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Mhmm. So it's Ryan and Ho no. Ryan and Allison with me today to discuss this show to discuss in. Maybe we'll talk about the trending topics in the world of sports news entertainment and culture. And just a programming note, the show will be off all of next week.
There'll still be our special reels on TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook, and YouTube. So but we're just no new no shows next week. Just taking the week off and enjoying the summer and enjoying the fourth of July holiday. Be sure you all enjoy that as well. And we'll be back here on July 8, Tuesday, July 8, with a brand new tweet cap to recap the July 4 weekend.
So we're gonna rest up and relax, and I hope you all out you all are you all out there do the exact same thing. And, again, we'll be back at it on July 8. But for now, let's talk about what was trending in our world today. Ryan and Alice, it's great to see you too. How's it going?
Happy to be back as always. Amen to that. Amen. Alright. You know, one thing that, was a bit difficult, though What?
One thing you know, let me actually, let me phrase it this way. You know what? One thing I've learned What did you learn? In this world, sometimes you really can't trust people for what they're gonna say. You could say one thing, and then the complete opposite happens.
You can sign a contract. You could agree to terms and conditions. Yet, it could be minutes, hours, days. In a short amount of time, those people will do exactly what they said they wanna do. And it just stinks.
It's aggravating when it's world leaders doing that. So Ryan and myself reported and discussed the ceasefire agreed to by Israel and Iran, obviously, amongst their twelve day war. I'll give credit to Ryan just to be cautiously optimistic. He did, say that. And, what, six hours later, early on Tuesday afternoon sorry.
Tuesday morning, it was reported that both of those nations, wound up coming at each other, and they did not agree to the ceasefire specifically here. The ceasefire announced late on 06/23/2025 intended to halt a twelve day conflict involving missiles and air strikes with Iran and Israel. However, within hours, both countries reportedly breached the agreement with Israel launching strikes on Tehran and Iran allegedly firing missiles through e though do not though Iran denying this, and Iran is the capital of Iran? Yeah. Tehran is the capital of Iran.
Yes. And, on his way to the NATO summit, president Trump was questioned about this ceasefire breaking. And this is exactly what he said, a meme that we will have forever. Thank you, C SPAN, for this. Israel said that Iran violated the cease agreement and the ceasefire agreement.
Do you believe that Iran is still committed to the cease? Yeah. I do. They violated it, but Israel violated it too. Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before.
The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when when I say, okay, now you have twelve hours, you don't go out in the first hour, just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with Iran either.
But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because the one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that. You know what? We have we basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that?
You you went in regarding the They don't know what the fuck they're doing. So He was not a happy camper. After his remarks on Tuesday, the twenty fourth, regarding the Iran and Israel ceasefire violations, the situation has evolved with the ceasefire appearing to hold despite initial fragility. As of this recording, 06/26/2025, the ceasefire brokered by Trump as largely held after both sides accuse each other of violation shortly after its announcement. That's what we have at this moment.
And at this time, there are more, diplomatic there's more meetings of diplomacy between the nations and then with NATO meeting and stuff. But and that's what I have for now. Again, we're just gonna wait. Who knows by the time this is, up at around midnight, they could go at each other. But at this time, it seems to been all smoke and mirrors for the most part.
And, no, there has been, evidence of the breach. Oh, yeah. They definitely did breach, but they're not. But at least for now at least for now in these last two days, there hasn't been anything. But my main thing is just to show that that meme.
I'm sure you've seen it all over the place. I've heard it on radio shows, on podcasts and this. But, what are you gonna do? Right? This is this was Ryan pointed out at, during our exclusive episode regarding the ceasefire and, you know, a whole lot of hullabaloo.
But whether you're a world leader or a friend or an acquaintance or a coworker or a family member or just a stranger on the street, be sure to trust but verify and, when you make a deal with somebody because, you know, a lot of I change my mind. Yeah. Especially when diplomacy, especially with geopolitics. No. I I mean, I'll be honest.
When I heard that, I was like, wow. He's actually upset. A lot of people I think no. Seriously. I think a lot of people thought he really didn't care.
It was just kind of like, I'm gonna make a big boom, and I'm gonna say no more fighting now, and I'm gonna you know, because he wants that Nobel Peace Prize. But, no. He seemed like he was genuinely quite upset that he he thought they agreed to something, and then both of them allegedly immediately went behind his back. Yeah. There was some I've I don't know.
And I don't remember enough. I didn't prep didn't prep enough to talk about it in any detail. He was saying something. Sounds like him and Israel are boys again. He wants them to drop their Yeah.
What's it called? That. That was reported by Reuters. Drop. Yeah.
Wants to want he's telling Israel to drop any, like, criminal action against the current prime minister who I guess is being investigated for something. So it seems like whatever was going on, they ironed that out, and they're all back on the same side. But, yeah, it stinks that right after we did our episode is when they decided to break the ceasefire they had just agreed to because it made our episode kinda, you know, moot. You know what I mean? Exactly.
But I I It's nice to show because I had a lot of people both on the social accounts. They didn't text me privately about how they didn't do it, and I said, shut up. It was not even, like, like, again, if we and But I'm glad to see the listening the listening the listening and views are there, but it definitely looks silly right after we made it. But listen to the but listen to the whole thing because as you pointed out, we talked. I was and I said it.
I was like, I hope I'm wrong, but I'm gonna keep it with cautious, you know, cautious optimism because I want peace. Obviously, you can't have peace if nobody's agreeing to a deal. They both agreed to a deal. That's the first step to peace. There was a hiccup at the beginning, but it seems now they're back on to, hopefully, a more peaceful resolution.
And, yeah, don't don't cheer for war, people. If if you just because the person in charge you're like, don't cheer for war. It's you never cheer for bombs. Never cheer for war. No one ever wins when bombs are falling from the sky.
So just don't don't do it. Right? This is the one time we all have to be like, I don't care who's in charge of what. Let's just get her done. Let's just get this finished so no more innocent people have to, you know, fear for their lives.
I I think that's the one thing that really made me say, wow. For those who are trying to point at the contradictions of that, it's like, what do you wanna do? You you you you want them to fight? You want them to come over here? Like, I get it.
There are people who don't like the president, but in this one thing that infects the whole world Yeah. Not a matter of being right or wrong, but it's a matter of, like, the fact that there's peace here. Right. And, I mean, we've talked about it on this show from my own perspective. He's not the guy I'd wanna be handling this, obviously.
We've talked about it. I also don't like that, you know, we got involved at all. Yeah. Like and and we talked about that when we got involved in our other emergency episode, Matt and I did. So you can have critiques of him and of what he's done, but you should not be actively cheering for a ceasefire to fail.
Yeah. Right. Insane for doing that. Stop. Don't do that anymore.
Just, you know, give yourself a little bop on the nose if you find yourself thinking, oh, I really hope this peace deal doesn't work. Nope. Put yourself in put yourself in time out for ten minutes. There you go. Think about what you've done, and then then you can come back out.
There There you go, brother. There you go. And to keep up with, another major political story that went viral across the country. Right? Mhmm.
This is a name you'll be hearing all summer long. Zoran Mamdani. Zoran Mamdani made history in New York City during on Tuesday. Right? So on June 24, also this Tuesday, the twenty fourth, two and no.
On 06/24/2025, Zohra Mamdani, a 33 year old democratic socialist and New York City assembly member from Queens, won the democratic primary for New York City mayor. Shocking the field by defeating former governor Andrew Cuomo, a candidate who had almost $25,000,000 back behind him, but the people spoke. And Zoron is your Democratic primary is your Democratic is your Democratic nominee for the mayor of New York City. Why is this a big deal? Well, his campaign, focus on affordability, rent freezes, free transit, and grocery stores, energize young college educated voters and blue collar residents.
Seen seen as a shift toward democratic socialism within the the New York City democratic primary, That's one of the things, the ideology here. And it is shaking the establishment. Let's be real. And a lot of people had various opinions. In early November, we will have election day where Zoran will be going up against the current mayor of New York City, Eric Adams, as he's going as he's going in as an independent, the Republican nominee who went uncontested, but Curtis Silva, who is the founder of the Guardian Angels, who lost their marriage.
