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Not the juiciest of beetles, if we're honest.
Creators & Guests
What is Popcorn & Plot Holes?
Movies are fun! Movies are awesome! But movies can sometimes be very, very weird... or just plain terrible. In this intersection of fun, awesome, weird and terrible is where Matt, Luciano, Chris and Spencer live and thrive. They'll be watching the latest FACTS (Fantasy, Action, Comic, Thriller, Sci-Fi) movies available on streaming services and sharing their equally awesome, fun, weird and terrible thoughts on them. Welcome to Popcorn & Plot Holes!
Matt (00:00.531)
Hello and welcome to Popcorn and Bloodhalls.
Matt (00:09.99)
This week we watched Beelgeuse Beelgeuse
Luciano (00:17.976)
Say that one more time. Maybe we'll get Michael Keaton as a guest. Fuck.
Matt (00:19.251)
No.
Beetlejuice. I guess it didn't work. Fucking Michael Keaton, lazy. know, Chris, Luciano, welcome to the podcast.
Chris (00:30.071)
Yes, sir.
Luciano (00:31.266)
Yes. Thank you. First time, long time since Spencer's not here.
Chris (00:32.961)
Thank you.
Matt (00:34.533)
Yeah. We gave Spencer the Beelgeuse.
Luciano (00:40.13)
Yep. He's now working in a booth. Yeah. He was, yeah, this is, this is going to be a cross lore from the other podcast, but he was mauled by wolves. And then now he's, yeah.
Matt (00:41.749)
They're gonna get married. Yeah, he's a Bob.
Chris (00:45.431)
Aww.
Matt (00:52.679)
Mm, yep. If you know, know. Yep.
Let's dive into this. always start off with something positive in the movies you watch just in case we might not like this movie or find some real problem points in the movie or anything like that. Who knows what we'll find. That's for you to find out. Who knows? But let's start positive. Let's go with Chris. Chris, what did you like about this movie?
Luciano (01:10.988)
Who knows?
Chris (01:20.159)
liked how there one one kind of bleeds into the other and it's it's it's Delia Dietz we were talking in pre-show about how we were talking about how how Catherine O'Hara leveraged a little bit of of her Schitt's Creek character Moira into this and it felt right and let it is it's very on the nose but at the same time I mean she did Delia first
Luciano (01:30.024)
Are you fucking shitting me? Okay, alright, you go, you do you.
Chris (01:49.971)
And then she's having a very great career. And then she's free to sample from her own buffet as she pleases. So I loved that. And then the dovetail that connects to is the Soul Train. That made me laugh. That brought me joy.
Luciano (02:07.66)
Yeah. Both times I, you know, when they said soul training, was like, of course, this is of course, doesn't matter. It's still, still works. Yeah.
Matt (02:14.503)
Mm-hmm. You knew it was coming.
Chris (02:18.631)
You know, dude, really nice send off before you really move on to the beyond, you know?
Luciano (02:25.409)
Yep.
Matt (02:26.953)
That part gave me almost like Coco vibes. Have you watched the movie Coco? you should watch this Disney movie. It's about Dea del Amortis. I probably butchered that, but don't kill me everybody. And like this kid's family is on the other side. And so he goes from life to the afterlife side, trying to find a family member. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I said, I said I butchered it and
Chris (02:32.154)
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, It's a wonderful movie.
Luciano (02:33.997)
No, I haven't.
Chris (02:50.017)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (02:51.42)
Dia de los Muertos. okay. No, I know, I was just trying to understand what you butchered. Okay. Cool.
Matt (02:55.935)
Clearly I did.
Clearly I butchered it by the fact that you were like, that thing that you clearly didn't say correctly Nailed it
Chris (03:00.648)
He was trying to help!
Luciano (03:07.64)
Cool, yeah, I'll watch it. I'm gonna say two things because I'm a rebel. First thing is just Michael Keaton. He was having the time of his life. I think the first movie that I watched with Michael Keaton was Beetlejuice. I don't think I've ever watched Jack Frost.
Matt (03:09.363)
Luciano, do you got for fun stuff in this movie?
Chris (03:09.654)
Yeah.
Matt (03:17.493)
just like Chris.
Chris (03:21.655)
Sure.
Matt (03:27.445)
Okay, not Jack Frost.
Don't.
Chris (03:33.065)
not multiplicity, multiplicity. I remember Jack Frog.
Luciano (03:34.2)
Don't, don't, okay. We're getting recommendations both positive and negative today. It's good stuff. But my favorite part of the movie, just because of how jank and unexpected it was, it was him telling his backstory in Italian, narrated by a completely different person. And Michael Keaton just not giving two shits about trying to even make the mouth match. He was saying, I fully believe he was saying what the thing was saying,
Matt (03:35.816)
Yeah, yeah, you don't need to.
Matt (03:40.095)
mean, it's, yeah.
Matt (03:54.27)
Yeah.
Matt (03:58.451)
No, no.
Luciano (04:04.256)
in English. Like just he was he was acting it in English and then so just decided to dub it over. And I thought it was just gonna be like a little thing. But he did the whole narration and I was laughing my ass off. He's like they don't didn't even try to find someone with the same voice. Like it's a completely different person. And it's amazing. I was laughing throughout that whole thing.
Matt (04:08.455)
Yeah, I just overdubbed it later. Yeah.
Matt (04:18.815)
Yeah.
Matt (04:27.987)
Yeah. No, I think you're right. think Michael Caden knows the character of Beelzebub and the usage of Beelzebub was spot on through the entire thing.
Luciano (04:37.536)
Yeah. How about you?
Matt (04:40.267)
yeah, fun parts of the movie.
I think the tone of like the afterlife, like it's still so uniquely Beetlejuice. Like as soon as you're there, you're like, yeah, I remember this from the last movie. They still nailed that tone exactly. There's no other movie where you go to an afterlife that feels like that at all. And I think that like, you're right at home when you start into the Beetlejuice movie, because you get that feel of the afterlife. You're like, yeah, okay, I know this movie. I know what's going to happen here. And they don't...
Luciano (04:51.054)
Mm.
Luciano (04:58.264)
Yeah.
Matt (05:14.985)
They do a really good job of not actually beating you over the head with like things from the old movie. Like they're there, but they do follow, for the most part they follow the movie and the structure of the movie.
Luciano (05:22.06)
WAAA-
Luciano (05:26.754)
Right, yeah. It's very like Tim Burton, right? Like if you watched other Tim Burton movies, you never watch Beelgeuse somehow, and then you watch this, you go, okay, this is the Tim Burton movie, that's fine. Yeah.
Chris (05:40.502)
Yeah.
Matt (05:40.725)
Yeah. He does understand his, he stylizes his world in a very Tim Burton way, but he still, he has that, he doesn't miss, he doesn't overdo it or, maybe overdo it not right, but you know what mean? Like he just, knows the feel of that and is able to reproduce it.
Luciano (05:50.22)
Yeah.
Luciano (05:56.183)
Yeah.
Chris (05:56.265)
It's almost like his signature. And you're here for it. It's like the one kid in art class that you don't get, but you wanna let them cook. And when you just let them have their thing, they come through. Sometimes.
Luciano (05:59.63)
It is 100 % yeah.
Matt (05:59.921)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
Matt (06:09.619)
Yep.
Matt (06:14.537)
sometimes.
Luciano (06:14.616)
Yeah.
Matt (06:18.613)
Alright, let's, okay, so let's start on, I don't know how to start this, so I'm just gonna spit out a question and we can go from there. So, Astrid, who is Lydia's daughter.
Chris (06:25.654)
Yeah.
Matt (06:35.253)
is a teenager and we find out about halfway through the movie she has her mom's gift.
Chris (06:42.069)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (06:44.992)
I see. Yeah, why is a good question. Just as a parenthesis here, I legit thought you're good first. That question was going to be, how fucked up does a person's life have to be that he or she is fishing trash cans for benzos? But I guess we can skip that. Yeah, I don't... So I liked how it was done.
Chris (06:45.727)
Why?
Matt (06:45.918)
Why?
Matt (07:04.221)
That's fine, don't worry about that.
Chris (07:04.459)
Yeah.
Luciano (07:13.792)
in the sense that she didn't know it was a ghost she was seeing.
Matt (07:19.401)
Yep. don't like, well, it's, you know what it is? It's not even that she has the power is that she never uses it. Nothing, it happens to her and nothing becomes of it other than she reads, she's a.
Chris (07:19.669)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Luciano (07:20.802)
But it's cheap, I guess, that she also has the power.
Chris (07:35.701)
It happens to her in a way
Luciano (07:37.025)
Hmm.
Luciano (07:43.131)
It was a means to an end is what you're saying. Like it wasn't really like interesting. It was just like
Matt (07:45.916)
Yeah, like
Because she could see Jeremy, Jeremy could use her to get back into the real world.
Luciano (07:50.605)
Right.
Luciano (07:54.893)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (07:55.148)
Yeah.
Matt (07:59.187)
Like her, you know, in the first Beetlejuice movie with Lydia, like she was actively trying to help the maidlands, you know, figure out how to escape the afterlife. And she was an active participant in everything that happened. The vehicle of her seeing ghosts made it work. But this one's just like, you can see ghosts now too, so I can do this thing over here. And it's just like.
Chris (08:05.781)
Yes.
Luciano (08:19.616)
Right, like he's kind of freed her to do something rather than...
Matt (08:24.245)
Yeah, like no one, I mean, I don't know if this is a hundred percent true, but it feels like the movie happens to people, things are, they're doing things in the movie. Like, you know, even Lydia's character, everything happens to her until Jimmy steals her daughter and then she's forced to take action.
Luciano (08:43.778)
That's the only action, even that was a reaction to something, but that's the only proactive or sort of proactive thing she does. Because shit just like even Rory just happened to her and you know, like Astrid being estranged from her happens to her and Delia being fucking Delia happens to her. she's like a passenger basically.
Chris (08:50.067)
you
Chris (08:56.555)
Yeah.
Chris (09:03.818)
Yeah
Matt (09:06.601)
Yeah. Yeah. And so like, that's the thing with the Astro as a ghost whisperer. It's like, to what end? Like it's, you know, it's like, it's, it's the reveal, like you said, is good. But then are we to believe that if you are sent to the afterlife and you're not a ghost whisperer, then you would see nothing. It would just be empty halls. Right? You just go down. was like, where am I? Why is this place empty? What's happening? Yeah.
Luciano (09:25.518)
That would be so dumb. Where is everybody? Ectoplasm tumbleweed. Yeah.
Chris (09:29.889)
Ha ha!
Tumbleweed, tumbleweed, or floating objects being...
Matt (09:41.033)
So that's where I start to wonder. like, okay, like I just, I don't like, just don't see, and maybe I'm picking on Astrid as a problem when it's like all the characters are problems in a way. Like if you want to talk about a character that is like, he actually works in the story, but it's, it feels lazy, like Rory.
Luciano (09:53.518)
You
Luciano (10:01.314)
Hmm. Yeah, well, yeah. It's, it's, I think Rory more than any, well, Dolores too, but like Rory probably, maybe not the most, but one of the most ones where this happens is, like the character isn't really almost believable as a person. It's just a collection of traits that like...
Chris (10:02.366)
Yes.
Chris (10:21.333)
Yes.
Luciano (10:25.526)
You know that a person like that is going to react in a specific way to specific situation. But when you put it all together, you go, that doesn't, there's too many, too many sticks in this stick house.
Chris (10:38.46)
Rory's presence in this movie as a character is like what happens in family-friendly movies when a bunch of stack on top of each other's shoulders and put a trench coat on trying to get past. That's Rory.
Luciano (10:49.166)
Put a trench coat, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He is like seven tropes in a trench coat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because like he's, you know, the narcissist and he is also the love bomber and he is the grifter that like bums around, you know, where sad women go just to pick sad women. He's also the enabler, like the junkie enabler, right?
Matt (10:55.475)
Yeah.
Chris (10:58.198)
Yeesh!
Chris (11:02.07)
Yeah.
Chris (11:07.251)
Enabler.
Chris (11:14.967)
Ugh.
Luciano (11:19.512)
So, but like, if you put it all together, it's like, how does this person survive as a human being up to this point? Right?
Chris (11:20.634)
evil.
Matt (11:26.517)
Well, it's like they offer up some interesting ideas in the sense that, know, Lydia's husband dies and she's in a moment of grief and she's trying to struggle through it. And they just use it for, I don't even know what for, it's just so they can put this guy here so he can summon Beetlejuice.
