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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. Perhaps you've seen a video that's going massively viral by a former Green Berets guy named Ivan Rakelin, who I've actually had on the show before talking about Trump speaker and a few other things related to our our government and the corruption behind it. So this video that's going viral, which I'm gonna play for you before the interview, is pretty, pretty insane. He basically lays out this plan for the people, for We the People, for our sheriffs to be deputizing people, ex military people that got pushed out of the military for not taking the jab, etcetera, to enact a plan to start going after the deep state on the ground level.
Seth Holehouse:And he's not just an idea guy that has these fanciful ideas. Like, this guy's actually involved in these kinds of operations. He's in touch with very high level politicians, high level, you know, state level attorney generals, etcetera. So he's he's serious about this. So the video you're gonna see, this interview that you're gonna be watching right now was actually he had a Twitter space last night.
Seth Holehouse:So, you know, before this video was published. So he had a live Twitter space, Twitter video where we took, you know, some q and a's from the the audience. So you're watching what was already recorded, but it's no less relevant. It's actually an incredible interview. We dive into some really, really important topics about how we can, honestly, how we can save our country from this death grip of the deep state.
Seth Holehouse:So we're gonna play a video from it. It's about twenty minute video that he made that went viral. We're gonna play it for you after this introduction, and then we'll jump right into the interview with Ivan Rakeland.
Speaker 2:I just I guess I just, like, I didn't know I didn't know who would be here, but can I just ask if what brought you here today, why you decided to come here?
Speaker 3:What's your name and what organization are you with?
Speaker 2:Zoe Chase.
Speaker 3:Zoe Chase?
Speaker 2:Mhmm. And the show is called This American Life. It's a radio show.
Speaker 3:And what radio program is it on?
Speaker 2:It's its own show. It airs all over
Speaker 3:the country. Sponsors it? Is it on what program?
Speaker 2:It's a for profit company. It's its own independent company. It airs on public radio stations.
Speaker 3:They buy it. NPR?
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's on public radio, but it's on NPR program.
Speaker 3:It's its own company. So what is your quest you talked to me before?
Speaker 2:Yeah. We met. I mean, it was, like, two
Speaker 3:weeks ago. Yeah. Which reawaken?
Speaker 2:It was the first one I went to was in Nashville.
Speaker 3:Nashville?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure if I was in Nashville, and that was not the first one.
Speaker 2:No. It was my first one. Okay.
Speaker 3:It wasn't
Speaker 2:the first one, but there was, like, a hotel meet and greet afterwards with flyover.
Speaker 3:Based out of where?
Speaker 2:New York.
Speaker 3:What brings you down here when you have that trial up there that you should be focused on?
Seth Holehouse:The trial.
Speaker 2:It's not my job.
Speaker 3:How do they allocate that? Well Wait. Do you get tasked to come down here?
Speaker 2:Not really. I gotta get to make my own choices, but our show is like a documentary show more. It's like a magazine.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:And so we don't do breaking news.
Speaker 3:So Do you wanna do a sit down long form interview with me?
Speaker 2:Well, actually, I was just gonna ask you kinda, like, what brought you here, like, why you were here and what you made of it. But we
Speaker 3:could I'll put a post up about
Speaker 2:it Uh-huh.
Speaker 3:With that question. On And then you can follow that on x Okay. Telegram Yeah. Truth Mhmm. Getter, my Rumble channel Right.
Speaker 3:And all the other ones. And I can provide you that.
Speaker 2:I I just followed you on Twitter.
Speaker 3:Sounds like K. Which one? Ivan Raquen?
Seth Holehouse:Yes.
Speaker 3:Okay. Yeah. Because the other one's still censored by Brian Alton at the FBI.
Speaker 4:We're not letting people in until 01:50. So if you're for the the anti
Speaker 3:Semitic K.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Okay. So my Raequin account is still being censored by the FBI's Brian Autin, Laura Demlow, Joe Pienka, and Elvis Chan. Woah.
Speaker 2:So you started a new account?
Speaker 3:No. That still exists because it was reinstated. Those are the individuals that are at the FBI that run the censorship industrial complex on behalf of this illegitimate regime. Do you know those names? No.
Speaker 3:I didn't provide you much detail on. They were the ones also involved in the original illegal crossfire hurricane spying operation on General Flynn, Carter Page, George Bobanopoulos, and Paul Manafort. Have receipts on every single individual. That's why they haven't really come after me yet because if they bring me in, the entire regime comes crumbling down. Woah.
Speaker 3:K? Exactly. They are scared of me, not the other way around.
Speaker 2:That makes more sense. You on your Twitter bio, I noticed today it said secretary of retribution.
Speaker 3:Yep. I will wondered what that meant. Yeah. That means that I will guarantee consequences for a list of at least 350 individuals that are on my deep state target list. Okay.
Speaker 3:And when you read that deep state target list, remember, I'm an attorney and a retired Green Beret. Okay? Then I know.
Speaker 2:Well, meet that, I might be interested in talking with you more about is your deep state target list if you have time.
Speaker 3:Elon Musk has it. Michael Schallenberger has it. Matt Taibi has it. Mhmm. The judiciary committee has it.
Speaker 3:The weaponization committee has it. The oversight subcommittee that is part of the house administration committee has it. Mhmm. The house freedom caucus has it. The speaker of the house, Mike Johnson, likely has it.
Speaker 3:And it's just a matter of time for a joint press conference to take place between speaker Johnson and Elon Musk to go ahead and disclose and release the Twitter direct messages of those individuals on my deep state target list proving the seditious conspiracy going back to 2016 Mhmm. The illegal spying operation on the Trump campaign. You're also gonna find the involvement of Mike Pence and his chief of staff Joshua Pitcock in that conspiracy along with Josh Pitcock's wife, Katherine Seaman, who was the senior Russia analyst for Peter Strzok, who was one of the two individuals that was deployed by Jim Comey and Andrew McCabe to get to get general Flynn to lie or to get him fired as per Bill Prestop's notes, which was the deputy assistant director of counterintelligence at the at the FBI. That's a long list. I can go in much more detail, but that's generally the crux of it.
Speaker 2:Do you, like, do you get to meet with Jim Jordan and talk about this stuff?
Speaker 3:I meet with everybody.
Speaker 2:All all these guys?
Speaker 3:Every single member that you think I talk to or may talk to, I talk to them.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. And what do you guys talk about? Like, what's the reason that you talk
Speaker 4:to them?
Speaker 3:Everything that I put out publicly Yeah. I also provide that to them. Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:And I guess
Speaker 3:I don't do anything behind the behind the sheet, like Yeah. Behind closed doors. Everything
Speaker 2:is transparent. Hoping to get out of talking to them? Like, why
Speaker 3:you do it? I want to guarantee Elon Musk discloses the direct messages for the mother of all Twitter files so that the entire country can see what just occurred to them from starting from the illegal spying operation Mhmm. The corrupt DOJ and FBI. The raid on Mar A Lago was to seize the evidence that was declassified by Donald Trump in the last few hours of his first term, which involved the crossfire hurricane details Okay. Which would list all the names that I've mentioned so far.
Speaker 3:Okay. Whether it was Lisa Page, who was Andy McCabe's chief counsel at the time, along with Peter Strzok, a by a guy by the name of Joseph Piantka the third, who is currently the number three individual at the San Francisco field office. So you have a chief you have the special agent in charge. You have a ASAC, assistant special agents in charge, and then you have the ASAC for counterintelligence.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:That guy is a guy by the name of Joseph Piantica the third, who was the second agent that was deployed to interview general Flynn on 01/24/2017 in order to get general Flynn fired or to get him to lie. Right. That was an entrapment, and that's the same agent that was deployed in August of twenty sixteen to the Trump campaign to do what they call a counterintelligence briefing, a defensive one
Seth Holehouse:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:But with the secondary purpose in order to and this was him, Pietka, along with Trump, Chris Christie. You know that Chris Christie's attorney during his Bridgegate scandal was Christopher Wray?
Speaker 2:I didn't know that.
Speaker 3:Well, now you know. And then the third person in that meeting was a guy by the name of General Flynn. Joe Pientka was deployed by the Crossfire Hurricane leadership, authorized by the general counsel at the time, Jim Baker, who then later became the Twitter one point o number two lawyer to coordinate the censorship industrial complex to cover up and censor and suspend those individuals that exposed their corruption. K? And it just keeps mounting and mounting and mounting the cover ups.
Speaker 3:This is just yet a they're trying to take out Trump now because they were able to take out their first existential threat, which was general Flint, because he would have been the first one to go ahead and expose this level of corruption Mhmm. Because he knows the system. Now that Trump knows the system after being four years in it, he is now an existential threat to that very DOJ, the national security apparatus. Remember, 39 individuals unmasked general Flynn. K?
