Casa-Cast

A Harmony of Hospitality and Market Strategies

In this episode of Casa Cast, host Steve Schwab is joined by Alfredo Arcos, VRBO's Director of Partner Success for the Americas. Alfredo shares his musical family background and discusses his professional journey from the hotel industry to the vacation rental space with Casago. He emphasizes the importance of professional photography, competitive pricing, and optimized properties for attracting travelers. Alfredo also highlights the role of technology in both industries and the significance of an owner-centric approach. The episode concludes with anticipation for a friendly competition involving spicy chicken wings.

00:00 Introduction to Casa Cast
00:16 Meet Alfredo Arcos
00:28 Alfredo's Musical Background
01:52 Transition to Hospitality Industry
04:04 Optimizing Vacation Rentals
06:50 The Importance of Market Knowledge
09:15 Reflections on CosaCon
10:26 Owner Centric Philosophy
11:08 Closing Remarks and Fun Challenge

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Let's go.

Steve V2: Hey, welcome to Casa Cast.

I'm Steve Shaw, your host, and today
we're with Alfredo Arcos, the director

of Partner Success for the Americas.

Alfredo, thanks for coming on today.

Thank you for having me, Steve.

So, Alfredo, you live in Austin,
you've got a wife and three kids, and

you come from a family of musicians.

Speaker 3: That is correct, Steve.

Steve V2: How far back does that go?

Speaker 3: Well, as far as I
remember, I think before I was born,

my father was already a musician,
and he was touring around the

world in a band called Los Joao.

And they were pretty popular in
the 70s and the 80s, so Yeah,

I have a musician background.

That's really cool.

And now what did he play?

He played the guitar and
it was, um, a second voice.

And my uncle, his brother was the
lead voice and the bass player.

Really?

Steve V2: Yeah.

That's pretty cool.

And so now that's been passed
down to you as a musician.

And what do you play?

I actually play

Speaker 3: multiple instruments and
you know, every industry evolves.

I started as a young kid playing drums.

Then I grew up and I
grew up with the guitar.

It's not I'm just like the companion
guitar But then my brother my older

brother he put together a band
He needed a bass player in this

so I took the bass and I became a
bassist Wow Quite the talented guy.

That's a lot of different instruments
to learn to play I mean one once

you know how to play a string
instrument is pretty easy to get

. Steve V2: Yeah, I play instrument I play
the stereo I play it quite well, actually.

So Alfredo, you come from
the hotel background.

.
Speaker 3: I joined Expedia in 2015 on
the hotel side of the, of the industry.

And back then we were totally focused
on acquisitions and I needed to move

and open several offices around Mexico.

I was managing Mexico at the time.

Then when COVID hit We needed to shrink
a lot of those decisions that we made.

And I was promoted to director for
all the, like the head of Mexico.

And I needed to move from
Guadalajara to Cancun where I

took my family to live there.

That's when I got very much intrigued
on the vacation rental industry.

Like how can you grow a business that's
already big and huge and how can you

give more experience to Or more available
experiences for the travelers to have

around the country, around the world.

Steve V2: And so with all that
experience and amazing background,

you've been really thinking about how
do vacation rentals transition more

towards the hotel professionalization
of the industry in some positive ways.

.
Speaker 3: So yes.

And one of the things that I've
experienced the most is it is very

different than I didn't expect
that when I joined the industry

is it is very, very different.

But what I do can say is both industries
are focused on people, on giving people

experiences, and they're going to be
relying more and more on technology.

So one of the things that I'm expecting
to transition, at least with verbal, if to

give more context, a couple of years ago,
maybe five years ago, we were home away.

And we were selling subscriptions for
our property managers and everyone

wanted to do this with Casago.

Now, we have the model of paper
hooking and we're actually

optimizing in a different way.

We're just not selling,
we're account managing.

So we're trying to get the most
And give the best advices to our

hosts and property managers so that
they can have the best optimized

product on the shelf for people to

Steve V2: select them on.

And what are some of those ways
that you're helping them optimize?

Like what would be some
practical application to that?

Speaker 3: I think.

There's the basic stuff like photos.

You need professional photos.

You need to be able to tell
them and share what are the main

difference about your property?

Why they should be booking your
property against another property.

I mean you're competing
with another properties.

People want to compare and have
the ability to make a choice.

Yeah.

So I think Right now by being
optimized, you have, you have

to have the right price point.

You have to be compelling to attract
the demand and, uh, it has to be

easy to book and you as a host should
be able to give experience, a great

experience to whomever goes there
that they are willing to come back.

So I got two

Steve V2: questions out of that.

What makes a property more compelling?

Right.

I

Speaker 3: think love.

Starts when you see things, right?

Yeah.

In Spanish, we say,

So once you see a beautiful property,
you start getting interest, but

then reviews take a very, uh,
it is very important for people.

There's comparing reviews.

How was the experience?

Is it true?

What you're seeing is
what you're expecting.

Sometimes it's not, which is unfortunate.

And then the price point.

Okay.

It is a beautiful property.

It's in a beautiful location.

There's a lot of things that you can do
around it, but it's, is it too expensive?

