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A relatable and honest podcast about the highs and lows of being a youth hockey parent. Join us as we share real stories, struggles, and wins from the rink, offering insights and support for parents navigating the world of youth hockey.
This is for the sled dogs in the trenches. Real hockey parents, real stories. The Good and the Gong Show. No filters, no sugarcoating, no politics, just straight hockey talk, and the best guests around the barn. Welcome to the Crazy Hockey Dads Podcast.
Intro:Alright, boys. Grind them corners, chirp responsibly, and bring that savage fire.
Scott:Alright, everybody. Welcome back to another edition, this time in Lake Placid edition of the Crazy Hockey Dads Podcast.
Jamie:That's right.
Scott:On location.
Jamie:I was gonna say live, but not live. Recorded No. From It was recorded live. Recorded live on location from the lovely boardroom at the Mirror Lake Inn in Lake Placid, New York. Good.
Jamie:Now it's your first time here. No?
Scott:No. It's my well, at the Mirror Lincoln, yes. Second time in Lake Placid.
Jamie:Sorry. That's right.
Scott:First time as an adult. I was here as a kid, played on the rank of 1980. Right. And I remember that was the first time I played teams from Canada and we got smoked, but whatever. It was still a tremendous experience coming up here and just being a part of it.
Jamie:Yeah. So you haven't been ever since you're 14?
Scott:Probably about that. The the rink then was still the Olympic size sheet. It was the international sheet. That's right. Remember just being, like, blown away and, like how much further the puck carried into the corners.
Jamie:A lot of ice to cover?
Scott:There was more ice. It was noticeable.
Jamie:Yeah. Especially as a defenseman walking that blue line thing that never ends.
Scott:Listen, I was in when I was 14, I was definitely not walking any blue lines. Fair. Fair. So I think it had less to do with the increased ice size and more to do with my
Jamie:overall Wind capacity?
Scott:My my general
Jamie:Overall fitness? Preparedness and fitness. Fair. Okay. Listen.
Jamie:So what what is your your but it's first time up for your kids and your wife. No?
Scott:Yes. It What
Jamie:do they think of the place?
Scott:Oh, they think it's great.
Jamie:I mean,
Scott:it's been it's it's been a total treat.
Jamie:Their skiers are
Scott:gonna I'm gonna move over a little
Jamie:bit. No. I've got some more.
Scott:Situation still kinda figuring some stuff
Jamie:out. Yeah.
Scott:Yeah. That's But
Jamie:It's a work in progress.
Scott:Yeah. It's Everything's a work
Jamie:in progress. Life is a work in progress.
Scott:Yeah. Is.
Jamie:Yeah. That's for sure. But,
Scott:yeah. Listen. I this was the it's it's such a nice, small, quaint town with, like, loads of sporting winter sporting history.
Jamie:Mhmm.
Scott:I mean, we have the Can Am tournament.
Jamie:Yeah. We got
Scott:the ECAC going on. Yeah. There's families and kids everywhere. Mhmm. There's, you know, the lake's frozen.
Scott:There's dog sledding.
Jamie:Yeah. Isn't there like a cross country champ cross country championships? Something's
Scott:going There could be. Wherever it's happening, I haven't noticed any cross country people necessarily.
Jamie:They were staying here when we first got here.
Scott:Oh, maybe still now?
Jamie:A lot of Olympic rings on, like, like, Audi jackets sponsored by Audi, Olympic ring.
Scott:I could go buy a jacket with an Audi ring.
Jamie:No. No. I'm this was given to them.
Scott:Oh, yeah? Wasn't They were high level athletes? Yeah. Not, like, just general supporters of the Olympics?
Jamie:I think they're gone now because when we checked in here to Mirror Lake on Thursday, there were banners in the lobby. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Like welcome team USA. Oh, amazing.
Jamie:Oh, yeah. Yeah. There were a bunch of were standing in the lobby.
Scott:Oh, that's so cool.
Jamie:Yeah. So yeah. Like I said, there's a lot going on here this weekend. Yeah. You know?
Jamie:And there's a ton to do. Your wife did a little dog sledding?
Scott:With dog sledding yesterday. Right. They're skiing today. Right. At White Face?
Scott:We I think what you Nancy saw that it was closed but the the luge or the skeleton or
Jamie:Yeah. The box That was a shame.
