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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes Lockie Jones and Lleyton Wall, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Speaker 1
She goes in front would help the younger.
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Speaker 2
Of courage.
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Speaker 1
Unbelievable. There's nothing but. Racer man. World championship title.
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Speaker 2
Here we go. Welcome back to the unfunded podcast. This is episode 11 of season two. As always, I'm Lachlan Jones, your host, professional triathlete with my good friend Leighton Wall, professional triathlete as well. I always feel like I've got to add that in now. Like it's just I can't we can't go off. Yeah, I know it's our thing now.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. And we're back for another episode. Yep. In your ears again. It's lovely. We've got another race week coming up, which is exciting. We'll preview that probably at the end of the episode. Yep. As always. Yeah a big one first. No, no. First World Cup, first string of World Cups. Kind of as we're heading into the Europe Europe season.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. It starts to flow on now. I feel as if we've said that for the last ten episodes. Oh, it's flowing on again now. Racing's back. Yeah, it does seem to be a lot of racing. I mean, maybe because we're probably being a bit more active on keeping up with the races. Yeah, with it all like. And it's also been from the gun.
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Speaker 2
Very exciting races like we've had big. That's true. We've had big names in every single race. Yeah. Everyone's dying to race. Exactly right. And the getting back into it. It's what we want. Well, it's been a big week. It should have been race week for you. Yes, but unfortunately, some bad news and I'll let you get into it.
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Speaker 2
If you haven't seen Lucky's Instagram post. Yeah, I'll put a really sad post up for cinematic though. Yeah, we we tried. We did our best. Yeah. Unfortunately. Oh, what is it? Just over a week. Oh, it's actually a week. Today I found out I've got grade three stress reaction in my sacrum, so. Not good. Not good, not good.
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Speaker 2
We were. We were holding out hope. I think because it's it's weird. I've not had a stress fracture before. Oh, it's not a fracture. I've not had a bone stress injury before. So I didn't really I didn't know what they felt like. Like, I didn't know what what to think about it. Yeah. And I've always heard people sort of say like, oh, I felt something, but it wasn't that bad.
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Speaker 2
And I sort of ran through it for a couple of weeks where as soon as I felt it, two days later, I was in the MRI machine. So I was like, oh, this has got to be like a barely anything kind of. There's probably just some stress there and I'll have a couple of weeks off. That's it. Yeah, because we flagged it so early.
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Speaker 2
But no. Unfortunately. Yeah. Grade grade three stress reaction. And probably that's basically the the rest of the season gone. Yeah. So unfortunately it is if people don't know the grades of stress injuries. So you have one two where they're a bit of swelling. Grade three is like a bit more serious. It's on the outside of the bone.
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Speaker 2
Is that correct? That's on the wing, then. Grade four A, there's A4A, which is slightly worse. And then four B is a complete crack. Yeah. For A is a slight crack. I think the graph that I saw, I think I think four. It's starting to crack. Yeah. I think for a is like there is a bit of a crack there and they'd probably consider it a fracture.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Still before B is. Yeah. Complete crack. You've got a complete crack in your bone. Which I mean you got onto it very early. As soon as you felt any pain. It was already a three. Yeah. So which is wild to me like it is. I've again, like I said, this is my first one, so it's wild to sort of like I thought I did the right thing, and it's like it's something that clearly was in lingering in the background for because these are these things.
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Speaker 2
It's not like an impact fracture or an impact bone injury where, you know, you hit the ground really hard and bang, there's a there's a broken bone there. These are things that, kind of cumulate over time. Exactly right. It was sort of tough sitting in the physio office and sort of going, all right, like work back from there.
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Speaker 2
These things probably happened four weeks ago. What happened four weeks ago? And you put the pieces together and it's like, oh, shit. Like, yeah, I fucked up. I fucked up somewhere along the line. Yeah, yeah, that's unfortunate thing I remember. Well, last week we were swimming in the pool and you said you were off to go get a scan.
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Speaker 2
I was so nervous telling everyone to I hate it. It's almost like a weird like. And it's a bit of a stigma, isn't it? Yeah. Oh, fuck. It's not like it shouldn't. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be like a thing. But I'm swimming and like, people are asking what? You know, we're meant to be doing a VO2 set.
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Speaker 2
Why aren't you. Why are you going hard? It's like I've waiting for my scan results. Even telling people that I went and got a scan, it's like, fuck you. Just. You just. Yeah, I don't know. It was embarrassing. Like, you shouldn't be. You shouldn't be. But it was embarrassing. Yeah, I felt that last year as well. It's it's you.
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Speaker 2
Maybe it's an athlete perspective and maybe it's just the way that we think, but in our own minds, we maybe think, oh, it's a sign of weakness. Yeah, maybe we can't hold that load or our bodies can't quite hold what we're doing. Maybe that's where, I mean, our mental goes, oh, maybe we're a bit weak. Yeah. Even though it's just.
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Speaker 2
It's just a mistake that you've made probably four weeks previous. Yeah. Which is just a slight mistake. It's annoying that it takes like. Yeah, like one. It took one week of or maybe not one, 1 to 2 weeks of maybe like I did the wrong thing here. And that's then had a lasting impact of it's now going to take five weeks, five, sorry, five months to recover from that back.
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Speaker 2
Like, yeah. And like you said, it was meant to be race week for me. I was meant to be, actually. I was meant to be flying out to Chengdu today. So yeah, I'll be I'll be recapping. I'll be previewing it, but, yeah, won't be racing it, unfortunately. No, I think it's good to hear. No European summer.
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Speaker 2
First time I haven't had a European summer in four, five, four years. Five years. So yeah. First time not heading over to Europe this year. And this is what, your first major injury. Yeah, I've. I've had never broken a bone. I mean, you've crashed pretty bad. Yeah, I've had plenty of crashes. I did have a I did break a bone in my ankle.
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Speaker 2
It wasn't a stress related injury. I was, it was an off season and I was had a few beers and were wakeboarding, so, that was on me. Yeah, I'll take that one. That was on me. So I very much stay away from the white board now. Not as much as the beers, but stay away from the white boards.
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Speaker 2
But. Yeah. Other than that, no, I had a little bit of tenderness at the start of the year, but that was sort of three weeks and we had that sorted. So yeah, it's it's tough to. And as an athlete like far out I've never I've never understood until last week where you're just sitting with it. And I don't think people outside of sport would understand maybe as much like, no, you've got this big goal and you've got this clear path and you know exactly what you need to do to get to X, Y, z.
