Clydesdale Media Podcast

We meet 55-59 Year Old Athlete Tammi Saunders as she heads to her first ever CrossFit Games.

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what is going on everybody

welcome to the clydesdale

media podcast where this is

attempt two to go live um

and this one seems to have

worked well we are

continuing our series on

highlighting the athletes

of the 2024 legends masters

crossfit games and I'm so

pumped so honored to have

with me tammy saunders

tammy how's it going

It is going really good.

Thank you.

I'm honored to be here.

This is super cool.

Well,

we're honored to have you because and

what I'm learning is the

Masters community is just super cool.

We're all right.

We're a pretty cool bunch of

guys and girls.

Yeah, for sure.

It's been fun getting to know everybody.

Because to be honest,

we've all lived lives longer, right,

than the elite division.

We've been through things.

We have cool careers.

And we're doing all this

with balance and all that through life.

And it creates a better story.

For sure.

I agree.

So let's get your story.

So did you have an athletic

background growing up?

Not really.

I did gymnastics from maybe

second grade to like middle school.

But it's an expensive sport.

And I come from not a family

with the means.

So by eighth grade,

when it started to get like

super competitive,

and it was more like club type stuff,

I wasn't able to continue.

But I always did like,

I like tumbling and stuff like that.

But that was about it.

Not athletic.

I found a testimonial that

you wrote when you were at one gym.

I don't think it's where you are now.

Where you talked about

putting together a

slideshow for your brother's wedding.

Yeah.

And you went through old pictures.

Yeah.

And so can you,

you didn't have the big

athletic background and

then you got yourself in a

position that probably

isn't where you wanted to be.

And what was it that shook

you out of that?

Gosh, you know what?

I think about this often.

What was it about that period in time?

What was it that made me

make that step into going

into a CrossFit gym?

My brother had started going

and was talking about it.

And I think really I was at

a place in my life where I

was just really feeling stuck.

I was feeling unmotivated, unfulfilled.

I was about 40, a little over 40, 41,

42 years old.

And I was like,

this can't be all there is to life.

Um,

my mom then passed away and then it

just really kind of shook

some things in me where I was like, uh,

this life I'm living can not,

this can't be it.

Like there has to be something more.

And so my brother had been

asking me to go to a

CrossFit gym and it was very culty to me.

And I was like, I don't know what, like,

it's just weird.

And we'd go on vacation and

he'd go do a drop-in and I

didn't know what that meant.

And it was just very strange to me.

But my daughter wanted to go.

So I went with her.

We went to a, like a foundations class,

a trial.

And

I don't know what it was.

But when I walked in,

there was there was

something about this group

of people there was I don't

know what it was,

I can't put my finger on it.

But whatever they had,

I just knew in that moment, I was like,

I want that.

And I'm going to keep coming

back to this place till I have that.

And it, it wasn't fitness, it was this

this sense of joy.

They looked like they had purpose.

They looked happy.

They looked fun.

They looked like they had,

they had community.

They had all the things that

were lacking that was lacking in my life.

And I don't know,

it was like from that first workout,

I was like, this is it.

So in this testimonial,

you talk about having smoked,

you talk about having an eating disorder,

but most importantly, you talk about,

there was a voice in your

head that you had to attack.

Yeah.

So yes, all of those things are true.

I think that I

There was a story that I

told myself that like I

didn't belong or I couldn't

do it or I wasn't good

enough or there was this

whole narrative that I had in my head.

And I don't know what it was,

but I was just like,

we're going to go for it.

We're going to see like how

far we can take this.

And truly, when I started,

I just wanted to survive the class.

Like, let's be honest,

I had no aspirations.

I am the most unlikely

CrossFit head coach or games athlete.

It's still weird to say that

out of my mouth that I'm a games athlete.

But I really just wanted to

survive a workout.

And the early ones, I'm not I mean,

I cried every time I left the gym,

because it was just so hard.

And I didn't do hard things.

I would walk up to that line

of hard and I would quit.

I was I was afraid I had

given up on myself didn't know.

I didn't know how to get

myself to do the things I wanted to do.

If any of that makes sense.

Totally.

