Weight of Manhood

In this episode, Adam and Ethan share personal experiences and thoughts on what it means to truly become a man. Adam brings up how becoming a father marked a major turning point in his own journey, while Ethan points out that manhood is a daily, conscious choice rather than a one-time milestone. They also talk about the importance of building oneself mentally, physically, and spiritually, and announce the launch of their new book club featuring "The Abolition of Man" by C.S. Lewis.

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Timestamps:
00:00 "Early Riser Adjusting Routine"
05:47 "Overview and Podcast Structure"
07:40 "Daughter's Weekend Call"
11:58 "Defender of Free Speech"
14:03 Balancing Business and Family Life
17:59 "Early Mornings and Childhood Weight"
22:03 "First Feeling of Manhood"
25:07 "Fatherhood Defines Manhood"
29:48 "This Is Not A Joke"
32:03 Reflections on Tough Decisions
35:44 "Struggling with Manhood"
37:22 "Journey to Faith and Identity"
42:15 "Boy vs. Man's Inner Struggle"
45:48 "Praying for Future Spouses"
49:27 "Praying Together Transforms Marriage"
52:04 "Checking Boxes, Seeking Meaning"
55:10 "Delaying Book Club Start"
57:26 "One Chance Per Day"

What is Weight of Manhood?

Weight of Manhood is hosted by Adam Smith and Ethan Ross. Two guys that met at church and realized they had a lot in common. They're both men who work hard for their families, they each served in the military, and most of all they love Jesus with all they have. This podcast is designed to be raw, up front about today's issues, funny, but most of all, unapologetically about Jesus - the true example of Biblical Manhood.

Ethan Ross [00:00:00]:
I'm going to get this bug. Don't move. I feel like a man now. You're welcome, buddy.

Adam Smith [00:00:08]:
No bugs were harmed during the filming of this episode.

Ethan Ross [00:00:11]:
Except that one.

Adam Smith [00:00:32]:
Hold on, I gotta think. Now, what did I just say?

Ethan Ross [00:00:37]:
You were talking about a. Oh, okay. Vasectomy.

Adam Smith [00:00:41]:
Yep, yep. We'll get going here in just a minute. So that's why you don't want to hear the doctor say oops when you're having your vasectomy. Hey, everybody.

Ethan Ross [00:00:54]:
Welcome to Way to Manhood.

Adam Smith [00:00:55]:
I'm Adam.

Ethan Ross [00:00:57]:
I'm Ethan. And we're gonna power through this.

Adam Smith [00:01:00]:
Yeah, that's a, That's a story for another day.

Ethan Ross [00:01:06]:
All right, well, I think we ought to let them know it's the afternoon and we are morning people.

Adam Smith [00:01:14]:
Yeah, we. We've learned a valuable lesson that we've got to. We got to do this early in the morning for several reasons. Yeah, we're morning people.

Ethan Ross [00:01:25]:
So we're, you know, at our best.

Adam Smith [00:01:29]:
Yeah. A little bit more. Pay up.

Ethan Ross [00:01:31]:
I'm generally at my best. If I get up at 3:45, 4ish. Between like 4 and 7:30 to 8. Perfect. That's like, if I get to work in that time, just sit down on my desk and go, man, it's. I can go. What about you?

Adam Smith [00:01:55]:
Yeah, depends. I. I don't have to set an alarm. I'm just, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. Sorry. I'm gonna wake up anywhere from 3:30 to 4:15.

Ethan Ross [00:02:12]:
So my last job, I had to wake up at 3:45, 3:50 every day. And I needed an alarm most days because I was working two jobs and I would have to stay up until 11, 12 o'. Clock. So I was pretty exhausted. Now though, I'll get to bed. 10 o', clock, 3:50, rolling over. Look at my watch. Like, why am I awake right now? Oh, okay.

Ethan Ross [00:02:36]:
Might as well get up.

Adam Smith [00:02:38]:
Let's try.

Ethan Ross [00:02:39]:
Because then if I try to go back to sleep, I'm gonna have what, an hour of restless sleep, and that's not gonna do me any good.

Adam Smith [00:02:44]:
Exactly.

Ethan Ross [00:02:46]:
I do hesitate to say what time I get up though, because there's such a stigma around. You have to get up early if you're going to be successful. And I don't think that's necessarily true. It just feels true for me personally, and I guess you too.

Adam Smith [00:03:01]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:03:01]:
Because that's. It's before everybody else gets up for one. So the day is yours. And if you can wake up four or five hours before everybody else gets up, that's uninterrupted work.

Adam Smith [00:03:12]:
Well, and you know, I think sometimes at like 4:30, you know, what's, what's the competition doing right now?

Ethan Ross [00:03:25]:
Yeah, yeah.

Adam Smith [00:03:26]:
Is he, is they just getting up to go pay and they go back to bed?

Ethan Ross [00:03:30]:
Yeah. You know, I mean, really sometimes though, if something like, if work's not going my way that morning, I'm like, I could have still been in bed. This is dumb.

Adam Smith [00:03:37]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:03:38]:
But then I don't. And that's important.

Adam Smith [00:03:40]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:03:41]:
All right, it's time for the rundown. What? It's. It's supposed to be intense right now, the rundown. What happened since the last time we recorded in your life?

Adam Smith [00:03:58]:
Oh, we've had a lot happening. We had a wedding, we had a baby grandbaby. Yes.

Ethan Ross [00:04:07]:
That's important.

Adam Smith [00:04:08]:
Yeah, that's right. Yeah. We didn't have a baby.

Ethan Ross [00:04:10]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:04:11]:
One of our babies had a baby or his wife had a baby anyway, so. Yeah, so he had a wedding, we had a grandbaby, we had colonoscopy. We. No, not. Not as a.

Ethan Ross [00:04:29]:
A family.

Adam Smith [00:04:30]:
Family or group.

Ethan Ross [00:04:31]:
Do they sell it like package deals?

Adam Smith [00:04:33]:
I don't know. Maybe I need to check into that. Yeah. But that was, you know, it's always.

Ethan Ross [00:04:43]:
An experience amidst spending the. Almost the whole week out of town like you normally do.

Adam Smith [00:04:49]:
Yeah. Yep. But the first episode dropped, which was. We got a lot of good comments.

Ethan Ross [00:05:03]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:05:04]:
We had lots of people call us, text us. It was, it was really good.