Scott:Yeah. That would be I would love to do that myself.
Jamie:Me too. I would I would have done that in a heartbeat by the way. Yeah. I think it closed because it got it got warm the week before we came here.
Scott:Right.
Jamie:I think it was like 55 or 60 here Right. For like a couple days. So they so apparently they shut the the skeleton or whatever is down.
Scott:That's annoying. I I get it but like it would have been great
Jamie:for the kids. It would
Scott:have been
Jamie:for the kids. And there's also there's like a slide if you call it like that's at the other end of the lake by the post office. Not far right by the rink
Scott:Yep.
Jamie:Where you get like a toboggan
Scott:Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Jamie:Yeah. And you go down this thing and it empties you onto the lake And you just go. Just shoots you out.
Scott:Yeah. Yeah. I actually saw videos of it.
Jamie:Yeah. Oh, you did? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Scott:That's pretty cool.
Jamie:I haven't seen it open.
Scott:No. That's
Jamie:one that's been open now.
Scott:What? You mean this time or
Jamie:Yeah. Don't think it's open right now.
Scott:Oh, but were you even here in
Jamie:the past? You've seen it? No. We've done a bunch of it. Oh, yeah.
Jamie:We did it.
Scott:Oh, you
Jamie:did? Oh, yeah. No. We did. Yeah.
Jamie:It's pretty cool. Yeah. Normally, like normally, like, when set on the ice, it goes like couple 100 yards. Yeah. And you could you could tell the idea is to not have the the toboggan spin.
Scott:Yes.
Jamie:Because obviously it kills your distance.
Scott:Right.
Jamie:So you you try not to lean a certain way. So if somebody's leaning Yeah. The sled starts to spin on the ice. Yeah. So if you if That's you a stay
Scott:pro tip.
Jamie:If you stay straight, you can try to go as far as you can. And normally when it starts to spin, sometimes it dumps over.
Scott:Oh. So if you're gonna spin, maybe it's better when it's not so fast.
Jamie:Yeah. Try not to spin if you can't. Yeah. If you can handle that. Pro Pro exactly.
Jamie:Pro tip. We've been here a couple times. Yeah. You know? But see why.
Jamie:Yeah. Listen. But that's I'm sorry it's not open for you guys this time because it's fun.
Scott:Yeah. Listen. It's I I bet there'll be another time. You know? Yeah.
Jamie:Yeah. We're coming up here next year for this too.
Scott:For sure. And listen, I gotta say, like Yeah. Just being, you know, near, you know, collegiate hockey, you know, playoffs and Yeah. Going to the games, like, the atmosphere was pretty good. Pretty cool.
Scott:The atmosphere was pretty good. Yeah. Although I do think it was strange that there was only one band in the building at a time. It made me think that
Jamie:I did two by the way. It's like one was Cornell for the Cornell Princeton game. Yeah. And then And it was Clarkson for the Clarkson. Dartmouth game.
Jamie:Yeah. No. You're not wrong about that. You would have thought the other one would have been on the other side.
Scott:Yeah. There would be two.
Jamie:You would think so. I wonder why that I wonder why that was. I don't know the answer to that.
Scott:You Well, know, it's like if you go to a college game, they'd have to coordinate who's playing what when.
Jamie:Who's like the home team or something like that?
Scott:Yeah. Because if you go to a college game, only the home band is playing. The travel there's a away band doesn't travel to the the away rings. Right?
Jamie:That's true. I'm trying to remember when we went to the bean pop final up in Boston. I'm trying to remember if there were two bands. If there was a BU band and a BC band. I'm man, I don't remember.
Scott:Oh, either way.
Jamie:Yeah. I wanna say there was, by the I wanna say you had one of each. Yeah. I think you did. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think there was one of
Scott:each. You you know what else is pretty cool? Like, you clearly see that there's, a lot of parents and families here, like, players. And we ran into to Mr. Gorman.
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah. In the lobby here. Yeah. While we were having breakfast this morning.
Jamie:Yeah. He's had a bunch of kids go through Princeton and play.
Scott:I think there was three.
Jamie:And he said he played there too.
Scott:Yes. Nice. Oh, Maybe it wasn't three. He's gonna maybe has three kids. I think the youngest one's at Holy Cross now.
Jamie:Yeah. Right.
Scott:At Holy Cross. Right. And it seems like this might be his middle one that's currently playing in Princeton.