Probably like him. Yeah. Exactly. Hey. Your parents probably like him.
And he's gonna be the Republican. There's also rumors of Cuomo possibly entering in as an independent too. But this got a this was national news, Zoran making it. And, no, he has very he has various he he has very big and ambitious ideas. And the fact that he is a democratic socialist is a big deal too.
He's also Muslim, and he's from Uganda, but, grew up in New York City in Queens. And, yeah, this is though exciting to some, it's also polarizing to others, and we're just gonna see how everybody campaigns against each other. And for a city that is traditionally often very democratic, left social, left liberal, It would be very interesting to see if Zohron can become the mayor of New York at a very young age as well. Only a few years older than the three of us in this room. But he said in his victory speech, he declared, quote, I will be your democratic nominee for the mayor of New York City.
I will be the mayor for every New Yorker. Whether you voted for me or felt too disillusioned by a long broken political system to vote at all. But yes. How about that? For the New York City resident in this, do you have anything to say?
Yeah. How was Tuesday in New York? I I didn't actually vote this time, which is Ah. So but did you, like, hear stuff? Like, were people doing things or no?
Is this Yeah. So, like, in my neighborhood, it was very, like I got a lot of, like, pamphlets and handouts, which I thought was super cool because, like, I didn't know I don't think I'm, like, established enough yet. I mean, it's been, like, two years, but, like, I'm not established enough yet to know when things are kinda going on. Mhmm. Makes sense.
So I have to, like, usually hear about it for, like, word-of-mouth or social media or something like that. But it was cool in the area because, like, there were a lot of people handing out pamphlets. So I, like, kinda learned a lot about, like, the candidates and things like that. But, yeah, I think that's only gonna vote in what do we say? November?
Yeah. November is the the general. Always. Yeah. Yeah.
And yeah. The primaries change, but November is always the general elections. But a lot of people feel like if we go from historic from if we follow history, the Democratic nominee usually does win. Eric Adams won as a Democrat, but, you know, he's been doing dog he's been doing a dog shit job realizing that he might not but realizing but I'm just saying realizing that he probably couldn't win the primary. He goes as an independent.
Well, that and, you know, the whole he has to do whatever Trump says or he goes to federal prison. Yeah. From that probably. His I think it's probably the Turkish too. From that, his, ties with the Turkish government, pipping out New York City pretty much in words of Ryan, and also just crime is high, congestion pricing is a thing.
People are off the governor in fairness. But yeah. True. But He could've said something. He did not he could've I mean, yeah, he's not a fight that.
But, also, I mean, just, you know, obviously, rent's a problem as it is everywhere, but really bad. I mean, Allison, even though he's better than me, but, like, you know, New York City is a tough place to be in for both commuters, visitors, and residents. So this could be a change even if it's a change that maybe not a lot of people agree with. That's the one thing with with with Zo. I'm just gonna call him Zo.
He's so Is that the fact that, you know, he does have these these big ideas. No socialist has become the mayor of New York in a big May a big mayor a mayor in a major city like this. I mean, you know, there's people who've been socialists who've been elected to congress and stuff, but this would be a big deal if he would actually do that. It would change the establishment, and it's interesting to see what is actually gonna unfold, in my opinion, at least. I mean, yeah, we've only had just a handful of people who call themselves democratic socialists with anything.
Right? Bernie Sanders. And he again, as much as he calls himself that, he also ran as an independent. AOC, again, she kinda, like, associates with the democratic socialist, but she's never run like that. She's always, you know, run as a traditional democrat in terms of, like, the line she's on.
So, yeah, it's def it it would be a very high profile win for that particular group. I wanna say two things that are separate. So I'll go quick on both. Number one, I think this is just my opinion. People are probably over reading what this means.
Mhmm. And they're thinking that this is some sort of, like, we all need to start voting for, like, Bernie's and AOCs and Rashida to leave, and and I don't think that's what this was. I think it was exactly what you think it is. The guy he beat was the former governor who was booted from office for a scandal. Yeah.
He's an older man with a lot of money, and he's power hungry. That's the only reason he's running for this is because he's not currently still governor. Exactly. People would technically be a demotion in a way. Yeah.
But but I mean, demotion, technically, but since he got kicked out of the Governor's Mansion, he's like, well, I'll try and win New York. Look. It's to me, this is about the fact that people are done with status quo. That doesn't mean you have to have free groceries or not for government government subsidized groceries or rent freezes. Like, that.
Yes. That is the platform that this particular candidate believes in, and that is what he's running on, and we'll see how that does. But the reason he got the nomination is because people are just fed up with their status quo. If you wanna run for office, do it in this next election. Even if your even if your person's not retiring, people are tired of the same old.
They want new ideas. They want new people on bare minimum, they want new people on their television screens complaining about stuff. So this is this should be a wake up call to everybody who's currently in office as well. Start talking to people because nobody likes you. Just assume that you're losing your current primary today.
If you if you care about your job, assume that you're already losing your primary even if nobody has announced against you. Because if somebody does, that's I think got a coin flip at or better to beat you. So that's number one. I think reading this as we all have to be socialist now is probably incorrect. Doesn't mean he's not gonna win.
It doesn't mean he's not a socialist. I just don't think that's why people voted for him. I think they voted for him because he wasn't Andrew Cuomo, and people are tired of the same old. Yeah. Number two I think that's pretty obvious to to smart people like me, Ryan, and Allison, but other people just the overgeneralizing.
Well, even I think his ideas I even say told Ryan, batshit crazy ideas. I'll admit saying that, but it's just the not saying they're bad ideas. They're just batshit crazy. Right. No.
I get what you're saying. Yeah. But it's the idea of just something different, and I really like the anti establishment part of this. And, also, it's just the the most ridiculous thing I heard about this is, yes, he's a Muslim, and people were saying, well, he's a Muslim, but nine eleven. That's so that's that's point two that I wanna Oh, sorry.
Sorry. Sorry. I didn't mean I didn't wanna Go ahead. You're breaking up your point. No.
It's good. I I wanna hear what you're saying. Yeah. So everybody everybody you know, there's a lot of folks, particularly Jewish folks in New York and, you know, others who are who are worried or upset or whatever about this Muslim thing, and they're they're trying to find ways to talk around. Some of them some of them are just saying it out loud, and I guess, kudos to you for just saying it out loud.
The guy that everybody is now turning to, all these folks, Democrats mostly, or independents who are who are upset that Mamdani won and are looking to stop him from being mayor, they're turning to the current mayor, Eric Adams. Eric Adams was literally caught working for Turkey. Turkey is a Muslim majority country. He was literally working. Again, that shouldn't matter.
The fact that it's a foreign country should be the only real problem. But if you're sitting here with your whole chest talking about Muslim this or Muslim or whatever, however people are saying it in New York, I don't know. If you're talking like that, and now you're supporting Adams, who actually was selling out New York from a Muslim majority country, then your issue isn't the that. It's it's that he, specifically, the guy is Muslim. You're not upset about nine eleven or Muslims or anything like that.
You're upset that the individual running for mayor is Muslim. And that is just bigotry. There's nothing else to call it. I'm not gonna call it anything else. There's nothing else to call that.
You don't like that he's a socialist, say that. But anyone who's jumping to Adams to stop it because he's a because a Muslim can't be the mayor of New York because of nine eleven or whatever. So dumb. I mean, literally quite literally shut the hell up. And and, again, I don't even know if I'm going to talk to the guy.
Yeah. I like, I don't I'm not in New York. I don't know if I would have voted for the guy or not. I would have to have looked at everybody else running. But I do know that I would never be like, I want the corrupt politician.
Like, they caught him too. The the confirmed corrupt politician who's only still allowed because he cut a deal with Donald Trump to get that pardon or drop the case or whatever they did. I want him instead of this new fresh guy because the new fresh guy's, you know, the wrong skin tone or praised the wrong way. I that I don't have any time for that. I mean, that's kinda like what people did when Obama was running.