Ethan Ross [00:05:11]:
Yeah. Did you have anything negative said?

Adam Smith [00:05:15]:
No, I didn't. Nothing. Nothing at all. Which.

Ethan Ross [00:05:22]:
That's good.

Adam Smith [00:05:23]:
Yeah. It's a good thing.

Ethan Ross [00:05:24]:
I didn't have anything negative said to me, but I had someone in my family say, not my family, but, you know, extended family say that it felt a little aimless and directionless. And I then had to explain that that was kind of on purpose. We didn't want a topic driven episode for the first episode. Really? The first two episodes.

Adam Smith [00:05:46]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:05:47]:
Which you guys have seen both by now. Because we wanted a 10,000 foot overview of what we're going to talk about, who we are, just kind of how it's going to go. And then the second episode had the definition as well, which we talked about. So that was by design. And from here, mostly from here on out, we'll have pretty. What did you call?

Adam Smith [00:06:14]:
Set? Set topics.

Ethan Ross [00:06:15]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adam Smith [00:06:19]:
And we're always going to be making notes of topics, you know, that. Things that we need to come back to.

Ethan Ross [00:06:25]:
We're still going to get that whiteboard.

Adam Smith [00:06:27]:
Yes. Got to do that. Got to do that.

Ethan Ross [00:06:31]:
What do you want to expound on any of those life events?

Adam Smith [00:06:36]:
Well, the wedding went great.

Ethan Ross [00:06:38]:
Good.

Adam Smith [00:06:39]:
It was. It was phenomenal. The new grandbaby, she's just beautiful. Just sweet as she can be.

Ethan Ross [00:06:53]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:06:54]:
So she's. She was a week old yesterday.

Ethan Ross [00:06:59]:
It's a small baby.

Adam Smith [00:07:00]:
And so last night, all the kids, spouses, and grandbabies were at our house.

Ethan Ross [00:07:11]:
You should. You should tell the story about how you found out that everybody's gonna be at your house. Cause I really do think that kind of.

Adam Smith [00:07:21]:
You think it plays into this.

Ethan Ross [00:07:22]:
It's a humorous weight of manhood moment.

Adam Smith [00:07:24]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:07:25]:
Because you felt compelled to feel a certain way, even though your body was telling you something else. So go ahead.

Adam Smith [00:07:35]:
Okay. Kids, I'm sorry for saying this.

Ethan Ross [00:07:38]:
Your daddy loves you very much.

Adam Smith [00:07:40]:
Very. So one of the girls called me, so I was out of town all week doing a. A trade show. And, you know, you're on your feet all day, and, you know, you don't get back to the hotel till later at night, and. And all week, I had just been looking forward to. I'll get home and, you know, Friday night, I'll relax, eat supper, go to bed at a decent time. So my youngest daughter calls me.

Ethan Ross [00:08:26]:
On Thursday.

Adam Smith [00:08:27]:
Yeah, on Thursday. And she's so excited, you know, she's like, all your little chicks are gonna be at the house tomorrow night.

Ethan Ross [00:08:35]:
Yay.

Adam Smith [00:08:36]:
Yay. No. And y' all know, like he said, I love y' all very much. And I was excited. I was so glad that y' all were there or here last night.

Ethan Ross [00:08:49]:
It's not what you said earlier.

Adam Smith [00:08:53]:
But it. It was. It was. It was great. We love having all the babies here.

Ethan Ross [00:08:59]:
Yeah. So I know what you mean, though. Sometimes we have family get togethers, and it's. It's nice if you haven't seen everybody, but at the pace of life, sometimes it can be exhausting.

Adam Smith [00:09:13]:
But I did. It was good having. Well, it was not just because of this. It was good to have them here, but two of my boys this morning helped me get down all the Christmas stuff out of the attic. And, yes, it is October 4th, and we're getting Christmas stuff down.

Ethan Ross [00:09:43]:
Yeah. Well, you know, people that are such. So busy like you are, you got to plan ahead.

Adam Smith [00:09:49]:
That's right. That's right. And speaking of planning ahead, so I think we need to mention that John Harris got us tickets to the man church conference this week.

Ethan Ross [00:10:05]:
Yep. Got us tickets to the man conference. No man church.

Adam Smith [00:10:08]:
Yep. Man church conference.

Ethan Ross [00:10:09]:
Man church conference in Starkville.

Adam Smith [00:10:12]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:10:12]:
In January. So we Will be going, hopefully filming an episode there.

Adam Smith [00:10:19]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:10:20]:
If we can swing it.

Adam Smith [00:10:21]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:10:22]:
And just kind of, I guess, just portraying what our experience is going to be like there.

Adam Smith [00:10:28]:
Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited.

Ethan Ross [00:10:30]:
Hopefully they'll get to meet John Harris before then.

Adam Smith [00:10:34]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:10:34]:
Because we have to do a fast. Speaking of which, he texted me yesterday. I told him we were recording today and he asked me when we're gonna do the fast.

Adam Smith [00:10:41]:
Okay.

Ethan Ross [00:10:42]:
So we've got to schedule that.

Adam Smith [00:10:43]:
Okay. One other thing I wanted to mention. Since the last episode, before.

Ethan Ross [00:10:56]:
Before you let me speak.

Adam Smith [00:10:57]:
Yeah, Before I let you talk.

Ethan Ross [00:10:58]:
Yeah, that's fine.

Adam Smith [00:11:00]:
Is since the last episode, we lost Charlie Kirk.

Ethan Ross [00:11:07]:
Yep.

Adam Smith [00:11:08]:
That, you know, my family, we've all been Charlie Kirk fans for. For quite some time, so. And it was. That was a tragedy. Yeah. It was a huge loss, but it was. It was God's plan.

Ethan Ross [00:11:32]:
That's right.

Adam Smith [00:11:32]:
Yep. I don't have any doubt about that.

Ethan Ross [00:11:35]:
Well, and it spoke to people for different reasons. My family doesn't watch Charlie Kirk. I've seen, obviously, it's hard to. Hard to miss. So I've seen clips with him, but the fact that he was killed for having a viewpoint. Having viewpoints. Excuse me, that's. It's not okay.

Ethan Ross [00:11:58]:
I am very proud of the fact that he stood for spree. Excuse me, for free speech, and stood on it till the end. And I think, I think he would have lived his life exactly as he did with even the Ford knowledge that that was going to end it.