Speaker 3:One of them was Jamie Raskin's wife, Sarah Raskin. Totally unlawful on unmasking. Look look that up.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:The 51 individuals that said the Biden laptop had all the earmarks of a Russian information campaign
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Where your colleague colleagues over at FOLitico published that on their website. Mhmm. One of those 51 individuals is John Brennan. Another one is a guy by the name of David Buckley. David Buckley ended up becoming the staff director for Liz Cheney's and Benny Thompson and Nancy Pelosi's January sixth cover up committee.
Speaker 2:So it's pretty small world, it sounds like.
Speaker 3:So David Buckley was tasked to create a list and do his deep state target list Mhmm. Of political targets. So now it's my turn. Mhmm. I have a deep state target list, and I'm coming for all of them.
Speaker 3:And what does that mean when I say coming for all of them? It means the most legal, moral, and ethical consequences to the maximum to include the maximum punishment for treason. We're going to I personally guarantee that they're gonna face those consequences. And you can take a look at that list.
Speaker 2:Like, are you gonna sue them? Is that what you
Speaker 3:would do? Just wait for it.
Seth Holehouse:Okay.
Speaker 3:You will see it. It will be so visible Mhmm. For the entire world to see and hear. I'll give you some examples.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I'm going to incorporate the precedence that's already been set. So we're gonna incorporate what was done to general Flynn. We're gonna incorporate what was done to Steve Bannon, what was done to Peter Navarro, what was done to Mike Lindell, what was done to Scott Perry. Translation, expect to see livestream swatting raids of every single individual on that deep state target list because the precedence has already been set. And with that Remember when Mike Lindell in the Hardee's parking lot, the FBI went and conducted armed robbery of him in Minnesota?
Speaker 3:Remember when Peter Navarro was swatted in an airport? Remember when Steve Bannon, on multiple occasions within the US Capitol Police jurisdictional zone conducted swattings and allowed for swattings to take place of Steve Bannon and his residence? Remember the armed robbery and burglary of Roger Stone that was livestreamed by your colleagues over at Criminal News Network. Yeah. That we're going to take in the collective and do that.
Speaker 3:Okay?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:It does not matter what happens in the election. It does not matter who wins the election. This is going to take place at the hands of the American people with or without an election and with or without whoever wins the election. I guarantee you that that will take place at the county and state level because right now, the federal government is not in a position because of its capture and its corruption. So imagine this.
Speaker 3:When you take a look at the direct messages Mhmm. And the geotagged location data of the 350 plus members on that deep state target list, and then you curate that Elon Musk, and then do geotagging of the communications, And then you present those communications to name the county of the 3,143 county and county equivalents in our nation. Mhmm. The 50 states and the six federal districts. Right?
Speaker 2:K.
Speaker 3:And then you identify where a treasonous communication took place, and then you present that to the local DA similar to good old Alvin Bragg. That then will create the nexus to showcase this criminal conspirator seditious conspiracy and treason charge, and that local DA, the local sheriff, will then be deputizing folks like Ivan Raekeland and those of us that were thrown out of the military because we did not comply with the illegal DNA mutilation injection, the forced DNA mutilation injection.
Speaker 2:To the COVID vaccine?
Speaker 3:You're I'm talking about the CCP nineteen lab incident money making scheme by Pfizer, the Pfizer fail, the murder mutilation, or whether it was just the myocarditis making, heart exploding J and J jab. So those of us that were either thrown out or left because we would not participate in the DNA mutilation of our own physiological beings, there's 80,000 of us that are ready, willing, and able in order to be deputized by appropriate sheriffs throughout the country to be participator participants as lawful deputies to conduct the livestream swatting raids of every single person that we can identify that conducted the necessary unlawful activity by county on my deep state target list.
Speaker 2:Two questions. Where did you get the 80,000 number? My first question.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So 8,600, about 8,500 approximately, were thrown out of the military.
Speaker 2:K. K? Because they wouldn't do the vaccine.
Speaker 3:Because it wasn't a vaccine. The name of vaccine, the definition changed before the rollout, and it was never approved by the FDA. There was never a product that was approved by the FDA to then be able to coerce and manipulate into other people's bodies. Don't believe me? Look at the footnote on FDA's own, quote, unquote, approval of Pfizer's CoMERNITY.
Speaker 3:Legally distinct, and the product was never created. The the Pfizer BioNTech was created, but that one was never approved. That was only under emergency use authorization. So I need to correct you on that one. You need to do some more studying, ma'am.
Speaker 3:Okay?
Speaker 2:I hear you.
Speaker 3:Next, 80,000. Mhmm. K? As far as the 80,000 goes, that's the minimum that I see of folks that left the military early through retirement, ended ended their careers early because of the illegal mandate that was promulgated by and enforced by the entire chain of command. Those are also going to be many of the members on the deep state target list are those military leaders, quote, unquote, leaders.
Speaker 3:I call them failures within the Department of Defense and at the Pentagon that will face similar consequences for forcing and coercing unlawfully the mutilation of another person's body and thus minimizing and destroying our personal readiness within the DOD. Twenty twenty people you're talking about? Come on. Are you gonna ask that question in that level of ignorance? 2016, Crossfire Hurricane?
Speaker 4:No. No. No. No. No.
Speaker 4:I'm not even
Speaker 2:saying the 80,000 that you referenced.
Speaker 3:At this point, you're wasting my time if you don't even have that level of context. Take a couple hundred hours to research the subject. Follow my work on Rumble. Once you see that, I want you to identify one thing that I have incorrect, and then you can start coming after me with questions to scrutinize it because you have not done the necessary requisite research to for me to even give you my time. So I think that's about it.
Speaker 2:Can ask one last question? You don't have to
Speaker 3:It better be intelligent.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't guess that'll be in the eye of the beholder. You don't think you were saying it doesn't matter what happens in the election. So you don't think you need sort of the protection of Trump's justice department to do some of what you're talking about?
Speaker 3:No. Because we're going after the justice department. But, like They are the enemy. That's what you fail to understand. The individuals that I mentioned are the enemy of our constitutional order.
Speaker 3:We're coming for them maximally. And how we're coming for them is because we are engaging with counties and states in order to crush them.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. With via vis a vis, like, via the sheriffs, basically.
Speaker 3:What do you think Alvin Bragg's doing right now? Is that a federal officer? No. Exactly my point. Look at the counties in this country that are red versus blue.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. It is overwhelmingly red. So Alvin Bragg and the Dems are setting our precedent as we go on offense.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well, thanks, Ivan.
Speaker 3:It's gonna be a doozy, and I love it when it gets spicy. And there are again I believe you. Out of the 80,000 of us Mhmm. We are clamoring to be deputized by sheriffs nationwide in order to conduct the necessary livestream raids if they wanna push us to that.
Speaker 2:So if I did wanna follow-up with you, and
Speaker 3:you And I'll say lastly.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:There are over 1,000,000 service members. I'm a say this. I well, you said secretary of retribution. The secretary of retribution consists of three divisions. Number one, the research arm.
Speaker 3:And should there be a mechanism where we create it, it's going to be the first division is again, everything I'm telling you, I have already said it publicly, and I've you know, I have many podcasts where I've said this.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So number one, we're gonna have a research arm to continue to develop our targets. Okay?
Speaker 2:K.
Speaker 3:Number two, and and that's gonna be staffed by January 6 defendants, family members, as well as their lawyers since they have already kinda conducted some of that research.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:So they're already kind of interned, if you will, over the last three and a half years.
Seth Holehouse:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Number two will be the second division, which will include the action arm. The 80,000 of us that have decades of conducting this type of activity of actioning targets overseas. Right? Mhmm. And the third arm is going to consist of those that will livestream.
Speaker 3:Right? Independent media, obviously, not your organization. Won't be included in that.
Speaker 2:But we don't
Speaker 3:But they will ride along. They will ride along and livestream the swaddings and raids of the second division that I just mentioned that are properly and appropriately deputized to conduct those raids. And then the first arm is obviously gonna be the ones that create those lists. We're just using the playbook and the precedent that has already been developed to target those that conducted lawful First Amendment activity on January 6 and everything downstream from that.
Speaker 2:So if you say you don't need know, you're not waiting for Trump's election, like, when are you planning to do it?
Speaker 3:Standby. Okay. Just keep an eye on things.
Speaker 2:Okay. So how could I follow-up
Speaker 3:with you? So you can follow everything I do online. Everything's public. But, like, if I'm to ask you question. I advocate for the most these people are going to experience the most peaceful and patriotic, lawful, moral, and ethical experience of their life.
Speaker 2:The swatting in the reading sounds scarier than lawful and ethical and peaceful.
Speaker 3:It's legal, moral, ethical. I said it was peaceful and patriotic. It may not be peaceful for them, but for me, it'll be peaceful. Okay.
