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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. I feel like every day, I look at the news and it's just a complete crap show to to put it lightly. And right now, we've got a lot of discussion back and forth about Zelensky, his meeting with Trump, what that means, how, you know, basically, NATO and Europe is standing behind Zelensky and saying, look, we're gonna back you. Let's go to war.
Seth Holehouse:Let's go to World War three. It just seems like there's a group of people on this Earth that want nothing more than complete chaos, and they're looking for every single way possible to make that happen. But simultaneously, you have this massive shift shift happening in the global financial system. You have this gold flowing into America like we've never seen before. We have talking about the potential default of the LBMA, the London, market London Bullion Market Association, which is really what what fixes and sets the price of gold through the paper manipulation of the paper market.
Seth Holehouse:We have so many big chess pieces all moving at once. And the question I have is how does it fit together? How does what's happening with the gold market tie into Zelensky and Putin and Trump and Elon Musk and Doge? And my guest today, my good friend, Todd Callender, what I enjoy about him is that he's able to look at all these different events, but then see the common thread and help us to make sense of what's happening around us and potentially even understand what's coming next. And so in today's interview with Todd, we're gonna be diving into everything from gold and global gold backed currencies to Zelensky and money laundering and Putin and World War three and Russia and so much more.
Seth Holehouse:So please enjoy the interview. Mister Todd Callender, it's always such a pleasure and an honor to have you on the show, and I just love speaking with you, so thank you for being here today.
Todd Callender:Becky, it's always my pleasure, Seth, and I I'm always reminded for people that watch that our our discussions seem to be upbeat. I think that's a function of you giving me some optimism, so thanks for having me.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. It goes both ways. It goes both ways. And, yeah, I mean I mean, I'd say collectively, we've our interviews have reached millions of people, which is kinda cool to to think about, which is it's quite an accomplishment. So
Todd Callender:It is. And we're here. Seth, that's the point. Right? We've we've survived the first attack, which was daunting, and, you know, and and they don't stop, but but we're still here.
Todd Callender:And that's in no small part to you, brother. You and the other people out influencers getting this out, and of course to the audience because they're having these conversations around the dinner table and collectively is that like a spider web goes out. We we were able to open some minds and that was really a wonderful feeling, including by the way, our star witness, Colonel Chambers, Lieutenant Colonel Doctor. Chambers, and Lieutenant Colonel Doctor. Long.
Todd Callender:You know, being recognized by the president for saving hundreds of thousands of lives and careers in the military, that is by virtue of these things that you do.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, one of the reasons why I always enjoy speaking with you is because you're not just a a siloed, you know, you know one thing really, really well. You've got a pulse on so many things, but you've got the very bride or say broad minded perspective perspective and be able to bring it all together. And so there's a lot that we're getting into today, but I wanna first start with Ukraine, Zelensky Yeah.
Seth Holehouse:The war because it's something that I'm seeing. You know, it's interesting because a lot of topics I cover don't seem to make it to the mainstream. Or if they do, that you'll see a little smattering of it. But when I look at my my personal Facebook page, I can see a lot of my my friends I went to school with, they're talking about Zelensky, and there's you know, you have the the pro Ukraine. I say with Ukraine.
Seth Holehouse:You did feel like, oh, Ukraine's a criminal hotbed. But I think that a lot of people though, they see it through still only a small perspective.
Todd Callender:And They do.
Seth Holehouse:I had Martin Armstrong on recently. I'm not sure if if you got a chance to listen that one, but I think you'd be very fascinated with it because
Todd Callender:I'm generally fascinated by him.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, he's he's he's just amazing, and we're talking about this gold flow. All this gold coming in and, you know, the idea of, like, okay, is there gonna be a revaluation? And he said, look, he goes, it's because war is coming to Europe. Right? If there's one guy that knows how the flow of currency indicates war, it's him.
Seth Holehouse:Like, that's Yeah. You know, kind of his his big thing is being able to predict the rise and fall of of nations and wars based upon capital flow.
Todd Callender:And Sure.
Seth Holehouse:So I think that I'd love to get your perspective on this because I think that Yeah. Zelensky is just to me, he's just the puppet of all puppets. I mean, he's just an actor. They plucked out. They put him in the in the stage.
Seth Holehouse:It it's like no decisions that he makes are being made by him. He is just a
Todd Callender:person That's correct.
Seth Holehouse:Being controlled by a handful of different groups and and nations and NATO and whatnot. But I'd like to hear your perspective on the bigger picture of why why NATO especially wants so much to pull us into World War three, how it relates to nations, how it ties into Ukraine, why why Ukraine Sure. Trump, Putin, whole thing. It's such a complicated thing. It's so easy to take one part of it and say, oh, well, you know, Putin's a dictator, and this is why this is happening or vice versa.
Seth Holehouse:So wherever you wanna start with that, there's there's a lot we can talk about here.
Todd Callender:Well, let me let me start with saying the reason why I have a broad perspective is because in my day job, we have operations all over the planet, including in Ukraine, where we we manufacture, funny enough, this. It basically makes you immune from radiation amongst other things. What is that? And it's called RF Defense. It's a supplement based on a very ancient bacillus that is immune to radiation, and when you take this, it makes you also immune to radiation amongst other things.
Todd Callender:It repairs DNA, and we're going through the regulatory process with the FDA. We've already been through the Canadian one. So we're preparing to get this out into the world, but it's a supplement. Our company owns this company, and you may not know this, but every major pharmaceutical company in the world is headquartered in Kyiv. And the reason for that is because Ukraine is a territory of Russia.
Todd Callender:For purposes of sovereign recognition, it is viewed as a territory of Russia, no different than Taiwan is viewed as a territory of China. Why is that important? Because they didn't sign the bioweapons treaties. So effectively, you have the vagus of Europe or of Asia, as the case may be, where anything goes in Ukraine legally. So they are able to do all kinds of genetic modification, manipulation, genetic therapies, anything that could be offsides in The United States Of America or even Mainland China, that goes just fine, Ukraine and Taiwan.
Todd Callender:And this is why the bioweapons factories were there, including the two owned by Metabio. Who owns Metabio? Hunter Biden, right, and the big guy. So we get a snapshot by being there, having staff on the ground, really smart people, the leader of which has lived and worked in Russia and Ukraine in the banking industry and the biomedical industry. These are really knowledgeable quality people.
