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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. So a lot of what this show Man in America is is just exposing the lies that we've been told. Not just the lies about politics or Trump or anything, but the lies that we've been told for decades or even centuries. And I find through my own research that one of the areas we've been lied to the absolute most is our human body and the health around our human body.
Seth Holehouse:What makes us sick? What heals us? And, of course, we've been created they they've created this system that convinces us that we get sick from random occurrences, genetics, the sun gives us cancer, all these things that we have little or no control over, and the solution to all these sicknesses that just so happen to happen all the time, the solution is this pill or this medicine or this cream or this surgery or this chemotherapy. And they've trapped us in them. There's this system, but the great thing is especially post COVID and ever as everyone saw the truth about the COVID jab and everything's showing that, there has been this massive awakening of people saying, wait.
Seth Holehouse:I'm not buying it anymore. Just because you have a white coat and a clipboard, it doesn't make you the authority. And so today's show with my good friend Jonathan Otto, we're gonna be focused on two of the biggest things actually that I've only learned recently not to fully understand the depth of, which is sunscreen and sunglasses and how both of these things, which earlier in my life, I used plenty as a kid going to the beach or as an adult, you know, going somewhere wearing sunglasses. I thought it was pretty cool to have my sunglasses on. There's a lot of information out there that shows that sunglasses and sunscreen are in fact two of the greatest contributing factors to skin cancer.
Seth Holehouse:And on top of that, which will show in a study in today's show, indoor fluorescent lighting that they've I'll show a study where it shows that the more you're sitting in an office setting under fluorescent lighting, the higher your chance of skin cancer, which is crazy because, of course, they're not telling us that because how can they make money off of that? They're sell us what what's next? Fluorescent sunscreen? Maybe that's what it is next. You have Johnson and Johnson now announces that fluorescent lighting causes skin cancer, so we're gonna be selling you fluorescent sunscreen, whatever.
Seth Holehouse:Anyway, this will be a fun episode of where we're just diving into a lot of research, shattering the lies, and trying to bring bring truth to, health, which is so important. So please enjoy the show. And also, quick reminder, every show that I do is done as a video, but also as a podcast. So if you rather listen instead of watch, just get your favorite podcast app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, etcetera. Search for Man in America.
Seth Holehouse:Subscribe on there. And if you really feel inclined to leave me a comment, I love seeing your comments, especially on the podcast app. So If you're listening on Apple Podcasts and you leave a comment or and you give it a rating, it helps me to reach more people. So it's an easy thing that you can do to support the mission. Alright.
Seth Holehouse:Please enjoy the interview. Mister Jonathan Otto, it's great to have you back on, man. I always enjoy our conversations.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Seth. Likewise.
Seth Holehouse:So there's a lot, of course, that we can be talking about, but I what I love in our discussions is that we get to dive deep into what I think is one of the greatest aspects of the psychological operation and the mental prison that's been built around us, which is the system of lies surrounding our health. Even as fundamental of a lie as the sun gives you cancer. You should be scared of the sun. And so it's great to unpack these things with you because I feel like that in my own experience, you know, myself now from ten years ago, I've learned so much more about health, and actually, I fear sickness, like, so much less than I ever have. Of course, I'm I try to be healthy and everything, but I'm no longer worried that I'm one day gonna get diagnosed with cancer and have to go through chemotherapy, and I just I have this perspective is like, well, whatever I've got, I'll figure out ways to deal with it, and, you know, a lot of that that kind of confidence has come from our conversation.
Seth Holehouse:So I thank you for the information that you've always brought forward.
Speaker 2:Wow. No. It's awesome. And it's a big deal considering that your your brother died of lymphoma and obviously sorry to just bring that up like that.
Speaker 3:Of course.
Speaker 2:Bring that home. Thank you. That many people that are watching this have had loved ones like my wife for example she had a grandma died of breast cancer and she all she can remember as a child was that cancer is a death sentence. And so when I 10 ago, plus like maybe closer to 11 now or 12, but she was so paranoid and afraid of that that she didn't want to attend anything with me. She didn't want to come to any conference because it would just brought up a trauma response.
Speaker 2:What I did was I started editing the film when I was producing that, that I was, shooting and editing and storytelling and writing, script writing and various things. When I was editing, I had my headphones off so that she could hear it, and it took away her fear of cancer, and she became somebody that, like you, is empowered versus afraid.
Seth Holehouse:Which is how we should all be living. Because it's also think what it does is it, for me, at least, it puts my faith in God, not in science. It's not Yeah. In this perspective, like, oh, well, hopefully, you know, hopefully, they can invent some new medications gonna cure me. But I think that right now in in today's discussion, you know, it's time for us to dive into one of the biggest things, which is the sun.
Seth Holehouse:And and we've done some episodes of this before, but right now, it's springtime. It's here in America. So, you know, you know, I I don't live in Florida. I live more in the, you know, kinda northern half of of the country, so we're thawing out. Today, it's, like, 65 degrees outside.
Seth Holehouse:I can't I'm just so excited. I was outside earlier with my kids and playing with the chickens and the dogs and everything. And I think a lot of people now are starting to go outside, get more sun. And so talking about melanoma, talking about skin cancer, I think is a it's a really important time for this. And so I've got a bunch of research that I've pulled together that we I can kinda walk through, get some responses from you, then you've got your research you're gonna be getting through as well.
Seth Holehouse:So if it's okay with you, we can just dive right in. Yeah. Be perfect. Okay. So starting off, here is a a post on Twitter.
Seth Holehouse:I thought it was very interesting. It said, 70% of white people reported that they used sunscreen at the beach in 2022. Like, seventy percent. It's pretty pretty crazy. Ten percent of white people reported that they use sunscreen at the beach in 1975.
Seth Holehouse:So in '75, there were approximately thirty skin cancer cases per 100,000. In 2022, there were approximately sixteen hundred skin cancer cases per 100,000. That's more than a four hundred percent increase in skin cancer cases. And the the of this post says, does anyone else find this odd? Which, of course now, I mean, the one thing is that, you know, correlation is not causation and vice versa.
Seth Holehouse:So, you know, maybe because they weren't dumping chemicals like aluminum and barium and strontium into our skies in the seventies, maybe that has something to do with it, probably. However, I've got a little graph here that's showing that as sunscreen usage went up, skin cancer rates went up with it. So the theory okay. So sunscreen the theory is that sunscreen led to people overexposing themselves, plus the ingredients are all carcinogens that get baked into the skin leading to eventual cancers. And this is kinda crazy because if you look here, this is when they have introduced the different these little squares here or when they when they introduced different, ingredients for sunscreen, right here.
