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Wayne Hoffman, President of the Idaho Freedom Foundation, visits with Idaho Speaks to discuss education challenges, Social Justice, and Critical Race Theory in Idaho and America. We also discuss what Idaho Freedom Foundation is doing to keep legislators on track to serve the best interests of the citizens of the state of Idaho.
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If you're watching the evening
news, I guess that's not a thing
anymore. If you're watching Fox
News, or MSNBC, like like my
parents do all the time. If
you're watching those and you're
constantly obsessed with what
Biden is doing and what Congress
is doing, you're paying
attention to the wrong people.
I'm not saying you shouldn't
know. Obviously, I want people
to be informed. But there have
been so many times where I'll
talk to people who are very well
educated. Welcome to Idaho
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Idaho speaks with me on the
phone today. We've we've got a
warrior. When I'm talking about
warrior, this is somebody who is
devoting his entire life to
defending our way of life. D
he's put together a program the
Idaho Freedom Foundation, and he
is working his fingers to the
bone to the benefit of the
voters of the state of Idaho.
With me today is none other than
the president of the Idaho
Freedom Foundation. Mr. Wayne
Hoffman Wayne, thank you so much
for coming in on the program
with us today.
And thanks for having me. I
appreciate it.
So today I wanted to talk a
little bit about social justice
ideology. This has become such a
buzzword and I'm not sure voters
even understand what it means
anymore. It's been misused so
much. Can you talk just a little
bit about what social justice
means?
Sure. Basically, it derives from
the idea that America is
inherently and systemically
racist. You hear that was the
critical race theory, which has
gotten a lot of play recently,
America's systemically
historically irredeemably
racist, and in order to fix the
things that are wrong in
American society, American life,
we need to eradicate and
eradicate bad actors, bad
behaviors, bad institutions, and
supply a realm of justice for
the folks who have been
oppressed by our terrible
system. And that social justice
in a nutshell,
you know, Tucker Carlson has
asked this question a lot going
back a few years, Bill O'Reilly
asked this question a lot. Who
gets to define what social
justice is?
Well, the West does, because
we've allowed them to. And so
when you hear the phrase, social
justice, just think of those
words. I mean, who could be
opposed to social justice, and
it's the bane of my existence, I
end up fighting these things
that sound really good, always
marketed and carefully packaged,
has an appeal to people who are
either not informed or they read
the maintenance, they read the
newspaper, and so therefore,
they're misinformed. And so, you
know, sure, Justice is great for
one group, but detrimental to
the other, who gets to choose
which which group is most
aggrieved by the policy that's
put in place where the left
does, and that's kind of
unfortunate.
Now, when it comes to our higher
education institutes, that you
guys have been really diving
into the challenges that our
college students have if I it's
been a long time since I've been
in college and graduated a long,
long time ago. I can't imagine
what it would be like on a
college campus today. For our
listeners benefit. Can you kind
of outline some of the
challenges that a conservative
student might have on a college
campus today?
Well, sure, in fact, my son's on
one of those college campuses.
He Tennessee University of
Idaho. And I remember distinctly
This was now a couple years ago,
the University of Idaho had an
orientation program for incoming
freshmen. And you go to the
orientation programs and
beautiful day in a park. And all
these students who are supposed
to be facilitators of the
orientation, pretty much give
you exactly the flavor for what
you can expect, they stand up on
the stage and they say, Hi, my
name is Sally, my pronouns are
she, her and hers, and then
proceeded tell you how they're
going to change the world with
whatever horrible degree that
they're getting educated in. And
then they then have to stay the
whole thing again, in Spanish,
which is usually broken Spanish,
because a lot of these kids
aren't really good at Spanish,
honestly. And so it's you have
to be multilingual, it has to be
all inclusive, you have to
obsess over your pronouns. And
that's even before you get to
class, when you get to class,
you have to be taught that,
again, Americas is systemically
racist, that there are people
who are oppressors. And then
there are people who are the
oppressed. And you get to hear
about that over and over again,
and you get the pleasure of
paying for courses that remind
you of that over and over and
over again. And so it's
basically a lot of you're
riddled with guilt, you face a
lot of shame. You get outed, if
you don't go along with whatever
the professor has tried to feed
you in terms of their particular
leanings, and their focus on on,
you know, diversity and
inclusion. And, and so you,
there are two types of students
there, the students who go along
with it, because they just want
to get their degree and get it
over with. And then the other
students to say, no, wait a
minute, this is this is
nonsense. And they're the ones
that get put upon pretty
heavily. And, and that's
happening in Idaho, as well as
it's happening in all the other
states of our country as well.
