like you can't boo who you truly are, but I need you to love yourself. Like I need you to love the fuck outta yourself. I know that coming out to a family member and I mean, I did it. Hello? Like I had a very conservative grandmother, like it was very scary coming out.

But at one, at some point you have to be like, okay, I've gotta live for myself. Hmm. So not that I hate you guys in a lavender marriage. No, I don't hate you guys. I do get it. But also like I want you guys to be true to yourself. Come out and love yourself 'cause it's great out here in these streets. I'm having a great time out here and I want you to have a great time with me.

She ain't even in the streets, [00:41:00] she's wiped up. So I get as much hate as I want, but I'm doing it for your benefit. Like I'm telling you the truth. And you might be young, you might be old, you might be afraid to come out. You, I don't know what it is, but it's great out here. There's a lot of nice people. I mean, there's some mean people, but I mean, yeah.

What you going, you're mean? You know? Uh oh, you don't like me 'cause I'm gay, I don't

Elena: care. I do this all the time. When I'm at the bar and I'm talking to people, I met this one girl last night and she was like, I just get really anxious. Like, um, she was talking about how she got really anxious, like talking to people and like sometimes she'll get drunk and then go home and be like thinking about how like people don't like her.

If she made people not like her. And I was like, this is what you gotta think about because this is what you're doing.

Des: Oh my God, are people judging me? Oh God, people are judging you. What the fuck is that gonna even do to you? Nothing's gonna

Elena: happen to you. People don't even think about you if, if people are ju no, people probably aren't thinking about you.

And if they are like

Des: they're weird for that, nothing's gonna happen. First of all, literally nothing's gonna happen. They're weird and they have something wrong with their self. If they're sitting there [00:42:00] looking at you, judging you, criticizing you, whatever it may be, it's not their life to, they're not gonna like punch you in problems.

Elena: Like they're not gonna like beat you up. And if they punch you, ooh, if they punch you, like, what? That's a free fall. You won't die. I'm gonna go anger out. You know? Like that's what I always think is like if I'm scared to do something or say something, I'm like, am I gonna die? Probably not. Okay. I weigh, I

Des: weigh what's the worst thing that could happen right now?

That's what I do in situations. I always say this, I'm like, what's the worst thing that could happen right now? People talk about me. Oh no. Anyway, so she stresses me.

Elena: Anyway. Anyway. Anyway, anyway, anyway. Have you noticed like, okay, period, we be getting hella comments and it's like the Carolina promoters.

Yeah. What is that? No, they try to scam you outta your money. So what they do is they'll like, I don't even look at 'em. No, they'll, yeah, they'll comment. They'll be like, can you share here? And then it's like, the inbox emoji here, do you wanna promote it here? And I'm like, no, but that's like our biggest fan, so you know what?

Shout out. And y'all pushing us a little bit. Know they'd be like comments in it. I'm like, yeah, put it out.

Des: I mean, they'd be under it too. Yeah. Yeah. [00:43:00] It's, I just thought it was a scam. I just been ignored. It is, it is. It's, it's just like,

Elena: period. Thanks. Like thanks. I'd be like excited. I'm like, oh my God. A comment.

And it's like, and then can you promote? Can you

Des: follow,

Elena: push, follow? I'm like, all right. Bet. I mean, we could follow you.

Des: Period. Period.

Elena: Okay. What are y'all's favorite podcasts to listen to? Like besides, well I don't really re-watch ours unless I'm coming up, but like, what's your favorite podcast? I don watch our podcast.

I'm gonna talk about this. I'm gonna talk about this 'cause she's gonna watch it. I don't my someone I'm really close with. Like literally like my second mom made me sit and watch the premiere of which one it was the third one. And I was sitting there just cringing at myself. I was cringing at myself and she was sitting there.

She made me some spicy vegan chicken nuggies and she put them right in between us and was like, we're gonna watch the premiere. And I was like,

Des: I was sitting there like, oh my God, please. I would've been like, this is such a good episode. I know. Literally. Mm-hmm. That was me. That was literally me. I was like, yay.