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Speaker 2
Say it's the Olympics world champ. Very much stepping stones along the way. You want to tick off. Yeah. And you've got your plan in place. Like I think now like we literally did have a plan in place. Like we was like, I'm going to do, I'm going to come home and then I'm going to go to Europe and I'm going to hopefully do this World Series, like there was World Series potentially on the line.
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Speaker 2
So it was like it was tough to have all these really exciting things, sort of like in place and then take all that back. You're actually going to sit at home for five months and then hopefully, maybe go race like a World Cup. Yeah, it's pretty tough to digest. Well, like when it is all you think about and all you want to do, like it's so, so, so fucked that that can just be taken away from you.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Like that I, I do think and we talked about this before last year when I was injured. It's finding something else. Yeah. I think you're, You have enough going on. Yeah. Keep your mind busy. I think although it's one aspect of your life that is probably majority of your life is triathlon. Yeah. You do. You're fortunate enough to have other aspects of your personality that it isn't just which is.
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Speaker 2
And I've always and like that what I've essentially tried to set up is in case something like this ever happened, like I've seen and I've always said it to people that have asked me like kind of why why I've, you know, this business avenue, this like why like just do triathlon. And it's like, no, I've seen I've just seen too many people have situations like this and then have to go and do something that they don't necessarily really want to do.
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Speaker 2
Like, I'm very fortunate that like all my work that I do and all the things I get paid for, it's in my own time. Like it's I'm essentially other than, you know, you're self-employed. Well, yeah. Like, other than you like, I've got to run stuff by you. I got to run stuff by Johan, who I coach with. Like, other than that, it's pretty relaxed.
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Speaker 2
It's pretty relaxed. So it's like, it's great. It's great that I've now get to. I'm trying to be positive with it and go, yes, this very big part of my life has been taken away and probably yeah, for sure. The thing that I want more than anything else. However, I still have these things in the background that can now, I can probably shine a bit more light on them and I can try grow the coaching business.
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Speaker 2
We can, you know, do some more stuff with the podcast, like a bit more direction with, I guess we want to go because, yeah, triathlon and training and racing and the mental fatigue of that takes up so much time. Like, like there's, there's literally times where I've had to go like, mate, I can't do a podcast or I can't get the socials up or the content because I'm just so, so tired.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. And like we cooked. Yeah. And we both always said like, we've missed episodes because triathlon comes first. Yeah. That's it. That is it. Like triathlon is so big. But, the little aspects I think are what keep you going in the long run. Yeah. And like, I do believe that triathlon. You need to go pretty much all in to be any good at it.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. But then also at the same time, you can't go 100% in. You have to keep a couple percent out for little things that you want to do that side. I mean, in cases like this I think we've seen unfortunate case. Yeah, we've seen quite a few athletes have something like this happen to them. And then they're almost just like they are.
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Speaker 2
They are lost. Yeah. Like like I gave myself a couple days of just feeling sorry for yourself. Molding in bed, like. Yeah, which you have to is part of it. But then it was like, alright, we'll go to the coffee shop, take my laptop and I'll just knock out a heap of work. And then that's essentially on the to do list for the next two months, until I can start running again and then incorporate more training.
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Speaker 2
And the more training I do, less work I'll do. But for the moment, I've still got all this other stuff that can keep my brain activated. And I'm not just going to be a sad sack in my room. What does the comeback look like? I know obviously we've gone through the same physio. Yeah. So I'm going to guess it's going to be the same thing.
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Speaker 2
It's a running related injury. Yes. Yes. Yeah. It's more more fueling. Like, is running the biggest impact that had on it. Yeah. Yeah yeah I think the biggest impact like in terms of, in terms of the individual legs, like yes, running would have more of a it was definitely more fueling and not, not allowing my body the energy and the cumulation of, yeah, yeah, it was training and fueling.
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Speaker 2
It was a bit of everything. Like when I said before how we went back and again, like you just touched on, we both have the same physio man. Bradbeer is just like a level of professionalism above. Yeah. Everyone else like I for context, I felt a bit a bit of pain in the warm down after a Saturday run.
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Speaker 2
So our Saturday runs are usually a pretty big run. It was about a 20 K run. We did three by three K efforts in the main set. I hit the sun. You were hooking? Yeah I was I was getting a bit Holy shit. I had some had some Chengdu mindset that weekend and yeah, I think we ran like an eight minute 50 last three K.
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Speaker 2
So like we're hooking like pretty quick. And I was like I just felt so good. Like it just felt it felt so smooth. Felt felt good. Running off some confidence off the third place in in weekend before the weekend before. And I started warming down and I was like, oh, just like my glute just felt a bit like stiff.
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Speaker 2
Like I thought I'd just had a bit of doms, maybe a bit of muscle soreness. Didn't think much of it. Struggled to like walk that night. Not not like not walk. But I was sort of limping a little bit. Next morning we did a ride. It was like 3.5 hours on the bike. Didn't feel it, so I thought was probably gone.
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Speaker 2
When to run Sunday Arvo we just do a 45 50 minute easy jog Sunday Arvo and I got three K down the road and it wasn't like sore, but I knew something was wrong. I was like, this isn't going away. My back muscles were starting to hurt a little bit because I was, you know, compensating for for the leg and yeah, got got page to come and pick me up, sat on the side of the road just like a sad sack.
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Speaker 2
Got her to come pick me up. Message Brad and Non. My coach and man Brad literally called me up, said, I'll get you an ace at 11:00 the next morning. Like. And Brad, if anybody knows Brad, his schedule is full for the next month. He's packed. He's one of the busiest blokes I've ever seen were his work or holic.
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Speaker 2
And it's honestly don't know how he does it. No, I don't know either. But 11 a.m. next morning I was at the physio with Brad. Did our test. He obviously had his concerns and he's like, let's just rule out bone injury. Next thing was to get an MRI scan. And I have a couple athletes that I'm. Oh, there was one athlete in particular that I coach in my age group squad.
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Speaker 2
It's taken him 2 to 3 weeks to get an MRI scan. Yes. Like they're so hard to get. Yeah. Brad Beer made one phone call and I'm there that night. Yeah. So, like, he has his connection. He's one of probably the best in the game, especially around that bone stress. Topic. Yeah. Which we want to get him on for.