People didn't vote for him because he was black. Sure. I mean, yes. Although, there's actually a lot of people who voted for him because he was black, and I don't actually mean black people. I mean white people.
That that was who's David Axelrod? Obama's, like, guy who ran that campaign. He's he's a big deal. He's actually from New Canaan. We're not from New Canaan.
He's from Chicago, but he lived in New Canaan a long time, Matt. Yeah. In Connecticut. Yeah. He said that he talked he he said that there was pulling of theirs that showed that there were a lot of, like, you know, more liberal white people who were, like, chomping at the bit to vote for Obama to prove they weren't racist, essentially.
Like, I'm not racist. I vote for Obama. That which is, of course, now a cliche because if the you know? But anyway, like, the from Get Out. Right?
Yeah. I would have voted, for a third term. Yeah. Exactly. Like, that sort of person.
So there's act that's actually a real category of person that wasn't just a a joke from that particular movie. So And that's and that's from Obama's, like, campaign manager. But, anyway, no. I I I I yes. Obviously, whenever you're first, there's going to be some hesitancy, but I I don't know.
And maybe I mean, I'm sure all these people the all these people are New Yorkers, so they all know what happened on 09/11 as me and Matt do. We were in that area. And to invoke 09:11 over a mayoral campaign. Like, seriously. That's almost mature people.
So many immature people. It's so gross. That's almost worse than the people who are doing all the Halliburton jokes because at least those people clearly don't know. Those were kids who weren't there, and it's just, like, it's just pages in the history book to them. These are, like, adults in New York, therefore, they were there.
They watched it happen. And they've decided for political reasons to pretend that a democratically elected official not even official, just a nominee is is an apt comparison or to tie to that particular atrocity. I don't know. To me, that's just really, really cheap, and I think folks should pay attention to who those are, especially in the Democratic party because there's plenty of them. And whether Maumdani wins or loses, you know, if he loses, they're gonna say, see.
We told you. Those people should never work in your I would never want those people to work in my party again. And I am a Democrat, so I'm gonna put that out there now. I don't want those people working anymore. I don't want those people involved anymore.
They can go sit on the sidelines with their thumb up their ass. So the last thing on this, there was a viral tweet that came out of this. There's this guy, mill Murray Hill guy. Have you seen him on Twitter or heard of him? He's just a dude in New York.
That's all he is. Just a dude in New York, like, being a dude in New York. And, so this came out regarding a date named Julia. Right? Oh, I did see this.
So let me show you guys this. Then there's a part two. See? Right? He writes, hey.
Just confirming. Still good for tonight. See you at 08:30 at Little Rebel, which, Allison, you know about Little Rebel? Heard of it? Yeah.
It's on my it's on my, list I wanna go to, actually. I heard it's really good. Well, Murray Hill might be looking for a new date. Anyway, we'll get to that one. So, yeah, by this little I actually know again.
This little hill, I guess, just so you know, looks beautiful. Looks affordable too. They're here on East Fourteenth Street. Okay. So watch that place get that place probably has, you know, more clout now from this tweet.
From this tweet. Million views. Right? Okay. She said, hey.
Yes. This still works. I just wanna ask one thing to make sure you are on the same page and not waste time. Did you vote for Zoran for mayor? I'm really excited he won.
And he sends a a reservation can a canceled reservation picture. Your reservation has been canceled, little rebel, from Rezzy. Unbelievable. So we got a part two. Of course.
She wrote later, glad we didn't waste each other's time. I also have seen you posted this screenshot on Twitter. Your page is disgusting. If you do not delete your post, I'm going to the police. I do not need this in my life right now.
This week has been insanely stressful. He writes, didn't you just vote to defund the police? Now you wanna call them over a Twitter post? Good luck. Oh, boy.
Come on. That's funny. I'm sorry. Oh, boy. And that is one of, Zoran's, political promises to defund the police.
Right? No. It's not. But that's fine. Well, she he he wants to defund the police.
Let's allocate resources differently, but it's okay. Go. Yes. Continue. But, anyways, he police, big change.
That's what Zoran wants. Change to police. Yes. We'll we'll agree. Change to police in New York City.
Okay. For sure. She said, please do not message or contact me again. I reported your post to the police. You will be hearing from my lawyer.
About what? Bernie Blair's Law, you know, the situation. What would the what would her lawyer say? I don't know. She didn't he didn't post where she lives, her her name.
Or her number. I mean Yeah. Exactly. Oh, you know there's a Julia in New York City. I mean, listen.
I don't know if the guy is actually anti Zoran or not. I took I didn't see the second one. I assumed from the first one that he's just somebody who did not wanna spend an entire date talking about the freaking mayoral election that had just happened, and I respect that thousand percent. I don't you know what I mean? If it comes up organically, maybe because it's on the TV Yeah.
I wouldn't have even brought it up. The fact that she texted and said, did you vote for this person for mayor? 100% agree on canceling reservation. And, again, I I think it you know, even if he did vote for him, I would have been like I mean, I I didn't know. I guess if I did vote for him and she asked that and she was really attractive, I'm gonna be like, yes.
And then leave it at that and hope it didn't come up again. But, like, I get why you will wanna do that because you don't wanna spend your entire day when you're trying to get to know somebody getting to know about a mayoral candidate. Mhmm. Like, that's not Zolro. You can go to you yeah.
You could go to a candidate forum or whatever. You go to their website. You don't need your date telling you about them. You can learn about them yourself if you want. Now the second one made it sound a little bit like maybe he just doesn't like Maumdani.
And if that's the case, I mean, fine. You're still entitled to your opinion. But, I mean, that's a little bit more that's a little bit more him saying, I don't like your politics, so I canceled my reservation. It's kinda him using politics to make his decisions too. I actually thought that was I thought that was that's what I got out of the initial response besides that.
That he just didn't like Zohron, and he doesn't wanna be with someone like Zohron. I I just got two. Yeah. I didn't. So I initially said, oh, he just doesn't wanna talk about the mayor election, which I'm 100% for.
But the second one confirms to me that he doesn't like Zoran. And I'm like, so, dude, you're doing the same thing that she's doing. She wanted to bring up politics, and your response was to cancel because of your politics. So that means it matters to you too, jackass. You know what I mean?
Like, what if you had gone on the date and she had mentioned that she had, you know, oh, yeah. Yesterday, I voted. And you're like, oh, who'd you vote for? She goes, oh, Zoran. Even if she wasn't, like, passionate about it, If it had just come up in a conversation, which it might, the election happened that week.
So I don't know. Lost a lot of lot of respect lost for Murray Hill guy. Lot of respect because I thought he was being normal. Turns out he was being weird too. But well Yeah.
Also He was making me laugh, but I respect your opinion. And That's some of the little rebel. Shame. Just a shame. Exactly.
She could've You didn't vote. You didn't vote. He's not so horrible. No. No.
No. But this is this is good. You wanna go to Little Rebel. Marie Hill guy wanna go to Little Rebel. You just hit him up on socials.
Be like, hey. Honestly, he doesn't talk. Like, just pay for the meal, and we'll we'll call it a day. Like, it's fine. Well, I just I mean, why do you care if he talks?
No. He can talk, but not, like, about this stuff. Ah, who cares if he talks about that stuff? True. It's free.
Free little rebel. Politics. Thing I don't understand. And early dating, don't mix. Don't try it.
I mean, it's hard, though, because That's why I don't put it on my dating profile. It will come up eventually. So you've gotta Same same here. Prefer not to say or skip or something. Yeah.
It will come up, though, eventually. It will. At least after your intimate moments, after, like Sure. Yeah. The deads.
You then you could bring it up after your intimate moments with each other. Like, I once got yelled at for being Thank you. I put the one time I put moderate, someone was yelling at me for that. Like, get over yourself. Moderate's an option?
On Hinge, it is. Why wouldn't everyone just put why wouldn't everyone be moderate? Option. Exactly. Like, you tell me, Ryan.
So confident that you moderate, and then you find everybody. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, oh, I know. I'll be moderate, and then I can date anybody.
But that's how my mind works anyway, but I don't know. Mhmm. So I wanna talk about this story regarding the world of gambling. First things things first. I'm aware, and we all aware, gambling is something that is a vice.
