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A thirst quenching podcast for the girls, gays, theys, & astrology baes where we talk about anything & EVERYTHING through an astrological lens.
Hello, guys. Welcome to Tea from the Galaxy. This is a thirst quenching podcast for the Girls Gays theys and Astrology Days, where we will be talking about anything and everything through an astrological lens. And today I have one of my long term besties here. We've been friends for when 2020 since 2020.
Jacob:Damn, I wanna say 2019.
Serena:Was it 2019?
Jacob:I think it was like late twenty nineteen. Like Oh,
Serena:we started being friends Oh. The pandemic. From to Texas Roadhouse. We met at Texas Roadhouse.
Jacob:Let me say how we met. So it was on a Sunday and It
Serena:was Sunday? You're up to the day?
Jacob:Mhmm. I think it was a Sunday. Yeah. And you were just like, I could just tell you were like hungover or something. You just walk in like, I just wanna work here and no one talk to me.
Jacob:Just like like an intimidating aura for sure. But I I just felt like drowsy. I just felt like like I feel like we connect and stuff like that. So Yeah. Then I overheard you speaking to someone about like crystals or something like that.
Jacob:Mhmm. And I just literally started getting into like like I had I recently had like my spiritual awakening and then I like with crystals astrology. I remember you
Serena:were wearing an amethyst necklace.
Jacob:It's crazy. I actually wasn't wearing it. It was in my bag. But after you I ordered that conversation, was like, I don't I didn't know how to, like, start come up to you and, start a conversation. So I went into my bag, wore the necklace, and I made sure you saw it.
Jacob:And I kept walking, and you're like, is that an Amethyst necklace?
Serena:I was like, mhmm.
Jacob:And it just started from there. It was just
Serena:like You wanted to be my bestie from the beginning?
Jacob:No. Now I take it back. Buffy.
Serena:Babesh knows a babesh when a babesh sees another babesh.
Jacob:Facts.
Serena:And we don't get intimidated by each other. We wanna befriend each other. Right. I think that is like a big thing. Okay.
Serena:So we're both this is I didn't even ask you what your big three yet is, but I already know a story, obviously. Scorpio rising, Aries rising were both Martian ruled.
Jacob:Right. Aries rising, Scorpio rising.
Serena:Yeah. So we hold very intimidating energy. And I feel like if you don't have Martian energy in your chart, you can easily get intimidated by that. But I feel like because we are Martian ruled, chart ruler is Mars.
Jacob:Right.
Serena:I I feel like a lot of people forget that your chart ruler is one of the most important points in your birth chart. You both view life through a very like Martian. Yeah.
Jacob:And also like, I feel like it definitely also affects your sense of expression because Yeah, we were together like the whole stomping around. I'm very quick the way I walk. I have a very like aggressive walk, especially when it's
Serena:time to like get work. Okay, so that's one of the first things that I noticed about you. So okay, little backstory. I started working at Texas Roadhouse in 2019. Obviously, COVID happened.
Serena:The pandemic happened. March 2020 shut down. I stopped working for a few months because, you know, I was I was collecting that money. I was collecting that that check. I was like, if I don't have to work and I can still make money, okay.
Serena:But obviously, I was like, alright. I gotta get back to work. So I think I went back to work, what, maybe July 2020 or August 2020. And there was a couple new people that started working there. One of them was you.
Serena:Mhmm. And I just remember I see seeing this guy walk around stomping around very confidently, very, like, poised, posture, was, oh my god, like, perfect. And at the time I was wearing those waist trainers.
Jacob:Yeah. Because I remember she also walked like where her boobs at like.
Serena:That's because I was wearing those waist trainers. It was like a waist trainer and a back and like a back thing. So my shit was always like that too. But yours was naturally like that. And I was like, oh my god, who is this guy?
Serena:Like, he's just like, confident, you know, and I'm like, who is this hard worker, though? And like, fast paced, which I can appreciate because working in a restaurant. Alright. I've been working in restaurants and bars for like, over ten years now. I hate when people are very slow moving and aren't hustling.
Serena:I'm like, okay. He's a hustler. Like, he's in and out of the kitchen. He's doing his job. Honestly, that was my first impression of you.
Serena:But I don't remember the in between between that and when we started talking
Jacob:Mhmm.
Serena:Besides me noticing your crystal necklace Right. Because I was also wearing a lot of crystal necklaces at the time. I was wearing a lot of citrine, working out my sacral chakra at the time. Golden healer, I think I was wearing a lot too. The rest is history.
Jacob:Yeah.
Serena:Yeah. We just clicked, I feel like.
Jacob:Yeah. We just clicked and we started making plans to like hang out and stuff. And I remember at work, I'd be distracted. He was into like spirituality, astrology, all that way before me because I just had my spiritual awakening.
Serena:Yeah, I remember
Jacob:that period. Everything was brand new astrology. I was on my YouTube like tourists are stubborn. They love food and all those like YouTube memes and all that.
Serena:And I love the open mindedness that you were in because I was like, oh, you're getting into it. Like, I've been in it. Okay. Let me let me talk to the teacher in me that loves talking about astrology and like loves teaching about astrology and how open minded you were. I love that about you because you were you would be like, tell me more.
Serena:Tell me more. What up? Yeah. Okay. So let's backtrack a little bit because there are a couple of things that I do like asking my guests on the podcast before we start even though we started already.
Serena:But you can answer these questions if you feel comfortable. Three to three in the club. Okay.
Jacob:Let's be. Literally.
Serena:Numbers like crazy. So since he came down, Jacob is currently living in Georgia. So I am
Jacob:actually no, I think more of that.
Serena:I'm obviously in South Florida right now. So I he's been here since Saturday. It's currently Monday. We've seeing angel numbers like crazy since Saturday the past couple days. But yeah, they're three on the clock right now.
Serena:But a couple questions to ask you, Your age, your pronouns Mhmm. Your sexual identity
Jacob:Okay.
Serena:And what your big three is so we can all know get be on a deeper understanding
Jacob:Okay.
Serena:Of each other.
Jacob:So my name, Jacob. Age, I'm 23 years old. My pronouns are he, him. My sexuality, I'm gay. And Okay.
Jacob:Tide one. And my big three is I'm an Aries rising, Taurus sun, and Capricorn moon. Yeah.
Serena:Love that. So another reason, the more that we got into astrology, I was like, oh, this is another big reason why we collect. We both have Capricorn moons, not even just Capricorn moons. So we have a Capricorn moon at the sixth degree, like literally the same exact Capricorn placement.
Jacob:I don't know about the degrees that much. What that means. I don't really
Serena:You know how astrology is a big onion? The more layers that you peel, the more deeper and the understanding of a person that you get. Mhmm. So, you know, when you're learning about astrology, can okay. We're both Capricorn moons.
Serena:Like, we know we know a lot of Capricorn moons that are also very different.
Jacob:Exactly.
Serena:So now we gotta unpack, okay, what are the aspects of that the moon is making? Because a Capricorn moon who has a square Pluto is way different than a Capricorn moon that has a trine Venus. Right. You know, like, Pluto is definitely gonna go through a lot more hardships than a trine Venus is probably a more charming person. Another layer, the degrees, that the degrees acts as like a different flavoring of your moon sign.
Serena:So there's like the first deck in which is like zero to nine or 10 I believe. Mhmm. The second deck in 10 to 20.
Jacob:Okay. Third deck in
Serena:is like 20 to 21 to 29.
Jacob:Yeah. Think like the first one is like more of like a new energy. Maybe like this is an energy you're not used to. For example, someone who has like 29 degrees that shows that okay, you've been working on this over lifetimes. It's coming to like completion.
Jacob:Yeah. And like earlier degrees is like, you're just starting to learn this.
Serena:That's definitely that's definitely a thing too. Like the earlier degrees, they say if you have early degree placements, then you are probably more of like a newer soul and you're here to like learn newer things, be more open minded. Mhmm. Than if you have like later degree placements, especially 29 degrees. The 29 is a critical degree in astrology.