Adam Smith [00:12:14]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:12:14]:
And talk about the way to manhood. Man, that's. That's a heavy weight. Because he knew he was making people mad.

Adam Smith [00:12:25]:
But, well, and his wife, I don't remember exactly how she said it, what she said, but he said something in a debate or at a conference. Basically that. And I hate to say it this way, kind of put a target on his back.

Ethan Ross [00:12:47]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:12:49]:
And she said, you know, I wish you had talked to me about it before you, before you said that, because.

Ethan Ross [00:12:58]:
Look what happened.

Adam Smith [00:12:59]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:13:00]:
Yep.

Adam Smith [00:13:01]:
But, well, it. It's the way to manhood. And like you said, he wouldn't have. He wouldn't have had it any other way.

Ethan Ross [00:13:09]:
Well, in the fact that people going back, you know, almost 250 years next year.

Adam Smith [00:13:16]:
That's right.

Ethan Ross [00:13:17]:
Yeah. We're throwing a big bash next year.

Adam Smith [00:13:20]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:13:22]:
For America's 250th birthday. Anyway, people going back that far in our country have fought for free speech and it allows us to do this.

Adam Smith [00:13:30]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:13:31]:
We could just decide one day, hey, we're going to start A podcast and disseminate it all across the Internet.

Adam Smith [00:13:37]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:13:37]:
And nobody can shut it down.

Adam Smith [00:13:40]:
Yep. Well, and you know, that's one of you and I both signed on that dotted line. Signed that sign that blank check.

Ethan Ross [00:13:52]:
Yeah. Because we believe in the ideal.

Adam Smith [00:13:55]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:13:56]:
Yep.

Adam Smith [00:13:57]:
So what about. What about you? What's going on with you since the last episode?

Ethan Ross [00:14:03]:
Well, I have been doing my business, running my business, which has taken a lot of time, but I've also gotten to spend a lot of time with my family. That's a new thing for me. I actually went to train a couple of sets of clients the other day and had to thank them. I thanked both sets of them for supporting me during this transition time because I got to put my son down for a nap, and I'd really never gotten to do it like that. And it. Me, my wife were laying him down together, and he turned towards me and cuddled up with me, and it just. Man, it hit me. Yeah, it hit me because I couldn't do that before.

Ethan Ross [00:14:44]:
I was always. I was always going somewhere. Like I said last time, the numbers don't work yet, so the bills, they're still getting paid, and I'm not worried about it. God's. We've been praying about it for the last year, and, you know, God told us this is what we need to do, so we're okay. He'll make it happen.

Adam Smith [00:15:07]:
Yeah, that's right.

Ethan Ross [00:15:08]:
I've gotten some new leads for clients, and I'm kind of stepping into some new doors, so that'll be fine. So I've been spending some more time together as a family. My son's playing football. Recovered a fumble last week, so he's a kicker. So he had a bad kick, kicked the kid in the chest in the front row and bounced off of that kid. So he ran and got the fumble. So he redeemed himself today. We came from a game this morning.

Ethan Ross [00:15:36]:
They had so many people out, and he doesn't only start on offense or defense. He had to play both ways the whole game. So he got to learn a little bit about perseverance and conditioning and the value of showing up.

Adam Smith [00:15:49]:
And it builds character.

Ethan Ross [00:15:51]:
It builds character. Yeah. And he hurt his wrist, so.

Adam Smith [00:15:55]:
Really?

Ethan Ross [00:15:56]:
Yeah. I don't know what. I don't think it's like a break, but it seemed to cause him some real pain. Just, he had it. He had it here when somebody hit him and, you know, crunched it, so I think he'll be okay, but he got to learn from that. Dealing with some family stuff. I Have a teenage daughter who is 13 going on 14, and in the last episode said she was 12. Just.

Ethan Ross [00:16:25]:
Oh, I said she was going to be 13. I think she's at an age where she doesn't care that I have a podcast. And I don't want to say I hope, because I, I hope she does care, but she's 13 anyway, so she's 13. And like I said last episode, that can be tough. And I won't get into the details because that's her personal business, but we're wading through some stuff that's increase the weight I carry. Not financially or physically or anything like that, but just my mental load is, is. It was. It's bearing down on me right now.

Ethan Ross [00:17:11]:
So I'm glad that I have you to talk to and then I can share that with. With these guys and they can know that they're not alone.

Adam Smith [00:17:19]:
Yeah, that's right.

Ethan Ross [00:17:21]:
But other than that, that's it. Church was great last Sunday. We had a really good worship service. Yeah. Ready for another week? Are you, Are you coming to church tomorrow? But you can. If you're not, you can just text me late tonight and say, hey, can you prepare a Sunday school lesson like you did that other time?

Adam Smith [00:17:46]:
Yes, I intend to be there.

Ethan Ross [00:17:48]:
Okay, good. We. My youngest is sick, so I think my wife will not be there.

Adam Smith [00:17:52]:
Oh, yeah. Just cruddy stuff that time of year.

Ethan Ross [00:17:56]:
And you don't want to put the kid in the nursery with the other kids.

Adam Smith [00:17:58]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:17:59]:
So that also means, because I get there an hour and a half before Sunday school starts to play music or practice for service, that I now have to get my 10 and 13 year old up and ready an hour and a half before they normally are and take them with me, which is great. But then they have to sit there for an hour and a half while I play music. So I feel bad for them. But that's the weight of childhood. You know, they should start. No, they should.

Adam Smith [00:18:28]:
The Weight of childhood.

Ethan Ross [00:18:29]:
If I thought it was a bad idea for our wives to start a podcast, I do not want my children starting a podcast called the Weight of Childhood.

Adam Smith [00:18:35]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:18:36]:
Unless they want to. And then I'll be supportive.

Adam Smith [00:18:38]:
Yeah, that's right.

Ethan Ross [00:18:39]:
You know. Anything else about the week?

Adam Smith [00:18:48]:
Well, there was one thing that, that I told you about this week. Well, about myself recently. I feel like, you know, I'm. I'm building myself spiritually and physically, but not mentally.

Ethan Ross [00:19:12]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:19:12]:
And, you know, normally that's not me.

Ethan Ross [00:19:18]:
Well, it's a, you know, it's a. Yeah, it's a three leg stool.