[00:44:00] I love watching you. I'm so cringe. Yeah, I know.

Elena: I'm like, ugh.

Des: I don't wanna hear myself

Elena: talk. I don't wanna do it. But I clip most of the stuff. So I do like, like I, what I do is I like scrub and I'm like with the captions on and I'm like, okay, that seems funny. I'm, did I say that? Yeah. She'll like watch back the clips.

She's like, I'm like, I said that shit. Why'd you let me say that shit,

Des: bitch, she told me to shut the fuck up. No, I'm not gonna shut the fuck up.

Elena: It's a podcast, but I'm trying to shut the fuck up. We gonna stay here like this

Des: because we saying shit we ain't supposed to be saying. I don't care. Yeah. I'm not trying to do all that.

I don't care. It's my opinion. Okay. Everything. This is my opinion. So what's your favorite podcast to listen to? I don't think I have a favorite podcast. You don't listen

Elena: to any? I don't listen to podcasts. I used to really like the woman with Tricia Pattis and Ethan. It was front of me. Okay. I watched that for a little bit.

Yeah, that one was good. But yeah, you know what I like listening to Murder. Not No Murder. Mystery Makeup is YouTube videos. What's her other one? Dark History. The Dark History podcast. She has podcast. Yeah. And it's about like all the

Des: dark history. Now I watch her on YouTube. Bailey Singer. I ain't gonna [00:45:00] lie to you.

Like YouTube, my junk. I do both. Yeah, I do both. I surprisingly haven't gotten like, gotten super heavy. I did listen, like I listen to books on it sometimes, like if I'm doing a long travel. But if I'm being honest, I ain't got time to listen podcasts. Oh. And when I'm in the car, she's silent. Oh, I need time to re-configure my brain.

No, she fucking, she stresses about that. I don't wanna hear that. I don't wanna hear

Elena: that. I need peace. You're insane. I can't hear. I have, my music is all the way up. It is all the way. She'll

Des: pull up and I know they think the most hoodlum person is pulling into the driveway and she's like, BA. And I'm like.

Dang. I get in the car, you open the car door, it's like, gosh,

Elena: no. I turn it down. When I go into your neighborhood. You don't? Yes, I, well, I do. Turn it down. If that's low, that's low. That's the problem. That's, that's like a turn down. Like, yeah. When we

Des: get in, the car's shaking. You're like back massage. Mm-hmm.

Okay. Mm-hmm. Do your thing. Yeah. No. If

Elena: something's wrong with my car, I'm not gonna hear it. [00:46:00] I'm not, because my music will be up. That's a good thing.

Des: If you have a little, if you, this is the trick to everything. If you got a car issue and something starts, ding, ding, dinging, turn the music and go,

Elena: there you go.

Allegedly, and then you can't

Des: hear it anymore. There's not a problem.

Elena: No. I'm not responsible for giving that advice. If something happens to your car and you get in a crash, I'm not be responsible for that. My opinion. That's, yeah. Allegedly, you could turn the volume up, ignore the problem. That's what I do.

I don't

Des: care.

Elena: I mean, good for you.

Des: Tired could be flat. Boom, boom, boom, boom. I'm turning up the music. Boom. Okay.

Elena: I also, I al, sorry, I'm like switching. I'm going, I'm switching back. I also posted on. TikTok story. I put on my TikTok story and I was like, tell tell us Secrets for the podcast. So we're gonna read your secrets.

Secrets, we're gonna read your secrets and tell the, tell the people that watch our podcast. Does it show their now? No, no, I didn't do that. I'm not doing that. I just cut. I just, uh, copied and pasted it. Um, and I also summarized some of them because it was like, [00:47:00] I can't fucking do all that. I made them all a sentence.

'cause I didn't want this to be like

long, you know, like, ah, I didn't want it to be fucking long. Okay, so here's the first one that is insane. Actually insane. Someone said that they have eaten something out of the trash because I was too lazy to make food. Period. Yes. Actual trash.