I think the one thing that

almost everybody can relate

to is the voice in your head.

And it doesn't matter who you are.

Everybody has one.

And it just comes up in

different situations.

And you could be the most

elite athlete in the world.

And at a critical moment in

a game or a competition,

that voice comes up and you

have to attack it.

Am I going to give in or am

I going to overcome?

Whether you're starting your

journey or at the end of your journey,

everybody faces those voices.

Right.

So I think it's the most

relatable story that anybody could tell.

Yeah,

there are truly days where I look at

myself and I try to step

back from myself and look

at myself from someone

else's point of view.

Because when I look at myself,

I can't really remember

that person that I used to be.

I do, but it seems so surreal.

It's like, who is that?

I can't relate to her anymore.

Uh,

she was a girl who smoked two packs of

cigarettes a day.

She had a raging eating disorder.

She didn't know how to like

functioning was hard for me

on the outside.

I looked like I had it all together,

but on the inside, it was like,

there was anxiety.

There was like worse issues.

There were just a lot of stuff.

um and so what I realized is

the further I went in my

crossfit journey of just

like showing up for myself

doing the hard thing

listening to some really

great people that I

surrounded myself that they

the it just started it

didn't get easier but it

became more like that was

just what I did I just got

really used to doing the

hard thing and now I do the

hard thing all the time

because that's what I make myself do

I think the analogy I use

most in doing anything now

is you got to put in the reps, right?

Whether I'm doing a podcast,

whether I'm doing CrossFit,

whether you have to put in

the reps so that it becomes

just what you do.

Yeah.

I think that it was just

really easy for me to quit

if something got a little bit hard.

I didn't understand that

what I was actually looking

for was on the other side of that heart.

The change that I wanted to see in my life,

the things that I wanted to

come to fruition, they all really,

I was my own roadblock.

They were there.

They weren't not for me.

I could have them if I just

leaned in a little bit to

that really uncomfortable space.

And I think that

We get as people to this

uncomfortable space and

it's hard to make yourself lean into it,

right?

And be like, I know,

but I know on the other

side is everything that

I've been asking for is all

the things that are going

to make my life feel better

or more complete or give me

purpose or give me direction, right?

So does that overcoming the

hard thing become addictive?

Because now not only did you

get yourself back on track

and start CrossFit,

but now you coach CrossFit.

I do.

You live CrossFit.

You are a CrossFit Games athlete.

Is it just leaning into more

and more hard things

because of what you do now?

I think so.

I think I tell my members here, so I work,

this is kind of a sideway.

I don't know if this is a

good time to talk about it,

but I work in a gym that is,

it's a CrossFit affiliate

and we serve only people

who are in recovery.

So to be here,

you can have a free membership,

but you have to identify as

someone with a substance

use disorder and you have

to have 48 hours of sobriety.

And then it's a free CrossFit class.

I think that

having to do the hard thing

and lead people like I have

to kind of lead from the front, right?

Like they're not going to

believe me and they're not

going to do what I say is

good for them if I'm

leading this crazy lifestyle.

So I think that it,

it has kind of become my life.

I don't think that it gets easier,

but I think that it just, I know that it,

I know that that's where the work is,

right?

Like I have to do that if I

want something.

So it does kind of just

become how I do life now.

Like,

I don't know that I even think about it.

I think I get up and I just

do hard stuff because I

don't know what else to do.

Did you suffer?

Yeah, so everybody,

all of our coaches in our

gym are in recovery.

So some of them identify as

alcoholics or addicts.

Some of them choose not to

use those words.

They carry a really big stigma.

Some simply say, yes,

I identify as someone with

a substance use disorder.

So for myself,

I wasn't an everyday drinker,

but I would drink to excess.

So anytime I drank,

like I thought about this a lot,

anytime I've ever drank,

it's always been to like blackout.

It's always been to like some really bad,

not good decision.

I come from a family of

addiction and alcoholism.

And so

It's while it's very normal to me,

I'm realizing it's not

really normal to everybody else.

So things that I just were like,

that's just how my family is.

I didn't know that everybody

didn't live like that.

So, yeah, so yeah.

All of our coaches are in

recovery and we actually

develop them from within.

