The Keeper League - AFL Fantasy Podcast


In this week's episode of The Keeper League Podcast, the original duo is back! Heff is joined by former co-host Kaes as they dive into the latest developments in AFL Fantasy. This episode features discussion on the new competitions in GameDay Squad and a detailed analysis of the newly designated DPP (Dual Position Players) in the game. As always, Heff and Kaes will tackle listener questions, providing personalized advice and strategic insights to help you excel in your draft and keeper leagues.

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Host
Ryan 'Heff' Gerlach
Co-founder and host of The Keeper League Podcast

What is The Keeper League - AFL Fantasy Podcast?

An AFL Fantasy Podcast that doesn't focus on the superstars. We look at the up-and-comers and the lesser-known players to help you win your draft and keeper leagues.

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G'day listeners, welcome back to another episode of the K-Poleek podcast,

where the AFL Fantasy podcast doesn't talk about the surf stars.

We only talk about the lesser-known and the players who bring value to your draft and K-Poleek teams.

My name is Heff and we've got the OJ lineup back in the room tonight.

Welcome back to the show, Kays.

Hello.

Heff, good mate, yourself.

Yeah, not too bad.

Now you've moved on to bigger and better things with your front runner.

In-correct.

Podcasts.

What's it like being part of a successful podcast?

There are some smaller and even more niche than the Keeper League.

Which is pretty crazy to say, but...

No, not so first season of the front runner podcast for those interested in South Australian horse racing.

Yes.

Give it a listen, and not that's probably relevant anymore,

because we've talked about what's already happened in the past,

but... no, good to be back in the...

They can subscribe for next year.

Yeah, they can subscribe.

We'll do a few shows throughout the year as well.

Just dribs and drabs, but...

Yeah, subscribe.

Give it five stars, even if you haven't listened to it.

And... but no, it's good to be back in the home of podcasting in South Australia.

- It's a really tough. - You've been busy the last 10 weeks has it been for the show?

Yeah, we've done 11 weeks of podcasts,

and then we've had our three group-one race days over here in South Australia,

which are big, and...

Yeah, it's been good.

So that's obviously been taking up a lot of your time, because your keeper league team has gone to shit.

I think that all went to shit, roughly early March, when I took part in the draft,

I think that's where it all went bad, but...

Yeah, look, it's dire.

I'm sitting in ninth spot from now.

I'm actually trying to tank from now on in, because it's just like...

I remember trying to get a good draft pick.

Jesus, if you're a commissioner, if you knew another person in the league was trying to tank right now,

you'd be coming down at the time of the record.

That was off the record.

Yes, the person in the commission.

I'm actually not...

I've actually not been trying to deliberately lose my team.

It's just garbage.

I've got lots of injuries, and I've got zero primos, apart from Max Gorn, and Sam Flan is when he isn't a crook.

That's like, to be honest, to be fair, that's probably better than some of the other captain options players in the league.

Have his just your depth is a bit short.

Yeah, now I've got...

We've just taken a bit of time to get back from injury, but now really cooking, which I like to say,

but...

Yeah, injuries, some bad draft picks, and that's me.

Well, yeah, it happens to all of us.

There's some bad ones out there, but...

Oh, well, it happens.

It happens, and I'm sure you'll bounce back in the coming years.

I'm excited to see you actually do a proper rebuild.

You know a really dumb one, if you're a job.

We actually made a trade last week, so we discussed that.

I gave you my first rounder, and Jy Clark is steak knives for Jack McCray.

What do you plan to do...

Say, for reference, I guess, our first round is...

Because we're going to keep 12.

Our first round is usually the 12th, like, 120th ranked players on wood type thing.

So last year, people like Dan Rielli were taking in that range.

James Warp was taken by you.

No, it was me.

It was my first pick.

I was a wolf's set of field, one of the two.

But yeah, and the players of that caliber were taken.

What are you planning to do with it?

Do you plan to use it so your first pick, which would be high, you can target one of those

first-year players and then still use it the first pick?

Yeah, I might use it as a first pick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think...

Oh, it depends who's in the pool and where my legs are.

I think what I tried, you know, like, I thought I was in a bit of a window.

I don't know, it's a huge, like, I'm going to win the thing window, but, you know, another

could be a genuine contender, I suppose.

And I kind of just tried to top up with some depth and I didn't work out well.

And what has become glaringly obvious is that I actually don't have any, like, premium

mids anymore.

So, like, I just need to try and find the next, you know, 100 pluser.

So that's probably where I'm going to focus on my attention.

I try...

You know, I was so confident that my four-line was so strong.

Yeah.

And that has been good, but everybody else has been right.

You kind of like what I did in my bottom out where I targeted, you know, your Dawson's,

your Jack Steele's, your Andrew Bray Shaws, who are all similar age, coming in.

You've got to just be shit for a few years and think something about it.

I've really embraced it.

I'm, you know, enjoying watching, you know, guys like Ollie Dempsey, just, you know, really

get around the club and, you know, some of the older blocs just...

From someone who's been in their position, it is kind of exciting.

It's a long road back.

Like, it's...

It's been a bit...

It's been a bit...

It's been a bit...

Great guns and defenders are a little bit shallower, no one wants him.

I'll take him, actually.

No one wants to keep...

I need a defender.

People should take Jeremy Cameron.

I mean, I just want too much for them.

You just gotta go.

I just gotta go.

Don't.

Okay.

Well, I just want someone who potentially is like in my 12 keepers for next year.

That's all I remember.

He's Massimo D'Ambro.

I see in your 12 keepers.

No.

(Laughs)

Anyways, we're going to stuck into the show.

But first we'll thank our partners in Game Day Squad.

Now, in case...

You, you play Faberity Game Day Squad?

You're probably one of the biggest grinders.

I know.

You love the transfer market.

You even sign ups like rugby league and stuff so you have more funds to like sell them

and have more funds to play in Game Day Squad.

Yep.

I think you got to be pretty excited by this.

Game Day Squad have now introduced multi-comps.

Love this.

So that means you can play in multiple competitions at the one time.

So previously, if you weren't in the Champions League competition, you had to play in...

Was that the classic competition?

And you could only choose one.

You know, you can play in both.

Now you can enter two at once or three at once at four at once and the reason why I say

that, there are two new competitions you can actually play.

So there's the starter competition which is bronze only.

Cool.

So all those starter packs that you get at the starter week, which I've left sitting there

for months and months and I've got a hundred of them sitting there because they're no

used to me.

They now come into play because you need a team full of completely bronze cards and I've

actually just piled for the transfer market of all the good cheap bronze as well.

It's supposed to have this kind of inside.

I did it after the competition.

A lot of the biggest inside traders in this world.

I did it after the competition went live.

You can check the records.

But also the Challenger competition has been launched as well, which is basically like the

champion competition where you can play with your fans, your crazy cards and all that

sort of stuff.

But there's a salary cap.

So, yeah, you can't use them all.

And there's a limit on how many special cards you can do.

I actually made my Challenger team just before and I could actually fit my whole squad

into my whole champion squad because it's not as good as the rest of the people.

I could fit my whole champion squad into the Challenger squad.

Hopefully it's right on the salary cap.

So, yeah.

What's the side about the bronze leg?

Because there's been lots of cards and they're kind of worthless because you need to

superzo go to play in the regular league.

But now we are game on.

I'm excited.

I'm excited.

100%.

So, yeah, get around game, though, squad.

If you haven't signed up yet, now's the time.

It's an awesome time to start because it's kind of like those two competitions are starting

are new.

So, if you're only coming halfway through the season, you don't have to worry about being

so far behind.

There's also great prizes.

I think you can get all star cards as well as the weekly prizes for those leagues as well.

So, they might be pretty handy for people building their squads out there as well.

So, link in the description.

Make sure you click that because then they know you've come from here, which is great for

me.

But, yeah, sign up.

Have a good one.

Have a good one.

And go from there.

Can I just say what I've seen before we get into any more star?

Of course you can.