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Speaker 2
Exactly. Yeah. We'll talk to him later so he'll obviously no more, but, yeah. In the MRI machine at 8:00 at night at Southport. Probably the most depressing medical clinic I've ever been to be in there. And then we had the results the next day and I was on I was actually on the win trainer doing a two hour bike ride because I didn't know at that time.
00;14;39;17 - 00;14;58;06
Speaker 2
And Brad was like, yeah, sure, just have a little spin. Got on think 2020 five minutes in. Saw the results. Grade three stress reaction. And I was like I'm getting off now. Yeah. Just got off the bike, sat down. I was like, fuck, I think I actually just played Fortnite for the next two hours because I was like, I just want to do nothing.
00;14;58;08 - 00;15;25;26
Speaker 2
Strange mind. Yeah, yeah. So that was that. And here we are now. Just, I'm basically, I'm basically just doing aerobic swimming for the next three weeks, so I'll have 3 to 4 weeks, basically. No riding, no running, obviously. Just aerobic swimming, no intensity. We're trying to we're trying to preserve as much energy cost as possible and just have that use for repairing the bone.
00;15;25;27 - 00;15;41;00
Speaker 2
So exactly, I think how Brad kind of explained it and I hopefully don't get this too wrong, but he basically said it takes three, 3 to 4 weeks to get rid of the dead bone in the in the muscle. Sorry. On the body, it takes about a week for the repairing agents to get ready model. Yeah to remodel.
00;15;41;00 - 00;15;57;02
Speaker 2
And then from that process on that's when the bone starts to. Yeah, start to regrow the bone or strengthen the bone in depending on what case. So I mean that sort of 3 to 4 week block where we're just trying to get rid of the get rid of the excess bone, start to repair the bone again. Make sure that it doesn't degrade any further.
00;15;57;04 - 00;16;14;12
Speaker 2
Like that's why you wouldn't try to run. We don't we don't want to risk of getting any worse. And because it was so close to a fracture, we don't want to risk it getting anywhere. So, yeah, it's just a patients game now. We'll probably have that'll take me to the first month, hopefully start writing again in about three weeks time.
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Speaker 2
It'll be about two months before I probably start running just to be super safe with it. And then obviously the rebuild from running. Everyone knows that's pretty long, so that'll be about a three month process there. So yeah, yeah, no, I won't be doing any of those sort of 30 to 35 hour training weeks that I love for a good five months.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. So which is it's a long unfortunately most of the season, as you said before. Yeah. It takes you out until when. I think it'll be about October. November. Yeah. Probably November time. So there's some like luckily there's a lot of racing at the moment. World Cups especially I think there's one in Hong Kong, one in Beijing. And I think New Zealand just put one up as well.
00;16;51;05 - 00;17;09;26
Speaker 2
So yeah, there is a lot of racing at the back end of the year, which is and Abu Dhabi hasn't been a blessing for you. The other date for Abu Dhabi hasn't been confirmed yet either. Yeah. So you're never on the back end of the year. That could be in the back end of the year. Hopefully if I I'm not I'm not on my I don't think the first race I could go do should be a World Series.
00;17;09;26 - 00;17;30;05
Speaker 2
But I mean, maybe if there's a World Cup into a World Series that'd be nice. But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's sort of the rough plan now. But it's good that you've, you've got a plan, as you said before, like the stepping stones to get somewhere in racing or your career. I guess that's what you take now is like the stepping stones back from injury to racing again.
00;17;30;06 - 00;17;53;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think that's at least there's a clear step forward. Yeah. And I think like the worst thing you can do and for anybody who has struggled with this like and we've just seen it so many times as rushing the process like 100%. Unfortunately you just can't rush these things. Like maybe if you're an elite athlete and there is a timeline for a major event, like a, like a, like an Olympics.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. As bad as this sounds, I would agree with that. Like like rush if this if this was probably to make an Olympics. Yeah. You play the devil's advocate. It's like like it's my one career goal. Yeah. It's all I ever want to do. Make an Olympics. Yeah. Maybe you get a cortisone shot and risk it. Yeah. It's not worth it.
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Speaker 2
You probably. You'd probably be in my case on the bike. Still, you probably wouldn't be taking the time off the bike. Yeah, a month off running. And then you'd probably reassess. If it's not that bad, slowly move up, try to get some sessions in. But, it's not worth it. It's not worth it for me, right? Longevity of a career.
00;18;35;04 - 00;19;03;20
Speaker 2
Exactly. Over. Takes a short term goal. Yeah, yeah. If this was, you know, end of 2027 maybe. But yeah, that's. Yeah. We're not in that position, so we don't have to think about it. Exactly. It's it's a strange one. And I think we'll get an expert on for this, and it's probably a bit over our heads. Yeah, but the sacrum seems to be one of the especially.
00;19;03;22 - 00;19;28;03
Speaker 2
And it sounds really bad. Our squad's been riddled with them at the moment, which is unfortunate. I don't think any of its correlated. No, I think a lot. Well, I mean a lot of them were early, early last year when the squad just developed. Yeah. Like so I think the ones that happened last year was and you think about who they were, they were 18 to 20 year olds like young young athletes.
00;19;28;05 - 00;19;48;29
Speaker 2
So I think yeah, that that doesn't really correlate with any of the stuff that was at a time where you got a heap of athletes coming into a new program, all right. Before a home world champs. Yeah, exactly. It was like all on the line kind of stuff. Yeah. You had a heap of athletes doing all of a sudden in a new program, probably like they tried to make it as similar as what they could to back home.
00;19;48;29 - 00;20;14;04
Speaker 2
But yeah, he'd be young guys just then. Also the stress of like moving out of home, especially as a young athlete, I think that adds up. Like life stresses and stress is a huge, huge factor, huge factor to it rather than just the training. We actually we said that before. I remember when I was sort of like that in that 16 to 18, it was all tibia in to be in.
00;20;14;08 - 00;20;42;23
Speaker 2
Yeah. TB and fibula stress fractures always like femoral shaft. Yeah. Like always seems like it's it's very strange that, the sacrum is such a hot area at this moment in time. They do say, like, close to the central nervous system. So, like your spine, your back, your femoral necks are, more nutrition related. And that's, that's. And like, energy expenditure and lower limb is more so low dependent.
00;20;42;25 - 00;21;05;07
Speaker 2
Low dependent. Yeah. But it makes me think. And I was having this discussion the other day with someone are the big change in running shoes. Because we also are talking to our coach Daniel Unger. And he's from the. When was he racing? Early 2000. Yeah. And if you look at the shoes back then they were flat like they had zero cushion like tough running shoes.