Serena:So if you have a 29 degree in your chart, most likely you are like an older soul. You've lived a lot of lessons through that. What that meaning of that planet means, like, let's say you have a 29 degree Venus, like, you probably have lived a lot a lot of lifetimes where you've learned a lot of lessons about love, relationships, finances, money, stuff like that. We're in this lifetime, it could feel like almost a big pressure, innate wisdom. And it's kind of like, it could feel very hard, but it's just like an old soul type of energy.
Serena:Like, that's the most the way I could describe it. Right. Like, if you have a 29 degree, but also having a Capricorn moon too. That's like, oh, it's giving old soul. I always think Jacob is older than what he is.
Serena:Like, and that is a big Capricorn moon thing. Like getting told that we are old souls. How old are you? People think that we're older. People always think that I'm older.
Jacob:They always think I'm older.
Serena:Yeah. That's a big ricorn woman thing. I think we carry ourselves in a very mature way. And I also find that attractive in people too. Like, you've lived life, you're wise, you're mature, you're not like childish.
Serena:Although I can appreciate like, someone who is childish, if that's all that you're bringing to the table, like just childish, you can't you can't be serious about anything. Yeah. I'm like,
Jacob:I'm actually there's a difference between like childlike energy and someone who's just straight up childish.
Serena:Yes. A %. Mhmm. Like, I think we're both very mature, but also childlike energy.
Jacob:Like we embrace our inner child.
Serena:Yeah, we both have Gemini Menuses too. So that's a big thing. So we're like, mature, been through shit, especially in childhood. A lot of responsibility all the time, chasing the bag, security stability is a big thing.
Jacob:Yeah.
Serena:But also a kid at heart and like, The whole book When it's to
Jacob:play, it's time to play.
Serena:Yeah. It's definitely time to play. We always question. We always question on people.
Jacob:Don't even get me started on that.
Serena:You Gemini Aquinas?
Jacob:Yeah. I feel like everywhere I worked, I probably had a crush on every single person. And I'm like, oh, I have a typo, but I don't, if I'm being honest with myself.
Serena:We don't.
Jacob:I like everything.
Serena:That is a big thing. And segue into happy Pride Month, guys. Okay.
Jacob:Happy Pride Month.
Serena:And everyone that is going to be on this podcast this month is going to be a fellow queer because if not, feel like that is homophobic. Are you doing?
Jacob:Wait, how do you know I'm queer?
Serena:How do I know you're queer?
Jacob:What if I was straight?
Serena:Well, you're not. And I know that I've been
Jacob:I am. And I feel offended.
Serena:I am. How do you know? Do you know?
Jacob:Now that's a motherfucker. That's a motherfucker.
Serena:Goal of this podcast is to view everything through an astrological lens. But being, you know, part of the LGBTQ community, I think something that lacks in the mixture of the LGBTQ community and the astrology community, which there is a community of that with within itself. Right? A lot of the gays love astrology. Why is there still a lack of content that I'm seeing about what it is like for Harry's man and a Taurus man together?
Serena:What what does that relationship look like? A Gemini woman and a Cancer woman dating together? What does that look
Jacob:like? So like hetero
Serena:It's very hetero.
Jacob:Yeah. Like Gemini man, Gemini woman. Even on like compatibility websites too, it's just like there's no because it's a very very different relationships, A heterosexual relationship and a homosexual relationship.
Serena:No queer relationships as well. Like, there can be more of a masculine figure and more of a feminine figure, but sometimes not even all the time. Sometimes you're both.
Jacob:Facts.
Serena:And you just pick each other up at different points in your life. Exactly. I think there needs to be more content on that. So that's definitely something I wanna talk about more on this podcast. But being that you have a Gemini Venus and I also have a Gemini Venus Mhmm.
Serena:And we're very misunderstood. So
Jacob:Serial cheaters.
Serena:Serial cheaters, horse lutz. We don't know what we want. We we get bored easily. We hop around from person to person. So I think we need to kind of explain maybe more of what we like, what we crave, what we need.
Serena:So people can understand us. Yeah. So I will say the rep of getting bored easily. So I guess true or false. You get bored easily.
Serena:Me, I feel like I I can I can get bored easily?
Jacob:Do. Yeah. I was like, I feel like everyone can get bored depending on the person. Like, if the person is just not your vibe, you're not like, into the same things or into something that I could be interested in, like, I don't know.
Serena:Mental stimulation Especially,
Jacob:oh, well, yeah. Someone who can't hold a conversation definitely Yeah.
Serena:I'm gonna
Jacob:get bored.
Serena:One dimensional. So tell me if you feel this the same way. One dimensional people Hell
Jacob:no. Born. People who are closed minded, we're not even gonna be friends.
Serena:Yeah. It's not even gonna get past the first date, babe.
Jacob:Like Facts.
Serena:I I love people who I was telling you this last night, like, DJs are attractive to me because, like, what do you like, how do you like so many genres of music? Like, when you see a certain type of person and then all of a sudden they're playing, like, I don't know, Lady Gaga, but they look like they only listen to
Jacob:Travis Scott.
Serena:Yeah. I'm like I'm like, like, oh, like, or they or they put on some, like, throwback music. And I'm like, oh, okay. Like, I like that you like different types of music. Like, someone who just plays one different genre of music, that right there might sound like a little thing, but that's a dub.
Serena:Like, that's a dub for me. Like, I can't marry you. You only listen to rap. Or I can't marry you. You only listen to country.
Serena:Like, that is no. That's a dubby. It's a dubby. Like, I need, like, people who have dimension to them. Because I feel like we're multi layered.
Serena:Mhmm. And we like people who are also multi layered too.
Jacob:Yeah, because we're interested in so many different things and we could be interested in many more. So I'm definitely very attracted to someone who can like hold a conversation into very much different things. Yeah. Intelligent, a chore, fun.
Serena:If anything Gemini Venus people need more standards. We get bored easily but we also fall in love easily. Yeah.
Jacob:Friends to lovers. Gemini Venus cannot escape that. If you befriend them first, and you guys connect, and then you
Serena:Friends to lovers is important.
Jacob:They can't resist that trap. Yeah, that's a very big thing for me.
Serena:I think I I'm always I'm always in the trap of friends to lovers. Yeah.
Jacob:Don't even get me started with the guy I met at in college. We connected. We spoke on the phone for like five hours every fucking day at night after school. It consumed me. I was obsessed.
Jacob:Yeah. We feel I used use like different psychics like, okay, how does it feel? It was insane. Borderline insane. And I don't like people.
Jacob:That's probably the first and last guy I've liked. Yeah. I've attracted people all the time, but that's different.
Serena:That's such a thing. Oh my god. Yes. Gemini Venus thing. It might be also we have a Capricorn, Moon, Gemini Venus combination.
Serena:Maybe if you have more Gemini Venus, like, with Gemini and fire placements, maybe you're a little opposite than this. But I feel like because our charts are similar in the way that we be getting crushes easily, but I don't commit easily. Exactly. Like, no. Those I I've been in three relationships where there was a title.
Serena:If I put a title on something, it's because I saw myself marrying you already. Okay. I I don't think I will put a title on something that I feel like I don't see it could be long term. And then the moment that I feel like it can't be long term, maybe this is a Capricorn moon thing. The moment that I feel like that I this isn't gonna be long term Mhmm.
Serena:Is the moment that the talking stage is done, and I get the ache and I run away. And this is the where Gemini Venus, gets the rep of leading people on. Mhmm. I will say I think we do do that because it's not even but it's not even like leading you on generally trying to get to know you. Yeah.
Serena:Like, this is Like, you gonna is not dating. Like, I'm trying to get to know you. Right. I realize I don't like you. So why am I gonna keep this going?
Jacob:Until you get someone else who just like stimulates that part that you're missing with that current person is like, bye.
Serena:So do you feel like it takes it? You say bye when you find someone else who's similar to you?
Jacob:Well, that's the thing. Like, can say anything, but like, I've never been in a relationship.
Serena:Yeah. So this is a little different.
Jacob:We've never
Serena:been in a relationship. I've been in three relationships. But there's also this is why it's like nice to kind of get the different perspectives of a Gemini Venus. Because a lot of also people think that Gemini Venus people aren't in long term relationships, and I have been in long term relationships. I also have another good friend who has been in multiple long term relationships.