So, obviously on Facebook looking around, just squeezing around and you posted from the

keyplagation account that half has K's joining him in the studio tomorrow and all that.

So, get your questions in below.

Yeah.

Right.

And I was looking at it and I was like, should I just be cheeky and put a comment in anyway?

On the options, you know, there's this like AI generated question in this one that says,

how does K's contribute to the show is one of the questions?

Now, I don't think that's AI.

I reckon you've actually done that yourself.

Just try and bait me.

Well, I've no idea.

What's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what it is?

Look, this is what it is.

This is, you can choose to ask you that question.

That can't be real.

You've really just tried to join me out.

I'm sorry.

I didn't see that.

So, the, the options are, tell me where it has to be or how does K's actually contribute

to the show.

Yeah.

That's amazing.

I think I, I think I actually did get screenshot of that last night that someone sent

it to me, but, yeah, I didn't actually know what it meant.

But, I'm not on Facebook anymore.

Yeah, really.

So, I, I really, I don't really get the meta AI thing, but that's a pretty funny,

if that's the suggested question.

Um, sorry.

We'll go back to the game rest.

Because we've got to spin the wheel.

You say it way too hard.

Um, let's spin the wheel.

So, we spin the wheel each week for someone to win a game day squad card.

You're actually in this case.

You should take it out for this one, but, uh, no, no, no, no, have you signed up?

Or maybe not?

No, just spin it.

All right, let's do it.

It'll be even better.

Yeah, that would be pretty fine.

Eventually in that one, I'm sure.

Anyways, spin the wheel.

Spin the wheel.

Come on.

Oh.

Sloth Kings.

Sloth Kings.

Well, we're done for the Sloth Kings.

You know the deal, buy now Sloth Kings, uh, getting in contact with me, confirm me your email,

address, uh, and you know, and I will send you the pack just yet.

Jump on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, um, email, whatever.

Take it off.

Have some.

Get in contact with me.

Use it himself for one of the new legs.

Don't make me, don't make me chase you for it.

All right.

Uh, the other thing we need to talk about is the DP pays, which were added in the other

thing.

Um, let's just read through them and then I'll see if any tickle your fancy there.

Um, Travis Boak got added forward.

He's probably the most relevant one there undrafted in our league.

So he's actually probably going to be the number one for the mid season draft.

Clancy will be in there, I guess, I think is one of few others, but yeah, he got some

nice names in our draft pool for the mid season.

Ben Ainsworth got added mid, Ed Richards got mid, Jace Berger and got mid, Kalam R.

Chee got forward status.

Jack Sinclair got mid, uh, Jack Williams got rough status and he's got the mid.

And he got a rouse myth, got mid apart from Boak there to any of those take your fancy.

Now, I suppose it all does is give you a bit more flexibility across these kind of

buy rounds to be playing through that you can move.

Yeah, some of these people around, uh, just to fill the gap if you need me, but, uh,

now nothing really is that exciting, isn't the defender's getting added mid and the

forward getting added mid have been a, like, just a lifestyle of me this year, like having

to move like Archie Perkins into the midfield, like, because I've had Tom Mitchell, I've

had, uh, Fiery who got dropped, I looked park, or my list, like, straightening for mid depth,

but like any of these guys are still get your 80s, 70s and 80s, most weeks, you can still

check the midfield and then you know, then I'm bringing on people like Jack Innervin and

stuff like that, it was scoring 70s and 80s.

It's been an actual saver where I wouldn't have even played him somewhat like him in the

first place.

No, I think actually with the, the decrease or actually no utility options anymore.

And so, the four to seven days are actually a bit more valuable than they previously were.

Yeah, so not a lot there that's really valuable.

Yeah, like having be honest, I put somewhere like Jack Sinclair in your midfield, if you've

got enough, could defend us, which I find mid defender depth is probably a bit stronger

this year than it has been recently.

So it kind of is like helpful for that.

But anyway, let's get into the round review.

So Western Bordogs versus the Sydney Spons case, I know you love Empires and you always

am tweaked positive things about Empires.

I, um, didn't see any tweaked for you at the end of this game though.

What's supposed to go there?

You're all done tweaked.

Uh, something about a 50 meter penalty that was given away in the last, uh, dying seconds,

whatever that cost Western Bordogs the game.

Did it?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Who was it?

It was, um, actually was out.

Oh, really?

So you've missed the, uh, you didn't see any of this.

Oh, I know.

I missed the, uh, I was, uh, I was, I was, I was, yeah, I, I kind of even get angry.

I kind of should remember specifically who it was, but, um, it was like a smothered, tried

to like punch the ball out of the hands, but it was like a merely second after it, he'd

taken the mark.

Mm-hmm.

And I was just called 50 straight away and cost in the game.

Like, had absolutely like still in the passage of play was probably in before he blew the whistle.

You know, I think they've come out and, um, it's met a minute it was wrong.

Oh, that's nice.

Yeah, they don't usually do that.

Yeah.

Well, they don't do it.

They don't want to say they'll be able to pull down and say no, extra right.

They're doing, oh, they doubled down on the, um, they'll call the good one where they

gave the, uh, it was crazy.

Like, I was quivered for anyway.

Um, yeah, let's move on from that.

Riley West is the player I want to talk about first though.

He had 81 points.

He's been a pretty handy contributor forward for me this season.

He got used a lot more in the Sanabaya.

It's attendance is this week.

I feel like that's because Richards was out.

But what are your thoughts on him as a forward option this season?

As a forward option and handy, he's always kind of, uh, promised a little bit and I think

with, you know, uh, beveo experimenting a little bit more, you know, at times, through the

midfield, you know, I've seen Richards play there a lot more, you know, McCray, uh, etc.

has been kind of dropped, livers injured.

I think there's a few more guys that are running through there now.

Obviously like, um, there's been a big winner of that too.

So, um, definitely worth a play.

Um, is he going to be around in too many leagues?

That would be my question.

Yeah, I don't know.

He's like, kind of, and it's kind of one of those players that won't make my keepers.

No, I don't think he's going to make a keeper, but it's going to be very more, sorry, more

than handy just, you know, cover for this season.

Yeah, he's probably someone worth targeting.

I don't know.

The things he got, you got libert coming back in a few weeks and that sort of stuff, like

Richards will be, I need to say, might, maybe it's a one week play as an interdraft

league as a streamer, um, a loophole, sorry, waiver option, that's the one I'm looking

for.

Um, Riley Garcia had 78 points.

I know you've been fond of Garcia, both Garcia is actually because of their VFL form.

Yeah.

They'll put up big numbers here.

They were.

Yeah, Riley was doing it, um, before he made it to the side a few weeks ago, um, and was

putting up, yes, some really, really good numbers.

So really good that, that forms continuing on into the big leagues.

And I think he's more than serviceable.

I've, they've got a few of these kind of, um, you know, mid-tier players that they bring

in and out of the side a bit, but, uh, yeah, he's definitely showing something can,

um, obviously hitting the school board, which obviously helps keep you in the side

long term, so I like that.

Now the last one list here is Jake Lloyd.

Um, I'm not going to give you shit about this one because I agree with you last time that

he was, uh, and he was over.

But since that, uh, that's not, we did that podcast.

Things around three.

He's averaged 87 points per game since.

Yeah.

So I think that's just pretty few lessons to the podcast.

Well, this is, your standards have really slipped here because if you're like boasting

about an 87 average, now I know technically that's 2G4P, but like we're talking about

the great Jake Lloyd, the person that people would have wasted incredibly high draft picks,

I mean, what was his ADP now?

If it was actually anything good, it's still not acceptable.

I think I'm not giving you any past marks there.

First, um, first thing I'll ask is how many people in your team averaging over 87?

This is not about my side.

This is about the greater good.

I'm not just so self-sensitive about my team lately.

Well, I look out for all fantasy players across the board.

So I'm going to say not many people are averaging 87 in your side.

Go on, Flanders, Wheel Day, mmm, that's about it.

From memory, I reckon you had Jake Lloyd ranked higher than me this season.

Well, that's great, but he still did mean lower.