Todd Callender:So by virtue of us operating in that environment and in different places around the world, I get a really good chance to juxtapose what's happening, how or why. The reality is simply this, that when the governments of this world agreed in 1994 that 7,000,000,000 people have to go, so they arrived at this conclusion in Cairo, Egypt, 19 90 4, the population accords, a series of things were set into motion. How would you go about doing that? You and I have talked about it before. There are many different vectors to this kill box, as we've described it.
Todd Callender:And in reality, all of them have failed because of what you and I just spoke about. The master plan was to use the shots to kill and or mutate everybody into synbio cloud computing nodes and batteries. We foiled that, we being collectively. Right? The people that stood the ground said no, whether that was the military or elsewhere.
Todd Callender:Guys like you getting word out, hey, these shots are dangerous caused hesitation, and that plan failed. It failed miserably. Their plan B necessarily is, oh, crap. We're now caught. You can't you can't contain the truth.
Todd Callender:What are we gonna do? Well, the mission never changed. They still wanna destroy humanity. So now what's the next most reasonable means? And that is clearly a nuclear event.
Todd Callender:You might recall in prior conversations, we talked about the Ukrainians shelling Chernobyl. Right? The the sarcophagus leaking nuclear radiation plant. It was a power plant in in Ukraine, and they're trying to shell it. Why?
Todd Callender:To cause a nuclear event, trying to push Vladimir Putin into a nuclear exchange. Any excuse will do. Whether it is their Continental Europe or anywhere else, they don't care, including Chinese or Mexican cartels or glimmer coming across the border into The United States. The owner's credo is Ordo Abcow, order from chaos. And I had some key indicators that this wasn't gonna work, including the fact that there's 4 quadrillion dollars worth of derivatives on the market.
Todd Callender:And as those would have come due and been called, the global economy necessarily would have had to collapse because every financial institution on the planet has that crap on their balance sheet. There's no way to meet the payments when those are called due. It's like FTX, all the derivatives came due, they couldn't meet their liabilities bankrupt. That was the plan. The Qataris took over that contagion in the balance sheet of Credit Suisse and they cleaned it up and then they sold Credit Suisse from part of it to UBS.
Todd Callender:Those are systemic banks. Those are global systemic banks. Why would you clean up their balance sheets if your mission was to destroy the world economy? They needed the trigger to destroy everything, and somebody in the background is plucking out the the ability for them to do that, subverting that mission. And I think that it goes back to the meeting between president Trump, president Putin, and Sochi, who my friend, and fellow board member, general Paul Valhalli, organized that meeting 02/2019.
Todd Callender:Mister Putin passes the ball to mister Trump. He said the ball's in your court. What that meant was, let's not go forward with the owner plan to destroy the world. How about if you and I and mister Modi and mister Xi all get along and we compete? We're gonna overthrow the system.
Todd Callender:We're gonna take our planet back. And that's precisely what has happened. Mister Trump said it was his national security policy. I don't want bombs and guns and wars. I want for us to trade.
Todd Callender:We're gonna compete in trade. And what do you see? Precisely that. He says we're gonna do tariffs. Some people call them import duties.
Todd Callender:The the place where I live is based on import duty. We don't have an income tax. So United States can do away with income tax. He knows how to do it. Our nation was born that way.
Todd Callender:Everybody is resetting the play. The the entire field of play is being reset from a debt model economy into an equity model economy, and that's what people are missing is the unwinding of the intended bankruptcy of the planet. And it's unwinding right now, and we're watching it, including 250 or more planes of gold coming back to The United States because the the currency will be gold backed. It must be gold backed if we're going to save the global economy. And, clearly, that's mister Trump's intention because that's what he's doing.
Todd Callender:So there isn't going to be a nuclear war. There isn't going to be a war in Europe. There's not gonna be a war anywhere. They're coming to an end because the old paradigm is done, and it is done by agreement amongst noble world powers who said, no. I'm not gonna destroy this world.
Todd Callender:I'm not gonna destroy humanity. That's what you're watching.
Seth Holehouse:So a lot to unpack there. And I've got a lot of questions. So I'll try to be concise with them because otherwise, I'll be throwing 10 things at you at once.
Todd Callender:I don't mind.
Seth Holehouse:So okay. A snapshot of the world right now. The world is ruled by a corrupt banking cabal. It took put a kind of it's way more okay. Yes.
Seth Holehouse:There's there's a there's a transition happening that and and that that banking cabal has, you know, primarily ruled the world through usury and through Yeah. Basically, un you know, through debt, using debt as a weapon, ensnaring countries in debt, you know, through the central banking system, like, you know, the US government now was our debt. 35 $36,500,000,000,000. Right? The interest payment on that alone is well beyond our own defense budget every year.
Todd Callender:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:And so but they've used this system through this these fiat currencies primarily, but then also through using the LBMA, right, the, London Bullion Market Association
Todd Callender:You bet.
Seth Holehouse:Which is what sets the gold price in many ways. So they've used the the paper market to the through the promissory notes to basically, flood the market with gold to keep to suppress the price of gold, which has allowed them to obviously, like, under Nixon, when we count the gold standard, it's allowed them to create this massive debt and derivative bubble where they've taken Yes. You know, for every dollar sitting in the bank account, there's, you know, a thousand or $10,000 being traded off of that in into the derivatives market, which is this, you know Oh,
Todd Callender:that's right.
Seth Holehouse:Trillion dollar market of debt. Quadrillions. There you go. Quadrillions. There you go.
Seth Holehouse:And so that system, it's like, okay. Everyone looks at this in 02/2008, the housing collapse, which I think was was cut in a lot of ways, I think it was something else that was happening. They they covered it.
Todd Callender:It was an accounting rule change.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. They made
Todd Callender:it look like that.
Seth Holehouse:Yes. And so but that was that was like, you know, getting an offender bender as opposed to a a pile up that takes out a thousand cars on a highway. I mean, the the difference between that and what it would look like if there was a global default on the global debt because that system like, every every fiat currency has a life cycle. It has a beginning. It has an end.
Seth Holehouse:Gold doesn't. Gold's been traded as a as a as a monetary instrument for over four thousand years. Right?
Todd Callender:Important word.
Seth Holehouse:Right? And so, basically, this system this system is collapsing. This global financial system is collapsing. They as far as I understand, the Europeans because Europeans the European countries, which we have the the center, you know, city of London, the banking cabal. Gold has surged 46% in less than a year, doubling the gains of the Nasdaq and the S and P five hundred.