Gambling is something you have to be careful with. Yeah. But like most people, people can gamble responsibly. For those who can't, there are many great resources to help you overcome that addiction, as was, like, many addictions in this world from food, alcohol, drugs, sex addiction in all seriousness. That's the thing.
Porn addiction, all that stuff. Like, it's a vice. And I know it's not for everybody, and there's various opinions on it, but I think gambling I'm interested in gambling. I wager, for this for what was at one point my go to sportsbooks are gonna heavily criticize now. So no chance of that, sponsor happening.
But it has something has to be said regarding this. Right? And I do think Mhmm. I like gambling because it is another way to watch and analyze sports and seeing how other perspectives on things on how good a team is going to be or a player or vice versa. Right?
We have FanDuel Sports. Right? I will let this guy paint the picture named Ev Hand. Right? But, basically, long story short, there's something you know a parlay.
A parlay is one bet where you put multiple props in. Props is an individual bet. There's something called since sports gambling became legalized in 2018, and in I think it's almost half the states in The United States has legalized gambling now, and all four major league sports have gambling deals with these sportsbooks, they were avoiding it. Well, there's just too much damn money involved that they joined it. And they make billions of dollars a day in profit from, sports wagering.
Right? So one of the industries that has grown from sports gambling is called sports discourse. Right? They're little you've heard of a discord in general. People who will go in Discords, they will go in this app and almost create a big group chat to share, you know, various informations.
Now their discourse for anything, gaming discords, obviously, streaming discords, influencer discords. Gaming discords is another one. And people just come together in a group, and they'll share bets. They'll give sports research. They'll give parlays, and, you know, you bet.
Right? They make your bet. So then we go this this discord made a parlay, a home run parlay. This would have been for either Monday or Tuesday. Right?
All home runs. Right? They bet that seven players would hit a home run. Right? Which is virtually impossible.
Right? Right. But every once in a while, it's your lucky day, and all seven all seven people all the seven players they picked hit a home run. That's crazy. The odds were, like, plus 90,000.
There was a one in ninety thousand chance that this would happen, and it happened. Oh, man. So they bet $10 to win $100,000, and they had no choice but to pay them off. But this Discord probably, you know, on Twitter it's commented on Twitter said, hey. Look.
We hit this bet. We turned people's $10,000 to 6 figures. FanDuel gets a hold of it. They said, fuck that. And they said that if we find out you're in a Discord group, your your bet is getting voided, and, we don't have to pay you out as long as you agree to that.
Right? Exactly. Big, big major problem for that on a business standpoint and contradicting standpoint. A lot of people are gonna sue over this, and it's gonna be a big mess. But I'll show you again the professional here to break it down, if you just, hear wanna hear another perspective on it.
But wild that they actually did that. Maybe I'm the sucker who also agreed to it, but I didn't read the terms and conditions. So fine. That's on me. And I have been in discourse before.
I don't anymore because most of them, you know, lead me to bullshit. But this one, if I did for once. And by bullshit, I mean, they just give me bad bets. So I just gotta trust myself. So, anyways, let me show you now what I'm talking about here with this guy, and he'll break it down even more.
Biggest scam companies in the entire world because what they did this morning is actually crazy. So there's this guy on Twitter. Right? His name is JB, and he runs this Only Parleys, like, betting discord. Long story short, he owns a discord community where people pay for his picks.
You're welcome for the shout out. And last night, he put out this home run parlay for all of his subscribers. Min this. He's got one. Okay.
See, it was plus ninety one nine hundred eleven thousand six hundred. So there was a one in nine hundred thousand chance that this would happen. And it happened. One in a million. Yeah.
Yeah. Literally, let's just say to make it easier. One in a million chance that this happened, it actually hit. And this person used it on a bonus bet, so he didn't even just pay spend any money. And, Aaron Judge was part of it.
How about that? Two, three, four, five, six, seven different people to hit a home run. The odds were plus 911,600. So six out of the seven hit, and finally it comes down to James Wood. As you can probably tell where the story is going, James Wood goes yard.
You probably can't even see it down there, but he bet $11 and it paid out $100,276.06. Over a 100 k for an $11 bet. Bet. But now this morning, all these FanDuel customers wake up to new terms and conditions. And in layman's terms, FanDuel is basically saying, hey, we're really pissed about having to pay out a 100 k or more to a bunch of different people last night.
That's not gonna happen going forward. If we think you and a bunch of other people from a discord made a bet, we have the right to void it. Even if you want it fair and square. Which is pretty ironic because they promote everybody hopping on a Gronk parlay every NFL season. But this is just even more proof that we don't even need that gambling is completely rigged.
A house always wins. Mhmm. Is running one of the The house always does win, but that's such So That is so egregious. That is so dumb. And for a company that that makes billions a day in profit, that really shouldn't affect you that much, honestly.
So can I ask a question? Did they take away like, did they not pay those guys? No. They paid they paid they paid those guys. They said, fine.
We took our l. But from now on, if we know you're in a Discord, you are not gonna and you hit, you're not gonna get paid from FanDuel. So DraftKings, whoop. Yeah. Goes up.
Fanatics, whoop. Say. Yeah. BetMGM. I would say.
Ignores your in Discord. They'll probably do hardcore social media research. These are popular on Instagram and Twitter. You know, like, here are my bets. So we're like, here or if they say, look.
I hit that. That's where they'll find it. If they really wanna go hard, and who knows? I can't trust FanDuel after that. What the hell?
Yeah. Okay. So this changes or it doesn't change because I didn't react yet. This modifies my action slightly. They can put whatever they want in their terms and conditions.
And if you sign up for them and you know you're signing up for them and now everybody should know, then that's on you. That being said, if you are, like, a a real gambler, right, like, you you join these Discords and things like that, then, yeah, you you just you can't use FanDuel. Exactly. They're not gonna pay you. If you look If they find out you're on a Discord.
Sure. But I'll be honest with you. They're not even gonna look enough to actually find your Discord necessarily. What they'll probably do is if you have a ton of gambling content on your social medias, they'll assume you're on a Discord. They'll tell you you've been colluding or whatever and you're not getting paid, and then they'll force you to prove them wrong.
And, also, if you have all that content, they're probably not wrong, and that's why they'll do that. So, yeah, to me, this should kill their company for most people. Like, most real gamblers or principal people, should leave FanDuel, cash out There's a good chance I'm leaving. I did use FanDuel for the past couple years, but I'll just go to DraftKings. That's it.
Yeah. Or there was, what, the MGM book instead of the one, bed Bette Rivers, Fanatics, bed MGM, as you said. So many of them. Doesn't Barstow have one too? Barstow has one.
Yeah. So, yeah, to be honest with you, this is dumb because no one's gonna follow suit. I mean, if anyone follows suit, that changes the conversation. If they all decide, yeah, actually, we like that clause. We're gonna put it in there.
That's gonna become This is this interesting story Because then it becomes, oh, who where do we bet? But someone is going to take the risk. The smaller ones, anyway, will take the risk. At the bare minimum, they're gonna say, you know what? All the big guys are trying to preserve their money by making it harder to win, so we're just gonna let it be fucking, you know, chance again and and get all of the people.
Because, again, one in a million, they're freaking out over a one in a million shot. That will never happen again. It just won't happen again. It's hard to get one person to hit one home run. It's a bet on that.
And and and the idea that the reason these seven people hit a home run is because of Discord? Like, what what are you talking about? Yeah. Like, the thing didn't happen because of Discord. Someone just saw a bet and said, ah, I'll take that bet for 1 and a million.
Mhmm. Like, it's insane that they've changed any rule about this. This was just bad luck. Genuinely, this is Bad luck for their sports book. Yeah.
No. This is honestly them this is them trying to use, you know, legalese to to just jack up profit. There is nothing about this that's nefarious in any meaningful way. The one? They can do what they want, but I think it's stupid, and I hope they, I hope they suffer for it.