You know, 25 years ago, when I
wrapped up my degree, I remember
confronting an English Lit
professor, she was really
ripping into the president at
the time, and made a statement
that he hates Muslims. And I
just raised my hand, and she
called on me and I said, cite
your source. And I think back on
that experience back then, and I
was an older student, I'd
already served time in the army,
it was a military musician, and
I come home, and I've been
working for 10 years. And now
I'm gonna go back and finish up
the degree. So I'm paying for
these classes out of my pocket.
And I'm I see this young
professor, stand up there and
disparage the President of the
United States. It's irrelevant
who the President was at the
time, the fact that a professor
was standing up front, just
disparaging the President was
offensive to me, as a veteran,
as an American, as a consumer
paying for this education. An
English Lit class is not a place
to talk about whether a
president likes Muslims or not.
So when I asked her to cite her
source, I completely derailed
her efforts to turn our class
into hate the president mode.
And I was successfully able to
defend my position and put her
in her place. But that was 25
years ago. What are the kids
facing?
Now? I suspect it's worse. I
mean, of course, I finished my
college education 99 into 1994.
So it's been a while for me,
too. But I think that, you know,
I've always wondered if there's
a secondary effect from our
government, we're on education
system. And the conclusions that
I've come to in the era of the
Rona, as I call it, wrote in 19,
is that people will accept
whatever they're told by an
authority figure. Most people
went to a public education
system that went to government
school, and somebody stands in
front of a classroom and tells
you something is so and they
accept that. And so I think it's
that less likely now, after a
generation has passed, that a
student will challenge a
professor now still happens.
Don't get me wrong, it does
happen. But it happens with less
frequency, because people have
been taught to accept the word
of an authority figure. You
know, I don't know about you,
but I never heard of Dr. fallacy
before Mark 2020. And, and now
people are they revere him.
They're making children's books
about him. He's just such a
wonderful guy. And they do ask
that question anything is he
just tells you what Don't wear a
mask, no wear a mask work to
mask wear goggles, and everyone
goes along with it. And I think
that's a secondary effect of the
government run education system.
And to your question, the effect
of that the result of that, is
that fewer people question
authority, including in the
higher education system.
Well, it seems to me like
there's such an anger amongst
the social justice ideology.
Every every time I see the the
kids out protesting, you know,
racist this or homophobic that
they've just so angry. I, you
know, I i've never treated
anybody wrong. How come? I'm
blamed as a white middle aged
male for all of the ills of
society? How did we get to this
point?
Because you're a white middle
aged male in the 70s. What's
next question? Yeah. Seriously,
it's kind of goofy. You're
right. I'm in the same boat. I
think to myself, I never before
have I been obsessed with race?
I've never been obsessed. Well,
I grew up in the south. You
know, and I grew up in South and
the South. When racial
discrimination were segregation
was not in the very distant
rearview mirror. It was a very
recent phenomenon. It was very
fresh in the minds of people.
And in Arkansas, where I grew
up, believe me, you remember the
Little Rock School as it did,
and it was very fresh nose, very
fresh. I think those folks were
obsessed with, with race for
good reason, because they
remember what ills it caused the
kids that are out protesting
today, I don't fully understand
what it is they think they're
protesting. And the other thing
about that, I find it a bit
shocking, it sure. Cut to the
bone. When you hear people leave
these young folks plan events in
their hometowns like they did at
Boise State and they did at the
University of Idaho, lack
graduation. Well, when I was
growing up, if you have black
lunch counters, or lack
restrooms, or you know, black
drinking fountains, we call that
racist. Now they celebrated they
go look, we have as we have
black graduation, aren't we
wonderful? And I just don't get
it. Because they've been mis
taught. They've been mis
educated by our government
education system.
Well, okay, so I'm going to
drive to the point the million
dollar question. Interestingly,
it comes from my wife, I'm just
not smart enough to a thought of
this question. So I have to turn
to my wife of 30 years. What's
the goal? What is the endgame
with the people peddling this
social justice ideology?
Well, I have kind of either a
similar question, because then
the question is, when will we be
done? You know, which is okay,
at what point? Have we given our
reparations to blacks, gays,
Jews, I'm a Jew, no one talks
about us. But you know, we built
pyramids, and a lot of us went
to concentration camps and die.