Speaker 2:So but if I message you on Twitter or something, that maybe ask your questions?
Speaker 3:Publicly. You can comment on me on my posts publicly. Okay. And I'm gonna post this. Okay.
Speaker 3:Again, your name? Zoe Chiefs. Okay.
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Seth Holehouse:If you're here watching right now, you probably saw a very viral video of Ivan Rakeland, a former Green Beret, and someone who is really taking it to the deep state. And he laid out this plan, which is pretty amazing, basically deputizing citizens and going after the deep state at the local and state level, which really reflects a lot of what Gerald Flynn's been talking about. Right? Local action, national impact. And so he's here live with us right now.
Seth Holehouse:We're gonna be doing a live q and a. So, folks, if you're on Twitter, x, put your questions into the chat, and I will do my best to get to them. And, you know, depends on how much time Ivan has, but we're great to have him here. So, Ivan, man, it is good to have you here. Thank you so much for joining on such quick notice.
Seth Holehouse:You are the the new viral star of Twitter today, so thanks for being here, man.
Speaker 4:Hey, Seth. Thanks for having me. I always like this remember they say, like, it takes ten thousand hours to make your break. I think mine took twenty to thirty thousand hours because I have done that much amount of research into the deep state by name, date, place, transgression over the course of the last ten years. I mean, that's not only research.
Speaker 4:That's just living through, being in places where I could see it all fester. And it all started back in 2014 when, I guess, I was a maybe a senior captain on the Ukraine crisis team in the Pentagon as John Brennan conducted his coup in Ukraine as he then deployed the failed vice president Biden over to Ukraine to then inform Petro Poroshenko that the best way forward for Ukraine was to hire his son due to his spectacular olfactory senses that he learned from sniffing cocaine and smoking crack to identify new natural gas and natural, I guess, fields out in the hinterlands of Ukraine so that in the to the tune of a million dollars, Hunter could collect money on his hookers and blow while, well, the rest is pretty much history and has been exposed years later.
Seth Holehouse:This is Where
Speaker 4:do you start, bro?
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. So okay. So let's just I've got a couple of questions that that I wanna get to, and then we've got a lot of people that are watching, and I'm sure we have a lot of questions coming in. So for all the folks that are watching on Twitter, a, make sure you're following both myself and Ivan. Right?
Seth Holehouse:You'll you'll see our, obviously, our profiles there. Make sure you're following both of us with notifications turned on, make sure you're live in the chat, because that's where we're gonna be looking for the questions. So, I'm not gonna go through and show the whole twenty minute video. So we're you know, this is for people that have already seen the video. And if you haven't, then watch it afterwards.
Seth Holehouse:But you basically laid out this plan for bringing down the deep state and these deep state actors, which you have this deep state target list as you referred to it with hundreds of people that were especially, you know, very involved in, you know, persecuting Trump, general Flynn, a lot of the people that were trying to fight for this nation. And but your plan really goes into the details of deputizing citizens. So doing this at that that local and state level. And now the woman you're talking to, the journalist go ahead.
Speaker 4:Uh-huh. I could set the stage real
Seth Holehouse:quick. Please do. Yes. Please I
Speaker 4:wanna make sure that all of the listeners, viewers are kind of on the same sheet before I go into that. I want for us to contextualize this. So just like in regular law enforcement rules and regulations, I think Elon Musk recently tweeted out, make crimes illegal again, right? So using that framework, when you have rules such as the constitution in place, you have statutes in place, right, and you have all that in place, you would expect that those in positions of power should also follow those rules. Well, when they don't, particularly in this instance, when the federal government refuses to follow its own rule book, who is going to be the ones to enforce it when the system is completely in an escalatory fashion rotting and corrupting itself further along over the last, particularly ten years that I've personally witnessed as a first or second row seat to this.
Speaker 4:It comes down, you have to go back to your constitution, the rule book. The states are the entity in our constitutional republic that created the federal government. I'm talking about Congress was created. The executive branch was created. The federal courts were created because three quarters of our state legislatures allowed them to be created.
Speaker 4:So who has the higher authority? The states, particularly the state legislatures. So when you look at state law and you look at the grant of authority to the attorney general of a state or to its sheriffs or equivalents across the 3,143 counties, well, you look state by state and you determine whether or not what sheriff has what authority. And then you look at what are the state statutes that potentially could have been violated by the known enemy within our federal government. And that goes for executive branch, legislative branch, and federal judges.
Speaker 4:Yeah. I'm looking at you, judge Sullivan. I'm not sure if you live in Virginia or Maryland. Well, let's just say judge Sullivan happened to travel through, I don't know, the state of Texas, maybe a county where there's a constitutional sheriff in Texas because judge Sullivan happened to travel, oh, I don't know, on vacation or visit family or friends. What if, for example, judge Sullivan has a Twitter account not in his own name, but it is his Twitter account.
Speaker 4:And let's just say in that Twitter account, he happened to direct message Eric Holder or Jim Comey or Rod Rosenstein or Peter Strzok or Judge Contreras or you name the judge, executive branch, FBI actor, DOJ, National Security Division actor. I mean, I'm not going to go through the list of it. Just then expand that and then apply it to my 350 plus member deep state target list to see what communications were had. Now take that one step further and determine, oh, wait, That message includes seditious conspiratorial evidence to be able to convict this scumbag and then loop in under a RICO chart, under the RICO framework, the entire cabal. And then all the deputy all the sheriffs that need to do is look at the rule book.
Speaker 4:I got Elon Musk DMs. It proves, well, beyond reasonable suspicion, It allows the opening of an investigation. Right. Depending on the threshold we're looking at here. To get to beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 4:But before you get to beyond a reasonable doubt to prosecute someone. You have to first arrest them. The way you do that yet is you have the proper lawful necessary threshold met, right, burden of proof based on the jurisdiction, and then you deputize those people that you can deputize, sheriff, to then go ahead and in the interest of public transparency, why don't we go ahead and livestream it on x, Elon, as sheriffs deputize Ivan the Ivan Raekelins of the world, the 80,000 of us that were left early from the military due to the illegal jab mandate, the thousands, maybe tens of thousands of law enforcement throughout the country that were kicked out. Remember, job or jab? Everybody that has law enforcement, swatting, or global counterterrorism experience.
Speaker 4:Right? Just saying here. The train up in order to be deputized goes from months to hours. And then those hours can then be implemented because guess what? Those individuals thrown out due to the jab, I can guarantee you approximately a % of us would volunteer pro bono at no cost to that county sheriff's office to participate in being the first, second, third, fourth, whatever guy in the stack to perform a live stream raid for the entire world to see with audio, not like the CCTV footage at the US Capitol Police, where it's just video.
Speaker 4:I'm talking about I would be happy to put on body cam, a helmet cam, a shoulder cam, live stream an entire squad ride along of somebody. You name it. I want man in America live streaming every single raid that I participate in as we take down these former and current lawless federal actors so that we can bring it back to our regular normal constitutional order. And that in the collective I call castrate the deep state. They wanna come after our kids by castrating them.
Speaker 4:Guess what? It ain't gonna happen. The first person that's going to be castrated in that conversation is going to be those that are coming after my children. I could care less what happens to me as long as I can, at the end of the day, say, you know what? I am a man in America, and I'm coming for you for your lawless behavior.
Speaker 4:And if you wanna come after my kids, you just crossed the red line that your family is going to regret that you crossed.
Seth Holehouse:Well, thanks for laying that out for us, and I'll be the the first person to sign up to livestream. I got the technology down for that.
Speaker 4:I've gotten dozens of emails through my website, through my info at raekelin.com, through my Twitter DMs begging. They're like, where do I sign up? Hey. I'm old. I'm frail.
Speaker 4:I can't do the swaddings, but I wanna do the livestreaming, or I can do the research. I'm getting dozens of people reaching out.
Seth Holehouse:And actually, there's a in the chats, I got Guy Moreno who said, hey, Ivan, I just wanna let you know how I can support you or join your movement. I love my country. I have children. Communism is the last thing I ever want them to live in. So what's your answer to Guy then?
Seth Holehouse:How can people support and get behind what you're doing?
Speaker 4:Everything has phases. Right? Every operation has you gotta go step by step. The number one step that we have to do before anything else happens is that there has to be a maximal demand across the entire Internet. Or if you're if you're an employee of X, if you're an employee of Tesla, of SpaceX, or any other Elon Musk holdings, there needs and then also anybody that owns Elon Musk, Tucker, if you're listening in, you name the person.
Speaker 4:Right? He needs to be pleaded with to go ahead and consider looking at that deep state target list, taking what he's remember he was going to release the Fauci files and he has not? He needs to look at that deep state target list, review all the direct messages of all those accounts internally, review all the internal Twitter.com emails going back and forth with those individuals, review all of the internal Slack communications related to communicating with those people on that deep state target list. And by the way, some of those names on there have already been exposed due to the censorship industrial complex. But again, this 350 person list, that's my small list.