Serena:She has a Gemini Venus. Not that like we don't like to commit. I think we're I think Gemini Venus people know what they don't like. And I will say though, I never had a backup ready for me. Like, was never like
Jacob:Oh, no.
Serena:People on and I was like Yeah. Left because I was already being stimulated by someone else. Mhmm. I was never like that. But the moment that I wasn't being stimulated anymore is a moment where I just like shut down.
Serena:It's hard for for me to bounce back from the I'm bored. I'm bored. Like, this isn't working. If I don't see this long term, long term to me is not even just stability like a stable person, but someone who can be my lifelong bestie. If I'm bored, and I don't see this being like a you're my long term bestie.
Jacob:Rigid? No.
Serena:Too rigid, too controlling.
Jacob:Oh, yeah.
Serena:Gemini Venus people, we don't like that.
Jacob:I don't like Gemini Venus. They see myself being good friends with someone that like, we didn't work out I didn't work out with romantically.
Serena:Well, yeah, you say that haven't been in a
Jacob:relationship. Ouch.
Serena:Not even an adult, just
Jacob:joking. Yeah.
Serena:Because me also, me being a Gemini Venus that I that I am, I have tried being friends with all my exes after it ended. The first two literally crashed and burned to the fucking grounds. My last girlfriend, she we're still friendly. We're still we're we're still friends. Mhmm.
Serena:But there was a point in our friendship where we realized that we can't be as good as friends as maybe we want to be. If there was always respect in the relationship, it just didn't work out. I think it's possible. If there was a lot of disrespect that went down in the relationship, I don't think it's possible.
Jacob:A %.
Serena:Think like, Jonah Venus is we want it. The air Venus is period. Like, we we really love being friends with our partners, our lovers, and we want that friendship forever.
Jacob:Yeah. Because it was almost like we're friends first before lovers. So like, I don't want to lose my friend. Yeah. If that makes sense.
Serena:That is such a thing that Gemini Venus people deal with. Maybe just air sign Venus people deal with period that when it was it was so hard for me to separate from my partners because I fell in love. We fall in love not just for what people look like, but who they truly are and their mentality and the fact that they're our best friends. So it's like, now I gotta break up with you because we're not working out romantically, but it's so hard because now it's gonna I'm gonna lose a best friend and a lover and one. Yeah.
Serena:And that is like, that is the most heartbreaking part of
Jacob:it. Feel. Mhmm. For
Serena:sure. To me, I wish I could be friends with all my exes. Like, there's a reason that they're my exes. I we were really good friends. But I mean, that's what it is.
Jacob:What Venus sign would you think twice before dating?
Serena:Like, would be hesitant?
Jacob:Yes.
Serena:Honestly, Aries, Venus.
Jacob:I was gonna say the same thing. Aries.
Serena:Yeah.
Jacob:They're insane.
Serena:Yeah. But I will say my best friend has an Aries Venus maybe because she has a Taurus stellium. Oh. Grounds her. Aries Venus, I I just feel like I can't trust.
Jacob:I'm gonna see someone they're attracted to. Even just for a split second. It's over. Oh, so I'm
Serena:sure. They're
Jacob:attracted to
Serena:tell the people is so uninvolved. Yeah. I just feel like it's always like a, I'm always just gonna be forever in a competition of who's hotter and if you find Yeah. Yeah. Are attracted.
Serena:It's almost like
Jacob:it's it's almost like they'll find someone they'll get someone. They're like, oh, if I bagged you, I can bag someone hotter. Let me try that.
Serena:And you
Jacob:can just keep the cycle going.
Serena:Aries Moon's Aries Venus. Having a Capricorn Moon, so different to the point where it's we don't understand each other. Like, I just don't understand how you deal with things like that. Big love bombers. I don't like that.
Serena:I feel like that trust issues how quick they are to move on to the next. Like, did you even process an emotion? It's Venus people also have very high expectations that I don't really like either.
Jacob:Yeah. I feel like everything you're seeing now you're describing men. Am I correct? Like Aries. They always give bad reps.
Jacob:Both? Okay.
Serena:Both. I will say both.
Jacob:Yeah. But I will say on the flip side, if you meet a mature Aries that has that has done work on themselves, they are very like, they will fight for you. They will definitely fight for you and protect you. They are very protective and they could be loyal, like warrior type energy.
Serena:A fight to the death. My best friend with the Aries Venus, the only times I've really seen her like ready to fight
Jacob:It's to defend.
Serena:Her to defend her relationships a %. Mhmm. To defend her man.
Jacob:Mhmm. Very uplifting. Yeah. As well with Aries energy as like, think of it as like the energy of like a child, a spoiled child.
Serena:Yeah. And as well, Aries
Jacob:right. But like on the evolved side on the evolved side, think of it as like a football coach. Someone who's like, you can do
Serena:this. Empowering.
Jacob:Yeah. Very,
Serena:Yeah. That's
Jacob:how that's kinda how I see Very
Serena:true. That is very true. I do love Aries energy for the fact that it's it's creative. It's, you know, courageous, it's bold, it's it's doing things. It's the first sign of the zodiac as a leader, natural born leader, they get shit done.
Serena:They do. I don't like the impulsivity being a Cancer Sun, Mars and Capricorn Moon. And I think so much about everybody else. When I meet someone who doesn't kind of think similarly like that, they're just thinking for themselves. So a little triggering to me because it's like, I don't understand how you're not like me.
Serena:One, two. Maybe I wish I could be like more like you.
Jacob:Thanks. Was just about
Serena:to say think when something triggers you, you really gonna put a mirror to your face and wonder why is it triggering
Jacob:you. Mhmm.
Serena:And that's something that I realized about Ari's placements. I'm like, ugh. I wish I could be more like Are you a couple impulsive like that. Mhmm. What would you say at being a Gemini Venus, your top three things that you crave and desire?
Serena:A partner and then platonic, any type of any type of relationship. Because I feel like when we talk about Venus, everyone thinks about romantic partnerships. But Venus isn't just that. It's it's also like what you desire in relationships in general.
Jacob:Yeah. So relationships period. Number one, open mindedness. Sure. You might not know as much, but like if you're open minded to like learning and talking about stuff and thinking about putting twins together that makes sense.
Jacob:That's number one spontaneous almost down for anything enter.
Serena:I love open mindedness.
Jacob:Okay, I'll say that for now
Serena:as people in general and what about real romantic
Jacob:Romantic playful. I want someone I love someone who's playful, open minded, good with their hands. Pun intended.
Serena:I just want
Jacob:to say that.
Serena:Okay. Okay. They go with their hand. That is very true.
Jacob:Definitely. It's a sex thing too.
Serena:See, this is where I'm a little different. I can get down with sex thing voice notes. No FaceTime. No,
Jacob:I'm more Gemini than you because
Serena:Yeah. Well, he has yeah. You have Gemini, Venus, and Mars. So Mars is like what you sexually desire too.
Jacob:Like, you
Serena:got all the g you got all the Gemini. Gemini. Gemini. Gemini. Where am I from?
Serena:Mhmm. Gemini.
Jacob:Like Sexing, it just feels like sex or like as but if you combine both who are having sex and someone is speaking like
Serena:Noises?
Jacob:If you I because I have people who are, like, heavily against, like, a loud sex and, all that.
Serena:Oh, not me. Not me. Facts. I like that.
Jacob:Silent sex? Ew. No.
Serena:Yeah. What are you doing?
Jacob:Dirty talk.
Serena:Sexy music playlist in the background. I like I like music playing in the background.
Jacob:Oh, yeah. That I like dirty talk. You don't?
Serena:No. I mean, I like I like if I'm having sex with someone who's good at dirty talk and it gets too much, I'm like, like, don't be out here calling me a dirty slut. I have my cancer Mars. I need to be treated like
Jacob:That makes sense.
Serena:Falsely. Okay.
Jacob:Well, doesn't it scorpio rising when I like
Serena:Oh, I'm very sexual. I'm very open.