But no one talks about the Jews,
whatever. But at what point do
we stop this game where we try
to outdo one another in terms of
who's been most impressed?
Right? I don't know the answer
to that question. I've asked him
lots of time. So is it 100
years? 200 years? Is it? Is it a
generation? I don't know. At
what point do you stop giving
special treatment to people
based on their race or their
gender or their national origin
or whatever, that's one. But if
you really want to know what the
goal is, the more immediate goal
is, remember, I told you, social
justice, ideology, and critical
race theory are designed to say
that everything about America is
racist. And those things that
are racist need to be torn down
and eliminated. What is racist?
Well, that would include private
property. That would include the
right of stuff to pass that
would include the right of
assembly and worship and
capitalism, every every one of
those things is racist,
according to them. And they want
to replace that with something
else now. Probably socialism and
communism, because that's what
they've been taught in their
public schools, works and other
socialism that hasn't worked
very well in other countries.
But if we give us a good
college, try here in America
that might work and communism is
not evil. It's just, you know,
been misused in some some
countries and we can do a better
job here. That's what they say.
That's those aren't my words.
Those are their words, by the
way. Those are the words that
are in your public school
textbooks. So I'm not saying
that just out of the blue that
those are the words spoken to.
So what these young people are
trying to do is they're trying
to do the right and more thing,
which is to get rid of American
institutions, foundational
institutions like the
Constitution, like
constitutionally protected
rights, and replace it with
something else.
And it doesn't. It doesn't seem
fair, that the people who built
this country had the mentality
that they want life for their
children to be better than their
life that they had. When my
parents were growing up. I heard
it 1000 times if it wasn't a
million. I want to make sure
Eddie Paul, that you have a
better life than what we had.
And I do. I but I think I think
I'm the last generation that is
experiencing a better living
condition than what my parents
had. We all are. I mean, this is
oppression, people that have yet
and some of these folks that are
complaining need to spend a day
in a third world country, amen.
And see what it's like to just
have a hole in the floor to, you
know, eliminate, you know,
bouncing, right. Yeah, and there
are places where that's not hard
to find. Here in America
oppression is I can't find
things to watch on Netflix. You
know, listen, I grew up it was a
hard time you did to Ed, we have
this thing. It was attached to a
wall and it would ring just out
of the blue. And it was somebody
who was trying to call you and
you didn't know who was on the
other end of the line. That's
right. No, you would have to
answer it the Find out who it
was. We had to be in front of
our TV set things that doesn't
need it our to watch a show.
Well, or they would just not see
it. Some of us we had to brave
shag carpet to go change.
Exactly, exactly. Right.
Exactly. If you get up to the
TV, and you get a shock and all.
Look, I'm not trying to downplay
what these young folks are
experiencing, but I am and to
some degree, they don't
understand that it is
capitalism. It is a free society
has private property rights. It
is the Bill of Rights that has
given us the prosperity and
opportunity of this country that
has outpaced our class, the
entire rest of the world and all
of human civilization. That's a
heck of a thing. To have to have
has has the United States
oppressed people? Yeah, You're
damn right. The United States,
every government, in the world
has oppressed people, the
Indians, we don't talk about it.
The Indians oppressed people,
tribes wouldn't commit war
against one another, and they
steal each other's land. Cave,
people did that too. I'm just
saying that any form of
government is going to have
oppression, the best government
is the one that we have here in
America, where you're free to
chart your course where no one's
gonna stand over you and say,
Nope, you can't do that. Or you
can't go there or you can't be
this fit.
Well, it's amazing to take it
one step further. No other
government in the world gives
its people a chance to make
changes to how the government
operates. America actually,
right America was the first and
is still the only one where it
is formed of the people, by the
people for the people. And what
I see happening especially with
social justice, the the idea of
canceled culture of virtue,
signaling all of this mumbo
jumbo that you hear on TV from
people who are just trying to
pander to the masses. what
they're trying to do is just
skirt by the fact that you've
got to work in order to succeed
it.
Yeah, they don't want a
meritocracy. They don't want a
meritocracy. No, they want
to be born and immediately be
given all of the cool things,
you know, a couple of $100 pair
of Nikes, an iPhone, a
PlayStation four, and life is
grand. So, okay, let's talk
about what the Idaho Freedom
Foundation is doing about it.