I think you had him ranked 20th.

You had him 18th.

So is he the 18th best defender in the leg this year?

I don't know.

We'll have to look that up.

I reckon he'd be closer.

I'll get the, so bear with us while we actually get this up, but.

Do the podcast research live on Floor.

Yeah, yeah.

So what is he wearing?

He's in the top.

That looks like the top 10.

One, two, three, five, six, seven, eight, nine, two.

Actually, no, that's not including players that are in my team as well.

So we need to go to defenders.

Jesus, this must be ruining listening for people not quite in the top.

No, he's down quite a bit.

Oh, God.

You've got to keep scrolling that far.

I think that's the thing.

I think he's not actually averaging 87.

That's the thing.

He's only been 87 since that point onwards.

Yeah, still not good enough.

So let's go like last three averages.

Still not good enough.

Last three averages are, I can you prove, yeah, that's fine.

But, you know what?

Still actually down quite a bit, but yeah.

Yes.

What I'm saying is he's just not the premier.

He used to be like 87 is fine.

That's not Jake Lloyd.

That means he's gone.

But for me, he's not even like my D1 anymore.

That's cool, but he was at one point.

Yeah.

He would have potentially been someone's D1 this year, or maybe, you know, at worst D2.

Yeah, true.

And that's what I mean.

He's not that elite Jake Lloyd anymore, unfortunately.

I don't think we have a disagree with it.

It was more so the time you told to sell him.

It was like, yeah, he would have got him so high.

Now you can't give him away for a bag of paint.

Every time you've written him off, he's been like two weeks of like 60s and stuff like that.

And that's like the worst time to sell him.

You got to sell him.

He was the time I've seen you've got to get him on the team.

Yeah, I think that's probably the thing.

But yeah, I'm more than happy with what he's putting out at the moment.

I was really upset, early on in the season, but more than happy in the last few weeks.

So, especially in a contending side, he's perfect for me.

It's fine.

From mental versus calling wood.

Hey, Chapman had his first good score since pretending from injury.

He's on that half-back line.

What do you feel about that half-back line for free-matter?

Is this goat for him being a consistently good score as he works his way back into it?

Consistent?

No.

I think you just got a lot of mouse, a feedback there.

Young still spends a whole lot of time back there, Ryan.

Ash can kind of push back deep on the wing.

He has been starved a bit since Chapman's come back.

He's not putting up this huge numbers, but I think really since about around three or four,

he's hasn't really been putting up huge numbers again.

But I don't know.

I'm kind of with you.

He was just such a big classic undervalued name because of hating young going into the midfield.

But then I don't think anyone, well some people did, but a lot of people didn't expect Clark

to go to this level this year.

Maybe thought '89, he's not the one kind of 40s, he's putting up and things like that.

So I kind of agree, it's hard for him to be consistent, but he's probably worth a

way of a pick up.

Yeah, well, a plus if you think about my man Jeremy Sharp who's having a really good season

on the wing, there's just so many kind of guys who can play that running half-back

wing.

That outside role, so it just really depends on which number he's in that scheme of things

there if he's going to be consistent.

We won't talk about these next two too much, but Brandon Walker has had 82 points, so he's

actually had a couple good scores this season.

Just a guy like the look of a couple years ago, but he was just always too defensive because

he had that run and dash, can tackle.

But yeah, too good defensively to score consistently, but he's had a few good scores this season.

The other one's Bayley Bandfield, just a tip of the cap for 81 points from three goals.

He's had some really good games this year.

He's not from a fantasy point of view, but from a clutch.

They've needed him in there, so I know one of your favourites, Sam's with Kowski.

He got CBAs again on the weekend.

My question is can this continue?

And is Nat5 cooked?

I don't know if Nat5 is cooked.

Nat5 might need a rest, I think, whether he has a double week by or something like that

for him coming up.

I would love to see his two-cowsky have a go.

He was pretty sure he got injured late in the preseason or very early on the season and

just hasn't come back with the same vigorous.

I thought he was going to start the year when he had these opportunities.

I still think there's some scope for some sort of kowski, sorry, to be a handy scorer.

What we're seeing, maybe a bit from Alex Nielbullen in Melbourne, where being a really good

link player between Ford and Back, because they're probably not kicking as many goals as

he used to be either.

That's sort of interesting, because yeah, that's just actually first.

After having a good back end of last year where he put up a few 80s and a row and got heaps

in midfield time, he actually hasn't had a cent about 10 to 6-year until this week.

It might just be a sign of things to come.

It's just the kind of classic reason as to why you'd use the CBA tool as those forwards

that seem to be pushing in.

There's just opportunities for more points.

He's a talented player, I like him a lot.

On the kind of side of things, Joe Richards has now been ruled out for five weeks.

Five weeks, so that sucks.

94 points just took a heap of marks in around the Ford 50, he kicked an ice goal as well.

I wasn't sure if he was going to be a fantasy type, but he probably isn't long-term with

everyone a fully fit light forward line, but he was just looking okay, but that's really

disappointing, so I probably wouldn't recommend picking him up now.

The thing is, where are you going to go with some of these guys, and you're touching

Harvey Harrison next, but the next iteration of that calling when midfield?

Some of these guys have to stand up soon.

In terms of, you know, Penderbury is going to have to go, like obviously Mitchell's 50/50,

playing each way, like Chris isn't getting any younger.

There's going to be some scope for like, whether it's Richards, Harrison, a couple of these

guys to maybe take that next step.

So, you know, these are the guys that we're talking about earlier in the show, like, trying

to, you know, find these kind of guys who are going to maybe break out in the year or two

and be that premium.

Like, I don't know if that's these guys just yet, but calling when does that midfield

where that's definitely a big chance to happen sooner, rather than later.

Yeah, the other one you mentioned, Harvey Harrison, 88 points, three goals, just a tip of the

cap for now, but yeah, there are some signs there for those younger players in the calling

wood side.

Move on to the awesome game that was North Melbourne versus Port Adelaide, 10 goal win this

one.

Yeah, 10 goals, see the one that we actually, oh no, funnily enough.

You notice how, you know, you guys didn't celebrate after just getting over Richmond?

Yeah, we're second in the year.

Yeah, we're pretty used to winning.

Yeah, that's what we all see.

And, you know, Adam Kingsley doesn't really make much of winning against Jolong at the

category.

You got Ken Hingley dancing around like an idiot when it happens, so yeah, that's a sign.

That gives me great confidence in his belief in the hatchet with Ken.

No, definitely not.

No, how's your and Tred has got any inside scoops from there?

No, but I listen to Tred's on the radio the night, but nothing, nothing inside.

But he did have something to say about Ken Hingley the other night, but I actually know

he said he's backing Ken Hingley for now, so maybe I've lost him.

Bit of cool A-B and a down-down helmet.

Perfect, you're right.

Darcy Tucker is the first fan.

And probably the most like, he's my number one wavour pick up for the week.

I've already made my video for the Tic Tox.

This way, you know, there's my Tic Tox.

Oh, I'm smashing the Tic Tox at the moment.

132 points, he scored though, but like, I did not see this coming, but he was playing in

defense, essentially in Colby McCurcher's role.

Just a deep all day, took a heap of marks.

Of course, my opponent had him as well, and I thought it was going to cost me the game,

but my boy, Jordy Dawson, saluted in the game.

Ken had got me over the line.

Thoughts on Darcy Tucker's role long term, factoring in that McCurcher's TBC, but also

when Aaron Byrons, is he worth picking up to not use him?

What do you think?

I don't know.

I'm beat off all these North Melbourne.

So-and-so players like Isaac Fishers and, you know, they might have one good week and

then they come back to reality.

I don't know.

If you've got a wavour, I'd have burned, go for it, and you've got to try these, some

things during these Byrons, especially if you're playing.

So, you know, give it a go.

I suppose it's really the risk of a reward of who you have to offload from your sides

to bring in someone who may just be a fleeting good player for a week or two.

I'm not sure.

Yeah, I think as soon as McCurcher comes back, he's done.