Seth Holehouse:So in the forties so, you know, nineteen forties before, the, incense per hundred thousand were were were so low, almost nonexistent. But then as you introduce the SPF eight, SPF 20 you know, 35, etcetera, you're seeing a spike in skin cancer. Now I've also got I'm gonna play a short video here. Okay. Make it this plate and play this video.
Seth Holehouse:It's a minute thirty, and I apologize to the podcast listeners because this video is more for the people that are watching it, because there's lot of information and charts presented on here. However, if you really wanna listen to it or see watch it, go watch another video. But this is a minute and a half video where this guy I love these these edits of videos. They kinda walk through the actual research. So let me play this real quickly, and and you can see us okay.
Seth Holehouse:Right, Jonathan? Oh, your audio
Speaker 2:cut off. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.
Seth Holehouse:Great. So I'll play this real quick. It's about, like, minute and a half.
Speaker 4:Official. It's not real. Is it even even this? This cannot be. Oh, man.
Speaker 4:Finally, some sun. What the
Seth Holehouse:Scam. It's all a scam.
Speaker 4:It's not natural. It's artificial. It's not real. Is it even Why do need this? This cannot be good for you.
Speaker 4:It's always seemed a little sus to me.
Robert Kiyosaki:Super sunscreen to the rescue.
Speaker 4:Every day is a sunscreen game.
Speaker 2:Melanoma Monday when we focus
Speaker 4:Getting people to wear it every day, I think, is the real the real goal. Over time, too much UV can cause melanoma.
Speaker 6:My body produces little to no sperm.
Seth Holehouse:What trim this up?
Speaker 4:When I was told that I had infertility, I felt like my body was failing me. One of the reasons we're so vitamin D deficient is that many of us are avoiding the sun and we're wearing sunscreen.
Speaker 6:Because vitamin D is an important vitamin.
Seth Holehouse:I'm not sure why this is spinning like this. We'll have to edit this out.
Speaker 6:Perhaps it's important to our immune system and perhaps it's affecting the way patients are able to fight their tumor.
Seth Holehouse:So basically, what that guy's, you know, walking through there, showing increased rates in fertility, increased rates in sunscreen use, increased rates in melanoma skin cancer, but also then looking at the makers of the sunscreen, how much they profit from skin cancer treatments as well. So you see it's this this whole cycle, and there's been a lot of different sunscreens that have been pulled from the shelves for, you know, ingredients that are carcinogenic, yet at the same time, you'll see these articles out justifying them and saying, oh, well, even though this ingredient does cause cancer, that's only it's all about the dosage and not the actual ingredient. And so if you have too much of it, it causes cancer, but it's in such a small amount in the sunscreen that it's not gonna cause cancer. I mean, I've got more fish to be be getting into, but when you see this, what are your thoughts on all this?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I think that you've you've you're you're collecting some important data, and there is a lot that has come out in terms of why certain banana boat, for example, which was the one that I remember using as a kid, and why the lawsuits have gone out on that, why certain products have been recalled because they were proven to cause cancer and yet all these products remain and they continue to cause these deleterious effects, and and so their hypothesis is correct. It's true. It's real. These things are happening to people.
Seth Holehouse:Well, it's also what's crazy, you know, we'll continue here with with the next post, is obviously, as we showed here, we saw that we have this direct correlation between increase in in skin cancer melanoma and increase in the different technologies they've used for sunblock, but then looking at this study, so here is another study showing that fluorescent lights at work doubles melanoma risk according to this this study. So this is crazy right here. It says, so malignant melanoma and exposure to fluorescent lighting at work. It says in a study of two hundred seventy four women with malignant melanoma ages eighteen to fifty four and five hundred and forty nine matched controls in New South South Wales Australia reported exposure to fluorescent light at work was associated with a doubling of melanoma risk. So it says the risk grew within increasing duration of exposure to fluorescent light and was higher in women who'd worked mainly in offices than in women whose main place of work was indoors but not offices.
Seth Holehouse:So this is also crazy because you look at it, it's like, okay. First, they're telling us that if you go in the sun too much, the sun gives you cancer. So you better put on this sunscreen that we now know is full of carcinogens. Okay? And so we we have and we have to we showed the studies information from starting that.
Seth Holehouse:But now they're showing us that working in an office with fluorescent lighting, as that study shows right here, doubles the risk of melanoma. And that's crazy because how many people, especially here in America, are going to work every day, they're going to the office, they're working in the office for eight, nine, ten hours a day sitting under fluorescent light, and then let's just say they do develop something on their wrist or whatever is exposed, and they develop some sort of skin, you know, thing. They go have they they have a biopsy done, and they're like, oh, you have skin cancer, and they don't even realize that it's correlate it's caused by the fluorescent lighting. So now these people are gonna start wearing sunscreen, you know, probably even more than they did before and not going into the sun. It's just it's just crazy how many layers upon layers of of lies and deceit there are.
Speaker 2:Wow. It's true. And and to that point, what was discovered as well was that the areas of your body that don't get sunlight exposure are the most likely to develop skin cancers. So what what are those areas? Well, what are the areas that never get sunlight?
Speaker 2:Well, unless you do nude sunbathing, which most people don't, and you know, if you live out in the country, go for it. And, but on beaches, there's children, you can get arrested. And so unfortunately, it's a sad reality. It and it and it leans back to or it leads us back to the potential that the bible is actually telling the truth and that we were originally designed not to wear clothes. And, you know, in the bible, the Garden of Eden, and is I think about that a lot in terms of what is what is the the reality of the absence of light to certain parts of our body?
Speaker 2:What does it do long term and what does it tell us about our origins? Super fascinating but but these areas around the groin area which often never gets exposure around the breast never gets exposure rectal never gets exposure bottoms of the feet tops of the feet never gets exposure even if you're in the sun a lot because you've got a bathing suit on And so and and they they become the most risky. They're the ones that we need to like keep in check. But the areas that are getting sunlight exposure don't have those risks. And that's what's fascinating.