Speaker 4:I have a much broader list that we'll get to later. Let's start with the smaller one. Once he looks through those, I can with almost certainly certainty And tell you that he is going to find remember when he said Twitter is not a social media company, it's a crime scene. He can then take it to the next level. Now, here's the like, that's what needs to happen.
Speaker 4:And they're gonna come out. They're gonna try to come after him. Right? But I think with this Twitter files releases and now with some of the committees that are exposing some of this stuff, another angle of attack would be if Ken Paxton or name your beloved attorney general or name your respective county official that can subpoena Twitter, right, for particular specific information related to their county. Or if Jim Jordan or Jim Comer or Barry Loudermilk, and I say those names by design because they chair the appropriate committees to expose three of the major categories that are on my deep state target list to then subpoena x, formerly Twitter, for all of the DMs just like when they went and exposed Jim Jordan's text messages and Mark Meadows' text messages.
Speaker 4:Two can play the game, but we're gonna take it to the next level. We're gonna take the precedent that was set, as I mentioned in my video, just like when they swat remember when they did the live the the the livestream swatting raid, burg armed robbery burglary of Roger Stone. That's only one aspect of what we're going to be doing. The second aspect is, remember, we're gonna we might even we can't get you in the airports because that would be a federal function, right? Actually, you know what?
Speaker 4:Now that I think about it, no. Because the TSA covers the inside perimeter. On the outside, you have county or state officials or state subordinate kind of metro transit law enforcement entities that can go ahead and seize the Brian Autons of the world, the Joe Pienka, the Elvis Chan. I'm I'm just listing a few of the FBI officers that are still current FBI officers. Governors and attorneys general can say, you know what?
Speaker 4:Enough's enough. We're going to not only livestream raid those that we've identified that have been involved in the illegal first, fourth, fifth, tenth, you name the amendment, violators. Not only are we going to detain and hold them in captivity and then treat them accordingly. And if there's collateral damage, well, that's unfortunate, right? But we're also going to go ahead and expel them from our county.
Speaker 4:We're going to expel them from our state. So if speaker Mike Johnson is so compromised that he's not willing to defund these lawless institutions, the counties and states can go ahead and flick all of them like the boogers that they are.
Seth Holehouse:Great. Great analogy there. So one of the questions that I'm I'm seeing popping up and that I have as well is that okay. So we've got it makes sense to me to understand, especially from a constitutional perspective, how local sheriffs can work here with local attorneys, AGs, etcetera, even local to state level. And they could they could do this, but we know that the as you know, the especially when you get to the federal level, these agencies are so corrupted.
Seth Holehouse:So what's gonna stop let's just say there's a a a sheriff, constitutional sheriff that's gonna go arrest, you know, bad actor a in his local county. What's gonna stop the federal at the federal level then who's sending in either a military, FBI, CIA? What's that look like? Because this sounds great, but then what I am used to seeing happening is we try these things, and you see that consistently the federal that federal deep state entity snuffs out any of these efforts that are happening at the local and state level, unfortunately. So how how do you see that playing out?
Speaker 4:Great question. I thought through this. Here's where we're at. Think about this from the information and jury pool perspective. Okay?
Speaker 4:So the jury pool consists of Americans. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And the American jury pool and judges receive their information from the information that was manipulated and curated by our censorship industrial complex. When we expose who did that curated manipulation and coercion of information, that were the entities that caused, hey, judge, your sister, your brother, your daughter, your son, your cousin, guess what? The reason why they died from the clot shot was because this very FBI agent, Brian Autin, and his boss, Laura Demlow, coordinated with the field office in San Francisco, Elvis Chan, Joe Pienta, as they coordinated with the number two lawyer at Twitter, Jim Baker, to go ahead and make it look like this thing, this product was not only FDA approved, they told us, which it wasn't, but also that it was safe and effective and that you must take the jab. So when the judge and the jury pool sees the connecting of the dots that these individuals participated in a genocide of the America Of America, I think you're gonna start to see a different mindset of the broader public. So for those that were COVIDiots, right, that bought hook, line, and sinker into the manipulated, curated information that the censorship industrial complex information, they're going to transition from being enemies of ours to passengers slash bystanders slash observers.
Speaker 4:Like in a stadium, right, there's two teams, you have spectators. So rather than being on the other team that we have to address, we now with the with the Twitter dump, what it does is it educates the masses to then move from being anti America to, oh, I was duped, but I'm too embarrassed to admit that I was wrong. I'm just gonna sit back and relax and stay quiet. By them staying quiet, they are now in a neutral position. We do not have to address them.
Speaker 4:They will spectate as we, you, me, and other men in America, and women can participate as well because you know that you're a woman, and I know that I'm a man. Right? And we're gonna go ahead and action those targets on the deep state target list with the population being on our side. Those that weren't are just going to spectate. That's the whole purpose of this Twitter files dump.
Speaker 4:We have to get the psyche cleansed to know what just happened to them so that they can at least observe. And then we go ahead and have the the those that are on our side create the necessary public pressure campaign so that there are either sheriffs in place or those sheriffs that are weak are removed and replaced in the coming months so that those that are in positions of power as sheriffs can then immediately be like, oh, wait. Hey, Ivan. Wasn't there like a declaration of military accountability and hundreds of thousands of people signed on to that? Let's go ahead and use that list as our entry point where people live and let's match them up with the county where they can lawfully be deputized so that they can meet out retribution appropriately to those actors that have a jurisdictional hook component of lawlessness to that county.
Speaker 4:There you go. Does that answer the question?
Seth Holehouse:It does. It does. So considering that so much of this hinges on, I would say, sheriffs, constitutional sheriffs, and then whatever, say, AGs or, you know, kind of state local level attorneys that will get involved, Have you is there has there been any groundwork laid? Have you talked to any sheriffs? Is there are there any I know you don't wanna, you know, reveal your plans.
Seth Holehouse:I'm sure that, you know, we've got, like, you know, Adam Schiffs is watching a livestream. And so where is this at in terms of the on the ground action to get this going?
Speaker 4:Can I share with you a particular article that was written by a surrogate of the deep state that is scared that I'm talking to Elon Musk? That is scared that I've oh, I should say maybe talking to Elon Musk or that I may be talking to, the Trump campaign they're asking. Those were the questions that they came after me with. Oh, what's this deep state target list? Are you talking to the Trump campaign?
Speaker 4:Are you talking to Elon Musk? Let's just say I do talk to folks, and some of them include chairs of congress and the committees. Like I said in the video, I talk to everybody. Right? And so Michael Schellenberger, I provided him some information.
Speaker 4:Matt Taibi, I've provided him some information. Wait. Who are the authors of the Twitter files? Matt Taibi and Michael Schellenberger. So let me send you something.
Speaker 4:And the title of this thing, I don't know what to call it, the man behind the January 6, quote, Pence card memo is now pushing, quote, the mother of all Twitter files. And the author of that article is Hunter Walker, the coauthor of that he was the coauthor for the book, The Breach, written by Denver Riggleman, who was the technical adviser for the January 6 cover up committee. I'm referring to the Mike Pence, Liz Cheney, Nancy Pelosi, Benny Thompson, January sixth cover up, the Fedsurrection cover up committee. K? The Insurrection Promotion Committee slash Fedsurrection cover up committee.
Speaker 4:I'm a go ahead and send you this. Let's see here.
Seth Holehouse:If you since me on Twitter, I can pull it up.
Speaker 4:K. No problem. Yeah. And for those people like, well, release your Twitter DMs. I'd be more than glad to release my Twitter DMs as a tit for tat.
Speaker 4:Quid pro quo, baby. If I'll release mine, if you release the 350, I will gladly do that. It would be an honor. I got nothing to hide. Nothing whatsoever.
Speaker 4:Okay. So I just sent you that. It answers your question of
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Speaker 4:Yeah. If you pull up the article, and it looks like at the bottom of that, it incorporates a tweet. And I think it talks about how I asked a question when I went to it. There was a conference in Las Vegas. If you scroll down.
Speaker 4:Where I asked the question to the was it National Constitutional Sheriff's Association? And what was my question? Well, I'd have to take a look here and read it because I I can't recall what it is. Based on my memory, you can read it in the article. But bottom line is I asked the question to the effect of is there an appetite amongst the sheriffs?
Speaker 4:Like, would you be willing to go to the maximum if Elon Musk releases the Twitter DMs of a deep state target list that I've published and then can identify the communications that were done by county and then divvy it up to each county sheriff saying, hey, here's what I have and this is what it actually looks like there was a crime committed. Can you go ahead and address that? And would you be willing to deputize folks? So basically ask them the question, right? So, well, if this is out there marinating and this author is reaching out to Michael Schellenberger asking, hey.