Des: I don't know. It depends. What? All right. Hear me out. Hear me out. Did you just change the bag? What? Don't judge me. Did you just change the bag? Like is the bag empty? Did you throw away the trash? And the bag is empty? How long has it been in the trash can though? There's a lot of questions that are coming with this.

Like, was it dirty that all I got, it was dirty or sick, but I mean, if it was empty.

Who knows where our food

Elena: been, bro. I mean, true. We're in America. We're like, all of our food is like so [00:48:00] highly is in it. What's in it? What are we eating? Probably rats from the sewer. Probably like, um, like a mc allegedly. McDonald's, um, chicken nugget. A a, your opinion a chicken nugget. Wait, hold on. Let me, let me, lemme back it up.

Not McDonald's fast food chicken nuggets. Any of 'em?

Des: What the hell is in that? It it, I mean, I don't know. You can leave a McDonald's. I mean, you can leave that fast food chain restaurant that I'm talking about. It's burger and fries out for years and that shit don't, it looks the same go way. What? The, it just solidifies.

What the f And I eat it. I be in it. I be in it too. I be in it too. I mean a sauce. Let me get a big. Big burger. Big burger. You know what I miss. That's what I'm saying. It really, y'all might find me nasty, but it depends on the situation.

Elena: Yeah. Because real, if you're gonna eat McDonald's, you better be prepared to eat a mango outta the trash.

When it's a clean bag. When it's a clean bag, it gotta a clean bag though. Or, but the mango's not peeled.

Des: You wash it off. I

Elena: don't know if it's in the draft, but it [00:49:00] really depends. Like this so vague. Next question because we sound

Des: crazy.

Elena: No, we don't sound crazy. We sound normal. Everyone else is crazy. I'm not.

I've stalked someone online for hours and accidentally liked a photo from eight years ago.

Des: Gosh man. I'm sorry. And it always be the one at the bottom. The last one. You can't even get away with it. Like, you're like, you're like scrolling. You like, you're like, and you like go to, you got like five. Yeah. And then you re liked it.

I'm sorry. I, I was like, I ain't gonna lie. That's something I would do that heat rush into your heart. I'm so sorry you did that. You just, we've all done it. No, you just gotta

Elena: get a point to where you don't care.

Des: You just gotta leave it. Don't even undo it. Just leave it. Leave it. Be like, I meant to do that.

Just be like, yeah, I was scrolling and I saw this, it popped up on my feed. Like, no, it didn't. I'm lying. I'm lying like a mo. I'm lying. If I ever liked yourself and it was always at the bottom, I was stalking your shit. Just

Elena: own, I'm gonna just own it. If they, if they gonna be my friend or whatever, like [00:50:00] they gonna have to know.

Yeah. Like I be, I be shocking. I was

Des: looking at you back when you was emo.

Elena: I've stalk. Yeah. No, I've stalked everybody. I've stalked, I've stalked de I've stalked. Oh girl. I've stalked everybody. All y'all's accounts. Yeah. You ain't safe. No one's safe. No one's safe. I've

Des: stalked everyone all the way back. I went back to her ears where her bangs were like this.

No, I showed you that. And she was taking pictures with her mom all the time. Miss Loretta.

Elena: Oh my God. Oh my God. You forgot that existed, didn't you? No. Don't even, don't even, don't even talk to me. God,

Des: this is my,

Elena: I have no shame. None.

Des: That's how she looked, bro. She had her be like. Cut my, my two pieces.

Elena: Pieces. Pieces. This is exactly why I get offended when people say that I look like a Fox News news anchor.

That's, that is literally how she looked. No, because that, it pisses me off. Okay. Because I'm not a Fox News news anchor girl. Not putting it back. I'm playing, hold on.

Des: That's literally how she [00:51:00] looked. I was just giggling. I was like, I know she went back to mine. I'm over here pregnant now. Look at me. Yeah.