We don't actually know how long McCurcher's out for.

If it's a foot bone for stress, fractured, I don't know what they are these days, they

seem to be, they seem to be no risk-type.

Yeah, even if they could come back, they don't bother.

If you're bottom of the ladder and you're not risking one of your best stars, you're

not going to cook a kid.

Yeah.

So, anyway, it could be good for Tucker and Zach Fischiv as well, but he's already kind

of doing his thing now that McCurcher's out.

The Warlord, George Warlord, Ward Law, can't even pronounce that.

82 points.

I haven't spoke about him too much this year.

Has he been disappointing for you or has he been what you expected?

He's probably where he's at second year.

I think that's fine.

Like, he's not outside run and dash player who's going to get a bit of shape easy bolt.

He likes to go to work for it.

Yeah.

I think you've got to give him a bit of time to just develop into that body and become

that inside ball that he's probably not naturally going to be.

There was a lot of hype about him earlier on in the season and, yeah, I'm kind of with

you.

I saw him as a very inside player and there's quite a few out there that don't, they do

that inside work really well.

Like, some of the James Warp will all like an only one or some of that.

They do that inside work really, really well, but they just don't add the fantasy scores

because they don't get enough outside peel.

Maybe that is something he can build into his game, but I think a lot of people are

expecting too much of Wardle in his second year of football, especially when the first one

was so injured interrupted.

Yeah, totally.

As well.

I think he's going to be one of those third year breakouts, so sure.

Yeah.

And Travis Boke, 115 points.

We're telling people to get on for three weeks now.

He was on the wing less forward this round, but kind of Rosie pushed forward and then Bergen

was in the backlines.

But the reason why I was saying this is, I didn't actually realise that DPP was this week,

because I was a bit worried that it might start for his forward numbers, but it was this

week and you got it anyway.

So it doesn't really matter now.

Travis Boke's got his four status and he's scoring, okay.

Happy days.

Todd Marshall, tip of the cap, five goals, 106 points.

Darcy Bern joins another tip of the cap, said that we had Bern joins.

96 points, defensive forward, nine tackles, two goals there.

So that's why he's scored a good and they'll playing it as North.

Jace Burgoyne though.

He's a winger, but a genuine possession get it.

Just keeps fighting the footy.

He could be too good for the podcast next week.

I was actually thinking this during that game.

He might be one of the most underrated kind of players gone around at the moment.

He's put up what, what's his last?

9451, 1290.

His last five to six weeks have been excellent and kind of not getting the kudos, I think,

because you know, like ports or when people talk about ports, it's about Rosie, but as Horn

Francis, you know, Oli Wands from that classic point of view, but he's low key putting together

hell of a season.

Yeah, no, the real breakout year that people aren't probably paying enough attention

to, but the people that listen to this podcast would know about it.

The smartest listeners in Finns and Football.

Exactly.

Let's move on to the Colton vs Gold Coast Suns game.

Didn't see a second of this because it was on at the same time, but just a few thoughts,

feelings and emotions about some of the scores.

Tom DeConning had 12 points.

It's just proof of what happens when pit net is back.

Do you think if Jace Burgoyne was fit, that he even be playing the two rights?

Because it feels like they're playing the conning is that they need him as that third

tall up forwards.

And my question leads into is DeConning someone should be buying low on because once

he comes back, they'll kind of play him forward.

And I think DeConning is going to be the number one rucking 2025.

But doesn't pit net have like the best hit out to advantage ratio or something like that?

He does.

And they're actually going, well, they were kind of going quite well as a two stringer.

He does, but yeah, well, they started in about round four, three or four I think it was.

So they started the year, obviously, back in Tom DeConning in.

And he was going, I really think that the reason why he's coming in, pinnets come in is just

because they needed another forward option.

So yeah, my thoughts are just if Savady comes back next year, we could see DeConning number

one.

Let's hope that he plays enough for his status at some stage three this year as well.

That's one thing.

I think that's hard to conning, shown enough that he's going to be a genuine future prospect.

I think maybe this time last year he was flandering a bit and wasn't delivering on some

of that hype, whereas I think 12 months on, right now he's actually looking like a genuine

player.

I don't hate that call.

Yeah, I'd be going after him.

It's just that the guy who owns him in L.E. is top of the ladder and I think he's banking

on that four status as well.

So I don't think I'd get it.

Maybe I might have given Max gone.

It's not a bad shout out.

If that's what the way you're going, I think that might be a little bit over, but yeah,

you know, yeah, we've got a choke.

Wouldn't spin it somehow.

Yeah, you might be able to get something else back with that.

Maybe a draft pick too.

No, no, not the best worst option.

He does have Sean Darcy, and if you're listening.

Yeah.

I already camped 94 points.

I'm a broken record, but I love this guy.

It just pops up every second or third week with a good score.

I think with, I would say, Keith had been wittering out.

He kind of just, like he's a big contested marker player as well.

So he'd be like encouraged to fly and take those contested marks as well.

So I think he'll rack up a few of them.

He's been great.

He's just, his low scores aren't that low.

Like he's really good flawless here.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, just go through it.

Every second week seems to be an 80-win learning.

Yeah, he's been really good.

And Mitch McGovern had 93 points.

He raised more highlight like this is just because he had 20 disposal, but 18 of those were

by foot.

So even though he is a Tauley, he doesn't really play like a key, but he's got a decent disposal

line that he does useable, kind of like his brother, I guess, then they use the footy by foot

a lot and they can take a heap of marks too.

You've got nine in this game.

So he takes two cats, every now and then.

That's true.

Yep, that's true.

So he's another one to look at.

Lucky Cowan is on the list too, because 91 points, but he was just one of my favourites

from his draft class.

And I think it was just, it's just great to see him get a run off the half-back.

Yes, it's probably at the expense of a few.

He injuries this season, but it's nonetheless.

It's still good to see him.

Same Williams as a forward now.

Yeah, well that's true, but I'm seeing him more like docking, you know, then side of, side

was his sideback, or was he still like, I can't remember if I didn't say this game, but

yeah, there's been a few this season that I've led to him playing just good to see him put

up scores.

Oliver, the Holland's boys in general, both of them.

So I've got them both here.

You own Oliver?

I own Elijah.

Elijah, so you say 86 points for Holland's, but I didn't think he'd be a score, but

I'm starting to change my thoughts about Oliver.

Like I thought he's just going to be pure outside type, but he's actually got a few cent

about his tenets throughout the year, and he looks like he does probably have a bit of

an inside game at times.

So I'm starting to warm to Oliver Holland's, and I've got a larger Holland's here, 79

points, 16 cent about his tenets this week, and I think that was his biggest intake for

the year.

I'll just get that up here.

I think it's kind of easy for you.

53%.

He had a really hard draft pick to go coast off the back of doing his knee, and did his knee

again, I think.

So I missed, however, before he when he was young, and that was put there on COVID time, obviously

didn't get it.

He was like, "COVID draft class, but no one saw this play as well."

And didn't get a good run under Strui Zhu.

Obviously had his Mr. Meiner in the off season, and he's taken some time to get back into

it at Colton, but obviously he's got talent.

Like he was a top ten draft pick, I'm pretty sure off the top of my head.

He's just another one that started to turn me, because like, Cosy was picked up in

that COVID year.

I was just thinking like, they've cooked this one, or like, they've cooked a lot of those

draft picks that my mind thought was, because no one really got to see him play properly,

and they had to make an assessment, and I felt like they were just guessing.

But no, he's definitely changed my opinion the more I see him.

So I think he's got talent.

Just needs to, I think, you know, this time next year he might be flying.

Yeah, so do I.

Oh, this guy, Mack Andrew 86 points.

This guy just takes intercept marks for fun.

Like he's so athletic.

I heard today he's got a three meter, three and a half meter leap or something like

that.

Yeah, yeah, no.

So you can, you can jump three and a half meters in the air, which is massive.

He's just such an athlete.