Luciano (11:45.9)
Well, yeah, because like she was he was trolling the Widow's like support group or whatever. Which, honestly, I'm not I'm not saying that doing that is fine, but that as a character, it's fine if it wasn't all of the rest of the shit like him being kind of narcissistic or self-centered or whatever that that would come as part of the deal. But like all of the rest of the stuff, him.
Chris (11:52.245)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Matt (12:01.468)
Sure, yeah.
Luciano (12:13.698)
you know, trying to get married to her for the inheritance, I guess, but there's that's never really.
Matt (12:21.397)
It's like, I don't understand what his character is actually doing. Because the explanation of his character comes at the very end when Beelzeus makes him tell the truth through whatever magical powers he uses. And so like, when you watch him as a character, I think of like, I don't know why this popped into my head, but when you watch old school and Bradley Cooper's there as like the boyfriend who's like overbearing and kind of, you know, maniacal. I know it's a comedy, but...
Luciano (12:25.248)
Exactly.
Chris (12:25.397)
Yes.
Luciano (12:31.256)
Yeah.
Matt (12:49.811)
You know exactly what his character is about and his character fits in a slot in the story and so it's it's fine, right? Like he's annoying but you understand what he's there for and what he's doing. And with Rory I'm just like, it just feels like they needed a glue guy to make all this nonsense work and so they created this like character that had 40,000 traits so they could stick this movie together. And it's like...
Chris (12:58.421)
Yeah, yeah.
Luciano (13:03.889)
Yeah, exactly
Luciano (13:10.658)
Yeah, like there was a bunch of holes and they created a character with a bunch of prongs to fit the holes, but it's not a fully fledged thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris (13:11.061)
You know, the Swiss Army knife.
Chris (13:19.339)
The problem with Rory as well is with all of those prongs and so on, he's not clear enough. We already nailed it. He's the bunch of kids in a trench coat, right? But the additional problem for me as we talk about this is that he wasn't sinister enough. Usually, and I don't wanna, like, it.
Luciano (13:39.724)
That's the thing. The character is sort of like he lacks, the character lacks like courage as a character to like, okay, make him a complete dipshit. Don't try to make him, but he's like, know, quirky and he's trying with Astrid and which was the fucking cringiest thing in this movie, him trying to relate to her. That's it was hard. But like you said, Chris, doesn't get,
Chris (13:52.79)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (14:02.135)
That's all him. Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (14:09.502)
sinister or like evil enough.
Matt (14:13.705)
He needs to, you're right, he needs to pick a lane. Am I sinister? Am I just so, like, am I goofy? Am I so vapid I don't understand what I'm doing? He's like, he's aware enough to know exactly what he's doing, but still tries to portray it as like someone who is trying to genuinely convince you that he's not a con man, but in a way that's like unconvincing. And so it's just like, I don't.
Luciano (14:16.074)
yeah goofy right
Chris (14:16.503)
True.
Luciano (14:22.827)
Yeah.
Luciano (14:38.282)
Unconvincing.
Matt (14:42.537)
Man, like I don't wanna be in any scenes with you. I don't care about you as this person. Yeah.
Luciano (14:43.821)
Yeah.
Chris (14:45.567)
Right.
Luciano (14:46.189)
I don't want to see you in any scenes either. Yeah.
Chris (14:49.301)
And it makes it even worse, like we as the audience get like see through it and Lydia Astrid saw through it too at the wake.
Matt (14:58.929)
Everybody sees through it except fucking Lydia.
Luciano (15:01.236)
Lydia, yeah. Which honestly, they did like her character in the first movie is, you know, it's not like the masterpiece of character design or whatever, but it's believable. And, you know, we were young and dumb in the 80s, so we also accepted more, but like, we were saying this, but like her character is just like in the first movie, which doesn't make sense here. Lydia is supposed to be our, you know,
Chris (15:01.546)
Lydia.
Matt (15:10.782)
No.
Luciano (15:29.118)
our stand-in, right, as an audience. But in this movie, it shouldn't be the case because she is already integrated into, right? So it should be Astrid, but Astrid is like, I don't know if it's Janie Ortega's fault. I don't think it is. It's probably direction. She just takes everything in stride. And I know it's supposed to be because her mom is crazy and her grandma is crazy and she's used to, but like, even when things actually happen, she's so blasé about everything.
Matt (15:36.571)
in should be yes exactly
Chris (15:45.804)
Yeah.
Luciano (15:58.092)
that I don't feel as the audience that exactly like I don't see those shock or the surprise mirrored. Like I got more surprised by fucking, you know, the reaction that Danny DeVito's character has to finding out that fucking Dolores stapled herself back together. That was the more like genuinely mirrored reaction than Astrid going, okay.
Chris (16:00.459)
The shock.
Matt (16:14.868)
Right.
Matt (16:21.365)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (16:26.72)
It's a book that tells me how to open a door to the afterlife. Cool, I guess. Yeah.
Matt (16:30.569)
Somehow Danny, yeah, somehow Danny DeVito's like three minutes of acting is more.
Chris (16:31.457)
Cause I wanna see my dad.
Chris (16:37.781)
He lore, he lore-durned the heck out of this one.
Luciano (16:37.87)
boy he did!
Matt (16:41.525)
He did. Right. 100%. And like, I don't I
Chris (16:45.409)
Cold Pursuit, folks, Cold Pursuit.
Luciano (16:46.828)
That was a day of shooting and half of that day is getting him into costume or makeup.
Matt (16:50.453)
Yeah, like you're right. Like I don't like he did it such a, he did like a, I mean, it's a bit part, but he nailed it. And like, I come across every character in this movie and, except for the ones that we have, you know, the baggage and the knowledge of from the previous movie, everybody else here is as milk toast and as bland as possible to, to stitch a movie together. Like Rory is just like, Rory is the every man so we can get this stuff done. And, and Astrid goes with everything and is
Chris (16:58.807)
You
Luciano (17:04.547)
Yeah.
Matt (17:18.431)
Like I understand that you wouldn't be that shocked by ghosts because you know, her mom's been talking about them and like she says they're real. But.
Luciano (17:23.906)
Yeah.
But she doesn't believe it and it's big part of like the sort of the attrition between them, right? Or the friction between them, sorry.
Matt (17:30.527)
her person. then so, sure, yeah, because she says it, right? She's like, how come we can't talk to dad? Which is like fair, but also weird. But it's convenient, right? But you're right, because when she goes to the afterlife, there's not a whole lot of wide-eyed wonder.
Chris (17:39.329)
Correct. Yeah.
Luciano (17:42.387)
No, it's very convenient. Yeah.
Luciano (17:51.658)
No, not at all. And I think there's some, I don't know if it's, I don't know which one is the egg and which one is the chicken in this case, but like she plays Wendy Adams, right? In the series. I haven't watched it, but I know it, like I've seen some scenes and I know people like it, but it felt like she was playing Wednesday Adams as Astrid in this a little bit. So that was sort of like the attitude. She was like, yeah, okay.
Matt (18:00.361)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (18:04.031)
Yes, Wednesday. It's good.
Luciano (18:19.866)
look, there's, you know, there's my dad and he has piranhas stuck to him the whole time. Sure, I guess. Yeah, so it's. I guess it leaves us without sort of a North Star as an audience to follow. You just like you I felt sort of like bamboozled along with Lydia on everything that happened in the movie.
Matt (18:25.203)
Yeah, makes sense.
Chris (18:32.572)
Thanks
Chris (18:38.503)
Yeah, or yeah.
Matt (18:45.129)
Yeah. Yeah, you're right, because everybody else is, everybody in this movie knows exactly what's happening. And like, they're not shocked by anything that goes on, but...
Luciano (18:50.466)
Yeah.
Well, except for roaring, right?
Matt (18:56.347)
I- Yeah, but even he doesn't- He's not, like-
Luciano (19:00.716)
Not enough at least, right?
Matt (19:02.227)
He- I guess he is. You know what it He is. He is. But I don't give a shit about his character. So he's not my avatar in the movie because he sucks.
Luciano (19:04.779)
He fucking freaks out every time he sees Beetlejuice, right? Yeah, that's true
Luciano (19:13.922)
Yeah. I don't want, if that's an avatar, I don't want one. Yeah.
Matt (19:19.453)
Yeah.
Chris (19:19.831)
Right. And the additional piece too, like we've been touching on it and I want to lift it just a little bit. In the first Beetlejuice movie when they had the dinner party and then the possession takes place and they're all like, their reaction, yes, but they have a legitimate reaction based on their characters. Like, whoa, what was that? Can we do that again? Like we survived, whoa. And then like,
Luciano (19:35.148)
Which is the best scene in that movie or one of the best scenes in that movie.
Matt (19:37.727)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Matt (19:45.513)
Yes.
Chris (19:50.187)
That doesn't happen in this at all. I'm not talking about possession. We've touched on it. Reactions, dots connecting, motivations and stuff.
Luciano (20:01.558)
Honestly, I wanted to talk about him too. character that William DeFoe plays is more of a character than Rory is. And how enlightened the casting it was to cast a man who can pass for a demon without makeup. I was like, when I saw William DeFoe, I was looking at the movie before and looking at the cast, I'm like,
Chris (20:08.491)
Wolf Jackson?
Chris (20:14.197)
Yeah!
Matt (20:24.861)
Easy.
Luciano (20:30.284)
There's one person who had they saved in makeup because he doesn't need any.
Chris (20:35.203)
Give it, he still, put some respect. Yeah, I want to see more of him doing stuff. Like they gave him enough. Yes. That was a good decision. They gave him room to do and the script at least for his arc. Yeah.
Luciano (20:36.704)
It was great. No, I really enjoyed his character like you can you could tell you could tell he was having fun, right? Yeah.
Luciano (20:51.355)
He's a phenomenal actor. He just happened to look like a goblin in real life.
Chris (20:56.149)
No, don't say that. I'm looking at him. She puts some respect on Antepho's name.
Matt (20:58.015)
Damn. Okay.
Luciano (21:01.486)
I respect the shit out of him just to don't respect his face. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Matt (21:04.915)
He knows. He knows what he did. how did it, how do we, I think overall this movie has been well received by people, critics, the audience. me, let me do our patented run tomatoes thing here. But, but.
Luciano (21:15.83)
Yeah, the audience, yeah.
Chris (21:15.925)
By who? Okay. Who are they? Who? How, Sway? How?
Luciano (21:22.318)
Tell me, give me their names. Yeah.
Matt (21:26.197)
I'm going to their houses. I'm going to ask some questions. No, but like is
Luciano (21:31.278)
It was like 89 % audience score or something? Something like that. I was surprised too, yeah.
Matt (21:34.341)
I'll find it here. my question is like, is like, does Tim Burton still have it? Is he losing it? So it's 79 % popcorn and 76 % tomato. So yeah. Well, it's rare that the critics and the audience agree.
Luciano (21:43.306)
No, no he does not.
Chris (21:45.513)
He- I think he's losing it.
Luciano (21:47.178)
Yeah. 79. That is high still for this movie, I find.
Agree, yeah. I don't know what was the last Tim Burton movie that I watched that I was like... It still has his emo edge or his goth edge. Yeah.
Chris (21:58.891)
think they were high.
Chris (22:09.686)
emo-ish. Sweeney Todd, is that the one with the barber Johnny Depp? Like that was, it was a good movie. That was like 2014? No, 2012? 2013?
Matt (22:09.993)
Goth fastball.
Luciano (22:13.782)
Was it with Jenny Dap? That was a good movie. That was a good movie. Yeah.
Matt (22:18.933)
Okay, let's...
Luciano (22:23.158)
Maybe.
Yeah, it was a while ago.
Matt (22:28.038)
Let's find out. see. Let's see. What year do you think Sweeney Todd came out in?
Chris (22:29.719)
But that movie was on point.
I think 2012.
Luciano (22:36.335)
Yeah, I'm gonna say 2013.
Matt (22:38.279)
So this is annoying because it's all his credits. Let me get to director.
Chris (22:42.517)
Yeah, that was a good one. That was...
Matt (22:45.269)
I don't know you said.
Luciano (22:45.543)
Cause you're no AMDB. You could have just gone on Google and set and just typed Sweeney Todd and.
Matt (22:49.173)
No, no, I want to see everything. It's 2007. Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (22:52.878)
seven so caroline is after because it's 2008 right
Chris (22:53.033)
re- seven?
Matt (22:59.505)
Did he direct Coraline? Not here, I have written it.
Chris (22:59.991)
Fascinating. I think so.