00;21;05;08 - 00;21;24;17
Speaker 2
Yeah. Which is light. And when we and when we were running, when we were like 16 kind of like it. Waffles. Yeah. Yeah it was waffles. But you would really feel the Doms after every single run. Yeah. And it makes me think are these big chunky shoes softening the load for our muscles, but then still the same impact on our bone.
00;21;24;18 - 00;22;05;02
Speaker 2
Yeah, because I'm not 100% sure. Like we need we need an expert on this. But that's just we were we even looking at, one of the shoes that I run in and how it was the I was trying to I can't remember. I've been trying out the A6, res and the edge, the metal speed ray edge and how they get around like the stack height rule even obviously, because they have a lot of, like, world athletics of regulations, heap of regulations and rules on stack height and all those, again, like things sort of above our head, but there's almost like a dip in the midsole because the Rea is such a four
00;22;05;02 - 00;22;24;20
Speaker 2
foot running shoe. Like, like when I did that three k rep, I was wearing the raise and it literally threw me on my forefoot and it made me just run like I thought my calves were going to blow. Like, if anything, I thought that was going to go real Towie. Yeah, real tight, real Towie shoe. And they're super, super unstable.
00;22;24;21 - 00;22;40;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. On the heel. Like honestly if you're trying to be in transition and you're standing on one foot and you've got your heel, you're wobbling around, but they have like a indent, almost like the foam comes into the sole in the mid. Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah. It's almost to get around the stack quite rule.
00;22;40;13 - 00;23;07;28
Speaker 2
So it's like yes you're getting around a certain rule but at what cost. That's coming at the biomechanics of running. Yeah it's it's an interesting topic. I mean yeah we probably don't. We're not biomechanics experts or shoe running experts, but it's a trend that we've seen. We know that obviously. And we've talked about the stress fractures before with just like the boom of running has caused more and more stress fractures just due to the number of people running.
00;23;07;28 - 00;23;30;03
Speaker 2
But is the technology changing the way we do run? Yes, we might be more efficient for quicker times, but is it doing some kind of harm to our gait? I don't know, I think there's probably a point to it. Exactly. Hopefully we'll speak to somebody who speaks. Someone will try and get someone who's more of an expert on the shoes and gait running.
00;23;30;03 - 00;23;47;04
Speaker 2
And I definitely won't be. The most annoying thing about this is that I was always like, I'd never had one before. So yeah, you were the man that was like I was. I'm hard. I'm untouchable. Like, I literally I would be that way. I would say like, oh, I don't get stresses. And everyone's like, touch wood, touch wood.
00;23;47;05 - 00;23;59;06
Speaker 2
I'm like, no, I don't need to. I was like, I don't get him. I literally don't get it. I thought that was me as well last year. I'll tell you what, I'm fucking laying down on a piece of wood next time I say that. If I say that I'm touching someone, you won't say it again though. I'm not touching so much wood.
00;23;59;07 - 00;24;25;03
Speaker 2
But I'll be. Yeah. Be cautious. Yeah. Oh, no. It's not gonna happen again. You're right. It's not gonna happen again. But I definitely don't have that, power over other people now by saying, I know, maybe that's why you thought, oh, am I, like, weak now? Yeah. Yeah. I was embarrassed because I've talked so getting stresses and now got one.
00;24;25;06 - 00;24;46;04
Speaker 2
You have a stigma to it, but, Exactly. Unfortunately I'm not. It shouldn't be the way of the sport, but I feel as if it's a what's the word like a a right into the sport. Yeah, right. Actually, I was actually when I like you have to have one. When we were swimming last Thursday, I had yellow in my lane.
00;24;46;04 - 00;25;04;14
Speaker 2
So yellow gains for anybody obviously set two time 70.3 world champion. He was asking me about it and he was like, oh, you know what? You're a real triathlete now. Like, oh, this is this is what I need to be a real like that sucks. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. At least I can call myself a real trial.
00;25;04;18 - 00;25;26;21
Speaker 2
Just riddled with injuries now. Like, yeah, if you look at the Brownlee's and all those dudes, I know, they they made it work. They risked it all. They did it. They risk it. Yep. Alrighty. Enough of the sad, sad topic of injuries. Let's get around to some World Cup racing World Cup. And Chang, do you back to China, your favorite place?
00;25;26;23 - 00;25;46;14
Speaker 2
I love that place, I love Asia, I'm not an Asian fan, but it's so good. I never thought that I was like like Asia. I love it, it's just, you know, it. It's just a bit feral sometimes. That's why I'm not a huge fan of I love Hong Kong, I love Hong Kong. Well, Japan's very nice, like, oh, shit.
00;25;46;15 - 00;26;05;11
Speaker 2
But China, I kind of get around because it's feral. It's just a bit like it almost is. Like you feel like you can do whatever you want there, because they're also going to do whatever they want. Like people just don't give a fuck. There's like, no, they're very respectful. Yes. But then what we would think is like, respect, they don't like classes.
00;26;05;11 - 00;26;26;24
Speaker 2
Respect like the fact that they're like, who can you know, Pflug is outside the pool is disgusting. Honestly, I'm honestly, I remember such an eye opener when I was there last year. I thought a lady spat at me. Yeah, she just like she just flung a loogie and it went so close to my feet. And I was like, she's not looking at me, but I'm like, you just deliberate.
00;26;26;25 - 00;26;49;00
Speaker 2
You just spat at me. And then I saw somebody else basically, like, nearly hit her. And I was like, oh no, no, this is a spit at her feet. It's just so far into us. Oh, it's so weird. You wouldn't see people doing that. No. Imagine that. So I'm just like, oh, I discussed, but we're in Chengdu this weekend, so all the athletes racing can enjoy that for themselves.
00;26;49;02 - 00;27;11;09
Speaker 2
Yeah. But it's another they they do do it right. And we've said this before China as much of sometimes it is a punish to go racer. Like it's kind of harsh to go race in China. How do you comfort zone for a Westerner. It's not the nicest. Like the climb. It's always just a bit shit, like it's smoggy or it's raining or it's really hot.