Not, obviously, in any mean way, but I do hope they lose a lot of money, from people leaving their sportsbook. The one thing I am interested in because, as you said, there are lots of sportsbooks, but the big two are FanDuel and DraftKings. Those are the ones that have deals with the leagues itself, especially NFL. Well, when that's the biggest season for gambling is football. And, you know, someone like Kay Adams, Pat McAfee was worked with FanDuel till he went went to ESPN.
ESPN has a sportsbook too, by the way. I'm just curious that like, you saw Gronk is sponsored by them. Bill Simmons. Will Bill Simmons be the one to say, hey. That's that's fucked up.
That is a perfect Bill Simmons story. But, you know, doesn't wanna lose that deal. They pay they pay him, so he'll agree with them is what he'll do. Let's be honest. If he talks about it, he'll agree with them.
Yeah. And I haven't seen anything like that. But, yeah, it's just such a dumb story. It's so silly, especially for a company that, again, makes billions in revenue a days. Unfortunately, from gambling addicts and people who are crazy too, honestly, there could be one person, one person alone who's bet a $100,000 who's, like, has disposable income that could get your money back at FanDuel.
Shohei Ohtani. Yeah. Exactly. With that whole thing. No.
But in all seriousness, also, I will say the fact that the sportsbooks are hypocritical, that shouldn't surprise anybody. We ban people from sports for life if they get caught gambling. There are people who cannot put on a jersey ever again in the league of their of that they got drafted into. And that jersey that they'll never get to put on again will quite literally say DraftKings on the back Mhmm. Or FanDuel on the corner.
So hypocrisy and sports gambling are basically the same word, and I I we've talked about that. We won't get into the gambling too deep. But, yeah, it doesn't surprise me that they're a bunch of low good hypocrites. I'm just surprised that people are surprised by it if we're being totally honest. For sure.
And I guess, you know, like, it's it's still so relatively new and such a part of the sports of sports communication in general now. Like, you see everything. Now next to thing, you will see odds to every sports to anything pregame, you'll see odds to it. You could bet right right at a game. Yeah.
So ESPN, this whole show's about the sports betting. Fantasy football is all about, money lines and things like that too. Yeah. So we'll see how this unfolds. I do think this would be even imagine this is NFL season.
That would have been something too. But they hit it right at the end of right when it's only base you can only really bet on baseball and women's basketball right now. I mean, horse racing too. Now now they should have bet on seven home runs in women's basketball. That would have been impressive.
Again, one in a million. Alright. They're all just they're all just Angel Reese rebounds. You know, they did they the one thing sportsbooks do now, they have you have to if you wanna hit a profit with her, yeah, she has to have 20 rebounds because they know There is. Yeah.
Like Yeah. Yeah. Off the top of my head. Because she's gonna she's gonna miss a million shots and get all the rebounds. Yeah.
It's kind of a cool way to boost your stats. I never thought about it. Just keep getting your own rebound. Be the rebound king of the, w and queen or whatever. That's where the eye test will go in.
You better know your eye test at that point. Yeah. Okay. Does height matter in this world? Right?
In the world of dating, how important is height? In basketball, it does. Miss For rebounds. That's why a lot of people like, that's why people like basketball players. But, Allison, does does height matter to you in the world of dating?
No. No. It doesn't? Okay. Ryan, does it matter to you?
Shorter than me. Wait. Oh, Adam. When you say no, do you mean, like, no no? Like, five five, you're in, that's fine, or you mean, like, you know, five one?
I'm five six, and I've dated a guy shorter than me. Okay. Okay. So then yeah. No.
You you're being because I mean, sorry. I mean, obviously, there are people who are very short, but usually, like, a shorter guy is between, like, you know, five five and five nine. Mhmm. I'm five nine, and so for obvious reasons, I'm not picky about height because I'm not that tall. And so, you know, usually, you want a shorter girl, but a girl who's shorter than me I mean, my wife is shorter than me by a few inches, but having a person too much shorter than me would be, you know, too short.
And so, I don't mind having someone who's closer to my height, personally just because I'm not that tall, and that's can't be helped. The rest of my family's tall, but not me. Mhmm. Like, I would prefer someone taller. How much?
But Like, six foot? Like, just foot dead. I would say, like, five seven higher because I'm five six. So it's like Okay. And maybe an inch taller or something.
But if it doesn't work out like that, like, if I'm swiping on apps, I'm not gonna look at the height and be like, oh, he's only five six. So So how does this is something that I'm kinda curious about. I'm sure we have a clip or something that we're kind of looking at right now, but, like, so you're, like, five I'm five six. Right? So five seven is good, right, in your mind.
And I'm just thinking, like, one inch does nothing. Realistically, like, they're they're your height. If you're five six and they're five seven, you are essentially the same height because in inches, like, you know, whatever. It's like your forehead here. Like, it's not you're you're still gonna be eye to eye.
You're still gonna be eye to eye. And so at that point, what is the difference? Right? That's my opinion anyway. People who are like it it it happens guys all the time.
I'll add, like, one inch to to the this way. I mean, maybe another way, but this way is what I'm talking about. And then it's like, why, dude? First of all, they could tell. Like, if you go if you're not if you're not six foot, they'll know you're not six foot.
But also, like, even if you're close to six foot, why be, like, no. I'm six feet. Just I'm five I'm five ten. I'm five eleven. Like, it's one inch.
You're not gonna it's not it's negligible. I don't know. That's just me. I find one inch to be negligible, but then you brought up $75.02. 7 is better than $5.05.
And I'm like, alright. I guess. But This is you know, again, I one thing I have, I I'm six feet. I'm above average height. Right?
And, it's never mattered to me either, but it's helped me in my advantage sometimes. And, Well, yeah. About to say this because most women are shorter than you. Yeah. I've I've only dated people the farthest.
I've dated people eye length. I never dated anyone taller than me, and that's a really tall girl, at that point. But, anyway, you though? Yeah. I did date somebody taller than me.
There's some WNBA players I have crushes on. See, I'm down on I'm down here on the ground with the ladies at five nine. So I I I mean, you know what I mean? Like, it's it's vicious down here. We're all looking up, making sure we don't get stepped on.
So I I yeah. You know? I think it's easy from six foot to be like, oh, I don't care about height. No. When you're five nine, you gotta think about these things.
What are your pictures gonna look like? But, but no. In all seriousness Third kid's gonna be tall. Again, my whole family is tall. There's a world where I have a kid who is, like, six four because everyone in my family is tall.
Matt has met my family, obviously. Everyone in my family is tall but me. My sister is Matt's height. My sister. My brother is taller than her.
So you had the repulsive gene? Yeah. My mom is taller than me, like, by an inch. Same with, like, my dad was injured and half taller than me. My grandmother, my mom's mom, is five three or something.
So I'd be My grandma's, like, four eleven. Yeah. So it's me and my grandma. And most of the tall people are from my dad's side of the family. That's where he's from.
A lot of my mom's side side's Italian, and so we're all short. So except for my grandpa who's Italian at six foot four. But, which you if there's some too. So yeah. Yes.
It's crazy. Everyone's tall but me. And, again, my grandmother. We're just sitting down here watching the eyes to the sky. I will say, though, some girls are really mean to shortcuts.
Tongue girls are so mean. And I'll just Yeah. The height thing? Yeah. Yes.
And I'm saying that as a, like, a girl. Like, it's so funny because the situation I told you guys about before we started the show, I was, like, telling my friend about it, and she's like, Alisa, I don't even know why you liked him. He was short. And I'm like That's the perfect set. He was he was probably an inch, maybe two inches shorter than me.
Okay. So he was shorter than five six, though. So that is short for a guy. Yeah. That is pretty short.
And he's he was a short Italian, so whatever. Well yeah. Yeah. No. That makes sense.
But Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, some girls are brutal. Like And I guess there there's this, clip I'm about to show you about that, some girls being mean about height or or make a generalizations about height to this tall content creator. So let me show you what I'm talking about.
Oh, spoiler for later. Does height matter in a guy? Yes. Yeah. If he's not six four balls Does height matter in a guy?
Yes. Yeah. If he's not six four balls, he's not it. So you're judging What a expectation. Six four.
Four. My brother's six four. Oh, man. He's at the That's a tall and that's a tall dude. That is a really that's really tall.