She was like, she had a floral

Elena: dress on and she like had the picture like this. It's like 2015 too. She's like,

Des: is she over here? Are you mowing?

Elena: Yeah.

Des: I was over here like,

Elena: yeah.

Des: She was like, she no. Girly as hell, girl. I was like, fuck yeah. What is that? Who is that? Yeah. Is that, that's my mom friend. Okay.

Elena: Okay. Okay. No, next one. I've typed out a 10 paragraph text to someone and then deleted it because I was too scared to send it.

I've done it too. That ain't like y'all. This is not ju, this ain't juicy to me. That not secret. I've done it. 10

Des: paragraph. You think you're

Elena: alone.

Des: 15 paragraph. Oh honey. I mean, my whole feelings and them been like, and I'm gonna get an okay cut. So I'm gonna just go ahead and delete this message right now.

Cut. I'm gonna get an Okay. I'm gonna just cut it out. But you know

Elena: what, sometimes I'll copy it and paste it in my notes. I was gonna say, sometimes I'll take pictures of it. I'll be like, [00:52:00] just so I like remember what I was gonna say. Yeah. Because like it's, it's good to see that because if you want a relationship

Des: where you having to do a whole essay and then you gotta delete it, don't be in that relationship because that's stressful.

That's stressful. I know your feelings.

Elena: You know what I've seen a lot of dudes do, I haven't done this, but I've, I've dated men and they have done this. They will, I've dated

Des: men.

Elena: Yes. They, they will write when they wanna tell me something in their notes app. I've had like, there's been like three guys that will do that and they'll like write paragraphs in their notes app.

It's one dude, I, dude I talked to, like came to my house, um, knocking. Do you remember that? Knocking. And I didn't know it was coming. And he like, came in and like read me notes from his notes app. And I was like, oh, you came p Yeah, he came prepared. Well, 'cause I broke up with him like two days before and he was like, you're not breaking up with me.

And I was like, um, yeah,

Des: I am. That's not an option. Yeah, not an option. So if someone's trying to break up with you, leave.

Elena: Yeah. Yeah. So like that. So I'm not judging that. You know, sometimes people be doing the notes app, they'll come to your [00:53:00] door with their notes ready and some people I've got something

Des: I need to say.

Elena: No, literally pull it up literal like hold. Yeah. Literally I was like, I was sitting there like, okay, period. Can I please kicking around real quick? Yeah, I know. I was like sitting there making some food or something. You got it? Yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay. You know, like, what's going on here? But yeah, so there's that.

Um, I'm not judging that. That's not, that Ain't everyone's done that. All right. Someone said, I constantly overshare personal drama to strangers online and immediately regret it. Same. Me too. I don't do that. I, I've done it about four times. Stranger

Des: online is crazy. I thought you were gonna say, like, you know, when you're in a setting and you're talking to someone, you start oversharing.

You're like, at what point can I go back? Like, at what point can I just shut up and rewind back like a minute? Because I've just overshared and they're looking at me like I'm stupid. They're like, they're like, oh, I just met you. And you're like, oh shit. Yeah, I really just said that shit. I didn't mean to say that.

Oh, but you

Elena: know what? I know I have, but online

Des: you had the chance to backspace [00:54:00] that I'm judging. Well, it depends. We're you people go live. I need, I need you to send another one, but I need you to send it in. So in very high depth. Yeah.

Elena: I lo I, I don't, I'm not gonna say I constantly do that, but sometimes I have like been like live or chilling or even here

Des: and I've talked and I've said things and then I'm like, yeah, that's why I don't watch podcasts.

'cause I know I'll be saying shit. I'll be like, oh my god. Oh my

Elena: God. Who said it? Did I

Des: say

Elena: that shit? Yeah. But honestly I'm trying to be real, so I don't care. I'm gonna just be real. I'm gonna be real valid. That's the point

Des: of this podcast. Be real.

Elena: Yeah, real be real open, honest opinions. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Another one is I've stalked an X while drunken sent them a 50 message chain. I immediately regretted. Oh my God.