Speaker 4:Is this in the in play? Is this deep state target list release in play? And they reach out to Matt Taibi about it. Well, at this point, whether or not I had communicated with them or not before, now they know that this is part of the national conversation. But I did.
Speaker 4:I mean, I I emailed them before, but I get you know, they probably get a lot of emails. I did get responses and Twitter DMs responses from them. It's kind of a forcing function by having this video go viral. The video goes viral primarily because last week, this this author, Hunter Walker, publishes this. And then this what's her name?
Speaker 4:From National Poison Radio approaches me after the weaponization committee hearing. Right? Zoe from National Poison Radio. And I have this exchange with her yesterday. And it's essentially my conversation recording it and publicizing it, and essentially, it's it's self actualizing.
Speaker 4:Right? If you understand what I mean. Because literally. This gave me a platform to explain to over, think it's almost 6,000,000 people at this point. What needs to be done to go ahead and address the deep state?
Seth Holehouse:I see. I'll throw a quick comment in with that is this that
Speaker 4:want it to happen.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. So so even the fact that that that video you've done has gone, you know, six close to 6,000,000 views at the time of this, That's making it manifest. Like, even that right there. Like, you you know, you could have the all the plan you want, but that right there is manifesting as it it's putting that thought into the public consciousness. As I'm watching the the chat going on, I'm seeing these people talking.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, what you're talking about is what people have been wanting to hear. They've been wanting to they they they're they're, like, looking for this because the people that understand where the country's at, they know how close we are to being communist China, Soviet Russia. Like, they know how close that is, and they want something to happen. But, you know, one question I do have, though, is as this relates to Elon Musk, I mean, does so much of this plan is it is it heavily reliant on Elon Musk, or is it something that can be carried out regardless of whether we have these these Twitter files? Because so it's the kind of somewhere saying, well, if Trump gets back into office, we can save our nation.
Seth Holehouse:Of course, it's a good thing, right, especially with the current administration, the current coup that happened. But when we place all of our hope on, well, if if the big billionaire person does something, then we can do it.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So Right? I'm if you looked at my career and my background, I don't wait on other people and nor do I ask for permission to do anything. I like to solve problems. So I mean, when I saw the problem of the illegal conducted illegally certified and election of twenty twenty, right, what was my idea in in play?
Speaker 4:I mean, I put out that memo known as Operation Pence card to remedy it and correct it. At that point in time, I wasn't being censored. Trump retweeted it, and that created a sequence of events where there was a there was a conversation and there was momentum going into January 6 for the House of Representatives to vote by state delegation guaranteeing a reelection of Trump because 27 states under that framework were Republican. But the thing is is that Nancy Pelosi blocked it with her incited and instigated fedsurrection. She was the she and the Capitol Police Board and Mitch McConnell were the ones that they're the ones that control the law enforcement component on the Capitol Grounds.
Speaker 4:They're the ones that are wholly responsible for what happened on January 6, and they actually deliberately and my invest and this is another three hour investigation, this kind of discussion that I've already put out. If you want the details of that, I did a three hour show just last week with Alfredo Luna on Alpha Warrior. For those that want a full deep dive with receipts, jurisdiction, the legal analysis of January 6 on how Pelosi conducted the coup and the cover up and how they continue to do the cover up, that's where you can find it. But I guess bottom line where I'm getting at is in in all all of our conversations, I want people to understand this. Everything goes back to the illegal spying on Trump in 2016.
Speaker 4:And when I say illegal spying on Trump, they had to spy on Trump to create leverage over him that they never had. And then when they saw that his most trusted adviser was the person that knew the system the best the most that it could expose all of them, meaning General Flynn, they had to do everything in their power to take him down and take him out. Well, sorry, folks. You messed with the wrong person. You messed with the wrong family, and you messed with the wrong ecosystem of individuals that he represents.
Speaker 4:Because, like, if if the Flynn family and some periphery folks were able to stalemate the trillionaire deep state, now it's our turn to go on absolute offense. And the way we go on offense is to remove the censorship that they've been able to survive under, which we have, educate the masses, which we are through the Flynn movie tour, and by extension, when during the Flynn movie tour, I'm giving a one hour briefing before the movie to the general admission folks of a timeline and link analysis of all these deep state actors by name, date, place, transgression. Every single one of them. And this deep state and it a lot of I'd say several categories of my deep state target list includes those that went after General Flynn. For example, the 39 individuals that unmasked General Flynn.
Speaker 4:One of them was failed vice president Biden. One of them was Jamie Raskin's wife, Sarah. Jamie Raskin was the lead impeachment hoax number two impeachment manager. Total coincidence, folks. Right?
Speaker 4:It is cover up after impending cover up that like, I don't know what what to tell you other than Seth. Like, I'm taking these guys to the mat. I could care less. They can if they try to threaten me, you only weaponize me stronger against you. There's two options.
Speaker 4:We either win or they will lose. There's no alternative.
Seth Holehouse:And you're not someone that has cheap talk. You're a green beret. You'd be at the head of these SWAT missions. But, you know, I I wanna
Speaker 4:my leg three times over three months or three months ago, and literally within days, I was back in there confronting these scum in person face to face, whether it's Millie, whether it's Austin, I could care less. Every time I show up, even in wheelchair, US Capitol Police comes up to me and says, hey. Austin's security detail is asking about you. Are you
Seth Holehouse:a
Speaker 4:threat? Guess what? I am a threat because I am exposing your massive amounts of corruption at scale to the entire nation, and you are seen by nobody as being legitimate nor credible. And thus, they don't have legitimate authority and power that anybody gives any credence to.
Seth Holehouse:So I wanna bring up a a question. This is Timothy Spink. He put a question in the chat, which remind people that when you put their questions in the chat, he says talk is cheap. Set up a timeline, let's roll. And so you bring up the issue of timeline.
Seth Holehouse:Right? You know, you mentioned in your interview with this reporter that when when you
Speaker 4:Let's set up a timeline. So he's relying on me to do a % of the work. He like it makes it easier for me if he shuts his mouth and moves that up moves aside as grown men take care of this, or he can be a grown man and step up and take the initiative to do what he can within his sphere of influence. He doesn't need to tell me what he's doing. He can just do it.
Speaker 4:And then if everybody does that, guess what? It makes my life easier because then I can focus more on making sure that Elon if he wants to join, he can help me convince Elon Musk to release the Twitter DMs. And then he's gonna respond with, these are the naysayer cowards of the world. The naysayers are always coming up with a reason to say no. Guess what?
Speaker 4:You can help me by just go in your basement and shut your mouth. Or you can be like, you know what? I'm gonna reach out to one person that I know, my one friend, and say, hey. Do you know anybody that knows Elon Musk? Or you can create your one little post so that the two people that follow you are also reading that.
Speaker 4:You don't have to cite me on anything. You just need to demand it. And then the more people that demand it, it comes to fruition. I'll tell you this. The three major ops, if you will, that I've been a part of, you can call it political.
Speaker 4:It's not political, constitutionally based. Number one, the operation Pence card. It was so close to that reelection. Nancy Pelosi had to do a fedsurrection to to stop that. Number two, remember the whole speaker Trump play?
Speaker 4:It we were fifth 16 and o against Kevin McCarthy and the Uni Party during that January vote. And then it was one in 16. Right? He ended up winning one of those votes. Why?
Speaker 4:Well, last minute, Donald Trump decided, you know what? Too risky. I don't wanna I don't wanna do that. But the offer was there. That took me dozens and dozens of podcasts, and I think I was on yours as well during that time frame as I was like, hey.
Speaker 4:How do we fix the is this child friendly, or can I use expletives on this show?
Seth Holehouse:You could say we're live on Twitter, so it's it's you know, if Elon Musk can come in here and censor us, and maybe he'll bring the Twitter file
Speaker 4:with this, man. I'm not ready to go p g 13. Although, I'm in that p g 13 space, and we'll we'll get to rated r in the next few weeks, and then we're gonna get to rated x in the next few months depending on how things play out. But I'll say this. Again, I'm a professional I retired as a Green Beret and an intelligence analyst and used to teach intelligence analysis.
Speaker 4:So then you look at the threat environment. You come up with their courses of action from most probable to dangerous to most dangerous. If you have time, you create different scenarios. And then you come up with ideas on how to counter that. So then the best case scenario to be able to castrate the deep state would have been a speaker Trump play.
Speaker 4:Because guess what? You can then defund everything going on right now would have never happened had Trump said, you know what? Alright. Let's go with it. Wor best worst case scenario, we would have basically had no speaker for this time frame.
Speaker 4:What would that have meant? No Ukraine funding. No, 10% for the big guy through the Ukraine funding. No Israel First. No Ukraine First.