Like, I feel like really tall six two and up is really tall. Was he an was he an athlete at six four? He was. See, I think that's, and I think that's, by the way, what these girls are trying to say, but not successfully. They just wanna date a professional athlete.
I know your brother's not a professional athlete. Oh, I'm I'm just saying, like, they just wanna date a professional athlete, and so they just pick an obscenely tall number. Anyway, sorry. Continue. Guys based on something they can't change, though.
Yeah. I'm sorry. How do you matter in a guy? Yes. Yeah.
If he's not 64, he's not it. So you're judging guys based on something they can't change, though? Yeah. I'm sorry. Alright.
But I judge based on unnatural beauty. I see you guys got a lot of makeup on, so let's see what you look like without the makeup. Take it off. Oh, damn. I'm still not.
Height is equal to makeup? No. That it's actually not. That's the point. Because you guys can change how much makeup.
I can't change my height. That's So you're judging based Yeah. It's tough. Right? Yeah.
So just take back height matters. No. I stand on it. Then then take the makeup off. Nope.
For both of them, that's far. I can't. So you don't look good without makeup is what you're saying. Do, but, like, not as good. All these girls that do this, they they act all confident, and then they see themselves on the video later, and then they comment and DM me.
They're like, bro, please take it down. I You can't say height matters. No. I'm not shaking your hand. I got a girlfriend, but does height I like this guy.
Also, that is it. I mean, he's probably not six four, but that guy was tall. Exactly. Right? He's all himself.
That he's tall. I don't know what the hell their problem was. He might have been standing up for the show, man. It well, it's you know? But I think he has a great point.
How come why do some people, you know, have this expectation for something they can't change? In this particular case, a girl to a a guy, it's it's it's an it's an unfair expectation. And there are people who are so insecure about height. You see these, like, innovative Drive stretcheries. Yeah.
I know. I hate all that. Yeah. I thought that that was crazy. So my thing is, like and this is gonna be a weird one.
But here's my thing. Let's say you're a girl and you genuinely do not find guys under six four attractive. That's a weird thing, and, like, you and your therapist maybe should unpack why that's a requirement, but fine. It's a requirement. You can't force yourself to be interested in selling you're not interested in.
Now, obviously, this guy was like, take your makeup off. It was meant to be confrontational for the video and have you know, they're drunk and you know? Right? We've seen those You know what it is? It was called a tip I'm gonna say this, but it's true.
You know that Okay. White girls with their vapes. Yeah. Right. You could Such as good such as too, by the way.
Yeah. It really just shows that know. Yeah. So it it really shows that tobacco smoking never went away. They just completely replaced it with something else.
It's changed what it was. Yeah. Exactly. But, anyway Nicotine, that is, I should say. Go nicotine companies.
Yeah. So, like, obviously, what he was saying was meant to be kind of antagonistic. But I do think if a guy was like, listen. I don't like the look of a ton of makeup. I'm not I don't find it attractive when someone comes in with too much makeup on.
If a guy had said that, I feel like again, it's not what he said, and I do understand that, and that's, I think, part of it. But had he said that, I think they would have reacted similarly. And to me, that's inappropriate. Because if yes. If you don't if you're just not attracted to short people, then someone can just be not attracted to the way you dress or the way that you, like, you know, style your hair.
Like, attraction is really hard to pin down. Like, it is. You just are or you're not attracted to somebody. And so the idea that you can, like, browbeat somebody into being attracted to you, like, through political correctness or whatever, I think is crazy. If somebody says you wear too much makeup, be like, alright.
Well, I like my makeup, so I'm gonna keep it. Goodbye. And if someone says, I'm sorry. You're too short. Be like, well, I like how tall I am.
So I guess you can keep walking. You know what I mean? Like, we we all gotta just be a little bit more, like, keen to stand up for ourselves, I think, and advocate for our own selves. Problem is we all hate ourselves in a little bit low key in modern day, and that's why we don't do that. And that's why we have all these problems that we have.
If we all were willing to stand up for our own selves and say, that's that's you, man. You you say what you gotta say. Yeah. I don't even think that guy was even that bad about it. I think he was just making a strong point.
Like, he really didn't say anything bad. No. He didn't say anything bad. But the whole, like, take your makeup off. Again, he was trying to get them to react for the video.
Right? You know what I mean? Like, it's content. If I was having that same conversation, I wouldn't be like, take your makeup off, like, you know, at a bar. I'd be like, you wear a lot of makeup.
Why do you wear make you know what I mean? Like, how is that any different if I say I don't like your makeup? Like, that's how you would actually have that conversation. He did it a different way to try and elicit a reaction, and it worked, by the way. He's a very good content creator.
But, I so I do think that, like, in a normal conversation, that's not what somebody would say. I mean, maybe somebody would get so mad at being told they were too short to date They'd be like, well, take your makeup off. Right? But I don't think most people would. I think most people would be like, why is it okay for you to say I'm too short?
Like, what if I said you have too much makeup? I don't like Yeah. Like, had he said that, I think because they were drunk, they still would have responded the way they did. But that's how, like, a normal person would have brought that up. So, you know, it's hard to say, but he's right.
And it is a double standard, and it does exist. That's true. There you go. We've talked about this often. Who pays for the first date?
Right? And we came up with the I don't know if this is a trend. I've had I've had I'm I'm gonna show you a few examples of this. But Mhmm. We talked about this.
Right? Who should pay for the first date? At least the first date, whomever asks the person on the date should pay for it. Most of the time, it is the guy, but, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with the guy paying on a first date. No.
That's that's the risk you you are willing to take. You save your money. You got your tip and all of that. That's the risk. Right?
Mhmm. So I guess people are still confused by this rule. And there's also people who feel like let's be real. Some jerk offs are like, man, I'm only gonna pay for this if I get something in return. Oh my god.
So annoying. Yeah. This is the trend. Alright. I'm gonna go out on this, but let's play them.
So I got a few of these. They're catching people who are on first dates and, you know, wanting to split it because, well, they didn't agree to go home with them. Just mad, cringe, and dumb, and, like, who cares? Like, if it didn't work out, it didn't work out or let that keep growing, the momentum and stuff no matter how many dates it goes. And it shouldn't be a lot if you really want that.
Then that's part of the growing connection, and, you know, whatever happens to between two consenting adults. But, yes, Ryan, it looks like there's a trend of people asking to split the date just to split the bill because, they're not gonna sleep with them. Yep. And I'll show a few examples of that from this one. This is a yard house.
Safe. Actually, I'll buy the food and stuff. If you don't mind, just I'll split this off. If you just wanna take care of your drinks, like, I'll buy our bajevas and the triple dippers. Do you wanna do, like, apple pie or Yeah.
And just tap. Oh, it's the Chili's. You can just tap. You can just tap. So I have to pay for my own food?
Yeah. Do you wanna come over or no? No. So no. I'm not paying for you.
So you want me to sell you? Yeah. Unless you wanna come home with me. Wild. That doesn't even look that expensive.
Here's another one. Dating recently. I think it's just a rant that I found, but I'm gonna play it anyways. It's just been so hard, like, dating recently because when a high value man like myself comes into the fray, like, I just have I don't know. All these women are just like, what do you do for me?
What what value do you add to my life? I don't get it. I mean, this is our first date. I thought we were going to get, like, pizza or something. Right?
How do we do that? There's a completely fine kitchen in my apartment. You should come cook. Yeah. That's what you're supposed to do.
I To cook. You seem to cook. I don't really like cooking that much. Yeah. Of course.
Can't do it. I mean, look at you. What? Yeah. You don't look like you can cook.
You don't look like you can clean. I don't even know what you're doing in my car right now. You're for the street. That's not right. That I I have to I have to hope that that was fake.
I don't know. According to crybaby pixie, let's see. I have a reaction video regard let me see. But I could look at her profile, see if there's, like, a reaction or this is a skit. Yeah.
But, yeah, just like because First of all, those meals didn't look that expensive. You'd be surprised. They're some big ego maniacs, bro. I phrase. How often do men say that to you, Allison?