They have to be members for

three to six months and

then they show promise and

then we work with them and

we help them find a job and

they work for us or they

work in another place.

But yeah.

Midlife CrossFit journey.

That's one of my athletes.

Hi, Ed.

It's so wild like how

how small this CrossFit community is,

but yet it's big, right?

You know,

I talked to Carly Matthews like

two weeks ago.

She runs a recovery program

out of her gym.

Oh, really?

You know, and then here in Ohio,

we have Dale.

Yeah, Dale Kings.

Yeah.

Who's running a recovery program, right?

Yeah.

Do you ever like reach out

to other programs and share ideas?

Yeah, so I actually, I live in Phoenix,

and Dale last year was in Scottsdale.

I don't know if he comes here often,

but he was here.

There's a woman who was on our staff.

She is a professor in social work,

and she actually helped

write the grants that got

our gym our initial funding.

And she was in conversations with Dale,

seeing about like researchy

kind of data-y stuff.

And she's like, hey,

I'm going to this breakfast

with Dale King.

You have to come with me.

And I was like, okay.

So I got to sit down with him,

which was really cool.

And just talk about the program he runs,

the program we run, like what works,

what doesn't work, what have they found.

It's super weird.

I was in Hawaii at the Mana

Games that the NorCal

Classic put on this year.

And three of the women who podiumed, um,

in a couple of different age groups,

we were chatting and we were,

we were like, Hey, I'm, I'm in,

I'm sober.

And I don't even know how

the conversation came up.

It wasn't like, hi, I'm Tammy.

I'm sober.

But in our conversations,

we had realized that we all

are sober and we like live

a sober lifestyle,

which it was just crazy.

Like it's a huge community,

but it's a really small community.

So yeah, I think that, um,

For our members here,

and I think for myself,

like learning that I'm not

alone and learning that

there's more to me than

like whatever labels I put

on myself or that like, oh, my people,

they're amazing.

Daniel Roberts says,

that's our head coach.

That's what he calls me.

I have many, many nicknames.

But yeah, I think that that.

That sense of community.

I think that that's what

makes like programs like

12-step programs or AA or

Alcoholics Anonymous or NA,

Narcotics Anonymous work is

that feeling of I'm not alone.

And so I think it's very

similar to the CrossFit community.

We're going through all this

hard stuff together.

Like, right, I've been there,

I've done it.

When I first started CrossFit, in fact,

one of the girls had smoked

and I had walked into the

gym one day and she was

doing the burpees.

And I'm like,

why are you doing extra burpees?

Who does that?

And she was doing a burpee

for every day she hadn't

smoked for a year.

So she did 365 burpees and I was like,

wow, if I,

cause I still smoked when I

started CrossFit and I was like, wow,

if I could quit smoking,

I'm going to do that.

And so now here, 12 years later, um,

this year I dedicated the whole year.

I'm on day,

I think three 26 of doing a

hundred burpees every day

just to celebrate what my

body can do now.

And then not forget where I came from.

That's amazing.

And I'm a little off, a little,

a little off, but.

So how many,

how many classes do you run a day?

So we have three classes in

the morning that are just

regular CrossFit classes.

We have two in the afternoon.

So we run five CrossFit classes a day.

And then in the middle of the day,

we have billable classes.

So a sober living house or a

residential treatment

facility or some

organization will bring their folks here.

And we're actually part of

their treatment plan.

So we are on somebody's treatment plan.

Because we are in recovery, we're also,

we're peer support specialists.

So we can actually bill for

those classes under a

behavioral health code.

So CrossFit is being prescribed.

It's like part of someone's

treatment plan.

They come here.

Actually, we're doing peer support.

CrossFit is the vehicle

we're using to do peer support.

So yeah, so we run two of those a day.

And then we run like

sandwich or bookend the

regular CrossFit classes.

very very cool it's crazy I

if I could not believe when

I came here I worked um

long before I came here

when I first started

crossfit in my old gym back

in iowa I remember um

People would,

I'd been there for a long time.

So people, they knew my story.

They knew I had a journey.

I lost weight.

I quit smoking, all of these things.

So they would just start

asking me for like, how do I do this?