Adam Smith [00:19:22]:
Yeah. So normally I am trying to. Well, I'm reading, you know, going through my goals and objectives, those type things. And, you know, I'm always trying to better myself, learn more, and I just, I haven't. I haven't done that lately. And. And I know it's because I have so much, so many things going on.

Ethan Ross [00:19:56]:
We had the wedding and the grandbaby.

Adam Smith [00:19:58]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:19:59]:
You had a medical procedure too.

Adam Smith [00:20:00]:
Yeah. But anyway, I've. I've got to get back on track. Well, let's put it that.

Ethan Ross [00:20:08]:
Let's put a bow on or what do you. What's the phrase?

Adam Smith [00:20:11]:
Put a pin in it.

Ethan Ross [00:20:12]:
Put a pin in it. Thank you. You don't want to put a bow on it. We'll do that later on it. Well, isn't that to mean to wrap it up?

Adam Smith [00:20:17]:
Maybe so makes sense, right? Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:20:21]:
Anyway, let's put a pin in that and then we'll put a bow on it. Later today, let's. Let's finish this episode. We'll talk about that. With the thing that we want to kind of announce that we're going to start doing.

Adam Smith [00:20:30]:
Oh, yeah, that's right.

Ethan Ross [00:20:31]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:20:31]:
I got ahead of myself.

Ethan Ross [00:20:32]:
You did.

Adam Smith [00:20:33]:
Ahead of ourselves.

Ethan Ross [00:20:34]:
Yes. All right, well, if that's it for the rundown, I know I enjoy it too much. Shall we proceed into our topic for the day?

Adam Smith [00:20:47]:
Yes. Yeah. So the topic that I guess I can say we came up with. Yeah, yeah, we. Which we debated. We had several topics that we wanted to talk about, and we still want to cover those others, but we're gonna wait till later. But our. Our topic today is when did you first feel like a man? There are so many things that happen in life that prepare you for being a man that I guess in the.

Adam Smith [00:21:43]:
At the time you do feel like a man.

Ethan Ross [00:21:47]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:21:47]:
But there's. There's one specific time in your life that really resonates, really hits home that, okay, I'm a man.

Ethan Ross [00:22:03]:
See, I kind of disagree. So you go first. You start first and then I'll go, okay. And I think this kind of leads to the question, when do you think? Does that correlate? Does the time you first felt like it correlate with the time that you now think that it actually kind of happened? Or was it a false sense of manhood that actually then developed fully later? I think that's a good question too, if you want to answer that at the same time. But you go first. When did you first feel like a man?

Adam Smith [00:22:36]:
Well, you know, as. You're as you're growing up, you go through all these stages of life and there. Take for instance. Well, let's just say. Okay, when you first learned to drive, started. Started driving on your own or like, you know, with, with both of us. When you sign that dotted line and with that signing on that dotted line. Yes.

Adam Smith [00:23:29]:
You're in, you're put in a situation where you have to be a man and you, you have to do a lot of growing up. Because I was, I graduated high school and two weeks later I was gone.

Ethan Ross [00:23:52]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:23:53]:
And yeah, I was really looking back at it. On it now. I was still just a kid, you know, but I did a lot of growing up in boot camp.

Ethan Ross [00:24:11]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:24:11]:
You know, because they tear you down and they build you back up to the person that they want you to be, or at least they did then. Nowadays, I don't, I don't know.

Ethan Ross [00:24:24]:
But I want you to know, I purposely just stopped myself from making an Air Force joke, so you're welcome.

Adam Smith [00:24:31]:
That's good.

Ethan Ross [00:24:32]:
I'm growing as a man. That's what it's about. Continue.

Adam Smith [00:24:40]:
So. But yes, I was considered a man, I guess you would say.

Ethan Ross [00:24:51]:
Yeah, but you're 18.

Adam Smith [00:24:55]:
I still, yeah, I still did a lot of, A lot of dumb stuff.

Ethan Ross [00:25:02]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:25:02]:
But I mean, most 18 year olds do.

Ethan Ross [00:25:05]:
Yeah, I certainly did.

Adam Smith [00:25:07]:
Yeah. And. But I can say that when I really truly felt like I was a man was when I became a father. Because at that point. Yes. I mean, when you're married, you are responsible for the well being. Partly responsible for the well being of your spouse, but when you become a parent, it's a whole different ball game.

Ethan Ross [00:25:54]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:25:54]:
You are responsible for this child's safety.

Ethan Ross [00:26:04]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:26:05]:
For, you know, it's, it's your job to care for them, teach them, protect them. You know, that's.

Ethan Ross [00:26:16]:
And a thousand other things.

Adam Smith [00:26:19]:
Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah. So to me.

Ethan Ross [00:26:24]:
Don't touch it.

Adam Smith [00:26:26]:
My bad, y'. All. To me, that's when I feel like I became a man.

Ethan Ross [00:26:33]:
Okay. So how old are you?

Adam Smith [00:26:39]:
Well, I would have to do the math, but give me like a, like a. I think I was, I think I was 26.

Ethan Ross [00:26:51]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:26:52]:
Yeah. Because it was, it was a long road.

Ethan Ross [00:26:58]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:26:59]:
Yep. So.

Ethan Ross [00:27:00]:
So looking back now, do you still feel like that's when you first became a man? Yeah, I know that question is kind of tainted because you just answered it sort of. And you're, you answered it with the experience that you have already. So it's kind of a. Same question.

Adam Smith [00:27:18]:
Well, and, you know, I thought I was a man before that.

Ethan Ross [00:27:23]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:27:25]:
Because I was doing manly things.

Ethan Ross [00:27:29]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:27:32]:
But no, I. I truly don't think I was a man until that point.

Ethan Ross [00:27:39]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:27:39]:
So what about you?

Ethan Ross [00:27:42]:
Mine's a little more convoluted. So I went to college right out of high school. Had almost a full ride. I was saved, but I was not living like I was. I kind of had the left home and became rebellious kind of a thing. Not really. I still respected my parents, but my actions wouldn't have. Wouldn't have shown that.

Ethan Ross [00:28:15]:
So I ended up not going to class a whole lot and lost all my scholarships and was able to stay there. Got on academic probation the first semester. I had a 1.4 GPA. It's tough to get it that low. It's. It's pretty tough. So I'm not trying to brag. So I got put on academic probation that first year and made all A's and a B my second year, which got me off academic probation, but didn't save my scholarships.