But what's great about him is, well, apparently, I didn't see this game, but he went into the

ruck apparently, and people saying that cost him the game, because he was taking off Kuno

who was goalless at the time, and then Kuno kicked three goals after he went into the

ruck.

Well, he was a ruck man in his junior year.

And like, the reason why I was so high in a few weeks ago is because he was playing

that set off back, while taking grabs, and then going into the ruck and playing like

a midfielder, like, I don't think he won any heat out when he was in there, but was just able

to follow the ball around and kind of work and, you know, do clearances and things like

that.

They're also really good at the little chippy, chippy around the back 50.

Yeah.

And like, he actually gets involved for a big man quite often, which obviously leads to

those nice plus sixes, which we love.

Yeah, no, I'm loving Mack Andrew the moment.

Yeah, so enough back can take grabs and also just run around like a midfielder when he's

in the guise of a ruck status next to you would be delicious.

Yeah, that would be nice.

Alex sexton, 81 points.

I thought he'd go bigger with Flanders out, but maybe he just needs to be fed the ball.

Trust it, I mean, Bob and Ian Gameday squad, and he let me down.

Yeah, I had him in as well, actually.

He's probably too good for the podcast as a forward though.

I just don't see him coming out of the side.

Like, will power comes back, but like a few weeks to go.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Like, I just, I say, I'm in for Matt Boderer, he can't get a game.

I think he was injured for a little bit or can get a concussion thing for a bit, and

then, yeah, hasn't really done much since.

See Brad and Fear any on the weekend?

Good job.

I got dropped and did his thing in the VFL.

Just got like a million touches in the night.

That's too nice.

Yeah, 138, I think it was in the VFL.

Probably played as an inside mid as well, not a winger.

I don't know why they do that when they drop them back, don't play them in the normal position,

but anyway.

Jolong cats versus the Jito-S giant, sorry, a bit of this one.

I've got Zach Tui here.

There's just nothing to talk about from Jolong at the moment.

They're really disappointment.

Do you know who Ryan Anglin is?

I heard the name, but I just don't actually know.

I think it was an outside winger type.

But yeah, Ryan Anglin had 93 points in Zach Tui had eight nine points, and they were playing

on each other apparently.

So I think it was just probably a day where the wingers could do what they want.

I guess the biggest thing going on, GWS, and yeah, mentioned Anglin, with 93 points with

Josh Kelly out as kind of a life-like role.

But can you, Leo, came off with a shoulder, some like that?

And I haven't heard any news on it today, but my question is just who steps in for him?

I had Daniela starting a few CBAs in the last few weeks.

Pete Ling came in when he was out previously.

Finn Callahan was the biggest bump this week, I think, stepping in.

What are your thoughts as to who takes over?

Fucking Neili.

They've actually got a few injury issues as well.

Callon Ward missed because he was sick and pretty sure.

So, it's a manhead who could be a straight back in operation.

Yeah, like, coming ash, they're all injured.

So it's going to be interesting to see who does.

I love to see Brent Daniela's get a proper crack at it.

I don't know how they're playing this week, but it would be good to see him have a

genuinely crack.

I think they have a buy, actually.

So that probably doesn't help things because I've got Tom Green.

Well, then my classic team.

Yeah.

That's a good buy-us.

Don't worry.

The week after, though, if can you, Leo, is still out.

But yeah, I think Brent Daniela said 44% of CBAs last week, eight this week.

So, yeah.

Next one is, yeah, Jay Riccati just tipped with the cat with the four goals there.

Nick Haynes is the interesting one.

He's actually two for the podcast now, but just takes so many marks and defense.

And he was like ripping it up in the VFL and then I don't think he's gone on the

80s since coming back to that.

But he was like dead and buried.

Yeah.

I thought he was gone too long ago.

But yeah, so that's another one just to think about.

If he's probably worth picking up on a wave war, just quickly side note this remind me.

Zach Tui was special comments on ABC.

And he was, he was sensational.

Yeah.

I really like him.

He really, really good.

Yeah, I've been listening to a fair bit lately as well.

Yeah, really good special comments on him.

See, he's definitely got a career.

Oh, totally.

He's commentary up first.

He's like, he's insight is actually really, really good and really balanced.

Yeah, and he gives like good insight of like as well, like what's it like to be a new player,

especially like, you know, and then from his point of view of like coming to the country

and not really knowing the game very well and then into like an actual genuine style,

he can kind of comment on what it's like for players that all angles type thing as well,

which is really good.

Yeah, I love him.

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Let's keep going on with the round review.

Your boy is the bombers.

How do you feel about these as the most?

Second on the ladder.

So it's funny you asked that this morning, my daughter woke up at 4 o'clock and was forced

to just kind of sit around and do not march.

And I thought, actually, I'm going to do the ladder predictor.

And I have us finishing 10th.

10th?

Now, this is actually quite funny because last year around this time, you told me the bombers

wouldn't lose the game for the rest of the season.

And I think that was a bit of facetia in that, but we had port coming up and you actually,

we only beat you a bike, I kick off the sign.

We'll beat port, we'll beat this team.

And I think that was a bit of facetia, but you still had yourselves finishing top eight last

year when you probably weren't going as well.

And now what's changing your attitude this year?

So you've figured out, you've got to win 13 games to make the eight this year.

Yeah.

And we've got a pretty tough run home.

I think the only kind of easy beat is West Coast.

Yeah.

And then we've got like, crows, saints.

You beat the crows.

You beat the crows.

You beat Gov.

Free man, all that kind of like four or like carbon.

There's a lot of 50, 50 games.

Yeah.

So I think we might only win four when we need to win five coming home.

Oh, I was a little poor.

So this is very much pessimistic.

Pesimistic in me.

I think I've got port finishing seventh, they're reckon.

Yeah, I'm going to say we have a pretty tough run home.

And in my way, there's only like a game between second and third and eighth kind of thing.

It's pretty tight.

Do you have your ladder predictor still on your computer?

You don't need it now.

I've just got it right here.

I've had a bit of an idea, but yeah.

Okay.

I've got a lot of dirt off the shirt, but anyway.

All right.

So let's, let's, let's start some players from this game.

So why have you, have you written, don't play any SNM players?

Was that me?

You've written that.

I don't know.

I maybe just, I don't have no idea what I meant by that.

But anyway, can McCallough have had 65 points?

Hoping he gets more opportunity in the future because there's just like so many injuries

and things like that.

But here are the 10 CBAs, but they're kind of forced into playing them.

Yeah.

I think that's fine.

They've got to rebuild completely like their shot.

So you manage to trust, I think, give Sansi, give McCallough chances.

Don't give Thompson down many chances because I don't think he's that good, but experiment

stuff.

He's got nothing to lose.

Yeah.

100% of it.

So he'll hopper and Toronto range.

Yeah.

And I think Toronto's back pretty soon, but like, came McCallough is like kind of inside

body that they, they need to develop as well.

So I'm, and yeah, as long as the other ones can like, stay fit, which isn't probably

going to happen.

So they're probably going to need him a bit more.

But yeah.

Yeah.

On to the bombers players, though.

Nick Hind had 110 points.

Halfback, but push forward.

And then kick two goals.

That's a typical.

Good acting.

There's anything there.

No.

I think he's actually just like a super sub.

Yeah.

That's his role because he runs and dashes and he could play a full game, could play a quarter.

He's at that age where he doesn't really matter what he's doing.

I just don't think there's safety in picking him, due to his sub ability.

I just don't get what's happened to making, because he's a back-to-back, good scores, but

I just don't know like what's happened to make him score this well.

Like, hepple was he gone up to the wing to replace Doorsmar?

Like what?

Hope so, and you kick goals.

Yeah, too good.

But still that would have been still a 90 plus score again.

He's just like, he's turning himself into a really good utility.

Like he can play forward, can play back.

Yeah.

Which a lot of people don't necessarily have that skill set.

Yeah.

And yeah, he's got them a chewer body.

Or would it be like 20s now?

So I think he's just like a handy sub, like everything that's his role.

Yeah, okay.

Yeah, no, I wasn't sure.