And how do I get better at that?

My head coach and I decided like,

let's get your L1 and like,

let's see what we can do.

So I did, I started coaching there.

When I started coaching,

I worked for the school district.

I was actually a life coach

with at-risk kids.

Um,

cause I get at risk kids cause I was one.

Uh,

so it was like one of the best jobs I

ever had.

I got to sit around all day

and talk to kids about life and like,

how do you life and how do

you make better life choices?

Uh, and then I coached part-time.

So come here.

had a friend who lived in Arizona,

I wanted to change I had

never done any competitive

CrossFit except for the open.

Until I moved to Arizona four years ago.

I'd never done legend.

I'd not nothing.

I didn't even know any of

this stuff existed.

Like my goal was to get to

the online qualifiers.

That was like my big life goal.

So what flipped that switch?

I you know what I got here.

And so I left Iowa.

I have two grown kids.

They were both doing really well.

They were in their late 20s.

One lived in Colorado.

The other one was living in Florida.

And I have siblings there.

But I was like,

I don't really have

anything tying me here.

And I've never been anywhere

outside of the safety of Iowa.

So anyway, I came here.

I was working at a gym.

And someone said, have you ever...

heard of this Legends thing,

because it had been in

Arizona the year before I moved here.

And I was like, no,

I don't do any of that.

And they're like,

I think you should really try out for it.

You're really good.

I think you could make it.

And on a whim, I did, and I qualified.

And that was the first year

I qualified for the online

qualifiers as well.

You know when you just don't

know what exists until you

know it exists?

And then your eyes are like, oh, wow.

OK, maybe I could do this.

So I don't know.

I just kept trying.

Once you did that first one,

did it become that itch you

needed to scratch?

Um, yes,

but I probably wouldn't have

admitted it out loud.

Um, I don't know.

I felt like when I showed up there,

what's really weird is the

other day you had someone on the,

I think a gentleman

yesterday I was listening to,

and you were talking about how,

when you go to these competitions,

you really become friends

with these people.

You spend like four days with them.

You develop these friendships.

I never thought that I would

develop friendships,

but I still am very close

to women in my age group.

We, we have a group chat going on,

on Instagram.

We communicate with one another and,

And I,

I showed up there thinking I don't

belong here.

Like that imposter syndrome,

like they've made a grave

mistake and I am not going

to do well this weekend and

it's going to end really badly.

And it was a lot of learning, um,

And I actually had I had a heat win,

which was so surreal

because there's Annie and

Bill and Sean and they're

commentating and they're

commentating about me.

And I watched it back afterwards.

And they're like idols of mine.

Right.

They're people that I grew

up like come up in CrossFit

watching and then they're

commentating and they're saying my name.

And that was super cool.

You mean this guy?

Yes.

I had to come cheer on my bad ass.

Um, so fast forward, he's now my coach,

which is, it's, I can't even, I don't,

I don't know if anyone else

wakes up and is like,

how in the heck did I get here?

Like, how do I get to,

I get to live this life.

It's, it's pretty freaking cool.

So he was an idol of mine.

My quick,

quick and dirty Bill Grundler

story of meeting.

Oh, please.

Yes.

I want to hear it.

So I was a volunteer at the

2014 regionals in Cincinnati.

Okay.

And it was the first time

I'd ever volunteered for a

CrossFit competition.

So I had no clue what I was doing.

And I didn't really know.

I hadn't dove deep into who

all the players were, right?

Right.

So I'm just standing in line

with this guy that looks like Wolverine.

I love it.

getting my,

getting my rice and beans and chicken to,

to go sit down and eat and

having the greatest

conversation I like ever.

And then someone goes,

you know who that is?

And I was like, I really don't.

And, uh,

And they're like, that's Bill Grundler.

He's calling this whole thing.

And I was like, no way.

And then Bill just became

one of my favorite people ever in space.

I love that.

Like he was so down to earth.

I didn't even know he had

anything to do with what was going on.

I love it.

Another volunteer.

I love it.

That is so cool.

Yeah,

I have been working with Bill for the

last two years.

Like I said, when I moved to Arizona,

I did before that I did

classes in my gym.