Ethan Ross [00:28:48]:
I would have had to get literally all A's. So I didn't save it. My parents were like, that's fine. We'll just keep. We'll pay for it. You know, get your. Get your degree. That's what counts.

Ethan Ross [00:28:58]:
I was like, guys, I don't. I don't think that's a good idea. So. Because I'd already changed my major. I was a mechanical engineering major, and then I was a teaching major. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And so I was like, yes, don't worry about it, and join the Army. My mom cried a lot and did that.

Ethan Ross [00:29:26]:
And when I was in basic training, I kind of had one of those moments. There was a point, and this is kind of funny, morbidly so, but our drill sergeants had us setting down for something. You know, they've been smoking us for whatever reason it was. And he was like, I want y'. All. Listen to me. Y' all are all going to Afghanistan. Y' all are all gonna die.

Ethan Ross [00:29:48]:
And just said it to us just like that. And I think he was trying to be genuine. I think he was trying to just instill it into us, like, hey, this isn't a joke, guys. And that's probably because we'd done something stupid and laughing about it, playing it off. And it was to hammer in that point that, like, hey, this is not a joke. You're training like this because you. You will have to use it. I never did.

Ethan Ross [00:30:12]:
I got sent to Korea right out of basic, and I spent two years there. I spent two years there because they gave you an extra, like, 300 bucks a month, which for an E3 is like double my salary. So I was living high. I was like, extra 300 bucks a month, man.

Adam Smith [00:30:32]:
Living in.

Ethan Ross [00:30:33]:
How long you want me to stay?

Adam Smith [00:30:34]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:30:36]:
So I actually got. I spent two years there, and then I spent a year back at Fort Campbell. But I got married and had a kid while I was there, my daughter. And that didn't make me a man. And I don't think I ever felt like it. I don't think I ever took my responsibility seriously enough. I loved my daughter more than I love myself, but I don't think it made me a man. I really don't.

Ethan Ross [00:31:04]:
I don't think it. I don't think it flipped that switch for me. And my actions later in life kind of proved that, which is weird to say because I. I did some good things. Got out of the army, went back to Cookeville, where I went to school, Tennessee Tech. And so I went back to school and with a history focus this time, which I did, then end up graduating with a pretty good 3.4 or something like that, GPA. And had another child, my youngest son. I mean, my oldest son.

Adam Smith [00:31:44]:
Sorry.

Ethan Ross [00:31:45]:
And did. I became a police officer because. Right. Right out of. Right. Right after the Army, I went back to school and started being a police officer. At the same time, my granddad had been a police officer. And it wasn't something I really wanted to do as a career, but I wanted something really steady to support my family.

Ethan Ross [00:32:03]:
And so now that I think back on these events and I'm going to keep going, it makes me feel like I was making man decisions, but I never felt like it. I just never had that. Like, I'm a man. I never had it. And I had some tough calls, you know, as a cop, there was much, much tougher stuff than happened in the army, you know, And I don't know what I can say on platforms, but pretty evil things. I saw a lot of evil, saw a lot of death, and I'm sure we can get into that. I think we should ask what we're allowed to talk about, because I don't know.

Adam Smith [00:32:46]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:32:46]:
How deep we're allowed to get, but a lot of really bad things and kept on going with life and didn't really let it affect me too much. Now that I look back, it probably affected me a little bit and still does to this day. Like, there was a kid, and I won't say his name just because I don't want to. I Don't want to put it out.

Adam Smith [00:33:09]:
There.

Ethan Ross [00:33:12]:
But I think he was 2 or 3 and parents found him unresponsive, and I performed CPR and I couldn't save him. And that one still gets me sometimes if I think about it, it still gets me.

Adam Smith [00:33:32]:
Well, so I was thinking. The military prepares you.

Ethan Ross [00:33:42]:
It was a nap. It was bad timing. You were saying something deep.

Adam Smith [00:33:45]:
Yeah. The military prepares you for things like. Well, not like that. The military prepares you to be able to take the life of bad people, but it doesn't prepare you for when you can't save the good ones.

Ethan Ross [00:34:15]:
Yeah. Yeah, definitely didn't for me. Yeah. Because, I mean, I would. People would try to fight me all the time as a. As a cop. I don't know if I looked weak or if I looked stronger than like thought as a challenge. That was back when I was competing in powerlifting and strongman there at the end.

Ethan Ross [00:34:37]:
But, yeah, so I was pretty big. I was about 240 at 5 foot 8, so I was just a. A brick shape. But people used to fight me all the time. It didn't bother me. It didn't bother me that somebody else wanted to kill me or wanted to hurt me. But like you said, not being able to save a life. Yeah, that hit me and still does.

Ethan Ross [00:34:59]:
Still affects me. And then there was a couple of others that there was a mother who. Well, I won't get into it. There's that. Until we figure out if we can. I don't mind sharing it because I'm sure there's. Some of our listeners have dealt with tough stuff and I don't mind sharing my story to. Hopefully he's there burden a little bit, but I didn't still feel.

Ethan Ross [00:35:24]:
I still didn't feel like a man. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I didn't know what manhood was supposed to be at that time. I also got into. And I'm gonna plug another podcast here. I'm sorry, but it's not the same as ours, so it's okay. It's the Art of Manliness. Have you ever heard of it?

Adam Smith [00:35:43]:
Yes, I think I shared it with you. Yeah, you did?

Ethan Ross [00:35:44]:
Yeah. So he started in 2006. I think he was a law student or something like that. And he started this podcast about reviving the lost art of being a man. And so I started following him and I was. And basically everything I learned about what manhood was supposed to be was kind of through that. And so then I guess I was trying. I was trying to learn and check boxes, But I never felt like a man.

Ethan Ross [00:36:10]:
I would have never called myself. Excuse me. Oh, man. I'm not emotional. I'm just. My throat's dry. I'm not crying in a bathroom. Okay.

Ethan Ross [00:36:24]:
I'm not there yet. We'll get there. Don't worry. But I went on, the episode is not over yet. It could devolve quickly.

Adam Smith [00:36:33]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:36:34]:
But. And I realize I'm just kind of telling my whole life story now.

Adam Smith [00:36:38]:
So then that's okay.