Jacob:Tap into the dark I'm
Serena:very close to switch in the bedroom, but I don't like heavy
Jacob:BDSM. Pain. Okay.
Serena:Don't call me a slut. Don't call me a whore. Tell me I'm the best you ever had.
Jacob:Well, call me a slut. Call me a whore. I
Serena:like being told like uplifting things like
Jacob:So you need a Leo Venus. So like a Leo, please don't wanna do that for you.
Serena:I I already told you Yes. Leo's. Leo's is x out of my life. Yes. Like that.
Serena:Since no joke. Since I'm fucking 14 years old, I'm not even joking. Every single person I've been with has some type of Leo placement. They need to be ex exiled for my life. Leo Rising's for sure.
Serena:I'll still be open to other Leo placements. Like, I I do like a Leo Venus placement. Okay. Leo Venus is you know, they put you on a pedestal. Yeah.
Serena:I love that shit. So that's good.
Jacob:The Leos might get mad. They're be so mad about
Serena:All the
Jacob:bitch wants talk about themselves. They're very self centered. Isn't true though.
Serena:Leo Leo placements are
Jacob:shallow. They
Serena:are especially especially especially especially the underdeveloped side of Leos. The attention always needs to be on them. Things always revert back to them.
Jacob:Yeah. Like, they suck out the light in the room. That's how I feel.
Serena:Dark Leo energy.
Jacob:Right. This this girl I went to. She's not a representation of all Leos, of course, but like this she literally sucked out all the light in the room. Interesting. She was just so oh.
Jacob:Yeah. Anything that's go anything good that's going on around her, she has to shift it to herself and she just sucks it away.
Serena:That's an interesting perspective because Leo's do take up the light in the room. They're the center of the tension, but I never viewed it in a way how some can literally suck the
Jacob:light. Yeah. Because Leo, you're ruled by the sun. You're meant to shine light on everyone around you. Like, it's almost like that's your nature in the light.
Jacob:But in the dark, you're sucking the light out of people for your own advantage or, like, satisfy your lack of self esteem. Mhmm. Damn. I'm reading Leo's right now. I promise.
Serena:Leo gang, they're gonna be in the comments like No. They're gonna
Jacob:kill me.
Serena:We're the best. What do you mean? Especially they are like that. They're like, we're the best.
Jacob:They're very intense.
Serena:They're like
Jacob:Very
Serena:The best. That's why I'm a Leo.
Jacob:I mean, lion. Rock? They're the lion. Oh, yeah. I like Bretman.
Jacob:I love Bretman Rock.
Serena:Bretman I like Rock.
Jacob:Watching this video with him and his boyfriend too. That's like my
Serena:They are.
Jacob:New source of entertainment. Yeah. Oh, do you like PDA?
Serena:I don't like PDA.
Jacob:You don't like PDA?
Serena:It depends. Like
Jacob:If it's forced to the It
Serena:depends in the certain scenario. With my family. No. I don't like it. I went over it with my family.
Jacob:Different. You know?
Serena:Everywhere else. Yeah. We're like, whatever. But
Jacob:Like, you're in a restaurant with, like, let's say, with your group of friends and you're just like.
Serena:With a group of friends, the reason that I might not be super into PDA with my group of friends, it seems like you're alienating alienating yourself.
Jacob:Right.
Serena:It's kinda like, why are you here? Like, we're not supposed to be here as a group. But I'm big on that too. Like, I love group activities with my partner. That's probably one of the biggest qualities that I need in a partner.
Jacob:Need That's number one.
Serena:Need them to have their own group of friends. I have my own group of friends. You can easily integrate into my group of friends, I can easily integrate into your group of friends. That is a huge, huge, huge thing that I need.
Jacob:Yeah, feel like that's why they say Gemini Venus is they usually meet their love partners through like friends.
Serena:Yeah, definitely. I see. That's very important. So yeah, when I'm out with my friends, I don't I don't like doing that. Been in relationships before where they're super PDA around my friends and
Jacob:It just makes everyone uncomfortable.
Serena:Yeah. Making us you're alienating ourselves. And I was never that type of girl at where I'm alienating. I was always a group girly. And there was very rare times where I'm like clinging onto one type of person.
Serena:I know girls especially who are like that, they'll cling on to a certain person. I, oh, I drive in groups. Like, love being around surrounded by groups. I'm like out at a restaurant or something like that and like or we're walking in public, yeah, I don't mind PDA. I want everyone to know that I'm yours and your mine.
Serena:I think that is something that makes me fall for someone too. Like when they're like showing me off at first.
Jacob:Yeah. Like that too.
Serena:Yeah. Like that. I'm like
Jacob:because I was never
Serena:What do you think is the top three gayest signs?
Jacob:Top three gayest.
Serena:My number one is Gemini. I think Gemini is a very gay sign.
Jacob:My number one is Libra.
Serena:Yeah. Yeah. I would say I would say Libra is number four.
Jacob:Number four?
Serena:Yeah. Because I have other ones that go before it.
Jacob:Why am I going to hyperest? Because that's crazy. I'll say Libra, Gemini for sure.
Serena:Mhmm.
Jacob:And Pisces.
Serena:Yeah, Pisces goes to number Mine is Gemini, Aquarius, Sagittarius.
Jacob:Oh, Aquarius. That's a good one.
Serena:Yeah,
Jacob:that's a good one.
Serena:Aquarius's love like just someone who is completely different. Like minded like a like minded in a lot of ways, but they're just physically attracted to like someone who intrigues them. Like every literally no joke, every Aquarius Venus person I know or every Aquarius heavy person, they just love being intrigued, which is very similar to Gemini too.
Jacob:Yeah. Someone like out someone that's out of the box, someone who's like outside of the like the social norms and stuff like that.
Serena:I think Gemini though, because we're ruled by Gemini is ruled by Mercury. Mhmm. They definitely crave that the mental stimulation part and the being able to carry conversations part, the the wittiness, the joking around.
Jacob:And they're also, like, very curious. They would most likely be.
Serena:So I think the mental stimulation and the communication part
Jacob:Mhmm.
Serena:Is definitely like, Gemini and Aquarius, they're both intrigued by people of all different types. Mhmm. But I feel like Gemini definitely requires a lot more mental stimulation and wittiness and childlike wonder
Jacob:Mhmm.
Serena:Than Aquarius. Aquarius can be a little bit more serious. They're ruled by Saturn.
Jacob:Mhmm.
Serena:So they're like I know a lot of Aquariuses are very fun, but also it's kinda like if you're not on the same page of with of this of a lot of the same things with them, they can easily be like Yeah. Locking you
Jacob:out, like
Serena:on to the next on to the next.
Jacob:Very stubborn. I was raised by an Aquarius. My mom was an Aquarius.
Serena:Oh, okay. My mom was an Aquarius moon.
Jacob:Oh, yeah?
Serena:Yeah. My mom's a Capricorn.
Jacob:Damn. Double Saturn.
Serena:A lot of tough love. Sure. Tough love the house.
Jacob:My mom's here for sure. Do you
Serena:know her moon sign?
Jacob:Virgo. Yeah. She knows That's little
Serena:hard for too.
Jacob:Fact, she notices like everything. Very included.
Serena:And your sister's a Virgo too. Right?
Jacob:Yeah. My sister's Virgo and Pisces moon.
Serena:I love that. I love Pisces moons.
Jacob:That's life. That's literally my favorite moon time.
Serena:Yeah. I love Pisces moons. I always joke around my future partner is gonna have a Pisces moon. I don't know, like, who I'm gonna marry. I might have a Pisces moon.
Serena:I don't know. It's just I love that placement.
Jacob:Yeah. They're just so, like, healing. I feel like they're one of those moon signs that grow through so much, but they just come out of it, like, almost, like, softer, and they spread that softness. So, like,
Serena:everyone knows having a Capricorn moon, we go through a lot, but it causes us to have a very a big shell.
Jacob:A hard yeah. Hardened it like hardens us us up. Yeah. Well, like, for them, it's almost like the opposite.
Serena:It softens that. It call it like they can because they've been through it Mhmm. They it causes them to have a lot of empathy where they want to heal other people, especially especially spiritually versus us. We're like, get away from me. Like, I've been through this before.