Seth Holehouse:But this isn't just another rally. Global reserves are shifting, exposing cracks in the monetary system. Investors are losing confidence in paper gold and demanding physical metal, creating a massive gap between gold owed and gold available. But this isn't about how institutions broke another system. It's about how you can profit from it.
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Seth Holehouse:And so as I understand, Europe needed to bring Putin into a war so they could seize the resources of Russia, which I've heard estimates of upwards of $75,000,000,000,000 in natural resources Impossible. Of Russia. Sure. So they need to collapse create a war to as a a guise for collapsing the banking system, seize these assets to to maintain control. Like, that's the corner that are backed into.
Seth Holehouse:Is that am I pre am I am
Todd Callender:I Well, yes. No. There's a lot of truth in that. That's clearly part of the plan except that it wasn't just Europe. The plan was to destroy the entire global economy in every country, a a global reset.
Todd Callender:And instead, they got their timing all off because Mr. Trump spent four years in office and caused those gears and cogs not to match up. So the plan was moving forward except The United States didn't, it caused a huge hiatus where other countries started rethinking things. For example, you had the the BRICS nations. For ten years, they were trying to launch their currency and couldn't do that.
Todd Callender:Why? It was supposed to be gold back then. Wasn't. Why is it, Seth, that the IMF, the debt slave master, switched their base currency from special drawing rights in 2020 to 2023, monetary gold. They switched to the gold standard.
Todd Callender:The loan sharks switched to the gold standard. Why? Why would they do that if their mission was to destroy the global economy? And it was. It was effectively a stated mission.
Todd Callender:And the answer to that is leadership in key countries decided they weren't going with the program. They weren't gonna go with Klaus Schwab's plan and it could not work without it, especially The United States. Why? Because The United States was the paymaster. When you see that the money was cut off from USAID, from state department resources, from DOD resources, other transactional authority, all came to a grinding halt.
Todd Callender:I just got back from Switzerland. It's where I was last week. And what do you see? And I'm in the financial world. Right?
Todd Callender:What it is you see is everybody coming to the realization that the debt model economy is coming to an end and instead what it will look like is what Qaddafi was trying to build and for which he paid with his life. We're citizens of a country enjoy an equity return. They enjoy dividends on the national assets. And that's how our country actually started. And the debt slavery in 1913 created by the Federal Reserve Act is being undone.
Todd Callender:And all this craziness you hear and see are gasping breaths, the last breaths of the owner's paradigm. We're taking the planet back, and they don't know what to do, and they don't have the resources to do anything about it. To think that Europe is going to take on Russia is a joke. There is no NATO without The United States Of America. Doesn't exist.
Todd Callender:They have no means. I think The United Kingdom has two days worth of ammunition. They're gonna they're gonna take on Russia who's geared up and been at war for two years. Good luck with that.
Seth Holehouse:So it it what's interesting is and and for some reason, I've I've become very fascinated with global finance over the past couple of years. That to me, it's it's not about money. It's about understanding how the entire world works. And and if you can start to understand the financial system, it gives you insight into so many other factors you can then make sense of. And so if you look at what's happened since the the US dollar became the global reserve currency, and you look at the again, which strengthens the dollar, which also hurts United States as an export nation because now we're we're exporting debt.
Todd Callender:Because it's expensive.
Seth Holehouse:And and it causes us to become an importing nation, so which allowed China, you know, Germany, South Korea, a lot of other countries, Taiwan, to really post World War two to to really rebuild their economies and grow into into, you know, manufacturing countries. Manufacturing countries. Yeah. However, that has to come to an end. And but, also, there's been a lot of manipulation between currency.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Because, you know, why has China been able to become such a powerful exporter? Because they've artificially held you know, they they've they've suppressed the value of their currency. They've manipulated it on the world market so that, you know, what cost you $10 to make in America cost you a dollar to make in China. So if you're a business owner, it's like it's hard to not go that way if if, you know now maybe it's easier because there's much more of a pro America, buy made in America, I'll pay more for American, but ten years ago, there wasn't.
Seth Holehouse:And so this situation that's been created globally where these these currencies have become an absolute mess through the derivatives They are. Through all the different just bankster corrupt banks Planned construction. Manipulation. Right?
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:So I've come to my the only conclusion that, you know, through my research and through interviews, that the only way to correct all of this is for the basically, the entire world to go back to a gold based system because it's it's it's the great equalizer. It's the one thing that you do, and then there's no way that you can cheat that system anymore. And so do you so you mentioned, you know, return to a gold back currency. So is that what you're seeing? Is that what you're like, all these different these, I'm sorry.
Todd Callender:Yes. It's exactly what I'm seeing. Seth, when you when you see states in The United States starting to stockpile gold and silver, when you see cantons in Switzerland buying their own precious metals, the federal government
Seth Holehouse:What's a cantons?
Todd Callender:The United States, it's effectively a state or a province.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, okay. Okay.
Todd Callender:In Switzerland. They just call them cantons. Effectively, they're the tribes turned into states within the Federal Republic Of Switzerland. And money printing, you know, the national currency is the Swiss franc. The cantons don't have the right to print francs.
Todd Callender:The government does. The United States prints dollars or the Federal Reserve does, but the states don't mint their own coins heretofore. And yet, all of the states, all of the cantons, all of these sub sovereigns to to federal republics are now going into the the money business themselves, that being holding of their own resources, which means that they've lost faith in their own currency. They've lost faith in their own federal government's ability to control budgets and spending and the printing of money. So it doesn't matter now what it is that the federal governments are gonna do because the states are going back to their own sovereignty vis a vis the tenth amendment to the US constitution, and we saw this with COVID.
Todd Callender:Some states locked down, other states didn't. They were not homogenous, and that distinction is what creates effectively sovereignty. This band of group says we're not masking and we're going to stick together, and these are our laws. We made them. All things are local.
Todd Callender:So you're now seeing this happening as a as a global phenomenon. It is the reestablishment of sovereignty, and it is beautiful, and it is by this very measure that you just spoke. There is no choice but to return to a gold standard because everything else is a fiction. You can tie it to gold or you cannot and if you do not, then you gotta tie it to something else. Bitcoin, what does it tie to?
Todd Callender:Nothing. Computation, a limit of supply, but that by itself gave it a competitive advantage along with the fact that it's not government issued. So long, Seth, as there is competition between nations and between currencies and between stocks and bonds and other assets, So long as that freedom of choice exists, humanity shall be free. And that's what was they were seeking to destroy all of that. No choice whatsoever.