00;27;11;10 - 00;27;27;06
Speaker 2
Like you don't know what you're expecting. You can have one day where it's perfect weather, and then the next day they're saying pissing down or even wear your face mask because the air quality is not great. Yeah, yeah. And then you're eating fried rice for about a week straight. The food I struggle with. Yeah. The food. The last time.
00;27;27;06 - 00;27;48;29
Speaker 2
Well, last time I was there, I had a really good sweet and sour pork, actually. Yeah, but then I'm also really sus on the meat. Exactly. We went when I raised Chengdu last year. It was me, Tara saws and Mercer shards. Yeah, the dangerous fall. And we went to. We went to a it was almost like a they cook it on the side of the street.
00;27;48;29 - 00;28;07;20
Speaker 2
For them it was I was nervous when we got there. I've got this video of Merce eating like chicken feet was like eating the skin. It was rough. Like that was gross. But honestly, one of the best meals I've had. Seriously? It was really good. Like honey soy chicken. Yeah. Had like, you had somewhat really, really yummy stuff.
00;28;07;20 - 00;28;24;28
Speaker 2
I was a bit sus. We obviously we. Yeah, it was post-race obviously. And we obviously went for the most Western food we could see like out of the whole thing. You could go up and it basically had all these different skewers. So it was like honestly it was a wall full of skewers of season for sausages, all this stuff.
00;28;24;29 - 00;28;41;05
Speaker 2
And we obviously went for like what looked the most in our normal. Yeah. And, but honestly, one of the best meals I've had. Yeah, it was I was loving it. It was really good. But then there was you had like your grannies and grandpas on the side, just ripping farts and just Hawke and Louise at. Yeah, well, yeah.
00;28;41;07 - 00;29;07;06
Speaker 2
On the side of the street, eating on the footpath. It was. It's strange. It is a strange but cool place. You have to go there once I think. Yeah, yeah. And and to the racing now the racecourse is. I'm pretty sure it's an artificially designed triathlon racecourse. A lot of their courses are very well done. Like they have designed this for triathlon, racing, cycling, racing and they bus out spectators.
00;29;07;07 - 00;29;23;16
Speaker 2
Yeah. I don't know if you get social Credit points for being out there or if you get honestly, when I raced this last year and I finished, I think I had a pretty good day for one of my first. Like, I was still pretty new to World Cup racing, but I think I got 16th. Yeah, I was about 16, 17, 17 around there and I had a pretty good run.
00;29;23;16 - 00;29;50;14
Speaker 2
It was a run race, so for me I was like far out. Yeah. But then I still ran like I think a 31 minute 10-K like for me, pretty good. And I felt like 2014 Justin Bieber because they just like swarm you. They were swarming like to the point I was with James Corbett. Me and him were literally taking photos, signing autographs, people trying to get me to try their oranges from the farm that they bought, like it was wild.
00;29;50;14 - 00;30;05;28
Speaker 2
And I was like, okay, it makes you feel cool. And it wasn't ending. There was more and more and more and more and I was like, okay, it's literally not stopping. I did it for about ten minutes and I was like, okay, good. Alright guys, I've actually got guys not fun anymore. Like it was really fun. For the first ten minutes I got 17th 16.
00;30;05;29 - 00;30;29;11
Speaker 2
I didn't win the race. If I won, the race would have stayed around a bit longer. But yeah, they they bused spectators out. Great course. But they get around it once they're there and then they get around it. They do get around a bit of a festival. So Yeah. Well again, credit to China. Yeah. Make the most for all the athletes there because you don't always get you don't always get atmospheres like that.
00;30;29;12 - 00;30;51;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, exactly. They bring the atmosphere which is really cool in China. But their courses under the course it is almost I would say it's almost a little bit similar to a Samarkand kind of race. Like it's a you're riding around the swim. So it's a it's a normal regatta. Yeah. It looks like it looks like a regatta.
00;30;51;22 - 00;31;10;04
Speaker 2
Pontoon start. It's a sprint distance racist weekend. So 750 meter swim, 20 K ride, five K run. And we have a mixed team relay the next day. Yes, that's a big one. First this year. First mixed team relay this year. Obviously Abu Dhabi was meant to be one but that is postponed. First one World Cup really exciting.
00;31;10;04 - 00;31;33;23
Speaker 2
So not I'm going to say not as the fields aren't as stacked as what we saw previously as what we saw in Lanzarote, in Haikou. Yeah, we don't have as many Europeans coming over, I don't think don't get me wrong, still some really good, still very good. But we don't have like a, a whole week there and a cantero those kind of go George Taylor Browns.
00;31;33;24 - 00;31;53;29
Speaker 2
No. Like I mean we've obviously got some we'll get we'll get to the big hitters in a second. But yeah nobody that I'm like wow. Like you are just a clear, clear favorite. Yeah. Or even a World Series contender. Yeah. Or maybe. Maybe. Luke. Luke. That's the only one. He's probably the one that sticks out. Yeah, he's the only one that made me both men and women.
00;31;54;01 - 00;32;14;22
Speaker 2
Yeah. But. Yeah. So sorry. Back to the course. Swimming the regatta. The bike ride is fast. It's super fast. Like I said, it's a bit of a zigzag up and down loop. Last year it all came together. It was an Olympic distance last year though. Yeah. And I was in the chase back. So obviously it's going to come together if I'm hunt you down.
00;32;14;25 - 00;32;32;18
Speaker 2
Sorry. Fuck. It didn't take long. I did not take it. Okay. I will not do that again. I remember you vividly sitting on the back just trying to hold on. That is not true. That is. I was watching it on trial for life. Didn't see you at the front, mate. No, not at the front of the front pack.
00;32;32;18 - 00;32;49;03
Speaker 2
Because I wasn't there. I was at the front of the chase back. I had a matthews, the Canadian fuel. Yeah. He came out to me and said, hey, good riding. Thanks, mate. Because I told him up to the front back and then I don't know why he got top five, okay. He did better than me. But, yeah, a bit of a hilly course.
00;32;49;03 - 00;33;11;27
Speaker 2
It's definitely not a course that you can kind of just, like, I guess, sit in too much. Yeah, I remember I'm pretty sure it was an Olympic distance maybe two years ago. Three years ago, when we saw the breakaway of Max safely. Taylor Reed. That's all I can remember, I was there. Yeah. I also remember in that race, Taylor Reid throwing his guts up with about 1500 to go.