Seth Holehouse:That's crazy. I didn't know that actually, which again, even further goes to show that there's something that doesn't add up here. And here's another study I had about sunscreen. So this is a this is a meta analysis of over 300,000 people showed that sunscreen has no effect on reducing skin cancer. Says sunscreen is a massive scan.
Seth Holehouse:So here's the study here. It says use of sunscreen and risk of melanoma and non melanoma skin cancer, a systematic review and meta analysis. Highlighted right here, it said neither melanoma nor non melanoma skin cancers were associated with sunscreen use with a pooled OR and of one point one and point nine nine respectively. So again, so neither melanoma nor non melanoma skin cancer were associated with sunscreen use in saying and I think what here they're looking for, does sunscreen use prevent cancer? Right?
Seth Holehouse:And they're saying here again that there's no nothing there's no significant association between it, right, in terms of reducing. So, again, more lies. And this is this is what we see over and over again, right, is that we take the sun, which we'll get into with how the sun the healing properties of the sun and sun gazing and everything about that. But you take something that God gave us, the sun, you know, it's like day one, let there be light. And somehow, we have these scientists and these business people that have created an entire industry based upon telling us that we must be frightened and scared of God's creation because God's creation will give you cancer.
Seth Holehouse:So you have to use man's creation to prevent you from getting cancer from God's creation, but then what we realize in all of this is that it's the poison that man is selling you that's giving you the cancer while they're blaming it on God. I mean, this is it's not just sunscreen. This is like, welcome to modern life, and and it ruled by this Luciferian, you know, collection of retarded idiots that were that were stuck being ruled by here on this Earth. I mean, to put it very, I guess, lightly, but it's just wild.
Speaker 2:It's true. It's true. And then the combination of factors where it becomes hard to trace for people where they are having reactions to the sun and it makes it look like the sun is bad. But what did you eat? What are you eating on a regular basis?
Speaker 2:And how is that now reacting when you're in the light? Because, your compounds, the things you're putting in your body are photosensitive meaning they're responsive to light both positively and negatively. If you eat a good whole food plant based diet whatever you choose but like something that that has a lot of whole foods in it that's the way God intended like look at look at plants they're photosensitive, They're photoactive. They will help and support the body and actually help you when you're in the sun. They'll become more available.
Speaker 2:When you're exposed to the sun, they'll enhance those properties of the plants and the things that you're eating that are positive and the exact opposite is true. You put poisons in your body, you're eating seed oils that have been cooked at high heats that are carcinogenic. You're in now you're in the sun, you're having reactions, you're blaming the sun for it but it's actually the diet that's causing you to have reaction to the sun and you can't then skip the sun because of how it's proven to reduce disease of all kinds of all types of comorbidities or possibilities of you dying from any type of disease is dramatically increased when you avoid the sun like a vampire which is kind of kind of interesting where why is there even a narrative of like obviously vampires I would say it never existed in in in, they do exist in the sense of another sense that we're talking about about people that are doing evil things, not in the sense that they live forever and all these myths. Right? But why did they even invent something where people, you know, verapides can't go in the sun?
Speaker 2:But it's you know these narratives, these stories that you can't go in the sun. Well, need to go in the sun and all disease that causes your possibility of dying from or having a reduced quality of life from any disease is dramatically reduced across the board when you have adequate sunlight exposure which doesn't mean that you're literally laying in the sun all day. Even animals know to seek cover and they do get shade but yes you do need your body to be exposed to the sun for significant periods of time through the day and it's interesting that the sun is red in the morning and in the evenings particularly not not exclusively but particularly so the sunrises and sunsets are very safe to even look at which I'm always at the beach during a sunset because I live right next to one and you see everyone looking at it. No one has issues. In fact, they have improvements in eyesight, which is what we're about to discuss, which we see replicated in red light technology.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Well, then along with sunscreen, you have sunglasses, and this was something I only recently came upon, and so I've got a few different things I want to talk I want to bring up about sunglasses because then we get into eye health and everything. So here's this is a post here where I've got a little video that comes with it about sunglasses. This guy says, put down the sunglasses, my friend. You don't need them.
Seth Holehouse:They're actually contributing to your sunburn and skin issues. So this is interesting. If you say sunglasses actually increase your sunburn and skin issues, which this guy will explain. I've got another video to further this. So this guy says, when you wear your sunnies I'm guessing this guy's Australian because they make everything in these little words like sunny, and they they make nicknames for everything as you would know.
Seth Holehouse:Right? I know through my wife. Like, a documentary is not a documentary. It's a doc o. Right?
Seth Holehouse:So when you wear your sunnies, your body perceives itself as inside, doesn't produce melanin as much, and therefore increases the potential of damage to yourself. And in most people going under artificial blue light without sunglasses, blue light at night without protection if you have a seriously messed up light diet that's promoting chronic diseases in our world. He says, in in fact, using sunglasses so often has made your eyes more sensitive to light leading you to needing to use them. I see people reaching for sunglasses when it's cold out and gray skies, then they're behind, then they were behind closed car windows as well. Madness.
Seth Holehouse:Not to mention macular degeneration over years of your eyes never receiving direct healing sunlight, lower blood flow, and worse mitochondrial function of the eyes. If you wear them in very rare occasion to cut through excessive snow or water glare, it's not gonna matter, but in general, ditch the scam sunglasses and let your eyes see the light once again. So I'll play this this quick video here. It's, forty nine seconds. I'm not sure why the guy's face blurred out, but anyway, you you you get the point.
Speaker 7:Stop wearing sunglasses. Wearing sunglasses leads to more sunburn. How? When you wear them in the sun, you are blocking full spectrum sunlight from reaching the eyes. This light information tells the rest of the body what to do.
Speaker 7:Sunglasses reduce melanin production in the skin, and melanin protects your skin from burning, as well as a whole host of other powerful effects in the body. View morning sunlight without sunglasses for UVA A and infrared A so that your body can tolerate UV B light later on in the day. And while we're here, stop using toxic sunscreens as well. Sunglasses and sunscreens are one of the reasons why people have vitamin d deficiencies and burn more often in the modern world.
Seth Holehouse:So we've got another thing here. So this is a post from Barbara O'Neil, who's I'm working on getting on the show, which will be really great. She's such a legend. And she says, did you know sunglasses might be contributing to an increase in cancer rates? When we block certain sunlight rays with sunglasses, we also disrupt the body's natural processes.