Jamie:I think this was his last one. Think this was his older one.
Scott:Oh, this is his older don't
Jamie:know why. Either way. Way. Whatever. Yeah.
Jamie:We talked about a bunch of stuff. It was Maybe
Scott:talk to him.
Jamie:It was cool.
Scott:Meet his wife. They were Yes.
Jamie:They were lovely. Yeah. Yeah. We were in Tim in the lobby in this Princeton year.
Scott:But just And see
Jamie:him right. Right next to them.
Scott:You know, it just just the people that are here like they're just not necessarily casual fans. Like they're here for you know, good reasons to support family. They're like alumni. They're Mhmm. You know, die hard like, you know, sports fans.
Scott:And so it's just really great to be around that atmosphere and seeing like the the mascots like running through the
Jamie:The lobbies of the of the rinks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Scott:Bands and everybody's just having a good time.
Jamie:It's a cool scene. Yeah. You know? And thank you to the ECAC for inviting us
Scott:to this by the way.
Jamie:Mean, that's I mean, we need to shout out.
Scott:Out Doug Christensen,
Jamie:ECAC, Nick. Nick. Yeah. Thank you so much. Everybody that helped us get here.
Jamie:Hey Julia, yeah, yeah. Julia, sorry. It's been, no, it's been 10, it's been wonderful.
Scott:Yeah, so thank you all for that one.
Jamie:Yeah, yeah, they've been, the staff's been great. They've been very helpful. It's been great. Yeah. It's very cool.
Jamie:I'm I'm glad that we got invited because this is a very cool very cool scene.
Scott:Yeah. And then seeing like just the the younger kids you you know for the Can Am tournament coming through. Yeah. And like you know all the different jerseys and you know just Team dressed in pink? The whole atmosphere.
Scott:Yeah. I think it's the team from Minnesota.
Jamie:Actually. Is that what that was?
Scott:I'm pretty sure.
Jamie:I mean, like, bright pink.
Scott:Bright pink. It's like yeah.
Jamie:Can't miss it.
Scott:No. You cannot. It's like highlighter pink, tie like, head to toe.
Jamie:Yes. One of the one of the kids were interviewed last night by the FNC. Minnesota minors maybe? Something like that. I think you're right.
Jamie:Yeah. Minors. The MFC last night during the Princeton Cornell game had one of the kids on who was in like a pink suit.
Scott:Yes. Oh, saw him walking around earlier.
Jamie:Did you? Yeah. Like a legit Like pink that was that was impressive, man. Yeah. I don't know where you even find a pink suit.
Jamie:Where does one find a bright pink
Scott:suit? I bet Amazon. Probably. Probably.
Jamie:Yeah. I mean that that suit reminded me of Dumb and Dumber, the the powder the powder blue Yeah. And the and orange. Right? That's right.
Jamie:It was orange. I forgot what the other color it was. You're right. It was orange. You know?
Jamie:Yeah. But that kid was styling.
Scott:Yeah. And and the, you know, that that hype guy had a that was funny.
Jamie:That hype guy was I I remember we were here we were here two years ago just as regular fans and not actually with the ECAC just watching as casual fans. And that guy was there. He's Oh,
Scott:he's yeah. This is his recurring gig.
Jamie:This is not his first rodeo.
Scott:No. It's not.
Jamie:No way.
Scott:He was pretty comfortable. Sometimes it was a tough crowd to work with.
Jamie:100%. He's very comfortable in that role. Yep. He it's funny. We saw him walking around, like, early on the day.
Jamie:So a little context. Scott and I were at the rink yesterday from, I don't know, 8AM
Scott:till 8AM to, like, 10PM.
Jamie:8AM to 10PM. It was a long day yesterday. We we pulled a long day yesterday, but but he was walking around a bunch. Yeah. And I I I wasn't sure who he was until when we came into the rink for the first game.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Dartmouth Clarkson and he was high fiving all of us.
Scott:Yes.
Jamie:On the way to our seats.
Scott:Yes.
Jamie:Yes. And I was like, oh, Yeah. I remember this Yeah. And I didn't I didn't put it together so I'm walking around. But, yeah, man.
Jamie:Awesome like day at college hockey yesterday.