Just like he looks, he's looked impressive last two weeks and then like, yeah, would you take

Doorsmar back into the side over him?

Oh, I definitely take Doorsmar back into the side.

I think it provides a bit more, especially like overhead.

And probably better ball use maybe.

Like, Iron is a very good kick, but probably more from that.

More of a run and dash.

Run and dash, yeah.

Like as opposed to hitting some.

Improving.

Yeah, so I think Iron is in the best 23.

I don't know if he's the same the best 22.

Yeah, okay.

Interesting.

Sam Durham though.

How many shares do you have in Sam Durham?

And are they going to the moon?

I don't know if I am.

I have one.

I've got to be more like a man crush man love thing as opposed to like he's a fan and see

me.

I'm in just more so how much do you rate this guy?

Oh, yeah, I was hoping that the Carlton Draft would have a t-shirt of him, but I don't

think they do.

Oh, he put that through.

They've got to come up with a dozen.

They could do something with Dury's.

They're totally love-wise.

I was thinking of making a show in my own.

Yeah, yeah.

If he next time I come on.

I message them.

They've been in contact with them once before something.

I've got an avenue.

Well, one I don't know why there's no Ben K's one.

Like surely the K's.

Yeah, that doesn't make sense.

Yeah, that's so.

Maybe it's because two Victorians sent you, but that doesn't make sense for Don't.

Yeah, like they.

Oh, don't we see.

Yeah, yeah.

So I'm going to go on to him.

But yeah, and I would buy what's and so would Dossy.

So do you think that'll be a like a time where he's too good for the podcast?

Because the fantasy scoring is so up and down with him because he's so inside.

Yeah, I don't know.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens even where he plays when like a set of field

comes back.

If set of field comes back, I was still got a fit parish in there set of food in there who's

been pretty good this year.

You know, like, um, Durham's been playing that inside.

So as dry cold well, who's been pretty in processances that back in there.

So we finally got a few inside players, which we've lacked for a bit.

So I suppose the beauty with Durham is he could just slot back onto a wing and be pretty

handy there too.

But I love what he offers in there in the midfield just a pure hunk of man.

Well, speaking of wing is you got Doss and Apple in your side at three points here.

Just turning back the clock a bit this year.

Yeah, I didn't handle those 20 disposal as well.

So it could have been big.

What are your thoughts on him as a biolo for a contender would you do it?

I have in one of my legs.

Yeah, I traded out, unfortunately, the week before really came back.

But I traded out really for Hepple and Dusty.

Okay.

So I kind of just kind of like, you know, well, I've lost a potentially 130 average

player.

I like it.

You know, I picked up kind of two 80 85's in two tough lines.

Yeah.

I think he's worth a play because he's just playing a really pretty friendly role.

Like he's not, you know, he's not bumping out 50s and 60s like he was a couple years ago.

Like he's just, he's 80 and you're going to get that each week and there's some safety

in that when you're contending.

One who's going to an L.A.

Might make a play.

A large assardous 61 points.

He missed the first quarter because he only came on through Cox's injury.

So basically two of your best wingers out injured at the moment.

Do you think this paves the way for Sardas to get a few games consistently?

I'd be nice too.

I still don't think his body is quite ready.

He's still quite small.

So that's where like, say, I think Cox has actually said it's fine like he just had an eagle.

So that's good.

Hopefully he does.

Well, that's not too far away.

But yeah, I'd love to see Sardas get a bit more of a go, but I think more realistically,

depending on who comes back in that midfielder, whether it's a Durham, who goes back on

to a wing because he's got that side of his game too.

I don't think they're going to push Durham outside of the middle.

They would have done it by now.

I feel...

When Sardas feel comes back, it would be the big test, I think.

Do they even play Sardas feel, though?

Sardas feel was really good to start this year.

Yeah, I know.

And he's that bigger soul.

Like he's a bigger dude than Durham is too.

Yeah, he's a taller.

Yeah, but I'm not a man.

Durham's tough as.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't want to fucking...

I think Sardas though, yeah, he's got the talent.

He sometimes just looks a little bit panicky when he's got the ball.

I think he just comes down to body.

He's still a lean dude.

Yeah, yeah.

Another preseason in the German.

He'll be ready to go next year.

You're going to be like a will-day type once he kind of feels out of it more.

We'll play.

We're talking about that next year.

He looks good at the moment.

He's super for the podcast.

Yeah, I know, but like, way too good.

Man, he's come back.

Oh, I thought I said it just because the winger who needed to fill out once he did turn into

a midfielder.

Yeah, well...

Even like Jordan Dawson was never based when he kind of started out too.

He was kind of that half, you know, lean-ish, half back and then, you know, Friday's

way in the midfielder.

I think...

Don't give me status.

I think Sardas is going to do that.

Don't give me status.

Don't give me status.

I'm doing Dawson.

Every time that guy takes one of those big...

Yeah, I think Dawson did hit him out.

I think this is...

Surely.

Anyway, Hawthorne vs. Brisbane.

Massimo, 98 points.

The reason why I actually am kind of excited, which, you know, he's put up some good scores

in the past, but he went back to defense this week when they tried Jarth up on the

wing and they got a win.

So like, he's always been so much better.

Well, this season's been better when he's been playing off that half back line.

So just to flag, hopefully he can maintain that for the next few weeks, but yeah, on the

wing, it's pretty gross.

Half back lines are different story, though.

Jack Ginnivan, 83 points.

He's averaging 68 this season, so...

He's been very good.

He's getting close to that 70 average and, you know, 70 is a handy from any forward this

season.

So if he's a balled on a wavewire or whatever, he's probably one just so he can pick

up and rely on for...

He's got a low floor as well.

Like, it's usually around 50, 60, I think.

I love the pick because he seems to be getting a lot more involved.

He's working fairly well.

Yeah.

Yeah, Hawthorne as he was against...

As he was for, sorry, the pies.

Yeah.

And Kyle Lohman, 98 points.

Are we getting excited about this guy?

Because he's played Richmond and then he's played Hawthorne.

Even though the loss to Hawthorne still not like the greatest matchup.

Are we getting excited about him?

Or...

I don't think he's as good as his scores are suggesting, but I do think there's a

bit of a future there because I think he's got really good...

And, goal sense and reads the game pretty well.

And he seems to get himself in the right spots like some of the places that he takes a

mark inside for at 50, like they're in genuine, dangerous position.

So he's putting himself in the right spot.

So I think that's a big tick.

But yeah, I just don't know if we can trust the goal scoring that he's doing at the moment

either.

Yeah.

You did say that, but like, they lost to Hawthorne.

So like, you know, it's...

I don't know.

He's interesting.

I think he's one to follow.

For me, he's just the swagger about him.

Kind of like...

I don't know.

Like, these swagger type plays, I would've said the same thing about Jack Ginevin, like what...

Like, in fantasy, they're never going to be that big, they're more like the flashy kind

of, you know, quality of a quantity type thing.

But I don't know.

There's something to it, if you can keep both goals, it's just that, yeah, with Brisbane

going backwards, I thought it was a bit more to him than Ginevin.

Yeah.

But maybe not as much.

Yeah.

Moving on to the Melbourne vs. St. Cudegame.

So Tomlinson came in for Leaver, and then he had 88 points.

Had a huge first quarter, I think it was like six-yup points in the first quarter, something

like that, 50 plus at least.

But he hasn't played since Round 1, so it's probably just...

He's probably banging out some huge scores in the VFL.

Just take 'em, Marks.

Yeah.

So two with the cap for now, but just watch, see what happens there.

Because like both of those, Keeta fans like Leaver and Mate have been pretty awesome.

Yeah.

Matee has all signed up on the week, and he's been taking a lot of grabs.

And then, they kicked each other a lot too.

Alex Neil Bullen is another interesting one.

So 88 points, he's just getting a lot of midfield time at the moment.

So, how do 11 CBAs on the weekend?

And I think over the last three weeks, we've seen like Salem go in there, then Salem go out,

then Sparrow go in there, then Sparrow.