Speaker 4:No China First voting going on. Right? But now I can only come up with the path and plan, and then I can only do so much to try to execute on that plan. And I I do more than most. I physically confront the members of congress.
Speaker 4:I text them. I email them. I brief them in person. I brief in person the leaders of our country, as you've seen throughout the last couple of years. At the end of the day, I can't make the decision for them.
Speaker 4:And if they don't take that decision, then I have to come up with other solutions seeing that they won't make the right decision. I have to figure out ways in which to be able to fix this constitutional disarray without their permission or without their involvement. And this is kind of what we've come to is this methodology, because we've already presented. Right now, Donald Trump is busy getting persecuted in New York. Right?
Speaker 4:So then you can't rely on him. He's he's he's being he's jammed up. So we gotta come up with our own solutions. And the beauty of this kind of position is that it doesn't matter who ends up being president. It doesn't matter if there's an election, like I said in the video.
Speaker 4:If if we can guarantee that all we need is one, Seth, you get 350 people. If we look at their entire travel patterns, identify one message that took place in one county where one sheriff and one state AG, say Texas or say Kansas or say Louisiana, that wants to have the intestinal fortitude to go ahead and get after it. And you know what I mean when I say get after it? That opens up the entire Pandora's box. As I said in my video, the precedent has been set.
Speaker 4:Alvin Bragg is a local little scum DA. K? And overwhelmingly, you need to put up the map. How many counties are red in this country versus how many counties are blue? We have by far the advantage.
Speaker 4:It's just a matter of the people that are listening in, that are watching, to have the courage to then say, hey, I know a sheriff. I'm going to talk to him tonight after I get off the show. I'm going to talk to him tomorrow. So as I'm rolling around with General Flynn, that is the biggest question. It's like, okay, you've identified all these scumbags by name, All of them.
Speaker 4:What can we do? And I say, who who here knows the sheriff?
Seth Holehouse:Save your whole DNA. We've got this guy, Michael, is is at Midway Missile in the chat. He's saying our sheriff is game. So it shows that that that people are already talking to the sheriffs. People are in touch with the sheriffs.
Seth Holehouse:And this is this is how it works. This this is the constitution. It's we, the people, taking action on the local level. The power comes from the bottom up.
Speaker 4:We're ready for phase two. If you have somebody ready, willing, and able, and clamoring for it as the gentleman mentioned. I'll say this. At this point in time, while Elon Musk has not released it yet, here's what we can do. If you're an elected official, state rep, state senator, sheriff, why don't you go ahead and make a public statement saying, hey.
Speaker 4:If any social media company to include this x has any information in their direct messages related to federal actors violating my citizens constitutional rights, namely their First Amendment, which has already been disclosed, by the way, there's been a disclosure of who's been censored. I want you, sheriff, to look at the list of people that Elon released on GitHub to determine which account represents a citizen in your own county to then be able to say, you know what? I'm coming after the federal actors that censored my constituent and their First Amendment right. You come through my county, expect a livestream swatting raid of you and whatever you're traveling in.
Seth Holehouse:That's it. That's it. Simple. So I wanna tell people for those who are joining us or have been here, a a few quick notes for them. One is I want you to tell people where they can contact you.
Seth Holehouse:This is important. So if people have what I see with what you're doing here is you're just coordinating. You're putting forth an idea. You know, you're not masterminding.
Speaker 4:You're just I'm gonna be I'm secretary of retribution.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, there you go. Okay.
Speaker 4:I just wanna be the secretary of retribution coordinating the national effort where we have three divisions, and it's this is a federated effort of people that want to action deep state targets that are represented by the most belligerent, illegitimate, corrupt federal government scum, previous and current, that need actioning, meaning consequences, meaning retribution, meaning accountability. Remember the declaration of military accountability? This is an extension of that. Some of the people on the list are a direct result from the names named in that declaration of military accountability. 20 of the the most senior generals within our Department of Defense that participated in forced coerced DNA mutilation and heart exploding, you know, maiming of service members to the point where 80,000 of us said, you know what?
Speaker 4:We're not going to participate in this. So the 80,000 of us can be the, let's just say, the the leadership element subordinate to these sheriffs deputized as we help guide and train those million plus that are angry and fuming for being coer now they're learning that they were coerced into something that their leaders did not have the lawful authority to coerce them into. I would say that 80 to 90% of current service members regret and despise their leadership for coercing them into those DNA mutilation products, and their families despise them for it, etcetera, etcetera. Let's focus on the first wave, which is the people that censored and, you know, through the cognitive manipulation, forced us into believing the safe and effective, and then we can go down that deep state target list. Remember, 39 I talked about.
Speaker 4:The 51 that said the Biden laptop had all the earmarks of a Russian info op. One of them was the guy that ended up being the staff director for Pelosi, Cheney, and Mike Pence's j six cover up committee. Oh, what a coincidence. While he was creating his little target list to come after everyone affiliated with their political opponent, he just gave me the precedent to do the same to you, punk. David Buckley is one of the top figures on my list.
Speaker 4:We're coming for him.
Seth Holehouse:So Boom Boom Manchini, a fun name, says give me contact info. I will get you every sheriff. So how can people contact
Speaker 4:You asked me how can they Yeah.
Seth Holehouse:That's okay.
Speaker 4:I got opened. I all my social media is open, folks. I don't hide. Well, some of these accounts that claim to have, you know, hundreds of thousands of followers, They know everything about Racine and all the bodies are buried. Not a single instance when that account you see the face of the individual of the account.
Speaker 4:You've never seen them do a livestream. You've never oh, and they hide behind. Oh, I don't you're doxxing me. Guess what, punk? I've been doxxed numerous times.
Speaker 4:If you're too afraid or too afraid to show your face, guess what? You're too afraid to even talk to me or debate with me or even show receipts. So I don't understand why people still follow those accounts. And there's others out there that do the old what's the old adage? The attack someone by name.
Speaker 4:They you know what I'm referring to. You just basically attack the person and not the argument.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. So people can they can DM you on Twitter. That's one of the main ways. Is there
Speaker 4:at raiklin.com?
Seth Holehouse:Info @ raiklin Com.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Let me see. I think I got some. Yeah. I got something here.
Speaker 4:I got my new batch of business cards out getting ready to go back on tour so people can always hand these out and say, hey. If you got a question about the deep state, send me an email. So I'm on x, rumble, telegram, gab, getter, locals, truth, and Substack. Screenshot that.
Seth Holehouse:There we go. That's it. There's the email. There's the website. Make sure you're make sure you're, of course, following you on x.
Speaker 4:And I'm soon gonna have to change that from deep state marauder to secretary of retribution.
Seth Holehouse:There you go. Yeah. So for everyone watching right now and we've gotten let's see. I I was just I've been checking. We've got close to 15 thou yeah.
Seth Holehouse:15,000 watching us live right now, which is great. So make sure everyone is watching. Make sure you follow Ivan at Ivan Rakelin. Make sure you follow me at man in America US. Follow both of us.
Seth Holehouse:Take a pause right now. Hit that follow button. Okay? We're we're gonna be we're gonna be doing more of these conversations. That's important.
Seth Holehouse:You just, you know, rewind, screenshot afterwards, get your email address, contact you. And I think that what I see with this so your your initial video that's gone, you know, super viral, you know, millions and millions of views, we have to get that in front of the right people. Like, Elon Musk should be tagged in every instance of that video being shared. Local sheriffs should be tagged. Like, for people that are watching right now saying, what can I do?
Seth Holehouse:You can go down to your local sheriff right now with your iPhone or whatever you're using, your Android, have them say, hey. Can I get twenty minutes? Please watch this video. Right? Because I think that their people are we're we're we're starving.
Seth Holehouse:We're looking for what to do. And we No.
Speaker 4:Everyone's looking for a solution, and and it requires a lot of time and thought and deliberation. And especially a lot of people are like I've been asked this question when I'm on tour with General Flynn at the Q and A after the movie. And some of them allude to like, hey. Is it time to, you know, go Connecticut? And I say, no, not even close.
Speaker 4:There not does not need to be unlawful activity. Why? It's because these scum want us to do this civil war that they talk about with this with the content that they're putting out. What that does is, like, it makes us go after each other. That's not where the problem lies.
Speaker 4:The problem lies with those that manipulated us into hating each other. Okay? So while some people advocate for a removal known as a revolution, that's not the proper term because what happened was a coup d'etat. There needs to be a counter coup. Right?
Speaker 4:So when people are like, oh, we're going go up in arms. Well, who are you going to go after? Well, let's let's figure out a lawful, legal, moral, ethical, constitutionally sound method to solve our problem. Our current number one existential threat problem to our system of governance are 350 or so people across our institutions, if we were to just even take one or two of them to create maximal consequence to those one or two, the rest of them will stop their treasonous behavior. We might not get to all of them, but they I guarantee you, they're gonna shut their mouths and start to color in the lines.