Scott:Yeah and you know we were talking about this also and I'm not familiar with all the other sites where you know other college hockey tournaments are happening. Right. But I mean coming up to like Placid, I mean, yeah, sure. Like, you're playing at the Boston Garden
Jamie:or you're
Scott:playing at like a major like NHL venue. Like, that's just like so sick.
Jamie:I think most most of them are Most do something along major those NHL venues for the conference championship.
Scott:But to come to like Lake Placid to be a part of the history, I mean I showed you, I will post it on Instagram but that the clip of that that that cyber truck that was parked in That front of my
Jamie:was very cool by the way. Yes. That was wrapped in Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Scott:Yeah. American flag like literally like a proper car vinyl wrap. Yeah. Yes. Hood was the image of like you know
Jamie:The boys winning the gold. The gold medal. Yeah. So And not not the 1980 boys.
Scott:No. Like the The '20
Jamie:The boys that just won it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was cool by the way.
Jamie:Yeah. So they did that.
Scott:There's like a spirit here. There's like a vibe here that you're not gonna get anywhere else and it's just really so cool to be a part of it.
Jamie:Special place. It is. Especially if you're a hockey fan.
Scott:No doubt.
Jamie:Or like a winter sports fan.
Scott:Without a doubt.
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah. Matter of fact, we were his son took my daughter hockey. So in between both games yesterday after the after the Dartmouth Clarkson game, we added what? An hour to kill forty five minutes between games Yes.
Jamie:Ish because we have tickets to both games. So we go we walked in the subway across the street. Yes. Right? And and Scott and his family were going we're gonna go pick up rental because his family is skiing a white face now but the place was closed so my family was online at the subway right across the street from the rink and Scott's family kind of walked in behind us and we were a couple people behind us.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:In line. Yeah. Right? So so so can we grab a sandwich and go back in the rink. And I started talking to this kid behind me who happened to be a hockey player.
Scott:Yes.
Jamie:Goalie, right? Goalie. At the private school that has a location right kind of in the middle of the Street. North Wood? North North something North something Academy.
Jamie:Wanna say North Wood.
Scott:I'm gonna look that
Jamie:up Yeah. Look that Yes.
Scott:Let me get on that for
Jamie:I wanna say it's you have North Field, I have North Wood in my head. Whatever it is. You
Scott:got Wood on your mind?
Jamie:Hopefully not. It's in the middle of the main street on in Lake Placid. So yeah. So we're talking to this kid and apparently he said he plays here at AAA and apparently the athletic trainer? Is that it?
Scott:I think he was like a physical therapist.
Jamie:A physical therapist? It's Northwood. Northwood. Okay.
Scott:So you were right?
Jamie:Northwood Academy on the Strip there. Academy. Sorry. So I'm talking to the goalie, really nice kid, really nice kid. And apparently the physical therapist for that team was standing behind Scott and I didn't find this out until the kid left after I was done talking to him and he left with his girlfriend that I knew he was a goalie because we were kind of talking about hockey but apparently the physical therapist didn't know that Scott and I were together know because we were separated by a bunch of people online.
Jamie:This guy starts talking to Scott and he was telling you how this kid is like really legit.
Scott:Yeah. He's saying he's
Jamie:like a major goalie.
Scott:A phenomenal goalie. Yeah. He's from just outside Ottawa. Right. Yeah.
Scott:And
Jamie:And he comes down here to play at this private school.
Scott:He's playing there and then he's also like I think he just turned 15.
Jamie:Yeah. And like he's playing That's what he said.
Scott:At least one birth year up with few sixteens.
Jamie:He told me he's in 2010.
Scott:Is it 2000 okay.
Jamie:Because I said only he was two older than The Soros is a 10 also. Yes, correct. Right. Yeah, exactly. So apparently the physical therapist was telling you because he was listening to my conversation with the kids and he was saying that he was like playing himself down.
Scott:Oh yeah, he said I love hearing this kid talk, he's so humble but he's such a star.
Jamie:Yeah, and he did not come off that way at all. Was saying like, oh I'm in twenty ten, I play right here, you know. He was saying like when he goes for a run like around town he's like, I can't believe I get to like you know run by like you know Herbruck's Arena and you know Oh that's what the kid was. Yeah. Really nice kid.