Luciano (23:00.974)
Didn't he?
maybe, maybe, maybe he's just a writer. Just.
Matt (23:06.165)
His Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is 2005. Frank Inuini was 2012. Alison Witton was 2010. I mean, it's not great. So he directed four episodes of Wednesday, the TV show.
Chris (23:06.207)
Okay.
Luciano (23:09.954)
That one I did like.
Chris (23:17.323)
Okay.
Luciano (23:19.414)
Hahaha!
Chris (23:20.547)
Hey, and those were good. See, that's the perplexing thing. Wednesday was last year. This is 2024 right now. Wait, yeah, last year? Think, think, Wait, Wednesday was 2022? okay, but still, that's recent.
Luciano (23:24.526)
there you go.
Matt (23:34.357)
2022.
Luciano (23:34.478)
2022, yeah, 2022, yeah. Is that all the fucking people talked about in 2022 was it was the as the.
Matt (23:37.363)
Yeah.
Matt (23:42.185)
Yeah, because.
Chris (23:42.951)
It was superb. And so how? How, Sway?
Luciano (23:50.062)
I don't think it's like, okay. So obviously it's his fault to some degree because this is a Tim Burton vehicle. We didn't even do the vehicle thing at the top because this is Biddlejuice. It's a Tim Burton vehicle, even if it doesn't show up. So, but like maybe it's like studio meddling Westside Boys being Westside Boys.
Chris (23:55.307)
Yeah.
Chris (24:02.199)
Sure. Yeah.
Matt (24:03.519)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Chris (24:06.507)
Yeah.
Matt (24:13.663)
Well, one interesting thing here, and I'm just going to confirm it. He is not credited as a writer on this movie.
Chris (24:22.359)
it was mishandled.
Luciano (24:22.924)
That's concerning.
Matt (24:25.813)
So he just directed and you know, so some, it's hard, this is the thing, like we always talk about all the actors did this, or the director did that, or the writer did that, and like we don't actually know shit about who does what or, you know, just because he didn't write the story doesn't mean that like what was put on screen is the writer's fault, like.
Luciano (24:36.406)
No, we don't.
Chris (24:36.747)
Yeah.
Luciano (24:45.246)
No, we all know, at least I've seen, I know you guys have too, interviews with actors and other people that participate in movies and you know that some directors are just going to follow what's on the script. Other directors, like Stanley Kubrick didn't give a shit about the script. He would do what he wanted to do. And I'm pretty sure Tim Burton is the same, right? If he needs to rewrite shit and put things upside down, he will.
Chris (25:06.775)
Hmm.
Matt (25:10.703)
Certainly he has the cache in Hollywood, especially when you're he you're basically you have to go to him and be like, hey, we want to make a sequel to Beetlejuice. You need to get his OK to do that, right? I would assume.
Luciano (25:14.316)
Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (25:19.67)
Yeah. Him, his and Michael Keaton. and something I saw in this movie in the beginning that I wrote down even because it was so weird. Executive produced by Brad Pitt for whatever godforsaken reason. Yeah, yeah. Dee Bradley, Bradley Wolves Pitt. Wolves, yeah. Yeah.
Chris (25:33.521)
that's true. The...
Matt (25:35.005)
like the the Bradley Pitt
Matt (25:39.829)
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Chris (25:43.413)
wilds wuz wuz wuz? mmm yes it's perplexing
Luciano (25:48.382)
It's weird because so there's the thing, I mentioned this when we watched Highlander, That movies that you watch when you were 15 or younger and you watch it again, right? So I remember really liking Beardlejuice. I didn't watch it too many times, I watched it maybe two or three times, but back then when I was like 10, 11, whenever that was.
Matt (25:56.276)
Right.
Chris (25:56.502)
Uh-huh.
Chris (26:00.469)
Yes, yes, yes, do it, do it.
Matt (26:15.231)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (26:17.194)
I didn't watch it in the theater for sure. Cause it's 88 or 80s right? Yeah. So, but he got to Brazil later and I didn't watch it in the theater. like, must've been 11, 12 when I saw it the first time. I fucking loved it. I remember loving the movie, loving the character.
Matt (26:21.013)
88. You're correct. Yep.
Luciano (26:36.318)
I, you know, my nostalgia tinted glasses, I remember the first movie being a lot more solid than this one. So I wonder how much of our decided or least my dissatisfaction with this one is just me not being a 12 year old anymore.
Matt (26:56.117)
that's a very good question. I, I, think I watched Beelzeus fairly recently, maybe in last three or four years. And it's yeah. Well, cause like, no, no, no, I've seen it plenty of times before, but like we like watching Halloween movies around Halloween. And it certainly is a movie that fits into that category. And you know, for, for, mean, I think one of the benefits, one of the things that actually benefits from is this is a movie that was made in the eighties. And so to do all the effects and makeup and all the things that happen.
Luciano (27:04.023)
Really?
Chris (27:05.921)
first time?
Luciano (27:11.624)
yeah, that makes sense, yeah.
Chris (27:14.284)
Yeah.
Matt (27:24.789)
There's a lot of 80s magic, also 80s jankiness. I think the 80s jankiness really helps make the movie feel Tim Burton-y, unique. And so, it's not to say this movie because it's in 2024, it doesn't have that feel, but I think the magic of that movie is that you're seeing creative things you've never seen before and things that you just didn't perceive. And this movie kind of doesn't really iterate well on that stuff.
Luciano (27:28.791)
yeah.
Hahaha
Right. Yeah, yeah.
Chris (27:46.027)
Yes.
Luciano (27:51.31)
Yeah, I was gonna say that. We usually sometimes, this is what I was gonna say, we usually sometimes say, English is hard, we sometimes call out that they make like sequels or remakes and they don't understand what people actually liked about those sequels. But like in this case, this is Tim Burton making a sequel of his own thing. How the fuck does he not understand what was good about the first one?
Chris (27:51.701)
Nope, not at all. Nope, I agree.
Matt (28:00.935)
Great.
Chris (28:02.935)
You're good.
Matt (28:09.61)
Yes.
Matt (28:13.429)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Chris (28:13.904)
His own shit.
Matt (28:17.913)
I think they understand the pieces, but they don't. Well, no, they don't iterate on.
Chris (28:18.07)
Yes.
Luciano (28:22.582)
Right, but not the whole?
Luciano (28:27.47)
I see what you mean. Like they don't, they don't add to it. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. That makes sense.
Chris (28:31.965)
It's here. Yes. And they had they had a Megazord. They had a Voltron. OK, they had a Mecha. And then they decided and then the West Side Boys came in. They're hey, let's so we got these really, really cool Mechas, right? Let's put a let's put a fire hydrant on it, OK, because then we'll get the boys to who like firefighters and then we'll put them on and it will sell. But it doesn't fucking sell and it doesn't work.
because those pieces don't go together. And then Luciano, you said something that I was just now that I was gonna plus one and also think, you know how you see things when you were 15 years old and you should not rewatch them again. I've watched Beetlejuice for the first time end to end. It was chopped up over my youth because like TBS and stuff. First time proper sit down earlier this month. Still great, a banger. And in my youth, I watched the Beetlejuice cartoon every Saturday.
Luciano (29:30.101)
boy. no, it was not. It was not fine.
Matt (29:30.705)
I remember that. It was good.
Chris (29:31.263)
And it was fine. It was fine. It was fine. As a kid who didn't know the rules and had not seen the movie, I'm like, and the toys that were coming out at the time as well, it was fine. And so, yeah.
Luciano (29:38.232)
Fair in.
Luciano (29:42.591)
Yeah.
Matt (29:43.701)
I want the audience to know if you're not watching this video, Chris used air quotes very heavily when he said the word fine, just so we're all on the same page. So many air quotes, yeah.
Chris (29:51.329)
Fine. I'm-
Luciano (29:52.48)
Yeah, there were so many quotes in the air there.
Chris (29:57.577)
I'm old enough now to remember that it like like But like back then it was fine kooky crazy Saturday morning cartoons putting cereal like shoveling cereal in your mouth and like watching the zaniness unfold Anyways
Luciano (30:09.248)
No, in in I was not
Matt (30:12.543)
Just fuckin' seven year old, eight year old, little Chris, just dummying frosted flakes, plowing back sugar, just soaking in whatever cartoon.
Chris (30:24.726)
And then they'd have like misadventures and stuff like that
Luciano (30:24.726)
Yeah, that explains so much if you think about it.
Matt (30:28.981)
I, the way I see it is, you know, remember fucking Jim Carrey's Riddler? And they had that, like the, the enigma box, whatever they put on TVs and it like melted people's brains to beam stuff into the brain. That's how I think little Chris's face looked every day on Saturday when he's watching cartoons, dumbing his frosted flakes.
Chris (30:33.376)
Yes.
Luciano (30:33.506)
Yeah.
Chris (30:38.655)
Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (30:38.797)
Yeah.
Luciano (30:43.886)
It was a real live version of the melty smiley.
Chris (30:44.395)
I can't remember the look. What was the look?
Matt (30:48.371)
Yeah. Yeah.
Chris (30:49.301)
What was the look that ended up on their face? I know he did that. What do you guys remember the look? What was it? Okay, cool. yeah, like Beetlejuice, 88, great. Cartoon, fun, fine. All of that stacked and compared to what we were giving here at Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
Luciano (30:54.22)
A smile obviously.
Luciano (31:11.566)
no, this is a big glass of warm water. that's, there's nothing. Even so like I said in the beginning, Michael Keaton obviously carried this movie and that's because he is beautiful. like as much as this is Tim Burton's baby, let's say like, know, Michael Keaton is the mom as well. Right?
Chris (31:20.74)
It's a note for me.
Matt (31:34.709)
It's not called Tim Burton, Tim Burton.
Luciano (31:37.486)
Exactly. So like, yeah. So that, that like, was fun to watch him play the character again. And like, actually the scenes with Bill just being the, the bit of the juiciest juice that he can possibly be the juiciest beetle he could possibly be. Yes. Yes. Like when, when he's like, you know, whatever pun he makes when he says like, I'm just going with my gut.
Chris (31:40.469)
Tim Tim!
Matt (31:41.876)
Ha ha ha.
Chris (31:49.409)
Yeah.
Matt (31:56.955)
The juiciest, beatle-iest. Yeah.
Luciano (32:07.084)
And then this fucking green intestines pour out. Yeah. It was great. Right. And, and him like teleporting to the, to the booth to say, you know, you're out of luck or whatever it is that he stamped there and he goes out like, yeah, all of those things are fun, but it's like, it's a similar situation. And let me cook. It's a similar situation though with Rory. It's
Matt (32:09.331)
Yeah, fly out, yeah. Yeah.
Matt (32:20.329)
Yeah.
Chris (32:23.159)
See you soon.
Luciano (32:33.782)
The scenes have the same problem. Some of those scenes are a lot of fun to sotrain and those scenes with villagers, but they don't come cohesively to make a story. And that's, that to me is the problem. Like I was, you know, I watched the movie. was like, okay. So that was of all of the movies that I watched, that was one of them. You know what I mean? It's like, didn't, it didn't even make me mad. It just made me like disappointed. You gave me movie blue balls. If that makes any sense.
Matt (32:57.983)
Yeah, I can see that.
Well...
Luciano (33:02.83)
No, I will not talk about porn in this podcast
Matt (33:04.479)
Guess we'll try to watch porn for you next time. I'm not sure where to go with that.
Well, I just wanted to get rid of your blue balls and I don't know how to, how to, and then you'll just take care of yourself. Great. Like maybe the strain, maybe a stranger just to feel alive.
Luciano (33:14.478)
Give me a good movie to watch. That's all I need. Yes.
Luciano (33:25.986)
No, I'll sit on my hand while I watch.
Matt (33:27.861)
Thank you. Yeah.
Chris (33:28.525)
It's, that's a technical foul!
Matt (33:31.125)
Okay, so let's, mean, we didn't love this movie and we've not even talked about the plot holes in this movie. So let's, let's dive into that a little bit. We are, as we always do in this show, we're, we're stretching plot holes to a slightly different meaning here. If you watch this movie, you'll understand why we're doing this. If you haven't watched it, I'll explain it at a high level here. The movie.
On the face value, it doesn't have plot holes. But if you just like go slightly deeper, like just one half level deeper, you realize that the movie doesn't have any plot holes because the movie is trying to accomplish like how many storylines? Like four, five, four? In like an hour and 40, hour 35 minute run time.
Luciano (34:21.24)
Four, four or five, yeah.
Chris (34:23.659)
painful.