Or then just a comparison
between value and value offered

and what you're willing to pay.

And that's, I think, what makes
it compelling, what you actually

pay for the value that you can.

Steve V2: Sure.

Is there ever a time when
a property is too cheap?

Yeah.

A hundred percent.

That happens

Speaker 3: a lot.

It gives you uncertainty
on what you're booking.

Right.

Sometimes paying a little bit more,
wanting to pay a little bit more because

you want to feel safe, because you
want to be in a better location because

there are multiple factors that affect.

So pricing, it could go wrong
if you go too cheap, right?

So you need to find a way to find
a price point and that's what

we are here to help you with.

Steve V2: Well, I will
say this, that your team.

Helps us tremendously.

We love Alex and Jenny.

Thank you so much.

We think at Casago that they're
the difference makers between

you and the quote unquote,
other OTAs that are out there.

We're huge fans of them and
they're very loved at the Casago

company all the way around.

So we're really grateful for the
things you do and digging into that.

So you spoke a little bit about being able
to be account managers and bring them in.

market knowledge to
our franchise partners.

And I think there's some new initiatives

.
, can you give us maybe an outline of
what's to come and how market knowledge

can help us become better property

Speaker 3: managers?

Of course, Steve.

Thank you so much first for
speaking about Alex and Jenny.

They're amazing account managers
and we need to replicate that.

for every client or any customer
that we have working with VRBO.

No, no, no, no.

Steve V2: Just, just for Casago.

Speaker 3: Okay.

Exactly right.

That's true.

The best for the best.

So, yes, that's where
account management comes in.

So, one of the differences between the
hotels and the vacation rentals, there are

lots of differences, but this one's key.

Okay.

The hotel is located in one place and
there will always be a hotel and houses.

They sometimes are part of the, of
a vacation rental property owner.

And then the other day could not be right.

So we need people that could
be alert on that happening.

People that knows what's happening
in the market, people that knows what

is the seasonality of the market.

So we can provide the best data available
to those property managers or, okay.

or whoever works with us to make
the best decision available to make

the best out of their businesses.

Yeah.

Steve V2: Is there some KPIs that
you guys are able to share with us or

measurements of quality or expertise
that we're going to be able to look

at when we're thinking about market
knowledge and trying to figure out

how to best serve our customers?

homeowners and our guests.

What I

Speaker 3: do can share is
we can talk about revenue.

We can talk about calendar and bookings.

And I think if we focus on
that, increasing our bookings,

increasing our revenue, that
will allow us to make decisions.

Okay.

So what is the trade off in the future?

Are my willing to open more
dates to make more business?

Or you know what?

I'm actually saving those
dates because I want to book.

I mean, There's a lot of channels,
there's a lot of ways to make revenue,

and that's on each one of the business
participants to make a call on.

But what we at Spargo can promise is
we will deliver the demand and we'll

help you make the best choices to
optimize your properties to get the more

bookings and the best revenue available.

Steve V2: Yeah, that's great.

We really appreciate that.

So, final questions as
we're starting to wind down.

First of all, appreciate you coming on.

This is your first CosaCon.

Yes.

What's your initial thoughts as you
see this first day sort of transpiring?

Speaker 3: I can say at
least two things, Steve.

One, I've been amazed of the
quality of the people, like you

and your team, how they built the
relationship with everyone here.

So it's, you feel like you're at home.

So that's, that's an amazing feeling.

And the second thing that I
could say is like, it is super

professionalized, organized, You have
the ability to speak with everyone.

You have the ability to provide valuable
information for them to get some trends,

to get what's happening in their world
and actually implement it very fast.

So congratulations on this.

Thank you.

And congratulations on choosing
Mexico city, by the way.

Steve V2: Isn't this great.

It is a great destination.

what's your favorite thing about Casago?

I will definitely say

Speaker 3: the people.

Steve V2: Yeah.

Speaker 3: It makes total difference
when you connect with people.

Businesses are done within people.

So

Steve V2: congratulations

Speaker 3: on that.

Steve V2: Have you ever heard
the words owner centric before?

Yes, sir.

So, you know, that's a big part of what
we talk about every day with Casago.

Now with you coming in from the outside,
your perspective really matters.

What does owner centric mean to you?

Speaker 3: That is a very broad
question that I will, I will try to

narrow it down at least in two things.

So on recentric it's you're not just
any owner, each owner matters and they,

each one of them have different needs
and you're actually have the time to get

to know those needs and tend to them.

Yeah, I love

Steve V2: that.

Thank you very much for coming on.

Thank you for having me, Steve.

And then lastly, You and I
have a date with destiny.

Yes.

With some hot chicken wings coming up.

So that's going to be a lot of fun.

That's going to be

Speaker 3: fun.

I'm Mexican but I'm not
that, I don't eat that much.

I'm new Mexican so I feel like

Steve V2: I've got the advantage on you.

.
Speaker 3: Let's do

Steve V2: it.

Challenge

Speaker 3: accepted.

Steve V2: All right.

See you in Austin for that.

Thanks pal.

Thank you my friend.

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