Seth Holehouse:This can lead to deficiencies and essential nutrients and hormones weakening our natural defenses. Over time, this imbalance could contribute to serious health issues including cancer. Embrace sunlight wisely to maintain your body's natural balance and support overall health. So this is a video, I think, we played a little a few months ago, but I wanna touch on this again. And this guy right here is like a super legend.
Seth Holehouse:This guy, his name is Andreas Moritz, and he died. Actually, this person is saying this man was murdered for what he shared, and no one knows. Because I think he died in 02/2012 or somewhat more recently. I mean, he he wasn't that old either, but we'll play this video. This is a minute and fifteen seconds where he's explaining how sunglasses affect our health and this this is mind blowing let's go and play this.
Speaker 3:When they first introduced sunglasses it started triggering a massive increase of cancers it has everything to do with cancer You are filtering out certain rays of the sun which is supposed to enter. You're blocking them out and the pineal gland which receives the light in a different color formation. That means the entire spectrum of light. It is necessary for the body to have that light. Basic metabolic processes.
Speaker 3:Also you have to allow UV light to come in. When you do that you are producing a hormone in the brain that is responsible for the melanin production in your skin. So that's where your skin protection occurs. If you are not producing that your skin becomes susceptible to even sunlight. Let's say you wear sun shades, You are the body thinks it's dark outside.
Speaker 3:Okay. And then it doesn't make that hormone that is responsible for producing the melanin to protect your skin. The light is needed. Every cell communicates with every other cell through light. Our cells require sunlight to grow, you know, reproduce themselves so that you have a new body constantly created over and over and over again.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, Jonathan, I'll let you kind of take the mic for a little bit. What do you think about all this?
Speaker 2:Well, there's reasons for these things. So and it is connected to mitochondria and so your eye cells have mitochondria, cerebellum in your brain happens to contain cells that contain per cerebellum cell hundreds of thousands of mitochondria per cell. It's the most densely concentrated area for mitochondria that account for typically around 25% of the cell. They surround the nucleus. This is how cells produce energy, so their organelles, the mitochondria and they produce adenosine triphosphate when stimulated by light, and that ATP is and that that process is how cells function.
Speaker 2:They need energy to function much like gas in a tank of a car is essential for the car to drive. So now it can perform all functions, whatever that is, cellular repair, regeneration, something called mitophagy. Mitophagy is when the mitochondria undergo apoptosis or autophagy and in simple terms, program cell death. When that doesn't happen, you have diseased cells that continue to be diseased, and they will not get out of the body, They'll stay in the body and you'll be sick and tired because your cells are sick and tired. You're sick and tired.
Speaker 2:Cells are sick and tired because the mitochondria are sick and tired. And as they become senescent, which is a term, referred to as zombie cells, they're zombie cells because they're alive, but they're dead in that they don't perform functions and they secrete poisons that poison other mitochondria. And then that continues and continues and continues. And there's nothing to shut that process off. And then as the cells are diseased they can't perform normal functions and then you're wondering why everything's not working and you're having to get medications for your thyroid because there's a direct correlation between the mitochondria in your thyroid and the cerebellum.
Speaker 2:The connection between the cerebellum and the thyroid gland and it's the lack of energy production of the cells that's causing the issue. So now when you block the the actual one, your skin is is the light is how your body absorbs light. If I took a red light and put it up against my skin, you'd see it light up. If I put one over my mouth, you'd see the whole light mouth light up. And this is showing you that your skin is translucent for a reason.
Speaker 2:The whole body from head to toe every part of it is translucent light is supposed to be absorbed at every part of your body and now you're stopping something that is so critical for life and cellular functioning and the eyes is even beyond that. It's how you can perceive all light and and then they're a window, they're like your body's like a solar panel but then your eyes are like a solar panel on steroids and they're receiving information much like the experts that you've shown have been talking about. It's giving information to the body for its important processes which include how to protect itself against burning and these processes, the melanin etc. And these are the things that we need to understand because people that are suffering need to be looking at sunlight exposure more than anyone and people that want to maintain wellness need to continue and be getting in the sun and be opening their eyes, not closing them, not blocking them. And I know that some people have issues.
Speaker 2:I've had issues with my eyes with tridium as an example. And so that's one where it can be hard, for some people but like you you still can't stop that and then and then there are times in the day where it is extraordinarily gentle like the red, in the morning and the evening which is why you can look directly at the sun and and we're about to show some studies which show a dramatic improvement, which I even just saw an example of this as a 93 year old woman. Not sure if I think I might have shared it with you when we're just chatting. Maybe I didn't. Oh, you'll love this.
Speaker 2:It was a week ago. I was chatting with a woman, Nita, and she's a carer for a woman. And so she she'd purchased some red light devices from us. And so she took care of this woman, beautiful, like woman that was you know thoughtful enough to not say well this 93 year old like who cares? She's not a profitable member of society.
Speaker 2:She's got dementia. She's a nothing and nobody. She thinks the way God and Jesus you know, to me think, like, his eyes on the sparrow, and I know he watches over me as the song says. She's like
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Speaker 2:The heart of God here, she just goes and, puts a red light device over this woman's eyes for only a few minutes just like, what we're about to show in this study. The woman now, remember she has dementia so she doesn't know what's happening and she's saying something is wrong with the TV. What is wrong with the TV? Who changed the TV? Why is what's wrong with the TV?
Speaker 2:And then the need is saying what do you mean what's wrong with TV? She says, I can read it. I can read everything it says, and I can see the colors. And then she flicks onto the stock channels at the stock channel, and she can read fine print. And she's picking up now she's picking up I mean, it's only been like two weeks since the first time and I chatted with her again last week and she's having more and more dramatic improvement but here's a 93 year old that was able to distinguish and to have this severe myopia and some macular degeneration and here she's able to after 20 it was twenty one minutes later the TV was on.
Speaker 2:She kind of timed it which is really cool that she just watched that happen real time. She looked at her at a watch and she's like how is this possible and we'll show the clinical study that backs this. But it's an example of sunlight exposure is amazing and so it over time it's possible that people could have some pretty dramatic improvement just by getting out into the sun and looking at the sunrise and sunset. But what we're seeing is taking that process and 10x ing it with taking a device that is taking the wavelengths of the sun but then because you're so close to it, it's bringing that irradiance which is the amount of power delivered, it's amplifying it, maybe tenfold, maybe a hundredfold. It'd be good to have the exact measurement measurements but we see this in the clinical studies which is unprecedented and so we showed the study as well that had a 17% eye improvement after one session which was a double blind placebo.