Matt (34:27.893)
Which I was actually shocked it was that short given what they were trying to fucking accomplish. And so what happens is you end up with things like Dolores, Beelgeuse's ex-wife. That storyline is useless. So it is a hole in the plot in the sense that you've wasted all this time talking about Dolores and nothing comes of it. doesn't, if Dolores didn't exist, the movie would not
Luciano (34:37.322)
Hmm.
Luciano (34:43.196)
Completely.
Chris (34:44.212)
Preach!
Luciano (34:54.722)
Yeah.
Matt (34:57.907)
functionally change.
Luciano (34:58.947)
No, not at all. Even Jeremy, which is saying something, even Jeremy has more of a meaning to the plot. And to add insult to injury, not only is her plot completely useless, right? he's like, even him asking Lydia for help on why would Lydia do against the soul sucker? Die? Right?
But it was a waste of Monica Bellucci and Danny DeVito. That is a crime.
Matt (35:30.666)
Yes.
Chris (35:33.886)
Agreed.
Matt (35:33.897)
I don't know what plan there was. I don't know if they cut story to make a runtime. don't, I don't, like Danny DeVito is fine. Yeah, Danny DeVito is fine. Like he was obviously just throwaway character and it's like, that's fine. It's a red herring. I don't care. Like he's not anything more. Sure. But.
Luciano (35:37.282)
Yeah.
Luciano (35:41.342)
maybe, maybe. That was a butchered job if that was the case, holy shit.
Chris (35:43.511)
Huh.
Chris (35:52.459)
He's the, it's his Laura Dern stamp.
Luciano (35:57.067)
Laura Derny is the verb.
Matt (35:58.845)
Yeah, but like Marco Blucci, like you see it's like, okay, okay, so now we have a new big bad and we'll see where this goes, but like it goes nowhere. Blucci isn't even worried about her, really.
Luciano (36:04.547)
Yeah.
Luciano (36:09.248)
Yeah, it is.
Not really, he just holds up in his like company, like office or whatever.
Chris (36:17.975)
Yeah. Like, I don't wanna, I don't wanna, I'd like to avoid confrontation. Just board the walls, it'll be okay, you know what I mean?
Matt (36:18.857)
Yeah.
Luciano (36:29.58)
Wow, okay. That was an impression that happened as well.
Matt (36:32.414)
I mean, I I was, I liked it. It was a pretty decent impression. I mean, we'll, we'll get somebody to animate that and it'll look perfect.
Chris (36:33.776)
I didn't say it was gonna be good.
Luciano (36:35.342)
That is fair.
Luciano (36:42.254)
Sure.
Chris (36:42.305)
Shout out to the art crew, to the creative direction team trying to bring back a stop motion animation with like the airplane and then the sand worm. I appreciated that.
Luciano (36:50.4)
The airplane I agreed, the sandworm was horrible.
Matt (36:53.662)
Yes.
Chris (36:54.443)
They brought it back, I didn't say it was gonna be good. I appreciate it.
Luciano (36:56.554)
I like the way what they did with telling the story of how the dead died. That was funny. was out of nowhere, but it was funny. And we skirted about this, not just Dolores, but Rory. If it didn't really exist, would that?
Chris (37:04.448)
Hehe.
Yeah. Dolores.
Chris (37:17.163)
Yes. Yes.
Matt (37:19.177)
He exists for one reason only. It's that someone needs to be impetuous enough to summon Beetlejuice. To get Beetlejuice in the game. And you know it's not gonna be... It could have been, but like you could see... That actually would have made more sense. But you can see how, know... god, what's her name? Delia. Delia's not gonna do it because Delia knows, right? Delia experienced it. Lydia experienced it. So it's fine. And like...
Luciano (37:25.75)
Yeah. Yeah. It could have been Astrid. Easily.
Luciano (37:36.074)
Yeah.
Chris (37:36.353)
True.
Chris (37:42.379)
Delia? Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (37:44.504)
Lydia Saint.
Matt (37:48.863)
So like, if you pass on the idea that Astrid summons Beetlejuice because she doesn't believe in her mom at all, then you do not need Rory.
Chris (37:56.887)
sure.
Luciano (37:57.41)
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like the whole shit in the beginning, right? Where he's like, I'm your manager. That was completely useless. The marriage proposal, completely useless. Like all of it was like, and I'm left wondering, again, this is a Tim Burton thing. Like you said, Matt, this is, nobody shoved him.
Chris (37:59.947)
Yeah. Skip.
Chris (38:13.821)
Ugh, I'm painful.
Luciano (38:25.71)
this into his throat and said, have a contract you have to know. It's like, they were probably, you know, kneeling at his feet asking for this. Right. And so like, I don't understand. Maybe it was a cut thing. Maybe he was just like, I was for the money, but I don't know.
Chris (38:43.743)
Are you saying we need to see the Beetlejuice Beetlejuice directors cut to get proper exposition?
Luciano (38:49.324)
Honestly, unless that thing is like three and a half hours long I don't know how that's gonna work because like like we were talking here How many like we had the the loris storyline we had? Astrid jerrymoore storyline we had beetlejuice trying to get back with Lydia storyline We had Charles Dietz dying storyline. We had fucking Delia getting bit by asp storyline
Matt (39:05.055)
Yeah.
Chris (39:05.558)
Charles Dietz.
Matt (39:09.375)
This is... Sorry, I have to bring this up too. It's like, okay, so you gotta kill Charles because the actor went to jail and you don't wanna deal with him. But why did he show up?
Luciano (39:19.085)
Right.
Exactly. Just kill him. That's my point. Yeah. Like, yeah, I thought so too. I was like, OK, so they cut Ed Rooney from this. I never remember the actor name. Jeffrey. Jeffrey. Yeah, Jeffrey Jones. So they cut off Jeffrey Jones. I didn't know why, but now we were talking about this before we started recording. That makes sense. But then just leave him out. Like, why? Why?
Matt (39:23.369)
He's dead! It's fine! Like...
Chris (39:26.465)
thought that's what they were gonna do, but nah. Cut scene!
Matt (39:28.692)
Yeah.
Matt (39:34.751)
Jeremy, Jeffrey Jones.
Luciano (39:48.918)
makes him like someone imitate his voice. It was funny him walking around with a giant shark bite, but.
Chris (39:57.739)
But that was, I was kind of okay with that. Like that felt like it was...
Matt (40:01.493)
You're right, at least he doesn't actually take up a lot of plot.
Luciano (40:05.184)
No, no, it was just like an interesting thing, right?
Matt (40:07.251)
Sure. Yeah.
Chris (40:08.023)
Like how he died cutscene was not as necessary. he, I don't know, but it was mishandled, you know? A lot of it.
Luciano (40:15.808)
Well, And, and we had the, you know, it's not a storyline, but we have the whole Willem Dafoe thing going on as well in the middle of all of this. It's so many things.
Matt (40:26.175)
Yes.
Chris (40:26.517)
That's at six. And then there's also the, and then the father.
Luciano (40:31.47)
yeah, finding the father. Well, but that's just like a little bit of a thing, right?
Matt (40:31.646)
father.
Matt (40:36.533)
But you're not wrong because all those like... The thing... Again, I don't know shit from shit, so don't take this too critically. But the way I kind of expect to be shown a movie, it's basically Chekhov's gun, right? If you show me that gun in the first third of the movie, act one of the movie, then you're gonna show me that gun doing pew pew in somewhere in the third act of the movie.
Luciano (40:53.166)
100 %
Luciano (40:59.136)
It needs to appear again, yes.
Luciano (41:04.694)
Yeah.
Matt (41:05.909)
And they show things and don't do anything with them. And they don't show things and then all of sudden, like, they're doing stuff. Like, I'm not mad at the Jeremy Astrid storyline. Like, the whole thing, fine. if that was like the central premise of the movie, that might have worked for me, right? Like, it works and it was like, cool reveal, I get it. His parents are dead. That's why they didn't respond to him or turn away because, you know, blah, blah. Fine. Whatever.
Luciano (41:15.075)
What?
Luciano (41:22.324)
Yeah, exactly.
Chris (41:23.924)
Yeah.
Luciano (41:34.798)
It was a good twist, I was genuinely surprised.
Matt (41:36.083)
Yeah, like that was all good. then you have like, so he needs to bring her soul and then that whole thing just like wrapped up with a nice little bow when it was convenient to get rid of that story. Everything was like, there was no, it feels like there's just no story. There's no actual like, there's no substance to the story.
Chris (41:37.759)
same.
Luciano (41:54.85)
There's no substance. Yeah. It's a lot of, there's a lot of like fluff and decoration, which is the thing that Tim Burton does really well. We were talking about this before, but like usually you want to put decoration somewhere, not in the air, which is what he did.
Chris (42:03.563)
Yeah, well, art style.
Matt (42:08.159)
Yeah. But if you think about Beetlejuice, the original movie, right? Because it's the perfect fall to this. In the original movie, you the Maitlands moving to this house and they're getting it set up and they like living there and everything's cute. And then they have an accident and then you don't know what happened to them. And then all of sudden there's people in their house and they're buying it and they slowly find out they died. And you find out about the afterlife and you find out about this Beetlejuice character and they accidentally summon him and they're trying to get rid of him so they don't die in the afterlife, right? They don't get eaten by Santa.
Chris (42:17.141)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Boom.
Chris (42:28.179)
It's... Yeah... Yeah...
Matt (42:38.141)
stuff. So it's about their survival and getting assistance from the living. So the story all tracks it at the end everything's great.
Chris (42:40.758)
Yeah.
Luciano (42:44.571)
And in in you know all the while us learning with the characters what the hell is going on, right?
Matt (42:49.225)
Yes, yes, exactly. And you have a villain, one villain in Beetlejuice, providing like a danger and like zaniness and entertainment slash, you know, horror to that backdrop to make it scary for the Maitlands to survive. That all tracks. And in this movie, it's like, okay, so we gotta, we gotta, wait, I'm gonna show you Lydia and we gotta show you Delia and we can't show you fucking Charles. So we gotta kill him off, that's fine. Obviously we need Beetlejuice, because Beetlejuice isn't in the movie.
Luciano (42:53.379)
Yeah.
Luciano (43:12.206)
Charles.
Matt (43:17.481)
And then for some reason, Beetlejuice needs an ex-wife that's hunting him down. just because Monica Bellucci is Italian, then he's Italian. And then we have that Willem Dafoe as a cop trying to chase down the soul sucker because you can't have murders in the afterlife for reasons. And there's a dry cleaner in the afterlife because reasons don't, who knows? But like, and it's fine. Like I don't mind the world building, but it's just like all these little things go nowhere.
Luciano (43:19.626)
An ex-wife, an Italian ex-wife.
Luciano (43:26.776)
Yeah.
Luciano (43:38.882)
Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (43:47.244)
Yeah, and there isn't one.
Matt (43:47.583)
What is the central, like, what is it? What are you supposed to have in a, like the inciting incidents? Like.
Luciano (43:56.906)
Yeah, well, the main conflict, right? The source of conflict. There isn't one. Right? The main conflict is Charles Dietz dies, and for some reason Delia wants to go back to the fucking haunted house to have the funeral. And that brings Lydia back to the house that's still haunted and blah, blah. And I thought when I was reading, I was like, okay, so it's going to be, you know,
Matt (43:59.379)
Yeah, what's the main conflict?
Chris (44:15.261)
a closure ceremony.
Luciano (44:26.22)
because of Lydia again that this is no it's because of Astrid who found the like it was so convoluted and they spend the first half hour maybe 40 minutes with getting them there and putting all the pieces in motion
Chris (44:41.567)
Yeah.
Matt (44:43.869)
I paused at that point because I had to go do something and I came back and it was like 40 plus minutes of getting... Yeah, yeah.
Luciano (44:49.302)
There you go. Yeah. It's too much in an hour and a half movie. Yeah. So I cut like half of these plots and I honestly, of all of the plots, I think the most fun one would have been, I think the Jeremy one, like just from the beginning, having it be that instead of it being like, because of the Loris one is too, first of all, too, how do you say it?
Chris (45:07.211)
Yeah.
Chris (45:16.311)
too much and useless.
Luciano (45:17.41)
It's not just too much, it's like it's too generic and too...
Chris (45:21.813)
Well, we'll never know because they didn't do anything with it. Like they showed us, showed us, like, it's like, it's like window, like they showed us this thing, this, this, this like delicious thing in the window, but we don't know what it's like because we never get to taste it. Yes. And like to plus one on two year, like the Jeremy plot like thread, would have been good. And that would have connect potentially connected to the father thing because the biggest, my biggest problem with this movie is that it lacked heart except.