I was I would always stay

and do extra stuff because

really my mind gets really

loud and it's just really good,

cheap mental health therapy for me.

But so I'd always do extra stuff,

but I never had like

one-on-one programming.

I just, I didn't like,

I never thought it was for me.

Like I thought that that was

this different set of people, but not,

I didn't have that.

I didn't think I had that skillset.

Like I wasn't on that level

where I would hire a coach.

It just didn't dawn on me that I would.

I moved to Arizona.

I started working at this

gym and my boss here, he's an athlete.

He's a master's athlete.

He's a very good athlete.

And we started doing some

workouts together and he was like,

you're going to the effing games.

And this was three years ago.

And I was like, what?

I thought he was just giving me like,

you know, pep talk was like, oh,

you're going to the games.

Every single day he saw me

when I came in the door to work, he said,

you're going to the games.

And

I'm going to the games.

It's crazy.

But he was like, you should get a coach.

You really should get

someone to give you some guidance.

I had a guy I was working with for a year.

It was great.

I learned a lot.

I wanted a little something different.

And I just randomly reached out to Bill.

And I was like, hey,

I don't know if you're taking any clients,

but

I'm interested in seeing if

you would do some

one-on-one stuff with me.

And I had seen him at

masters or no at the NorCal classic.

He was calling that one.

So I had like saw him a little bit.

Um,

and we were like Instagram friends or

whatever,

cause I probably Instagram stalked him.

Cause I'm just a weirdo.

And like,

so I see people that I think are

interesting and cool.

And I'm like,

I must find out more about them.

So anyway, um, but now he's, he's, um,

he's, he's my coach and he's, uh,

the keeper of all this crazy stuff.

so what kind of improvements

have you seen since hooking

up with bill um you know

before I started working

with him I asked one of his

former athletes about

working with him and he's

like you're gonna get

effing strong like you're

gonna get strong and I have

I've gotten a lot stronger

um I uh I think a lot of my

changes it have really been

in my ability to push myself

harder than I have,

because he would just give

me these like crazy, ridiculous workouts.

And I would be like,

he either thinks I'm a real BA,

or I can actually do this, or he's crazy.

And he's trying to kill me.

And I was never sure which

one of those things were true.

But I just in my head, I'm like, okay,

if he put it on there,

I must be able to do it.

And some days he would even like,

put the wrong weight or put

a weight like that would

like he would he would like

kind of like mess something up.

And I would try it one day I

did this whole workout with a vest on.

It was supposed to be a mile run.

like 75 wall ball or no a

hundred wall balls,

a hundred pushups and a

hundred something else.

Only the run was supposed to

be with a vest on,

but I did the whole thing with a vest on.

And I was like,

why would you have me do 20

pound wall balls with a 14 pound vest on?

What is wrong with you, sir?

And he's like, Oh shoot.

I didn't,

you weren't supposed to use the

vest for that, but you did it.

I was like, I did.

He goes, all right,

guess we know you can do it.

So yeah,

I think a lot of it is my mental game.

He,

He's really good at making

sure that I know that I can

do the things that I need to do.

And he's helped me work the

things that I have not

historically been good at

and maybe not become the best at them.

But where I can be like, all right,

this is not going to take

me out of anything like you can do this.

You just you have to like

just keep grinding through it.

So you mentioned early on in

your story that like your

brother was going to CrossFit,

your daughter was going to CrossFit.

Do they still CrossFit?

Yeah, so my brother is an L1.

His wife is an L2 and a

CrossFit kids coach.

My daughter is going to a

CrossFit gym in Colorado

and she is shadowing to do her L1.

My niece goes to CrossFit.

I haven't gotten my son to come yet.

He just kind of pats me on

the head and is like, oh, there, there,

old woman, you're so cute.

So his girlfriend has done

CrossFit and she's like, you know,

your mom's a really fit person, right?

And he's like, sure she is.

He still sees me as like his mom,

not like as this fit person, but yeah.

Are you going to be able to

bring anybody to Birmingham?

Yeah.

So my sister and brother are

coming and my daughter is coming.

And then I have these amazing,

crazy friends from Phoenix who,

Uh, some of them have done legends, uh,

and a couple of them, uh,

have volunteered with, uh,

Joe and Bob before.