Todd Callender:You'll have nothing and you're gonna be happy, damn it. Right? That failed. It's over. And so now we see a transformation of the global economy state by state, county by county, person by person.
Todd Callender:We are no longer gonna be your debt slaves. We're not paying taxes. Mister Trump says it himself, Abolish the IRS. Have you heard anybody say, no. No.
Todd Callender:No. We need the IRS? Yeah. They're called Democrats. Why?
Todd Callender:Because it's their criminal enterprise. They seek to maintain and control the follow through their plan that sees them as demagogues democods, I should say, and the rest of us as serfs. That was their plan, and it's failed. Failed miserably. So now there is no choice but to do exactly what you said, and the US dollar, I can tell you with absolute certainty, is the strongest of all currencies in the world because as bad as it is, all the other ones are worse except for the ruble.
Todd Callender:And the reason for that is because it's tied to gold.
Seth Holehouse:So the article I pulled up when you're talking here, this is just a couple days ago, says a a groundbreaking bill to establish a strategic gold reserve has just become law in Wyoming. So Wyoming, they just passed the, Wyoming Gold Act. Right? So senate file 96, requires the Wyoming treasurer treasurer to diversify the state's holdings by acquiring no less than $10,000,000 in, basically, in a specie and specie 10 legal tender as part of this, fund. So you can see this.
Seth Holehouse:There's a of other states that are doing it as well.
Todd Callender:They're Utah's pushing Arkansas.
Seth Holehouse:To go back to I know Texas has also got a lot happening in this area as well. And so so you we're seeing it happening on the state level. So you think that the this this movement of gold happening. Right? We had the CEO of Stonex come out a couple weeks ago saying that he estimated, at least 2,000 metric tons of gold that had been has been brought back into United States, which started early December.
Seth Holehouse:So it started shortly after Trump won the election. So, you know, this must have been something that was planned long in advance. So what you're seeing is that, basically, before the music stops, everyone's shuffling looking for a chair. And what you see happening is the countries that are in the know, the countries that are rejecting and stepping away from this old world order are the countries that have been amassing massive gold reserves, which we've seen a lot of the BRICS nations, Turkey, Poland, you know, and and other, you know, BRICS nations, you know, China, etcetera. Now Canada sold off all their precious metals.
Seth Holehouse:Like, you know, it's UK, I think, also got rid of a bunch of their stuff. You know, the the the Bank of England now has a lot of speculation about how their reserves are are at very, very low level. So
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:What so you see that they they basically, a massive restructuring of the global financial system is imminent.
Todd Callender:It's not only imminent, it's in process. So I really first started looking at this right after mister Trump took office the first time. And the reason for that is his very first executive order included a law that I used to enforce. I worked in federal law enforcement and law school, and part of that job was doing civil asset forfeiture extraterritorial, taking assets abroad and bringing it back to The United States. It operates under something called IEPA, International Economic Emergency Powers Act, which mister Trump invoked in his very first executive order and several of them thereafter.
Todd Callender:Anything related to human trafficking gives us the pretext to start seizing assets abroad, and they did, including extraditing the banker for the Vatican, right, and they started seizing those assets, which included, as I understand it, two fifty airplanes full of gold. That was the first time around, Here he is back again. And what did we see immediately after that? The IMF said, okay, debtor nations, you now have to repay us. Those interest components, the ones that you collect tax for and pay us interest on, 25% of that has to come back in physical gold.
Todd Callender:So, now when you have the loan shark saying I don't want your crappy U. S. Dollars, I don't want your crappy Euros or Canadian dollars, I want gold. What other choice do those nations have but to repay the gold, acquire the gold, repay it or produce their own gold? The answer is they didn't have any because those loans were all collateralized with national assets, including you and me, and our earnings and our taxable future, but also national assets that were largely confiscated through UNESCO and other operations like that.
Todd Callender:That has all come to a grinding halt. The OECD is the one world government. It has been in power since 02/2016, January '1, took over a 83 nations. And now what am I seeing? USAID, no more funding there.
Todd Callender:OECD, one world government done. The paymaster has stopped and everything else has stopped. They were all using our backs, our slave labor to fund our own global imprisonment and and eventually death. And mister Trump stopped it in a day, in a day. So what we're watching is that all of this unfolding and these countries are now struggling to figure out what are they gonna do.
Todd Callender:Are they gonna be able to go through with the plan or are they gonna follow mister Trump's lead, mister Modi, mister Xi, mister Putin, who have agreed to trade instead of kill each other? And so they don't have a choice. Europe turned off their coal plants. Europe stopped their steelmaking and a lot of manufacturing. In furtherance of these lofty goals of the world economic forum, sustainable development, DEI, SDG goals, what a bunch of nonsense.
Todd Callender:It doesn't mesh with market economics, and mister Trump is forcing market economics onto the global stage, and they cannot cope. They have to re reconfigure their economies to what mister Gaddafi was effectively doing and paid for his life for doing. Globally, that's what's happening, and it will take a little time to to fair it out, but there is no going back, Seth. This is gonna happen.
Seth Holehouse:So you think and and this this actually goes along with a lot of the interviews and and the research that I've done that, basically, there's a massive repatriation of gold happening right now. Sure. It's probably been happening for longer than we know. Yes. You know, as as what you said, you think it started, you know, in a large way under Trump's for in in in Trump's long term.
Seth Holehouse:And so They do. You know, though on the books, they're saying that, okay, The US should have around 8,000 tons of gold, roughly, I think. And, though right now, it's it's they they're only valuing it at, what, $42.50 or $45 an ounce, which is which is kind of wild.
Todd Callender:Absurd.
Seth Holehouse:So you think that what's happening is that that my guess is that The United States has far more gold than that. And
Todd Callender:there has to be reset of pricing too. So when you look at, again, the financial markets, last week I had three conversations about this, the Israelis said that the true value of gold is $122,000 an ounce. The systemic banks in Europe are saying $22,000 an ounce. The American ones, the big guys, are saying $12,000 an ounce. One way or another, the artificially low price, and just as you said, making paper to drive the price of gold down there isn't anywhere near enough gold to meet the paper, right, that they issued against it, is gonna cause this reset, and there is going to be an enormous change in price and the value of gold.
Todd Callender:And it's being driven down right now so that countries can buy up as much as they possibly can before the music stops. You've got this exactly right.