Luciano (45:30.359)
Yeah, it's...
Yeah, it's a cardboard cutout. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Luciano (45:47.405)
Yeah, yeah.
Chris (45:51.819)
for Astrid's, like the Astrid's relationship or longing for her father, which Lydia was also very, like very disclosed off to that aspect and part, which was very unsettling and weird for me.
Luciano (45:55.374)
True. True.
Luciano (46:03.874)
I just, I just went on a rider being checked out.
That's what it felt like at least.
Chris (46:10.887)
yeah. And they did Lydia, like they did Lydia's character dirty. She had so much more backbone in the first one, but like, sure, real life situations, life change, loss, okay. But it's like, she stopped being a parent to her daughter after that event. It's as, I guess she just shipped her off to private school, I guess. It hap- that could happen, I guess.
Luciano (46:17.399)
Yeah.
Luciano (46:31.084)
Which honestly is not unrealistic in like in how, but then again, lean into it. Don't just like give it to me as a throwaway. by the way, she has depression. Don't do that. Like either don't do it or explore it. Don't just throw it away. It's like, it's a bunch of like balls in the air, but did nothing really goes anywhere because.
Matt (46:40.394)
Yes.
Chris (46:54.583)
Mmm.
Luciano (46:58.956)
The Jeremy plot gets solved by Dill's ex Machina or Diablo's ex Machina in this case, I guess, because he's a demon. The Dolores storyline gets hand wormed for also no good reason.
Chris (47:04.287)
Hahaha
Chris (47:12.971)
flat.
Matt (47:13.011)
Because because it's in the book, right? Like it just like happens to be a chapter in the book to explain the exact situation.
Luciano (47:17.25)
Yeah. How convenient. Where is church lady when you need her? How convenient.
Matt (47:20.725)
And it's not like if they, if they had, if she had got the book and you see her like going through the book and reading it and trying to learn stuff and the book isn't, you know, in a reasonable manner, it would be fine. But it's just like her mom grabs the book and then at the very end, when things are going bad, she rips through and just happens to find the right page. like, it's not wrong to have coincidences or conveniences in a movie, but
Chris (47:21.854)
Hahaha
Luciano (47:35.992)
They just leaf through it. Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (47:46.765)
Mm-hmm.
Matt (47:47.327)
They relied heavily on it. Like why, why is the dad a ticket clerk in
Luciano (47:52.096)
Yeah. And just happened in the whole of afterlife. Why would he be there to see her? Yeah, there's no reason for it.
Matt (47:56.575)
Yeah.
Matt (48:00.332)
Right.
Yeah. then why do they, why do they know if they draw a circle on the floor, it'll bring in a sandworm to, to eat Dolores and Rory.
Chris (48:12.769)
Rory and Dolores, yeah. A lot of questions.
Luciano (48:16.502)
And what to me, here's the question that I was, you as I was watching the movie and ever since I saw Monica Bellucci or Dolores re-staple herself, I was like, what does she actually want? Does she want to kill him? He's dead. So that's a problem.
Matt (48:34.633)
Yes. Double kill him. Well she, she, she has the power of soul sucking and as a rock hard Jackson, what's his name? Wolf Jackson.
Chris (48:34.731)
Yeah.
Chris (48:42.391)
True.
Chris (48:48.341)
Wolf Jackson? You've fallen into the... You've been blue-bold affected.
Luciano (48:48.398)
Rock... yeah Rock... His name is Rockhard Jackson. He died with an erection.
Matt (48:55.573)
As rock has rock our Jackson has told us She will kill you dead dead so like They they create this situation where someone can double murder you in the afterlife fine. It's your world. You can describe it how you want but But she just wants to kill him because he killed her
Chris (49:08.599)
Hmm.
Hmm.
Luciano (49:16.793)
And she also kills other people for no reason.
Matt (49:20.149)
Just to prove she has the power to dead-dead them. It's fine to do it in Danny DeVito once, we get it. I have no idea what any of the rest of the killing the guy and the wedding dress, I have no idea like...
Luciano (49:23.31)
Yeah.
Luciano (49:30.44)
What what is it? Okay, so she's a soul sucker. What is what is the benefit? Yeah, is she eating? Is that what she's doing?
Chris (49:30.813)
My exactly. Is it sustenance?
Chris (49:37.427)
See, look at us. Look at us, viewers. Look at us spiral into the madness of Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. gosh.
Matt (49:41.504)
Listeners.
Matt (49:45.287)
It is, Chris, you're right. It's like there's, we talk about John Wick all the time as being the poster movie we like to reference in terms of it's cool when you don't explain all the plot. Because sometimes it's nice to imagine things. When they talk about the world and the continental and the coins, mystery is good there. Because we understand what coins, coins are doing what coins normally do. They buy things. How do you get to coins? are the, you know?
Luciano (49:56.044)
Yeah.
Chris (50:02.731)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (50:10.562)
They do this in this movie too. Where does the Soul Train go? It goes to a bunch of, there's a bunch of station names. That's it. That's perfect. Just leave it at that, right?
Matt (50:17.897)
Yeah. Right. Yeah. And they do at times the book, you know, the book telling Jimmy how to take, sorry, Jeremy.
Chris (50:18.824)
Ayyyy
Luciano (50:29.002)
J-J-J-J-
Chris (50:29.715)
No, keep it. I caught it the first time and I was like, if I'm okay with it, but now stick it. Stick the landing, my man. Jirurumi. Jimuri. Jimuri.
Matt (50:31.765)
Yeah.
Yeah, Jimmy Jare, gives him the idea of how he can, Jimmary, thank you. It tells Jimmy, Jimmary how he can get back to, to the real life, right? but like, first we find out he's dead and then we find out he murdered his parents. okay. Like why, why did he murder his parents? Like.
Luciano (50:35.384)
Jim Jeremy.
You
Luciano (50:48.012)
Yeah.
Chris (50:54.903)
Yeah.
Luciano (50:54.977)
Right.
Luciano (51:01.282)
They don't say? They make up some bullshit reason like, he was crazy or whatever. But again, no time to elaborate. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris (51:06.347)
Yeah.
Matt (51:06.537)
Right. And so like, but that's where you lose me. If you're not going to tell me characters motivations, like you can, you can, you don't have to tell me how a coin works or how a hotel works for serial, not serial, assassins. That's cool. You don't have to tell me how this book works. There's just information and I get it. But when you don't tell me why a character wants something that I don't know what's happening. It's not the same thing at all.
Chris (51:13.995)
Yeah.
Chris (51:19.607)
Yeah
Luciano (51:28.526)
Yeah, it's not the same thing. A MacGuffin you can leave unexplained. You don't ever need to see what's inside the briefcase in Pulp Fiction. You don't, right? But if you don't know why the characters are doing what they're doing, it's like, why am I watching this? Why do I care about what these guys are doing?
Chris (51:32.811)
This movie.
Matt (51:35.274)
Yes.
Chris (51:56.257)
You guys, I think I've cracked it. I think we've, we've, we've, we've, we've workshopped and we've sleuthed this movie to, the point of, of return. This movie is chock-a-box full of NP fucking Cs.
Matt (51:57.919)
Great, thank God. Tell me.
Luciano (52:13.302)
Yeah, that's it. All the main characters are NPCs, you're right. You're absolutely right.
Matt (52:14.485)
Yeah.
Chris (52:18.155)
This movie has no, it's lacking the heart like we highlighted and it's also lacking more like the edge that the OG version did because with the Jeremy plot line, the horror of the reveal that he killed his parents, they could have leaned into that and they were scary moments in the OG Beetlejuice, right? So, yeah.
Matt (52:40.533)
And what do we know about NPCs? What do NPCs do to you in a video game?
Chris (52:47.051)
They repeat. You burn up all their lives and you talk to them again.
Matt (52:54.971)
Fair, the way I look at it is like they distract you from the main quest.
Chris (52:56.794)
Yes.
Luciano (52:59.308)
Yeah. Not, all of them, but like any NPC not related to the main quest is there to waste your time.
Chris (52:59.735)
Ooooo
Matt (53:05.877)
Yes. Yeah. And that's the thing, they're not just NPCs, they're like side quest NPCs. Yeah. They're just here when you come to the town on the main quest and they're like, discover the town. Can you please go kill me and get me six boar livers? Yeah, 800 chickens. I 50 porcupine quills and you're gonna have to kill like 100 of them because not every porcupine has a quill for some reason. That's this movie.
Luciano (53:10.858)
side, there side quest givers. Yeah.
Chris (53:11.496)
Mmmmm
Luciano (53:20.942)
800 chickens. Yeah.
Luciano (53:33.1)
Yeah, now this is giving me wow flashbacks of killing rocks. Get me 99 rock feathers and you kill one and it drops zero feathers. like, what is this magic that I have that defathers all of these fucking birds? Yeah. So this movie is a collection of side quests without a main quest. I think that's yeah.
Chris (53:37.303)
Uhhh...
Matt (53:37.917)
You're welcome.
Chris (53:47.787)
Hahaha!
Matt (53:48.085)
That's, that is,
Chris (53:51.229)
You have collected none.
Matt (53:57.855)
Yeah, and that's perfect example, then, and like that, none of the side quests really connect. Yeah, yeah. You just do a bunch of side quests and then all of sudden we're done. It's like, am I finished the game? Did I win?
Luciano (54:03.36)
Matter. Yeah. Yeah.
Chris (54:04.66)
Ork Matter. Connect or Matter.
Luciano (54:11.094)
Wait, what? Yeah, the most unsatisfying end in the world like was like, wait, was that the store? What? Yeah.
Chris (54:14.055)
Wait.
Matt (54:23.093)
So who's?
Chris (54:23.723)
should complete 75 % of the game all I have left is a quarter what
Matt (54:28.201)
Who's the, so who was the big bad, was it Dolores? Was it Petrusius? it the priest? Like who did I?
Luciano (54:28.215)
Yeah.
Luciano (54:32.725)
It was supposed to be, it was supposed to be Dolores,
Well, the priest is the bad guy in another story that we should probably not talk about. That priest was sus as fuck. So sus.
Matt (54:41.459)
that's fair.
Matt (54:45.919)
But yeah.
Chris (54:47.69)
Did any of you laugh during Charles Deet's funeral after it concluded and then Delia is off to the side and the priest tries to come over and console her and he's like quote quote quote quote quote quote quote quote quote quote sermon and she's like, what? What? What? And she wasn't like, it was like that didn't help me at all.
Matt (55:05.661)
I didn't understand anything you said.
Luciano (55:07.476)
Yeah.
Chris (55:15.541)
What the fuck did you just say? See?
Matt (55:17.845)
That's the whole movie in a nutshell. We rambled a bit, but we rambled because the point is is that the plot is just...
It's, it's, it's, it's side plots. As we said, it's side quests. And so it's so hard to dig through all these little side plots to figure out where the plot holes are. When the reality is, like, if you. Yeah. You've just tied a bunch of like plots together and then, but they're all misshapen. And so when you look between them all, it's just like, there's a gaping hole here and a gaping hole here and a gaping hole here. But.
Luciano (55:32.406)
Yeah.
Chris (55:38.039)
Ugh.
Luciano (55:39.756)
The holes are in between, right?
Luciano (55:45.656)
Yeah.
Chris (55:51.351)
the
Luciano (55:52.182)
Yeah, that's exactly right. And the solution isn't like we are sometimes we talk about how we resolve this pick pick a fucking plot and stick with it. Just that one
Matt (55:58.291)
Yes, exactly.
Matt (56:02.357)
Because that's it. The solution isn't to put some glue or some whatever to connect them all. It's just kill two.
Luciano (56:08.385)
No.
Luciano (56:13.134)
And I'm going to say, think the, I said this before, the one to do this with would be the Jeremy plot. Cause you can, you can rope everyone in. If, if it was starting from the beginning with him making a plan for escaping, you could get, you know, rock hard Johnson on, it's, I said what I said. You get a rock hard Johnson involved because you know, someone trying to escape the, or, know, the, the afterlife and.
Matt (56:20.819)
Yes.
Chris (56:26.784)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (56:41.665)
Jeremy, AKA, I wrote in my notes before, I call him Ghost Throbby. Because he's a heart, he's supposed to be a heart throb, right? Ghost Throbby.
Matt (56:47.861)
Jesus. Well, if we're calling on rock hard.
Luciano (56:48.368)
I don't like that.