Almost probably eight, nine out of 10 times. Holy shit. In high value mail, they call themselves a high value mail? And they'll say, like they'll be like, well, I have I bring all this to the table, so what are you gonna do for me? Like, it's it's weird.
Okay. Or alpha male is a big one. That's, like, maybe, like, marginally better. Maybe. I I think it's probably the same, but high value male is is a lot there.
Yeah. Oh. Guys, like, schedule dates, like, out to restaurants before, and then they'll be like, well, I don't really wanna go out, so can we cook at my apartment? And then I used to think that was cringe. I used to think that was cute because I'm like, oh, he wants to cook for me, but then we don't end up cooking.
Like, I I've tried it before. Like, we don't end up cooking. We end up ordering food in, and then he just wants to, like, hit it and quit it type of thing. Yeah. Yeah.
That's Like, it It's so dumb. Like, that's not expensive. That's why, also, if you don't wanna spend a lot of money, that's why just drinks or just a type of dessert or just an ice cream in the summer. Like, you could still have that effect. Right?
And still talk, but if you're not comfortable spending a lot on a dinner, I completely get it. We've talked about how people do use other people for dinners and lunches as well. I mean, that guy at that looked like a a sweet cream. What was he gonna spend? $25 the most?
And that was still too much? Like, it's it's it's upsetting, and it's sad. And you have to get to know somebody. You have to let that grow. I mean, how good sex can you have unless you are right away agreeing that this is a physical relationship.
And but if you really wanna establish a connection instead, you know, which is also okay, which obviously either all these options are okay with communication and consent, but the idea that you just are gonna hop in bed like that, it's just it's just it's just gross. It's just doesn't make sense. And and it's just this world's dangerous now, so you don't know who who's who. Well, that's what I was just gonna say. It is sad and scary, the fact that I can relate to this so much, but I have had experiences on first dates where the man feels entitled.
And I've been, like, trigger warning, but I have been, like, assaulted on dates because men do feel entitled to sleep with you or do whatever with you because, oh, they maybe bought you dinner. And it's super disgusting and it's super sad, but sadly, that's how it is nowadays. And we obviously saw that in the skits or videos, whatever they were, but it is very prevalent. And I can say I've definitely experienced a lot of negative, situations such as that, sadly. I'm sorry about that.
It's just This is like it has to be like wagering. I'm going to spend this much money whether I am successful or not. At least that's how I I look at it. I'm paying the money off. Fine, but, like, you should and I would be fine.
Like Oh, yeah. Yeah. You don't but you do not to me, it's more about, like, the principle. Like, it's like you feel like you can buy me or you can buy something from offense. I'm not I'm not a sex worker, which I totally support, by the way.
I'm not a prostitute. I'm not working in the corner. I'm not doing anything where you should feel the need to pay me and, like, oh, you buy me something, and then I'm supposed to give you, like, sex in return. That's, like, that's crazy. Like Exactly.
Just unreal. Where's the high value? Where's the high value in that people guys who would say that we have to pay for sex? Where is your high value man where you're literally expecting that all you need to do to hop into bed with somebody is buy them freaking Chipotle bowl? Are you absolutely kidding me?
And then when the answer is no, instead of being an alpha and keeping your ground, holding your own, and buying the food, proving that you are, in fact, high value in an alpha, you throw a temper tantrum. You get all petty and you would say, well, then you're paying for yours, and I'm paying for mine. That's not high value man. That's not even a low value boy. That's a toddler.
That's toddler behavior. Just to I it's every time I hear women talk about their dating experience, it pisses me off because the guy and I'm saying this, and this is horrible. I feel like most guys don't realize they suck this bad. And it's I've get it. I've I've said it a million times.
It's because the way we do dating is just messed up and it's broken. But, obviously, this is not in relation to assault. I think anybody, regardless of when they started dating or how they started dating, should probably be well aware that assault's illegal. But when you hear these people talk and the way they treat women, it just I don't understand. Like, they don't have moms or sisters or nobody.
That that never once they've never met a woman in their life that they weren't trying to sleep with, that they would want to have someone else respect. That only women that they've ever known or people that they've wanted to sleep with, that to me if that's true, if you've never had a single woman in your life you care about, you're a sociopath. You're literally a waste. And you're not a waste. No one's a waste.
No human is a waste. I think all these people are inherently a gift in different ways, but you're wasting your gift almost certainly if that's how you've decided to view your your neighbors just because of their gender. I I don't know. I I don't like I don't like this at all. I was gonna ask, did that first person actually say it was because he didn't get any, or did he was he just splitting the check because he wanted to split the check?
Because he was willing to buy I think I think he was just splitting the check to Yeah. Because he was willing to buy the fajitas. Yeah. Because he was so sad. I think he was just trying to be like, oh, let's split the check, which that is hard.
It is hard, and I get that. Like, because some people do just wanna split the check. Be like, yeah. Well, you know, we both went to dinner. We don't know each other, but I had a good time.
Let's split the check. And it is hard for a guy to bring that up, I do think. And I'm sympathetic to that. And I'm sympathetic because he just got, you know, lumped in with high value man speech over here and come back to my place or you buy your own Chipotle bowl. You know what I mean?
Like, poor guy. He just wanted to be fair. But, anyway, that was what I was gonna ask. And then, unfortunately, Allison let me let us all know about how freaking horrible it is to date some of these guys out here. And that was what I it it lost track of my ability to say that.
But, also, if you have to keep telling people you're an alpha, you're not an alpha. You have to keep saying I'm high value, you don't value yourself, and maybe it's for good reason. I don't know. But that's for you to sort with your, you know, priest or your therapist or, I don't know, somebody else. But, yeah.
No. If you have to repeat it to people, you aren't that. You're pretending. You're getting into character, and it it's obvious. It you'll you'll never you'll never trick anybody.
I promise you. Some people some some guys think you can. If you even talk to some of those guys, I think, you you can't. You'll never trick you'll never trick them. They don't trick anybody.
Yeah. What? We'll say this sad. Like, when I was when I first came to New York and was, like, dating a little bit, I did feel not in entitled is not the right word. I felt kind of in a way forced.
Like, just because I am, like, a huge people pleaser. Like, if a guy bought me dinner and was so adamant about me coming to this place, like, I kinda felt, like, guilty in a way. Like, that was just kinda, like, the people pleaser in me. Like, okay. Person, like, did take me to dinner, and they did give me their time.
So maybe, like, I do go back to their place and, like, just kinda do what I gotta do, like, to not make this person upset, if that makes sense. But I've definitely, like, grown from that for sure. But I will say, like, I'm probably not the first nor the last person who probably has ever done something like that or felt like they need to do that, just because of, like, people pleasing tendencies and just, like, feeling kind of, like, guilty in a sense. Because I think we sometimes are made as women to feel guilty, and I think that's kinda, like, the point. And I do think that what you're saying is super, super important because, like and and the way you said it too.
Because notice, you didn't blame any of these guys for that decision. You they asked you to come back to their place, and you felt bad. So you did to do what you gotta do. Women should not feel like that's what they've got to do. Right?
That should never be like, well, he did buy me dinner. I guess I'll go back to his place and do what I gotta do. Like, I think any guy who hear who heard you or anyone else they know say that should feel bad that that is what how, like, any woman has had thinks about, you know, what their place is. You you should be going on a date because they wanna get to know you, not because they wanna get, you know, with you. But it wasn't the individual, and it's it's a societal problem, and it will take both groups of people to fix it.
It will take guys and women to fix that problem. And that is why when we decide that we hate women or all women are this or we hate men and all men are this, that's when it that society problem gets away scot free because we decided to blame individuals for a systemic problem about gender inequality and the way that the genders view themselves and each other. And so I think you hit the nail on the head there, Allison. Like, that's an important distinction. Like, yeah.
You're not the first and you're not the last, and it's horrible that anyone thinks that they would have to do that just for going on a date to get to know somebody. And it can be fixed, but everybody has to fix it together. It one group of people is not gonna be able to force the other group to do what they want on this particular shoot. It's gonna have to come as a unit, which is why guys need to have these conversations with women and, you know, stop being so damn afraid of talking to girls maybe. But, you know We'll get there one day.