Jacob:Right.
Serena:And it's hard. But I like that Pisces moons have the ability to soften us.
Jacob:Yes.
Serena:Because I can't be with another hardcore person who's gonna soften me up. We're both hard.
Jacob:Five born moons were like completely different and just like in touch with their emotions and very emotionally intelligent. It's like we're both heading there. But Yeah. Still, obviously, we still have like a lot of work to do.
Serena:I go through roller coasters in my life, And this is definitely something that I struggle with having a Capricorn moon and I'm still healing through it. I feel like but, you know, your moon sign rules how your childhood Mhmm. Your family dynamics, your parents, especially your mother. It's subconscious things. It's how you the coping mechanisms that you learned in your childhood.
Serena:So breaking that apart in adulthood is not easy work. Like they say healing isn't linear. It's so true. Like, sometimes I feel like I'm doing so good, and I get knocked off my feet. And then I'm I feel like I'm back at square one, and I need to, like, reheal myself again.
Jacob:Right.
Serena:I find myself in different coping mechanisms where I'm like, damn, this isn't healthy. And I think the most unhealthy thing about Capricorn moon is the inability to see that sometimes because we are so good at suppressing.
Jacob:Yes. It's like Capricorn moon, just like it's almost like you're born with inner critic, a very loud and powerful inner critic.
Serena:Always. That's the number one thing I always realized about Capricorn moons. Probably all the Capricorn moons I've met in my life have had mommy issues, except one recently.
Jacob:And
Serena:he like has such a good relationship with his mother. And I'm like, it caused me to have such a different perspective on Capricorn moons. But I will say, he is like his own worst enemy, self critic, like, holds himself back and procrastination.
Jacob:Yeah.
Serena:Because of the fear because needing to be perfect and the fear of rejection or the fear of not being good enough Mhmm. And because always wanting to give a 10% to everything that we do, which I think is a good quality
Jacob:Yes.
Serena:It causes you it causes us to be procrastinators because we're like, if this isn't gonna be a hundred, then it's gonna be a zero.
Jacob:Right.
Serena:So that is like a downfall because sometimes you just have to say fuck it.
Jacob:Yeah. I think we have that Capricorn moon. I feel like no matter how good your external or whatever it is, it's gonna I feel like it always leaves you with like a wound. It's like, everything is go everything is going so well. I'm blessed with like an amazing family and all that.
Jacob:Now I feel like I don't deserve it. Now you're going down this whole rabbit hole.
Serena:I think that the biggest thing that Capricorn moon needs to get past is believing in themselves. That's like a big a big thing. Patience is a big lesson. Mhmm. I think if you have any Capricorn placements, sun, moon, rising, Venus, especially the success comes later.
Serena:Ruled by Saturn. Saturn moves in thirty, twenty nine, thirty year cycles. Mhmm. And that's why they say Capricorn is age like like fine wine. It's very true.
Serena:The success comes later. The love life comes later. The looks come later. Like, you know, maybe not like all of the above. But if you're really struggling at something and you're like, I just can't get it right.
Serena:Learn patience because we're meant to have it more long term and long lasting. It's not like you're waiting for no reason. I think that's something that Capricorn placements need to realize. You're not just waiting around for no reason unless you really are not doing anything. Like there's free will and everything.
Serena:Right? You're really not waiting around for no reason. You're like, it's just never gonna happen for me. Mhmm. It's kinda like how bad do you want it?
Serena:Saturn is testing you Mhmm. Because Saturn wants you to be fully prepared for what you truly want. Mhmm. If you were to be successful tomorrow, would you even know how to handle the millions of dollars that's
Jacob:in your
Serena:bank account? Or would you just blow
Jacob:it? Mhmm.
Serena:So it's like the thing because the more mature that you are Mhmm. When you do receive your blessings, you are in a better mind state to handle it for the most part. I will say.
Jacob:Yeah. And that's in like with Saturn, it's very like big on like consistency misconception of like, oh my god, if I'm not taking big steps, then I'm not making any progress, but that's like not Saturn and then she's like, as long as you're doing something every day towards your goal, it could be even if it's like, it could be like five minutes of like, as long as you're consistent doing it every day is always gonna work in your favor.
Serena:Yeah, that's what I think. That's very true. That is something that I definitely struggle with too. Think because we're so focused on the endgame. We were just talking about this yesterday.
Serena:We're so focused on like all our future goals that we're just like we just want it. We just want to be there. We feel it. We see it. We know that we can accomplish it.
Serena:I love the the hardworking aspects and like the hardworking nature and Capricorn placements, we get lost in our big goals. Virgo is definitely better at the little details to get to accomplishing the goal Capricorns can get overwhelmed. Yeah, with those big goals and can be big procrastinators, which a lot of people don't realize that I think if you're just scrolling on Tiktok, and you're like Capricorn stereotypes, hardworking entrepreneur. Yeah, it's true. But the very toxic side is actually being the complete opposite, which is procrastinating bum, because you get lost in these goals, to the point that you lose all type of hope in a way because you're like, I have these big goals.
Serena:I don't believe in myself in accomplishing them.
Jacob:But I do know, like, there's some people that don't resonate with the whole, like, Capricorn workaholic. One of my very good friends, Capricorn towards something but not in the sense of like a job, but more in the sense of like myself working on myself, killing myself, becoming the best version of myself that I can be.
Serena:I love that.
Jacob:All that we also have like a very like big sensitive side.
Serena:Oh yeah, for sure. And the sister side of cancer.
Jacob:Cancer, don't show it and we might distract ourselves for like a job or goal and all that, but like it's a lot of repression, but also like some level of awareness. If you open up yourself up to it because you have some kind of moments where you're just like emotions and don't know, so handle it or like channel it.
Serena:Earth moons, they get the rep of being maybe emotionless, heartless. Mhmm. But when you really think about Earth, how deep the Earth goes to the center of the Earth. Mhmm. Like, we wanna think of our moon sign as our core selves, it's us to the center.
Serena:It's who we are to the core. And Earth is literally core of this planet is. To say that Earth's moons are emotionless is really misunderstand them Yeah. Completely.
Jacob:We've been so sure the same way as everyone else.
Serena:Definitely don't easily cry. Feel like we don't like showing vulnerability is a big thing. All ties back to childhood. Like, if we were either told that being vulnerable is a wrong thing. So in adulthood, we don't like showing it.
Serena:We weren't shown the tools on how to be sensitive or how to be emotional, I should say. So as an adult, we just figure out about other ways to deal with it or we just completely suppress it. There's there's sister signs to the water. We think deeply, we feel deeply.
Jacob:Mhmm.
Serena:We're just not gonna show it that much. But it doesn't mean that it's not there. It's it's very much there, and it's very much long lasting too. I feel like fire and air moons are better at kind of letting things go quicker. Water and earth is very consistent.
Serena:Mhmm. So the pain is there for a very long time, and that's why we feel things for a very long time. They linger. It lingers.
Jacob:I think like a very good shoulder to cry on for sure.
Serena:Oh, yeah. For sure. Because we're stable. How many times people tell me that I have such a nurturing, like stable type of aura, like energy to the table?
Jacob:Yeah.
Serena:And I don't even realize that. I just always thought like even before I do anything about astrology, was like, oh, yeah, I'm a cancer. Like maybe that's the nurturing energy that you're feeling. Mhmm. But I think it's because we like I had that water that earth in my chart.
Serena:Mhmm. You have a lot of earth in your chart too that we just like kind of naturally not energy, even if I don't feel like that too. Because sometimes people will say that to me and I'm like, I'm literally going through the most chaotic time period in my fucking life. I'm glad that I can be stable for you. I wish I was that for myself.
Serena:Capricorn moons get the rep of having, you know, not the best childhoods, very rough childhoods, having to grow up fast, being like, you know, a lot of responsibility being put on early in them or not good relationships with their parents, especially a mother. Mhmm. Does any of that relate to you? Can you like what was your childhood like as a Capricorn moon growing up? Remember, guys, he is a Taurus sun.