Luciano (56:54.107)
Yeah. The problem is like the the word throb is almost as bad as the word moist. So, so like, you know, you could rope everyone in all the characters in that could just, know, give, you know, have Monica Bellucci give her her pain back to the studio and get her out. Like it doesn't matter. Just stretch the, the, the Jeremy plot to cover the whole movie. Yeah.
Matt (56:54.441)
That sounds like a ghost penis. Anyways.
Matt (57:00.968)
Yeah.
Chris (57:02.558)
Anyways.
Matt (57:17.587)
Yep. It's all there. It's all there, right? The movie starts with Charles dying. Great. You have your incident to get her back to the town. And then she meets him and they can spend some more time together. Yeah. Before you discover it all. And then they spend more time in the afterlife. It's not just as easy as showing up and switching her out and getting a number, her, your stamp and then leaving type thing.
Chris (57:26.422)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (57:30.196)
Yeah, a longer time before you discover it actually.
Chris (57:30.422)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (57:36.62)
Mm-hmm.
Luciano (57:43.703)
Yeah.
Matt (57:45.147)
And then, you know, the mom's already messed up and she's confused, but when she realizes what's happening, just like she does in the movie, of course she turns to Beetlejuice because she needs help and she doesn't know and that all makes sense. And then, you know, you have to escape yourself from the clutches of Beetlejuice at the end. Great. That's all there. it's there. Like the story's there. You just have to, you need some filler there, but it's maybe like meeting someone in the afterlife to help outside of Beetlejuice or something. It's, sure.
Chris (58:09.889)
Charles, like the dad, Charles's dad. mean, the Charles Dietz maybe, I don't know. Or the real father, sorry, sorry.
Matt (58:14.037)
No, because you can't well you could yeah, I mean it's fine. You can't use Charles Steets because he's he's a monster in real life But but you're right you could just have you could have if you're gonna have his head chopped off Then you have a reason to be there he can help or you can find the real dad But maybe it's a little bit harder to find the real dad. isn't just Conveniently yeah, Richard isn't just but it's all that right. It's like that's the solve for this is just It feels like yeah, I don't want to this horse better than it already is
Luciano (58:14.22)
Yeah.
Chris (58:19.957)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I meant to say the father.
Luciano (58:21.277)
Hahaha!
Chris (58:31.913)
Richard. Yeah.
Chris (58:36.15)
Yeah.
Chris (58:42.784)
Yeah.
Luciano (58:43.348)
You might kill it dead dead.
Matt (58:45.279)
Dead Dead, yeah, there was Dead Dead apparently.
Luciano (58:48.098)
Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it. It's just pick a plot and run with it. Give it time to, you know, unfurl.
Chris (58:50.058)
NPCs man
Matt (58:57.097)
Yeah. Let's, let's, unfurl some questions. Hey man, mine was professional segue. You can't just say segue. That's unprofessional sir. Nope. You can't tell the audience. You can't say segue. That's not professional.
Chris (58:58.18)
Good one, unfurl. Let's segue. Cha chao!
Luciano (59:01.759)
Hehehehe
Chris (59:07.563)
I'm trying to be supportive. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. You were doing it.
can do whatever I want. Listen, we were in a very low place as a team just now. Let's keep the team, let's get the energy back up, okay? With the wonderful word from our sponsor. We don't have a sponsor. It'd be great if we had a sponsor, you know? Because then we could do things like real placements, maybe make some money to buy coffees and donuts, I don't know.
Luciano (59:13.998)
I think...
Luciano (59:18.837)
Hahaha
Luciano (59:31.374)
I don't know what just happened, but you know, this is I was going to say this is why we needed like a like a visual combo just just just as segue
Chris (59:33.099)
Don't worry. See?
Matt (59:33.599)
Segway!
Matt (59:39.593)
Professional segue. Professional segue, which is now just segue. We'll fix it in post, it'll be fine. I have some fun questions for you. Where should I start? You know how the Bobs, I'm calling them the Bobs, even though I saw one had a name tag with like Brad or Billy or something. They're all Bobs. So, Beetlejuice breaks into the afterlife.
Chris (59:43.593)
Zoom.
Luciano (59:48.536)
No, we won't.
Chris (01:00:01.117)
to me in the heart.
Luciano (01:00:01.272)
They're all bobs in our hearts.
Matt (01:00:09.011)
he gets Lydia in and he leaves a hole in the wall and he's like make sure all the bobs work and as soon as he leaves the bobs all run out and run down and scare the shit out of and then we never see them again. Where are they? What are they doing? What? Why are? What's happening with the bobs? Because Rockhard does clearly does not go and get them.
Luciano (01:00:14.009)
Yes.
Luciano (01:00:18.721)
You
Luciano (01:00:22.659)
Right.
Luciano (01:00:29.942)
I think I will... No, Rockhard Johnson just stays there with his dick in his mouth, in his mouth, in his hand.
Chris (01:00:33.491)
Nah.
Matt (01:00:38.003)
Yeah. Okay. Damn. Well, Willem's just catching strays.
Luciano (01:00:41.55)
It was a Friday and sleep if I've ever seen one I was gonna say I think I work with a couple of those bobs if I'm honest
Chris (01:00:42.967)
you
Matt (01:00:52.329)
Wow. Okay.
Luciano (01:00:55.67)
Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's how they sound.
Chris (01:01:00.992)
Let's not tell people where we work. I don't have any Bobs on my side, but I think that I think the Bobs are and I'm sorry for your Bob loss I think Bob Ross Bob loss Let's put some respect on Bob Ross's name. I think the Bobs are Each living their best afterlife life
Luciano (01:01:03.575)
Yeah.
Luciano (01:01:10.338)
Bob Ross?
Chris (01:01:22.507)
I think they're out there trying to pursue their passions. One is probably trying to get on on on PBS, trying to get a show off the ground on on the the the virtues of gardening and getting your hands into the earth like because he misses it so much. Like he hasn't touched dirt. He hasn't touched grass. And who knows how we don't know how old these bombs are. Could have been a millennia. I don't know. So that's one. You know, and then the other I got one more. OK.
Luciano (01:01:44.876)
Yeah, those heads are really shrunken. who knows? Yeah. I think I heard that there's one trying to get a remake of office space going, but like after life edition.
Chris (01:01:55.991)
Excuse me. Excuse me. My stapler. Excuse me. And I think there's... you?
Luciano (01:02:01.974)
Yeah. I was going to say just instead of beating up a printer, they beat up Bill juice in the movie, which I think it's Yeah.
Chris (01:02:13.062)
I asked for my death day off. Because you know, the script has been flipped. And then another Bob, he's, he's or they, I don't know, he's been, he's been trying to fill the void of his hero, Anthony Bourdain. And so he's traveling the world.
Luciano (01:02:16.739)
Yeah.
Chris (01:02:35.223)
Because he didn't get to, he wasn't traveled before. Now he's going around, he's going to Portugal. He's going, yes.
Matt (01:02:40.117)
Chris, could one of the Bobs just be Anthony Bourdain?
Luciano (01:02:46.39)
I mean, yes, now he could be.
It's incredibly dark, but you know.
Matt (01:02:54.943)
Maybe Anthony Borendade talked to the wrong person in the afterlife.
Luciano (01:02:58.44)
got his head shrunken and now he's working he works he works in a random generic office doing generic office things that is fair can he eat that would be sad if Anthony Bourdain couldn't eat anymore
Chris (01:03:00.668)
Try to skip the line.
Matt (01:03:06.643)
He can't talk, so how would you know?
Matt (01:03:13.395)
That's why Chris is right, he got out and he's back to eating.
Luciano (01:03:19.406)
He has a Bourdain after dark food show where he writes itself. The only problem is he makes all of that great food but then he can't eat it because he can't open his mouth.
Matt (01:03:27.007)
Yeah, Bourdain Afterlife. Come on, it writes itself.
Chris (01:03:35.977)
And like, he's clearly avoiding all kinds of, all kinds of, I don't want to say OSHA, but what's the food, what's the food grade? What do call those? Food grade? F-
Matt (01:03:45.927)
FDA.
Luciano (01:03:46.646)
What you mean like the the health inspection stuff? Yeah.
Matt (01:03:50.069)
Conditional passes.
Chris (01:03:50.101)
Yeah, cause he's... Actually, he might be fine because he's probably like wearing gloves and...
Luciano (01:03:56.142)
But being dead I feel has a detrimental effect on your permission to handle food.
Chris (01:04:03.169)
So maybe he oversees, because he did some hiring and, you know, you know, it's their time to shine. Like this is their afterlife life career we're talking about.
Luciano (01:04:07.19)
Maybe the bobs are pretty tall. It can oversee stuff.
Matt (01:04:14.505)
Hey Chris, think it's okay that if we're gonna let undead zombie demons roam the earth cooking food. I don't think we need to worry about if it's approved by OSHA or the FDA. We can let the whimsy fly a little farther, extend out a bit. Let us have that one. Yeah, sure. Listen, I can tell you it's not whimsical, but.
Luciano (01:04:27.756)
We have bigger problems, yeah. it's whimsy. Whimsy is what it is. Foot poisoning is whimsy. There is a reason why we skipped a week.
Chris (01:04:40.267)
The bar is quite low and so this is like.
Matt (01:04:44.725)
But Bob Bourdain fed me some food and it did not go well for me. Dain? Anthony Boff Dain presents...
Chris (01:04:49.537)
Bob Bourdain!
Luciano (01:04:49.718)
Nice. Anthony, Anthony Bob Dane. Come on.
Chris (01:04:56.651)
Because he can't cup- Yes.
Luciano (01:05:00.184)
Bourdain Afterlife. Bob Dane Afterlife.
Matt (01:05:00.275)
What is it? Pop Day and Afterlife. Pop Day and Afterlife, yeah.
Chris (01:05:01.815)
The Bordaining. The Bordainment. Because he can't, I don't know, are there rules to this? Like I don't know, like if you get back out into the, you can't assume your previous persona, your alive persona, can you? You gotta.
Luciano (01:05:11.168)
No, he's just a, he's just a, you know.
Luciano (01:05:19.596)
Well, he's trying to get back to that, you know.
Matt (01:05:21.781)
Yeah, there's clearly a vacuum in the market space for where he was.
Luciano (01:05:26.563)
He's still trying to recapture his glory days of living.
Chris (01:05:30.069)
Mm-hmm. Okay.
Matt (01:05:30.109)
Yeah. I mean, he just got, he escaped. You know, he's just trying to find his way in the world. You know, where was it? Maybe five years from now, he's figured out it's not what his true passion is. And he switches to, you know, like artwork. We don't know. But for this moment in this Bob's, Bob Dane's life, he's back. He's back, baby.
Luciano (01:05:36.406)
Yeah, he's going he's gonna fall back on what he knows best
Luciano (01:05:51.086)
I don't know, man. think he would go the other direction, go hard into the food store. He would have like an undead chef show, like a reality show for other, Yeah. And then you have like Gordon Ramsay saying, this is rancid. And the other undead are go, yeah, that's what I like. Rancid is what I like.
Chris (01:06:00.968)
my gosh, like, bam! Dead!
Chris (01:06:09.515)
You got that right.
Chris (01:06:13.705)
It's like, it's true. It's an untapped market. Like hipsters and so on be like, have you tried this, this amuse bouche? It ruins your, your taste buds and you know, and foot in mouth disease. You've got to try it.
Luciano (01:06:24.718)
It gives your foot poison and diarrhea.
Matt (01:06:28.115)
Have you ever... Have you ever had your body so completely ruined?
Chris (01:06:36.138)
that you have to go on a cleanse for three months.
Luciano (01:06:36.366)
I I ate Anthony Bob Dane's hors d'oeuvres and it was like a cleanse I tell you just I'm my innards are entirely rebuilt yes for days I lost 20 pounds
Chris (01:06:44.297)
Yeah.
Matt (01:06:45.973)
Every single orifice cleansed.
Chris (01:06:51.393)
cleansed and and and it wasn't a good cleanse it was all of my water just expunged you know Bob Dane
Matt (01:06:55.007)
for days.
Luciano (01:07:00.236)
Yeah.
Matt (01:07:00.469)
Alright, I think we've nailed that one, thank you. But it does, we're talking about jobs for the Bobs, and it does bring me to another question in general. So we see the Soul Train. So when you die and you actually get processed, you're allowed to get on the Soul Train. But like, Rakhar's got a job, Piranha Dad's got a job,
Luciano (01:07:15.16)
Take care!