Speaker 4:And then we create laws and mechanisms to guarantee that they color within the lines moving forward. That is a massive win. Just but then, obviously, I always like to go for maximal wins. I only go after the impossible. Things that are difficult, I leave to others.
Speaker 4:Things that are impossible, that's where I focus my attention.
Seth Holehouse:So one question I'm seeing pop up a bunch in the chat is, is there any risk in sharing this? Right? Like, you're you know, you could say you're showing your cards that you're unveiling the deep state plan. Is there any risk in that, or does the benefit outweigh the risk? Or how would you respond to that?
Speaker 4:I always get this when these kind of, like, public campaigns happen. If you Okay. If I have this plan and I have it in my head. How is that going to come to fruition? It won't.
Speaker 4:If I put this out. And it looks like I'm hiding or doing it nefariously, then it can be presented to others as, oh, Ivan's trying to, like, game something. You're just trying to make it look, like, sneaky and nefarious. No. This needs to be out publicly massively so that our entire United States citizen jury pool is already ready.
Speaker 4:And I wanna motivate people to be clamoring to if this is a good idea and if people like it, then why don't we go ahead and execute on it? If you have a better idea and my thought process on coming up with this idea, and I'm angry at myself for not thinking of this day one when Elon Musk purchased x. It didn't come to me until, like, months later. It's just that it'd be nice to do this with Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook DMs. Right?
Speaker 4:And LinkedIn DMs and Insta garbage DMs. But right now, Mark Zuckerbuck is part of the problem. So is Facebook. So is Insta garbage. So is Google and Kami Tube and all these other scum.
Speaker 4:The only platform where we can loop in these deep state actors outside of their their ability to protect their communications from being FOIA because they're going to slow roll us through litigation. Right. Or if they're gonna say it's classified, the only method and like that I can think of that can quickly, literally like this, release a trove of information that will lead to the next step in the investigative path to criminalize these folks is through the Twitter mechanism, because Elon Musk has already publicly not only has he said he's for free speech, which is important, but not as important as he's already done over almost two dozen Twitter files dumps. Okay? We can't rely on Congress.
Speaker 4:We've seen how slow they are. This is literally the fastest path to a complete kind of First Amendment dump. You know, the mother of all Twitter files. What is it? M o a t f.
Speaker 4:Hashtag m o a t f.
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Seth Holehouse:He says, how can I become a deputy? So and that's this is what I see too. And, of course, yeah, if Elon say that this catches wind and he's he watches it and he say shares your video, which would be fantastic, say he does help and and and dump these files, Great. Right? But to me, it's it's like, okay.
Seth Holehouse:The absolutely amazing if he does, but I'm saying most likely he won't because it's better to not rely on that happening. Right? So the the the plan of us being able to do this on our own, like, love the question that Brian's asking. He's saying, like, hey. I'm in New Jersey.
Seth Holehouse:How can I become a deputy? Right? So how can people on the local level start kicking us into action? Because for people who saying, oh, there is no plan. It's like, no.
Seth Holehouse:No. It it's actually even General Flynn. I've had Flynn on, you know, multiple times, and he consistently says, he's like, you are the plan. Like, we the people are the plan. I think enough of us have to realize Going
Speaker 4:back to this again, I don't have the solution for everything, but I try to be first in everything I do. Okay? Having said that, so local action equals national impact. A lot of people don't understand the totality of what that means when general Flynn says that. There's two massive components that are not, I don't think, articulated enough for people to understand where General Flynn is coming from.
Speaker 4:Let me give you the first one. Before he was the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, if you can pull this up while I'm saying this, Seth, he was the assistant director of national intelligence for partner engagements. Can you pull that up?
Seth Holehouse:There's something screwy happening with my audio when I was pulling a video up. So I I could do it post, but I can't do it live.
Speaker 4:Okay. Okay. So the assistant director of national I'll I'll just explain it. Yeah. The assistant director of national intelligence for partner engagements is the office holder within the director of national intel office of director of national intelligence that is responsible for coordinating all intelligence and law enforcement interactions and liaison on behalf of the intelligence community with local, county, state, tribal.
Seth Holehouse:What are
Speaker 4:we talking about? The 3,143 county and county equivalents, the 50 states and the six federal districts and territories, and then all of the international partners that America has a intelligence liaison partnership with. That position has more you get more context on all of the institutions at play from an intel and law enforcement perspective, basically national security, than any other position in the entire US government. That's the position he held before he was the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. So he has a little bit of perspective and understanding and context when he says local action, national impact.
Speaker 4:As part of that, you get to understand the legal framework of the federalism that we have in America. Right? The balances between state, tribal, federal authority, because each one is a separate sovereign. That's number one. Number two, local action, national impact.
Speaker 4:Local action starts with the self. Right? You as an individual and doing the maximum to set the example for others. So the more this is how innate leadership occurs. When you do more than anybody that's around you, you are then able to, without really saying anything, motivate others to do slightly more than they were doing before.
Speaker 4:Because now they're like, oh, wow, this guy's busting his butt, sweating and not complaining. I'll help, you know, I'll do more than what I wanted to do before. That's number one. And then if you can motivate your family, your community to do slightly more to raise the bar and raise the standard of those that are representing you at the county board level, at the county executive level, at the school board, at the board of elections, at the district attorney, the sheriff, the state rep, the state senator. Once we start to again, some of these things you can set up so that it's only paper ballot in person hand count.
Speaker 4:Right? So these smaller positions, we can start to reclaim. And then once we reclaim those, then we can start going on offense with the deputization process, right? And then so on and so forth. Now to go to the question of how do I get deputized?
Speaker 4:That is a function of state law and sometimes the rules of the county. So without knowing which county and which state you're in, we know which state, it would require me to take a look and see what the authorities are of the local law enforcement is or whatever law enforcement entity you have to see if they have the authority and the ability to deputize you. So I would recommend taking a look at what are the deputization rules of your state. Usually requires, I mean, as a general rule of thumb, you need training, right? You're going to need all the necessary training to be deputized because obviously background check training, so that at the end of the day, as an agent of a higher authority, the sheriff, they don't wanna have complete lawless activity done by their deputies because there's some risk involved with that.
Speaker 4:So you can mitigate that risk with the vetting process.
Seth Holehouse:That's helpful. I wanna call attention to one comment. This is from salty seadog who says we're nearing critical mass. And I I have to say that that that's something that's worth focusing on a little bit because I'm seeing that too. I know that, you know, I've I've met you many times at different conferences, whether it's reawaken or whatnot.
Seth Holehouse:You're on the front lines. You're seeing it. You look at what's happening on Twitter. You look at the information that's going out and it's going viral on Twitter. This could have happened three or four years ago.
Seth Holehouse:So the you know, you might call it the great awakening or whatever you wanna refer to it as, you could say that enough Americans are finally pissed off enough. They're gonna do something about it. You could call that that's a great awakening. Right? It's like I'm getting off the couch.
Seth Holehouse:I'm really angry because I can't afford to live anymore, and I'm gonna do something about it. So I do think that we are reaching that critical mass. We're reaching that critical mass. I think that what that translates to is enough of we, the people, actually willing to take action on the ground. Nothing illegal.
Seth Holehouse:That's the beautiful part about this is everything that you're talking about is about following the constitution. It's not forming militias and storming the capital. Right? It is following the constitution to enact that, because we understand the power comes from the ground up. The power comes from We the People, and we give it to these federal leaders to do good for our country, and they're not doing that anymore.
Seth Holehouse:So we take the power back. What what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4:No. Absolutely. Let's contextualize. On January eighth of twenty twenty one, our First Amendment was completely obliterated. That's when all of the takedowns happened.
Speaker 4:Right? And then it only increased from there and increased. It wasn't until Elon well, it was before that. GETR was created. Right?
Speaker 4:Rumble started to develop. Truth Social. You notice on my business card. Let's take a look. Substack, Truth Locals was created.
Speaker 4:GETR, Gab started to flourish. Telegram became the go to on January tenth of twenty twenty one after Parler was shut down, right, because of Amazon's complicity in the censorship industrial complex. Now we have x with Elon. In order to correct this, we have to have a First Amendment so that we can explain what's going on to people. And since then, it's just just looking at this.
Speaker 4:I've been literally last day, I've been scanning all the comments. And normally, it's like a you know, previously when I was back on X initially, 80% of the comments was hate. Then it became 50. Then it became 30. But yet my followers are growing.
Speaker 4:This post, I would say that 99.9% of the comments are overwhelmingly positive. People clamoring for, oh my god, this is the best thing I've ever seen in the history of my life. Right? Like, mean, I'm being, like, facetious, but the the the trend that I'm seeing, I don't know. This may be a pivot point.