Sure. And it's interesting,
because as I've been at this,
and then you give me a lot of
credit, and I appreciate it, but
really, it's a reflection of the
many people who have supported
our organization over the last
13 years. And they are fantastic
that no one can hold a candle to
them staff here at IAFF, they
work really, really hard and do
great work and produce wonderful
research. When we started the
Freedom Foundation in two
senators. In the beginning of
2009. There was an exercise in
policy wonk ism, which basically
means we would look at statute
we look at regulations and we
try to find ways to make those
things marginally better. So for
example, I don't remember what
the income tax burden was at
that point in time, but I
believe it was somewhere north
of I think it was close to 8%,
the individual income tax rate,
and it was it was extremely
confiscatory because it started
taxing you if the first dollar
and you were in the top tax
bracket less than $10,000. And
so you start working on those
things, you get really changed
those codes, you reduce the tax
liability, or, for example,
there was a law in Idaho that
was passed in the 1970s, that
basically gave public money to
the political parties. So the
very first dollar that got into
the state Treasury, there was a
question about which political
party was going to get that,
then you would designate it on
your tax form? Do you want to
give your money and do you want
to give this money that doesn't
belong to you to the Democrats
and the Republicans. And we got
rid of the shows little get rid
of that law, literally types of
changes like that, that the
quantum changes, the big changes
that we want, in a legislature
that's operated mostly by
Republicans was not happening,
we wanted to get rid of we
wanted to reduce don't want to
reduce the power of the teachers
union, we want to reduce the
reduce or eliminate the property
tax burden, we'd like to get rid
of the income tax. We'd like to
get rid of government welfare
programs like Medicaid and food
stamps, and other welfare
programs. You just can't do
that, even though this is Idaho.
And of course, you want an
education system, where parents
really have education choice,
where they're really able to
decide where their kids go to
school and what they were not
able to do that. So we created a
thing called the Idaho freedom
index. And the freedom index
tracks whether legislators grow
government, or shrink
government. We've been doing
that for the last eight years.
And what we found is that the I
know house representatives
started out extremely status.
And status, by the way, for
those of you that aren't
familiar, basically, is the
catch all phrase for socialist
communist, Marxist, anybody who
believes in larger and all
powerful government, we've
changed the conduct of the state
house representatives is now
very conservative and very pro
free market, state senate still
kind of terrible, to be honest
with you. But the exercise now
in trying to get a legislature
that is more conservative, is
frankly, to save the country.
Because Washington, DC won't fix
anything. If you're watching the
evening news, I guess that's not
a thing anymore. If you're
watching Fox News, or MSNBC,
like my parents do all the time,
if you're watching those, and
you're constantly obsessed with
what Biden is doing, and what
Congress is doing, you're paying
attention to the wrong people.
I'm not saying you shouldn't
know, obviously, I want people
to be informed. But there have
been so many times where I'll
talk to people who are very well
educated, and they know what's
going on in the political scene.
They can talk to me all day at
night twice on Sundays, about
what Joe Biden is up to. And
then I'll say, so let me ask you
something. Ed.
Who are you? What do you think
your three state lawmakers, the
ones that you elect, and I very
often will get a deer in
headlights? Look, I don't know
who my three legislators are.
That's the problem. Even in
North Idaho, I love those people
in North Idaho. You got what
17,000 pachyderm clubs and
center right organizations and
hardcore people, one of the
packager clubs meets every they
used to meet every Friday
morning at 7am. I love those
people. I go to meetings all the
time, every Friday morning at
7am. That's incredible. And I
would say to some of those
folks, so let me ask you
something. What do you think of
your three local legislators?
And so many of them could not
answer the question. They were
just unable to answer the
question because I didn't know
who they were. And that's the
problem. Now, I think people are
way more involved and way more
knowledgeable. But they're still
focusing on the wrong things.
And I don't mean to, to make
this too easy because it is a
little bit more complicated as
but often what happens is that,
in fact, that was up at the town
hall though the legislative town
hall meeting that was held about
a month ago. There were 450
people there. It was amazing.
450 people for a two hour town
hall meeting. Do you know what
the first question was that took
an hour abortion. Are you pro
life? I can tell you that. If
you're Republican in Idaho, and
you're not pro life, then you
know you're not really The
Republic. Yeah. And that's an
important question to ask, you
know, the fact of life, your
position on the second amendment
also another very important
question. But it's everything
else too, that just kind of gets
lost. It's kind of shuffled to
the background. So we're sitting
here worried about whether a
legislator is going to vote for
a while. That's very important.