Speaker 2:So you had a group that got a fake light and a group that got the real light 17% eye improvement after one session. Imagine what that would look like for people continuing to do that and so I don't think we should get used to eye problems as being normal. I don't think they are normal. I think they are things that are products of our society and they generally speaking can all be reversed.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. So let me pull up that study and and and or just I've got a whole thread on this, but it's crazy. So, because, you know, you didn't you didn't tell me that story of that woman that and what an interesting, just correlation or, I guess, study to look at is that all of a sudden, she's saying, hey. Something's wrong with the TV. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Which I guess, like, if you've had poor eyesight for quite some time and all of a sudden you didn't anymore, you'd think, wait. That's there's something wrong. Like, this is not normal. But let me pull up this little, thread here, about red light and eye health, but this also gets into sunlight, which I think is really important because, when we when we talk about all about red light or sunlight, it's not I'm not gonna say it's the same thing. Right?
Seth Holehouse:But there from what my own research, what red light does is it gives you the optimum aspect of the sunlight. Right? Because not you know, we we talk about sun gazing early morning, early evening. Well, for a lot of people, like for me, for instance, we're, you know, we're busy with the kids in the morning. When the sun's going down, we're doing bath time, dinner time.
Seth Holehouse:I can't know, it's not easy for me to go out and say, okay. I'm gonna go stare into the sunset for twenty minutes as, you know, Kate's juggling kids and trying to feed them and prevent food from being thrown everywhere. But let me let me jump into this thread that's really interesting. It's about, red light and eye health. So it says looking into red light can reverse retinal degeneration, enhance eyesight, and improve visual acuity in in lazy eye.
Seth Holehouse:And I never knew that. There are actually studies that show that it can even reverse and and aid with, red with lazy eye. So it says that red light has a wavelength ranging from 600 nanometers to 700 nanometers, and infrared light ranging from 700 to 1,400 in length on the electromethetic spectrum. These wavelengths are able to pierce directly through your body tissues, skin, organs, bones. This thread is about red light therapy, RLT, also referred to as photobiomodulation PBM or low level light therapy, LLLT.
Seth Holehouse:So here's a really helpful picture. It says during sunrise, the low angle that sunlight enters the Earth's atmosphere causes blue light to diffuse while red light remains intact and more penetrating. This means that the sunrise is optimal for red light absorption. And so you can see there on this this little diagram here that, okay, you have the person standing there, and you can see that, okay, when the sun is lower in the sky, it's further away, I guess, you know, technically, in terms of the the the path. Right?
Seth Holehouse:Obviously, it's it's it doesn't, you know, get a lot closer, but you can see that it's this long path. And as it goes through the atmosphere, that blue light, as you mentioned above, gets diffused, and so you have this longer path that creates this red light versus during midday when the sun is high. So that's also one thing is that where people that talk about sun gazing, As far as I understand, you know, you don't go out at noon and stare directly into the sun at noon. It's something that you do in the evenings and in the mornings. So continuing here, he says the upregulation of ROS or in a or RNS by red slash near infrared light triggers the translocation of the transcription factor NFKB to nucleus, enabling NFKB to alter gene expression and other genes whose role are in antioxidation.
Seth Holehouse:So you probably understand better better than I do. So he says no adverse effects were observed in these published studies studies. He says, the findings suggest that red and near infrared light therapy is safe and effective as a non invasive treatment for retinal neurodegeneration. And so with eyesight, and this is the, article which we'll pull up here in a second, says a recent study found deep red light exposure in the morning improved vision by seventeen percent. Also, age related macular degeneration.
Seth Holehouse:A 02/2008 study found that red light improved the visual acuity in most patients with age related macular degeneration. AMD is the most common eye disorder in people 50. So this is a whole other aspect of this, and I'll go ahead and I'll kick it back over to you, and I'll get this, other article loaded up about these seventeen percent. So, Jonathan, what are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. This is great. This is really great and it also gives you a window into how beneficial it is for all aspects of health because what people will find as well because these studies are interesting, they just measured the eye health, but what you'll find is other health of the body, the organ health is being improved through the eyes which is really quite fascinating to think about because if you can feel like you know you're assisting the eyes but you're putting it straight into the motherboard and people kind of generally have a bit of an awareness that your brain is regulating a lot of activity in the body. There's signals going from the brain to everything else.
Speaker 2:So wouldn't you want to get is the reason why your brain is near your eyes? These are just logical things to think about. So what happens when you get light into your eyes which transfer that light into your brain and then what happens when your brain has that signal now and then you'll start to see all different types of things improve. I actually believe and I've never seen people talk about this I believe one of the best ways to support your thyroid health is to get light through the eyes into the brain and then let your brain then deal with and help the thyroid. People often think very specific to the organ that they're trying to help.
Speaker 2:So they'll say, okay, well I've got this problem so I'm just going put the light over here. I'm just going to put light over my kidneys, over my liver. There's a reason why whole body, whole organ photobiomodulation light therapy is so effective because you're supporting something that is all interconnected. Your eye health is connected to when you look at Iridology connected to your organ health. So support your organs to support your eye health.
Speaker 2:Your brain is connected to your gut as one of the many aspects of a connection but that that's a very significant connection considering seventy eighty plus percent of serotonin is produced in the gut. So these are all really important factors and microbiome is highly sensitive to light. Help your microbiome so that you can make proper conversions of your food which is nothing until you can your body makes the conversion then it's now utilizing this otherwise it's just you know food doesn't help you. The conversion of the food is what helps you. So think about all those processes which include things like digestive enzymes.
Speaker 2:How do you make sure your food is being utilized And then light even bypasses all of that so instead of going through the digestive system and relying on how your body can break it down you're piercing straight into the cell irregardless of any particular issue you might have in digestion. So I'm kind of broadening it up there but what you'll see is autoimmune conditions get resolved. There's reasons why this study is showing nine out of ten people with autoimmune issues get a significant improvement in symptoms and their condition, the inflammatory markers with red light therapy and studies on cancer that we've been speaking of some of which where can entire groups that are on therapy go into remission during the clinical study. Like in some cases one hundred percent, in other cases larger studies have a longer periods of time when invasive therapies are also being used and you see half the group and go into remission, like the prostate cancer study in four thirteen participants but the control group was only thirteen point five percent. So four times greater likelihood of beating prostate cancer and this is when in most cases they're using chemo, radiation and surgery which is claiming lives during the study which is why that therapy is not like some of the others which is showing a, you know, as high as a % resolution.