Seth Holehouse:Interesting. Because I just did a conversation over the weekend with a guy named Eric Young, who's like a he's a financial guy, understands gold markets really well. And he he went into the COMEX and the LBMA, what's happening with the different markets. And what he said what's happening is because a lot of this gold is being brought back through the COMEX, he basically referred to it as as a public execution of the LBMA that that what they're doing is that they're publicly exposing the they're they're kind of creating a gold run on the LBMA. And now even though right now in America, you know, you can still buy gold and silver at a a relatively low premium.
Seth Holehouse:But
Todd Callender:the Absolutely.
Seth Holehouse:I was listening to an interview last night with, Sean at SGT and David Jensen. And David Jensen, hope we'll be having back on soon. And what David Jensen said all is because just because the you know, just like the housing market in 02/2008 that the last people to know are the are the dumb money as they call it. Right? The the general public.
Seth Holehouse:They're the
Todd Callender:ones that don't know.
Seth Holehouse:Right? But but the smart money, he said, look. Don't look at don't look at the the price of gold right now. Don't look at the availability of gold at a retail level for a one ounce coin or whatever. He was saying, look, look, he says, watch the Swiss refiners and look at how how's that they're already oversold for months and months and months on able to not able to keep up because they're the ones that that are supplying the gold for the elite families, for the for the sovereign banks, and that that's where it's happening.
Seth Holehouse:So you think that and getting into the the the nuts and bolts of what this looks like for the average American. I'm I'm gonna segue a little bit here because I know that, like, it's it's so funny because you come on the show, and and you're just like you're like the neighbor next door. Like, that you're you're so just you're relaxed. I love how you always polos, you're at the beach behind you. But most people don't know that you're actually involved in a lot of very large international businesses, which you've already alluded to this.
Seth Holehouse:I'm not, you know, kind of exposing anything here. But you understand global economics and finance Yeah. And and these things, not just through theory and through studying it, but because you're actually involved in the companies doing this.
Todd Callender:My day job.
Seth Holehouse:Yes. So so, like, for the average American right now that is struggling, you know, that has a, you know, couple hundred thousand dollar mortgage at 8% and is is just living paycheck to paycheck and and is seeing a dollar worth less and less and seeing a dozen eggs is now $10.11, $12, you know, a dozen. And and seeing this change, what does this look like? I mean, how how does like, if Trump does, say, revalue gold, and and you're right in terms of, okay, what is the value of gold? Well, if you look at the paper market alone out of the LBMA, let's say it's a hundred paper ounces per one per one ounce.
Seth Holehouse:Sure. Well, even that, I mean, right now, gold's at $3,000 an ounce. So 3,000 times a hundred. I mean, you're looking at
Todd Callender:30,000.
Seth Holehouse:Right? That you're looking at
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:A lot of value. So how does this shift change Yeah. The the the economy, especially here in America?
Todd Callender:I reading through what it is mister Trump did in his first term and what it is that he's doing now, there are elements of criminal law that he's he's interplayed into all of this. My sense is that there are gonna be some giant set offs. So the idea is that all debts must be repaid. That's the general philosophy financial world. One way or another, they get repaid.
Todd Callender:If you go into bankruptcy, fine, we're taking your stuff. One way or another, y'all will get repaid. What that doesn't take into account is criminality, because sovereign states reserve the right to confiscate things where criminal conduct has unfolded or been the predicate to the offense, and herein lies the issue with the first two executive orders Mr. Trump signed in his first term, and that is anything having to do with sex trafficking, children trafficking, human trafficking, money laundering associated there too, gives The United States the right to go and seize those assets. So if you have these liabilities of The United States Of America to, for example, the Federal Reserve who loaned us a bunch of money and we printed out of thin air, and they were involved in criminality, isn't it possible or even likely that any debt due to them would be offset against their criminal culpability?
Todd Callender:And the answer to that question is yes. And it's not just the Federal Reserve, it goes all the way up the Bank for International Settlements. What are we coming to learn? And by the way, the BIS, for those of you who don't know it, is the top bank. It's the bank that owns all the other banks, central banks.
Todd Callender:They are the controllers and makers of money. They have been involved in criminal conduct one way or another throughout the world. In many cases, these crimes are what we call strict liability crimes. It doesn't even require malintent. It just requires you are a party to the crime, and herein lies the issue.
Todd Callender:They are all parties to the crime, and I think the best evidence of this look it up for yourself. The banker for the Vatican, Vatican Bank, they extradited that guy to The United States in Trump's first term, and they absolutely positively initiated civil asset forfeiture abroad. Where that resulted, nobody knows for sure, but what I can tell you is they implemented the laws, then they execute on those laws, which still exist today. Guess who didn't undo those? Mr.
Todd Callender:Biden could have said, nope, those executive orders are gone, but he didn't. He didn't. Why? And the answer to the question is that we've been watching a great giant show. That's what.
Todd Callender:While everybody is distracted with Biden falling up and downstairs and saying stupid stuff in the background, a lot of things were moving, including the IMF switch from the SDR, that's a basket of currencies, to monetary gold. That was the first indicator, holy cow, this whole thing's going equity model instead of debt model economy. And I think that's what you're you're gonna continue to see unfold. And that that hundred, you know, dollar or hundred times difference in gold that you spoke of is probably about right. You know, dollars 30,000 an ounce or something to that effect.
Todd Callender:But I don't know if the what the offset in liabilities will actually be because if you lop a couple zeros off currencies, and I've twice lived through that in Poland, I saw that and I saw that in Venezuela. As a currency reset, my sense is that's where this goes, because the true value of a dollar is measured against a loaf of bread. How much does it cost to buy a loaf of bread with gold? That answer hasn't changed in a hundred years. So
Seth Holehouse:That's the interesting thing about this too is that, well, I guess real quickly now now, if the gold was at 3,000, wouldn't it be 300,000? Right?
Todd Callender:A hundred times. Yeah. Right? Hundred times. It's sometimes.
Todd Callender:You're
Robert Kiyosaki:right. But
Seth Holehouse:but that's also because, know, I've I've also heard people ask, they'll say, you know, to an expert, what what will the gold be worth in the future? And I've heard many people say, well, you're asking me to give you a fiat valuation of gold, which
Todd Callender:Good point.
Seth Holehouse:It doesn't it doesn't equate because
Todd Callender:valid point.