Ethan Ross [00:36:40]:
Went on from there, graduated, went to law school. Still didn't feel like a man. Had a lot of personal issues that I dealt with. Went through a divorce, ended up leaving law school because I just. I couldn't do it. Not academically, just emotionally. I just couldn't handle it. And came back to West Tennessee, did factory jobs, Just kind of not going anywhere and didn't.

Ethan Ross [00:37:22]:
I don't think I felt like a man then either. Like, if somebody called me a man, I was like, yeah, somebody else, dude. Oh, who. But met my wife, and we brought each other. Well, God led us to each other, which brought us back to church. And obviously, church doesn't save you in itself, but church puts you around other believers and puts you in an environment where you can come back to Christ and have the walk with him you need to have. And that's specifically what it did for me. And so I was working for her dad at the time, doing construction, which is tough.

Ethan Ross [00:38:09]:
That's not an easy job. But I didn't feel like a man. Went to work for. Excuse me, a buddy of yours was doing some cool stuff. Still don't think I felt like a man. And then in the past few years here, just trying to be the husband and father. Why am I getting emotional?

Adam Smith [00:38:35]:
I mean, it's. Yeah, it's.

Ethan Ross [00:38:39]:
What's the first time I felt like.

Adam Smith [00:38:40]:
A man.

Ethan Ross [00:38:43]:
Just trying to do the right thing and realizing that you got to bust your butt every day. And it wasn't until I was doing that with a purpose that I felt like a man.

Adam Smith [00:39:07]:
You felt held to a higher standard?

Ethan Ross [00:39:12]:
Yeah, I wasn't doing what I wanted to do anymore. And I say that as somebody who just started their own business. I'm doing what I want to do, but I'm only doing it because I feel like it's my higher purpose, and it's getting back to God and being in prayer a lot. And actually, this will lead into something you. You've been wanting to talk about. Having the same life goal as my wife and us having that common purpose, our Family is headed in this direction, not me and all of the generations that are to come.

Adam Smith [00:39:56]:
And.

Ethan Ross [00:40:00]:
That'S it. Now I'm a man.

Adam Smith [00:40:04]:
That's good.

Ethan Ross [00:40:05]:
Took a long time.

Adam Smith [00:40:06]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:40:06]:
Took 30 something years. But I. I'm. I feel like a man. There's days I don't. There's days where I'm like, I could have done. I could write a bullet point for each one on this page of things I could have done. I could do that every day.

Ethan Ross [00:40:25]:
But I can write big ones in a day and be like, ah, I wasn't a man to do. And I think that's why I feel like it's not permanent.

Adam Smith [00:40:34]:
Well, it's not permanent being a man.

Ethan Ross [00:40:37]:
I feel like I could turn back into a boy at any time if I started acting like one. I'm going to get this bug. Don't move.

Adam Smith [00:40:46]:
Duh.

Ethan Ross [00:40:51]:
I feel like a man now. You're welcome, buddy.

Adam Smith [00:40:54]:
No bugs were harmed during the filming.

Ethan Ross [00:40:56]:
Of this episode except that one. What was.

Adam Smith [00:41:02]:
What was I going to say?

Ethan Ross [00:41:03]:
Oh, shoot. Being a boy again.

Adam Smith [00:41:08]:
Oh, yeah. You know, we all have that. That boy, that kid inside of us. And you have to make. And this goes along with what you said it. You have to make a conscious decision every day to be a man. Because it's. It's funny.

Adam Smith [00:41:42]:
Our oldest son, you know, when he was in college, you know, he called, told my wife one day, he was like, I didn't want to grow up. I don't want to be an adult. You know, this adulting stuff is hard.

Ethan Ross [00:42:01]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:42:02]:
You know, but. Yeah, I do childish things.

Ethan Ross [00:42:10]:
Yeah. Let me.

Adam Smith [00:42:12]:
Childish things.

Ethan Ross [00:42:13]:
I think that's good.

Adam Smith [00:42:14]:
Right.

Ethan Ross [00:42:15]:
And I think it may be the boy in us that is the one that. Maybe he's the one that started this job. Maybe he's the one that jumped. You know, maybe not that, because this is something I feel like God is calling me to, but I think he's the one that's like, I can still pick that up. And you have to. Then the man has to step in and be like, you can do it. Or the man has to step in and be like, this is going to end poorly. Yeah, stop.

Ethan Ross [00:42:39]:
But that boy needs to be kept alive a little bit. He just has to be kept in check by the man.

Adam Smith [00:42:45]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:42:45]:
And it's okay.

Adam Smith [00:42:46]:
If you try to pick that up, you're not going to be able to go to church on Sunday. And you're going to have to.

Ethan Ross [00:42:51]:
Yep. You're going to call Ethan.

Adam Smith [00:42:53]:
Hey, man, Last minute. Sorry, I forgot to tell you. Yes, I can't make it to church. This was not intentional, but this makes me think of a conversation that I had. You know, everything. Everything comes back to my family.

Ethan Ross [00:43:17]:
Yeah. Well, thank goodness.

Adam Smith [00:43:18]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:43:19]:
Or. Or sometimes. I'm sorry.

Adam Smith [00:43:23]:
So. But I was having a conversation with one of my boys this week because he's. He's driven. He. Well, all of our kids are driven, but. And he's. He's single, and I was saying that, you know, because Aaron's a dude. Huh.

Ethan Ross [00:43:56]:
You looked at Aaron?

Adam Smith [00:43:57]:
No, I was looking at the camera.

Ethan Ross [00:43:58]:
Oh, the cameras. For all our female listeners.

Adam Smith [00:44:00]:
Yeah. Anyway, Aaron, you started saying something or were trying to tell us something.

Ethan Ross [00:44:09]:
Guys. 45. 45.

Adam Smith [00:44:11]:
Okay. All right.

Ethan Ross [00:44:12]:
Boy, it just goes by, doesn't it?

Adam Smith [00:44:13]:
It does. So I'll say this, and then we'll go into the closing.

Ethan Ross [00:44:17]:
Well, I. I want. Do want you to say this and then one more thing, so I don't want to forget the one thing.

Adam Smith [00:44:21]:
Okay. Too one thing. Yeah, I probably need to write that down, but actually, hold on.

Ethan Ross [00:44:26]:
You go ahead and talk. Going to write something down for once.

Adam Smith [00:44:30]:
You do that, so. And then I can talk to you.

Ethan Ross [00:44:33]:
Okay. Hold on. Okay, go ahead.