Uh,

so I have about six or seven people who

are coming with like this little posse.

And I was like, God, that's a,

that's a lot of people.

Like I I'm not asking that's expensive.

I'm not asking anyone to come,

but they just show up for me.

That's pretty cool.

Yeah.

I'm, I'm,

I I'm living in gratitude for sure.

What are your expectations?

I knew you were going to ask

this because I listened to

all the other ones and you

asked everybody.

And so a couple of different things.

My goal this year,

and I had said to Bill at

the end of last year,

this before like the structural changes,

my goal was to make it to

semis because I had never done it.

I'd gone to

So first I want to say,

I asked this question of

everybody knowing that

nobody wants to answer this question.

I know.

Nobody wants to give me a

number and that's fine.

I want to hear how you get

out of and what you want to

tell me about the bigger goal.

Yeah.

That's why I asked this question.

Gotcha.

So my original goal was just

to get to semifinals

because to me that would have been a win.

I hadn't made it there before.

It was just a bonus that

they took 30 people.

I ended up in 17th, which I was like, okay,

it wasn't like I barely skated.

Like I had some really good,

I had a top three finish

and I had a not so good finish,

but it was, I was consistent enough.

I look at the games as like,

the cake, like I got my cake.

So anything else is just extra frosting.

Um, but for me,

I want to show up and

attack every workout the

way bill thinks I can.

I want to get that into my head.

I want to do the hard thing.

I want to make, um, I'd like top 10.

God, I don't want to say that,

but I would like that.

That would be, I would be happy with that.

Um,

But if it doesn't happen,

I'm not going to beat myself up.

I really want to celebrate

and showcase all the hard work I put in.

Because I have worked, like all of us have,

my butt off and have sacrificed.

And I have said no to a lot of things.

in order to say yes to this.

So I really wanna soak in the experience.

I have some friends who are

CrossFit athletes and I

would go to regionals back

when there were regionals

and I'd go be pit crew with them.

And it was super cool.

And I remember Street Horner,

I don't know if he is listening to this,

but his mom and I are very good friends.

And I was there when Street

made it to his first games.

And I remember him saying to me,

I saw him this summer and he's like,

just soak it all in.

Just enjoy it.

Be in the moment.

Don't worry about where you place.

Don't worry.

Like you do your best.

Do everything you did in training.

Do it as perfectly as you can do it.

Know that mistakes are going

to happen and just roll with the punches.

And so that's really my goal.

I just want to,

I want to make myself proud.

I want to walk away and be like, yeah,

that one kicked your butt,

but you really did good on that one.

That's kind of my thing.

Corey Leonard says, I love expert.

Right.

Right.

Only if it's cream cheese frosting.

Well, cream cheese frosting is the best.

So yes, I, I agree.

Um, so yeah, I think that, um, I think,

you know, I would like to, I don't,

I I'm really, for me this year,

it's the experience.

I'm in a place where I

didn't think I'd be able to go.

This year has been crazy.

I got my L three after my second try, um,

which is insane.

Uh,

that thing is so hard it's

so hard um and it I will

say that after I took them

never take it away from you

no and I remember it's so

crazy I took it the first

time and I walked out

feeling super confident

like I was like oh I think

I did really well and it

was a day after my birthday

and I was like almost like

a birthday birthday to you

and then I got my results and I was like

oh this is not happy

birthday to me and I

started to not tell anyone

and then I was like no this

is just some things that

happen your members need to

know that your members need

to know that you don't

always win that things

happen and how do you

recover from that what am I

gonna do am I gonna be sad

am I gonna cry am I gonna

like be oh poor me no I put

my head in a book well in a

computer and I just like

nerded out for like six

months and then I took it

again and I passed so that

happened I made it to the

games my kids are happy healthy

i have a great community

here so I'm just trying to

have fun but I'm super

competitive so I will try

to do some work for that

top 10 finish I'm looking

for it I am yes so we'll

see a lot of people don't

know this who've been

watching this series that

we've been but we're coming

to the end of it okay the

games are next week I know

like running out of time oh

Yes.