Des: I mean, you do what you gotta do, you know? Been there, done that.

Elena: I'm like, ter, I'm terrified of that. Like I can't do like 50 messages. I would be like, oh my God, I'm sorry. At what point is

Des: it embarrassing?

It? It does get embarrassing. Yeah. I'm like, okay, I've done it before. You think [00:55:00] you going downhill? Yeah.

Elena: I'm more of a one text and then think about it all night.

Des: No, I've done it. Like, you know you're typing and you're like, answer me, please answer me. Why are you not answer? That's embarrassing. Don't do that if you're in a relationship where you gotta do that.

Just,

Elena: I did that in like middle school. I was like, stop talking. Hey, when are we getting married? I'd be like, 11.

Des: When are we getting married? It's crazy. Hey, hey, when are we getting married? That was like 11. That was a jump.

Elena: That was the era of me like cutting my life, life into pieces sounds. Are you saying that, are we getting married?

Like, I was like wondering like, hey, I like, literally I was like 11, like I date to marry.

Des: Walking around, you know those guys that, I mean those girls that would be like, I date, I date Justin Bieber. You wanna see him?

Elena: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They would be talking about how they did, bro. There was, and we'd

Des: be looking at 'em, like

Elena: there was someone at my school who said like she was friends with Beyonce.

Mm-hmm. And she would like literally pull up like messages on Nerds, bro. And it said like, Beyonce and it was totally a scammer. I was like, girl, that ain't Beyonce. It [00:56:00] was like, this is Beyonce, but can you send me 50 bucks?

Des: This is Beyonce. Beyonce need $50 right now, girl,

Elena: I'll let you up on stage next time I see you.

Des: Like, girl. What? And it's like, they'll be like, there's so many people that fail for that shit, bro. Right.

Elena: They'll be like, can, can we video chat? So I know that you're Beyonce. And then it's like, oh, uh, I'm actually, uh, sucking Jay-Z off right now, so I can't fucking video call you right now. My bad, my bad.

And it's like. Can you stop? So I know that your Beyonce before I send you $50, so then they will call you and then when they call you, it's like a Yeah. Don't sound anything

Des: like the person No.

Elena: They call you and it's like an old video that they put over the screen, like the, it's like their phone over a laptop.

Oh.

Des: They went and the people didn't even do a good job with the people in my school there. Oh, okay. Yeah, it'd be like a grown man talking. I'm not victim of this

Elena: at all.

Des: Oh, oh, oh,

oh. I didn't do anything. I literally, I was just living my life. You

Elena: said 50 bucks, huh? No, [00:57:00] I didn't send, no, I didn't have no 50 bucks to send. I was like fucking 12. Oh, I'm sure. But I did, like, there was sometimes I,

Des: I

Elena: was like, this might be Beyonce. I had friends

Des: that would always do that, and I'd be like, girl.

Are you stupid?

Elena: Are you stupid?

Des: What are you talking

Elena: about? No. Eventually I realized when I did, when I did get I never sent the 50 bucks question, but when I did get the, no, when I got the, the video call, it was like I saw a computer screen and I was like, you're a fucking a liar. You're not fucking Beyonce.

It, it was Beyonce. It wasn't Beyonce. No, I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this. This is all air out. No, because actually low-key, this is like a thing that happened to a lot of people. It was Ronnie Radkey from Falling in Reverse. Okay, shut up. Shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up, shut up. This is a universal experience.

There was someone who actually, and she's like also kind of famous, like I don't know who she was married to. She was married to someone and she said that Ronnie Radkey was trying to get her to cheat on her husband, who was like Ronnie Rad Key's friend. 'cause it was like a band not as popular as falling in reverse.

A [00:58:00] little less popular, but still pretty up there and. He was like, he literally made a bunch of like videos 'cause she like posted Snapchat screenshots and it was a fake account pretending to be Ronnie Radkey and believed it. You were so devastated. I was, I'm talking about something else. But it was like a thing, like a lot of people get catfished with Ronnie Radkey.