Speaker 2:And it's also why we're talking about not one therapy but combining therapies like chlorine dioxide, like diet related, interventions, etc.
Seth Holehouse:Well, here's the, the study I want to show. This is the one that we're referring to. It says morning exposure to deep red light improves declining eyesight, and this was this is on sciencedaily.com, respected, you know, obviously medical journal. So the summary, this is crazy. Just three minutes of exposure to deep red light once a week when delivered in the morning can significantly can significantly improve declining eyesight finds a pioneering new study.
Seth Holehouse:So it says here that just three minutes of exposure to deep red light once a week when delivered in the morning can significantly improve declining eyesight finds a pioneering new study by UCL researchers. So it says, published in scientific reports, the study builds on the team's previous work, which showed that daily three minute exposure to long wave deep red light switched on energy producing mitochondria cell in the human retina, boost naturally declining video, vision. It says for this latest study, scientists want to establish what a single three minute exposure would affect a single three minute exposure would have, while also using much lower energy levels in their previous studies. Furthermore, building on separate UCL research and files that found that mitochondria display shifting workloads depending on time of the day. The team compared morning exposure to afternoon exposure.
Seth Holehouse:So this is what's also crazy about this is that they found in this study. Right? I think that the one of conclusions they saw around a 17% increase in eyesight. That study was based on three minutes a week. It's not some crazy thing.
Seth Holehouse:It's not like you have to take some special medication or it's this this month long process. You there?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You were saying it's not like it's a really long process, right?
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. I'll cut that out real quick afterwards. Yeah. So what's crazy, this study shows that it's not just it's not some massive duration, that just three minutes once a week. I mean, to me, this is just this is crazy.
Seth Holehouse:It's like, okay, three minutes once a week? That you go and you look at you look at this red light in the morning for three minutes once a week, and it has they saw, I think, I think an average of 17% improvement in eyesight. It's it's just astounding because we're so used to, okay, this drug for six months daily, do all this, you got to have cataract surgery and all. We're used to this modern way of looking at it, but it's so simple.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. And what's fascinating is some of these studies are based on, it's almost like they're trying to set up a way in which that people come for more temporal solutions so that a clinic thing can say okay do three minutes and then walk away even though if they did three minutes three times a week it may increase by 50% and then over the course of three months they have like I'm just putting out concepts here 80%, ninety %, one hundred % resolution but those things they don't often get looked at from a complete curative standpoint and we even are seeing examples like that with the elderly woman that we're seeing her improvements are far greater than what you're seeing in that study and she is I mean she's 93 with macular degeneration and dementia and chronic pain throughout her body which has also been resolved with red light therapy having that red light over these areas of her body like her feet that have caused like a lot of suffering and that after one session in that case she was pain free and has been since. The same woman she had her brother it's from age 10 so for over sixty year or fifty years because he's 60 he's had pain and this burning sensation in his knee every day since that time and he's got about 12% of what he had.
Speaker 2:Like it's about he said it dropped by an eighth. He's only got an eighth of the pain that he had according to his report after like two or three sessions and then you look at which I'm not saying everyone will get that but you look at the Birmingham University study you're talking about time commitment it was a one minute per day and it was a spinal cord injury study on rats and so they didn't test the rats because they thought let's help all rats worldwide. They tested it because they're using this to denote what can be done in humans and they found that it was in that one minute it increased cell viability by 45%. So cells were more 45% more efficient. They could actually perform their functions.
Speaker 2:Improved by that much in that short period of time. It was regenerative of the spine because it was a spinal cord injury study and it was neuroprotective. So it was helping with the brain cells which would then relate to things like Alzheimer's and dementia. So really important study and it one that really breaks people's myths that they don't have time for it. Nobody doesn't have a minute.
Speaker 2:If don't have a minute then certainly you're not watching this. And if you are watching this but you don't have a minute then let's see a therapist because you need you know to which is not the case. I'm just making a good point here about the fact that you know commit to yourself and commit to your healing and regeneration and that life will become much easier and more pleasant and this you know like an example of this woman she's got a new lease on life now. She's got so much joy and happiness. She's regained a lot of abilities that she didn't have, and everyone can achieve these things.
Speaker 2:It's not just for some. These studies are conducted so that you can see that this is happening across the board, not just for some lucky people.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly, and actually, think to me, it's about building it into routine. So we've got we've got a red light panel I got through you, and it's I think it's the 1,500 watt one. It's the bigger one, and we have it up in our bedroom, And part of the routine is almost every morning, I wake up and groggy eyed, I go lay on our little table with, a massage table type setup with a red light, and I'll go spend five, ten minutes on it, and that's it. And I can say that, like, for me, like, my mom now has a red light. My nanny's getting a red light.
Seth Holehouse:Everyone I talk to, I'm like, need to go get a red light because it's it's such a it's such a lifesaver. I mean, literally. Now I'm I'm young, I'm healthy. I don't have skin cancer or those things, but just the effect that I feel that it's almost like you're walking out, and and you feel this, like, beautiful Florida sun on a beach. Like, that's waking up in the winter when it's it's dark and snowy outside, and I get laid down for ten minutes or whatever it is.
Seth Holehouse:I I get a drift off into beach land, and it's it's just it's a great way to wake up, but it just what I find, though, is that it like, whatever grogginess is part of the morning, it's just instantly. Like, after that, it's just I'm ready to go, and I've got energy throughout the day. And that's just kind of my own experience. You know, my my wife, Kate, she uses it. She's seen reduction, and she had is is dealing with something under thyroid.
Seth Holehouse:She's seen a reduction in that. So, I mean, it really is it's the real deal. But one question I did have you, though, is because and I've seen this because a lot of the the people that watch the show have gotten red light, and they're they're loving it. But one question I've seen is whether you can look into the red light, because if if you go online and try to go Google these things, they'll say, oh, no. Don't do this.