Serena:Eiry's rising. Well, not every Capricorn moons is gonna have the same experience, but a lot of Capricorn moons do have this similar experience of having to grow up really fast. A lot of responsibility being put on them, or just having like really not a good relationship with their with their mother very, not good or just a strange like, lack of a connection. Or they just view their mother as like a really authoritative, very boss bitch type of energy. Like, while my mom is like, she gets shit done and like, you know, you don't
Jacob:Yeah. That was exactly how it was like. Actually, like, my my mom was like, I felt when I was younger, I definitely had like a great relationship with my mom, but she was deaf. I saw her work her ass off. Yeah.
Jacob:And I saw I also but I also like observed her go through like so much like ups and downs financially and I just remember being like the backbone too. Like I also like taking care of her because like single parent, I remember like being like taking care of her when we didn't have much. I observed like a lot. I just remembered being like a very melancholic child.
Serena:I relate to that. Observing a lot. I think that's a big thing with Capricorn moons to sitting back and observing a lot.
Jacob:Yeah, I was definitely like very like a boss woman very assertive. Oh my god, because as a child, I was like painfully shy, avoided confrontation, did not stand up for myself. My mom was the opposite, and she always like, Jacob, you need to be confident no matter what. You need to, like, speak up, and that was a very big thing for me. She definitely pushed me like she definitely like pushed me very hard.
Jacob:Definitely not easy to impress.
Serena:That's so funny because I have a similar experience with my mom too.
Jacob:I had this one race where like 10 of us, I was like seventh position, but I just did horribly. I just wasn't on my, like, a game. After and I went upstairs to where she was, she was like, yeah. You didn't do a good job today. Straight up.
Jacob:She's not gonna try to sugarcoat. I'm
Serena:like Yeah. There was no sugarcoating
Jacob:there. No sugarcoating.
Serena:Yeah. My mom was a tough cookie. She instilled the toughness in
Jacob:me. Facts.
Serena:A %, especially the women in my life. Yeah. %. But she no no sugarcoating. No sugar brutally honest.
Serena:Very brutally The lack probably not nurturing. My mom was definitely not nurturing.
Jacob:Yeah. My mom like my mom, she's like a very wise woman. That's the thing like we the cap like I feel like capstone policeman can be like incredibly wise. Mhmm. But there's always that emotional factor like, yeah, they're giving you wisdom, emotional factors.
Jacob:Just like, okay.
Serena:Yeah. I definitely lack the, you know, when little kids are like just want their mommy. Mhmm. Like, feel like I never really had that. I never really like confided in my mom like that.
Serena:It was definitely because of things that my mom was going through in when I was a child too. Like, if I'm if I'm gonna keep it real, like me and my mom did not have a good relationship when I was growing up, like, definitely typical Capricorn moon. And that's just being brutally honest. I have a like a better relationship now, I think especially because I don't we don't live together. Mhmm.
Serena:Like, think the last like really bad fight we had was probably like two months before I moved out of her house. But and since then, since I live in Florida now, my mom lives in Jersey, like, definitely a better relationship. Don't know if you relate to this too because you don't live with your mom or by your mom. Mhmm. But that feeling that feeling of distance, whether it's literal distance or like emotional distance, A lot of Capricorn moons, I feel like deal with that whether it's
Jacob:A % especially now I feel like my my relationship with my mom was definitely way better when I was a child. I was very like, okay, tell me who I am. I feel like now as ever since I started to like come more into myself and discover things about myself outside of like my mom and stuff, I definitely feel like there's been a strain in our relationship and just like we talk, she's like, hey, how are you doing? Blah, blah, but you can just tell there's a level of like detachment. There's no like a lack of connection.
Jacob:Compared to like my other siblings and stuff, especially ever since I came out, like especially when I came out to her. Ever since then, it just shifted like completely because of how she is like, like she's religious. As before I came out, so I was like, she's not gonna accept me anyway. So it's almost like I started to like mourn her. Like, I already know like our relationship is gonna be dead once I come out.
Jacob:So it's almost that definitely severed like the stronger connection we had.
Serena:I feel like that was that's probably a big thing because, okay, when I first started being friends with Jacob, he was not out to his family.
Jacob:I was not out to anyone and I just and I just like moved to America too from Nigeria and Yeah. That was a whole thing.
Serena:So I know that took a lot for you. I remember when he told me that he came out to his mom, I was like, what? For the longest time he said that he wouldn't until he became famous. You're like, I'm gonna have to tell my mom I
Jacob:was like, I'm not gonna hide it once I was famous, like, she's gonna find In
Serena:the magazines. I was like, I was like, no. There's no way. Like, but I understood because I mean, I was also tell my dad Mhmm. For I was in like a whole relationship for almost a year with a woman before I even told my dad.
Serena:They've explained that process of like what brought you to that point, your your mom's reaction. Do you feel like that your sexual identity or you becoming your own person because you were because in childhood, you were kind of a little bit lost. So maybe that's why you had a better relationship with your mom. But now that your own your own person, you being your own person doesn't mesh well with who your mom is as her own person.
Jacob:A hundred a hundred percent. Because like when I was a child, I went to my mom for everything like, mom, who should I do this? What do think of that? What do think of that? I was like almost like living life through her, at the same time, I had a lot of like time away from my mom when I was younger too because she was always traveling for work and I was also in boarding school.
Jacob:So that's a whole different story.
Serena:This is like even of a deeper meeting because you're from Nigeria Mhmm. And your mom still lives there,
Jacob:right? And over there it's legal. It is not accepted like at all at all.
Serena:So this was like a huge, huge, huge thing.
Jacob:Yeah. To be honest, my sister just told me about a dream she had because my whole family were very like spiritual, spiritually gifted in the sense of like dreams. We get messages through dreams a lot. My sister told me about a dream she had that like my mom came to visit us in Nigeria, in America. And I was going out, it looks like it looked like I was going to like a gay club in the dream apparently and the stuff.
Jacob:But when I heard my mom downstairs, I raced to hide in a suitcase and I zipped myself up in that suitcase. And I don't know that dream just hit me so hard. And it was crazy because before she even told me about that dream, I just like suddenly felt the urge like, I should just tell her instead of like waiting and just rip the band aid off because especially because the relationship was taking like a very big hit. I was building like a lot of resentment towards I don't wanna talk to her. I'm like, yeah, I don't care.
Jacob:I'm just gonna be by myself. Like I don't need like I don't need her and stuff like that because I was like, you're not gonna accept me and this is not a part like I was born this way I didn't choose it. I told my sister, you know what, I'm gonna come out to mom. Can you like stay with me and all that? This is it.
Jacob:This is the day. So at first I was like, mom, I have to tell you something blah blah blah. It's very important. But before I call you, I want you to watch this video and it's literally it was just like a short YouTube clip of like an African guy coming out to his parents and then being like accepting of it. I remember after I sent the video she was like what is this about?
Jacob:What is going on? Then I was like, then I called her. My sister was right next to me. Even my sister, she was shaking. She was like and she was holding my hands so tight.
Jacob:She was so scared. She was like, mom, there's something I have to tell you. I just couldn't say it. I couldn't say it. So, like, I tell my sister, she she understood.
Jacob:Like, told her that, like, I felt this way since I was just showing blah blah blah. I feel like she was getting a
Serena:child, like, years old. Like
Jacob:Facts. I knew when I was very young. Always felt this way. Blah blah blah. She's like, what is it?
Jacob:What is it? So my sister just like said like, she likes guys. She was like, yeah. My mom was like, what? What did you just say?
Jacob:I was like, yeah. And she just immediately started crying. She was like, who lured you into this? Who made you this way? Someone lured you into this?
Jacob:Someone like made me gay? I'm like, no.
Serena:Yeah. But I obviously Like did you move to America and you're Exactly.
Jacob:So that's what she was saying to like, it's America blah blah blah. I probably had the most gay sex in Nigeria.
Serena:Oh. Exactly. Exactly. And I'm like, see? Piping.
Jacob:Bye. I know. There are so many, but because it's so shamed mainly because of religious reasons. Maybe this was TMI and my brother's like mom I was in I was with guys in Nigeria and like that doesn't mean anything. Yeah.