00;33;11;29 - 00;33;26;11
Speaker 2
He's running and just pulls over to the side and throws his guts up. Still finishes on the podium. He loves to do that. He loves it doesn't he. Just hard yakka. Yeah. But yeah. So it's going to be a fast it's going to be a fast bike. And I think it could stay away. It is a looping course.
00;33;26;11 - 00;33;44;28
Speaker 2
So I think you only come back on yourself one time. It kind of loops out. You do a little bit of a come back on yourself for maybe a kilometer and then finish off the rest of the loop. So we saw a two man breakaway last year in our race and they got bit up the road. It's going to be different, different dynamics.
00;33;44;28 - 00;34;03;16
Speaker 2
It's faster obviously that 20 K for 40 K, you start to settle into a bike rider where 20 K can just stay on the pedals, stay on the pedal. You're humming like you really are harming, so you're probably riding it, you know, anywhere between 25 and 30 minutes and then correct me if I'm wrong. The run is like a slight incline up to the U-turn.
00;34;03;17 - 00;34;25;01
Speaker 2
Honestly, I think it's flat. Is it flat? I think it's pretty flat, like they said that to us last year, but when I was running it in the race, I didn't really feel feel it. I didn't feel either side. False flat. False flat. Yeah, it's pretty cool because I'm not sure if it actually is rice fields, but like, you kind of got like you got the narrow road and it's barely enough for two cars to really be going through.
00;34;25;01 - 00;34;41;17
Speaker 2
Yeah. But you're going back and forth either way, and you've just, you're running through like, there's families in, like, not they're not slums, but they're like Tin Tin houses. Yeah. They're little shacks, aren't they? They don't know what triathlon is. Yeah. They don't know what we're doing. They're just seeing a heap of guys wearing different colored locking suits.
00;34;41;18 - 00;35;02;18
Speaker 2
Like, that's all they're saying. So. But it's a it's a fast run course. It's a fast run course. So I think we're definitely going to see personally I think we're going to see some breakaways I think so as well. I think especially the men. Yeah I think the women might stay together. Yeah I that's the one I was thinking I think the women will stay together.
00;35;02;21 - 00;35;26;23
Speaker 2
But the men, I think that there's a good quality caliber front pack of about 5 to 10 haven't really counted fully, but there's going to be tailored. Luke, William Rider, Mercer. Who else is there? Max Stapleton, The Frenchies I think they're going to be the first two out of the water, eager deploys and sacks and Morgans there.
00;35;26;24 - 00;35;43;18
Speaker 2
Yeah. And Tom Lino, they're the two French's that I would not be surprised if they're 1 or 2 out of the water. Great swimmers. Tom Luno had a really good string of World Cups in the back end of last year. I think he got like a top five or maybe top ten in like a heap of World Cups.
00;35;43;18 - 00;36;04;11
Speaker 2
So he's knocking on the door of a of a podium, I think. And then again, we spoke about Jack Willis. You've got a lot of the Italians as well. Nicola. Zana I know that Miguel Spooner is really good. Like, man, we've still got a really, really class field. So. But I think you're right. I think we're going to see I think we're going to see Luke Wilson.
00;36;04;13 - 00;36;26;28
Speaker 2
I think we're gonna see Braden Mercer, Tyler Miller, Chuck as well. You're going to see your ego deploys, Tom Luno, Max staple, Taylor Reed. They're going to be really pushing that swim. And then I think there'll be a few kind of fringing between the parks. And I think there'll be a big second pack. I'm really nervous because I was so, so vocal in Simon.
00;36;27;01 - 00;36;39;25
Speaker 2
It was going to break away, so I told none. I did say this to nine and I was like, look, I'm going to be a little bit cautious. However, now that I've just looked at the start list again, I take it all back and there's going to be a breakaway. Yeah, I think there's a few. Less is what we would say.
00;36;39;26 - 00;37;01;21
Speaker 2
Gap feels like have those real big, very good caliber swimmers like, you know, this one is Hojo. Great swimmer. Yeah. But I think there's I think the string of between front pack, second pack, the ones that kind of do and don't make it sometimes. Yeah. Your fringe front packs. I don't think there's as many this week. And I don't think they'll have the gas on the bike.
00;37;01;23 - 00;37;22;16
Speaker 2
I think that bikes pretty strong. Like. Exactly. That's why I believe up front that's a working group. TaylorI Luke willing, he pumped it in Davenport, didn't he? Yeah, he hurt some boys. Yeah, he really hurt some boys in that on that bike you got Tyler? Tom learners a great cyclist, too. If Saxon gets up there. Yep. Yeah, that'd be good.
00;37;22;17 - 00;37;41;18
Speaker 2
I mean, I'm not one to really learn from my mistakes, so, I definitely got told. And again, when you're going to have someone like Callum McCluskey, you're going to have someone like a max Studer. You got Antonio Serrat in there. You don't want those boys there like you don't even Nathan Grail like Reece Venison. He won it last.
00;37;41;21 - 00;37;58;20
Speaker 2
No, you don't want those boys there. And you know they're going to be on the back burner. So you want them as far back as possible? Yeah. So that's our men's preview. Who is your picks for the men picks? I know I put it on the post last night, but your picks for the men, I need to relook at what I said.
00;37;58;21 - 00;38;18;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, they are, if you want to look at that. I said, Luke Wilson, we we we have. I was a little bit nervous when I put this together because we've glazed the Aussies. Chaos. Yeah we have, we've kept in own territory. I feel as if those boys are just going to swim very hard, and we know that they ride extremely hard and want to get away.
00;38;18;21 - 00;38;39;29
Speaker 2
I mean, I think that's the thing. They know like that they would have the plan of we want to get away from Reece Venison. We do want to get away from Callum McCluskey. We do want to get away from who else is Studer. Exactly right. So there's a few hot guys in that run field. Yeah, that could run like, you know near enough that 14 double.
00;38;40;00 - 00;38;57;01
Speaker 2
Oh again. Yeah. So and I don't want to get away. Willian especially Willian knows he's probably out of the really top end runners. He's probably the better one that he's probably the one that can swim and bike in the front park. So and that's why I thought it'd be funny. He slept on Tyler tiles. A really good swimmer too.
00;38;57;01 - 00;39;18;18
Speaker 2
So I think Willian and Tyler for me are the two key guys that are great runners that can also swim front park and ride front pack. Yeah, I probably did skip over Tyler and probably I also think you sleeping on Mercer a little bit. Yeah, I just put I couldn't have so many Aussies. Yeah, I know I did feel a bit of a fraud going and like I'm friends with all three of them.