But we're not asking the
questions about, well, what do
you think the government should
be indoctrinating our kids to
believe that capitalism is
inferior to socialism? And
that's where that's where we
would killing our own country?
for eight years? Or,
or should we tear down four dams
on the Snake River?
Exactly. Exactly. No, no, it's
very easy. It's very easy for a
guy like Mike Simpson,
Congressman Simpson, who's been
in office since the dawn of
time. And when he puts out a
press release, it'll say I'm a
conservative. And it'll say it
he didn't say once he says, like
five times every single time
everybody running for office is
not really conservative, will
say, you know, at least four or
five times there are
conservatives Catholic. If
you're listening, I'm a
conservative, which means
conservatives don't need to say
they're conservative, they have
an existence proof of what
they've done to implement or try
to implement conservative
policies. But yeah, so my
stepson goes around, he says,
I'm a conservative, I believe
that, you know, baby should be
protected. I'm pro life, I
believe in the Second Amendment,
I voted for a bill that preserve
the Second Amendment. And then
you start digging a little
deeper, you're gonna wait a
minute, aren't you working hand
in hand with the conservation
when you tear down the dams that
provide water and electricity
and recreation and various other
opportunities for Idahoans? it's
gonna cost billions of dollars
to replace, maybe you won't have
businesses that returned from
that. And that's not a
conservative thing to do. But
that's exactly what he's doing.
But he gets away with it.
Because people stop at Are you
pro life? And are you pro gun?
So no. So let me synthesize this
for the listeners here. So what
you're saying is, first and
foremost, get to know your local
legislators, if you don't know
them by name, look them up,
don't don't feel discouraged.
It, you know, it's something
that it doesn't come naturally,
you know, I'm bad with names.
But if they weren't in my Rotary
Club, I don't think I would know
them. I wouldn't know the three
people who are representing me
here, if not for the fact that I
sit with them at lunch at rotary
every Friday. So short of that,
you've got to learn about your
legislators, and then you got to
talk to them. These people are
local, these people are living
in your community. They go down
to Boise for a few months out of
the year, and then they come
back, and they got to face you.
So if I'm, if I'm hearing you,
right, Wayne, what you're saying
is, is get to know them,
confront them, talk to them,
learn about what's important to
them, and more importantly,
share what's important to you
with them.
Yeah, it's a very, very powerful
and important thing. And I have
actually said to folks in
various forums, make it part of
your daily routine. Seriously. I
have subscribed to the notion
that again, if you if you don't
read the paper, you're
uninformed. If you read the
paper, you're misinformed. So
feel free to read the paper. But
always take it with a grain of
salt, because a lot of it is
simply not true. But having said
that, do your own research.
After you've done your research,
send the email or text message
or make a phone call to your
legislators. And I would do that
every day. Make it part of your
daily routine. I'm serious. This
is I'm telling you. This, this
sounds like a lot. But it's so
important. Make a prayer daily
routine, you get up in the
morning, you take a shower, and
you brush your teeth and get a
cup of coffee. And then you send
that email takes 15 minutes,
take 1015 minutes out of your
day, to contact your legislators
and make sure they know that
you're paying attention to what
they're doing. And here's why.
So if you are the reason why
somebody changes their opinion,
think about it. From the
legislators point of view.
They're sitting in a session
with dozens of other people with
a whole bunch of different
ideas. You get to legislators
together, you got six ideas. So
if you are in their mind, if
they know your name, when that
topic comes up and they said oh
wait a minute. That's pretty
important to Wayne. What would
Wayne do? And before you say,
well, that's not what we hired
them for. Wrong. That's exactly
why we hired them. They are a
representative of the people.
actually correct and remember a
policy is made by the folks who
show up. So if you don't show
up, don't be terribly surprised
if the people who do show up are
the folks with the sob stories.
And it happens all the time. In
fact, I remember there was a guy
named Eric Redmond, he never
Eric. Eric was a representative
from that area who came into the
legislature. So I'm a
conservative, and they put them
on the health and welfare
committee and he hears all these
hard luck cases, please
representative Redmond, you must
expand Medicaid because without
this expansion of government, I
won't have access to health
care. Every single time we vote
in favor of those expansive
government programs. Well, that
is too easy, too easy, by the
way, for legislators do this
because they hear these hard
luck cases and they figure if I
vote in favor of these things,
then that's a vote for me
because they're going to
remember that they're going to
elect that representative or
that Senator voted in favor that
thing that I needed to make my
life easier. And, and you need
people who come in and who say,
no, that's not the proper role
of government, the proper role
of government is for you to do
is to prevent me from hurting
you and you from hurting me.