Speaker 4:I think a lot of people that were part of that censorship regime ended up leaving, and now they're scared as well they should be. As I said in the video, I am not scared when people say, oh, aren't you afraid of this? I'm like, no. If you're asking me that question, you are obviously scared, and I need to work on improving your confidence level and your current courage so that you never ask that question again. Because if you are guided by the truth and nothing else really matters, then you just go after it.
Speaker 4:And if you don't have the full truth, then you have to put in the work to be able to get to that more than anybody else. I always say be more physically fit, mentally fit than anybody else so that when you can have a discussion and debate just like I did with the national poison radio lady, I mean, you can tell that there's a disparity in, let's just say, verbal colloquial capability in that conversation. It's always good to be more studied and more physically fit for times like these, particularly if you're deputized and you need to conduct those live stream raids. So I just got done swimming. That's why I came in a couple almost late.
Seth Holehouse:Almost. Sweating bullets in here. So one question. Know you're on time. Do you still have a little more time to to keep answering some questions, or do you have a pretty I know you
Speaker 4:mentioned a pretty hard time. Wrapping it up. Yeah. Because I gotta get up early. I'm head tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4:I'm heading back to on on tour with general Flynn. I just took a break and spent some time with my with my boys going to Lincoln, Nebraska. We have Lincoln, Nebraska tomorrow night. I think, Saturday, we're doing an event in, again, Lincoln, Nebraska. Monday, have Tulsa, Oklahoma, then a couple locations in Dallas.
Speaker 4:For those that are veterans in law enforcement, by the way, on May 22, go to the website. It's free for military and law enforcement, the Flynn movie showing. I'll pull up the exact location, and then we'll we're gonna close out in in the Houston area. But I I have a few minutes.
Seth Holehouse:Well, one question actually I'll ask you. So I see GB who's user erica jane twenty ten parade. Who asks yes. True. How about the border?
Seth Holehouse:And that that's a question I've seen a handful of times here. There's also we're seeing, I think, UN troops coming across the border. Obviously, Chinese troops coming across the border. So what are your thoughts on just the overwhelming number of criminals pouring across our well, not just criminals. I mean, you know, fifth column, CCP, whatever enemy, you know, you can imagine.
Seth Holehouse:How does that play into this, and and how do you equate all that?
Speaker 4:That's a great question. I mean, you just teeing me up perfectly. I don't know if you can see this.
Seth Holehouse:Yes. I can see that.
Speaker 4:Who that is?
Seth Holehouse:Who is that? It's it's small. Tell us who it is, but it's small on my preview screen.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So you see there Military law. Attorney general, Ken Paxton of Texas, his wife, and yours truly.
Seth Holehouse:Looks like you're telling him how it works.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't say that. He knows how it works. And let me just say this. I have a lot of respect for attorney general Ken Paxton. And I'm guessing that remember when there was that little impeachment process going on against him a few months ago at the hands of the Bush Cheney syndicate, and he destroyed them and flicked that impeachment like a booger?
Speaker 4:Yep. I suspect he's ready to go on offense. As part of his offensive play is to address the border, Texas being the biggest border state. Right? And he can go ahead and go after the DNA mutilation product distributors.
Speaker 4:Right? Remember that the Texas attorney general's office, I believe, is the largest law firm in the country outside of the DOJ. So he has quite the capability to go after targets. My short answer.
Seth Holehouse:There you go. Well, there you go. This this is a good place to wrap up. I wanna I'll I'll give you, you know, the opportunity to have some some final words here, but just wanna remind everyone that's watching to follow your account, Ivan Raekelin. You put your contact information up there.
Seth Holehouse:People can DM you to follow my account, man in America US. We're gonna be doing more of these these spaces. You've been you've been a guest many times before, whether it was, you know, Trump speaker or, you know, January 6, etcetera. So, folks, make sure you're following both of us.
Speaker 4:The next play.
Seth Holehouse:This is it. It's funny. It's it's so funny.
Speaker 4:And then crush the commies.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Well It's up
Speaker 4:with a new big op.
Seth Holehouse:Well, I remember when I interviewed you about the whole Trump speaker thing, it was before anyone was talking about it. And I feel coming into the chat saying, you guys are idiots. There's never this is never gonna happen. There's no possibility. And we saw how close that got.
Seth Holehouse:But the beautiful thing about this is that this is it's about We The People. This places the power in the hands of We The People and the sheriffs that represent We The People, and that gives me hope. It really does give me hope. But I'll I'll go ahead and pass it over to you to give some final thoughts.
Speaker 4:Yeah. So the biggest takeaway of this entire, whatever, hour and ten minutes that we've been talking is I'm one dude. Right? It only takes one person to really implement and execute on really anything. I went to this hearing yesterday without any you know how much it cost me to go to that hearing?
Speaker 4:I parked my vehicle, and I spent, I believe, $5 to park my vehicle twenty minutes away from my home, walked into the hearing known as weaponization, empowered by all the research and experience that I put together over the course of a lifetime, was confronted by a national poison reporter and then pressed record on my camera. Next thing you know, five and a half, whatever, 6,000,000 people Seth calls me up. So the moral of the story here is constantly think of ways to fix the problems around you and action, action, action. I want to be able to say that I failed 9,999 times so that that one time that I am successful, it is literally one of the biggest successes in American human history. So I'll keep failing as long as I can get that one win, and I think this is gonna be that time.
Seth Holehouse:Well, there you go, man. So so folks are asking if this is being recorded. It it is being recorded, So this will live in the the the halls of Twitter. You know, it'll be it'll be on my profile. I'm sure you can share
Speaker 3:it too.
Speaker 4:Ryan Aunton censors it out.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Also, probably tomorrow
Speaker 4:during surrogates.
Seth Holehouse:I'll make sure it's up on Rumble and other places as well, even podcast form as well. And, yeah, man. It's been it's been great speaking with you. I'm we'll we'll have to do this again maybe because of regular thing, you know, Ivan's updates. And I think ultimately, you know, what I walked away from with this too is that same thing.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, you and I, we're we're two people. We're We're two people. But there's we're both men in America. Right? There's millions and millions and millions of men and women in America that want to see this happen, and it's on us.
Seth Holehouse:So next step is sharing this video, sharing your original video, tagging people, getting to you know, talking to our local sheriffs, going to local school boards, getting involved. Flynn, I I wanna
Speaker 4:No one else is doing it. If you're thinking of, like, hey. This person needs to do it. If no one's doing it, you have to do it. I looked to my left and right.
Speaker 4:No one was defending general Flynn. I'm like, this is embarrassing. So I jumped in the fray and doubled down, and lo and behold, luckily, I was right the whole time.
Seth Holehouse:Also wanna give you a plug to his movie. So Flynnmovie.com. I know you're involved in the tour, so, you know, go go ahead and give a shameless plug for General Flynn's movie real quick before we before we finish off here. So
Speaker 4:I'm actually in the movie several times. Did you have a chance to see it yet?
Seth Holehouse:No. I I have. I I've been so I've got a three month old, and we just Are serious? I had to build a new studio.
Speaker 2:So
Speaker 4:another interview with you until you do until you watch No. But seriously, it is the most emotionally impactful movie I have seen. And I get it. Maybe it's because I was involved in it. I I had a first or second row seat.
Speaker 4:But looking at the people watching the movie, it's powerful. It is so powerful. It's worth two hours. If you wanna know more about what I was discussing in that twenty minute video, to me, it's a superficial overview. But for most people, it's going to be that haven't been following this closely, that is the most succinct two hour discussion of the deep state and how they weaponized against General Flynn to try to destroy him and his family, and it's a a story of success and how when a family sticks together, you can crush the deep state and embarrass them, and that's the moral of the Flynn story.
Speaker 4:So now we go on offense.
Seth Holehouse:Well, there we go. So it's flinnmovie.com.
Speaker 4:Yep. It's on streaming everything, you know, all the major plays.
Seth Holehouse:Alright. Well, Ivan, it's been great, man. I appreciate you. I I'm checking really quick for, you know, for the records we've got. Let's see.
Seth Holehouse:We're at up at almost 21,000 live viewers, which is that that's it, man. That shows you that people are hungry for this. People are hungry. They're looking for this. This is encouraging.
Seth Holehouse:And for all the people watching right now, thank you. Thank you for being the people that aren't watching the TV. They're they're not watching a football game. They're on Twitter watching this interview because they care about their country. So thank you to each and every one of those 21,000 people that are watching this.
Seth Holehouse:I hope all of you share it, follow us, get involved, get engaged, watch the Flynn movie. Ivan, thanks, man. It's been a great time with you. Thank you so much for being here, man.
Speaker 4:Thank you, Seth. God bless you, brother.
Seth Holehouse:God bless. Take care.