Seth Holehouse:Like, if if if a loaf say say, you know, the dollar enters hyperinflation. If a loaf of bread costs $5,000 because which, you know, we solve this in in, you know, Weimar Republic or Yeah. Areas where there's been hyperinflation. If a loaf of bread is $5,000, what's it matter if an ounce of gold is $10,000? Right?
Seth Holehouse:You can't
Todd Callender:It doesn't make a bit of difference.
Seth Holehouse:You can't use this is the point that I've heard people say is that you can't look at it like that. You have to look at it as
Todd Callender:It's true.
Seth Holehouse:Like, what is an ounce of gold bought? And there's a famous story of, I think it was a a bellhop out in San Francisco during the Great Depression that would work at a small hotel, and I think it was in San Francisco. And at the at one day, he one of the wealthy kind of people, you know, that were staying at the hotel gave him a gold coin as a tip. Right? Give a 1 ounce gold coin.
Seth Holehouse:And the story is is that after the crash, that guy went back and used that gold coin to buy the buy the hotel. And that was it was the story of of of how these things change. I've also heard stories, I think, whether it was I'm not sure if it was Venezuela or Argentina when the the currency had collapsed that a an ounce of silver would feed a family for a month. You couldn't buy you couldn't buy a chicken for less than a wheelbarrow of cash, yet an ounce of silver would get enough food to pay for an entire month worth worth of food for a family.
Todd Callender:That goes back to your original supposition, which is that gold is universally valuable and has been so for thousands of years, and to a lesser extent, silver. You're absolutely, positively correct. A client of mine who I just adore has thrice escaped communism, literally run from Eastern Germany amongst other places, and his advice to me, which I use, sage advice, he said always keep enough gold to bribe the border guards. That's what he had to do to to bribe the border guards. Meaning when you're escaping communism, you gotta have enough gold in your pocket to to bribe the border guards because they want gold, they don't want the fiat currency.
Todd Callender:So how do we right? How do we perceive value? And one of the things I love about cash and gold because they share it universally valuable, it's portable, and it's anonymous. The three top most important things to any currency, That's the beauty. We cannot be enslaved with central bank digital currency so long as there is a gold supply.
Todd Callender:People will always find a way. So I see freedom. I don't see any way to contain humanity. They can continue to try and kill us off, But Mr. Trump already said no central bank digital currency, which is different by the way from digital currencies generally, right?
Todd Callender:Whether that's Bitcoin or XRP or any other ones, all the litigation in the SEC has stopped against those companies. Why? Because they are competition and competition is good. That's why. If you're in a free market economy, a global free market economy, what you seek are alternatives, a medium of exchange mutually agreeable to two trading partners.
Todd Callender:Right now that has to be gold. It's kind of a pain in the rear to fly it back and forth across the Atlantic, but if everybody agrees that XRP is the means by which they can effectuate this trade using that medium, then so be it. Others may prefer a different thing. One way or another, the WEDAF, the owner's model of a global control paradigm is over. It cannot be repaired.
Todd Callender:It's too far gone. It's been destroyed. The veil is lifted. People are finally waking up to the reality of today. And I don't see anything other than a bright future if if we can just stay healthy and not get poisoned.
Todd Callender:If we can stop the poisoning, whether by shots or chemtrails or otherwise, five gs, they're cooking us right now. If we stop those things, humanity has a bright future because we're taking our damn planet back.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Interesting. And it's it's funny because that's I always keep, this little 10 ounce bar of silver. Beautiful. Which I I love a 10 ounce bar because you you can feel the weight, you know, it's tiny little thing.
Seth Holehouse:But it's just this reminder of, like, this is real value. Like, this is Right. This is money. Right? Like, the dollar hundred dollar bills, it it it's it's monopoly money.
Seth Holehouse:This the thing is no one knows I own this. Well, now they do because I'm I'm broadcasting, but I can bury this in my backyard under a tree. I can hide it Like, no one knows. I can I can trade it to you for, you know?
Todd Callender:How about this? I will trade you 1 Bahamian dollar for that. Would that be a good trade? Exactly. Right.
Todd Callender:This makes your point. Right? Which one do you want? The the the metal or you want this paper?
Seth Holehouse:Exactly.
Todd Callender:Beautiful. Beautiful.
Seth Holehouse:And also, you mentioned that BIS and wasn't it 02/2019 that they they reclassified gold as a tier one asset?
Todd Callender:Yes, they did. Exactly. Let us not forget that the World Bank and IMF are effectively subsidiaries of the Bank for International Settlements. So when the IMF goes to monetary gold, that's because the BIS mandated
Seth Holehouse:Interesting. So I mean, there's there's there's so much I kind of keep digging into with this. I'm just looking at this. It
Todd Callender:never ends. It never ends. And by the way, the other part going to the, you know, tier one capital requirements is Basel III records were supposed to have been implemented everywhere. They can't. They can't because none of the systemic banks are solvent.
Todd Callender:Going back to 02/2008, for example, was it a housing crisis? No, it actually wasn't. It was a change in accounting principles. International Financial Reporting Standards said you got to mark to market these assets that are not readily tradable. So if you've got some stagnant derivatives sitting on your balance sheet, now you got to reflect its true value, not this made up value, and that crashed AIG, who was the biggest insurance company in the world, AAA rated, who didn't have the capital to back up all of their guarantees, and then all the other banks fell right behind it.
Todd Callender:That's what gave rise to TARP. That was the bail bailout. They changed the law not very long ago, some years ago, bail ins. Basically said, if you as a bank don't have the ability to repay your your depositors, well, you can just give them stock. You keep their money and give them stock, something for something.
Todd Callender:You know, they'll market for it. Those are bail ins. Either way, no matter how you describe it, that system is over. And what we see coming now, it looks to be a very elegant solution. And that elegant solution is predicated upon the use of gold as an international universally valuable standard that even the IMF, the Bank for National Settlement, says it is so.
Todd Callender:And we can all trade with that. But it'd be interesting to see where unfolds. No matter how you slice this, the old paradigm is over.
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Seth Holehouse:And as much as I love what Yeah. Say Musk is doing with Doge and everything, if if all this is turning into is replacing people with robots and replacing functions with AI and replacing, you know, souls with code, that does concern me. And and I have to say Right.
Todd Callender:I like a
Seth Holehouse:lot of what I've seen Musk do, but I also know that he's I would say that he would fall in the category of transhumanists, and he's, you know, as much you might say that, well, he's trying to Deeply concerned. To it. Right? He's he's still putting chips in people's brains. And I saw an an article recently about how someone's talking about how these chips can be remotely controlled.
