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I was born to kill it.
I was meant to win.
I am down and willing,
so I will find a way.
It took a minute,
now it didn't happen right away.
When it get hot in the kitchen,
you decide to stay.
That's how a winner's made.
What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
My name is Scott Switzer.
I'm the Clydesdale,
and we are highlighting the
athletes of the 2024
Legends Masters CrossFit Games.
And I have with me Jonathan Edel.
Jonathan, how are you doing?
I'm doing well, sir.
Thank you very much, Scott,
for doing this.
This is a lot of fun.
Yeah, yeah.
It's been fun for me.
Like, the backstories are so good.
Yeah, thanks for having me.
So you're in the 40 to
44-year-old division.
This is your first year in that division.
Do you have that mindset
like this is my baby year in,
so I got to go?
No,
because I've been going hard at this to
try to get into 35 to 39.
I just turned 40 in May,
so I'm pretty excited that
I get the opportunity to
kind of step right in onto
the big stage at 40 to 44.
Yeah, yeah.
it's amazing that the,
the amount of athletes in,
in the masters divisions.
Oh yeah.
Like you think it's going to
be a break when you go up
to that next age group, but man,
there's just as many good
athletes in that one is
there was in the one you just left.
Oh yeah.
They're still breathing fire.
They're still lifting heavy.
It's great.
It's a challenge.
A lot of fun.
Yeah.
We've,
we've interviewed a lot of the 40 to
44 year olds this week.
Um, and they're, they're,
they're ready to come, man.
Yeah.
I listened to a few so I can,
kind of get a bearing on how
my hopefully how my
interview would go my first
one so thanks a lot yeah
yeah yeah and this is like
I said it's been much fun
for me um the interview
part is that is so much fun
uh if I didn't if I had
someone to schedule like I
would I would do this all
day every day yeah um but
so how what is your
athletic background how did
you come up as a as an athlete
I guess for me it started in soccer.
I mean elementary school, middle school,
high school.
By the time I got 18 I
needed to get bigger so I
could play football.
So the football coach came
and told me to join the
powerlifting team to get bigger.
So I started in the gym when
I was 18 to get bigger for football.
Granted,
I got bigger relative to the school,
which was a small Christian school,
Calvary Christian Academy.
But I got to be the big guy
on the field there, and I played soccer.
So I got to be the punter
and got to play line at the school.
Yeah,
and then I just continued into college,
went to Williamson Trade School,
became a machinist,
and then I continued on the
soccer team there while I was in school.
So it just kind of all kept going.
That's what, 21, 22 years old?
Just kept staying in the gym,
wanted to get strong, wanted to get big.
So, man,
so many questions from just that
little bit.
So I did some powerlifting
before I got into CrossFit.
I found that it gives you a strength base,
but man,
it's hard when you first switch
over to CrossFit because
it's more technique based
on those Olympic lifts than
it is about your strength.
Did you find the same transition?
No,
because it all just kind of went to the
wayside.
What it gave me was like a dedication,
was like a training way.
It made me know what it
takes to be committed and
be dedicated to something
in order that...
to get stronger.
So it just kind of really
got me into a routine of I
really I'm trying to chase that.
So if I want to do that,
I have to not have so many
other distractions in my life.
So it really helped settle
me in when I was 18 years old, you know,
you just want to go hang
out with friends and be
everywhere all at once.
But I got to be in the gym and get strong.
I want to do that.
So I got to eat this and do
do this instead.
So
It's funny how, like,
when I started powerlifting,
it was just a bunch of guys.
That's where we went to hang out.
Yeah.
You know?
Take four hours in the gym to do 20 lifts.
A few lifts here and there.
Yeah.
So soccer's a great base, though, too,
because you're running, like, nonstop.
Pardon?
And so did that give you a
good engine coming into CrossFit?
So I found CrossFit in 2015.
So I graduated from college in 2005.
So I didn't find CrossFit
for another 10 years.
That journey took me through
motorcycle racing where I
was riding two-hour
endurance races on a dirt bike.
So I was training like three hours a day,
running three miles and
doing the old P90X on the TV.
I would do an hour of that
and then go run for an hour.
Like I was trying to get
myself as good in shape for that.
And if I would have had CrossFit, man,
I would have been able to
keep up with the 17,
16 year olds that were kicking my butt.
Cause I was already in my
late twenties and I had a
family and I have something
that I have to show up to
on Monday and not be broken.