00;39;18;21 - 00;39;39;01
Speaker 2
So it's like it's like, oh, it's not just keep picking you mates and Mercy's very good over that sprint distance. I'm honestly, I think I really think Merce is almost becoming like a sprint specialist. Like he. I used to think Mercedes go down the the longer, the longer distance. I thought it'd be an Olympic distance, but very dialed in in that five k run.
00;39;39;03 - 00;39;53;19
Speaker 2
Man, he's shown his colors in that five K. I'll give him his flowers like he's showing his colors in that five K, and we know he's going to be in the front pack of the swim. Exactly. Yeah. My only question mark and I think he's I think he's had like a block now. But my question mark was obviously over his writing ability.
00;39;53;19 - 00;40;16;05
Speaker 2
And we saw it in Devonport like he struggled a little bit. But he might have just needed another 4 to 5 weeks of training like coming off the off season. I know that's what I needed. Like just like that race intensity. Yeah, yeah. The difference, the difference that I felt between Devonport and Runaway Bay, like I felt so, so much fitter going into racing purely just because I had 4 to 5 weeks of sometimes all you need is one more training block.
00;40;16;06 - 00;40;29;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. So I think he's got his one more training block and word on the street as he's flying. So ready to go. I don't think he's going to out. I think he'll be top five. Yeah I don't think he's going to outrun a Willian or a Tyler miss Chuck. No. But I think he'll be in that front pack.
00;40;29;08 - 00;40;52;27
Speaker 2
And I think he's then the next best guy. So I've got Luke Willian then I have Max Staveley. Yep I think he's actually due for a good one. He won 10 to 2024. There's an Olympic. And then I've got Taylor because I think he'll be there in the like in the break. Sorry. And if you also look at Max staples sixth place in Lanzarote, that was a very very quick.
00;40;53;00 - 00;41;10;05
Speaker 2
It was a run race. So like Max staples is showing that his weaknesses aren't weak anymore. No like so I think Max is going to I he he was the one that I kind of tossed and turned with between himself and Brayden because front packs with a strong bike rider, he's good enough even in the World Series.
00;41;10;05 - 00;41;34;18
Speaker 2
And to get sixth place in the lands of Roddy. Yeah. Running race pretty good. So that's very good. It's going to be good. And the only the only asterisk is he'd been effed. Yeah. Weekend. Yeah. You don't know 1435 Outlands already. Wow. So he's rapid. I think those front boys were all run around 1430. I think they're all 14.
00;41;34;19 - 00;41;52;01
Speaker 2
Depends on how they run. Depends how hard they are. They right? Yeah. What do you think they need? I think they need 30s. I reckon I was about to say they can do it. I think that's the magic number. 30s. I think Kalmar will run somewhere near like that. 1410 Jack Willis. Well that's quick man. What do you run the other day?
00;41;52;02 - 00;42;17;02
Speaker 2
You run pretty quick. I count 14, 13. So 14, ten guy. Okay, maybe. And then you've got Jack Willis. He's Rhys Venison. He's my dark horse. I want to see how he goes this weekend. Off high. Come off the back of a pretty nasty crash from reports he probably shouldn't be racing. No reports. I've heard from him in the American camp.
00;42;17;03 - 00;42;34;13
Speaker 2
He's. He shouldn't be racing. He still still just. I'm pretty sure he still got like he had surgery on it. And I'm not sure if it was bolts or something in his shoulder that he had to have, but I'm pretty sure, like it's all fully healed. And I wonder how much training you've really been able to do in that time between haiku and now.
00;42;34;15 - 00;42;56;22
Speaker 2
Yeah, but yeah, question marks. And if they just want to get him racing then sure. Get him racing. But I'm not expecting too much from him. Yeah okay. I'm not expecting from him Brandon Copeland podium there last year. Yeah. You can't sleep on him. Yeah. So he ran really quick last year. 3011 last year. Yeah, man. Trust me, when they dropped me in that last record, they dropped me.
00;42;56;25 - 00;43;17;28
Speaker 2
I was with him for 6 or 6 and a half game. So it's a big field. It is honestly the first time. The first time when I had to adjust the slide for the when I was making the start list last night because I couldn't fit all the names in. Yeah, lucky we're not doing like we were not doing Connie Cups because they take up like 7566.
00;43;18;00 - 00;43;37;03
Speaker 2
Let's start list. Yeah. Wow. Mike's five. Sorry I went Luke Wilson for the dub. I just think I don't even think he needs 30s. I think you give him 15 seconds. I think that'll be enough for him. Yep. Tyler spoke about how good he was from Park Sumar. Good on the bike and anything like last time I raised him in Morocco.
00;43;37;05 - 00;43;53;20
Speaker 2
World Cup should be a walk in the park for him in terms of getting on the podium. Braden Mercer I just think with current form and I think I think we're going to see the Napier version of Greater Mercer come out here. Oh, and I go, I also remember when we didn't pick him in. Yeah. He wasn't happy was he.
00;43;53;21 - 00;44;09;11
Speaker 2
Well maybe that's my ref up to him. Yeah. He came on the podcast and he said fuck you boys. You didn't pick me. So I had to go get well. Go get it, Tiger. Yeah, exactly. Give me your give me your women. Women recap I don't actually how do you think it's going to go? The women I think will come together.
00;44;09;11 - 00;44;35;28
Speaker 2
I think it will as well. Yeah. I think you're going to have like a people like Aspen. Aspen Anderson riding really well, riding really, really well and Ellie hoisting probably back there as well. So. So, yeah, I have a Laura Lindemann is in there. Kate Waff is in there. I think there could be a couple, a few off the front, like 2 or 3, but I don't think it's going to really break.
00;44;36;02 - 00;44;57;18
Speaker 2
I think Kate will be at the front. Tyrosine ski. We also have actually who was it? The one last year. Where is she? She was the alien athlete. Yeah. I can never remember her name. I picked her for the win. She'd be ranked at the top. Yeah. Oh, unless she's poor. Oh, no. Valentina. Reservoir. Yeah, I can never.
00;44;57;23 - 00;45;21;02
Speaker 2
I can never remember her name, but, Yeah. Look, we've we've got a strong contingent there, sha as well. I just don't think it's really going to break crazy. If there was, like, a Georgia Taylor Brown and a few others, I think it would break and there would be like 4 or 5 K off. Being there really is the one that marks me up because I would say she's my dark horse if K12 wasn't there.