Jacob:So she was like someone lured you into this. So she was like okay I'll call you back and just cut the call. She went through a whole thing. Then like after that, I sent her a long message that like, I'm still the same person you gave birth to, like nothing is different about me. Yeah.
Jacob:This is just I've always like I've always felt this way and like moving to America, it was just like, I'd rather be dead than not be myself. That a life lived in a lie is not a life worth living. I said that
Serena:to A %.
Jacob:Yeah. And like I feel like that's when she started to like, she's still she's still battling through like accepting it till now.
Serena:Those strong words, I feel like she needed to hear that.
Jacob:For sure. So that was the whole thing. So you're calling all my siblings because all my siblings are like significantly older than me. My brother's 39, my other brother's 41, and my sister is 36. Especially my brother.
Jacob:She called my two brothers like, if you're in his life and showed him what a man was, like, if you're a good masculine figure, he wouldn't be this way and trying to blame him on them, like, obviously but no judgment against my mom because like, also like, she's not exposed to these things, so I understand. I can't be like how can you say that about me? You're not my mother. Like first of all she gay people don't exist. Yeah.
Jacob:And where I'm from and they're highly indoctrinated to religion and stuff like that because I literally remember when I was like seven years old in church, seven years old, and they were playing a video of like about rapture and they were talking about like this is what happens to like gay people, prostitutes, people who have piercings and there was literally a video of people getting their eyeballs like plucked out, people getting slaughtered in church. Yeah. Another religious wound I have.
Serena:What's the word grooming? Like is that grooming? Force feeding these the consequences of what it would be if you're gay in this country from an early on. Mhmm. So, know, kind of forcing people to think that it's wrong or to not be gay.
Serena:But at the end of the day, it really isn't.
Jacob:Like You're
Serena:wise, you're born this way. Exactly.
Jacob:Have this huge, I'm not gonna lie, resentment towards religion because like, it just made me like hate myself and the religion and the religion, like Christianity that was there was all about like fearing God, not living your life like you live your life for God. You're not your own human being. You're just a servant of God and you should fear him or you're gonna burn in hell. Just even as a child, I felt like I was just forced into it. It never resonated with me deeply.
Jacob:And when I moved to America, my switch away from my moving away from it was so easy. Mhmm. That's how you knew like it wasn't for me. But she's yeah. So now she's still going through like accepting it.
Jacob:I don't think don't see her getting comfortable with it like for a while, but like I've kinda like accepted it. And it's good. I'm blessed to have like, especially my sister, my sister-in-law, like my family who like accept me and understand me. Yeah. So like I'm definitely very glad to have that because you know what's crazy?
Jacob:The first person I ever came out to was you and Naomi from In Texas Birdhouse. First person people ever I remember like because I didn't know. Just felt like it would be okay. I just felt like I just felt safe with you guys.
Serena:I feel like I already I I knew. I knew, baby.
Jacob:We knew you.
Serena:If I didn't know and I or if I meet someone and I know I I will never force like a coming out story of
Jacob:Yeah. For sure.
Serena:Anyone like just based off like my own personal experience too. I think that's everyone that's someone else's journey. Something that I'm learning as well is you can't force someone's reaction towards you like
Jacob:A %. You can't force them like, nah, you're meant to be upset. Like Yeah. Yeah.
Serena:Because especially if it's someone that is a family member or friend, someone that you care about, I'll say family member, an older family member because I feel like if you're around our age, oh no, you should be accepting of that.
Jacob:Faz, there's no excuse. Why are you homophobic when you're 17? No. No.
Serena:It's no excuse.
Jacob:And you know what's crazy?
Serena:That's
Jacob:the thing. That's why like men who are like heavily homophobic, it's a huge like flat because I remember in high school, I definitely was. I definitely was homophobic like, ill, like, that's fucking gay and stuff like that. They're gonna burn in hell and all that like, oh my god, I can't believe they're gay guys that exist, blah blah blah. And also by there are also guys who are very aggressive about it.
Jacob:Like, nah, don't touch me that way. Blah blah. I've hooked up with like the most homophobic people ever. Mhmm. That's the thing.
Jacob:They say the craziest shit. They're the most masculine people ever and yeah.
Serena:A hundred percent.
Jacob:That's crazy. Like, you know you hooked up with this person and you can just see them in public like, gay people blah blah blah. It's just and I was in the same boat.
Serena:Like Every time I see someone who's like very out there homophobic, that internalized homophobia is actually crazy. Like, it's actually giving it away that you're gay to me. Like, much you hate gays?
Jacob:Like why do you
Serena:crazy mentality.
Jacob:Like literally getting nervous around me. Especially like my my job right now, you can just tell they're not comfortable around me. I'm and it's so weird coming from New York because no one gives a fuck. But my ways to work was in New York. It was like Hard Rock in New York.
Serena:Restaurant.
Jacob:Restaurant. I was a server. And where I work now is Longhorn in Georgia. I had like
Serena:20 plus In the country. In the countryside.
Jacob:I can't wait to leave.
Serena:Population of 200? No,
Jacob:but you can't. It's almost like, why why do gay people make you so nervous? Because the straight guys I know only bad bitches make them nervous. Like Well,
Serena:it could be also like
Jacob:But I also get like
Serena:They're not around it.
Jacob:Yeah. I get that. Like, they're not around it also and also
Serena:media. We have religion. But I feel like social media, like, these days, are you not exposed to a lot? Like, maybe our TikTok feed is just gay or something because
Jacob:No. I feel like in America, it's impossible to not no. People are just choose to hold, like, negative biases towards people who are different from them, which is Yeah. Very, like, unfair and just not nice.
Serena:Mhmm. Everyone has their own different lens that they look at based off of the environment that they grew up in, I guess. But it definitely is different, like, going from New York and he's talking like, man high in New York, like, one
Jacob:of the most
Serena:gayest fucking cities in the country. So now you're going to, like, you see horse and buggies in the road. Like, it's, like, two different it's completely two different areas. I told them I was like
Jacob:Horse and buggies.
Serena:Because, like, get out of there, man. Get out of there. But it is forty five minutes outside of Atlanta.
Jacob:Yeah. So, like, I know Atlanta is a completely different energy. Yeah. From where I'm at right now. So, but I'm working towards getting a better job now and I'm getting the fuck out of there.
Jacob:Don't, but the only connection I have there is that like my family, because when because I'm saying like my brother Yeah.
Serena:That's why he's out there.
Jacob:Mhmm. And his kids. I mean, it's a very big thing for me. So I love that. Just like be around them and like take care of the kids and like watch them
Serena:grow up and stuff. Like we were talking about last night, we went to a Cava bar last night, we were talking to a girl that we met at the bar. Type of memories that you're instilling on your nieces, that's truly memorable. I think it's something that's missing in this country.
Jacob:A sister's community. Yeah. Like this country, I
Serena:feel like It's a village.
Jacob:Yeah. Like I feel like social media especially, like this narrative of like, oh, you need to make it by yourself, independent. Like, you need to like living on your own when you're 18.
Serena:Hyper independent. That we've
Jacob:lost a sense of community because that's what
Serena:it takes. Your family on your own. Like I've
Jacob:also Yeah. Thing
Serena:I loved about how I grew up in my early childhood is it really did take a village. Like I was around all like my uncles, my grandparents, my grandparents, my grandmother watched me like almost every single day. Yeah. Bronx. And then, like, I was around just all my cousins, my uncle, my cousin lived with us.
Serena:Like, you know, like they were just always around. It did end at a certain time period in my life. It definitely I loved that.
Jacob:You grew up around like so much love. I also understand like, I'm blessed to have that because I understand that not everyone has that. Some people do not have like a healthy like home and like people around them. So they have to get away from it. That I also understand.
Serena:Very true. But even your friends too, like my mom didn't have any sisters, she had all brothers. Her best friends were like her sisters. My godmother is her best, one of her best friends and they were just, we were just all there for each other. My godmother picking me up from school.