Seth Holehouse:Don't look at the red light. They will also say, don't look at the sun. Right? They don't see they they don't get into you know, the morning is safe and the evening is safe, but, so can you just look right into the red light and for how long? Is is there is there a limit to what you'd recommend?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. It it's so interesting. It's hard to really know exactly what to say in this point even though, you people all do their different things. Like you see when Gary Brecker went on, he's a friend of mine, but he went on, Rogan and he talked about the fact that when he's sitting in front of his red light panel or whatever red light device he's using, he's got his eyes open the whole time.
Speaker 2:He's that's why I've got perfect twenty twenty vision. I'm not saying that people should do that. And he even said, I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this and maybe I shouldn't be saying this. And and but I'm not saying that people should do that. I'm saying that people are reporting that.
Speaker 2:And then these studies are showing that, it's, you know, that three minutes, certainly you're seeing the proof for that. Then others would say, well, look. What were the exact specifications of that particular device that was used in that particular study and make sure it's not too powerful. And if that were the case, then that could be modulated by stepping back further from the device so that it would be able to be done with any device by modulating how far you away from the device. And some of those parameters need to be further like ascertained by people that are looking into these things.
Speaker 2:But for me, I would for me personally with a panel like what you have and with what we have, I'm personally doing things where I'm having my eyes open in front of it for a few minutes exactly like those studies and the other way Doctor. Andrew Hooverman talked about it was one minute three times a week instead of three minutes once a week or see how your body responds and your eyes respond to do more than you know do three minutes multiple times a week if that's something you feel called to after doing your own research. And then in this case are you six inches away? Are you a foot away? But the cool thing and that's up for grabs based on what you can research and find out and see how your body responds to it.
Speaker 2:But then the other part is that whether you say, I think about someone like David Nino Rodriguez, he's like, my eyesight is totally improved. I see it all the time. And then these people are wearing protective eyewear the whole time and it's still getting through the protective eyewear. Look at the nanometers of penetration. Ten-sixty is an example of a wavelength that's proven for eye health.
Speaker 2:That's going to shoot through the entire eyeball even if you've got your hand in front of it. And so these are some examples of the fact that you can keep your eyelids closed and just say look I just am nervous about this but arguably to have your eyelids closed versus the protective eyewear you're going to get additional benefits going to be more penetrative but even if you're using protective eyewear we're seeing examples of people getting great results. So people have to go with their level of comfortability and just measure the results.
Seth Holehouse:That's a good point. You think about actually the eyelids, like right now if I close my eyes, I can see my studio lights. I still see the lights. Like, you you they're still coming through. And same with the red light.
Seth Holehouse:You close your eyes, and it's it's it's like you're it's almost as you're laying in the sun. It's that bright. So, Jonathan, as we're we're wrapping up here, I wanna pull up your website. And one thing we'll say is that, look, there's a there's a million different companies that sell different types of red light panels. You're not the only person that has red light, so no way is this something where, hey.
Seth Holehouse:Only Jonathan is the guy for red light. There's a lot of good brands out there. There's also a lot of cheap brands. Like, I remember when I was looking into buying an infrared sauna, and it's like, okay. Well, this company, their infrared sauna is 5,000, but the same looking one on Amazon is a thousand.
Seth Holehouse:And then you realize, like, oh, the one on Amazon is, like it dies after six months. It's putting off terrible EMFs. So there's a reason why there there is a spectrum of of price and quality, but you also have some of, like, the more brand name, like the superhuman protocol ones that are, you know, 6,000 for a red light setup. And it's like, okay. If you wanna go that way, you can, but you're also paying for a a premium brand as part of what you're paying for the fact that this is something that is coming off of the the big athletes promoting it and everything.
Seth Holehouse:But I'm gonna pull up your website because I think that you've hit the sweet spot of building a a red light product that that kinda hits all the points, but is still affordable without being, like, you know, kind of crazy expensive, you know, $5.10, $15,000. So your website is my.com. So myredlight.com. I'll put that in the description. There's a ton of information you have on this website.
Seth Holehouse:It's not just a website. You can buy something. There's a lot of learning you can do. Actually, I'll show at the top. You've got a video.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. So here you go. Here is a just a video that you have. People can go in there and watch it and see. That's what the bit the bigger panel looks like.
Seth Holehouse:So that's that is the exact same panel that I have, and that's the exact same panel that my mom has, that and we use it, almost daily. So scrolling down, just walk us through what the options are. So what I also I like about this is that there's you you can kind of find whatever meets your budget. So you can go and you can spend a couple thousand dollars and get the bigger, you know, 1,500 watt larger panels, but you've also got, smaller devices that are, say, 1,100 plus we have a we have a good discount for people. You've got the belt.
Seth Holehouse:You've got the hat. You have the mask, and people wanna, you know, work for for improving their face. You've got the knee, hand wrist. So, again, you can see, there's, you know, quite a variety of price points here, but walk walk us through, this overall selection, what you recommend. Just kinda walk us through this, Jonathan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. Thanks, Seth. So nine different wavelengths that's part of the studies that you were looking at and, you look at say whether it's eye health six seventy nanometers was the actual nanometer penetration, which was the study we were referencing, which is one of the nine different wavelengths that are in this device as well as the other ones are proven would be six sixty and the 800s there's a couple in the 800s like eight fifty and then ten sixty. All of those wavelengths are in this device and you're dealing with different levels and it's actually activating something called cytochrome c oxidase and nitric oxide in these different levels and layers in the body so the higher the number the deeper the penetration but deeper is not always better because you need to go to more shallow areas and the deeper areas and when you do it at the same time you're activating these in the body at the same time. It's the reason why sunlight is full spectrum.
Speaker 2:It's you've got every possible wavelength and the problem with a lot of devices, which to me is you know you 10x health and you know I don't want to criticize anyone and I think that they're good even they're good but you're talking typically two or three wavelengths and it's getting further away from what's naturally in the sun whereas with nine wavelengths you're getting the best of both worlds because with light emitting diode technology which is LED is entirely different from the LEDs in home because they don't flick a constant source of light and because of that they're extremely beneficial and 90% of the power is going into the light not into the heat like with an incandescent bulb which is why all the studies including the eye health one were all based on light emitting diodes which replicate laser technology and they're easier safer and more affordable and can be done from at home use. So, and I can reference back to what we're seeing there to navigate that if you like, Seth. And then then you're dealing with, if you scroll down irradiance levels, the most important thing even before wavelengths to look at is called irradiance.