Whereas they just don't
really need to worry about it.
That was tough.
Do you follow the sport,
like the elite athletes?
I do.
Do you follow Travis Mayer?
Travis Mayer, yeah.
I'm a fan.
Well,
he was a motorcycle racer as well
before he got into CrossFit.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I took that,
and when I saw 2015 that
Rich Froning and Matt
Fraser were out there
deadlifting and toes-to-bar,
and you can compete in exercising, I went,
really?
I like exercising.
I'm going to try to compete in exercising.
I like this.
So it kind of lit a fire
under me to get into the gym.
I mean,
I couldn't even squat 135 coming
off of not squatting.
Wow.
Yeah, it was terrible.
I was running so much that I
guess I just lost my
technique that I had in high school.
I was squatting 365 when I was 18.
Why can't I hit 135 for deep
enough squats?
You're telling me it's not
deep enough now.
But yeah, it took a lot.
to get back up to where we are now,
but it's been a journey.
It's been fun.
I think one of the best
things CrossFit does is to
give us that standard, right?
It's not just about making the lift.
It's about doing it the right way.
Yeah.
And if we all do it the same way,
then we all know we're on, on the plane.
That's the whole point.
So you, you went to,
you went to machinist
school or trade school and,
What machine do you operate?
I guess now I work for SEPTA,
which is the public
transportation in Philadelphia,
and I operate a wheel machine.
So anytime you see a train
that stops too hard or it's
raining outside and the
rails are wet and the car goes...
Well, it makes that big flat spot,
and then you hear it going flip-flop,
flip-flop, flip-flop down the track.
Well,
I use the machine that recuts the
wheel so that it's nice and smooth again.
I get to do that fun job.
So I grew up in Pennsylvania,
just on the western side
instead of the eastern side.
And my dad was a machinist.
I am.
Yeah.
So he was a lathe operator,
but he could also do
millwork and stuff like that.
But his main thing was a lathe operator,
and he did that for 48 years.
Oh, yeah.
Once they get a machine shop,
guys don't leave.
That's right.
I run a lathe now,
and I did run a mill when I
worked as a machine in that shop.
And then you educated
yourself on motorcycle mechanics as well.
I went to the motorcycle
mechanic Institute actually in Phoenix,
Arizona.
And did you do that because
you were racing them or
because you wanted to work
on them yourselves or what?
Yeah.
I had an itch when I was 21.
I wanted to, I wanted to fix them.
I wanted to ride them.
I, I loved every,
I love everything about bikes.
So I figured why not go take the,
do this technical side and
go to school so I can fix them.
Um,
found out that working in
the shop you really can't
make any money doing that
to have a family so I went
back to machine shop where
they could pay me money and
then this that became the
hobby yeah so do you still
ride today I don't you
don't not yet I have to get
a bike again I had two kids
so yeah the bike went five
by when I needed a minivan
yeah yeah yeah I uh um that
was my main mode of transportation from
16 to 20.
Yeah, what did you have?
It was a Kawasaki Ninja-esque bike.
I don't think they even made
the Ninja at that point when I bought it.
Okay.
Like a 550 maybe.
I should spend 30 years.
But yeah, that's what I rode around.
I just got it on the cheap
and that was my mode of transportation.
It took, what,
a gallon of gas lasted me a week.
And gas is $1.50.
Yeah.
$3.
I don't even know if it
might not have been over a
buck at that point.
Yeah.
So I could go a long way on a dollar.
That's the way to go.
Absolutely.
So, yeah, that was a blast.
I would even ride it in the rain.
I was so dumb.
But, yeah.
And then I haven't ridden a
bike in probably 20 years.
Yeah.
That's all right.
You get back.
yeah we do we do the uh
see-do thing occasionally
um my wife finds that much
safer than a bike yeah so
so you find this crossfit
thing you jump into it how
long did it take you to
want to compete um I really
wanted to compete immediately honestly
I found a local competition
and I went to see where I
stacked up because I've
been exercising for forever.
So I'll just try to exercise racing.
I think I came in second at
that first competition and I was hooked.
I was hooked from there.
But it took about four years
and I eventually made it to
Guadalupe in 2019.
I was the 34 year old
turning 35 that year in the
intermediate division.
I just couldn't make it to
the Masters 35 plus.
But yeah,
finished middle of the pack there.
And that kind of was the
downside was I had pushed
so hard to make it there.