Adam Smith [00:44:42]:
Okay. So. And he is trying to better himself. Build himself. Like I was talking about earlier about, you know, mentally, physically, spiritually. And so he and I had a conversation about the fact that he has some time on his hands right now, and he was looking for a way to better himself. You know, he reads.

Ethan Ross [00:45:20]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:45:23]:
And he's got a really good job that. That he. He loves what he does. But we had a conversation about the fact that he needs to be building himself into the godly man that his wife and kids are going to need.

Ethan Ross [00:45:47]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:45:48]:
Because. And I just said this the other day and at the night at the wedding, you know, my wife and I have prayed for the spouses of all of our kids since they were little, you know, not knowing who they would be. But we pray for those spouses. But anyway, so you. Yeah, we were just talking about the fact that he's got to be the spiritual leader that his wife needs, that his kids need. And that doesn't just happen overnight. It takes. It takes work.

Adam Smith [00:46:32]:
It takes dedication. It's. It takes spending a lot of time in the Word and not just reading it, studying it, digging deep and letting it affect your manhood.

Ethan Ross [00:46:49]:
Yeah. And listening.

Adam Smith [00:46:52]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:46:53]:
Which I had to learn how to do. And let me say this real quick. I told you last year sometime what I started doing was when I had a long commute, I would just Turn my radio off. And you said, you do this too. And I'll just listen what you telling me, you know, and I'll.

Adam Smith [00:47:08]:
Or pray.

Ethan Ross [00:47:08]:
Because a lot of times I've. That's. I've just got a. I've got all this. Please take this from me.

Adam Smith [00:47:13]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:47:13]:
Which is what he does, thankfully. Which I could. I don't know if I could. I tell you what I know. I couldn't bear the weight of manhood if I didn't have him to offload it onto. But how incredible is it that your son has you to tell him that and then he doesn't end up having to scramble and become the man he needs to be at 32, 33, like I did.

Adam Smith [00:47:39]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:47:40]:
Because it's been tough and it's self induced. I let my own selfish ways ruin my life.

Adam Smith [00:47:49]:
It didn't ruin your life.

Ethan Ross [00:47:50]:
Well, yeah.

Adam Smith [00:47:52]:
It had a negative impact.

Ethan Ross [00:47:53]:
Yeah. It was not a permanent ruin. Temporary ruin. Like, you know, the Coliseum is in ruins, but it's still beautiful to go see. That's my life. No, no, no. It temporarily derailed what I thought my life was going to be and put me on the path that I now know I was supposed to be on. And I could only get there the way it did.

Ethan Ross [00:48:16]:
But that's pretty awesome that you're telling him that. I think that's.

Adam Smith [00:48:23]:
So.

Ethan Ross [00:48:23]:
I mean, for any. Any guys out there that are in their late teens, early 20s, mid to late 20s, and haven't. Haven't settled down yet, you still have time.

Adam Smith [00:48:33]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:48:33]:
To get yourself prepared.

Adam Smith [00:48:34]:
That's right.

Ethan Ross [00:48:36]:
Before somebody needs you.

Adam Smith [00:48:39]:
Yeah. Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:48:40]:
Or else somebody's gonna need you and you're not gonna be there. Or you'll be there, but you're not. You're the you that's. There isn't enough.

Adam Smith [00:48:49]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:48:50]:
And it goes back to picking that weight up. You're telling him how to pick the weight up.

Adam Smith [00:48:55]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:48:56]:
Which is cool.

Adam Smith [00:48:59]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:48:59]:
I said something about.

Adam Smith [00:49:00]:
I need to make a note here. Yeah. We're done. Right.

Ethan Ross [00:49:05]:
I'm just going to go ahead and pack up.

Adam Smith [00:49:07]:
Okay. Oh, are you done? Yeah. Now you can go ahead.

Ethan Ross [00:49:13]:
You encouraged the Sunday school class some time ago. You thought that was really just gonna settle in and tell you something scary. You don't know what I'm gonna say, do you?

Adam Smith [00:49:26]:
I don't.

Ethan Ross [00:49:27]:
This is exciting. Let me make another note. To pray with your wife. I guess you told the Sunday school class to pray together because it's a couple and my wife and I, we pray together. Which I'm the one Praying, which I know you said that when she gets involved, it really opens up even more. But when we started praying separately and together, that's when life happened. That's when it started to come together. And it didn't ever get easier.

Ethan Ross [00:50:03]:
Life got harder. But there's that purpose. There's that higher calling now. So when I wake up in the morning and I have no motivation and I don't feel like it, I don't need the motivation anymore. I can just go. You have two notebooks.

Adam Smith [00:50:20]:
I actually have three. There's another one over there, so that makes me think. And it's in that one.

Ethan Ross [00:50:28]:
It's incoming. Look at that.

Adam Smith [00:50:31]:
Thank you. What a guy.

Ethan Ross [00:50:32]:
I tell you what.

Adam Smith [00:50:34]:
So something.

Ethan Ross [00:50:34]:
Pretend like he wasn't even late. Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:50:42]:
If I can just find it. Okay. All right. I'm not gonna waste anybody.

Ethan Ross [00:50:48]:
You guys just talk amongst yourselves.

Adam Smith [00:50:50]:
Yeah. Remind me there's. There's something that goes well with that.

Ethan Ross [00:50:57]:
Okay.

Adam Smith [00:50:58]:
That I have either written down or in my phone, because I know we've talked about. I'm not.

Ethan Ross [00:51:03]:
I'm almost 100 sure this topic will come back up again.

Adam Smith [00:51:06]:
Yeah. Well. And I'm a notes person, so I've got. I've got this written down somewhere. But what you're referring to is. Yeah, this. And this is a whole different conversation. But, yes, it did.

Adam Smith [00:51:21]:
It. It hit me one day. It's been a couple of years ago maybe. And I'm like, no, it didn't. God spoke to me.

Ethan Ross [00:51:34]:
Yeah. It hit you because of that.

Adam Smith [00:51:36]:
Yeah. Yeah. The Holy Spirit spoke to me that, you know, you're never going to be. You're never going to be fully blessed until you and your wife are praying together.

Ethan Ross [00:51:57]:
Yeah.

Adam Smith [00:51:58]:
Not checking the boxes like you were saying earlier.