Serena:And like, you know, just like it really does take a village. And even if you don't have that family dynamic, if you have best friends, I think it's super important. And I want this for my friends when I'm older too, that when you grow up and you have your own families, that why do you feel like you need to do everything on your own? Like, it's okay to to raise these kids together. Pluto and Aquarius, I think that's gonna be a very
Jacob:big Mhmm. Communities. People are gonna be yearning for a sense of community.
Serena:Community friends. I'm telling you right now, friends are buying gonna be buying a lot. Like, it's power to the people, power to the community. We're giving community power again, supporting small businesses and community, like, local
Jacob:And fuck the government and, like, large corporations that just for
Serena:For real though.
Jacob:Influencers were niche. So like represent like a niche group of people.
Serena:Predictions for Pluto and Aquarius over the next eighteen, nineteen years that I feel like, you know, we saw Pluto and a Capricorn That was the influencer era praising the rich. We were helping the rich get richer.
Jacob:Yeah. Like power to influencers. Yeah, power to those with high, like higher status,
Serena:High status and everyone wanted it. Right? Mhmm. I I I wanna look like that. I want that car.
Serena:I want I want those fits. I wanna be an influencer. I wanna be famous. I wanna be rich and famous. I just feel like, especially like the pop off of social media, all everyone cared about was getting rich and famous.
Serena:We're gonna start seeing that turn around now. What you said, micro influencers, people I think I don't think the influencer era is dead. Shift. It's gonna shift. It's gonna be more niche.
Serena:So there's gonna be a lot of people are gonna be branding themselves. I'm always telling people, you need to get on social media. You need to brand yourself. Mhmm. Make there so much money to be made on social media.
Serena:Why not fucking try? I always tell him he's barely on social media. He has no Instagram. You have TikTok though.
Jacob:I do.
Serena:Twitter. He was tweeting at the strip club. The
Jacob:is like an
Serena:Italian strip club who's tweeting
Jacob:Yo.
Serena:His inner thoughts.
Jacob:That's why that's yeah. My Twitter, no one follows it, but it's literally like my diary. I just yeah. It's so convenient because I'm like, one day, like, when I'm, like, further in a completely different like place, I'm gonna be looking back at this or someone might look
Serena:at my two separate I agree.
Jacob:Yeah. Random, this might be off topic but before you even got into like astrology, what were you like into? Like what how did you like get into astrology?
Serena:My whole life I was I was intrigued by astrology. Like I used to love like the magazines. Like when I I used to love magazines when I was a kid.
Jacob:Mhmm.
Serena:And I always used to read like my my horoscope little thing. I was the little girl with the mood rings with the fortune teller games. Oh, I was born for this. Mhmm. I love twitches.
Serena:I love Wizards of Revelly Place. I love Halloween Town.
Jacob:Wizards of Revelly Place greatest show ever.
Serena:You know, I was I was born to be this type of person. This all it always intrigued me. I like felt always felt like a spiritual connection to my spirit guides and my ancestors. Mhmm. So I was following a girl, shout out her, a a a d e, I think is her Twitter username.
Serena:She tweeted something that said, you know, by looking at your birth chart, you can see what the sex of your first child will be. And I was like, this was 2017.
Jacob:Mhmm.
Serena:And I was like, oh, I wanna see like, you know, I always wanted to be mom. I was like, I wanna see like if I'm gonna have a boy or a girl first. So I put in my information in like astro.com or something or cafe astrology. And I just started reading the descriptions of everything. And I was hooked.
Serena:And that right there, that's how I went to astrology. Was literally hooked. And I was in school for psychology at the time too. Was in college for I was studying psychology. So I think I just I also I've always been intrigued by human behavior, studying human behavior.
Serena:I've been always like an observant person I feel like. Mhmm. I just love the ability of how it ties into human behavior and understanding people. They say people who like astrology were very misunderstood growing up. So, yeah, it made me feel understood.
Serena:I felt I fell in love with it. Was like, wow, like Capricorn moon. Because obviously, everyone knows like their sun signs. But here and there, sensitive crybaby, emotional cancer. I'm like, yeah, I guess.
Serena:But then I read Capricorn moon and Scorpio rising and I was like, wow. That shit's on point. And I was hooked and I and I just like, nonstop was researching it for years and years and years.
Jacob:I really see that a lot.
Serena:Astrology is an onion. Once you peel those layers, and then you get addicted. Like, we should definitely wrap it up a tad bit. But I do want to end with asking like, what is there anything you're currently working on? What are your future goals?
Serena:I know you have dreams of, you know, being in the limelight or being successful. That is that's what we're gonna say. Every time we end conversations, we're always like, oh, when we're successful. Like, I truly feel in my gut, we're both gonna make it really big. We're both gonna be really successful.
Serena:And we always talk about how we're gonna look back on these past times and kind of like, laugh and reminisce because I feel in my gut. And even when I look at his birth chart too, I'm like, know that you're gonna be successful and you're destined to make money.
Jacob:First of all, I'm currently working on getting a way better job from serving. Before the end of the year, I should definitely be getting something that way better, more stable and pays more. But like, the end goal is to be in the film industry as like a film director, filmmaker period. I wanna like create my own film. So many ideas and like summaries like plots and like scripts that haven't finished, bring my ideas to I want to create like films and like network and meet other like minded people, creators who just want who just want to work together and bring stuff to life.
Jacob:That's like my goal. I can dedicate my whole life to that. Like, that's just something that I dream about for sure. And the drama is also gonna be like fantasy because that's all I watch right now. Take me away from Earth.
Jacob:Yeah. I I love to escape this one as much as possible. So like, I just wanna create that for other people like Adventure Time, SpongeBob, examples of like comfort shows for me. Arcane. I also like anime too, but like an example, like, everything everywhere all at once.
Jacob:That's one of like my favorite movies ever. It was so healing for me and shifted my perspective. It had me thinking like weeks after I left the cinema and the more recent one being Sinners that I just saw, oh my god. That's like, I I'm like, that's why I want I wanna create stuff like this that makes people feel this way, that impacts people this way. Mhmm.
Jacob:Wow. Yeah. I can't wait.
Serena:I literally see you doing that. I feel it in my gut. I feel
Jacob:it in
Serena:my soul and just know that that's gonna be something that you end up doing. But right now you're in the you're in the hustle mode
Jacob:of like Yeah.
Serena:I also get I don't have Instagram, but if they want to catch you on
Jacob:TikTok, you just search for d a d e s u l a I m a n, dude, suaiman. Beautiful.
Serena:Yeah. We gotta catch you there and I gotta come into you and even make another Instagram again or something.
Jacob:I might because everyone's been telling me like, you're not Instagram, what? I'm like, yeah, I was but Instagram was just so toxic for me.
Serena:Oh, listen. Sometimes you gotta go through the phases of not having it. Think it's healthy.
Jacob:For sure.
Serena:Especially if you feel like it was getting toxic and you were going through like an unhealthy connection with it or bringing out like some things that you needed to heal within yourself. Like, you know, social media at the end the day, we don't need it. Yeah. I think everyone's like, you don't have it? You know what?
Serena:Why?
Jacob:But it does help, especially like profession. It depends on it depends on your
Serena:I want it for you for the type of industry that you want.
Jacob:Exactly. It makes sense. It makes sense. Yeah. Exactly.
Jacob:For both of us. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I like TikTok. I do plan on being like more active and posting more no matter how cringe, dumb, or whatever it is.
Jacob:Just the post.
Serena:Whatever. That's what I say.
Jacob:Like, gives a fuck, Whatever.
Serena:I'm a big believer in that. Glad you are on this podcast for me.
Jacob:Me too.
Serena:So you know, you definitely inspire me. So that's why another reason I wanted you on this podcast and I feel like you will have an inspiring story as well. I feel like a lot of people can connect with you. So yeah, I mean, I hope it reaches like the audience that it does. Yeah.
Serena:And definitely follow me on all my socials from Instagram. Well, only like Instagram and TikTok. I really have tea from the galaxy is that with angel fish astro. So I also have my angel fish astro Instagram and TikTok as well. I dive more into, you know, the specifics of what's happening astrologically.
Serena:But yeah. Thank you, guys.
Jacob:So nice. Thank you for watching. Bye.