Chris (01:07:16.373)
See you
Luciano (01:07:21.421)
Right.
Luciano (01:07:29.314)
Beel just got up company.
Matt (01:07:30.293)
Penal choice has got a job. He's got a whole, He is an entrepreneur. How do you get hired? How do you like, don't know, you guys tell me, like, is it a choice? Are you barred from the Soul Train? Like how does this all work?
Chris (01:07:31.829)
He got a, what is it? Yeah.
Luciano (01:07:33.474)
He's an entrepreneur.
Chris (01:07:49.601)
think it's like a window of, I think it's a window that I feel like, I feel like it's like, if you have unfinished business, have to make a choice. I think there are a lot of, there's still choice in the afterlife if you're aware of it. Otherwise you get swept up into like, into a flow. And so, yeah, what do you think?
Luciano (01:07:53.709)
Well...
Luciano (01:08:07.872)
I don't know about that man. Cause look, look at the ones that actually have jobs. It's Piranha Dad. It's that blonde lady. Spearheart. The younger, slightly weird sister of Braveheart. Spearheart. Yeah. You have Rockhart Johnson. They're all white. None of them know how to dance.
Matt (01:08:15.135)
Yeah. Spearheart.
Yeah.
Matt (01:08:31.323)
Now what about the blue cops?
Luciano (01:08:33.634)
What about them? They're blue because they're dead. They used to be white. Yeah, that's the thing. You have to know how to dance to go to the Soul Train. Yeah, a little bit. So if you don't have like some Latino blood or something, you can go. Yeah.
Matt (01:08:35.711)
They're all... They're all...
Wow. That's, you're assuming a lot, sir.
Chris (01:08:45.867)
to get on the Soul Train. You gotta have rhythm in order to go to the next, to go to the beyond. It's, huh, Caribbean blood or.
Matt (01:08:49.521)
Matt (01:08:54.99)
What about the Mormons?
Luciano (01:08:57.73)
What about him?
Matt (01:08:58.857)
Do they get jobs or do they go on the salt train?
Chris (01:09:01.655)
They get jobs. They get jobs. Because the Great Beyond, if you talk to the afterlife management, the Great Beyond is another club. It's an ongoing party. Like Club 54? Studio 54? I don't know.
Luciano (01:09:02.444)
I think they would default the jobs.
Matt (01:09:05.48)
Okay.
Matt (01:09:12.469)
Sure. so this really, this really is just Coco. That's fine. no big deal. So, okay. But like Charles, Charles can dance cause he can't dance. He had to be, he had to be in. Yeah. No, but in the original Beelzebub he can't dance. He had to be, possessed. Yeah. So that does that count?
Chris (01:09:23.584)
in charge.
Luciano (01:09:25.868)
That is true. You have to have a full body to dance.
Chris (01:09:29.545)
No, you don't. He doesn't even have a head and he could talk in the afterlife.
Luciano (01:09:33.026)
That is true.
Chris (01:09:37.271)
Possessed?
Luciano (01:09:37.602)
Puppeteered, yeah.
Chris (01:09:40.011)
But it happened. His body was moved in ways, you know, and when you learn how to move your body and stuff, even if you're puppeted, there are benefits to that. There are benefits to that. can...
Luciano (01:09:41.878)
Maybe, maybe he, maybe some muscle memory stayed, right?
Matt (01:09:54.185)
I gotta be
Luciano (01:09:54.774)
Hey, Mr. Caliman, call me banana.
Chris (01:09:59.797)
Too late, can't let anyone go!
Luciano (01:10:00.75)
They absolutely fucking butchered that song in the stupid like fucking no in the beginning when they do the funeral. I hated it. Anyway.
Chris (01:10:08.703)
at the end, the wedding.
Matt (01:10:12.437)
Fine. It was for the children.
Luciano (01:10:16.376)
No, think there's a combination of, it was by the children, because children were singing it. I think it's a combination, going back to your question, of not having rhythm, maybe having the right or wrong religion, depending on your viewpoint. And I guess you could, like, to Chris's point, I want to yes and his idea. I think it's a choice to somebody. If you really want,
Chris (01:10:18.375)
It was for the children like Wu-Tang? Nah, by the children, but it wasn't for the children. Okay, okay, okay.
Matt (01:10:23.529)
for the children.
Chris (01:10:36.991)
Losing my religion
Luciano (01:10:46.06)
that nine to five, you know, booth job to, you know, really replicate the best, best parts of your life. You know, who is the afterlife to deny that to you?
Chris (01:11:00.151)
We need someone in booth 17. Richard, you're new. Richard, is Richard here? Is Richard? You're now in booth 17. it's better than shoveling.
Matt (01:11:13.013)
does.
Call on a space ship.
Mm-hmm. Cheers. Don't know I got that reference from.
Chris (01:11:19.979)
Yes, yes, yes, it gets everywhere, everywhere on the body.
Matt (01:11:26.33)
Don't watch Rubblebone, just saying. Okay, no, I think this is all very valid. I have no further follow-up questions.
Chris (01:11:28.299)
Don't.
Luciano (01:11:39.49)
Fuck.
Why?
Matt (01:11:42.751)
We almost, we almost escaped. I have a different question. So we can skip past this. No, Jeremy, how does Jeremy skip the line and the afterlife? Cause everybody else that gets to the afterlife is like waiting line. Here's your number and you're going to die. And Jeremy just rolls off and is like, Hey, I'm here. And, XYZ and they, you know, he's through the line and
Chris (01:11:42.998)
Yo!
Chris (01:11:48.021)
Durn question? sraby.
Luciano (01:11:50.382)
Yes.
Chris (01:12:01.003)
millions.
Matt (01:12:12.689)
you know, 20 minutes, maybe half hour.
Chris (01:12:15.317)
Yeah, as Ghost Throbby once said, white privilege.
Luciano (01:12:18.27)
No, it's not a thing. I was actually going to say white privilege too, but that doesn't work. That doesn't work though, because there's ain't nobody wider than Delia and she has to go full Karen on the thing and she still doesn't get to skip the line. So I think it's more because.
Chris (01:12:23.394)
I thought she worked!
Chris (01:12:33.995)
Mm. Mm. Mm. Mm.
Matt (01:12:36.991)
patriarchy
Luciano (01:12:41.826)
make sense. I was gonna say it might be because of the way that he was there like maybe it was like a accelerated program or he had some sort of VIP pass. Yeah.
Chris (01:12:43.287)
Yeah.
Chris (01:12:50.199)
because of the loophole with the sole. And it's time sensitive procedure.
Luciano (01:12:58.732)
Yeah, he has priority shipping from Amazon Prime.
Matt (01:13:02.837)
Do you have to pay part of your soul to get that?
Luciano (01:13:09.346)
Yeah, I mean just like we have to do when we pay for Amazon Prime. He has to give a part of his soul.
Matt (01:13:13.577)
That is true. That is actually true. Yeah, that makes sense on that tracks.
Chris (01:13:18.729)
It adds up. That's an equation. White privilege.
Luciano (01:13:20.193)
There you go, yeah, I think that that's why he He gave a little bit of his soul to Jeff Bezos and he got further the front of the line
Matt (01:13:20.394)
Yeah.
Matt (01:13:28.789)
Yeah, he had Amazon Prime in life and he kept it in death and that's how I got to the front of the line.
Luciano (01:13:34.99)
There you go. Now, basis is the devil is what we're saying.
Chris (01:13:35.435)
Paisos is dead.
Okay. Administration power.
Luciano (01:13:42.606)
Yeah, you're not wrong.
Matt (01:13:45.161)
He's not wrong at all. okay. Fair enough. Good answers. Hey, the handbook for the recently deceased.
Luciano (01:13:54.147)
Mm-hmm.
Chris (01:13:54.839)
Go on.
Matt (01:13:55.955)
We see pages of the book and it kind of covers, we see it covers the sand worms and I guess there's instructions on how to steal someone's soul and open up a door or whatnot. But we don't really know what's in it. So I'm curious, what are some of the important chapters in that handbook?
Luciano (01:14:12.598)
That is a good question.
Matt (01:14:13.596)
Obviously one is Amazon Prime for the recently deceased.
Chris (01:14:17.183)
Yeah. Do you have a package? A package? How do you send a package from one side to the other side?
Luciano (01:14:17.294)
100 %
Luciano (01:14:22.484)
No, no, that like the first like 10, 12 pages of that chapter is how to pee in a bottle. That's what so you get there because you're working for Amazon now.
Matt (01:14:32.415)
Why do you have to pee in a bottle?
Matt (01:14:38.205)
You work for Amazon when you die? I thought you just could have Amazon Prime. I didn't realize you were.
Luciano (01:14:40.244)
It's, yeah.
You could, it's both, it's how you pay for it.
Matt (01:14:48.105)
Ooh, okay. Fair enough. That sucks. That's a real shock. That really shocked me.
Luciano (01:14:49.148)
It's hard. Afterlife is hard, yeah.
Chris (01:14:50.772)
Ectoplasm urine?
Luciano (01:14:53.696)
Ectoplasm, yeah. Yeah. What else they have there?
Chris (01:14:58.597)
Are you okay? There's also there's also the chapter
Luciano (01:15:03.268)
Taxes for the recently deceased? Probably.
Matt (01:15:05.599)
Sure. Yeah, you gotta pay your taxes.
Chris (01:15:05.879)
Mmm.
Luciano (01:15:08.269)
Yeah.
Chris (01:15:08.843)
The only thing sure in life is death and taxes and you only think sure after life is death and death and taxes There's also There's also what what do you do?
Luciano (01:15:12.488)
And in death. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Chris (01:15:28.329)
I blanked, I pass. I'm kidding.
Luciano (01:15:29.159)
Yeah, it was like, what do do when you don't know how to answer the question, but you already started answering. There's like three chapters about that alone.
Matt (01:15:30.396)
Hahaha
Matt (01:15:35.795)
You have the space.
Chris (01:15:36.368)
Well, I just needed more time. I buffered.
Matt (01:15:38.453)
There's three chapters that are actually just completely blank. They want to leave space in case they adjust the volume.
Luciano (01:15:43.318)
That tracks.
Chris (01:15:44.757)
See, did, we did, we got there, but.
Luciano (01:15:49.678)
No, they wanted to get to 666 pages, so they just...
Chris (01:15:50.997)
It's a living document. But there's so many scenarios across the whole experience, right? The whole life after life experience. It's a living document that constantly grows. If ever they made a Beetlejuice like three or whatever, and I don't think they should. It would be great if the book got larger, significantly larger where more scenarios could unfold. Because we had scenarios that we couldn't have foreseen happen here. Another chapter that takes place is like,
Matt (01:15:53.215)
It's true.
Luciano (01:16:08.376)
You
Chris (01:16:20.769)
How do you handle food? How do you handle food in the afterlife? It's very important.
Matt (01:16:24.931)
But it turns out it's like two pages, right?
Luciano (01:16:27.552)
No, it was two pages, but now that Anthony Bob Dane is a thing, he's writing that chapter.
Matt (01:16:29.321)
Yeah.
Matt (01:16:33.232)
No, but Anthony and Bob Dayne is in the mortal world.
Luciano (01:16:36.206)
Yeah, but he can still like you we've seen the book in the modern world too
Matt (01:16:40.373)
But you can't add to it if you're in the mortal world. You gotta die to add to it. It's a read-only. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For him to be able to take all his knowledge back, he's gotta die. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Luciano (01:16:42.414)
I see that's a read-only copy I see I see okay see it has to has to come back that's Beetlejuice 3 Beetlejuice 3 the Bob Dayne expansion
Chris (01:16:45.591)
Mmm.
Luciano (01:16:56.94)
That tracks, yeah.
Chris (01:16:57.04)
chasing his
Matt (01:16:58.453)
Yeah. Anything about dealing with the afterlife or... No. No. Okay. That's fair. No. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yes.
Luciano (01:17:03.187)
No, nothing like that. Why would you need that? It's not like you're in a completely new situation that you have no idea how to deal with.
Chris (01:17:07.724)
Entrepreneurialism for after lifers, like you want to start a business.
Luciano (01:17:12.008)
there's a short chapter like a page or two on how to dye clothes with your bare hands. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what if what if the dress is red and you want it to be black? What are going to do? No, no, no, it's just like just clothes dying. Dying. It's called dying and clothes dying. That's what it's called.
Matt (01:17:19.857)
Right, yeah that's good, that's important one just in case you're you're wearing clothes.
Chris (01:17:22.145)
tie dyes.
or not.