Ethan Ross [00:52:04]:
Yeah, but. Well, like, we do check the box sometimes. This morning we read Our Devotion together. That's one of the boxes we check. But we try to get something out of it, too. Yeah, but today's was. It wasn't even really about God or anything. It was just kind of like, this was stupid.

Adam Smith [00:52:17]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:52:18]:
So that was just checking the box. So it doesn't always do something.

Adam Smith [00:52:22]:
Yeah, yeah. So. But yeah, so that's a topic for another day. Yeah. Yeah. Where's that whiteboard?

Ethan Ross [00:52:32]:
It's right here. Braxton's gonna fix it in post. He's gonna have a whiteboard here the whole time.

Adam Smith [00:52:38]:
There you go.

Ethan Ross [00:52:39]:
That was probably pretty easy to edit in. And then he's gonna change the angles for the different camera angles. That's not a big deal. He's got a. You're a top guy, Braxton.

Adam Smith [00:52:47]:
So. So we need sponsors to be able to buy the.

Ethan Ross [00:52:55]:
The whiteboard.

Adam Smith [00:52:55]:
Whiteboard.

Ethan Ross [00:52:56]:
That's what we're waiting on.

Adam Smith [00:52:57]:
Yeah, yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:52:59]:
And you could even put the sponsor's name on it.

Adam Smith [00:53:01]:
Hey, I didn't think about that.

Ethan Ross [00:53:03]:
Crazy. Now it's time to go to the whiteboard of.

Adam Smith [00:53:07]:
Oh, yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:53:08]:
You in?

Adam Smith [00:53:09]:
Yeah, it could be you.

Ethan Ross [00:53:10]:
Yeah, it could be you. We have several sponsorship levels and I bet we've got an email that I can't think of right now. And we'll put it in the stuff at the bottom of the thing.

Adam Smith [00:53:24]:
Yeah, the thing.

Ethan Ross [00:53:26]:
What's it called? Description. Find it in the description below. Yeah, email us if you're interested, please. So, to put a bow on what we put a pin in earlier segue, you're talking about your mental health and reading.

Adam Smith [00:53:45]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. We. I wondered where you were going with that. See? Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:53:49]:
So good.

Adam Smith [00:53:50]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:53:50]:
We would like to start a. It's going to sound kind of. We want to start a book club.

Adam Smith [00:53:57]:
That's what you were going to say.

Ethan Ross [00:53:58]:
We're just men who want to read and gain something from it. Is that better?

Adam Smith [00:54:04]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:54:04]:
And we chosen our first book. This was a you choice, but an author that I highly respect. Would you like to introduce the book?

Adam Smith [00:54:16]:
The. The book is the Abolition of Man by C.S. lewis. It's. I don't have the book yet. I've got it ordered. I thought it came in today.

Ethan Ross [00:54:30]:
That would have been cool to have it.

Adam Smith [00:54:31]:
We had a package come in, and I was like a little kid. I was like, yeah, I couldn't wait to get it.

Ethan Ross [00:54:36]:
I can't wait to show this on the podcast.

Adam Smith [00:54:39]:
And it's.

Ethan Ross [00:54:40]:
It wasn't that. That's something your wife ordered?

Adam Smith [00:54:42]:
Yeah, well, my wife ordered my book.

Ethan Ross [00:54:46]:
So I can't talk about it like that. Okay. I do have the book because I bought the ebook version because it was 99 cents, so there's no excuse, guys. 99 cents. And I was looking at. I don't want to tell you who this big bookstore online is that I bought it from, but they said it was 70 pages, which is pretty doable.

Adam Smith [00:55:10]:
Oh, yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:55:10]:
I don't know if it needs to be a. I think probably it needs to be a cut in half. We'll do the first half or, you know, find some dividing point. Do the first half one week into the second half, another week. So what do you think? Give them a week to get the book. Yeah. So we won't start next week either. You think? Yeah, maybe we'll give them a week to get the book, get settled, and then we'll start reading on the next episode.

Ethan Ross [00:55:38]:
We'll just have a book here. We'll say, hey, this is it. If you know this last chance to get it. We're going to talk about the first half the next week.

Adam Smith [00:55:42]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:55:43]:
So episode five, we'll cover the first half.

Adam Smith [00:55:48]:
Okay.

Ethan Ross [00:55:49]:
And we may have in that by next episode. I don't know. But yeah, yeah, we're excited about that. Hopefully we can improve our own mental health and not mental health.

Adam Smith [00:56:00]:
Well, yeah, well, yeah, but I mean, it's, it's. It's building yourself mentally, it's preparing you for, you know.

Ethan Ross [00:56:08]:
Well, speaking of cognitive decline, we're recording this in the afternoon. I feel like we should say. And normally we are morning, guys. Did we say that already?

Adam Smith [00:56:15]:
Yeah, we did say that already.

Ethan Ross [00:56:19]:
And I'm supposed to be the younger one. Young and spry and hey, yeah. Rock, rock steady memory.

Adam Smith [00:56:28]:
Well, before we go, there's one thing that, That I want to say. Something that just came to me one day this week. You'll never get. Or no, I'm sorry, you'll never have today again. And it was, it was while I was doing my devotion one morning. But yeah, you'll never have today again. And that, it may be an age thing, but it really, it really hit home with me because I was thinking, okay, I gotta make the best of every day.

Ethan Ross [00:57:16]:
Every day.

Adam Smith [00:57:17]:
Because you don't get that chance again to do what you could have done today.

Ethan Ross [00:57:26]:
Yeah. Even if you attempt something and you have to try it again, that's not a true do over. Because we'll never get October 4, 2025 again.

Adam Smith [00:57:34]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:57:35]:
@ midnight tonight, it's over.

Adam Smith [00:57:36]:
It's gone.

Ethan Ross [00:57:37]:
It's. It'll never happen again.

Adam Smith [00:57:38]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:57:39]:
So you have to seize it.

Adam Smith [00:57:41]:
Yep.

Ethan Ross [00:57:42]:
I like that. That's good to end on.

Adam Smith [00:57:44]:
Yep. Well, how do you.

Ethan Ross [00:57:45]:
What'd you phrase it? You will never have today again. I like that.

Adam Smith [00:57:48]:
Yeah.

Ethan Ross [00:57:49]:
Awesome. Well, thank you for listening or watching to Weight of Manhood. This is Adam. I'm Ethan. We'll see you guys next episode.

Adam Smith [00:57:56]:
Take.