It's crazy if, if

Des: you think you're talking to Justin Bieber, you're not.

Elena: Yeah. Yeah. Probably not. If you think you're talking to Ronnie Radkey, you're probably not. If you think you're talking to Beyonce, you're probably not. You're definitely not. You're definitely not talking to Beyonce. Should be

Des: talking to anyone.

Anyone but Jay-Z and her kid. Yeah.

Elena: Yeah. So Blue Ivy period. I said her name backwards. Yeah, I think it's Blue Ivy. I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, that was like a thing, like they had beef, like he beefed with this woman because he was like, that's not me. That was a catfish. And he went on TikTok and recorded like five.

Five minute long clips. Mm-hmm. Being like, that's not fucking me. I did not,

Des: it's funny, it's, I'm not talking to all you guys. Yeah.

Elena: He was like, I don't talk to anyone but [00:59:00] my bird. And he has like a parrot. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah. And like, I don't know. Anyway, Mer is the talks. I know. I'm like, okay. Period.

Honestly, goals, like you're just rich as fuck and you have a parrot that you talk to and nothing else. Nobody gets my

Des: attention

Elena: except for my parrot. That's kind of fire. That's kind of fire. I need to be that rich

Des: one day.

Elena: Yeah. That's fire. Okay, and then one last one. I've had full on arguments in my head with someone and then acted normal around them like nothing happened,

Des: bro.

I be having full on conversations. What are you talking about? Arguments. I play out scenarios that never happen. Like, like a parasocial relationship. Like you have a parasocial relationship, you're like, lemme go ahead and get this out right now.

Elena: And like, no. Do you do the thing where you like, pretend they're next to you and you're like.

Des: A car drove girl. Yes. In the car. Car drives me crazy. I'd be like, and that's right me when my music's off. That's why I think she's a sociopath because I know when my music's off someone's next to, to be in that car.

Like, [01:00:00] but they ain't. And why the fuck would you say that shit whole time is someone that I know. It really be someone I know. And then I gotta remember, I'm like, oh my God, I'm driving and I'm stopping at lights and people are looking at me right now. Like they're definitely staring at my shit right now.

I got a Camry bro. And that you can see right? They're looking at me windows like play out arguments and how I would act in different scenarios. Like I'm mentally unstable. Yeah, everyone does that. Look, this person does it. That's what I'm saying. It's three of us against the world. It's the three of us against the world.

We cool. As long as there's more than one of us, we good. No,

Elena: I seriously will sit there and I think I'll do it for like, I'll do it for an hour. Like my phone dead in the car. I'll do, oh, it's over. Is it a fucking competition? I an 11

Des: hour trip once the whole time I was making up scenarios. Oh

Elena: yeah. I'm not, no.

In my

Des: head I'm having the conversation. Yeah. I like remember it. Sometimes it, it comes out. That's the problem. Then next time I'll

Elena: see the person and I'll be like, do you remember that conversation we had? And they're like, no, I don't do that. No, I can't let them know about the conversation. Well, sometimes it blurs like, I don't know the difference.

Des: You be having a little bit more than me. Like, so, because [01:01:00] mine don't blur. No. Really?

Elena: Oh, okay. I hope this person's blurs. I'm not insane. I'll be like, wait, did I actually have that conversation with you? Or did I fake it? Did I pretend this conversation? But sometimes I don't know. That might be like, sometimes I'll tell Des something and maybe it's not like I didn't actually tell Des or, and on

Des: the next episode, mental health awareness.

Elena: Okay. Is it, wait, when is mental health awareness month was that August?

Sorry. I don't know. Hold on. Well, I don't know why. Did you not answer my question? Do you know?

Des: No, I don't know.

Elena: Should we do something for that? Oh, it, uh, it's May. That's my birth month anyway. Doesn't surprise me. Okay. Anyway. Um, and on that note,

Des: until next time

Elena: we digress.

Des: Why you had to do that, bro? Because it was

Elena: funny.

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