I didn't take the time to accrue the
time of mobility and flexibility.
And I was pushing so hard to
want to compete.
And if it's anything that I
could say to somebody like, Hey,
take your time.
Like when we do lat stretches with bands,
like it, it means something being 40.
Now it's, it's two,
two to five minutes on a bike,
warm up the knees and the
hips and make sure things
are moving along and see
how the overhead feels today.
Well, I know when I was, you know,
first off going at it,
I could just pick up a bar
and just overhead squat.
And this is great.
can't do that when you're
over 40 yeah and do you
think if you would have
done more mobility younger
it would pay off more now
or have you had have you
been able to catch up um
I've been able to uh get
more mobile with by taking
the time to do it I think
that if you just start with
it would you just take a
take a minute take five
minutes and like and and work that
a little bit of position
that you might feel is uncomfortable,
well,
that position might come back to
haunt you and not just
being uncomfortable,
but could actually become a problem.
Did you end up suffering
from an injury or something
at that point?
I just think my joints,
my shoulders were tired.
Everything was just...
kind of, I was worn out, worn down.
So I took two,
I took like two years back
and went to bodybuilding
with Dave Lipson and Muscle
Anarchy and he had just came out in 2020.
That was the fun year of 2020.
So I got to train in my gym
at home and get strong and
did bodybuilding just for
just to get that strength base.
Uh, we were,
we were in the year where the
CrossFitters,
they were hitting 365 in a clean.
And I was out there like I'm
pulling 225 and it's pretty heavy.
So I took it upon just to get strong.
I just want to get strong.
I want to get 400 pounds with back squat.
I want to get,
you know, four 55 deadlift.
I want to put these strength
numbers where they,
where they belong and try
to start stacking myself up, um,
against some, some really fit guys.
And then once that I took
that strength timeout,
then I went back blackout
CrossFit actually just opened then, um,
in 2021, they're going to correct me.
They're going to tell me I'm crazy.
Um, cause I went back to the gym and I was,
they just opened up and I went, Hey,
I like this CrossFit thing.
I jumped into the open.
And I was way behind.
Cardio was not my thing.
I was not a fan.
I said, I could suffer.
I'll be fine.
And now, man, I was beat in the open.
I was strong as could be, though.
Yeah,
Dave Lipson isn't known for his cardio.
Yeah, we didn't do well enough at all.
No, no.
Have you been able to reach
those goals of like a 440 deadlift,
400 back squat?
yeah I did I did I actually
got up to a 500 back squat
uh 565 deadlift I could
clean 365 I snatched 280.
like eventually I was able
to put the time I put the
time and the money and the
effort into it to to get
strong and it worked it's
really paid off it's if I
tried to do a 565 deadlift
my spine would be laying on
the ground yeah it's
it's it's taken a lot it's
taking a lot of work to get
there so I was able to get
a thruster in the open at
like 3 22 I think I came in
like fifth in the world wow
I've had some like some
really good accomplishments
that that it's been a lot
of fun it's been a good
journey it's been a lot of
fun yeah I was always that
guy who squatted way more
than he could deadlift yeah
oh yeah that's usually not
the case a lot of people
can pick a lot of things up
off the ground squatting
more than deadlift yeah
Um, so what is, uh,
you're going into this year.
What, what is your goal?
Um, honestly,
I am surprised I'm even in this game.
I did not have the CrossFit
games on my radar.
I chose the first four
monster games this year as to be my,
my thing, my ticket, my,
like my big event.
Um, so that, well,
then of course their
qualifier was before the open.
So I qualified for that,
and then we went into the Open,
and here I'm sitting in my
– I made semifinals,
and my whole team behind me
at Blackout is going,
you made semifinals.
You're going to the Games.
I don't think you know this.
You're going to the Games.
This is great.
And I said, I don't know.
There's some really fit guys
around the world, and, you know,
that's just – Not only did
you make semifinals,
you finished third in the
world after quarters.
Yeah,
that's kind of where everybody was
kind of losing their heads.
Wow, that's crazy.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, it's been a whirlwind, man.
It's been surreal.
I can't even,
I think I'm going to go get
on the stage with the
fittest 40-year-olds in the world.
It's going to be fun.
So you do semis.
You end up finishing 15th.
Yep.
So a little slide back,
but still well inside the top 40.
Yeah, well,
we had a little snafu there on
workout number three that
we kind of slid a little back,
but we're going to get that fixed.