So seamstressing, what is it? Tailoring?
Matt (01:17:33.671)
Yeah, it's not tailoring. Er.
Chris (01:17:38.687)
I thought it was called Dying for the Dead.
Matt (01:17:40.905)
dying and you, colon close. And yeah, yeah.
Luciano (01:17:45.87)
Yeah, that works.
Chris (01:17:46.815)
I also think it's, there's also since.
We see next to no real technology in the afterlife and a lot of it's like paper processing. think there's also a chapter in terms of like there's a map of the afterlife in terms of like a lot of the businesses and in what districts they exist around stationary, because so much of what we've seen is paper-based. So stationary, bookstores, where to get, how to get to them. That also brings up the question of
to do in an afterlife library.
Matt (01:18:22.281)
You've basically just described afterlife yellow pages.
Chris (01:18:26.667)
See? You gotta know. Wait, what?
Luciano (01:18:27.586)
But they're white, because they're dead.
Matt (01:18:30.074)
Yeah, obviously.
Luciano (01:18:31.714)
Yeah, the yellow page has died and it became white because you got paler.
Chris (01:18:34.591)
Why aren't they? thought, well, thought you would, well, you know what? Actually, I'll take that. I'll take that because if you said the black pages, then that probably would have been a problem.
Matt (01:18:37.481)
The color drains out of you. Yeah.
Luciano (01:18:39.403)
Exactly.
Luciano (01:18:43.574)
Yeah, I would not have said black pages then.
Matt (01:18:45.429)
We're not gonna go there.
Chris (01:18:47.347)
I- I- See is why I trust y'all motherfuckers.
Luciano (01:18:51.992)
Yeah, what else? think there's also, you know, when you go to like a shopping mall and there's like a you are here sort of situation. So that's like the last page of the book is sort of like an iterative magical map.
Matt (01:18:52.146)
Alright, I-
Chris (01:18:52.225)
Thank you for, yeah. yeah.
Mm-hmm
unfolding paper, map, similar to like Harry Potter.
Matt (01:19:05.85)
And because it is the afterlife, it is like a thousand folds. Yeah.
Luciano (01:19:10.33)
100%, yeah. And every time you turn the book, like it changes completely.
Chris (01:19:12.128)
It like turns.
Matt (01:19:14.527)
Yeah, 100%. You can never fold it back up. Yeah.
Chris (01:19:15.223)
Pretty cool.
Luciano (01:19:17.366)
and you can never find where you're going. Yeah.
Chris (01:19:17.941)
And if you look at the index, can also find the section on how to Beyblade battle in the afterlife. Those things are loud.
Matt (01:19:26.547)
very important. No, it's actually that's how you get your social standing in the afterlife. Yeah, it's be a play. Okay, I think we've covered this. Yeah, obviously, I think we've covered this pretty succinctly.
Luciano (01:19:31.552)
Yeah, yeah. It's the bar the bar the barter system in the afterlife is babe lady.
Chris (01:19:34.159)
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
Luciano (01:19:42.998)
No, we didn't. It was extensive, not succinct.
Chris (01:19:44.159)
As one does. Yes and, yes and Luciano, yes and.
Matt (01:19:44.357)
We did. Well, it's only a couple of chapters. We can't cover every chapter in the book. That would be giving away some secrets. Yeah, always growing.
Luciano (01:19:50.69)
That is fair. That book is big.
Chris (01:19:51.831)
Because it's a living document, it's always growing.
Like Rockhar Jackson.
Luciano (01:19:57.735)
Nice, nice.
Matt (01:19:58.963)
Wow. From the mind that brought you Thrabi comes always growing a rock art Johnson.
Chris (01:20:05.067)
Listen!
Luciano (01:20:07.714)
That was his nickname in high school.
Matt (01:20:09.5)
Yeah, Thravi.
Chris (01:20:09.911)
It is yearbook photo. Keep on trucking always growing.
Luciano (01:20:11.306)
No, always growing. Yeah.
Yeah, always.
Matt (01:20:16.935)
Rock hard, Thravi quotes Johnson.
Chris (01:20:23.5)
The rocks may throbbing Johnson man Jackson Please
Matt (01:20:26.389)
Let's review this godforsaken movie and get the fuck out of here. We use our patented reviewing system. It is the S tier system. S is the best, F is the worst. Tell me why you picked your letter. Luciano, do it.
Luciano (01:20:29.774)
All right.
Chris (01:20:35.755)
S
The best.
Luciano (01:20:44.878)
how, how to, how to review a movie that is just a bunch of scenes in a trench coat. it was disappointing. I did not. So there's the thing. A sequel that comes 36 years after the first movie with nothing in between is, is a hard pill to swallow as a concept, at least, you know.
Chris (01:20:49.92)
You can do it.
Chris (01:20:58.903)
You
Luciano (01:21:14.434)
for me, was like, there is no way that this is a story that needs to be told. So I already kind of went in a little biased, I have to say, which usually works in the movie's advantage because you go in with a lower expectation and the movie kind of surprises you. In this case, I unfortunately would have to say that it actually lives up to my, or maybe lives down to my expectation of being not really that good. The story is not that really, we...
Matt (01:21:27.133)
Right. Yeah.
Luciano (01:21:43.566)
I hate it. I fucking hate it. called this when I was starting to watch the movie. I called this on our group chat that
Chris (01:21:47.701)
Hmm
Chris (01:21:57.129)
and Wolf Rockhart Jackson.
Chris (01:22:04.587)
Just helping.
Luciano (01:22:12.406)
I'm sure they're gonna repeat the stupid mind control dance scene and I was absolutely right and I hated that I was right because I loved that scene from the original movie. It's my favorite scene of that movie and they fucking butchered it here. So all in all with all the stuff that we said and like just it just being bland and uninspired. This is a this is an E for me.
Chris (01:22:15.969)
Hmm.
Matt (01:22:36.634)
Yeah, that's fair. Chris, what are you thinking?
Chris (01:22:39.287)
I you were gonna go with, I was just, you didn't pick up, you didn't play that shit, I shall. This movie is a throbbing F, okay? I thought you were gonna do that and then you were able to.
Luciano (01:22:47.534)
No, no, I was actually leaning on Dee before we had our conversation, but as usual, you know, when we talk, it's like, yeah, it is much worse. Yeah.
Chris (01:22:58.527)
there are more reasons you say, so this movie is a throbbing F compared to the OG adventure. like, it makes me, it's disappointing because like when you look at the cast and the reasons that we unpacked based on its potential, it's a sequel that never should have been in this version. It shouldn't have been this way. And.
Luciano (01:23:20.384)
Yeah, I agree.
Chris (01:23:24.747)
We unpacked all that. And so for those reasons, it's a throbbing F and it makes me sad that that's the case. Cause I love Michael Keaton. love like who thought of Wolf Rockhard Jackson? They did slash we did. Well, plus we, that's the problem. We shouldn't have to do that. West Side Boys out here ruining our shit. I yield the rest of my time, throbbing F.
Matt (01:23:40.787)
Yeah. Yeah.
Luciano (01:23:41.036)
Yeah, we made it better. Let's be honest here. Yeah.
Matt (01:23:52.722)
I don't know how F's throw up, but I'm not going to go there. I wasn't fair. said I wasn't going to go there.
Chris (01:23:57.845)
This one did!
Luciano (01:24:00.308)
At least it wasn't a throbbing D. That would have been a problem. No, no, no.
Matt (01:24:02.911)
Mm.
Chris (01:24:03.093)
Well, you did it. thought you were gonna dodge that one.
Chris (01:24:10.421)
He always wants to throw out the D. Sorry, go on. Your turn. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Luciano (01:24:11.35)
No, no, he's Matt is pouting now because we're talking during his turn. Go ahead, Matt. Sure.
Matt (01:24:15.677)
I'm letting you guys cook. This is clearly very important to tell the listeners about all the letters that are throbbing in your lives.
I would rate this, I thought at one point I might give it a D, just a regular D.
Luciano (01:24:30.37)
Not a throbbing one.
Matt (01:24:32.597)
But the more we talked about it and the more I think about it, I think I was like Luciano, it's like I wanted to like this movie so much that it just being kind of a side quest NPC mess trench coat situation makes me disappointed and slips me down to that E because I am disappointed in what they gave me. And it's not enough for me like it is for Chris and it doesn't throb because
Michael Keaton is still really good at being Beetlejuice and at times it really feels like a fun Beetlejuice movie. So it still does enough that it wasn't a complete waste of my time, but you know, but it's not like a fun time. This is the best way I can describe it. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, not like a fun time.
Luciano (01:25:18.072)
Yeah, it's... Yeah. It's like...
Yeah, it doesn't really suck. That's the tagline. Yeah. Yeah. It would be hard to suck while you're throbbing, I think.
Matt (01:25:27.505)
Yeah, it throbs. It doesn't suck.
Matt (01:25:36.531)
Yeah, think that's well. Good news, we're gonna talk about a different movie next week entirely. We are venturing back into movies that end with the letter S and we're gonna watch Twisters 2024.
Chris (01:25:44.631)
Please.
Luciano (01:25:46.54)
Yeah.
Chris (01:25:54.743)
Ooooo
Luciano (01:25:55.308)
Yeah, because this is also not a sequel that took 20 years to happen or something. Yeah.
Matt (01:26:02.453)
No, God no. Whose vehicle is it? I mean, the Lazy Person with Saiglen Powell. That's probably the, know, if you, I'd say Saiglen Powell so you all know what movie I'm actually talking about, just so it makes sense. But like, who do I really want to pick? Maura Tierney, probably.
Chris (01:26:03.841)
Whose vehicle is this? I don't know.
Chris (01:26:15.255)
Probably, yeah.
Chris (01:26:21.015)
There's also, I gotta put respect on his name.
Luciano (01:26:22.628)
Isn't Helen hunting this?
Matt (01:26:24.595)
No, that's Twister.
Luciano (01:26:27.2)
she's not. So she didn't even Laura Dern. She just fucked off. like, OK, no, I don't know. I'm not coming back. OK.
Matt (01:26:33.838)
To my recollection, no one from, I don't remember seeing anyone from the original movie in this one.
Luciano (01:26:41.614)
boy, that, that, well, you know, that could go two very different ways. It could be really be like a fun movie that doesn't really care too much, or it could be a real shitter. Like.
Matt (01:26:53.663)
Yeah, I mean if you want it be the David Cornsworth vehicle Superman that makes you feel better.
Chris (01:26:58.539)
He's in this? he is. I'd rather do Anthony Ramos. Ramos.
Luciano (01:27:00.002)
His last name is Corn Sweat?
Matt (01:27:02.597)
C-O-R-E-N-S-W-E-T
Luciano (01:27:06.612)
I thought about, you know, sweaty corns, but yeah. Eventually in their lives who doesn't think about sweaty corns? Yes.
Matt (01:27:09.854)
Sweaty corn, yeah, who doesn't?
Chris (01:27:11.988)
I don't know what that is and I'm not gonna go there.
Matt (01:27:16.979)
Happens all the time.
Chris (01:27:18.593)
Trying to say sweaty corns.
Matt (01:27:20.213)
sweaty, sweaty corn. Anyways, so that's a movie. Twitter, Twitters? Twisters.
Luciano (01:27:20.546)
No, I'm not, I'm not Sean Connery.
Chris (01:27:23.477)
No, like this, okay.
Luciano (01:27:26.318)
Twitter? Imagine that movie. I don't want to.
Chris (01:27:27.648)
Ayyyy! Twitter's... They were trying to communicate online.
Matt (01:27:30.901)
I don't want to watch that. Don't. No, we're not gonna. No, no, we're not even gonna. It's a horror film. It's the worst. But yeah, Twisters 2024. Pick your character vehicle or watch it. So tune in next week for that. It's gotta be better than this, right?
Luciano (01:27:35.374)
It's a horror movie for every sin one. Yeah
Chris (01:27:48.743)
It has to be. It has to be.
Luciano (01:27:49.4)
Sure, let's go with that.
Matt (01:27:54.187)
Sasha Lane is in this movie.
Luciano (01:27:56.142)
saved, saved, that movie saved.
Chris (01:27:57.281)
Who is that? Okay. Sure. Okay.
Matt (01:27:59.679)
Great, great job. You'll see who it is soon enough, Twisters, next week, watch it. Hopefully no one gets food poisoning. skip it another week.
Luciano (01:28:08.664)
Let's get the fuck out of here.
Matt (01:28:10.037)
We'll see you next time.
Chris (01:28:10.475)
Bye!