Seth Holehouse:Then there's also something this is also interesting. I'm not sure.
Todd Callender:Been that way.
Seth Holehouse:If you saw this, but there was a one of the digital currencies. I forget which one it was. It wasn't crypto, but it was one of them that someone in China had dumped. I think it was around a million and a half. I think it was Ethereum.
Seth Holehouse:A million and a half dollars worth this cryptocurrency into a a void wallet, which is understand what it means is that it's the equivalent of taking a pile of a hundred of a 1 and a half million dollars cash and lighting it on fire. And Wow. What so the the what they did, though, is that they attached these notes to it in Chinese. And so, basically, by moving into a void wallet, it basically zeros it out. So everyone who's watching the movement of these wallets and this currency cryptocurrency, they all saw it, and there's all this this buzz going on around the
Todd Callender:Heard something about that.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. And but what these notes in Chinese said is they said that they they basically paint the picture of this person was working for some really advanced tech AI company in China. And what these notes indicated is that this company already has chips inside of all their employees that they're controlling and that these employees are able to be remotely controlled, and that they're also doing it in the Chinese military. And so soon enough, what they're trying to do is they're trying to dump this in there to to to reveal that, basically, that they've been using this technology to create Well like, literally remote control humans.
Todd Callender:What what do mean? I mean, we've been talking about this for five years. What what do you think the shots were about? What do you think those nanobots were for? We have all the science.
Todd Callender:We deposited it into the federal court record. We've been saying this literally for four or five years. All they're doing is saying they're validating it. We have all the science. We knew that this was what was happening.
Todd Callender:And they admitted it in their own offering memorandum in the case of Moderna, self assembling, semi intelligent, autonomous lipid nanoparticles. They're nanobots. That has been the case. It always was the case. They're just letting everybody in on the secret.
Todd Callender:So that I kinda laugh when I see Elon Musk talking about, you know, well, we gotta put some wires in people's heads. He knows damn well that's nonsense. I mean, I this is robust science now. Look it up for yourself. Wireless body area network, how are they accessing it?
Todd Callender:And this is part of what we had in our lawsuit is the reason they put cesium one three seven into the shots and they polluted our skies with it, they've chemtrailed us with it, is because it makes our bodies effectively into power supplies, transducers, transmitters, receivers, etcetera. And when you combine it with the the nanobots, the nanoparticles in the shots, you have become a synbio person. In the case of The United Kingdom and Germany, they call it human augmentation. Lots of papers on that. In the case of The United States Of America, there is a synbio, stands for synthetic biology department in health and human services, who now publishes by the way, the one health initiative whereby we're looked at no different as humans from animals, right?
Todd Callender:So when you see these new diseases and pathogens coming out, become zoonotic. What that means is they work on humans and people at the same time. You now have under the One Health Initiative, you've got veterinarians that enjoy the same abilities legally as does a medical doctor. Why? Because we are livestock in their eyes.
Todd Callender:And the mission of the SynBio, division of Health and Human Services is to genetically modify every plant, animal species on the planet. Why? Because our bodies, whether it's a dog or whether it's you or me, are batteries, power supplies, and cloud computing nodes. Don't believe me? Look it up for yourself.
Todd Callender:Dev, d e v, dot in persona dot com, I n p e r s o n a dot com. And what you find is that this has been commercialized. The Bill Gates patent, it's a World Intellectual Property Office, WIPO as they call it, 2020060606 is the Bill Gates patent. It says I'm going to reserve onto myself the right to harness people as batteries, power supplies, and and cloud computing so I can mine cryptocurrency. DevDot, impersona dot com, they have already mined 1,400,000,000,000 heartbeats.
Todd Callender:They've already used 1,400,000,000,000 heartbeats to mine cryptocurrency. In other words, Bill Gates patent has been commercialized, and you're looking at it right now. How many people you don't got a Fitbit or an iPhone that's reading their biorhythms? Those biorhythms are being used to mine cryptocurrency. You are a power source.
Todd Callender:You are a cloud computing node. This is the evidence that we were putting into the federal record. Nobody wanted to hear it, but it's here, and it's commercial.
Seth Holehouse:And so do you think this agenda stops with this reset? No. This is the one thing is that. No. Because even now, you've got RFK junior, you know, out talking about the the measles vaccine MMR, I think it was, which, you know, where he's been on record before that, talking about how the same vaccine causes autism, and I'm having a hard like, so as much as I I love hearing about what's happening with gold and and ending this debt slavery system, that's amazing.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. But then on the flip side, when I see how Elon Musk is central to so many of these massive changes in our government, and he you know, whether he's doing good things or not, the reality is is he is someone that is pushing the transhumanist agenda to Yeah. The nth degree. But then even RFK junior, who I had I've still have a lot of hope for coming out and saying that all measles, MMR, I mean, it's I think I'm in some sort of, like, nightmarish groundhog day. It's like, why is this still happening?
Seth Holehouse:And so how how do you make sense of all this yet still
Todd Callender:I don't.
Seth Holehouse:Think that there's a future that that we that we can achieve?
Todd Callender:I've had a conversation with Bobby Kennedy. He knows he knows so well. And you look at the the legal work his law firm does, Children's Health Defense, he knows those lawyers are bright and they're really good and they have prevailed in a lot of these cases, including representing whistleblowers from the CDC who said absolutely shots are what caused autism, there's a direct correlation. He knows, and so I I struggle to understand that myself. What I can tell you is that so much has been invested, billions and billions, if not a trillion dollars, in this fourth industrial revolution, turning you and me and every living thing on this planet into a power source, to a battery, into cloud computing nodes, that the new currency is digits, it's data.
Todd Callender:So much of that has already happened that it cannot be undone. It's like, you know, once you recognize that we are all system of frequencies and vibration, just what Tesla said many, many years ago, maybe more than a hundred years ago, he was right. Everything is frequency is energy. And now that these guys have figured out what that is and how to manipulate it, there is no going back. Mister Trump even says, yeah.
Todd Callender:Six g's around the corner. Well, five g is a 300 megahertz to 300 gigahertz band of frequencies. Terahertz is the next band up. That's what they're calling six g. That's light frequencies.