That said, it's not to create
some program that takes money
out of the Treasury and steals
from you and give us to somebody
else. That's called socialism.
We don't we don't like
socialism, and my neighbors in
them, I'm going to be the one
who checks in on them and make
sure they're not starving. And
also make sure that the kids are
taking a check from the
government in order to get by.
That's a very different mindset.
We start at Idaho Freedom
Foundation, with the premise
that government is too big, does
too much, and does more than
it's ever done in its history.
And we could use a lot less of
it. But in order to get that
legislators have to know, Stop
meddling in my life, get out of
my pocket and get out of my
life. Somebody has to be the
decision.
So how do people get involved
with the Idaho Freedom
Foundation? What are you looking
for, from listeners with regards
to help money, time?
All those things? Yeah. There
are a couple things. Number one,
Oh, my gosh, there's so much I'm
glad you asked. simple fact of
the matter is, we have a lot of
work to do. And contrary to
popular belief. We don't get
money from the Koch brothers or
Koch brother as the case may be,
we don't get money from Planned
Parenthood or from the
government. Our support comes
from Idahoans just like you, and
their donors to give us $100 or
donors to give us $50 or donors
who give us a round of applause
because they can't afford
anything. And their donors write
checks that are much larger than
1015 $20,000. Which is
wonderful. So obviously,
donations are very, very
important. We've had a surge in
donors recently, which is
fantastic. And those aren't just
donors, they're investors. And
they're investing so that we can
get the work done that they
might not be able to get done on
their own. Second thing is, we
need volunteers. We need people
who want to participate and want
to play a part. We had a bunch
of people just come in, but 30
people came in the other day
just to stuff envelopes. But you
know, we need people to help us
with phone calls and help us
gather intel on what's happening
in the K through 12 education
system in the higher education
system. We just need a lot of
boots on the ground as it were.
But most of the easiest thing
you can do, the easiest thing
you can do if you don't have any
money and don't have any time to
volunteer, any of that stuff, at
least get on our text message
list so that you can stay
informed of what's going on.
Because like I said, You're not
going to read the quarterly
impress or the Idaho statesman
or anywhere else. What's really
going on our public education
system, but we will tell you, we
will tell you exactly what's
going on in the K through 12
system, the higher education
system, and all the rest of the
state and local government. And
that number is to the to be able
to textbook 2085144480208514448
o p text, the letters c r t.
That's our critical race theory
group. So you will get
information about what's going
on and our intel on critical
race theory, which is huge. And
that's a two way street. We just
need people to know what's going
on. And then we need to know
what they know about what's
going on in their local schools
and in their college
universities.
So let me repeat that. So text
208-514-4480 put CRT for
critical race theory, and you'll
get signed up on the alert
notices that come out from Idaho
Freedom Foundation.
That's correct. Yes, sir. Now
I know Idaho freedom DOT COM or
DOT orgy is your website. Now
you also have a podcast, don't
you?
Yeah, we have a heavy, I do a
weekly call. I've been writing a
weekly column every year for the
last week every week for the
last 13 years, used to run
pretty regularly in various
newspapers. But the media has
gotten so far left of center,
that they rarely read my
commentaries anymore, but
they're on our website every
week. And and then I do a
special program called this.
This is the both of those things
are categorized as the halftime
report. One of my halftime
report episodes is called the
status of the week. And in the
status of the week, we just
named you know, we identify a
legislator or governor or other
politician or other bureaucrat
or whoever's out there who
deserve some recognition for
their unswerving dedication to
the cause of bigger government.
My Extension has been recognized
several times. Several state
senators in particular have been
recognized. We'll be recognizing
a certain governor from a red
state later on today. I wonder
who that might be somebody who
might be somebody who might
consider I don't know,
eliminating math mandates to be
akin to tyranny? Yeah.
I don't know. That's, that's
odd. Well, Wayne, I
want to cover tyranny.
I want to thank you so much for
coming on the program. Would I'd
like to have you back in a
couple of weeks and, and talk
about some more issues with that
are just super critical, and get
people charged up?
And I'd love to do it. And maybe
by then I'll have my video
system working correctly.
Sounds good. Thanks for coming
on.
Thank you, sir. Bye, bye.
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