Then like each one of those just doesn't get a cent about to 10, it's the following week.

Whereas Neil Bullen has been like 30% over the last, I think it's been 40% over the last

three or something like that.

So yeah, I'm just liking that consistency, and then midfield a little bit more, and

then midfield hasn't been popping too much.

But truckers just getting covered each week.

All of us kind of just showing the effects of not having a preseason, really.

Vines probably been the best one.

Well, in terms of fantasy anyway, fantasy out the three of them, they need someone else

to go in there.

It looks like Neil Bullen is the more consistently the guy at the moment.

Would you, what do you think?

Yeah, I do, I think so.

And I think he's the guy that's never been released at four status, too.

So like, in a weird way, easy almost kind of like a Toby Green-ish, you know, when,

like last year, you know, like we always have a few CBAs, we'll always kind of push forward,

likely you could go each game.

Can Link can play midfield?

He's a bit more a few strings to his bow, which is quite what's just why I quite like him.

If you own Toby Green, would you offer him up for Neil Bullen knowing that he's got more

of a midfield role than Green does at the moment?

Green stinking this year.

Just saying not, not keeper.

I just want to win the flag this year, the best possible option.

Who would you take for those two?

The issue is I feel I think that Green's just kind of got that expected.

That's going to win your flag.

Sometimes you say name on your team sheet just looks, it just scares the lawn, it scares

other coaches off.

Yeah, I know you mean, but they're getting pretty close in terms of the way they're playing,

the way they score when they're in their best as well.

So yeah, plus the age difference would be a win for you if you did end up with Neil

Bullen.

I don't think Neil Bullen will regress either.

I think Green may have peaked, which is the issue.

Yeah, interesting.

The other one's paddy day.

What do you think about paddy day?

Any interest here, Kays?

Huge pass.

Well, you know, 21, 81 points, 21 disposal.

Few players in the two looking around those, that right?

Well, Brad Crouch has pumped out his second tongue, so he'd assume he'd be back and they

got to buy this week, probably, but no, they were the last buy.

So I think Brad Crouch has to come back in.

Who has played Hunter Clark, played on the weekend.

Zach Jones.

Yeah, yeah, no.

He's just going to heap with guys around there.

I think as soon as Crouch comes back in, he's kind of out.

What's your thoughts on Hunter Clark, though?

Do you reckon he was one of the players that Bebo just said, "Ah, with that Bebo, that's

40 in sleep, that Ross the boss just didn't like?"

Do you think?

Potentially.

Because he just got dropped after having big games last year and stuff like that.

He's always had injury issues, which is always kind of slowed him down too.

But he remember last year, he'd score 100 in the midfield and then got drops.

Well, the next week, that sort of stuff.

So some weird things going on.

Tim Amber kick six on the weekend.

You know, Mattayas filipose just rotting away.

Yeah, he's going to come back to us, apparently.

But there's just, it's crazy.

Yeah.

What's going on at St. Cudder?

We've won a last game of the round where it's, I watch my boy Jordan Dawson just go to

town and destroy my opponent, Pogs.

Or even St. Ben King.

I don't think he has a mention this week.

What?

The B2G, or P, anyway.

No.

These are just one of those guys that, like you just expect to pop up every few weeks,

it's just like, you're forever mentioning him.

But in this game, both wingers went mental.

So 124 points to show.

And then 98 points to chase Joe.

And so maybe just monitor wings against West Coast over the next few weeks and just see if

they're a streamable option in those games, because they're playing on, what's the winging

of Jordan Hunt?

And is it Hunt?

Yeah.

And the other one I can't remember who's on the other wing.

But yeah, just see what happens on those matchups.

Mark Keane had 95 points.

He did this for like a few months ago where he had like, back to back nine.

He was never on his, tell us we had to get on board and people would trade him in

classic and all that sort of stuff.

Went back to 40s and 50s.

I just don't get excited about Mark Keane.

He's an untrustworthy set off back.

Really underrated player in real football though.

Like been a great figure.

He's not underrated.

But he would have won from through 600 grand to getting back.

Oh really?

Yeah.

Maybe not.

Doesn't make a sense to me.

Yeah.

Got to tie him in the first place.

Yeah.

A greater rookie pick up from the cries.

Does he foggy 92 points?

I think scoring wise, he's too good for the players.

No, he's not.

I don't know.

He's trash.

He's got a big score.

He had a big game in the showdown.

He did not have a friend or a good score.

Oh, there must have been one in there, I've missed.

I'm just off the top of my head.

I know he went big in the showdown last week.

92, 54 last week.

I don't even know.

92, 65.

Yeah.

62, 19, 51, 39.

You don't know what you get.

The first half of the season was shit.

But it wasn't three of the last four of been like 84 seven days back.

He's kicked a lot of goals last few weeks.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm saying.

I probably would have won me the game actually.

Easy back.

I can be casting more now.

Is he taking the load off text a bit more score if you more goals?

Well, they play Hawthorne this week, which is a great match up for him.

And then Richmond.

So there's two juicy matchups coming.

I've got them in my shiver team and I've filled in him this week and I'll probably keep

streaming him over the next few weeks.

So yeah, no, I'm pretty happy with them at the moment.

Just might be a cheap pick up if you're really good.

Yeah, really good way to play.

And then, did you see him break Limeron's ankles as well?

No.

He did like a little size difference.

It was crazy.

It was for a big man to do it.

And then the only thing is Harley Reid.

Like, there's so much hype about this guy.

I only scored 50 points.

He's a jet, but he can't fantasy yet.

I think he's going to be massive in fantasy, not in that side.

Yeah, well, maybe not, but I think just once he starts just picking up the volume of what

he's doing now.

And like, he's going to be the player that just wanted to get the ball in his hands.

Like, a lot of people pre-says in saying you should pick up my coach him because Rhee's

not going to be, you know, that going to be a good, I think he's going to be equally

as good going forward.

But he's just not a fantasy player yet.

He's just not putting up the scores.

He just think he's gettable in fantasy.

Like, trades in keyplates.

I think maybe he would be a lot of rickian.

If the owner doesn't watch a lot of 40 and just looks at scores, maybe, but if you're watching

40, you can just see this kid something special.

So yeah, it depends on who owns him.

I think in our league, he's a crow supporter, so probably doesn't watch him any other

things.

So whatever.

Yeah.

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Thank you to those supporters of the podcast.

Let's finish it off with the listener questions.

We've already talked about this.

Bears Bar, what do we see the market value of Lloyd being at the moment for both contending

and rebuilding teams?

Or are we just better off riding him out?

So rebuilding team, you'd try to be rid of him, wouldn't you?

Totally.

Try to ride this high of scoring.

For a contending team though, I reckon you ride it out as well.

I think you've got to because he, as much as I pretend I don't like him, he's sealing

is huge.

But there's nothing stopping him going on, 1,2,1,30 when it matters towards the back end of

the season.

He's 31, ended this year.

He's not going to fail.

He's not going to just completely disappear into the netter, but there's going to be guys

who naturally just, you know, rode the Roberts or the Lizard or whoever, they'll pick up

some of that slack over time.

But yeah, I don't think he's...

I think if it was me, I had him in my side.

I'd be trying to trade him out while he's still got some value.

But yeah, if he's you, you're not getting it in him.

Yeah, no, I think so.

But yeah, even like, even from that, those 87 average, since that time we rode him off,

I think there's been three or four hundred in that time as well.

So there's been some low scores in the real sea hundreds, only when there's small scores

that I see them in.

Well, the funny thing is, it was the SCJ factor until this week.

So every time he didn't play the SCJ, he would score a hundred, essentially.

And when he went to SCJ, he'd score 50s, but he put up a 90, seven at the SCJ.

I think he did put up 24 points in the last minute or two minutes.

That's ridiculous.

Yeah, like it was ridiculous.

Just three little, six, three.

Super rounds, you know, plus six is in the last two minutes of the game.

Perex, are we already taught with this one?

Paddy Dough, that's a no for Paddy Dough.