We're going to get that figured out.
Okay, okay.
Remind me, workout three?
It was, I think it was like three, six,
nine front squats and ring muscle-ups.
Three, six, nine, twelve.
Okay.
And front squats at 185, so
bring muscle up so we can
all see they're not my jam.
I'm a big guy, not really a gymnastic guy.
Since then,
you've had a little extra time
going into the games
because CrossFit decided to
give you six years between
semis and the games.
Did that give you time to
work on the muscle up a little more?
Oh, yeah.
We've been putting in time
since last year to
to try to figure out where I'm catching,
what I'm doing,
why I'm not getting there.
But, yeah,
we've put in a lot of time to
try to get a few extra reps
in the tank for muscle-ups.
Isn't that the coolest thing
about CrossFit, though?
You've been doing this since 2016,
and there's always a hole to fill.
Yeah, you get strong.
You got gymnastics?
Okay, good.
Oh, you got gymnastics.
Can you run?
Okay.
And as you get better at this,
then something else becomes
your deficiency and what's
holding you back from the next step.
Now you can run.
Well, what can you clean?
Oh, come on.
Yeah.
I think that's like with CrossFit,
you can't ever get bored.
Oh, yeah.
You don't.
It keeps evolving.
So from your Instagram,
it appears you're a girl dad.
sir uh I'm I'm one as well
it's one of the best things
in my life is uh being the
father to a little girl um
how how do they look at you
as an athlete um she's
looking at me right now I
but my young ladies are 11 and 13 so uh
I think they look up to me.
They see what dad puts in
the work that he's out there trying hard.
Uh, they're both swimmers.
As I heard that you're a swim,
you're a swimming background as well.
Um, so yeah, they,
they know that they have to
go out and put in the work
and put in the effort and
they give it everything
they got when it comes to, to game time,
to getting on the blocks
and getting started.
So as long as we put in, uh,
we build a hay and we can
shut the barn doors and light the fire.
It's, it's on.
It's,
Yeah,
the one thing that swimmers learn is
that CrossFitters don't get
the – don't is that – and
Caitlin Johnson told me this.
You can't quit in the middle of a lane,
like, or you drown, right?
So when she first went from
swimming to CrossFit,
she didn't put the bar down
because her mentality was
always you have to finish.
Stop.
Right.
What's the point of stop?
You can't stop.
You're going to grab a lane line.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yeah.
So, um,
that's cool that they're in swimming.
It's and man,
Eastern Pennsylvania is
strong in swimming.
These girls are good.
Yeah.
And she went, uh, my daughter is 13.
She went out for track and
here you can swim and run track.
You can not run track and try to swim.
I'll tell you that she went
out and she dusted the
people out in the 800 meter run.
So right on for her.
Yeah.
When I was swimming, I could run forever.
Yeah.
Yeah, you get that capacity.
You can just keep going.
And the fact that you can
just keep breathing now
without having to turn.
Yeah.
When you have all the air in the world,
everything's easy.
It just keeps, you just keep going.
What are their,
what are their swimming strokes?
I have, she's my 11 year old.
She's really good at breaststroke.
My 13 year old, we would say freestyle.
She's getting really good at butterfly.
Yeah,
that was my butterfly freestyle or my
jam.
Breaststroke was, I was atrocious.
yeah man it's what a
technical what a technical
swim people think it's just
bobbing up and down and
just swing your arms around
like man it's so technical
just to watch them do it
and go fast yeah it's
creating your own wake
which is just a concept
that's that people just
don't understand yeah I
love watching it they're
amazing the individual
medley the IM they do that
with the best of them so
Yeah, that was my favorite of all.
So you're married as well.
And how did you meet your wife?
We met at Calvary Chapel, Philadelphia.
We met back when we were in
youth group together.
So I read your Instagram.
Faith is the first thing you have listed.
Faith is important in your life?
Yes.
Faith is very important.
It comes first.
Like I said, we go to Calvary Chapel,
Philadelphia.
We have a strong Christian family base.
I grew up in a Christian home,
my wife as well,
and we just try to instill
that in our kids,
and that's how we want to be good people,
show them that Jesus Christ,
our Lord and Savior,
that's where our faith lies,
and the good news.
Amen to that.
With you being a Mayhem athlete,
was that one of the reasons
you went with Mayhem?
Because faith is first in their mission.