So the guy, the guy I put up,

Corey Leonard, who loves frosting.

Yes.

You,

the athletes to know what you mean to

him.

He is in the journey to make

the CrossFit games.

He's trying to set himself

up to get there.

Okay.

Every one of your stories,

it's inspiring him.

Oh, I'm going to cry to get there.

And he texted me that last night.

And, and so I just want to share that.

Like it, it's been awesome.

I've enjoyed this series so

much getting to know each

and every one of you,

but then to find out that, you know,

here's this guy in the chat

putting in the work every

day and then listening to

your stories and giving him

that little bit of push.

And then like, as he said,

and it lets me know I'm on

the right path.

Dude, you are so on the right path.

It's here's what I've

learned is that I had to

see someone who looked like

me or came from a place

like me or who had a

similar something like me

to doing it to let me know

it was possible.

And so I swear I not a lot.

I mean,

I had a slight gymnastics background,

so I can't stand stuff.

I love that.

That's like my jam.

But for for real, I lived a really,

really not healthy lifestyle.

And if

I swear if I can do it and

you just keep showing up

for yourself and every

decision I would make, I would say,

does this serve the life

I'm trying to create for myself?

And if it didn't, I had to say,

it's not for me.

And it's hard.

It's really hard.

And it's really lonely sometimes,

but Corey, you can do it.

I'll be your biggest cheerleader.

Is he going to be at the games?

Is he going to come and watch?

I don't think so.

Oh, Oh, I do think he's going to be.

So I know his next goal is

to go to Legends.

Oh, I can see you there, hopefully.

Yeah.

That would be super cool.

I know that's the next

checkbox on his list of

items to get knocked down on his plate.

So fingers crossed, praying hard.

I'm excited for him.

If that happens.

Yeah.

I want to say, I didn't even get, you know,

the workouts were announced today.

We didn't get to talk about that.

Yeah.

I'm not mad about them.

Yeah, but they were released.

Make sure you go out to IG

and check those out.

When I was on with James earlier today,

they announced them while

we were on the air.

So we did pull them up and

go over them if you want to

check them out.

I'm going to be in Birmingham.

We're going to be doing a

behind-the-scenes.

Ellie Hiller and myself will

be backstage in the crowds,

in the warm-up areas,

just capturing your

conversations with your competitors,

with your friends, with your coaches,

all of that kind of stuff,

and putting it into a

multiple-episode

documentary that will come

out after the games.

So cool.

That is so cool.

Thank you so much.

You guys are crushing it, crushing it.

so well thank you you're

welcome and I think

sometimes masters are are

like feel overlooked

sometimes and so you doing

things like this uh with

everything that's going on

in the landscape right now

I noticed I'm like no one's

really talking about that

there's still some games

left like there's still

some people yet to go so I

love that you guys are

doing this I think it's

fantastic with everything

that's happened we have to

find a way to move forward

And what better way than to

go watch the athletes that

demonstrate what the

original methodology taught us,

that we don't want to go

into older age in decrepitude.

You guys are flipping what

it means to be a certain age on its head.

Isn't it crazy?

It's wild.

My friends call me Benjamin Button.

They're like,

how are you aging in reverse?

I'm like, I don't know.

I just keep going to CrossFit.

So it's the perfect thing to celebrate.

Let's go back to our roots.

Let's look at the population

that are fighting age with

both hands and killing it

and celebrate that as a way

to move forward as a community.

I love that.

That sounds awesome.

So that's what we're doing.

We're going to go celebrate.

We're going to do wrap up

shows every night from there.

We're going to, you know,

do all the things we do.

And Corey,

just to legends is his first check marks,

then TFX.

Nice.

I'll be cheering for you, Corey.

And with that, Tammy, you're the best.

Oh, thank you so much.

This was a blast.

Thank you to everybody in

the chat for being here.

Yeah.

I can't wait to meet you in person.

Thank you to everybody in

the chat for making this a fun,

fun little episode and tune in next week,

next week, next one week from today.

Crazy.

I'm cheering for you, Tammy.

Oh, thank you so much.

With that, everybody, thank you so much.

We'll see you next time on

the Clydesdale Media Podcast.

Bye.