Jamie:You know but it's a special place man.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:It's you know. So yeah. So that was the funny story kind of talked like a hockey
Scott:And you know what else was cool like with the boys? So like our our families are here and we were at the games last night and like our boys were like making our we were sitting just above the the player tunnels. Yeah. And so when the players were coming in and out, the kids would run down to, like, you know, closer to to, like, the the front row so they could get a high five. But just like, you know, it's it's yeah.
Scott:Unlike a professional game, you get a little bit more access. You get a little bit closer. It's not as crowded. It's not as this. Just like seeing our kids just like getting up close like near the boards and like you know getting high fives from the players.
Scott:They were into it. It's just like you get into it you know and it's just something special that they're gonna remember you know.
Jamie:Yeah. Asking, trying they were trying to ask the coaches that we interviewed yesterday for like broken sticks or like Yeah. Which I which part of me was like
Scott:not cool. I mean, about you say good job guys?
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah.
Scott:Every kid over there is like, can I have a stick? Can I have a stick?
Jamie:It's true. They kept trying to get ahold of Tapper and Jonesy
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:To get so yeah. So we had some interviews up here that they went well. They were great. The content You can only hear them. The content was fantastic.
Jamie:Unfortunately, we had, which we found out this morning, one of our cables to one of our mics was no bueno.
Scott:It was not working well. It was cutting out. So what we're gonna do is, like, look to put in like an episode out that we're gonna clip together like as much as we can from the different interviews because it was great talking to all three coaches. Yes. And you know, we'll hopefully get that out.
Scott:If not, you know, if it's just
Jamie:If it's just not able Yeah. To to fix.
Scott:We'll get them on again, we'll still be able to, like, you know, able able to hear from them. But, you know, these are younger guys with younger families who are coaching at the collegiate level, you know, have been players themselves, played at high levels. Yeah. And now they're, like, twofold. One, like, you know, helping, you know, the college age kids go through their process then also realizing that they've got young kids and even just talking to Tap you know.
Scott:He was great. Just listening to him. He's got a 12, twenty twelve and a
Jamie:20 And twenty fourteen. Dom's age and Otto's age which is And
Scott:just hearing him say like I'm in the middle of this and I know but at the same time
Jamie:That was so cool by
Scott:the way. You're you're you're going through it and you're like am I doing right by my kid? Does he do more? You know so and even coaches even those as well connected to the game.
Jamie:Yeah and know better.
Scott:Yeah Because it's like, you know, look, because at the end of day, it's true. Right? Like, every situation is different. There's so many different paths. You know, each kid has their own unique, like, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities.
Scott:And so it's like, you know, as a parent, like, you don't have a crystal ball even though you know what like you know conventional wisdom or maybe in hockey it's unconventional wisdom will tell you it's still hard as a parent to navigate that.
Jamie:Yes yeah that was it's funny did he say that off air or on air? I don't remember. It's funny. He opened up a little bit when we got off air. He's like, this I couldn't fucking believe this.
Jamie:She's like, holy shit. Like, you know, like, he's like, my god. Like, I didn't realize what fucking went on. He's like, and I know better. He's like, I find myself like, you know, you go like, am I doing this right?
Scott:Am I
Jamie:should I be skating no more? Should I be right? Like that was surprising to hear from somebody who knows better, but they like you said, you get wrapped up in the FOMO. Yeah. Like it's easy to get wrapped up.
Jamie:Yeah. Which was you know which it so that should make all of us parents feel guess
Scott:Less crazy.
Jamie:The fact that even somebody who's a professional who knows.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:You know right from wrong and that's not to say that we don't but he knows how to act. He even gets kinda wrapped up in the FOMO sometimes and he kinda brings himself back down to earth you know but that was was pretty wild.
Scott:Yeah. And listen, I think that we there are times like nothing is a straight line and even if like you're you take a balanced approach, it's not gonna be balanced in every decision and every month or every year. Like, you might have some years where you're pushing harder, and then you might have some years where you're, you're not pushing as hard or whatever the makeup is, as long as you're you're not on the extreme ends of the curve, you're in the right spot, you know?
Jamie:Yeah. No. I think you're right about that. But it's it was it was really interesting to hear that about like from like a college assistant coach, you know? He was great.
Jamie:I I thought he was I I thought he was fixing your mic there buddy.
Scott:Yeah because I
Jamie:I think it's supposed be tilted towards you by the way. You know, Turn like it.
Scott:You know, yours is not tilted towards you. Yours is tilted towards me.