Speaker 2:So you can see that listed there in terms of what it is. Go down lower. Yeah. So two zero five milliwatts per centimeter squared at three inches, one eighty five, and you can see that on a on a graph. That's the amount of power delivered.
Speaker 2:You can go even down further. You'll see you can zoom out from there. You'll see an illustration of what that looks like down further on the page. Keep going and then on yep keep going and then you'll see here yep keep going and next one down and yeah so you see some of these images at these light nanometer penetrations keep going down and then you'll see the power density go up and sorry yeah go up and then hit the side arrow on that image up above. Keep going up above.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah,
Speaker 2:keep going up and Oh, here we go. So there you go. So then you go left on that on to the side arrows there. And so that's an example. There's 192, one hundred 90 five at three inches squared and hit the back arrow.
Speaker 2:So and the forward arrow. So you'll see then the next one at the two zero five at the three inches hence why we're encouraging people to be close but even if you're 12 inches away, you're getting a lot of irradiance still so you could be working out in front of it and you could stay longer because it's a less irradiance but then being up nice and close, you're really getting that depth of penetration and it's using a 30 degree lens which is deeper penetration. There's many reasons why these devices are outperforming other devices and you and your family got the results that you're getting and there's certain parameters that we've made sure to stick to in our unique and proprietary delivery system which does stand out. It is specific. It's not the same thing.
Speaker 2:That no devices aren't the same. The wavelengths that are there are not the same. Your bodies are responding to those wavelengths. Well what would it like on another device? We have no idea.
Speaker 2:But we do know, that you're meeting these specifications. Something that is also unique there is every LED is dual. So meaning that they have both red and near infrared coming out of the same bulb which means that you in that image, you're looking at 285, and then there's the wavelengths proven for those conditions. Yeah. So you can see that.
Speaker 2:Like, if I if I hit a button on this, which you'll see me, like, hit buttons as you, like, scroll through that video, and then the whole thing will turn red. The whole thing will turn red and orange. The whole thing will then it will turn blue, in in some parts because because the dual LED delivery means that you So there's lot of amazing things about this brand new dual layer LED panel. Fascinating the way that it can channel both types of LEDs through the same chip. As you can see, the the power, the radiance is is fantastic.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There you go. And so then you've got four eighty, 590, 6 30, 6 60, 6 70, 8 10, 8 30, 8 50, 10 60. So all evenly distributed which is normally like whether you go to something like 10x you'll see one is red, one is near infrared, one is red, one is near infrared and it's actually, unevenly distributed. Whereas in this case it's all evenly distributed and so even though you may be looking at two eighty LEDs, you're actually looking at 700, five 70 six double the amount.
Speaker 2:So it's just a way to get deeper penetration to get more wavelengths at the same time too. And and then instead of if it was twice the size, then you'd be missing parts your body you'd have less concentration in those areas so the fact that it's compacted into what's in front of you over all your vital organs that's a game changer and it's part of the reason why the results are so prolific. And then the thing that you mentioned about like being able to come in at any budget the cool thing with that is and whatever people do to get started is critical just to get started wherever you can, whether it's higher or lower or whatever it is, but whichever you're choosing, you're saving money because like if we're talking about eye health, then you're talking about something you continue to reorder or seeing a therapist or a specialist that has some proprietary treatment or whatever they're doing. You're paying every time you're getting these things. You're paying every time you're ordering that supplement every month.
Speaker 2:This is a one and done and it's one for not just you but the whole family. And so you've got payment plans available there on the page so that you can have that and you know you're paying whatever that is $20.30, $50 a month or you just look at what if you're paying that in one lump sum, you're looking at what that costs you over one year, two years, even five years and it's cheaper than any other thing that people can do. So and that's why I think as well with you, Seth, you know, we're always talking to people. Everyone has some limit to their budgets, but it's it it saves you some from so many other things, and that's what we wanna do. We wanna prevent people from these massive bills, and that's the humanitarian part of me because it's always been about making people's lives better and saving people from a tyrannical system that preys on you in those situations.
Speaker 2:And then when you're doing something like this, you're also giving to a company that is seeking to get information into the world for free. Like when when you and I educate on chlorine dioxide, we don't sell it because one, we don't wanna go to jail. Two, because we just wanna give light to everything. We're talking about sunlight. We're talking about things that are just helping educate the public.
Speaker 2:We don't care. It's just and then you're able to fuel companies that actually are here to make a difference and change lives. And so we appreciate that. It makes a difference and allows us to get a message to the world to save lives and we're we're working to save billions of people's lives in the coming years. And I'm grateful for the opportunity.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, absolutely, man. Well, Jonathan, it's always always great speaking with you. I'll put the links to what we talked about in the the description of the show, but again, it's just myredlight.com. It's easy. And we have a we have a discount code set up for people.
Seth Holehouse:They can save you more. What is that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Seth.
Seth Holehouse:Okay, just discount Seth.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then that'll get you an additional 10% like you'll see that we've got gifts and there's some discounts there applied on the page, but when you put in the code, it'll activate that additional 10% off what you can see there when you look at the page. So it's a great saving and something that will yeah really help you and your family. And then when you're on that page as well you see the wavelengths and so you look at all the different conditions and different wavelengths so you'd see that there. We've shared that in the past But then look at all the other conditions we focus on skin health and eye health but all the autoimmune conditions, all the neurodegenerative conditions, dementia, all the types of cancer that you not only may be trying to deal with but also to prevent and so we want to give you all those tools. It's not just one thing we're doing.
Speaker 2:We're looking at wellness of the body. We want you to not have a failing liver. We want you to not have failing kidneys. We want you to have healthy gut microbiome. We want your heart to be healthy.
Speaker 2:All of these critical organs have critical mitochondria within the organ cells that are responsible for the regeneration of those organs. Fuel those and watch how everything changes and that's whole body wellness and that's how you can tap into this for your health, for your family for a long time to come. So it's not just one or two things. It's not even about disease at all, Seth. It's not about the conditions and names people give things.
Speaker 2:It's about cellular wellness. Get yourselves well, be well, stay well, not only have a greater lifespan but a greater health span, the greatest that you could possibly, achieve with these types of tools. They are life changing.
Seth Holehouse:Well, Jonathan, man, thank you so much. Again, it's myredlight.com, discount code is Seth s e t h. Jonathan, it's been great talking to you, man. I appreciate you coming on and look forward to next time.
Speaker 2:Thanks so much. Catch you soon.
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