I'm optimistic. I hope. I'm I'd I'd like to be optimistic, but it's hard sometimes. Very hard. I love it.
I love the, the discussion here. Great work. Now once the world goes past that, right, and once the world figures it out and Mhmm. When you are at a good place, once you get to know somebody and then you it is time to consent, right, and in terms of the act like you're having sex or whatever during that moment, there is one question that could enhance your experience. Oh, okay.
And I think this person this Gen z influencer made a good point, though, for recent times. So this is our is this true segment of this show? Okay. It was like, who's putting out music that you and another part of the reason everything sucks now is that there's no music to fuck to. Like, who's putting out music that you hear at a party and you just wanna grab the nearest person and just fucking jump their skin?
Sabrina Carpenter. I don't fucking think so. I'm not fucking Sabrina Carpenter. It's either, like, too experimental or it's too dry. It's just like there's no scooch to the music, you know.
It's there's nothing, like, fucky, you know. You don't wanna fuck to any of this. Really, what it needs to be is y'all need to start making music to fuck to, and then we need to fuck to it. We need to start fucking. Like, nobody's fucking.
I go outside. Y'all don't do anything. Y'all don't go outside. Y'all don't fuck. You don't fucking do anything.
Jesus. I think she's spot on. Ever since the weekend went more pop wasn't she? Ever since The Weeknd went more pop, I feel there really isn't that anymore. There's no Marvin Gaye's and Barry Weitz and Teddy Pendergrass and The Weeknd pre 2019.
She's spot on it. And I'm sure she's right. Audience, I can't Yeah. I can't think of any female. I'm sorry.
There maybe a little SZA. I'll give you that. Maybe a little SZA, but not even. I think SZA's music is to appear to to do that. But these people who specifically make make the making love to music, there's not a lot of them out there right now.
Well, making love is also I would say that's a specific I wanna say it's different. No. Obviously, it's making love. You know what I'm talking about, Allison. That No.
I I I know. Ash. I have a sex playlist. Alright. Yeah.
No. It's kinda what I'm saying. No recent no recent people, though, on that list. There there's, like, a few, but, like, not really. And, also, everybody's different too.
If you wanna Yeah. Yeah. Fuck to baby shark, be my guest. But for most people No. No.
Actually, that's that's inappropriate, I think. That's that feels that feels like it I'm just saying everybody's different, though, is the point. They're all I disagree with that. Not baby shark. That feels like there's the the furries out there.
I'm calling the police if you do that. But, I will say that there is also, like like, you mentioned who everyone that you mentioned in particular, Matt. Like, that's, you know, the making love with the passion. Not everybody is out there doing that right now. I mean, they are actually genuinely having less intimacy.
That's a fact studied and proven. Gen z is getting getting it on far less, and maybe it is the music selection. But, there are some people are you know, like, I feel like the experimental stuff and things like that, like, those are the things that kinda do make sense for, like, a party hookup. Right? You're at a party.
You hear whatever. Like, that play I don't know. I think it's hard to be like, everyone needs to listen to, like, a Barry, with Barry White or, you know, Marvin Gaye because that's like I feel like you have to like the person for that. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think you could do that with, like, a first time, unless you unless it's the first time with, like, you know, someone that you do like and you you wanna, you know, date them longer term, but, like, a hookup with with, you know, Marvin Gaye on That's where you don't put the music.
I don't put music on during those times. I don't think Oh, I know that. I'm just saying. Yeah. I personally don't think it's needed.
That flicks. Like, if you can fuck it. I don't. That that goes on pause when those Are you two different times? Yeah.
Are you two different times? Have, like, the message you've never had the message in the back where a show's playing where it's like, hey. Are you still there watching this and you're just casually fucking? I I turn it off at that point. But if that those times do happen, I let it rest.
Save the energy. But, yeah, this is a good opportunity for a new artist to come out like that. But I did like I did like this that person, though. That person is fun. She she she understood.
There's two parts. Yes. The artist needs to make the song, but then the people need to respond to the song correctly. Right? They all gotta get out there, put on their big boy and big girl pants, and go get intimate with each other.
So I like that person. I don't know your name, TikTok lady, but you made me smile, and I'm happy to have known you. Yo, Ryan, the guy who fights his followers. Oh, that dude? Guess what?
He made it to The United States. He made it to The United States. Let's see his most recent one in front of the Statue Of Liberty. Here we go. Guy who fights followers.
He's gonna end up in a gonna end up in a Marjorie Taylor Greene. That's when he's fighting my followers till I get knocked the fuck out. Today's competitor, Porta Douglas. I didn't Yep. Got her arrested for trespassing.
Told them that was I could've told them that was gonna happen. Yeah. You can't do it at the Statue Of Liberty, guys. They don't they don't even let people into that. If they pay, you can pay, and they still won't let you that close to the Statue Of Liberty.
Bam. Right? Oh. Who who won? I wanna know who won, though.
I think the guy It's hard to tell. The guy with the, the guy the American one. I've just I think the American one. That's right. Still undefeated.
So in world wars. That was that was world war. So I just really want to show really quick. There's these guys, the Johnson brothers. Right?
I love the content creators who are also filmmakers. And these the the this grew. Right? I guess they're friends or whatever, or maybe they're brothers. I don't know.
Is this Fenn in the other one? I don't know. Maybe. But you know what NPCs are? Non playable characters, video games.
They made a short film for non p for NPCs. Let me show you what I'm talking about. Imagine real life Sims right here. Hey, Sam. Are you having a good time?
I don't know. You ever play the Sims like this? Do you know where my friend is? I think he's in that room. This is almost like actually, I love that.
Mommy. You're PG when you've been your character and you, like, talk everybody to get missions and stuff. Jaden? Because he just got a mission to go into that, bro. Why does this keep happening?
I love how he's walking. Yeah. Why is this so inappropriate, Oh, hey, Sam. Come on here while you're voting. Hi, Sam.
You mad? You mad? Sam. Let me introduce you to everyone. Hey, everyone.
Meet my friend, Jamis. They also once did the we tennis players brilliantly. 30 love. That's great. That's funny.
But the bronze team wins. Oh, then? Pretty brilliant stuff. Right? I like that.
That's fun. Yeah. That's not who I thought it was either, so that's good to know. New people. Dude, absolutely brilliant.
And let me finish it off with the great Jonathan Kite. Do you remember him? He has he's probably the best impressionist he's put on so far. Only one today to finish this off as we head into our vacation, and we thank you for listening for the last five hundred and sixty five episodes. And we're just gonna take a quick break, take the week off, relax, get reenergized, and come back with the brand with brand new content as we start after July 4.
So, again, we are back on Tuesday, 07/08/2025 with a whole new slate of shows for tweet caps, sports tweet caps, Magic Mine, and other various productive conversations. And, yeah, I think this is a great way to see his newest impression. Let's see Jonathan Kite bring out the great David Attenborough, the kingdom of influencers narrated by David Attenborough. Dinosaurs roamed the Earth. But today, the dominant species has evolved to one with different survival skills.
Here, we'll explore their behaviors in their natural environment. Hiding in plain sight, all with one purpose, to get as many likes as possible. Welcome to the kingdom of influencers. Like the bumblebee, their swarms are attracted to flowers of every variety. The brighter, the better.
This is not use them for pollination purposes, but rather for posing purposes. Often Interesting. I wonder why he went with David. I I guess, obviously, because that's what he was practicing. Right?
Yes. He has to keep going. Traveling in groups which are categorized as prides, they are rarely disturbed by other creatures in the wild. The roles within the fight are interchangeable. Notice how they swap effortlessly between camera operator and model.
Resourceful in nature, they use everything in their surroundings to check their appearance. Like the Like the black widow, occasionally, harmless victims are sucked into their webs. Oh, we're going. Another great way to comment on society. Allison and Ryan, great work as always.
Thank you for the greatest fans listening to the world as always. And, again, we'll be back here on Tuesday, July 7. Have a great fourth of July. Stay cool out there, and we'll see you all very soon.