Jamie:I suppose that's true. So I'm I'm trying Scott and I are trying to figure out we're still in the process of trying We
Scott:are figuring it out.
Jamie:We are figuring it out, we're in the process of figuring out what works best where audio wise, video wise. Not as easy as you think. Hopefully, comes through looking easy on on on the consumer end, But it's definitely not easy.
Scott:No, it just takes time. It takes time, patience. You know. Yeah. Yeah, listen, I think, you know, one thing I wanna do today Yeah.
Scott:Is when we get back over to the rink Yep. Let's see, we got some, you know, and again, thanks to ACAC, Doug Christensen, Nick, Julia, etcetera. Thanks again. We got media credentials. So let's take advantage of those.
Scott:Yeah. And let's, like, head down, you know, downstairs. It's like Yeah. Definitely. Behind the scenes stuff we can check out.
Scott:Maybe we'll record. Yeah. You know, there or at least go live. Mhmm. You know?
Scott:So Mhmm.
Jamie:Yeah. No. Definitely. We definitely can. Also, sometimes I wanted to to shout out to our parents which I thought was pretty wild.
Jamie:So we were talking to that one parent who has a kid playing. And, you know, it's funny. Like, you know, we all think that you all know, like, that parent on your team that, like, is bent out of shape because this kid's not playing a bunch. Yeah. Right?
Jamie:You know? And it's and you could see by their body language and how they talk. Like, they're clearly not happy. Right? You know?
Jamie:And and I thought that, you know what? Once my kid if my kid were to go play d one at x y z college, that, like, I'd be good. Right. It wouldn't matter what kind of playing time he got because he reached, like, a a pretty impressive pinnacle. Right?
Jamie:And he was like, yeah. No. He's like, college parents get pissed off too if their kid's not playing. And and and It was just crazy to hear that.
Scott:I bet like maybe at first
Jamie:You know?
Scott:But because like you just think like wow, that's like a
Jamie:dream come true on to That's what mean.
Scott:You're you're playing d NCAA d one. Right? However, like, when you're in the throes of it and like what are you doing now?
Jamie:I just want you to
Scott:cover it. Oh, my microphone. Yeah. Don't wanna
Jamie:cover it. Hold this. You just don't wanna cover it. Your your cardigan is covering it.
Scott:Thanks for asking.
Jamie:Yeah. I wasn't really asking. I was kind of
Scott:No. Know. Didn't. Telling you. Was showing you.
Scott:I was loosely tying in Yes.
Jamie:Double double digits. I was wondering where that was. My bad.
Scott:Yeah. That was Plover. Cardigan.
Jamie:Well done. Anyhow Did I just throw you up? Sorry.
Scott:Got you. No. Good. But the fact that you get to a high level, like, you still have that compete. You still have that desire to, like, wanna prove yourself.
Scott:And if, you know, you're not getting playing time, I can imagine competitive people not being okay with that. Even if you know you're not playing after you're done with Princeton or wherever it might be. You know, it's like the it it's probably hard to spend your entire life working to reaching that goal, and then it's not like what you maybe expected. Like maybe you thought you were gonna get more playing time and then you're, you know
Jamie:Yeah. No. There's gotta be difficult. That that I think that's what he was saying. He was saying it it doesn't matter what level it is.
Jamie:Right. It's still It's still still difficult. Which was surprising to hear.
Scott:Well, and you know what else?
Jamie:I didn't think that but when he said that it made me go, oh, okay. Like, I I get it.
Scott:Right.
Jamie:You know? Yeah. Like, he said it never stops even at the NHL level. Right. It never stops.
Scott:Well, again, I and
Jamie:and and that the and that also mean there's probably
Scott:some people that have attitude
Jamie:So
Scott:that are just like
Jamie:Yeah.
Scott:You know, and and whether or not they're less competitive than the guy that's all bent out of shape or whatever those, like, you know, qualities are, you know, I I can see how I can see both sides of it, know, like, you know, if you step back, made it to the Like, I I you know, every every every day I wake up playing the NHL is just, like, gravy on top.
Jamie:Yeah. You checked every box for the buck.
Scott:You checked every box, and I'm a happy camper. Yeah. There are some people that just, know, and understandably, are just wanna compete and do better and do better. Yeah. You know?