00;45;21;02 - 00;45;38;26
Speaker 2
I'm saying it's going to all come together because Kate was there and she's got the strength on that bike from the front. She literally could do a George Taylor Branagh off the front, I don't know, I could see is Taurus in ski and fire out? Can't forget Tara Georgia Taylor Brown off the front. Tara is going to get slept on here.
00;45;38;27 - 00;45;55;11
Speaker 2
People are going to know what? How good. Tara is rising. Yeah. Like what tire did in Devonport. Yeah. It was incredible. Just right off the front and then ran away. Yeah. Like she played with them there. Like there was incredible. Yeah. You know what I'm going to play safe bet I'm going to say it's all going to come together.
00;45;55;12 - 00;46;15;27
Speaker 2
That's where I think as well. Safe bet. I just think that one of the swim. We need a few more in there to really break it. I think so, yeah, I think so. Who's your picks? My picks Valentina Ross over. Yeah. She won last year. She's gonna win it again. Then I'm going Sophie. Malachy. Okay. She's in some serious run for some great form right now.
00;46;15;27 - 00;46;40;10
Speaker 2
Some serious, serious run form. I think she's probably I'm going to call it here our next person I think. So our next like Australia's next woman up. I think she's our next hope I think the World Series. I think we should put a few eggs in her basket. Yeah. Right. Now give a couple more Easter eggs. Yeah. And then I have Sean Rangeley.
00;46;40;12 - 00;47;01;09
Speaker 2
Yep, I like that. So that's a I think that's a pretty safe women's bet. Yeah. What are yours? I've got Laura Lindemann, I think. I think she's for one. I think she's due for one. I did say Laura Lindemann also in there. Yeah, I'm going to go Laura Lindemann, and I'm going to go off. Yeah. I didn't know how Kate would go.
00;47;01;11 - 00;47;20;08
Speaker 2
She's my dark horse. I'm nervous, but I just think it's Kate. Waw. Like, yeah, man. Like she can't. Was she a little bit had a little a little niggle. That is why in Australia nervous I'm nervous. But I think if it was a World Series I wouldn't be putting her in. I wouldn't, I think she'd be like top ten in the World Series.
00;47;20;09 - 00;47;44;03
Speaker 2
Yeah I think World Cups play out slightly different. They do. But I think when you're that caliber of athlete, I think you've got that edge. Yeah. Even to have a bit of confidence. Yeah. So I okay. And then I've got Aspen Anderson. That's big. She is training the house. Actually think this is her first World Cup. I think she raised her friend in April before maybe.
00;47;44;09 - 00;48;01;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, she actually might have. This is one of her first World Cups. One of. Yeah. Yeah. Still very new to it. Yeah. And I'm going out on a limb here, but running the squirrel. Yeah, I'm back in the squad riding. I think it swings come a long way as well. Yeah. So if this does come down to it, like, I don't think people realize how strong she is on the bike.
00;48;01;25 - 00;48;18;01
Speaker 2
Yeah. Like she honestly does it. We for those that don't know, we did. Actually, I don't know why I said that. A lot of you wouldn't know. We did a bike session where we just finished the bike set and our two coaches at the correct track. Yeah, yeah, literally said so. They said, oh, I ended the bike session.
00;48;18;01 - 00;48;36;26
Speaker 2
We'll go to treat for you. We're going to do a five lap race and we're like, all right. Five lap race crit style winner takes all. I think if the front first lap you did, you did very stupid. Leighton goes on to front after the session, so I was like, yeah, I'll have a crack right now. And then di a lot of the boys gave it a crack.
00;48;36;28 - 00;48;56;11
Speaker 2
I think we get to the third lap, so we're coming around to the third lap. Somebody just made a big attack and we just closed the big attack on the third lap. Yeah. Somebody attacks from behind as we're all dead. Aspen Anderson. Yeah, she's hung on to all of our attacks, and then she's just gapped us. And then once I looked at God, well, fuck yeah, no one, no one, like, went at first.
00;48;56;13 - 00;49;12;10
Speaker 2
Like no one went with her because we were like, oh, we'll catch it. Like, it's all good. We'll catch her. I think one of the other boys went, caught her and were like, no, no, we'll catch him on the last lap. Couldn't catch him. No. Aspen, literally. Aspen beat all the boys like all of our whole squad. We all just got done by us.
00;49;12;11 - 00;49;32;00
Speaker 2
But like a good, good margin as well. And we're all finishing. We're like, that was incredible. That was honestly incredible. So I think I think Aspen's going to shock some people in this race. And even though running ability, everyone knows how good Aspen is on the run. So get us some fresh legs and it could be. It could be Aspen's time to shine.
00;49;32;03 - 00;49;49;20
Speaker 2
Very good. That's that's a good pick. Yeah. I'm nervous about the girls. Once I've done a bit of a you and I've gone. Yeah, yeah. You've gone out on a limb. There's some question. There's some question marks over him. But I'll. I'm happy with it regardless. It's good. Good stuff. All righty. Well, that is it for the episode.
00;49;49;23 - 00;50;05;01
Speaker 2
A lot. I know we thought it's something I might enjoy, but a lot of talking about me and my injury, and I didn't, actually. That was actually that much. Yeah, it's not as nice as, like, talking about yourself racing. I kind of like to talk to yourself up. Yeah, I kind of like joking things when it's like joking.
00;50;05;01 - 00;50;25;29
Speaker 2
It's funny. Yeah, yeah. Actually being serious, I'm like, oh, this is serious. I don't like this. So. Yeah. But yeah, not super excited. We'll be watching the Chengdu race this weekend. Oh, go around to your house. Yeah. If the time is right. Yeah, surely. I think it will be. Yeah, yeah. Watch party at mine for anyone. Anybody that's in the area.
00;50;25;29 - 00;50;31;29
Speaker 2
Watch party at mine. Anyone we are at.
00;50;32;01 - 00;50;54;05
Speaker 2
I said Bermuda wrong street. Yeah, yeah. She did say the wrong street, thank God. Yeah, we'll be watching. So good luck to all the athletes racing. Can't wait to watch. Hopefully our picks get up. And we will see you next week for a recap and preview of Yokohama. Yep. Big one first. No. Is it first, second second second World series of the year.
00;50;54;06 - 00;50;56;13
Speaker 2
Oh, guys, thank you very much for listening. Bye.