Todd Callender:Right? And that's actually already in place, already being used. For instance, when you see the lasers can recreate in the sky three d images, you barely tell what the difference is between what's real and what's not real, holograms amongst other things. That's a function of that range of frequencies and they're completely manipulatable. Now that man has figured out how to manipulate frequencies down to our genetics, So is the testimony of our expert witnesses in our case, that these gangsters, these scientific criminal geniuses have figured out how to manipulate our bodies remotely.
Todd Callender:Doctor. Lee Vleet says that every malady known to mankind can be caused by these frequency ranges. So what's the difference? What's the distinction? And the reality is that knowledge is already out there.
Todd Callender:It's not reconcilable. So what I see happening is humanity being given a choice, and the choice is you remain God's creation and human, or you move over here and you become Elon Musk's creation, or whoever else is behind it, and you are in fact a slave because that's what the law says. The case is molecular pathology versus genetics, twenty thirteen US Supreme Court case says if they use mRNA for genetic modification, the synthetic product thereof belongs to patent holders. In other words, everybody that got the Moderna or Pfizer shots is now a vaccine slave. They're not human.
Todd Callender:They're a new species, but nobody gave them the choice. Right? That's the distinction. Is it undoable? I think it is undoable, but people are gonna be given that choice.
Todd Callender:Do you wanna have your phone in your noggin? Do you wanna be able to go from here to there in an instant? Yeah. Well, that's the six g range and all the rest stuff that goes with it. If you wanna be a human and die a natural death and live under God's rules and God's creation, then you go ahead and do that too.
Todd Callender:I don't think there's any other way because the one thing we still have, Seth, is freedom of choice, free will. It's a gift from God, and we have to exercise it, and that's what we did when we said no. We're not doing your damn shots. We're not doing your cryptocurrency central bank crap. We're not going along with the program.
Todd Callender:That is the exercise of our free will. God's gifted us, and I think there's a whole lot of us that will continue that.
Seth Holehouse:I I certainly believe so. I know I'm in that group. I know you are.
Todd Callender:And Me too.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. I'd say that that the folks who are watching the show are in the exact same place as well. So so kind of just, you know, recapping as we're concluding here, you you are seeing a massive monetary reset happening, the Yes. System. The the people that are holding gold and silver will be the ones, I think, in my opinion, that they're the ones that will be safe.
Seth Holehouse:Like, that that's that's how I look at it. I look at it as this is a it's a it's an insurance policy that when that reset happens that, like, you know, even I think, honestly, people say, oh, it's just too expensive and gold. Well, even if you have a gram of gold. Right? A gram of gold might be enough to pay off your house.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, who knows? Right? I mean, I don't know exactly, but it's like when you're looking at the collapse of of all the other debts and you're looking at the rebirth of this new this new currency, it's, again, going back into, you know, the country I mentioned earlier where an ounce of silver would feed a family for a month. Like, that's really
Todd Callender:Yes.
Seth Holehouse:That's what it is. That's also in America. Look how few households actually own precious metals. Right? So it's true.
Todd Callender:If someone's got true.
Seth Holehouse:20 ounces of silver, they're already in the top 2% of precious metals owners in America.
Todd Callender:Isn't that crazy? It is. Isn't that crazy?
Robert Kiyosaki:It is. It's true.
Todd Callender:It is. So yeah. I look. I see it the exact same way you did, but I the only proviso I would add to that is that just because you happen to have these resources, let's assume that you're a bankster and you got a bunch of gold in your basement or in your bank, that doesn't mean they are safe. Because if there's criminal conduct associated with that, it is forfeitable.
Todd Callender:The government has the power. They need only alleged probable cause. They don't even have to prove their case, and they'll take it. And that's already been happening behind the scenes. And the reason I know that is because that's what I used to do when I worked in the federal government during law school.
Todd Callender:Right? And it's unfolding now. So if you've done bad things, don't think that gold's gonna save your backside. It may or may not. That's all.
Todd Callender:I only proviso to what you said.
Seth Holehouse:No. That it's it's an important point. So we covered that, and the other half of it is just stay away from the transhumanist agenda. You know, get off of grid. You know, don't don't need next person in line to get the brain chip.
Seth Holehouse:It's pretty simple.
Todd Callender:I mean, they've already a lot of people have already had it. So if you got the shots, you gotta undo that. And there are now modalities and methodologies to do that. We we've done a lot on the CloudHub, which is where we publish a lot of the stuff. Notable experts on there will tell you how to rid your body of these things, including this, to be be frank, to it repairs and rewrites DNA, and we've had vax injured people take it and and get better.
Todd Callender:They're part of a a clinical study. So there are people are coming up with remedies how to undo what has been done, and, I certainly encourage that because everybody deserves a right to make that choice for themselves. Are you gonna be somebody's slave or not is what it boils down to. Thank you, by the way, Seth. That's fantastic.
Todd Callender:And Liberty Club is our new Club two point o coming up. I'm really excited about that.
Seth Holehouse:And what's the
Todd Callender:email address
Seth Holehouse:on that?
Todd Callender:It's liberty club dot net. And it's it's a leapfrog in technology. There you go. That's it. Including a marketplace on there.
Todd Callender:Anything and everything you want, social media is in one place. It's free, of course, and it's uncensored, of course, and available in every spoken language. So if you wanna read all of that in any language you can, if you wanna text with your friends, they can text in Portuguese, you'll get it in English, and you said English, they'll get it Portuguese, for example, Because this fight, Seth, that you have been a leader in has been about humanity. It's global necessarily, and that was always our mission, to make sure that humanity was given the information so that they could make the right choice for themselves. And it is by that, by the grace of God and by that quotient, that we exist today.
Todd Callender:So thank you, and to you and everybody else like you that's been spreading the word, giving people the information to make a choice, to make a reasonable and rational choice.
Seth Holehouse:Well, it's the, the guests like you that come on, that that give me the information.
Todd Callender:It's always an honor.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Todd, it's it's always a pleasure and an honor. Thank you again for giving me your time. I know that you're a busy man, and I always appreciate you making time for me.
Todd Callender:Yeah, brother.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. We'll we'll we'll keep doing these interviews, and I think we'll be watching, hopefully, you know, from the front row seat, the collapse of the old world order. Like, that's that's my hope.
Todd Callender:Yeah. I and and and by the way, I think it's less of a collapse and more of a transition to something much newer, different. It's going from debt model to an equity model economy, and the end result, I think, is gonna be fabulous. We're taking our planet back, brother.
Seth Holehouse:There we go. Well, Todd, thank you so much. It's always great.
Todd Callender:My honor. God bless you.
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