I enjoy the fact that faith
is first in their mission.
The reason why I chose them
is because they're the best in the world.
So if they're going to train
to be the best,
then you train with the best.
Did you get any opportunity
to go to any of the camps
in Knoxville this year?
No, I didn't.
No, I don't get a chance to go down there.
Uh,
is that something you would do in the
future?
I mean, I'd really like to,
but my vacation days are
pretty well spoken for when
it comes to my family and stay,
I kind of stay close to home,
work 40 hour a week job.
God, it's only so many vacation days.
Uh, the open I can do on my own.
It'll be fun to see
everybody on the mayhem
team down there in Birmingham.
Yeah,
the only reason I ask is so many of
them that were there for
semis said that it was that
extra push they needed.
But I do understand.
I work for the state of Ohio.
I have very limited days off,
and all of them are almost
exclusively for this show.
Right.
With one week to my family.
Absolutely.
So I totally get that.
With all that, you have your wife,
you have your faith,
you have your training.
How do you balance all that?
Well,
things have kind of tipped the scale
towards training a little bit.
I work a second shift job,
so I get to go in at 2 p.m.
p.m.
and I work till 10 p.m.
so I get home I get in bed
at 11 and we are up at 6 a.m.
every day so we get
breakfast together and then
we go our separate ways
whether it's school season
taking the kids to school
then I usually train from like 9 a.m.
to 11 come home at 11 have
lunch with my wife get
ready to go to work but I
kind of try to see where I
can fit now that we're in summertime
try to get in the gym a little earlier,
7.30, 9.30,
get some more time with the
family at 10 to 12.
So we just kind of try to, like you said,
balance.
It's not balancing too well
coming into the games,
but we'll get back to it.
Do the girls' activities
slow down in the summer to
allow you a little more flexibility?
For the month of August, yes.
Right from school, we're into summer swim.
So we got done spring swim,
right into summer swim, and
Now, August, it kind of stops.
Everybody gets a summer vacation.
Well,
that kind of works out for you as
you're four weeks out from the games.
It gives you a little more
flexibility to get that training in.
Yeah.
Yeah, we're doing our best to balance it.
So who all is heading with
you to Birmingham?
Going to Alabama.
I got a crew behind me at Blackout.
It's going to be great.
My wife is coming.
The girls, my young ladies,
are going to stay with family here.
They actually have the first day of school,
the day that we have to fly
to Birmingham.
So they're going to stay, do school,
and then the wife and I are going to go.
I have my coach coming from the gym.
Blackout's taking us down there.
We have a house staying with
five other people,
plus the dozen other people
that I know said that they're interested.
Now that we've got a horse in the race,
everybody's going to come
down and check it out and
go to Birmingham.
We're going to have a little
cheer section.
that I love hearing that.
I love hearing that.
Um, I, I think that,
that this group of athletes
deserves to be seen.
And the more people we can
fill that arena with,
the better it's going to be for,
for the sport as a whole.
Yeah.
And everybody on the floor
is everybody so cool with each other.
Yeah.
We're up.
We're going to go out here
and try our hardest to beat each other,
but afterwards it's high
fives and hugs and congratulations.
And,
And who's your fans?
Where are your family at?
Let's go say hi and give
high fives and fist bumps.
Do you have a support shirt
out there that everybody's
going to wear and you're
going to know who Jonathan's crowd is?
Yeah, we're working on one.
It's going to be Edel.
This is all going to be my crew.
Nice.
What are the emotions going
to be like when you hit
that floor and you look up
and you see this sea of
people there for you?
Oh, man.
I'm just so thankful.
To see people support me, I mean,
it's just a hobby for me.
I just like exercising.
Yeah.
I'm really thankful that all
these people want to come
out and watch me exercise for time.
It's really uplifting.
It really means a lot.
Well,
we're going to be down there doing a
behind the scenes.
You've probably heard me say
that on other shows.
Ellie Hiller and myself will
be backstage just chatting with you guys,
getting stories,
trying to catch that
camaraderie that is the
Masters community with the high fives,
the hugs, all of that kind of stuff.
Awesome.
Awesome.
We can't wait to see you there, Scott.
Yeah, and good luck.
Good luck with training the
rest of the way,
and we'll see you in a few weeks, man.
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Scott.
Thanks for doing it.
Thank you, everybody, for joining us.
We'll see everybody next
time on the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
Bye, guys.