Scott:And it's hard to accept the fact that, like, what others are telling you is your best, you know, you might not believe that.
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah. It was Or it might not be true. It was eye opening.
Scott:Yeah. You know? In the in the in the same
Jamie:We gotta have him on, by the way.
Scott:That dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Jamie:Mister Gorman. That would be cool.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Yeah. His son's, number 16, Princeton. Yeah. Very cool.
Scott:Yeah. We'll be keeping an eye on him today.
Jamie:We 100%. I I think he he plays a bunch. Yeah. You know?
Scott:There are some impressive players out of this. But one thing I just wanted to share before or, you know, before we switch topics maybe is when we were talking with the coaches, you know, a piece that, like, I thought was interesting as we were talking was how, you know, alright. There's there's players that are playing their last game this weekend. Yeah. Right?
Scott:They're not going on to play the next level, whatever it might be. And so at some point, they come to that realization. Right? And at some point, they're a collegiate student athlete that has big time responsibilities, you know, on the academic side because they're planning for their next chapter, isn't hockey. Yeah.
Scott:But they're also committed to a team that they need to give their all. Yeah. At the moment. Yeah. It's a probably a real test of character when you have a kid that's, know, is like, you know what?
Scott:I'm done after this, but I still have to treat this like, you know, my second job, so to speak. You know? And I never thought about that until we started talking to these coaches because there's an off boarding part that happens with all these Yes. There is. When it comes to the end of the road.
Jamie:No question.
Scott:And it's just interesting to hear how, like, yeah, like, they're, you know, players. Like, you see true character when they know they're not gonna keep going, but they're gonna continue to give it all practice in, practice out. It's
Jamie:hard it's
Scott:hard say. And yeah.
Jamie:Hard to keep them connected. And imagine
Scott:you're also not getting that much playing time, and you know you're not gonna play hockey. Correct. And now you're part of this thing
Jamie:Yeah.
Scott:That, you know, is not giving you what you were hoping it was going to. Yeah. You have to give it everything you got.
Jamie:And he said the coaching staff has a tough time of having to keep that person engaged, which I think he mentioned. I think Tapper was mentioning if I'm not mistaken, right, from Dartmouth. He was saying how, you know, I don't wanna say to combat that because I guess you never really know. But he said during the recruiting process, you you recruit good kids from good families
Scott:Yes.
Jamie:That are, you know, more like team oriented as opposed to self. Right? Right. As opposed to like me me me. And generally that carries them forward even if they are having a tough time with with playing time and something like that, you know?
Jamie:Sure. Hopefully that character guy, you know, when it gets hard is still gonna try to run through a brick wall for the team even if he's not playing so
Scott:much. Yeah.
Jamie:You know? I gotta tell you, we got some really interesting tidbits of information from those coaches.
Scott:Yeah. So we're gonna work on getting that spliced together. Yeah. Hopefully it will. We're gonna do a few more recordings before we head out here.
Scott:We got the finals tonight. Yes. Princeton Dartmouth. Yeah. Looking forward to it.
Scott:Yeah. She will
Jamie:be awesome.
Scott:We'll probably go live. We'll probably get over to the rink and record some more. So Yeah. You know, we'll we'll drop some video content as we get things
Jamie:Yeah. Definitely. Ready to go. Yeah.
Scott:And this has just been, like, so far, and it's certainly not over, an amazing weekend of, like, full of hockey and just meeting great hockey people, families, etcetera.
Jamie:Yeah. It's been great.
Scott:Yeah. It's
Jamie:it's definitely been great. Yeah. I'm I'm looking forward to coming back next year. Yeah. It's it's the ECAC puts on a very impressive event.
Jamie:Yeah. It's very cool.
Scott:Yeah. Like the class is great.
Jamie:And like you were saying, in the in this this setting is it's tremendous. Yeah. You know? I know we've I'm sure if you've been following us on Instagram, you're seeing our stories and you're seeing all of our clips. It's, you know, it's a magical place.
Scott:Yeah. No. It's really great. Yeah. So so way to go.
Scott:Yeah. Yeah. Thank you again to Chris and crew. Yes. And looking forward to a great file tonight.
Jamie:Yeah. Should be fun.
Scott:Yeah. Yeah. Alright, buddy. Let's wrap it up.
Jamie:Alright. Sounds good, buddy.
Scott:Alright. See you. Peace.