I don't think it's worth picking him up.

Obviously they're playing this week, I think, so now I would actually wait until teams

come out because I think if Crouch comes back.

Yeah.

And then Crouch is in the bevore realm of, you know,

Paddy Dough seems to be a player that he would like, though, I think.

Like the inside guy, not pretty, but it does like whatever I tell him to do type thing.

The thing is that is, Paddy Dough's VFL scores, this year, haven't been massive either.

Yeah.

Like they've been fine.

Yeah.

It depends what year, I suppose if you get him off the way, the way you're not hoping

is going to be an M1 or something like that.

But if you need him for an M7, maybe.

That's, yeah, I don't know.

Definitely not convinced.

I'm not convinced he's best 22 for the remainder of the season type thing.

Has that said that Crouch got, I kept tweeting about him since he left?

Doughsy.

Not sure.

I haven't heard too much about Doughsy.

He's been a bit quieter on the socials.

I think it's some sort of meteor agreement with the new job.

He takes his, he's agreements with his work very seriously.

Corporate Doughsy calls himself.

At Milny, underscore AFF, he's pumped for the OG lineup.

This should be.

He's wondering if Ben Hobbs is proving to be a tough hold.

Is he a cut at the end of the season?

I've been disappointed with Hobbs as an S&F fan.

I've been in a bit slow.

Not giving the first give.

Trying to take on a little bit too much.

I don't know if that's just him adjusting to the AFF speed of things, but he probably

should know a little bit better by now.

Because we touched number four, like Parachet of Field, Dersmar, you know, like there's

a few guys still out that line up.

Perkins is kind of comes in and out of games.

Hobbs does too.

If he's, I think you got to, I think you got to write him out for this year.

And I think if he goes into next year with DPP, he'd be a hold.

But say he loses forward status and he's mid only, or something like that.

Yeah.

I think it's a cut.

Because like he's out like part of the question is Sam Doughram, the main barrier to

his clear run.

But like Sam Doughram's, what's he?

23?

Yeah, he's still young as well.

And I know that what he, Hobbs, the issue is like Merit and Parachet are the two best midfielders

there.

And they're not old either.

So like it's not like, you know, your Hobbs or your Sardis or your Perkins, just going to

be like, I'm leapfrogging these guys.

That's not happening.

If the room is a true and this is Aaron Bryan saying this last week, the S in, I want to

target another midfielder and his offseason, could he potentially be someone you use as

capital for a trade?

Hobbs.

Yeah.

And Dough pick, you've got Doughram doing the exact same role, you've got Sardis coming,

they can play that forward kind of wing role.

I think Hobbs or probably Perkins would be another one.

Perkins hasn't had an amazing year.

Yeah.

These kids are young and they're serviceable and like, you know, you look at a guy like Parachet

who will wilder find his feet like.

Yeah.

They could all end up being someone as good as Darcy Parachet, sure.

But I think just the difference between Hobbs and Parachet, Perkins is that what kind

of caliber of player is Bryan's talking about?

I'm not really sure, but, but yes, it was probably the first I've heard of it.

But more so that, yeah, Ben Hobbs could be the one he actually seeks to trade.

And if that does happen, then he might be more than serviceable.

Yeah, definitely.

He's definitely not getting the role he needs because he's, you know, a bit more in and

under by the looks and he's a strong unit.

Yeah.

Probably just needs a team that needs a team that he's not going to be able to keep him

out of the moment.

So that might be a downers playing great for you.

Yeah, exactly.

At G.S.S.S.O.s, 16, who would you rather have for the rest of the season?

So if you had to pick one between Sexton, Boughton, Coldwell, Powell and more Dylan.

Yeah, it seems Dylan.

Yeah, Dylan more.

I actually thought of consistency.

I actually thought about bringing him into my classic team this week because I need to

do something with Powell on the bar.

Yeah, I'll have more.

It's more do I trust Hawthorne?

He seems to play better on Hawthorne's shitter as well.

Dylan more always kicks a goal.

Yeah.

He has a headband on at some point because he's got a tough peel and got split open.

Yeah.

Now his, his floor is just really high.

Yeah.

Sexton, I'm worried about Powell coming back eventually.

They've got, and then, yeah, Flanders on there as well.

Boughton's a robbery at Stuckford because there's no one else that can do any magic

up there for him.

For his classic quality of a Contrary, an amazing player, but like, the stuff he does doesn't

always bring.

Coldwell.

Coldwell is going to have Parish and, you know, a few other places.

Instead of Field coming back in, they're going to play with the Coldwell this season,

but I don't trust him.

He's a 70 and 80 type guy as I don't trust him.

80 and 90 type guy.

Yeah.

How does it get Stuckford more, can score as a forward, so does it really matter if he

gets stuck for me every now and then?

Yeah, I'm taking more with that as well.

It's a tough list though.

I definitely, Coldwell like, Sexton like as well.

From a keeper point of view, I don't have all of them except Sexton.

Yeah.

Well, they're one of Sexton.

Because I don't actually think he's best 22.

Yeah, I think they're fully fit and everything's going and not banned for being homophobic

idiots.

Yeah.

They probably is probably not in their best 22.

At Jordox 2020, where do you see Rivers at the moment regarding role and scoring potential?

His scoring isn't bad, but I'm hoping for him to start going 80 plus a bit more, have held

him for a few years now and keen to see him go to another level as the resident Rivers owner

in our league case.

I'm going to leave this one to you.

What do you see him doing at the moment and what's his potential?

I think that is him at the moment.

Melbourne are an interesting side, like someone like Salem.

This year's either been going feast or famine.

Rivers has seen some pick up when Salem has been out, but then has it always said not.

A lot of the stuff that's been happening there hasn't always equated to common sense from

a fantasy point of view, I feel.

Rivers is an incredibly good footballer, but I kind of get the feeling he's never going

to be a tongue.

I think he's an 80 average defender, which is fine, serviceable.

So not quite Jake Lloyd-Cullber, but no, no, definitely not premium Jake Lloyd.

But no, I like him as a player.

I don't think there's a world where he's like a 1995, especially just with how the

D's play.

We talk about May, sorry, May, Leaver, Salem.

They do chip in market a bit around there, but there's also a lot of guys who are really

good by foot and don't always need rivers with the ball in hand if that makes sense.

Yep, I'll trust your opinion on that as the rivers expert.

One more question, like question in.

When is hef going to be announced as a play in the Dive 12 Rezzees game?

Good question.

I may have already suggested a check as an AMK in the play, but didn't get the call

up so far.

So the rap platens in, the shipmates, boys are in.

All the other, those guys in fairness, all of those guys have a fair few more followers

than May, so I mean, I'm a ticktox blown up.

Yeah, it's blown up for my standards as a mid 30s, late 30s, male, but there's literally

no one at like, you are a Seagrade captain.

Yeah, probably you're probably one of the most well-credential plays, but also,

also, Mitch Robertson's plays.

So I don't think, you know, you have to be a genuine Seagraddy.

These are AFL players.

I thought I was going to say kind of too hard nuts in them.

You and Mitch Roberts and we'll each other out.

Well, look, I'll put it to the listeners if the listeners want to see me playing in the Dive

12 Rezzees match.

I think it's next week, so it's next week.

It's next week?

I think so.

It's next week, the long weekend?

Two weeks away, it's tough.

Yeah, so people actually want to see me hit up checkers, start complaining that I'm not

in the team and I will see what happens next.

The biggest man in AFL fantasy football.

Like, it's not called a Hollywood heaven, I really think that's as relevant in their

circles, but anyway, let's wrap it up from there.

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Yeah, and I feel like TKLK's on Twitter.

Yeah, thanks for coming in.

Good to see you again.

It's always great to be in the studio.

I've got you your Keep Lee hoodie.

Can't wait to wear that next time.

Not sure if it's done.

Big enough to go over those huge shoulders of yours, but hopefully it fits.

Betta, yeah, anyways, we'll stop talking shit and we'll talk to you next week.

Absolute pleasure.

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